When is the next Tomino Gundam coming out?
my uncle works at tomino's, he told me that bald man has planned a new byston well story, a zambot movie, a brain powerd sequel and a pet project named himiko yamato.sunrise is willing to throw money at him if agrees to let them call one (or more) of his project as a part of gundam franchise (obviously uc).
I hope the old man's last project is not a Gundam, let him die out of the sunrise jail
i dont wanna see him try to make an anime in 12 episodes. that sounds like it would end badly considering how King Gainer and G-Reco were already running at a breakneck pace at 26 eps.
>>23620614I suspect within 5 years
>>23620614Hopefully never if it's going to be low quality garbage like G-Reco
>>23621944It wasn't made for you.
>>23621944G-Reco is one of the best Gundam series
Klim was such a weird character. Was he just botched, I know we were supposed to find him somewhat cool, but he felt more like a gag character and was close to the anime loser archetype even if he avoided it
>>23623288He's just a wacky guy that serves as a counterpoint to the running theme. Bellri encounters and murders a number of boys and men with a lot of skill and potential to lead their factions (like Dellensen or Rockpie) before finally managing to find a different path with Luin.Meanwhile Klimton Nicchini is just doing his own thing.
>>23620614handsome motherfucker
>>23623293that doesn't sound right. he seemed like tomino frying to show us an opposite of the 'masked' archetype with the insecure, 'pathetic' dudes - he was very open and had no issues getting a woman - but kind of failed to showcase the skill or didn't give him a serious scene to drive the point (then again with how comedic g reco was maybe his were serious enough).
I’m glad Tomino didn’t direct Hathaway he’ll sabotage his own work.
His best work in years has been the Cucuruz Doan movie and he pretty much did nothing in that project, so…
>>23623288That last scene where he crashes the crescent ship into his father still kind of baffles me. I know the megafauna helmswoman is good, but is was she so good that she only hit his father, or did they just crush a bunch of bystanders as well? What the hell?
>>23626133I completely forgot that even happened, alot of g reco scenes weirdly didn't register in my memory properly. Dunno if it's the pacing or the 'randomness' of scenes like that, cause yeah that's pretty extreme
>>23623288>>23623373He's a charismatic leader who poses the ability to be a real threat, though as things happens does not become one. G-Reco showcases all types of people, world views and leaders. Sometimes those you think might be a problem, especially through the Tomino archetype subtext, turn out not to be. You actually have to meet and understand people. Not sure where didn't get any moments to showcase his skills comes from. Competent pilot, already has a girl, have heard people describe him as the smartest idiot in the room which fits with him figuring out plans like the reconguista. >>23626133I can't help but find a lot of G-Reco complaints being missing something where there is nothing to really be missed. They drove the ship into his dad to punish him for warmongering reinforcing the show's general themes of kids should lead the way. Did they randomly kill a bunch of people in this comedic scene they even show his dad rolling away? I feel like people have lost the ability to pick up contextual clues from a scene.
>>23626359>Not sure where didn't get any moments to showcase his skills comes fromMaybe its just that he felt like he should've been in the same 'tier' as mask and bellri but was clearly worse. Maybe it's because of all the comedy that downplayed him? Maybe it's just me being used to characters being more 'one dimensional' and not simultaneously competent and comedic relief? Dunno. I feel like he almost worked well but got stuck in a halfway state of competent pilot and clown - with how the show portrays him im not sure if he's charismatic or just laughingstock who only got so high because of his father.Maybe that's how he was meant to be, but eh, not what I'd call the good kind of vagueness even if it works on paper.
>>23626408>should've been in the same 'tier' as mask and bellri but was clearly worseIf we're talking about fights he does pretty well. I flicked through the episodes cause I thought there were times he gets humiliated in battle. But really the worst I found is Barara kicked him once. He goes up against the better pilots throughout the show and comes away pretty even. Styles on grunts and kills the muscle lady. >im not sure if he's charismatic or just laughingstockNo reason he can't be both
>>23626427>No reason he can't be bothProbably needed more (did he even have one?) scenes with the people under him embracing that kinda fighting style and vibing.>fightsI remember him ending up damaged and retreating alot, giving off a feeling that he lived by luck alone. Mostly felt weird that despite all the genius spiel and that confidence he wasn't better. i.e why I initially said he might've been botched as a character - not hitting that perfect balance in portraying these two sides of him.
