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>>23642298

SUPER ROBOT WARS Y available now for PS5, Switch and Steam
DLC - https://youtu.be/kHxv1oD72_8
Launch - https://youtu.be/QgYi233lr74

DLC 1 and update ver1.1.0 out now
https://youtu.be/74lnCOoAJEY

DD news:
New DD focused stream in December 5, 20:00 JST
https://www.suparobo.jp/suparobolive
https://youtu.be/SWkDZ9r5VtI
Mazin Emperor G - Aureole Booster G
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/1994692819299308029
Wing Gundam Zero - Twin Buster Rifle Max Output MAP
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/1994695326809116801
Liam Sera Banfield - Avid
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/1991068944237527123

For discussion on SRC (SRW fangame program), please join the dedicated Discord
https://discord.gg/WrV2AhG

If you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help (links for other resources also here):
https://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars
(add ?action=purge to the end of the url in case of a blank page)

SRW Japanese Wiki
https://srw.wiki.cre.jp/

Booru
https://daitrombe.booru.org/

Game Availability in English:
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If you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artists
Please contact the following e-mail: suparoboeternity@gmail.com
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HOHOHOHO, I AM SANTA ASIA! What do you want for Christmas, /srwg/?
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>>23650383
A new translated PS2/PS3 or DS/3DS SRW.
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>>23650383
Dumped srw y dlc files for switch
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>>23650383
Sentai Red Isekai season 2, and for it to get into SRW a focus series
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76 years old this year.
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Harmony Gold ceasing to exist and og Macross in a SRW game
If not, that sby Yamato in another game
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>>23650408
shame he doesn't seem to want to return to voice char
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>>23650408
oh god, I thought people were joking that he was the Wolf from Shadow Hearts covenant
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>>23650408
He dubbed Charlie Sheen once or twice. Bonus points for it being the same role Kazuki Yaoi did in a separate dub.

https://www.tiktok.com/@seiyu_voice_hikaku/video/7542834337457147154
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>>23650383
OG Final
Or a HG Valguard
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Y is like 35% off on the PSN right now
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>>23650383
A SRW translation.
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I want a Global Rule that bans ritualposts.
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>>23650383
The PSP SRW Z games getting a full translation. PLEASE SANTA ASIA
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>>23650383
Every entry made after X to be erased into another timeline. Erase Cowboy Bebop entirely to prevent another T would also be nice. I'd be okay with Sunrise getting bankrupt after Age to save us from IBO and HF.
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>>23650763
>Keeping V and X but getting rid of Y
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>>23650383
A new FMW arc that covers Ten Desires and Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom.
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>>23650770
>No DDC
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>>23650757
I'm honestly just fine with Z getting a translation, the psp ones didn't have that same wow factor as Z. Remembering how the series progressed still makes sad.
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>>23650776
I don't care for Toei Getter, I want Armageddon Getter. Z can wait.
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>>23650776
You had to be there to understand.
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I want to pilot a a combiner mech with anons from /srwg/
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>>23650667
i hope steam price matches and then we can just use cream api for the dlc.
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>>23650768
Y was a mistake as were T and 30.
>>23650904
You actually want to pilot with other people? I'd trust AI before I trust you guys.
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>>23650508
>OG Final
Honestly, I feel it's better for a remaster or collection of the OGs stuck in the PS2/PS3 era, since part of why MD failed is that it was like the 5th or 6th in a line of games years apart, with only a third of them translated.
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>>23650383
For them to put the OG games on steam. Not even asking for remasters (and definitely don't want another remake), just port them to steam.
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>>23650978
Drool, I'm sorry you lack soul.
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>>23650978
>Y was a mistake

how so?
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>>23651029
You can't tell you are replying to Duel?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6wOBQSHpBE
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>>23651029
It added 3 shows he doesn't like. He hates 30 for the same reason.
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>>23651031
>>23651038
he wasn't bitching about "worst godzilla" or "woke from mercury" so it was hard to tell it wasnt that troll
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>>23651041
He singled out T and 30 with Y, which has Rayearth and Gridman, his other bugaboos.

Like, I hate WFM too, but hes still insufferable.
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>>23651029
>how so?
It ultimately showed how much /srwg/ have battered wife syndrome that they glazed so hard over a subpar SRW title that they have to push every negative opinion about it on to one boogeyman even though it sold worse than 30 in Japan and in the West and had no retention even the new DLC got no traction.
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>>23651029
>Bad cast
>So much missing content
>Shitty animation
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>>23651049
So which SRW have you actually played, Duel?
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Wait so it was Drool that kept spamming negative reviews of the DLC? Holy shit that's somehow even more sad. Do you not have any life outside of seething, man?
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>>23651046
How do we know this isn't just some elaborate falseflag to make the haters look like absolute schizophrenics?
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>>23651049
>It ultimately showed how much /srwg/ have battered wife syndrome that they glazed so hard over a subpar SRW title
Y made me realize how shitty the threads have become and how every mecha fanbase bleed into one another given how the quality of post between /srwg/ and the SRW subreddit were pratically identical. Unless the next title has a major overhaul to the system I'm going to call it quits especially since there's no mecha anime I'm excited about nowadays.
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>>23651055
I don't even think he's ever seen a show either. Like am I really supposed to believe that he loves every single series that's appeared in SRW aside from the ones he won't shut up about?
>>23651060
If it was him, wouldn't he called Witch "Woke"?
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Still miss him?
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>>23651071
How is this even a question
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the pain of 40+ tabs
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I'm not going to pretend this is somehow unique. /m/ has shit on pretty much every SRW since Alpha ended. It shit on K (granted that one kind of deserved it), it shit on L, it shit on Z, and it's sequels, it shit on VTX, Shit on 30, etc. This is just what is done here Sadly.
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>>23651041
The AI part gives it away. It's funny how he keeps bitching and moaning about /m/ being dead and how he is going to quit this place but he keeps posting here daily.
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The next SRW will comprise of only the shows duel hates the most
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>>23651049
got proof it sold worse?

>ib4 that one chart showing PHYSICAL SALES ONLY 30 for PS4/Switch while Y was PS5/Switch
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>>23651128
So, every anime in existence except BDSM Magical Girls.
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>>23651128
THEY'RE IN
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>>23651128
Let's see
Patlabor, Rayearth, Infinite Ryvus, Godzilla singularity point, Valrave, Hathaway's Flash, Gundam Seed Astray, Sentai Red Isekai, Mobsekai, Macross Plus, Planet With, Sora Kake Girl, Gridman/Dynazenon, Ultraman anime, Outlaw Star, Active Raid,

A strange and varied Roster, but there is potential there. Yes this is not the whole list of every mech show he shitposts, but we'd be here all day listing them all.
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https://twitter.com/yaochan_defu/status/1992889168926744683
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found the dlc on a chinamen site
https://ctfile.shipengliang.com/ct.php#/f/49443327-8495185735-ce0639

Who is Saintwing and what does his sound replacement mod do?
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>>23651152
how could you forget IBO
and Key the Metal Idol
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>>23651160
Dang it, I had IBO and WFM on my first list, but catchpa ate it, tried to make the list again, and obviously missed some of the bigger ones. But yeah, he absolutely hates Key.

I also should have had DaiMidaler. That one would fit SRW pretty well.
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password is shipengliang
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>>23651152
I'm guessing a list series of series he likes would be shorter or just plain empty.
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>>23651152
>>23651160
>>23651167
Doesn't he hate BSP too, or is that just the other shitflinger

>>23651170
That zombie idolshit series I guess
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>>23651170
Or outright impossible, like actual tokusatsu, nevermind that Super Sentai is blocked for now since Hasbro has all international rights, and japanese talent agencies are beyond butthurt about 'image control'.
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>>23651128
isnt that Y already?
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>>23651170
Good question. Maybe every Aquarion, Nobunaga the Fool, Jushinki Pandora, Granzort, Acrobunch, Infernocop, Gundam Wing, and bunch of weird shit that isn't /m that he keeps claiming is /m/, and that's about it. Maybe you could pad the roster with shit he doesn't like, but just claims to piss /m/ off, like Eureka7 AO, Pocket Full of Rainbows, Great Dangioh, Candidate for Goddess, etc.
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Stop giving shitposters attention.
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>>23650763
Sunrise has been going downhill since the 2010s...
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I wonder if I should teach Special Skill +1 to Amuro over Support Attack or find some other rando to shove Prevail onto given that its arguably the strongest filler skill in the game.
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>>23651062
I really wanted to like Y. The character interactions have improved significantly, and dificulty is better, but it doesn't change how we're still dealing with issues that have been going on since Z3, and have gotten worse since.

-The new style started in 30 just looks awful. Using 3D models as sprites was a mistake, it just looks off on almost everything, I'd say it even made some animators look worse. They should have used it as reference material.
-The quality issues between animators.
-Side units still getting cut.
-Attack lists issues for both enemy units and allies.
-Enemy rosters still leave out plenty of things (Mazinkaiser missing practically all its enemies is insane).

I know we'll never get something on the level of Z, but I just want them to try.
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>>23651182
I forgot Wataru and Metalic Rouge
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>>23651034
mommy
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>>23651223
Kinda shameless to ask this, but do you have a link for the 1.1.0 update? All i find in the internet doesn't work since citron stuck in launching after installing the update.
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>>23651099
Also, SRW is a Japanese video game franchise. Of course modern gamers won't give you any room to breathe
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>>23651170
>SRW E(mpty)
>You only get a static white screen after booting up the game for 10 houra
>Get 10/10 from "game critics" because how much it subverted the expectation and Gamers who would champion. Anything that isn't AAA games
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>>23651152
I’d love to have Outlaw Star.
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>>23651152
I'd be up for it.
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>>23651152
>Seed Astray
I'm on board just because I want to see it come back
>Patlabor plus Hathaway's Flash
>have to hold off Mafty with a team of Patlabors
Fund it
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>>23651528
I'll never forgive W for not letting me recruit Ed.
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>>23651457
Games journalists only play AAA games. When they try to play Japanese games they get the overwhelming urge to be racist.
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>>23651563
To this day you've still got people who think all anime things are Legend of the Overfiend.
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Happy birthday to me.
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>>23650371
oh there's a DD stream this week?
wonder what will be shown
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>Lunamaria is Rosalina
kek
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>>23651447
It’s because you are using a base nsp that has the 1.02 update merged in and they are conflicting with each other. You need to get a different 1.0 nsp that is clean.
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>>23651447
https://nswgame.com/super-robot-wars-y-nintendo-switch-nsp-xci-nsz-download-free/

