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I want to start watching the Gundam series, where should i start?
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The very first Mobile Suit Gundam from 1979
It's really nice.
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Anywhere, fucking moron. It's just a cartoon.
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>>22686565
The beginning.
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>>22686565
Mobile Suit Gundam
08th MS team, War In The Pocket (Optional)
Zeta Gundam
Stardust Memory (Optional)
Gundam ZZ
Char’s Counterattack
Gundam: F91
Victory Gundam

Then for the newer shit,
Gundam: The Origin ( Set before the original but you ahould watch it after)
Gundam Unicorn (Set after CCA)
Gundam Narrative (Sequel to Unicorn)
Gundam Hathaway (Set after Narrative but its mainly about storythreads from CCA. its the first in a trilogy of movies the next two are not out yet.)

You could watch the newer stuff in chronological order with the old stuff but I recommend watching all the old stuff first since that is the order it was originally made in.
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>>22686565
Witch From Mercury is nice and is in its own time line so it's easy to get into and doesn't have Janky boomer animation.
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>>22686579
Chronological order is for people who have been watching this shit for 30 years and even then it's the worst choice.
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>>22686579
Don't watch Stardust Memory right after Zeta, that's a fucking awful mistake to make.

Production order only.
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>>22686582
Fuck off
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>>22686565
Original series, Wing, Seed, or 00 for very first entries. Maybe 08th MS Team if you read up on Universal Century lore.
>>22686582
Nah.
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>>22686663
>Maybe 08th MS Team if you read up on Universal Century lore.
He could just watch the shows as they came out and not worry about that.
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>>22686567
I started 0079 recently and I have to wonder, how do people memorize all the mobile suit/kit names? Just a simple name is fine (like Zaku, Gouf, Dopp, etc.) but when I looked up the original Gundam that shit was called RX-78-02 then I find out there's a prototype that wasn't in the anime called RX-78-01. Do you just remember the ones you like?
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>>22686565
I started with Witch from mercury, and that was good enough that it got me to look into the chronological order of the main continuity which I really havent had a problem with until lately (ZZ). You could start with WfM if you'd prefer a more modern introduction or just jump straight into the UC timeline like I did (or SEED, I hear its great too)

1. Gundam The Origin (mostly canon) - modern introduction to the main UC timeline. I'm kind of a lore whore so I liked the background before starting the OG
2. You could watch the entire original gundam from 1979, or if you're cant stand that much crunchiness you could do the three compilation movies like i did
3. 08th MS team and War in the Pocket are both generally considered fantastic standalone entries that take place during the first war explored by the original 79 series

Iron Blooded Orphans and Gundam 00 are also outside the big timelines but you could consider them toonami era series that each have their own charms.
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>>22686582
I think the older animation can generally hold up but agree that WfM is good in it's own right.
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08th MS team it does the realistic robot thing better than any other series, the Gundams are barely better than the grunt suits and the EZ8 vs Gouf Custom is one of the greatest battles in Gundam history
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>>22686696
Autism

>>22686582
Shit take, wfm is a yuri and utena clone which simply rides on the coattails of the gundam name. Just start with the original 79 series, or if you really can't do that then literally any other AU aside from that garbage
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>>22686824
>(or SEED, I hear its great too)
You hear wrongly.
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>>22686826
>WfM is good in it's own right
Said no one ever kek.
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>>22686565
Yamato
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>>22686565
G
Call the rest off
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>>22686826
>I think the older animation can generally hold up
0079's animation is bad even by 70's standards. I really recommend the movie compilations of it.
WfM is overhated but not the greatest representation, but if you still want a newer show try IBO
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>>22686895
Based
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>>22686953
>0079's animation is bad even by 70's standards. I really recommend the movie compilations of it.
Go back to twitter zoomie.
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>>22686582
Bait used to be believable when it was brain dead people saying Wing, WfM is a fucking joke
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>>22686696
That's the good part, you don't, 95% of mobile suits called by color and won't change things
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>>22686582
Zoomers are beyond salvation
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>>22686582
Go back to Twitter
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>>22687133
To be fair - if you watch the stuff that aired around the same time, those shows usually didn't have as much melt as first Gundam did.The layouts and actual key animation sequences are often higher quality, and Yas's corrections look great, especially around the Ramba Ral through Jaburo arcs where it is actually well animated overall, but the animators doing the douga weren't able to keep up a lot of the time.
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>>22687131
>no one likes seed except people who like seed