>>23626440>him ending up damaged and retreating alot,Flicking through, only thing that really gets destroyed a lot is his javelins. G-Reco fights tend to end in retreats, but that's kind of a Tomino thing> scenes with the people under him embracing that kinda fighting style and vibingIt kind of feels like you approach characters in an overly literal way. Genius is thrown around with Kilm a lot, sometimes genuine and sometimes in jest. He's smart, but also over confident. Talented, but not flawless. He figures things out like the Reconguista or that Cumpa is behind certain events before other characters. But doesn't always have the means to make the most of it. So he makes alliances, tries to control characters like Raraiya. The worst you could say is there's no big final moment to prove or disprove his worth. But that isn't really the point of the character. He's a type of person who exists with the ability to shape events even subtly, might be your ally or enemy. Perhaps if deprived of a mommy gf he is the time of man who could be a real problem.
>>23626477>Perhaps if deprived of a mommy gfkek he'd return as 'slim stick' in sunglasses.. Might be part of it though - felt like other characters were more emotionally invested/motivated/had a more concrete/serious goal.It's probably that I paid too much attention to the comedic side of him, or rather too little to the serious one and what he tried to accomplish, will have to keep it in mind when I eventually rewatch. Oughta be worthwhile since he's the only character out of Tomino gundams that I had this issue with.
>>23623384>>23625816>CGIfestsYuck.
>>23626359>hey drove the ship into his dad to punish him for warmongering reinforcing the show's general themes of kids should lead the way.no, i perfectly understood that was the point of the scene and its good in that way, it just didnt seem very clear to me whether his father was the only one that got hurt or not, which would make it less comedic. i think g-recos tone isnt quite as light as something like l-gaim so you end up thinking about that kind of thing when you watch a scene like this.>Did they randomly kill a bunch of people in this comedic scene they even show his dad rolling away?id have to watch it one more time to check, it really wasnt that clear to me.
>>23627183>id have to watch it one more time to check, it really wasnt that clear to me.My point was you really don't. Even just contextually we can tell Tomino wasn't going for a funny little bit of civilian murder. But I can also confirm we see no one get crushed and his dad rolls away. It's understandable to say scenes in G-Reco could be cut better, but at times it feels like leading a horse to water. Being actually baffled and looking for justifications all feels a bit cinemasins. Like how it's one thing to talk about how car chases in moves should cause many civilian casualties and the implications of how these things are made. Another to walk away confused that the movie featured an awful hit and run in the finale.>i think g-recos tone isnt quite as light as something like l-gaimHaving just finished L-Gaim, that's a wild to me. L-Gaim can be very slapstick, but the show constantly switches back to depressing after Gablae slams his cock in a door. The series deals with mass civilian death of the yarman, but then doesn't question operation stardust. Which going back to the point above, is something you can accept the narrative wants you to go along with. It can be pointed out, even theorise as having thematic purpose but isn't confusing if you view things as stories instead of real world events. To me G-Reco fluctuates a lot less than many older Tomino shows. It has a consistent odd vibe rather than looney tunes to dune.
>>23627229>L-Gaim can be very slapstick, but the show constantly switches back to depressing after Gablae slams his cock in a door.The background setting of L-Gaim is very dark and you have grunts dying frequently but it has way more levity than g-reco and constantly sets precedents for the characters getting out of dangerous situations. Its not just more slapstick, Daba has a whole will-they-wont-they with Amu and Lecce, which leads to light hearted cat fights and a bunch of sweet moments between the three, you constantly have the main cast getting captured and escaping, surviving the most dangerous situations, and even a bastard grunt like Hasha Monsha gets to survive no matter how often he gets shot down. So it can have something like operation stardust and youll think "yeah, i guess the civilians will probably survive this" because thats the kind of expectation the show sets up for you.G-Reco is slightly diffirent. Bellri unwittngly kills Cahill and Dellensen near the very beginning, and having killed her lover(?) instantly puts an uncomfortable tension between himself and Aida who he fell in love with, and that guilt hangs over him for almost the entire series, and the series reminds you of these moments every time Bellri tries to shoot without killing or when the characters off handedly mention grunts dying. It gets you to expect that G-Reco pays attention to this kind of thing and thats why i couldnt help but think "look at those crushed buildings, was everyone really fine?" its just not the kind of comedy that quite fits here especially coming off barely a few minutes after the rather chaotic and violent finale, Id call it a mishap of pacing because G-Reco is too fast to shift the tone like that for such a comical bit.