This one has a clean 1.0 base nsp.
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>>23651130
>got any proof
>no not that
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>>23651297
>The character interactions have improved significantly,
Too bad they're not particularly memorable and the lack of voiced lines and cutscenes kinda makes it in service of nothing. Yeah Iike the adventures of a socially consensus Char like everyone else but Im not going to remember anything from it.
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>>23651709
everyone knows games sell worse on the PS5 compared to the PS4
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>>23651716
Then why was Y's steam sakes worse than 30's
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>>23651297
Those problems can't be fixed without a boost in budget. That's the problem with HD development and it's something that hits every developer
The only chance is intentionally doing something with simplier assets (but companies don't like it because games like those are harder sells at the 50$+ range they love so much, and also there is no proof it would actually take that much less time to create compared to how much money it ends up making)
Or going all in and bet everything on a game with much higher fidelity, more developers, more years to develop, more money, completely new artstyle, full voice acting with recasts if needed, and in that case good luck finding the right money guy to convince it's something worth doing. And the funny thing Digimon Time Stranger shows it can work, but there are also many other examples where it ended up killing the studio/series
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>>23651721
I really miss handheld SRWs.
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>>23651565
What's that? I assume from my "luck" that it's either something with tentacle rape, or the source of that "your resistance only makes me harder" meme image.
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>>23651723
That's actually a perfect example of the budget issue: when the 3DS games came out their budget was slowly crawling to the level of a console title, and that's why they stopped making them
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>>23651721
DTS is kinda flopping though
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>>23651731
I mean, for all intent and purpose Digimon will never reach full mainstream appeal, but no one thought it would launch to Metaphor's numbers and yet it did. If Bamco expected even more I don't know what to tell them
Like on Steam Time Stranger is at 17k reviews after a few months. Not even the most hardcore fanboy could have predicted a number like this
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>>23651721
Digimon also took a long time to reach this point and they produced many flops between cyber sleuth and time stranger both critically and commercially.
Time stranger also doesn't look like it improved much from the previous digimon story titles, feels like bandai is finally paying their pr team after all this time.
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>>23651731
I heard it was a success.

Plus it's a solid game
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>>23651728
It's tentacle porn.
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>>23651731
It's a success by digimon standards.
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>>23651741
>>23651743
the lack of "success" report like we sold x amount of units though
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>>23651756
I don't expect Bamco to do that unless Digimon hits CoD numbers.
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>>23650383
OG Gaiden translation.
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Why did Hokuto translate Alpha Gaiden but not Alpha 1? Was it because Gaiden had Sanger and 1 didn't?
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>>23651297
>-Side units still getting cut.
>-Attack lists issues for both enemy units and allies.
>-Enemy rosters still leave out plenty of things (Mazinkaiser missing practically all its enemies is insane).
Why are we pretending this is not something that was present in SRW prior to z3?
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>>23651776
Alpha 1 is like thrice as big as Alpha Gaiden
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>>23651776
Alpha gaiden is a much shorter game and alpha 1 was already translated by someone else (at the time people thought it would be done eventually)
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>>23651781
Because its easy to go new bad/old good.
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I think Aeon is afraid of HG getting in the way of his Alpha translation. Big West still has problems with the original Macross in the west (they can only release Macross shows that aren't SDF and DYRL, which HG holds by the balls).
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>>23651797
Lack of roster and the 3d model being crap is valid complaint
Though it's tiring to keep arguing about this, just play something else
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>>23651797
Quality is a boiling frog.
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>>23651805
Every SRW game has at least one series that got shortchanged. In Y, that just so happened to be Mazinger.
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>>23651805
You can complain about those things, but I dunno why people pretend older SRW games had every side character/enemy possible, they just happened to have the ones the complainer in question liked.

Fucking Z2 doesn't even have 0 Gundam in it and that's actually the final fight on top of being a side character unit before then
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Remember when people complained about DLC existing at all and games being released blatantly unfinished so they could sell unfinished content as expansion packs?
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>>23651820
I'm still complaining about DLC series existing, but my voice doesn't really matter.
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>>23651820
The alternative was shit like Pokemon releasing a third version or fighting games asking you to buy the same game twice or even thrice for the entire cast.
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>>23651816
>Fucking Z2 doesn't even have 0 Gundam in it and that's actually the final fight on top of being a side character unit before then
Wow that sounds like it sucks. They give the proper dignity of a final duel to Alejandro in the Alvaaron in Z2-1, but not to Ribbons in the Grandpa Gundam in Z2-2?
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>>23651823
>Pokemon releasing a third version
They still do that, but now it's also split into two games. Black/White 2, Ultra Sun/Moon.
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>>23651826
No. They have not released a 3rd version since Gen 8 when DLC became common practice.
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>>23651825
Saisei is a very narratively dense game since they had to wrap up a metric crapton of plots on top of the Zeuth loose ends and they even included Tetsujin and Macross 7 in the mix. Granted, 7 was purely support for the Frontier cast, but the game was likely bursting at the seams internally.
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>>23651736
>If Bamco expected even more I don't know what to tell them
This is Bamco we're talking about here, they probably are that retarded, doubly so due to the big projects of theirs that failed
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>>23651825
They let you save anew but not her innovade robot
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>>23651833
I mean, Z2.1/2.2 were already splitting series in the middle though. People accepted it because there'd be a conclusion in the next game, so with a set up like this skimping on a final battle really stands out.
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>>23651854
Skipping a final battle is misleading. They didnt do the last part of 00's final battle because Ribbons never got the chance to steal the 0 Gundam's GN Drive from 00. Everything else happened.
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>>23651856
They still cut the 0 Gundam in general which is pretty retarded when it could’ve been a unit
But they did 00 side cast dirty in general including their secret as >>23651848
mentions
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>>23651816
There was a trend of secondary characters getting turned into attacks until people got annoyed with it after Z3, but since then there's also been characters that were playable in most other appearances of the same show that have been left out or shoved into assist jail unless they have sprites that can be recycled.
I don't think we'll ever get any of the old super robot support jets back if they didn't have sprites from Z3 onwards, even if they'd just be one static sprite with a laser and a missile attack like usual.

I'm fine with the assist system for major characters who don't actually pilot anything but some of the picks just feel like they didn't wanna pay the VA fees for reused lines for some support robot.
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>>23651860
The only glaring omission from 00S2 was the 0 Gundam. Anew returning to be the Ptolemaios's subpilot makes sense if you remember what her role was on the ship.
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>>23651863
Pretty much any side unit CB had either got cut or was turned into a attack
it’s like they forgot GN arms was piloted solo at first and they didn’t give a single fuck about GN archer
>makes sense
I don’t think that’s what people care about for secrets, allowing you to choose between giving her a mobile suit or keeping her as crew would have been a far more interesting secret
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>>23651868
>GN Archer
Spent a lot of time being docked on Hal aka Battery-kun.
>GN Arms
Barely do anything in the series to the point that most people forget that they exist.
>0 Gundam
Lasse uses it for a little bit and then it got stolen.
SRW actually threw the 00 cast a bone since the ship could go Trans Am on its own instead of needing to keep one of the pilots benched.

>Interesting secret
I'm willing to bet that anyone who wanted to save Anew did it purely to make Lockon happy than caring about her performance as a pilot. Which IIRC was a result of her being mind controlled since she's not designed for piloting.
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They also turned the GNHW equipment into attacks when they could have been actual upgrades.
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>>23651873
The only reason why I was excited about 00 back in Z2 was to actually use any of those because I thought it would be interesting
It wasn’t, so the inclusion was just okay, in comparison Code Geass had way more going for it, but the same way you’re excusing that for Z2 which people seem to love the logic generally hasn’t changed for stuff left out of modern srw, which is the point really
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>>23651875
When Hakai turned a bunch of characters who did more than Soma and the others into attack only, there was no way they were getting spared. Todoh's flunkies quite literally only became playable to make up for Ohgi/Tamaki getting relegated to subpilot duty.
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I remember when Gundam Throne Drei was a literal single attack unit, which is strange since it has enough for at least 3 attacks minimum
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>>23651877
I mean Ohgi I can get because nobody likes him, but I never understood why Tamaki got relegated to ship duty, just keep him as he was but using their newer grunt with simple animations
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>>23651874
If we take the FM Packs as any indication, it would be a minor stat bump, a new sprite and some extra attacks. Z2 gave us the extra moves but not the other stuff.
00 made out very well in Z2 compared to a lot of a series.
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>>23651881
IIRC Tamaki never pilots anything in R2.
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>>23651883
You remember incorrectly, pretty much the only thing Tamaki does is pilot grunts until the movie, he upgrades into Akatsuki MP
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>>23651883
You remember wrong
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Code Geass is pretty loved in Z2, especially in the playable side when Saisei gives you half a dozen units.
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>>23651887
if I were in charge I'd never make that fuck with the glasses be playable over Tamaki though
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>>23651887
I'm pretty sure the three largest rosters in Z2 were Code Geass, Macross and 00.
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>>23651883
Nah, he does pilot.
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When Roze gets added who's the most likely to be playable? And this includes past Geass characters.
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>>23651891
Saisei's got like 12 Geass pilots + the ship
Frontier has about 9 and 00 is tied with a few others around 5-ish units
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>>23651899
You could make case for Ash, Haruka, Catherine and the red haired chick. The older cast do cameo but they'd get in via the other licenses for their full kit.
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>>23651903
00 has the 5 Meisters + the ship. Its one of the larger rosters.
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00 is 4 + the ship.
Wing is bigger since it's the 5 Wing boys + Noin and Hilde
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>>23651905
I remember someone suggesting just including that mobile game to make things easier.
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>>23651907
the reserve meisters aren't playable, it should just be 4 no?
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>>23651909
If it was that simple they could have added Getter Robo Daikessen to have most Getter content but they never did
I'm afraid rights are not that simple
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>>23651913
Oh right, Lasse/Soma dont get actual units and the other allies were just guests (Patrick, etc).
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>>23651899
For Roze it could probably be the MCs+Haruka guaranteed, maybe Tomo and the other guy if they felt like giving two side characters then Catherine and Narah secrets? Not going to talk about legacy characters because even if they are around it'll probably just be Lelouch, Kallen and Suzaku
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>>23651899
The usual suspects we always get and just 2 of most important characters from Roze, whoever they are
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>>23651899
If they actually do pure Roze, they could skip all legacy characters. Kallen maybe could make it in just because she just pilots her unit from Ressurrection, but Suzaku would need an all new unit that's actually much weaker than Kallen's.
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>>23651937
I could see them adding Re;Surrection as a unit only series so that Suzaku can get Lancelot siN and Lelouch can be playable.
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I'd be really surprised if they don't do something to include Lelouch, Suzuaku, and Kallen even if they're focusing on Rose's plot. Like just throwing the movie in as units only.
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>>23651944
That's what I said. Especially because the Gekkoei Sui literally exists just so Lelouch can be playable since the original Gekkoei did fuck all in the movie. Even Re;Surreection's manga and the mobile games replaced it with the Sui.
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>>23651945
Still surprised that Nightmare of Nunnally never made it to X-Omega. Seems like the type of series they would include there.
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>>23651945
Give us Nightmare of Nunnally already, bamco.
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>>23651820
Now they're selling unfinished content as DLC...
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>>23651820
>>23651951
As ass as it is, holding on to hope that the expansion will add content from DLC 1 and DLC 2 that was missing from its release.
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>>23651947
>>23651948
Maybe some day...
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>>23651952
I'm assuming the DLC packs are probably actually done development by now and Bandai's just spacing them out because they have fuckall for game releases coming up.
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>>23651899
Haruka and Ash are locks. Roze/Sakuya could go either way, depending on how they handle Artemis and Ortygia. I'd say you could toss in either Monobe, Oda or Munemori and a Sekka as another playable; have them work similar to Todoh's gang did in Hakai-hen with the group attack, etc. Narah and Catherine are also possibilities for secrets with their respective Knightmares as well.