I guess?
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>>22686909
-Saviour
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>>22686565
literally just pick the one you think looks the coolest, watch order really doesnt matter
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>>22686565
>where should i start?
By going in the opposite direction and getting as far away from gundam slop as possible.
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>>22687247
Dumb tourist can't even greentext properly.
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why do gundam fags want newcomers to suffer so greatly? watching the franchise in chronological order today is basically torture. the old ones haven't aged well at all.

i'd say anything from SEED is still good to watch. love it or hate it, SEED is what revived the whole gundam franchise. once you get through SEED you can choose to watch OO, unicorn, thunderbolt, witch from mercury, and then decide if they want to invest in more time watching the older ones.
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>>22686696
Video games and Gunpla play a large part in it. Also, in general side material will only highlight a couple more obscure designs so they end up sticking with you and over time you end up familiar with 100s of designs.
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>>22686696
My attempt at remembering the Mobile Suits from memory
>Gundam
>Guntank
>Guncannon
>Zaku
>Zaku I
>Gouf
>Dom
>Gogg
>Acguy
>Zgok
>GM
>Rick Dom
>Gyan
>Gelgoog
>Zeong
I feel like I'm missing something
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>>22687290
I don't see the zock on your list.
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>>22687295
Fuck, it was something from the amphibious bunch. I thought I got them all.
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>>22687299
If you want a real challenge, try listing all the suits in Zeta Gundam and A New Translation.
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>>22687255
>>22687257
And now you samefag.
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>>22686565
Wing Gundam is generally agreed to be the best entry point due to its toonami dub.
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>>22686696
>was called RX-78-02
no it wasn't
sod off Yas
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>>22687283
I disagree, as someone who got fairly recently into Gundam (due to WFM no less).
In my opinion - SEED is extremely overblown with episode count where nothing happens for long stretches of time, and you feel like you're wasting time rewatching the same scenes every few minutes. Characters behave like they have maybe half a brain at most - I also feel like show thinks I have half a brain when it overexplains everything several times - and I'm not gonna lie, I really actively dislike SEED's artstyle.

00 is good, IBO is not-terrible to okay, Thunderbolt looked and sounded awesome, G-Reco was very confusing with constant flip flopping between factions and hardly any information for background information(but the drawn lines look very good).

Frankly, if someone is looking for easy start go for AU, but I'd discourage starting with SEED as I think there is so many more Gundam shows that do not need one to sit through 100+ episodes just to finish one serie.
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>>22686579
>No Turn A Gundam
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>>22686579
Watching OVAs in between TV series as a form of progression isn't really the best idea, as they were produced years after to provide fanservice and if anything, build upon the latest product, instead of the earliest one.
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>>22686579
>Gundam: The Origin ( Set before the original but you ahould watch it after)
It's non-canon fanfic
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>>22687595
It may be but it's still fun to watch.
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>>22686565
Why? Once you have that down then you can decide what to watch first and it will probably be obvious with minimal research.
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>>22687247
>No such thing as Gundam Slop
>Most threads on /m/ boil down to most shows being deemed shit for a multitude of reasons

