Is there zero interest in making a decent boomer mecha show?
Kill yourself.
>>22864958You didn't even have the interest in making a decent sentence.
Arc had soul compared to U.
@22864962ironic
>>22864964Everything good about the story or the art was made before the anime though.When the anime had its own input, they pulled shit like the weird Go subplot or the changed Gettersaurus pilots' designs.
>>22864965>>22864978You know just because you don't direct link to the post in question doesn't mean you didn't reply. I really don't know why you think you're being clever. Especially when it's early in the thread and everything is traceable at an eyeball.
Arc was respectful of the mediocre material, U was Okouchi's turd.
>>22864958Hi.I'm hope the Japanese cut will fix a lot of things.
>>22865133I mean from I hear it's already cutting out like 70 percent of the episodes. What even happened with this shit anyways.
I'm honestly a little surprised they haven't tried to do more with the Nagahama series in all this time. Is it a rights thing or something? Because it's been sitting right there and between it's own qualities and SRW it's managed to stay pretty relevant compared to a lot of its contemporaries so someone has to have been pushing for it at some point. And pachinko shit doesn't count.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY2V7hX-WJw
>>22865004Yeah honestly the way Arc turned out the way it was because the manga fucking sucked to begin with.
>>22864958Because modern mecha has a weird autism of injecting weird melodrama into the story then drag this melodrama out much longer than it should have been, giving a tiresome and uninteresting storytelling. You can see this in Arc, which rooted from the manga storyline where Kamui decided to betray his teammates. I mean, what the fuck, this shit is so unproductive and strays too far from the main storyline.
>>22865167>Because modern mecha has a weird autism of injecting weird melodrama into the storyYer razzing me right?
>>22865004>>22865159Still a 50/50 on how Arc ended. On one hand, it was a cliffhanger. But it felt more like a conclusive cliffhanger.
>>22865173Stop coping anon, 70s melodrama has nothing in common to late 2000s melodrama. Rahxephon doesn't has the same vibe as Votoms, despite how both of these shows were very drama heavy.
>>22865174I find the whole eternal battle ending is already a fairly normal precedent in Getter anime so it was probably the best option without actually reinventing things.
>>22865180>find*mean. I'm going to bed.
>>22865180Except the finale of Shin Getter Robo 2005 had all Heavenly Kings defeated. The story was conclusive on itself. What Arc so bad about is that you don't see Arc vs Bug. You don't know what the fuck is the point of Shin Dragon at the ending. It was all cliffhanger shit with no conclusion.
>>22864964That's just inherently from adapting something with more soul. The actual new shit was pretty soulless.
>>22865188I'm pretending like it was super good or anything. Just that there was some thematic closure that wasn't dissimilar to what other series did. I feel just as gypped about the bug thing. As for Shin Dragon? Well, again, I'd like more of an explanation on that too but I think given what we saw with the Emperor and Ten at the end I think it's pretty easy to surmise what was going with Shin Dragon. It wasn't too different than this fella in that sense. It ultimately just boils down to the team standing up to try and prevent Getter Bad Future.
>>22865220*NOT pretending. Insomnia sucks. Please help me.
>>22865220New Getter made it more clear with the Shin Dragon's narrative as the bad omen. Arc's problem is that you couldn't tell if it is supposed to be an ally or the ultimate villain due to Bug's presence at the finale. "Bad Getter future" section of Arc already had Getter Emperor.
>>22865239Bug or no bug it's pretty clear that it wasn't an alley. And bad future having the emperor is actually what I'm referring to. It's the same cycle. Humans find the getter rays. Aliens/Future men fear the getter so they try to kill the humans. Humans fight back using the getter creating the very future they wanted to prevent. Arc fighting Bug is exactly the bullshit that started the dragon's evolution to emperor.
>>22865243>Arc fighting Bug is exactly the bullshit that started the dragon's evolution to emperor.Nah, Benkei and Hayato went insane, decided to pump Getter G up with Getter Rays to see what can Getter lead to. Then at the end of Arc, after being fatally injured, Hayato decided to fuck all and unleashed Shin Dragon. This is my main complain about Arc, Shin Dragon should have been the main focus from beginning to the end, not dinosaur drama.
I was sort of hoping Shou would have gotten to do more. I know she wasn't really there in the manga but why go to the trouble of bringing in an extra Getter 2 pilot especially after Kamui bounced they could have used one. Also how did Baku get back from the getter dimension? What was that all about?