They'd like toss in Res just for the core 4/t3 legacy cast to have something since most of them do show up in the show anyway in some form.

>>23651917
00 S2, as much as I loved it in Z2, skipped out on a lot of obvious stuff. No 0 Gundam and Exia R2 in general being the obvious one. I was at least forgiving of the GN Arms being team-attack maps in Hakai but the Exia R2 vs 0 Gundam is like, the final fight of S2 and they just made it 00 vs Reborns instead despite having a perfectly fine Exia sprite. All they would need to do is redo the GN Blade and that's it.

>>23651948
NoN could be really fun if they wanted to play around with Geass; same thing if they wanted to bring back some of the old forgotten characters like the twins from the DS game.
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>>23651965
>Pac-Man,
woah, Kamen Rider representation!
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>>23651945
>>23651948
>>23651969
I still feel like NoN could pair fairly well with GQX.
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>>23651899
With or without Re;surrection? Because I don't see them not having the past 3.
As for new, Ash and Haruka are probably locked in with Catherine and Narah too, Secrets or default.

I'd like to say they bring in Cornelia but if they didn't yet I doubt they will for her one scene thing.

>>23651909
The ongoing mobile game has recently reached the Roze storyline and has been expanding on it with new material and characters, though its only 3 chapters in currently. It also in side stuff expanded on what Akito's cast did after their series and the organization they are part of currently.

In the current Roze storyline, the LS protagonist is working for Kaguya's group and basically acting as a Quattro type/mentor to a new character named Souma, as well as having another new character who is the daughter of Darlton.
Theres also new antagonists, including a Geass user that justifies Lelouch and C.C. getting involved. Suzaku and Kallen also got "new" Knightmares, with an upgraded Albion Zero and Guren Special. Theres been a big effort in expanding on the stuff and better integrating of past charcters with new elements.

>>23651914
It depends. Lost Stories has become a big thing for Geass since it launched. There have been tie ins and it does get pushed.
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>>23651905
Hopefully Kallen gets her upgraded Christmas cake boobs.
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If we can Lost Stories, then can we get God Rebellion and various other cool things from it as well please?
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>>23651975
Yeah that would make sense.
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>>23652021
God Rebellion is just an all around fun What If too. Just avoiding Zero Requiem to turn Lelouch, Suzaku and MC into a super robot team with cool things like Kallen even doing a "This hand of mine" speech into a Burning Finger. Its basically perfect for SRW.
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>>23652031
And don't Akito and the Zevon twins get Super Robots too?
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>>23652032
Attacks. Kallen, Akito and the Oz twins all do homage attacks to super robot shows.

Everyone already knows they did the obvious with Kallen doing G Gundam
Akito does one based on Wataru
Orpheus with Daitarn 3
And Oldrin to Fighbird

The logo for the event is also a reference to Gravion.
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I just beat the DLC and it just made me wish the DLC came out day one so I could have played it as I played the game naturally. And even then I would still wish ot was part of the game proper. Espscially The Big O which is one of my favourite mecha shows. It gets so weird they could do a lot with it.

Steampunk in SRW was cool though. Overall not bad just...fuck the concept of DLC I guess.
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How would you guys feel about a SRW roster with half the amount of entries we normally get or less, but we get a tighter story, more units, more attacks, better animation and graphics etc.?

I dont have a better example but this is what Kingdom Hearts 4 is doing. Less worlds but bigger and more graphics or whatever.
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>>23652101
>Kingdom hearts 3
Did World War 3 happen in your universe? Who won the 2026's world cup?
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>>23652101
Depends on the roster and final product then.
There are series in all the ones I've played that I don't care for that I could ignore because there were things I did like. A smaller roster but its mostly stuff I don't like or don't care about, I probably would pass on it.

And then of course, the elephant in the room is Gundam, where UC is pretty much mandated. With a smaller roster but 2/3+ of those casts have to be Gundam(s), Mazinger and Getter and it really doesn't matter anymore how much "tighter" the roster is. And I say this as someone who likes using a number of Gundams, UC or otherwise.
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>>23652137
I'm from the universe where Char piloted the Big O and made it 3 times as big obviously but dont tell anyone
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>>23652101
I'd be more opposed to it if Y didn't have a LOT of "Why the fuck are you even here" type series
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>>23652140
>And then of course, the elephant in the room is Gundam, where UC is pretty much mandated. With a smaller roster but 2/3+ of those casts have to be Gundam(s), Mazinger and Getter and it really doesn't matter anymore how much "tighter" the roster is.

I wish we got the all showa SRW for grandpas they tossed around. If it was just MSG it'd probably be more balanced.
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>>23652150
>Why the fuck are you even here" type series

What were the biggest why the fucks for you? Char and Amuro were like that for me. But I played J right before Y and was just happy G Gundam was story relevant. G gundam in J was exponentially worse than Char and Amuro in Y
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>>23652150
Only CCA and NBW felt like hang ons.
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>>23651297
>The new style started in 30 just looks awful. Using 3D models as sprites was a mistake, it just looks off on almost everything
i'd say its more of a mixed bag, I think the 3D model looks pretty good for Supers like Combattler or Reideen, it really sells how huge they're, but yeah, it looks pretty bad on some
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>>23652101
On paper, I don't think it inherrently sounds terrible, but keep in mind that SRW like that could suffer from an "I just want to use my favorites" lack of interest.
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>>23652101
that sounds really cool on theory but the real result would be that the series that end up cut are all the "mid-tier" series that only really get spotlight from SRW and dont really move units like MJP, Gun X Sword, Cross Ange, Wataru, etc
you'd get nothing but Gundam, Mazinger, Getter and Code Geass
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>>23652176
>you'd get nothing but Gundam, Mazinger, Getter and Code Geass
...OYW with Mazinger, Getter and Geass TV sounds rad to me.
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>>23652179
sure, for one game, but if you limited it to, lets say, 10 series per game, you already know theres gonna be ATLEAST 3 Gundams, a Mazinger, a Getter, a Code Geass and a Brave Series, thats already 60% of your roster gone (thats without even considering non-regular series that already repeat a lot like Dunbine, L-Gaim, some Gridman, some Macross, Votoms, etc.)
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>>23652168
The last boss of the DLC looked really bad to me. Probabaly the worst of the new era of 3d Sprite things I've ever seen so far. It's a terrible last impression and thing to happen for a final boss. All his books were reused 2d sprites too so it really sticks out. He should have had steampunk looking dudes to match. At least Iori got....1 extra...line of dialogue... I'll never be buying SRW DLC again
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>>23652176
>Wataru

Didn't they pick this because it was so huge in China and other places out of Japan?
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>>23652176
>>23652101
I feel like even just cutting the Gundams a bit would go a long way sometimes. Do like J and W and just don't have UC for a game or two, that kind of thing.
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>>23651128
Zoids New Century Zero?
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SRW Shrug

G-Reco
G-Quuuuuux
Govarian
Groizer X
New Getter Robo
Godzilla Final Wars
Janperson
Diebuster
Aquarion Logos
Unit Pandora
Nobunaga The Fool
Metallic Rouge
Star Driver
Harlocl Saga
Roze of The Recapture
Fafner The Beyond
Jushin Liger
Ryu Knight TV
TV Evangelion and EoE
Steel Jeeg
Brave Raideen
Fighbird
Acrobunch
Ultraman Z
Kamen Rider Drive
Dorvack

>>23652101
So SRW T?
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>>23652243
Most of the games that do Z/ZZ/CCA essentially have three series to only have a combined unit footprint of like say Wing (if so much).
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>>23652309
I'd say that's true for Z/CCA, but when you add ZZ you add at least 4 units on top of that (ZZ, the 3 Qubeleys, recent games also had Mashymre and even Glemmy once recruitable with their own suits).
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>>23652322
>3 Quebeleys
Haman doesnt always join.
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>>23652280
I dont really see your theme
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>>23652309
I know, I just feel like there have been times they would have been better served by cutting those and using that time expanding one of the other Gundam series in the game. I'd rather they do a couple Gundams well than a bunch of them poorly just because "well we have to put it in there just to tick the box"
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>>23651820
god yeah. Worst case is FFXV where the final dungeon is DLC and the final piece of DLC ruined the ending
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>>23652353
The thing is, more often than not UC Gundam only serves as a supporting cast to whatever the primary gundam series (or Dragonar in MX's case) is in that particular game.
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>>23652327
She should always join and also nurse me.
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>>23651868
The lack of secrets was worse, I really wanted stuff like Bushido, Zech's with Epyon, Regnant, Sergei, or Nenaplayable, plus some of those MSV's, specially since even back then we knew it would be a while before we saw tv wing or tv 00 in another game
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>>23651781
>>23651797
>The older games didn't do it so why are you complaining about the newer games no doing it