This is your brain on copium.
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>>22687526
nobody's forcing anyone to watch SEED and SEED Destiny in one sitting. in fact, you can just watch SEED and skip Destiny altogether. i think there's a reason why they made a new SEED movie in 20-fucking-24. the series has a huge fanbase and it does some things quite well. the mech designs from that series is top tier. even if you hate the art style, it can't be worse than the 1979 gundam, which SEED is a rough remake of.
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>>22687283
Actually fucking kill yourself illiterate retard. 0079 is far better than literally every show you mentioned, and watching Unicorn without the old UC is the most brain dead move possible
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>>22687710
>Most threads on /m/ boil down to most shows being deemed shit for a multitude of reasons
Wrong. Lurk mour. You really are retarded.
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>>22687526
>SEED is extremely overblown with episode count where nothing happens for long stretches of time, and you feel like you're wasting time rewatching the same scenes every few minutes. Characters behave like they have maybe half a brain at most
This. So much this. I watched after I finished the older UC's and seed felt like the plot was NEVER moving forward or nothing was actually happening for long periods of time. Lots of moments and scenes of characters just standing around talking with very little actual plot progression, story, action or drama. The older ones like 0079 and zeta had a far better balance of the elements throughout each given episode that you didn't feel bored. Again, this is coming from someone who saw seed and the older UC's just a couple years ago.
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>>22687710
>Slop
Maybe stop misusing terrible buzzwords populated by zoomers and we wouldn't have any problems
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>>22688198
0079 is also faster paced and more exciting to watch than everything he mentioned too. He's literally double thinking. He's advocating that dirt taste terrible so he recommends everyone to eat literal shit instead as a superior alternative.
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>>22686565
i'd say either gwitch or first gundam, i'm a newcomer to the franchise myself and i hopped on with the movies, but if you have any tolerance for older shows 0079 itself is literally the baseline for the whole franchise and after that you have what amounts to a straight line of shows to watch from there going to Zeta>ZZ>CCA>F91>Victory which is enough Gundam to fill up more than a year. Mercury is better for if you don't have a tolerance for that old anime shit though, it's not quite as dark as a lot of its siblings in the franchise, but it's still got the dna. definetly needed a third season at the very least tho
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>>22686565
Production order. Go to the page for Gundam on Wikipedia or some other source and check the release dates of the series and or movies. Pick the ones you find interesting, you can prioritize the ones directed by series creator Tomino if you please. Watch in the order in which they were released. Check if any of them are sequels to one another and watch the previous series beforehand.

This process works for any franchise. You dont really need some other faggot to tell you.
If you dont like old animation eat shit.
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It's out of date, but still the best chart this board has made.
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>>22688786
Nah fuck off duel.
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>>22688786
This is an unbelievably shitty chart.
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>>22686565
Almost all of us outside Japan started with Wing.
You can start with any AU.
starting with 0079 is also fine.
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/a/ told me you can watch CCA without seeing ZZ, is this true? Will I still understand everything?
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>>22688918
You can watch CCA as a newborn, who's gonna stop you? The gundam police? Their jurisdiction only applies in space.
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>>22688918
ZZ sets you up for a few things in terms of technology and style, but the best thing you can watch before CCA is another Tomino show. Realistically, after 0079 you should watch Ideon.
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>>22687251
I do not get that image.
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>>22688942
Yeah it needs more labels.
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>>22688786
>pros and cons
shit chart
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>>22688198
>>22688228
>0079 is better in every way!
>old good new bad!!!!!
gundam fags are so insufferably in denial. old gundam series are pretty boring to watch today unless you're a boomer.
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>>22689034
>I just LOVE eating shit mhm!
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>>22689099
Hey, it's NEW shit.
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>>22688221
>Maybe stop misusing terrible buzzwords populated by zoomers
The fucking irony.
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>>22689123
There's no irony there.
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>>22689129
There is, zoomer is a retarded buzzword usted mostly by young people.
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>>22689131
Wrong.
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>>22689141
Yeah, I was wrong, it's mostly used by immature retards.
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>>22689034
>NOOOOOOO I WANT MY TOY COMMERCIAL CARTOONS WITH SHINY NEW ANIMATION AND CGI AND YURI CELS BAD CELS BAD
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>>22689294
>NOOOOOOO I WANT MY OLD TOY COMMERCIAL CARTOONS WITH UGLY ANIMATION
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>>22689304
Yes.
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>>22689304
It's time to stop pretending about being into something if you're going to be this uppity all the time.
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What the FUCK is going on?
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>>22686565
>not a single reply mentioning picrel
Ignore all the faggotry, seething and bitching above, just watch G Gundam
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>>22689764
AUs are ostensibly other shows entirely just with a name included.
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>>22688918
CCA yes, Unicorn no
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>>22689965
Retard.
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>>22688909
you mean outside Asia.
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>>22689981
>illiterate
You don't even know what to say at this point, retard.
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>>22687283
I watched 0079 blind for the first time a couple of years ago expecting it to be a very dated show and also expecting to have to power through it to get to Zeta and CCA, and it turned out to be a really solid war drama that still holds up to this day. The animation REALLY didn't age well, I'll give you that, but even then it had a few really cool fights, especially near the end. It's still my favorite Gundam entry.
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>>22690582
>The animation REALLY didn't age well
Watch more anime.
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>>22689304
If you think cel animation is bad, leave this hobby
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>>22690128
>And yet, "retard' or "irony" are the only two "gotcha's" your brain dead illiterate mind can manage to conjure up
I've made my case already, there's not much else you can say to drooling retards such as you who throw words around and resort to "no u"ing instead of coming up with any sort of actual argument.