>>23628699This is highly subjective, but I don't feel like your examples really tip the scales. Love triangles? G-Reco has two including slapstick like Noredo slingshotting Aida in the butt. G-Reco's death count is on the lower side even considering length. With the fraction alliances meaning we get a lot of characters trying to kill each other one minute but fine the next. It's fairly easy to frame either as light. Plus in this comparison. Operation Stardust is a serious event, in a series that had already dealt with a serious genocide. Actually two, the fairies were genocided as well which is explained next to stardust. In general the show will spend more time wallowing in its much more bleak world. So while I can accept the light hearted and just going along with questionable stuff. It can feel at odds with itself. G-Reco's ship scene is a comedic event that doesn't really have a comparison. The world shows a lot less overt destitution. Dellensen's death is a good example cause the show moves on way too fast even for its more upbeat town. Daba will bring up Stella or Lilin way past most viewers would be thinking of them.
>>23628763It is subjective, so I wont insist upon this point too much, but that ship crashing scene just physically baffled me the first time because i didnt think that G-Reco could do this kind of comedy. Again, Id say the cause is the shorter length which provides less time for levity like in L-Gaim.Daba and Amu and Leccee get to have a few giddy kiss scenes or intimate hugs and all around feel good moments. Noredo's thing with Bellri is much more understated and doesnt get the same kind of focus scenes and it takes until the fifth compilation movie for Noredo to even get a big win. The triangle involving Barara/Manny isnt even played for levity but drama and just spurs an inferiority complex in Manny and pent up contempt in Barara.The thing about the genocides in L-Gaim is that theyre more in the background of the story, they inform part of the characters motivations but they dont really have to watch it happen, its mostly in the past for them which is why they can turn their attention to cooking and squabbles and lovey-dovey stuff the next moment. With how often Dabas crew plays catch and release with the antagonists, its much easier to think of contrivances for why operation stardust is probably fine, maybe they'll control the course of the meteors properly, maybe they trust the ones headed for civilians will be shot down by posaydal, maybe theyll get lucky.That kind of thing doesnt happen so often in G-Reco. The setting and situation is less bleak as a whole but the death of Cahill and Dellensen weigh heavier because theyre much closer to the main characters unlike say Dabas familiy and the Yarman people who are so distant that he doesnt believe his foster father when he tells Daba of his lineage. Not to mention G-Recos shorter length makes every instance where killing does happen stick out more by contrast, like the photon torpedo scene. G-Reco sets you up to pay attention when danger happens whereas L-Gaim lets it wash over you.
>>23628763>G-Reco's death count is on the lower side even considering length.G-Reco's death count is not on the lower side, lol, something like King Gainer, sure, but not G-Reco, fucking Cahill dies in the very first episode, then it's Dellensen and four of his boys, then it's full on "Kill'em All" time in the actual war phase with Rockpie, Mon Soon, Mashner and Dorette (and their entire crews as their ships get annihilated), Aida's dad and Chickara, and eventually Klim's dad, G-Reco's body count is fairly high especially for a late Tomino work and they also retconned Barara's death with the movie compilation, it's just that most of the deaths happen near the end and are all on the "bad guys" side rather than the main crew.Consider how in King Gainer the only people who actually died in the end were Ariel, Kizz and Kashmir, G-Reco's bodycount is somewhere around Xabungle's.The thing with G-Reco is that it was rushed to hell so you don't really register a lot of things until you rewatch it and start piecing up a lot of stuff together.>>23628830To be fair L-Gaim is kind of shoddily made in general and wastes a lot of time on SoL filler or contrived drama that doesn't really add much to the show, not to mention some of the slapstick or character writing in general being fairly schizophrenic given the show's context, Amandara/Poseidal being perhaps the biggest and weirdest tonal shift together with the whole subplot about Daba's sister, if G-Reco is so laser focused and condensed to the point it's hard to follow a lot of subplots L-Gaim is the complete opposite where you kinda forget what the fuck the show is even about due to all the goofy shit and weird arcs happening throughout the show.
>>23628936>G-Reco's death count is not on the lower sideYour examples are 99% enemy leaders, which is pretty much the norm for any show. Kill'em All isn't a title cause the bad guys lose in Tomino shows, but just a high percentage of casualties all over. When he's made series where populations, a chunk of the main cast, the entire main cast get killed. Yeah the baddies dying is on the low side.>eventually Klim's dadThe smug attitude doesn't work when you get details wrong. Especially ones just discussed in the thread.