And this is the same cuck mentality that has allowed the franchise to become stagnant in recent years. I'm actually willing to test out DD now despite it being gacha slop
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>>23651899
>Roisterfagging over Roze of all titles
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>>23652391
Enjoy your loading screens
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>>23652393
You say that as if Geass TV show will ever come back.
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>>23652155
G Gundam feels like it's only in J just so SEED isn't the only Gundam rep in the game. Of course, we can't forget NEO where it was the only Gundam series but it was post-plot with only Domon and Devil Gundam appearing. Another example could be Crossbone in X.
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>>23652453
Y did good with G tho, Domon was really funny in it
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>>23652504
>>23652509
G may have been post-plot again in Y but it still felt like Domon and pals were an integral part of the cast. Pairing him up with Shinn and Suletta was a great move.
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I love that side mission where the Shuffle Alliance and Wing boys play security for Walkure.
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>>23652575
Athrun "I'm letting someone else mentor Shinn for me" Zala.
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>>23652584
Athrun knows nobody can fuck up more than he did.
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>>23652584
Genuinely the smartest move he ever made. A meatheaded 'tard like Shinn needs someone who went through that to whip him into shape.
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>>23652509
>>23652575
Domon taking the mentor role this game effectively left Amuro with nothing to do, atleast Kamille became best buds with Show and Daba and was coined an unnoficial Aura Battler
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>>23652592
Amuro kinda ended up mentoring Hayate. Honestly though I'm fine with him not being the Designated Mentor Character.
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>>23650371
For a single, brief second I thought that was a Gunvolt character.
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>>23652509
I literally do not care about any of this. I'm all for G wank but Suletta is such a boring character and Shinn being relegated to a bumbling retard post Destiny is a downgrade
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>>23652623
That's a you problem, then. Most of us enjoyed it a lot.
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>>23652592
I don't like how Kamille treated Char in Y.
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>>23652636
Char deserves worse, even if he did realize how bad he fucked up.
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>>23652592
Amuro was the leader of the mobile unit forces, but in practice that just meant he got to say some generic attack calls calling people to go forward. He had some good scenes here and there, but no real consistent solid "role", since they did nothing with that.
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>>23652640
It's funny how the Zero Requiem actually got Char to change his ways. Suck it, Mineva.
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>>23652642
I feel that was a consequence of Neo Zeon being with the good guys since the beginning in Y. There is no rivalry with Char because the 2nd Neo Zeon war never happened and will never happen. There is no rivarly with Scirocco because Kamille has it (and Scirocco is closer to Poseidal in Y which means Kamille is closer to Daba and Show). There is no rivalry with the other Gundam villains because they all join the "villains for the lulz" side like Wong, Djibril and Ulube
And so Amuro is just there, he partecipates but has nothing to do. Even when the party blows up Axis it's a group effort that doesn't require a psycoframe
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>>23652660
How was Amuro handled in D since that also had Zeon joining forces with the heroes too?
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>>23652659
She probably would..
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>>23652660
Really, as the leader of the mobile forces, you'd think at least NOAH brand would care about him, but they didn't even bother and each one mostly acknowledged their own personal rival. You'd think Yazan would be excited about facing Amuro, but he was all about Kamille due to being a Zeta character. There's also that one guy from L-Gaim, who gets completely humiliated by Amuro in his debut, but yet again, that gets completely forgotten and he only cares for Daba afterwards.

They do mention the Nu's Psychoframe to unite everyone's wills during the Axis part (at least in the Reject path), although obviously it ends up overshadowed by the OG and A.Advent since the power is channeled into them and then you get their combined attack animation, while Amuro just gets a couple of lines beforehand.
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>>23652381
Z2 was very sparse with secrets. It was mostly units and optional items.
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>>23652623
whatever drool, we dont care
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>>23652575
Of the "Post Plot Robots lost their best attacks in the early game for balance/plot reasons, and then have a mission to get it back", Domon's was probably the best (though Reideen's was pretty good to), with Domon just trying to work through Master Asia's death, and get his grove back, it felt very natural to the character.
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>>23652785
She's never getting GAB L. Never ever.
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>>23652792
Catchpa ate my image
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>>23652623
So, you're saying Shinn should still be angry and hating everyone.
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>>23652623
Shinn gets to go one vs one against Domon in the stage where Domon is getting back to his best mentally. Just because he's around for some funny lines doesn't mean he's a joke.
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>>23652720
I remember another thing that annoyed me, we get extra Scopedogs in Saisei, but only Chirico could use them. I really wanted to put Fyana in something better.
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>>23652623
You really need to stop judging the game by D180223 screenshots. He's a very inconsistent screen shooter.
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>>23652845
There's one missile scopedog she could use, but yeah, she can't use the others
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>>23652854
He doesn't even watch the videos? He just looks at the thumbnails and judges the game based on that?
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Still kinda floored they didn't have Skull come from Byston Well like Master Asia did, seems like it would be a simple detail rather than going for a smaller dose of the "different timeline/dimension" stuff.
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What’s with the dlc 1 character’s having the cheap music?
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>>23652898
Really disappointed that Braigar didn't have the J-9 theme song.
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>>23652908
The chinese website has a switch hack with 1 gig of premium songs, but it was downloading really slow so I didn’t bother.
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>>23652892
Oddest part about making him come out of another dimension is that during the main game there's this huge plot point about the timeline being closed due to Getter Emperor with it being really hard to break into it, only supposedly opening by the end, but no one even tests to see if it's really true. Although I guess the V/X/T/30 stages were already ignoring that anyway.
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>>23652898
All the DLC characters in 30 only had the equivalent of standard game bgm too (although none suffered from Braiger's "unlicensed OG theme issue), none had a Premium level song aside from Getter Devolution, which was also a theme technically made for the game.

Getter Noir might end up with something siimilar ehre, since they're advertising its original theme song, unlike Braiger's.
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>>23652941
That was as also really shitty. Why bother doing it if they can’t do it right?
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>>23650371
OG mech gets the second form
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>>23652679
"I haven't forgotten about you kidnapping us, Char" because D starts with Char managing to miss Earth with Axis.
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>>23652800
yeah
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>>23652628
>>23652776
i like how anytime anyone talks shit abiut G0Shit here it's always the same two retards seething at it
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>>23652660
I feel like that's really reflected in the Nu itself too. It practically got nothing new, so it really just feels like they had CCA in purely so that they could have Char rather than giving a shit about Amuro. Like at least give us Nu DFF or Nu HWS or something, anything at all!
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>>23653274
Y as a whole feels like table scraps someone tried putting together into a game, Amuro wasn't gonna get anything new.
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>23653268
As opposed to the one retard that can't stop seething at G-Witch being well-liked
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>>23652833
he didn't play the game
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>>23652695
Yazan really has no reason to give a fuck about Amuro, he constantly fought Kamille and the Zeta while Amuro is just living off his 0079 legacy and we already know Yazan isn't the type to care.
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>23653283
As opposed to the one retard who actually thinks G-Shit is well-liked and starts boogeyman posting the moment anyone calls it shit
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>>23653276
>>23653274
Amuro really doesn't deserve anything new, he had a a bunch of new shit in 30 and the Nu Gundam gets new stuff often, in comparison Char barely got anything in 30 being punished Quattro
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>>23653290
I don't care if you hate G-Witch, I'm just tired of you chimping out about it in the same way every single goddamned time. I'd tell you to take meds but in your case they'd probably just make you worse.
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>>23653293
What bunch of new shit? Amuro got more in D than he did in 30.
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>>23653294
>you
Again, I'm not your fucking boogeyman and never once said anything bad about Y. I just think G-shit is trash
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>>23653300
You are our boogeyman.
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>>23653295
>yet another Nu Gundam remake
>yet another Hi Nu remake
He has more plot presence than Char does as well.

Amuro isn't some underused character, he can take a backseat in one game.
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>>23653295
He got a bunch of new lines in 30 at the very least, and technically he got "new shit" because the Nu and Hi-Nu were completely redone. It's just that Arios-san Nu was so good that 30Y Nu feels mostly like a downgrade in comparison.
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We really do need Nu HWS back.
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>>23653307
We really need Hi-Nu HWS back.
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>>23653303
I want UC gone for a couple games if they're not gonna do anything with them.
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>>23653295
The OG Gundam, MP Nu, Nu and Hi-Nu (DLC) were all fully new sprites in 30 (even though it's kind of dumb since the Nu and Hi-Nu just ended up with worse animation than the previous ones). Y then just changes the beam rifle animation and gives some retouches to the All Out attack, giving it smoe newtype/psychoframe effects. .
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>>23653314
Y does a lot with Char and Kamille though.
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>>23653316
Yeah, Neo Zeon Kamille was cool to see, and having Char being a good guy from the start was pretty refreshing too. Wouldn't mind if the next game had something similar, but I have no idea how they'd do that without the same Zero Requiem excuse.
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>>23653319
Drag the out of Sunny's aura. When it comes to the three fairies, just spam Murasa's MAPW until their HP is lowish. After that, pop a bomb and go for the kill.
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>>23653322
ye I just lured chen out and bursted them in one turn later. still kind of annoying
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What the hell is going on? Why don't my replies register!?
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>>23653308
I don't think that exists.
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An SRW with a bunch of UC MSVs, but the only UC characters available are from F91, G-Reco and Turn A.
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>>23653373
>Hi-Nu HWS
It exists, but was never in SRW. The Nu HWS was in SRW though.
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>>23653300
Youre really bad at this
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Is Mist based on Duke Fleed, or some other mecha MC?
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People are way too happy to rewrite history. I'm pretty sure nobody liked the new characters when the show was airing.
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>drool bringing up off-site drama
>AGAIN
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>>23653413
I liked the the new squad better.
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What the fuck causes people to be so reflexively angry over this show
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>>23653414
>anyone making posts I don't like is Duel
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I still can't understand this sentiment that Destiny uniquely ruined Cagalli. Seed was already doing everything in its power to treat her like a sack of wet flour before then, yet nobody seems to remember that.
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What's the point of screencapping all of these off-site posts, Drool?

To gets us to waste to $10 on a SA account an shitpost against them?
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>>23653425
I just told you, I'm not Duel.
The point is that I'm lonely and looking for a way to socialize.
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Why is drool so retarded
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>>23653413
They didn’t. The audience preferred the OG cast (and they got their wish when Kira and co returned).
>>23653416
>>23653420
It’s the standard “Destiny is le bad” meme which only Americans believe.
Best just to ignore the comments and enjoy the LP.
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One of those rare memes that is also a factually true statement, funny enough
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>>23653457
Not really.
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>>23653420
I mean, she had drama, but she stood up and was portrayed as being able to take charge in the frontlines.

SEED Destiny has her just crying for 70% of the season without making any effective move, and when she does make her comeback, she's quickly sidelined. Like you can say early signs of her Destiny characterization were in SEED, but there was a lot of other stuff people liked about her, which are mostly missing from her Destiny version.
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>>23653453
Pretty much. People love the OG cast, especially Kira and Lacus. They were always winning polls back then. So, of course Shinn's hostility towards them made fans of those characters dislike him.
>>23653493
Also, I believe people were confused on whether or not she and Athrun were still a thing since it seemed like Meyrin was being set up as his new love interest.
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>>23653528
>>23653535
everyone's favorite gay straight man
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>>23653581
Lelouch is very gay for Suzaku
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>>23653373
It does. It's just a model-kit only thing although it's shown up in the Gundam Diorama Front browser game of all things.