>I'm not him
That just makes you a retarded faggot defending his retarded hypocritical boyfriend.
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I’ve been rewatching 0079. Sure there are rushed or poorly animated scenes but there’s also some bretty gud animation more often than bad. I think the episode where they try to launch Amuro in the core fighter into sneak into Feddie airspace for reinforcements is one example.
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>>22690691
Bad 80s animation looks worse than bad 70s animation.
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>>22688786
It's out of date for a reason. It's garbage and does nothing to actually help anybody decide what to watch, and is bloated with shitty opinions. I won't take any chart that says Turn A is the best seriously, nor that says Destiny is one of the weakest entries when AGE and G-Reco are right there too.
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>>22687283
Imagine, ignoring the obvious nature of this shitpost, being a retard who only watches shows for because
>lol dude action and flash
Gundam has never been about that. Having them pilot sci fi tank/fighter jet hybrids are just the vehicle to deliver the story. In the same way that the crux of a amazing series like Working! isn't actually dependent on them working at the cafe.
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>>22689034
The only bad part about 0079 is the second third where it devolves into monster of the week. The first third is pretty intense as they're being doggedly hounded by Zeon. The last third is a build up to a satisfying conclusion of the war.
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>>22690748
>monster of the week
Retard.
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>>22690753
That's exactly what all the variations of Zeon suits Amuro fights are. You don't have to like it, you do have to get on board and accept it for what it is.
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imagine thinking the 1979 gundam animation aged well
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>this is better drawn than modern gundam!!!!
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AU sisters...
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>>22690772
>that pure sense of scale
Modern shows could NEVER.
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>>22690770
>>22690772
>>22690774
>three select shots
Oh how can we ever recover...
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>>22690785
>0079 JUST LOOKS BETTER OKAY!!!
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how come modern gundam animation is worse than 0079 guys?
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exia sure looks worse than the original 1979 gundam
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>>22690789
Refer to >>22689358
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>>22690796
>blindly saying old good new bad is being into something
that's also called being a delusional boomer
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>gundam 00
>final villain is literally the original gundam
>final villain is literally voiced by the original amuro voice actor
>exia pierces the original gundam while yelling "piercing to the future"
kek, gundam fans are so insufferable that even the franchise is telling them to wake the fuck up. imagine still believing the old 1979 animation looks better than the newer ones.
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Do you actually think anyone's going to buy this disingenuous cherry picking?
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>>22690823
see >>22690819
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>>22690819
You could just solve the problem for yourself by having discerned cut off points and not concerning yourself with anything beyond 2001. :^)
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>>22690806
That's not what is being said though, but it's foolish to convince some of you otherwise when you only think in terms of what meme you can reply with.
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>>22690841
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>>22690842
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>>22690902
It really shows that a lot of people coming to this board now aren't actually watching what they're posting about, when the most immediately visual thing is all they can deduce (and not extensively or elaborately) and are going off memes and images that have been circulated ad infinitum.
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>>22690900
>>22690902
>>22690908
>>22690914
you're the reason the original gundam got destroyed in 00. keep saying >old good new bad and keep gatekeeping the franchise from newer audiences. you'd have to be deluded to think most people who would watch anime would want to start the franchise with 0079 in 20 fucking 24.
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>>22690891
Learn to follow conversations, retard.
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>>22690900
>You keep using that word when most of us don't apply to it
Ftfy.
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>>22690932
>keep gatekeeping the franchise from newer audiences
No need to tell me twice.
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I went with 0079 because the story and writing is actually good. AU gundams are typically dogshit retarded.
>inb4 it looks better
Means nothing. Take something like James Bond. A long running franchise where the modern flicks can put out stunning vistas and flashy explosions. And yet they're still worse movies than the Connery ones.
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>>22690947
see >>22690956
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>>22690976
The only thing more retarded than saying old good, new bad. Is the delusion and bass ackwards mentality that new good, old bad. Also I can't fault anon for gatekeeping. There are not enough anons who have high enough standards to make retards fuck off with confronted with them.
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>>22690691
>the episode where they try to launch Amuro in the core fighter into sneak into Feddie airspace for reinforcements
Which episode?
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>>22690748
>monster of the week
Starting from ramba ral yes
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>>22690979
>WE NEVER SAID OLD GOOD NEW BAD!!
>but actually, old good new bad
ah there we go. even the franchise makers hate you.
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>>22686565
amusingly you came to the wrong place to ask that. Everyone here has such mega autism on this topic that we all basically have the wrong answer. Id say start with an AU series though, like IBO, Wing, 00(even if I think it's cringe), or something like that. Avoid WfM it's just modernist trash. Before you hop into UC though consider watching Build Fighters since it covers a lot of random Gundam lore stuff in a fun way and gets you really excited about the franchise as a whole.