Arc was very average stuff but it has true /m/ soul in it.Grendizer U is fujogay melodrama shit all along, giving all the screentime to new and useless characters. It lacks everything the original was.
>>22865262Double posting, frenchfag here, Goldorak was the real deal, my frog heart so angry against Fuck Uda and Okoucheap.
>>22865262>Grendizer U is fujogay melodramaNo gay shit on the sight bro.There are a lot of japanese being quite vocal about the issues in the writing and production. "Whatever thing they wanted to do with the plot and drama they didn't make the show interesting">https://x.com/arisamag2/status/1839822537490084252
>>22865278I think by gay he meant or emphased the melodramatic, soapish love triangle that ruined the show. Even Grendizer didnt matter at all in this neverending whimping story.
>>22864958Dynamic knows they have been outdone by other series since these were originally created so they aren't bothering.
>>22864958>>22865262>>22865278>>22865388I didn't bother watching Grendizer, what exactly is wrong with it? Did it do the typical bullshit modern adaptations do where they don't respect the source material at all?
>>22865434Nah, a couple of episodes were even direct adaptations and even the big original plot was just there to end up making things ending like in the original series anyway.It's really more about how few big battles there were in the show and how it wasted time with some plots that went nowhere (everything related to Cassado especially).
>>22865434Anon here said it here, with the link of Nips talking about it >>22865278
>>22865489>a couple of episodes were even direct adaptationsThe major one was doing what is practically a 1:1 remake of episode 25 of the original, the Naida episode. It's already kind of odd to copy over an episode for a 75 episode anime and inserting it into a single cour anime, but the fact that U's new character Tirona is practically a retread of Naida's character makes it feel even more obsolete. What's the point in having two characters who were close to Rubina with unrequited love for Duke who believed he killed someone they cared about? In the span of 13 episodes?
>>22864958Low budget adaptation of a mangaVsLow budget attempt to give negative reputation for Grendizer to avenge the seething Koji fanboys from the OG Grendizer days
>>22865766>Low budgetYou have absolutely no idea.
>>22865766Having both Fukuda and Sadamoto on board is already expensive. Not to mention alot of 2D mecha animation sequences were directed by Hirotoshi Sano. Grendizer U is expensive, as it was funded by the oil princes themselves.
>>22865434I don't think I would go so far as to say it disrespected the source material. This is certainly not some Netflix Voltron situation where they pretty clearly actively disliked it. But it was very clear they just didn't have any idea what they were doing with, well anything. The plot was basically way to rushed to a point where nothing felt like it was happening. The characters just kind of floated around without purpose. Hikaru was set up as some big mystery with strange powers and connections to grendizer that isn't adequately explored. We spend like NINE episodes on some rival who just gets VOIPED with no pay out or satisfaction and what we did learn of him was frankly lame but OH NO DUKE CRIED FOR HIM. Then it's basically a speed rush to a climax where all they had to do was have Mazinger and Grendizer fight together and we didn't even get that.I know you can't really fully condense 70 episodes from the 70s into 13 episodes but with better planning you might have at least told a decent story of your own.
>>22865792The animations looked like dogshit for a 13 eps show in 2024
>>22866036If you think bad = cheap then majority of Hollywood slops are cheap.
>>22864958For every Bravern, we get a Grendizer U to balance things out. Not only is mecha scarce, it's a coin-flip as to whether or not the show will actually be good.
We sure U wasn't an elaborate middle finger to the Arabs?
>>22866386I'm not sure it wasn't an elaborate middle finger to the world.
>>22866386why would it be? schizo ramblings aside
>>22866411Because i don't know if the japanese like durks.
It hurt my childhood. I feel betrayed.
>>22866777Force Five?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3x5W3-Tj8
Grendizer U is so boring it basically made me stop keeping up with my weeklies. This happened with Metallic Rouge too, and I'm not even a huge Grendizer fan, only ever read the manga.I plan on never watching Arc in my life since I actually like Getter.
>>22867054>my weekliesGet a job.
Nips are comparing Grendizer U to Voltes V Legacy. Kek, Philippinos > Saudi Blood Money.
>>22867239More budget, more passion, and doesn't look like Flash anime from the early 2000s.
>>22867239more nips comments about Grendizer Urinal?
>>22867239Yeah, what happened to Oil Barons funding a Gainax-style revival of Super Robots in Grendizer form what people promised me?This is almost as disappointing as the Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer anime adaptation. Almost.