SRW's just never used it because they typically treat the Nu HWS and Hi-Nu as sidegrades from each other the last time we got both.
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>>23653594
And the other configuration.
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It'll never happen, but I'd love to see Methuss Kai or Gundam MK. III return.
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>>23653458
Yah really
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>>23653453
>Best just to ignore the comments and enjoy the LP.
I don't want ignorance to spread. People still think Fukuda schtupped Cagalli's seiyuu and say that's the reason Kira became the MC.
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Plus like I said, I still don't understand where this "Cagalli was good until Destiny" sentiment comes from. It's like the midsection of Seed I watched was from a different reality than everyone else's.
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>>23653652
Cagalli was in charge of being an annoying cunt in SEED, I feel like the only reason anyone ever liked her was for shipping purposes.
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>>23653645
Probably doesn't help Cagalli was recasted in Freedom and I don't think it was ever revealed why. Speaking of rumors, do people still think Fukuda hates Super Robot Wars?
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If you can't understand that Cagalli is WORSE in Destiny then there's no helping you.
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>>23653667
Is Cagalli in Destiny any worse than Athrun in that show?
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>>23653671
Everyone in Destiny was the worst version of themselves.
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>>23653671
Athrun fails to tard wrangle Shinn by being the worst mentor possible, but he does make an attempt
Cagalli is crying
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>>23653671
Athrun at least got to do stuff even if he was possibly the most incompetent person in all Gundam
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>>23653667
Pretty sure this is all that one guy who writes vapid posts about shit he's watching and treats it like homework, so it's kind of a given that his brain barely functions
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>>23653654
>I feel like the only reason anyone ever liked her was for shipping purposes.
Pretty much.
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Oh hey, someone brought up how the goss about Cagalli is an unproven rumor before they could even say what the rumor was.
>>23653667
She absolutely is, but the way people talk about her in Seed makes her sound like she was Kiki from 08th MS Team, though Kiki wasn't really the best character either given her main purpose was to be leered at while naked, have her whole village killed, and end up raped and killed in that one novelization.
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>>23653665
I mean...

https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23362606/#q23363339

Although those messages have been deleted and he more recently posted about the "honor" of making it to SRW, so it's definitely something they shoved under the carpet.
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>>23653742
It probably isn't a good thing to hear people insulting your work by saying a video game facsimile of the show is a superior version of it. I wouldn't say stuff like that even about crap like Nadesico PoD or Macross Zero.
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>>23653881
Would you say it about Eureka Seven though? Its hard to do worse than any of the E7 stuff after the TV series.
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>>23653888
Not even about that. Plus I have a hard time believing SRW even managed to do that justice after the shitshow that was their handling of Pocket Full of Rainbows.

Also I feel like they were already dropping the ball back in Z1 by robbing the Spec 3 of the Spec 2's MAP and only giving it two attacks.
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>>23653902
You only have Spec 3 for the last two-parter mission
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>>23653881
I would. PoD is barely enough of a story to begin with, and just about every time it's been included in SRW it's been noticeably improved.
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>>23653881
On the other hand, sometimes people eventually realize that maybe wasn't as good as they thought it was.
>>23653954
Wasn't one of the problems that there were plans to continue but the movie didn't do well enough to warrant a sequel? I think there was a Dreamcast game that took place after but even that ended on a cliffhanger.
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>>23653652
>>23653654
I just like the cool tomboy and ship her with Kira
>>23653962
>Wasn't one of the problems that there were plans to continue but the movie didn't do well enough to warrant a sequel? I think there was a Dreamcast game that took place after but even that ended on a cliffhanger.
Yeah, there was a game to bridge the gap between anime and movie, but it only came out in Japan. There was going to be at least one more movie if the first one did well. I heard they've since told the plot in a manga, not sure if true
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>>23654030
The only manga I know of is the Kia Asamiya one which was very different from the anime. Unless there was another manga that was only released in Japan.
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>>23654050
>The only manga I know of is the Kia Asamiya one which was very different from the anime
Guess I'm mixing things up again then, that's a shame
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>>23654030
>Yeah, there was a game to bridge the gap between anime and movie
There wasn't. Blank of Three Years has almost nothing beyond the "death" scene to link to PoD.
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>>23653962
How would that possibly make up for what the movie did?
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>>23654030
I personally think Cagalli deserved better, both in SEED and especially Destiny.
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That was fun. Having a proper MAP for once was nice.
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>>23653911
So? The spinning wave-motion cannon move would've worked just fine as a MAP.
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>>23653881
>It probably isn't a good thing to hear people insulting your work by saying a video game facsimile of the show is a superior version of it
It can serve as a good wake up call to the fact that maybe the thing you made is, in fact, kind of shitty and that you could have done better.
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Retard here, what's with the white knight(macross) and Elan(WfM) having ace bonuses? Are they secret units or something?
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>>23654682
No.
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>>23654682
Ace bonus is a required part of unit data for them to be playable.
And they're both guest units for one stage each.
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Oh man Support Defend sure has been useful in FMW, it sure would suck if every end game enemy just had Fury
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>>23654820
It's required for all pilots, not just blue units. You even get to see a bunch of enemy/boss ace bonuses in effect on lategame Expert.
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>>23654899
Yup. My mistake, wrong choice of words there.
When I said 'playable' I meant that in the sense of a piece on a board. Should've maybe used 'fieldable' instead.
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20 mins left for SRW DD stream! So take a guess about new unit in... either Chapter 4: Part 5, Super Robot Wars 3 Another: Part 5 or Short Scenario event?

As for a new unit from SRW OGs, they will revealed it in the next Conquest event.
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>>23654981
Wait the shit, this might be a suit Chris only pilots in Gihren's Greed. Not even the Tamakoshi manga for War in the Pocket showcased this.
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>>23654999
It's been in DD for like a year now
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>>23654999
https://youtu.be/CeKBrCFILWk

She was added for quite some time now.
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So MSF will be the last Freedom unit added.
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>>23654999
It's the FA Alex, yeah. Showed up in Katana iirc, although that was red variant rather than the Alex that Chris herself piloted.
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Ban Axia Delta for spamming.
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>>23654981
I love it when they turned characters' final duel into a combo attack, it's always unintentionally funny
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I didn't realize there was going to be a DD stream at all
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>Astray series has been going for over 20 years
>multiple books and manga
>no animation
>one appearance in Super Robot Wars
Why do they hate it so much? I just think the Red and Blue frames are neat and would like to see them again
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>>23655001
But the FA Alex? Nope.
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>>23655073
>no animation
Maybe not a full series, but it did have two special shorts. Shows off the Red Frame Flight Unit and Blue Frame 2nd L in unique scenarios.
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>>23652162
What the fuck is NBW?

Personally I don’t think any series was randomly there, like CCA had Zeon featured heavily for other Gundam series in the first half and all the new story sprites everyone got was welcome.
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Is DD practically the pseudo-handheld SRW?
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>>23652509
Which chapter and mission is this from? I hope it’s not 3 because I haven’t seen this exchange yet.
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>>23655119
>What the fuck is NBW?

New Byson Well?
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>>23655138
Neo Byston Well.

So just say Neo Dunbine.
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>>23654968
>>23654970
Why does Shin look so off? They even changed his hair color, wtf
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>>23655138
Ok that’s fair, if you unlock the mission early Shion and Black Knight are not acknowledged in any form for multiple chapters. Don’t even know when they will pop up after their intro.
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Didn't notice until now that Hyoma was a Toeiman.
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Can you just fuck off with the SA screenshots?
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>>23655176
...is that person unfamiliar with the sideburns era of super robots?
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>>23655226
It's SA, of course he is.
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>>23651049
>Battered Wife
That's gamers in general nowadays considering they love to talk about how they are anti censorship but then will let every censorship slide over and over again especially in Chinese gacha
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>>23655081
Yes, it has. The regular Alex isn't in DD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qqwmiC5dAE
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3 years since the passing of Ichiro Mizuki.
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>>23654973
I just noticed in the trailer, Gunbuster is fighting the generic OG mook rather than any STMC. Does that mean the series is gonna be post-plot with Noriko coming from another universe like with Daimos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-b0Z-xjjw
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>>23655151
Shion gets random scenes here and there, even if most of them are either him being confused or seething at Show because they forced a comparison for the 10th time.
Black Knight's first appearance after the debut isn't until the Sveet Raid extremely late in the game (I think like Chapter 6?).
Shot is the only NBW character that feels relevant and that's by virtue of him existing in the TV series.
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>Decide to play Impact on a whim
>Dunbine units basically do chip damage until 130 Morale
>The best low investment one is mutually exclusive with the ability to preupgrade Grendizer for Part 2 and Master Asia
Yes, I know that Show was strong in Compact 2 but this feels like an overcorrection.
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>get the PoD units in W
>they're all garbage compared to their series versions
>even the Nadesico got gutted and lost its missiles
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>>23655178
I want to make conversation with people and this is the only way I know how to do it.
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Why did I watch SDF Macross if it's not canon
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>>23655462
Why are you treating shows like homework?
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>>23655350
>Garbage compared to the TV Versions
The customs have higher stats overall in pretty much every relevant category. So no.
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>>23655471
Actually yes.
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>>23655468
Because he hasn't found a good enough toaster yet
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>>23655471
He's just mad since they don't have separate frames anymore
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>>23655491
The only TV Frame that has some sort of niche on PoD is 0G on the couple of water maps very early into Part 2 when they're finishing Gonzo FMP.
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he comes
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>>23655499
I hope he comes next game as well.
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The PoD Aesties in W just needed Combo on their Distortion Attacks to be more fun to use
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>>23654353
You get it so late that losing the MAPW is not really an issue.
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>>23653453
Sequel protagonists are generally not liked, doubly so if they hate the original heroes.
It's only Destiny that has people acting like Shinn getting memed on is some sort of grand travesty when its business as usual.
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>>23655576
Yeah, sequels with brand new casts can be very risky especially with the original cast is so beloved. I think a good example of this Soul Calibur V. A lot of fan favorites were cut and some replaced with their children/apprentices. Lots of people hated them, especially Sophitia's kids, to the point where the next game was a reboot that erased them all.
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>>23655572
This, Land route even gives you Asakim for all your map attack needs, but you won't need him since spec 3 can kill everything by itself.
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>>23655294
Mazin Go, Aniki...

Mazin Go.
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>>23655499
and so have I
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Since they've been getting creative with PoD in V and T by bringing back Yurika, they should just include Gai again next time by default. They should be able to get Seki to record some new lines.
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>>23655673
Bringing back Yurika is easy, she just needs to get some time to rest and recover after being used as a living battery.
Gai is never coming back unless TV is also part of the cast (R/W)
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>>23655673
>>23655674
They should include the entire Aesti trio too
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>>23655680
Still one of V and T's biggest mistakes. I wanted the whole trio, not just Ryoko.
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>>23655576
Are you really going to keep up these historical revisionist "hot takes" of yours?
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>>23655576
Shinn was always a character people wanted better from. People expected better for him because he was the protagonist and since Destiny is basically CE Zeta.