when I got into Gundam I watched the first season of IBO(that's all that was out at that point) then I watched Build Fighters after and it warmed me up to really spending time with the franchise afterwards, I seriously can't recommend it enough
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>>22691007
>watch build fighters before UC
No offence but this is really fucking dumb. BF is for people who will actually get the references.
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>>22691010
you gotta be kidding. build fighters is for literal children.
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>>22691007
Do you build gunpla
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>>22691030
yes my room looks like a gunpla store with all the boxes stacked up, although I guess in a sense you could say I don't build gunpla because I have so many to finish
>>22691010
some references I got from my tertiary understanding of Gundam at the time, but most of it is explained in a salient way, at least enough to make for a fun series. It made me appreciate the SOVL in the series and later when I watched UC I enjoyed everything referenced alot more when I came up on the source material. Also Build Fighters introduced me to a ton of the Gundam MS designs beforehand which made seeing their origins cooler. You are honestly dumb if you think you can't enjoy Build Fighters without seeing UC first
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Anons, I'm starting to think this thing might actually be retarded.
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>>22691039
why
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You should watch until at least episode 5-6 or whenever the civilian mutiny happens. That way you’ll know if you stomach how shitty the average person is in the UC timeline
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>>22690758
Very few of them only appear in one episode and have the plot based around fighting specifically them. You could point to the Zakrello episode as a MOTW scenario, but nothing that takes place before they go back to space save the Adzam fits.
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>>22691572
I'll kill you.
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>>22691007
>watch the series where you should be actively routing for the main cast to be killed off as soon as possible
I guess it warms you up for the important main Gundam series if anything. Bold strategy.
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>>22689764
I did though. >>22686909
Although next time someone asks (you know someone will) I will attach an actual pic
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>>22692027
>needing a warm up to watch cartoons
This board is so over.
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>>22686565
G-Witch
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Is the 079 manga any good?
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>>22694676
Depends on which one you are talking about. I've only read a bit of Kondo's and it's good but has some weird clashing between the original designs and stuff that is more kondo's style. Origin is also generally good, but it makes controversial changes and overhypes char a bit too much. On the other hand, is cleans up some of the oddities from the original. I'm also vaguely aware of a 1979 manga, but I've never read it and it doesn't seem particularly accessible.
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>>22686582
End your life, mountain troll. I know you typed this, so I could get the urge to wring your cunt's neck.
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>>22687294
No, they aged horribly... Watching over 30 years of timeline with super aged and filler filled eps with terrible sound is something you should do if you are hardcore fan after watching something else.
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>>22695517
There are easier ways of coming out as a pleb, anon.
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>>22690770
>>22690772
>>22690774
I had the pleasure of watching 0079 recently with a friend who had never seen it before and he actually really enjoyed it. Back when I watched it for the first time I hardly ever noticed the QUALITY, since many of those moments are so brief. While I know you're not really being sincere, anon, I'd still encourage you to actually watch 0079 sometime if you haven't already. There's a reason people still think about it to this day as well as why Gundam as a franchise revisits it so. I really do wish Banrise would move the setting forward meaningfully, but when Tomino did that they didn't like it.
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>>22695517
>Watched on a phone
Disregarded.
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>>22695540
>but when Tomino did that they didn't like it.
With what?
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>>22695540
Most of the leherpdederp QUALITY images people meme on MSG for are from a single episode (Doan's Island). They're always fun to joke about but the people watching the series for the first time back when it was first broadcast probably didn't actually see any of said screens because they specifically removed that episode from broadcast.