>>22867471I wouldn't be surprised if Gaina/x stole money, again
>>22867523That's not how it works.
>>22864976>Everything good about the storySo there was nothing good from the start
>>22867523Gainax is dead, anon. Years ago. You're talking about a ghost.
>>22867461Just search Twitter with "グレンダイザーU".
>>22867239>Grendizer was an anime that didn't need to be madeOr would've been better aired in Saudi Arabia without exporting it to Japan.
>>22867546Has any other studio died as slow and painfully as Gainax?
>>22867562Gonzo?
>>22867705What happened with them?
>>22867778They died.
>>22867780When and why? I remember them doing that Tiramisu show a few years ago.
>>22867546Isn't Gaina what's left from Gainax? Yamaga and Sadamoto are still there
>>22867788I don't really know. They did the PSO2 anime (the second that was actually based ON the game not people PLAYING the game) which I thought was nice but then they just sort of... died.
>>22867239Why can't Grendizer U have the same quality as the Combattler V Pachinko?
>>22867778>What happened with them?Severe nepotism problem, incompetent, wasting more money than they could make and probably finnancial fraud. One of the exec loaned Anno 1 million yen and then refused to pay him. Anno slowly got fed up with Gainax then left, after that several other talents left and became Trigger. It was a shitshow honestly, a combination of bad leadership and marysue syndrome, thinking they could do no wrong.
>>22867923I know all that, what happened with Gonzo?
>>22867239Grendizer U sucks, but claiming that Voltes V Legacy is better means they haven't watched it.
>>22867923>Severe nepotismIt was a friend's club, not nepotism.
>>22867208I have one. I also keep up with SHT every week on top of my weeklies.
>>22867798It's one of the companies born out of Ganiax as it fell apart, like Trigger.
>>22868033But it has two founding members, Yamaga and Sadamoto.
>>22867239If they actually watched Voltes V Legacy they'd realize it's just as melodramatic and lacking in robot fights as Grendizer U, if not more so.
>>22868000Early Anno days, yes. But after alot of years, it became a corpo with alot of new blood. Anno described as heavily plagued with favouritism amongs the staff, and this is not about how competent people occasionally getting new contracts, but scummy people who got into their place without actual merits. The way Gainax couldn't survive on its own once the founding members left said it all.
>>22868357>The way Gainax couldn't survive on its own once the founding members left said it all.That's the case for any auteur studio.
I went in expecting the show to shit the bed. But, even then, what a thoroughly unsatisfying finale it was.>forgot about the Vega Emperor until one frame of animation during a post credit sequence>Never elaborated in what Hikaru's deal was>Cassado was one entire waste of time>Never revealed Grendizer's origins>Dr. Hell still around and even offering to team up with the Vegans amounted to nothingIt needed more episodes like 11. Now *that* was the sort of retarded, but hilarious and insane melodrama.Also: The score is pretty underwhelming, in spite of being Kohei Tanaka. There's a couple gems, like that funky one that plays when Vegan intrigue is afoot. But, overall, easily the biggest letdown.Grendizer U was, I dunno. 6/10? I've seen worse. At least Maria, Rubina and Terona got some new smut thanks to the show.>>22867799>He didn't stick around with PSO2 The Animation long enough to get to the twist
>>22867239Even r/phlippines hated Voltes V Legacy.>inb4 Reddit
>>22868154The "high-budget' CGI makes up for the melodrama, which they're cutting out anyway since Tokyo MX is only showing 20 episodes instead of 90.
>>22868656>Never elaborated in what Hikaru's deal wasShe's a Fleedian who was left on Earth when Grendizer visited it long ago, and her job was to wait for Grendizer to return. She has the same blue aura Duke and Tirona have, as does the launch base that rose out from the cave she hung around in.
>>22869036I'm going to assume that just means she has the same genetic factor as Starker Knights, which doesn't necessarily mean she's Fleedian given Tirona and Kasado aren't from Fleed either
>>22869036They never state that at all in the show. Also she can do Grendizer's attacks by herself. Duke can't do that.
>>2286495870s garbage isn't good to begin with
>>22869226Anime peaked in the 70s and has been all down hill since
>>22867925Eh nothing really happened with Gonzo to be honest. This studio mostly does hipster shows that very little anime watcher cares. They had some sleeper hits like Gravion and Vandread, but that was really long time ago. They are still around as a small company, living off passive income.