Look at the response to the movie and how much people liked Shinn in it.
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>>23655707
>everyone commenting on a discussion is totally the same person
>>23655730
Yes, its a shame that the writers pandered to the fans and fucked over Shinn in the process.
However, Shinn (and Lunamaria) also got a lot of love by virtue of their VAs becoming immensely popular as a couple and it transferred onto them.
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>>23655738
No, Morosawa pandered to herself. Not that Kira and Lacus weren't popular, because Japan did love them. But there was a lot of stuff fans did like from Seed or Destiny that did get fucked over. Shinn and Luna were never unpopular, then there was separating Athrun and Cagalli which was extremely popular as a pairing, and other stuff.
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>>23655748
>Morosawa pandered to herself
What's that supposed to mean?
>Shinn and Luna were never unpopular
A lot of comments I saw at the time were people bitching that Shinn was a whiny loser who they wanted chucked out of the show so they could have their badass Kira Yamato back in the protagonist role.
Also pretty much everyone disliked and still dislikes the idea of giving Athrun a harem in substitution for Cagalli. So that damages Luna as much as Meyrin and Meer.
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>>23655773
This is the worst attempt at trying to pretend you were paying attention at the time I have seen in a long time.
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>>23655773
I think they're saying Murosawa was showing favoritism towards Kira and Lacus compared to Shinn and Luna. Supposedly she self-inserted as Lacus and her husband as Kira.
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>>23655809
That's a kinda stupid thing to think. Just because you hate a character doesn't make them a self-insert.
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Also how do I prove I'm not Duel or disingenuous
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>>23655818
Post proof you played literally any SRW so we know you aren't Duel
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>>23655818
If you play the games, comment on a gameplay mechanic, any SRW will do.
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>>23655822
I've only finished OGs. I stopped playing Z1 21 chapters in so I could go watch a bunch of shows on the game's list so that I could use Getter G, God Sigma, Gravion and Aquarion without feeling guilty for my lack of knowledge about them.

I still have my save file for Z1, though.
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So is SEED Destiny actually worth watching? I've always heard mixed/negative enough stuff that I just stopped after SEED.
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>>23655825
Uhhhhh...I'm genuinely not sure if I should be spamming All and Tri attacks or focusing on killing single units with Center formation. Would like to know which is more efficient.
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>>23655826
Boot up that save file and post the intermission screen as proof, then.
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>>23655827
It's worth watching if you're crazy like me and actively rotate between sub and both dubs while watching the show. I really like the voice actor NYAV found for Shinn, but generally there's a lot of the cast I prefer to listen to the Ocean dub for. And the sub is so I don't have to listen to any of Lacus or Meer's singing in English.

It's still not a good show, though. If you remember Seed well enough, all the issues that show had are amplified tenfold.
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>>23655827
If you want to watch the Cosmic Era in its entirety, just grit your teeth and watch it. It's not bad but it's pretty eh if you're not really interested in the universe like I was. I only watched it just to finish my Gundam series backlog.
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>>23655839
Shinn had two actors in the NYAV dub. From what I've heard the one in Freedom sounds better than the one from Destiny. Interestingly, Freedom also brought Trevor Devall from the Ocean dub back as Mu.
>>23655844
To be fair, I think the reason the Cosmic Era is so popular is because of the characters. That's why Kira and Lacus were always winning polls.
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>>23655851
I am sexually attracted to Lacus, you got me there.
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>>23655835
This alright?
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Why did they give the girls slut lips? I don't like how old it makes them look
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>>23655827
I say that SEED Destiny is a VERY morbid curiosity show, mainly to see how bad shit gets when a production of such scope goes wrong, even the remastered version shows the cracks. There is the compilation movies too if you are pressed for time, and I say they are 'better' than the SEED movies because they don't feel crammed or had important moments left out, but uh, paradoxically that is not a praise towards Destiny, quite the contrary, shit was so shallow despite being a 4-cour show, at least after the first 10 episodes or so.

>>23655831
Well, this is Z, so being efficient all the time is not a big deal, All/Tri for fodder, Center for mini-bosses/bosses. Also congrats, you are certified not Duel because even the worry about how to play a SRW game is way above not talking about gameplay at all when asked.

>>23655851
>reason the Cosmic Era is so popular is because of the characters
Yes, while Gunpla sold relatively well on it's peak, Bamco was always frustrated on how the sales for character merch (little trinkets, image CDs and such) were always higher than the titular plastic model robots.
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>>23655851
>Shinn had two actors in the NYAV dub
Wow what the hell, how did nobody mention this during the dub discussion. All the talk was about Mu getting his Ocean VA back instead.
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>>23655852
Easy to see why.
>>23655856
They knew what they were doing when they gave Lacus her pilot suit.
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>>23655844
There's a jackass I know on another forum who thinks having watched the compilation movies of Seed and Destiny counts as having actually watched those shows.
And also that reading the manga version of Gundam X counts as watching the anime. He's really fucking stupid.
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>>23655859
And even then, isn't it mostly Kira, Athrun, and Shinn's suits that sell? Like wasn't the reason Dearka switched sides was to try and get people to buy Buster Gundams?
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>>23655008
What about Impulse Spec. 2? Unless it just becomes an attack for Destiny.
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>>23655869
That's a pretty stupid decision on his part. Especially regarding Gundam X.
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>>23655827
Its a mess. It actually starts out pretty good, with strong intro episodes. But tge cracks show up as it goes. Character writing for most returning characters is all over the place, like with Athrun getting the worst of it, and pretty much everything with the Neo Roanoke situation. Production had lots of issues and it has too many recaps because of things obviously being behind. Kira and Lacus loose all personality beyond being the designated hero, hence a big reason they got the reputation of being Mary Sues.

There is a lot of reasons people bashed it for years outside of Japan. Personally, I see it as more disappointing. There wasn't a terrible framework at its core, just bad execution. I always did like its characters like Shinn and felt he always deserved better.
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Just did the MJP final battle in Y, they tried to tie things a little bit with Godzilla and Getter Emperor but the Wulgaru really have no huge involvement in the main plot compared to the other factions. They are just sort of there.
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>>23655880
Yeah they honestly could have been swapped out with basically anything that includes a playable ship and involves space. Could have been G-Reco or Prince of Darkness again or something. They could have even slotted Buddy Complex in there if they felt they had to for some godforsaken reason. Was really disappointed that they didn't do more with the Wulgaru considering all the genes shit going on in Y between Ra Val and the Protoculture and such.
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>>23655876
>Character writing for most returning characters is all over the place, like with Athrun getting the worst of it
Athrun didn't have much of a defined character beyond his homosexuality for Kira. Destiny just made it worse by replacing his bland pilot boyfriends with girls who are all more interesting than him.
> Kira and Lacus loose all personality beyond being the designated hero, hence a big reason they got the reputation of being Mary Sues.
That already happened 20 episodes into Seed. Remember his total non-reaction to learning Cagalli was his sister?

From my perspective, Destiny's badness to me doesn't feel any different from Seed's initial fuckups. They're just the same issues but worse.
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>>23655892
Okay retard
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>>23655814
People have been accusing Fukuda/Morosawa of self inserting for years but I think she just likes to write one kind of plot. I recall Cyber Formula's OVAs sharing similar themes to SEED/Destiny in certain aspects.
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>>23655890
The weird thing is there is the basic idea they wanted to do something new with MJP in Y with the whole "are the Wulgaru awakening to Culture?" thing they hinted at in some of the earlier stages. Even Jiart at one point listens to Walkure and is surprised by how he may enjoy their songs
But nothing comes from it. You blow up the gate but Jiart survives only for him to reapper one last time a few stages later just to get blown up again. So the whole "Cultured Wulgaru" thing joins the "is Benerit selling weapons to terrorists?" subplot in being nothing more than a concept written on a piece of paper in the early planning of the game
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>>23655814
>>23655918
Morosawa and Fukuda have literally cosplayed as Lacus and Kira.

There is a reason people blamed her specifically for everything wrong with Destiny for years.
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>>23655748
>Shinn and Luna were never unpopular
Not what I said. What I'm saying is that gained a lot of fans by virtue of their VAs post series.
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>>23655927
That doesnt change what I said about Morosawa rehashing the same plot beats over and over again.
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I'll say this, the ironic Kira glazing vs Shinn scathing posts were always funny, doubly so when they got reused for Sei vs. Sekai
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>>23655922
Yeah I wish they had done something with that too, I just did the MJP finale the other day and found it pretty underwhelming how they handled that. I get that there probably isn't much to work with with regards to the Wulgaru but they could have done SOMETHING. It kind of just feels like it was an afterthought, just tossed in because the assets are relatively new or something
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>>23655935
>build up this subplot with Seed/MJP/Macross
>Nothing comes out of it
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>>23655941
I wonder if they're saving it for an expansion. I kind of hope so, it was an interesting plot thread until they just did nothing with it.
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If I'm being honest Y is the first game I wanted a proper sequel for in a long while. Not just a post-game expansion.
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>>23655927
>Morosawa and Fukuda have literally cosplayed as Lacus and Kira.
Pics?
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>>23655985
Its not particularly good but you can find them
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>>23655978
I dunno, given the stuff I want to see next game, I'd prefer a fresh start to build around them rather than this setting.
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>>23655978
I like the idea but I'm not really sure what they could do with it sequelwise. Maybe something out of left field like humanity from the conqueror timeline going to war with the present Shadow Mirrors style. With Valstork as the guest OG ship of course
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>>23656000
I think people mainly just expect stuff like Witch Season 2, SEED Freedom, Gridman Universe, and the second Macross Delta movie. Now what could they add that isn't a sequel?
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>>23655941
At least it wasn't like Z3.1's post credits scene.
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>>23656003
You forgot Geass Roze. Probably Gquuuux now too.

I'd prefer a separate thing. For example, you could tie Gridman Universe and Gquuuux together with Gridman and Lalah creating universes.
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>>23656003
I think Getter Devolution could fit, especially if they want to use Getter Emperor as a plot point again in some way. GQuuuuux is probably coming too but I'm expecting that to involve dimension shenanigans in some way. Hathaway wouldn't surprise me, though I guess you could argue it's a CCA sequel if you really wanted to.
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>>23656009
Might as well toss in Cross Ange too for Embryo shenanigans. Especially if Freedom is in.
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>>23656013
I think I remember someone suggesting Hathaway starting as an enemy who needs to be convinced to join by Quess.
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If GQX ever shows up, let's bring pic related as well.
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>>23656003
If you're not talking esclusively about debuts, they could do Voltes or Daimos with plot
Hathaway's Flash movie 1 is a possibility too
Getter Devolution would fit perfectly with Emperor
IBO, Nadesico, even Daitarn could work since Mars is not really touched upon in Y
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>>23656014
No reason to. And I personally don't want to see that again.

But since both Gquuuux and Gridman Universe have someone having created alternate universes, you can have them linked together, and use that to facilitate normal and alt UC crossing over. Maybe Dynazenon could even be from the Gquuuux side.

Geass Roze and Seed Freedom could be from the normal world with UC.
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>>23656016
That would be pretty cool, would be interesting to see what an aged-up Quess design would look like too (unless they just use her CCA design which kind of would not surprise me)
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Sentai Red Isekai next game. Please.
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>>23656023
I think it's been discussed before but I also thought of having one of the Mazingers (OVA/Shin/Infinity), Toei Jeeg, Gaiking, Rayearth, and Dancouga in the regular UC world and then Grendizer U, Shin Jeeg, LODM Gaiking, Rayearth OVA, and Dancouga Nova in the GQX world. Oh, and maybe Nightmare of Nunnally in the GQX world as well.
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>>23656030
Well, it hasn't shown up in DD yet, so maybe it's possible.
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What series from X-Omega or DD would you like to make a console debut in the next game?
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>>23656036
Oh, and I forgot Raideen and REIDEEN.
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Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about Bravern.