Honestly the most offputting thing about watching MSG is how off the RX-78 is from his more modernized look. It's like watching old episodes of Pokemon and seeing chonky Pikachu. There's a charm to it.
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>>22687290
>no zakrello
ngmi
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>>22695962
Zakrello is a mobile armor.
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>>22695885
>offputting
>there's a charm to it
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>>22695580
F91, look how Bandai gutted his Next Gen show into a barely coherent movie
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>>22695871
oh please, you keep saying the other anon is disingenuous and talking in bad faith, but you're the one wanting to gatekeep the franchise and bash the newer gundams.
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>>22697255
>but you're the one
You must got me confused with someone else, because I don't know what the fuck you're going on about? Don't reply to me, again.
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>>22697290
you sound like you have a lot of friends, jfc
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>>22697326
>samefag going to get another thread deleted or gutted.
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>>22697331
You must got me confused with someone else, because I don't know what the fuck you're going on about? Don't reply to me, again.
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>>22695885
>are from a single episode
Eh there's a good bit of fuckups throughout (like the fuckhuge out of proportion Gundam in the episode where Zeon is trying to bomb it) but many shows back then were messier. Not really a big deal.
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>>22690770
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>>22690774
How could you hate this tho? This is part of the appeal of watching old, janky shows, which if you had actually seen 0079 (something I doubt your brainrotted zoomer attention span could even finish), you would know the show isn't even that bad compared to actual 70s schlock.
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>>22695540
>>22695517
I've recently gotten myself to finally watch the original series. I was expecting to have to power through the old animation, but surprisingly it was never a problem for me. They do a good job of keeping the reused footage brief and not lingering on things, and the series itself is really interesting. I ended up binging it and I'm already just over a quarter of it, and I really enjoy the feel of the show.
If I had to describe it, it feels very military but in a way easy to follow along. With how military hardware like the zakus aren't just thrown out in mobs, but are procured in twos and threes, how both the feds and Zeon are both humanized(shout out to Big John) and demonized, and how both sides strategize to catch out the other.
A lot of those old mech tropes in later Gundam aren't really present, and it feels very refreshing. I like how Amuro is a quick study of piloting the Gundam, but isn't actually good with it, he's an obvious amateur pilot and all the enemy soldiers pick up on it, even Amuro himself knows he's only alive because the Gundam is so stupidly durable.
I also like how Kai, Ryu, and Hayato are also learning to use the other mobile suits over the episodes and the play a bigger role in fights, even trading around the suits instead of sticking to one religiously. You can really see how these civilians are slowly adapting to being military even as they're hounded by the enemy.
What I especially love is the fog of war, how while we as the audience are getting the full picture the two sides aren't. You see as Zeon are slowly piecing together just what is up with the "Trojan Horse" and the crazy federation mobile suits that are just no selling their Zaku machine gun fire, and how the White Base is evading Zeon and how in their PoV Char is just randomly popping up to give them a hard time.
Also I felt bad for Garma, Char is a bastard.
I could keep gushing, but suffice to say, I love the show so far, it's really good.
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>>22699781
Bad 80s and 90s show look worse than bad 70s shows.
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As a 21 year old zoomer that never knew anything about gundam i randomly decided to get into it early this june and watched the first thing that came out, which i now know as 0079.