>>23629303Cahill, Dellensen and Aida's dad are far from being bad guys, hell both Cahill and Dellensen are literally accidental deaths that haunt Bellri for the rest of the show, the only ones that classify as actual bad guys in G-Reco and die are Mashner and Dorette, and Rockpie I suppose because he's Mashner's boytoy, everyone else is a shade of grey that are opposing factions but not necessarily evil, Kia and Klim even get along as friends at the end of the show.Which is also why again, Barara's death gets retconned in the movies to make things less grim since G-Reco's a bit more nuanced than "good guys vs bad guys", and even there Rockpie's death and Mashner completely losing her shit over it are rather dramatic and fairly sympathetic as they're supposed to be part and parcel of the theme about the horrors and tragedy of war that are a thing for everyone involved, you're not supposed to be happy about that as much as Mashner in particular IS shown as a "bad guy", only Dorette is shown getting what you might call his just dessert for being a warmonger, but even there it's not exactly a cathartic moment, it's rather gruesome in fact, kinda like Chronicle's death in Victory.It sure isn't as bad as Ideon or Dunbine, but most Tomino shows aren't, even Victory isn't as bad as those, but to say G-Reco death count is on the lower side is factually wrong when it has far more deaths than things like King Gainer or Turn A.>The smug attitude doesn't work when you get details wrong.A man can make mistakes, especially after years since the show came out, doesn't change what I said either way, you just want fuel to attack me rather than my argument.
>>23620614Didn't Tomino say he was now focused only onto his long-delayed Princess Himeko anime? That will probably be his magnum opus and last work.
>>23630104What if he dies while making it?
>>23623288He's a nepo baby whose heart is in the right place. Yeah, he's initially portrayed more like a gag character with him acting as a big shot while being naive and ignorant. But as the story progress, he sees more of the world, gradually grows as a person, culminating in him realizing his dad was a fuck up.
>>23630651What if you die while he's making it?It's just how it goes.
>>23630708That's why they need to hurry it up! Why is Banrise blocking Tomino so much?
>>23628830>its much easier to think of contrivances for why operation stardust is probably fine,In the context of L-Gaim it's treated more like the Jaburo invasion in 0079 (or a dry run for the Zeta one) where Sveto can just move around and everything is protected by a combination advanced technology and slapstick. You even see some soldiers trying to swim away after their defense turrets get hit with waves caused by the meteors. It's definitely not treated like an extinction level event, more so a daring bombing raid.
>>23620614Pic related. I like that G-Self's beam Sabers are like Turn A's. Very thin and very powerful. BTW, are thin beam Sabers like theirs the most powerful beam saber variations? Seems that they are highly concentrated, resulting to having a much better cutting power and improved resistance against anti-beam countermeasures, compared to regular beam sabers. It might result in having a shorter operation time though and any other drawbacks ...
>>23620614When the angels win the pennet.
Didn't he say in one interviews that it's very difficult for him walking now?
>>23620614Are they going to dub this one in English? I don't like reading subtitles.
>>23631410>>23628830>why operation stardust is probably fine, maybe they'll control the course of the meteors properlyThe OVA explains that all land on the planet Sveto is on has been crumbling into the sea (how is this happening? never explained) and everyone lives on floating cities. Also it has the hilarious "I'm so cool" song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHXhFRwi81w
>>23632886>The OVA explains that all land on the planet Sveto is on has been crumbling into the sea (how is this happening? never explained)It's a global warming allegory that rings truer to an island nation like Japan where seaside buildings do slip into the sea.
G-Self looks feminine. When I first saw it I thought it was a Gundam for female pilot.
>>23633625It is. For Raraya.
Raraiya is for a male pilot.
>>23622154lmfao
>>23633841Ringo...
>>23633625I like more androgynous or feminine mecha designs that dont go full gynoid. Its refreshing and original amid all the mecha based on armored knights and samurai with adonis bodies so bulky its like theyre armor for a roided out bodybuilder
>>23633625>G-Self looks feminine.how? it looks like an adolescent boy stroking a broad shoulders pose with bunny ears.
>>23620614I'd like him to get one last Original IP in, but I guess that's too much to ask in the modern market.
There's an interview on him talking about a project in dev that would reflect on Ukraine and Israel's war. I don't know what japs think of those, so I'm unsure what to expect.
>>23620614In 2029.