I know people were really into it when it aired, but I dropped it after the twist.
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If they did do a sequel, they could try to work ZZ in there.
>Haman never showed up in Y, could still be alive/Aura Roaded back and staying out of things like Master Asia was
>Yazan was in NOAHs Brand so his role in the ZZ plot could start after he left them
>Haman/Glemy could rise to power because some people aren't satisfied with Char playing nice with the Earthnoids
>Purus
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>>23656058
I mostly want it for voice actor jokes.
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>>23656042
Devilman, but I don't see how you can do it properly without stopping at Siren
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>>23656061
There is a lot of overlapping VAs in a lot of the stuff people are expecting.

Like Reina Ueda is Akane in Gradman and Sakuya in Geass.
Kenichi Suzumura (too many characters to list) the VA for Ash in Geass are both in Sentai Red Isekai.
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>>23656071
Both 30 and Y had a lot of VA overlap too, so I wouldn't be surprised if the next game takes this into consideration when picking the rooster. It probably helps a lot with voice acting
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>>23656030
Honestly, everyone talks about the mecha being a potential unit.

Y honestly just made a good case for Red himself being a unit. If Kamen Riders can fight, so can Sentai rangers.
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>>23655978
It won't happen but a 30 or so stage post game expansion for Y featuring Zettai Live, WfM S2 and Gridman Universe with no other new series would be so good
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>>23656099
>Gridman Universe in expansion
Not happening, too many units to add. Between Gridman, Gridman Universe, Akane, and potentially more.
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>>23656100
Yeah it would have to be a full expansion and priced accordingly not like they did with 30
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>>23656018
I honestly think Dark History Turn A should dare fight Mazinger ZERO and Getter Emperor, see what happens.
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>>23656108
Honestly if they don't have Turn A in the same game as Gqux it's a missed opportunity
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>>23656071
Yuma Uchida, which voices Hayate, Takuma and Onija in Y voices that new rival from Grendizer U
Mei Kamino was unvoiced in Y, but she is voiced by Yume Miyamoto (Rikka). She's also Hibiki Rio in Bravern
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>>23656085
They can easily have a mechanic where he can summon Kizuna Kaiser when he hits 130 morale
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>>23656115
If Zettai Live was in would we have gotten playable Max for quintuple Show Hayami?
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>>23656126
Throw in Orguss and Gravion as well
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>>23656071
>>23656115
Yuma Uchida is also the protagonist in Geass Lost Stories
Yuya Hirose who does Yuta in Gridman also does the new major character from that too, Souma. Funny coincidence (or not) that two protagonists from Geass are also in Gridman.
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I believe Suzumura, Ishida, and Suletta's actress were also in Mobseka.
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>>23652330
Didn't have a theme, that's just a few titles I gave 10/10s.
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>>23656108
Black History, you retard. Where the fuck did you get that wrong translation from?!
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>>23656172
All history is black history. George Droyd for SRW.
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https://youtu.be/RGNQisevBtU?si=7pJc4hKogmpX-1E_
>The game where Core Booster, Bluegar and Texas Mac are considered to be among the best
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>>23656100
not really, gridman and gridman universe would be a transformation like kaiser gridknight so they count as one unit, you could even add alexis if you want as a second, even though it would barely have a moveset its totally doable
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>>23656188
Upgrades count as separate units, hence why Getter Noir and Dagarn has both listed separately to reach the 5 (Five) (Go) (Cinco) unit total of Jeeg, both Getter Noir and Dagarns.

So Gridman, Universe and fusion is 3 units
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>>23656165
>10/10s
>Gquuuux
>Roze
>Final Wars
so youre just a retard
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>>23656222
like you are one to talk, drool
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>>23656209
okay then all you need for Gridman Universe are Gridman and Kaiser, Universe would just be the final attack of Kaiser, the movie has no story and 3 fights, its easier to adapt it as an expansion
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>>23656243
They are not skipping Akane, shes too popular.
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>>23656244
You just need her as a supporter
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>>23656243
Universe is not going to be in the Expansion and it is going to be in the next SRW.
Its that simple. Too much that they'd need to include to be just DLC.
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>>23656247
universe has less content than Zettai Live, its literally the easiest to include
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>>23656003
Gundam X is long overdue a return
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>>23656246
You're retarded if you really believe that, and I doubt you do.
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>>23656251
not really, Alexis literally does nothing in the movie, he has no attacks
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>>23656253
Oh, so you didn't watch it

Or are you just Duel seething that its gonna be in the next game?
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>>23656042
Zegapain personally. I think you could fun with Zegapain, Devolution and weirdly enough, Big O.

Do the post apocalypse angle but only few know about it, etc. I just want Zega in a console game.
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>>23656253
They made the Kaiju Club playable and they could have easily just not have them recruitable at all, not even as supporters
The Akane shilling is simply too strong. There is no chance Akane isn't playable in some way and Alexis is a convenient way to have her be a unit
The princess will be the supporter in Universe. And Anosillus if they don't want to add the battleship
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>>23656268
>And Anosillus if they don't want to add the battleship
They might make her playable just to let Rikka count as the pilot.
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>>23656268
Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll bring them back for Universe since Relive is a SRW original. They do have a scene in the movie, after all.
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The discussion about the expansion/sequel to Y always goes the same way
If it actually happens (and so far we're still at the "If" part) it will 100% be something more compared to the way 30 did it. It won't be limited to 5/10 units, it will have more than 20/30 stages, it could even be released as a standalone title or be a separate campaign accessed from Y's main menu (with support for a Y clear file to keep levels or upgrades like T), and it will mostly be something made to fill the blanks for the 35th anniversary (and gain more time for the next title, kinda like what Tales is doing). And obviously all this will allow Bamco to ask for 40 bucks (or more) for it

>>23656275
Regardless of when Universe debuts, I'm fully expecting Gridman and Dynazenon to be in the series list as unit only specifically to cover cases like Relive (or any attack/form which isn't used in the movie). And maybe to reuse other Kaijus as enemy mooks
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>>23656281
If there is an Expansion will there also be more guest OGs?
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>>23656265
it has less than 5 minutes of screen time dude, what are you talking about
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>>23656281
>>23656286
I think the Y expansion, if it happens, will be for WFM season 2, MJP and Macross with maybe a couple brand new to the game additions to really sell it, buth those additional wouldn't have more than or or 2 units.

They told us up front how many additional things we were getting, so they have to be up front about the exact number of new units and assists. With the first three, they can get away with a small number to add so they can also add something brand new. And the fact that some like MJP had stuff obviously held back, they had to assume they were doing an expansion.
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Doing the Dynazenon finale after the Godzilla one seems silly.
>slightly stronger than average kaiju
>wooooooaaaaahhh guys it's just like the god of ruin wooooaaaahhhh
I get why they'd do it the way they did for other reasons but still
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>>23656298
>with maybe a couple brand new to the game additions to really sell it, buth those additional wouldn't have more than or or 2 units.
I for one welcome Hathaway movie 1 and Beltorchika's Children
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>>23656293
Even taking your bad arguments, why would that stop them if they want to include her? (They do)
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>>23656307
bad argument at face value, I meant
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>>23656293
You really are Duel seething, aren't you
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Remember when SRW basically complained about how useless the protagonist's mech was that they got a brand new created for them that completely replaced the original in the source?

But there is no way they won't make Akane playable guys. Totally impossible.
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>>23656323
I remember someone bitching that the Gekkoei only existed to put Lelouch and C.C. in a cockpit together for shipping reasons.
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>>23656307
nobody is saying they cant, just that Gridman Universe is the easiest inclusion in a theoretical Expansion Pass, it has almost no story, barely 3 fights and half the important units are already in the game
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>>23656326
I mean, thats not really untrue. The manga version even makes the Gekkoei Sui part of the ending scene between them with Lelouch going after C.C. in it.
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>>23656323
Super Robot Wars would never make a character with such a limited moveset playable. She's not even a robot so even suggesting it is dumb. We have to draw the line somewhere after all :^)
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>>23656328
And the ones that aren't are the ones they can skip, at minimum 4 units between all of the Gridman forms and Akane.

Would not be the first time, or last time, for SRW to stretch out a movie plot over the course of a whole game. Its easier to just wait until the next game so they can include everything they want/can finish without having to worry about the hard limit of how many units they can include in a DLC pack. Because they still have other series too, and WFM, Macross and MJP are more likely.
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>>23656332
And we all know, its impossible to repurpose other assets, no matter the character. So even though some of the work is already done in 30, those Alexis assets are one offs.
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I wonder if Boss Borot fans are still pissed about being sidelined again.
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>>23656339
I will never not be
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>>23656338
Anon, I hope you aren't seriously accusing the Super Robot Wars dev team of reusing assets. That's a serious charge, and I think we all would have noticed if they were doing that.
>>23656339
The one I know IRL is furious
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>>23656341
>>23656339
>>23656344
More important than Boss Borot.
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>>23656344
Methuss is the Morrigan of Super Robot Wars.
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>>23656345
He was even madder about that because I like Macross and he doesn't. He just likes using goofy characters and I can respect it.
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You know, everyone talks about Freedom, Roze, Gridman, Gquuuuuux, and a couple others.

But everyone keeps forgetting they still haven't finished Rebuild of Eva in SRW and its always missing in most predictions people keep making for next game, and it feels conspicuously absent in Y. Not that I want it. I really hate the second half of that series
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>>23656339
The age of fatso will return someday
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>>23656333
no, gridman can easily be 2 forms, unless you want Universe to be a 2-attack unit
Universe is shorter and easier to include than all 3 shows you mentioned
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The Expansion Pack will feature the return of Virtual-On. Get Ready.
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>>23656356
Universe is the upgrade, and its the one that fuses with Dynazenon, so they need to do it.

>They won't do that
They made the fucking different colored one from the first episode even though its one half of a stage, they'll put regular and universe Gridman in as playable.
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>>23656361
Unless they space out the big fight of movie pretty heavily you'd probably get Gridman Universe at the same time as Rogue Kaiser Gridman. It happens pretty much immediately after they get Gridman back for real.
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>>23656361
>Universe is the upgrade, and its the one that fuses with Dynazenon, so they need to do it.
not really, you can just do Kaiser, unless you wanna just redo all of Gridman's normal attacks, it can easily be just the finisher for the final punch
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>>23656381
>Unless they space out the big fight of movie
Wouldn't be the first time for SRW and won't be the last.