I never was into mecha in the first place so i wasn't expecting much, especially since i hate 70's animation (especially western).

I ended up watching all 43 episodes in 2 weeks and absolutely loved it. Everything from the writing to the music to even the animation surprisingly enough that looked good despite being 70's style. Didn't even notice the mistakes besides some reused shots around the back to space arc. Of course it wasn't perfect (episode 30 as a example) but it was really close to it ngl, characters like Bright and Ramba Ral carried it hard, also the death of Ryu and others. I really wasn't expecting such a serious war story, but i'm glad it is.

So if a zoomer like me can get into 0079 blind despite never liking mecha stuff, i believe others can also get into it, it has aged far better than i thought.

Picrel is the guncannon gunpla i recently got, Kai sweep.

Currently in the middle of Zeta, started off like shit but picked up around episode 10, still enjoyable but not as good as 0079 so far. Kamille is also a fucking insufferable sperg.
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>>22702944
I could have written this word for word, but I'm a little older than you and I like Kamille so far. It was a bit hard to adjust to Zeta since they sort of throw you into deep-end immediately but I'm warming up to it. At least the suits look nicer.
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>>22702924
Glad you're enjoying it anon. You're in for a treat.

>>22702944
I'm rewatching Zeta myself alongside said friend I mentioned earlier. Indeed it's not quite as fun as 0079, it's more grim but it also doesn't quite have as strong of a cast. It has some good drama and really interesting concepts in it but it's never quite on 0079's level. Glad you could enjoy 0079 at least. Zeta's endgame is interesting. I am oddly looking forward to ZZ
I'm 27, myself.
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>>22702957
You are 100% right about the suits, i absolutely love the Rick Dias, the Kakyu Shiki (or however you spell it, the golden one) and especially the Gundam MK2 Titans color (ngl might be my 2nd gunpla if i find it near me).

Hizaku's also look cool but i dislike that the titans use them, should have been on the AEUG's side instead of the literal federation offspring group.

Picrel: La creatura
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>>22702957
>Kamille is also a fucking insufferable sperg.
Yes, he's literally autism condensed into the form of a person, love the manic depresisve psycho he is
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>>22703323
>he's literally autism condensed
You have never met an autistic person.
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>>22702957
I think appreciating Kamille is easier when you're older. He's a fairly authentic little shit and it can feel a bit too real if that's a phase you're not very far from, even if you weren't overly shitty yourself.
>>22702967
Hyaku Shiki, and yeah, the Titans colours look great on a lot of designs.
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>>22703327
Not him. I have. Kamille is consistent with some form of autism. I went to school in special eds. My classmate named Leo would regularly sperg out hitting his head against his locker doors several times. One time over some stupid harmless shit other kids said about him. Granted, I was in special ed too and had my fair share of attitude but nowhere near his heights. Kamille definitely has mental health issues.
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>>22702967
>pic
canon kai
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>>22686696
If you end up really liking Gundam a lot of people spend time reading things like MAHQ.net back in the day, I guess Gundam Wiki now. The model number is always listed so its an easy way for people to discuss variants.

MS-06 is a Zaku II
There's the standard F type, the ground J type, the commander S type, the desert D type, etc. etc.
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>>22703378
Autism isn't a "mental health issue" lmao.
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>>22703421
It's not!?I'm confused.
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>>22703427
It is, he's just a coping autist
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>>22703427
How is it a mental health issue?
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>>22703449
Idk. I'm just going by what everybody else says.
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>>22703442
Kek. Maybe kamille antics hits too close to home and he's not ready to accept it. I for one can relate to kamille. I was "there" in my younger years. Literally told my parents I was gonna commit suicide for attention and a temper tantrum despite being a spoiled brat. I had to work very hard to change over many years later.
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>>22703457
that's not autism, sounds like you just had shitty parents
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>>22703471
I have ADHD and OCD. And a couple potential undiagnosed problems. But yeah, my parents did spoil me a little too much. But they were good parents and I learned to appreciate them more now.
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Why won't he elaborate what makes "autism" autism? If kamille doesn't have autism than what is his fucking problem?
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>>22702960
I feel like Zeta is worse on the surface but has so much more depth if you take the time to try to analyze the characters and pick apart the dialogue. Like how there's a blink and you'll miss it foreshadowing of Char's mentality in CCA.
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>>22703454
There is a bit of room for debate over whether autism is itself an issue or if it just different and it's only the world's attitude towards it that is the issue, although this mainly applies to people high functioning autism where they have problems with social interaction, but accel in fields like technology and math.
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>>22703662
This. So much this.
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>>22703662
Yeah, that's why I'm still having fun with it personally. I still think Zeta lacks a certain spark 0079 does but it's still excellent and a much more 'political' and sophisticated story.
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>>22703679
Yea, that sounds about right in my opinion too. I will say, take your time with zeta as it's not much of a roller coaster ride as 0079. But it is easily a far more chaotic on the surface but experimental in retrospect. Also the pacing can have a few oddities in places.
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>>22703662
>there's a blink and you'll miss it foreshadowing of Char's mentality in CCA.
I'm tempted to ask where so I can catch it while watching, but do you think it'd spoil CCA for me?
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>>22704341
No. Don't worry about spoilers either, you're on /m/ after all.
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>>22686565
If you want to get into UC, start with the original 79 show. If you want to get into Gundam in general, you can pick one of the AU series for a self-contained show.

I got into Gundam by watching 00 as it aired, it's not a bad choice. IBO is fine if you can stand Mari Okada's writing full of LN cliches such as forced melodrama and awkward exposition. G is amazing, but it's quite far from the franchise standard, being a martial arts drama. WFM is the newest one and starts off great, but shits the bed in the second half once they realized they don't have enough episodes left to resolve all the plot points.
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>>22704341
It's during the conversation with the ship's doctor about Rosammy and cyber newtypes towards the beginning of episode 42.
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>>22704341
whiskey
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>>22687597
It's really not, a lot of modern Charfags completely shit up the character because they watched the Origin and got a wrong idea who he is, thinking he's actually a cool 4d chess ace pilot a la Lelouch instead what Tomino wanted to portray him as, that being, an autistic manchild
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>>22704935
>what Tomino wanted to portray him as, that being, an autistic manchild
You are going from one extreme to the other.
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>>22704935
Seems like you barely know him yourself as well
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>>22704940
Do you need any more proof?
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>>22693108
So the Blue pilot suit has never been addressed? Amuro never actually wears that.
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>>22704935
The only thing I got from The Origin is that Char was a hateful piece of shit who was just using the excuse of killing the Zabis to lash out at everybody around him.

The funny part being The Origin portrays Zeon Zum Deikun as a raving lunatic who was honestly not all that much better than the Zabis to begin with.
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>>22704998
Probably just some early production shenanigans from before Amuro's pilot suit was concrete, Sleggar wears a blue pilot suit for example. Similarly, there was a children's picture book published before Gundam aired where Char was the henchman of the evil Dr. (Degwin) Zabi and a Zaku attacked a children's theme park totally unarmed and whatnot while the Gundam manhandled it.
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>>22704935
Oh yeah well if he's an autistic man-child how come I don't want to self insert as him?
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>>22705001
And that's the correct way to read Deikun considering what we get to learn about him from Char later
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>>22705370
Why exactly is The Origin Char terrible, because he's blatantly evil?
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>>22705620
>tranny shit
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>>22704737
The one where he thinks Cyber-Newtypes are a good idea? AKA the moment where he completely fails to understand what he's talking about?
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>>22705470
People don't like the contrivance of there being a guy named "Char Aznable" completely identical to Casval and who he knew while living in hiding. Also all the Char wank that comes at the expense of Garma.
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>>22707440
Yes, but more broadly he's talking about taking desperate measures to force human advancement rather than waiting for humanity to advance on its own, something that he at least argues is the reason for his actions in CCA.
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>>22707721
Doesn't he say he thinks that'll inevitably happen on its own and his job is to avoid disrupting it or the younger generation during the finale to Zeta?



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