And its easy to include it, it does enough fighting one its own first, could even reuse some of regular Gridman's animations. Because they make a bit of him and Alexis tag-teaming so that the team can pilot Dynazenon again (Though this can happen earlier in the story anyway)
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>>23656384
>unless you wanna just redo all of Gridman's normal attacks
That would be inconceivable
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>>23656386
I could see them doing the movie fight as a midgame climax depending on the other shows around
Its either that or you just don't get any of the new shit until really lategame
Or maybe they keep MC Hammer Pants and his infinite flying turtle spam around longer to justify dripfeeding upgrades
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>>23656390
that was just a recolor man, having both base gridman and universe would be pointless because universe only has 1 really new move without kaiser
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>>23656397
All I want is at least one part of one of the plot stages to have Yomogi take control of the grunts and you use it for a bit until the next story beat.

>>23656400
Yeah? And? Would not be the first time in SRW and world not be the last.

Because its not likely that they will do away with Dynazenon completely as a unit and only have the fusion available. So Gridman is gonna need the form for if you don't fuse and want to keep them separate.
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>>23656384
>You can just do Kaiser

That means you lose out on a lot of stuff. The whole point of Rouge Kaiser Gridman is that it quite literally is them pulling a new idea out of their ass because of how Mad Origin's connection with Gridman works. It's only because Akane's there that the idea even works.
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I'm just convinced it Duel seething about Gridman
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I want Layzner back
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>>23656250
Absolutely agree but I think it’s best kept for a proper showing in a new game like what G Gundam got in Y, and Wing to a lesser extent.
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>>23656422
>The whole point of Rouge Kaiser Gridman is that it quite literally is them pulling a new idea out of their ass because of how Mad Origin's connection with Gridman works
none of this means anything for gameplay purposes, grow up
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>>23655607
At least Natsu was in PxZ2.
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This may be a Random Question, but which Mazinger unit is stronger?

Original Alpha Mazinkaiser or Mazinger Z Infinity version without Lisa?
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>>23656542
You don't play the games, Duel
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>>23656568
Relative to the game's powerlevel? Alpha Kaiser.
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>>23656568
Mazinkaiser is nutty in all the Alpha games, I don't think Infinity Z was anything special in either T or 30
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>>23656593
That is the expected answer.

I am making a fan srw game using Infinity and I want to give a upgrade to Infinity Shiro.

And I was hoping the OG Mazinkaiser would fit as a upgrade for Shiro, without overshadowing Kouji and Mazinger Z.
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>>23655880
>They are just sort of there.
Watch them and the fact that they've already been used as a source of old arcane knowledge before in the main game plot, become the lynch-pin wildcard in the inevitable expansion pack.
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>>23655922
>Cultured Wulgaru.
MFW "Uncle Jiart" gets introduced to the Earthian cultural aspect of taking the male proginy on a hunting trip to bond with them...
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>>23656386
>>23656299
I'd imagine it'd be handled like Mazinger Infinity rather than Code Geass Ressurrection, with them really spreading out what in the movie is a single battle into various minor battles throughout the game, with the actual pushed to near end-game.

That said, I don't see them doing Gridman Universe as an expansion/sequel to Y at all. It 100% will be left to the next real game. Y messes with the parts of Dynazenon's plot that aren't very important to Dynazenon, but connect directly with Universe. Like, unlike the city in 30, the characters in Dynazenon here are just part of the real world. And what caused the anomaly that Gridknight was investigating was Godzille and Getter Emperor, it's not a world within Gridman and tied to the movie villain. A bunch of returning characters and (two versions of them in some cases) are in universe because they're Gridman's creations in the first place and they're blending together. The plot all spins around the worlds being Gridman's creation.
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Did 30 and Y really need to be 150+ hours slog fests? I feel like im taking crazy pills here with being one of the few people disliking Y
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>>23656703
30 and Y are both too long but Y doesn't feel like as much of a death march at least
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>>23656703
IF you only do main story and nothing else then Y is like 40 hours
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>>23650371
The next OG protagonist will just be Siegfried from Soul Calibur piloting a mech with no particular reason other than the fact that he is a Bamco property
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>>23656877
What about Pac-Man? He already has his own mech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtMBAoxs74
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>>23656877
>Post 4 Siegfried OG protag
>Get transported to the SRW universe after destroying Soul Edge
>His unconscious body get picked up by EFA or any Super Robot group out there
>Fall onto the cockpit of a Super Robot Prototype that "coincidentally" use a Direct Motion Link system and have a huge Zweihander after some alien attack his base
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>>23656892
Pacman feels more like a Super OP ally who only available for 2-3 endgame stages
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>>23656904
Only if Post 4 Sophitia is the female protag and she stays in her default outfit
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Was W the last time Kaiser and Shin Getter had a combo that wasn't FDS?
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>>23656703
Y is only a slog if you want it to be
30 is only a slog
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>>23656999
Part of me is curious how long 30 would be if you just did the mandatory missions and didn't touch anything else.
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>>23657012
problaby still something like 70 hours, that game is egregiously long, also retardedly easy, not a good combo
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>>23657012
>>23657022
30 has ~60 mandatory missions iirc
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But how will they find an excuse to give us Dynazenon Relive again if Universe is in the next game
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>>23657089
The Kaiju Club is in the movie as a cameo, else they can just use Dynazenon as a units-only series like Macross TV is on Y.
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>>23657089
its not gonna be in the next game
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>>23657094
I'm kind of expecting them to go units only with either Dynazenon or Gridman anyway to maybe pad out the enemy roster and let them stretch things a bit by having kaiju show up before the plot proper or something.
>>23657097
But Mujina's thighs
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>>23657089
Alexis can probably recreate them from Gridman or they reincarnated with the Princess in Tsutsujidai. They even had a cameo in the movie already.
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>>23657105
>But Mujina's thighs
who cares
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>>23657109
Your seething isn't keeping Grudman stuff out, Duel
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>>23657118
im gonna laugh my ass off once it gets announced in the Expansion Pass, that movie does not have enough material for a full debut, it'd be easier to include it in DD
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>>23657165
So as opposed to...literally every other movie to ever get into SRW? You think this one is unique compared to, say Nadesico Prince of Darkness for example?

>it'd be easier to include it in DD
Who wants to tell him?
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>>23657175
>say Nadesico Prince of Darkness for example?
Nadesico had more units
>Who wants to tell him?
as a full debut, not just an event
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>>23657181
>Nadesico had more units
lol
lmao

>as a full debut, not just an event
So like Getter Arc. Next mainline game it is.
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>>23657189
you can keep coping it would still be true
>So like Getter Arc. Next mainline game it is.
getter gets getter privileges, this is gridman
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>>23657202
>this is gridman
Yeah, a popular series that people enjoy and they like to use.
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>>23657208
if you think gridman is on the same level as Getter or Gundam or Macross youre just delusional
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>>23657237
Gridman is a currently popular modern IP,. For some, its a bigger draw than older things. And Tsuburaya already showed they like to work with SRW.

SRW will have newer things in it too, and if you think otherwise you're delusional.
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>>23657240
It's also pretty popular in west as well so now that SRW is international it's a good draw
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I'm halfway through chapter 7 and I haven't heard a peep from the DLC characters. They didn't even have pre battle dialogue against Godzilla
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>>23657249
I think the characters in it are fun and can have good story snd crossover interactions and I'd enjoy using both Gridman and Dynazenon, so I'm looking forward to Universe getting a proper debut next game. Its probably one of the stuff I'm really hoping to see next game.
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>>23657240
its not more popular than any of the other stuff I mentioned, gridfags can die delusional
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>>23655931
True
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>>23655931
>ironic
It was the truth, and still is.
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>>23657262
>>23657265
Still makes me laugh to this day
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Athrun is far worse than Shinn and Kira
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>>23657270
yeah but this is just true so its not as funny
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>>23657259
Getter isn't that popular with younger audiences. Its not big anymore because it has barely had presence to them. Its a series for older fans at this point

And when did the bar of "you have to be more popular than Gundam to get into SRW" start existing according to you? By your idiocy, a lot of stuff could never get into SRW but they regularly do.
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>>23657265
>>23657270
>>23657271
You could probably take the horse one, and make it a Kira vs Athrun in how Shinn turned out under each.
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>>23657254
When they first attack some of the Ch 7 bosses they'll have one of those bullshit meaningless anime arguments wherein they criticize the villain for being an asshole and then the villain tells them that they're retarded if they don't understand his personal world-view. Godzilla's a bit of an exception to this rule since he can't talk.

Other than that they're basically not even there. It's a damn shame because one of the few things 30 did right was having the DLC characters participate in conversations in the main story missions from the base game.
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>>23656561
They actually redeemed her there too, she was great, especially considering she was the only Namco ninja out of the many that there were in PxZ2. Shame that was the last attention she got
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>>23657281
Yeah the actual DLC missions and those extra on board missions were great but then they turn into the VTX characters during the main story.
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>>23657281
>It's a damn shame because one of the few things 30 did right was having the DLC characters participate in conversations in the main story missions from the base game.
no they fucking didnt, I wont stand for this rewriting of history, besides one or two comments the IBO cast says fucking NOTHING for the campaign, I had them since the beginning and regularly forgot they where part of the story because I didnt know they where DLC since I just bought a bundle
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>>23657295
The Sakura Taisen cast and the Ultramanlets get a big scene during the mission where Nova hijacks the Dreisstrager
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>>23657302
did they? I forgot they where even in the game, what did they do
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>>23657305
They help fight off the monsters, I want to say they both get a unique group shot CG but I think it might of been used elsewhere
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>>23657305
Beat the shit out of the people trying to take over the doomboat from the inside.
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>>23657309
>I want to say they both get a unique group shot CG
theres no way this is true, I would remember it
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>>23657302
>>23657305
>>23657309
I remember that too, Masaki and Sanger joined in as well.
But there was no CG involved or anything, they just added to a scene that already involved many other characters beating down monsters without their mechs available.
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>>23657295
I haven't played this game in about 3 years but i swear i remember the tekkadan kiddos, Cyber-buttsecks-whatever-force from Dancouga, and the various OGs from other games chiming in fairly often in main-story missions from the base-game. it was nothing that had a substantial impact on the plot but it was nice knowing they were canonically present and interacting with the rest of dreikreuz instead of just being "bonus" characters who make it extremely obvious that they don't belong.

In Y the DLC characters remind me of SDGGXR wherein i had a dozen dudes from other series but the dialogue was all written as if nobody who wasn't present in the actual anime episodes is there. Maybe Y is a little better in that regard because at least they bitch out some of the late-game bosses and the OG characters get some closure with their respective final-bosses in the caruleum vaull missions but it's not significantly better than SDGG.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8tebbwFV7w
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>>23656703
I found 30 to be a Slog, but I didn't feel like a Slog, at least compared to 30.

>>23655978
I honestly think there is room in the setting for them to continue. Will Force for example could be fleshed out, and given unique units. I'm Okay if we never see RaVal again though.

>>23656003
Honestly quite a bit. The whole part with infernal alliance and ancient civilizations opens up a door to quite a few super robot shows, the fact that the galaxy is being explored and there are human like civilizations out there opens the door for things like Gunbuser, Votoms, GunXSword, etc. The Time travel future can work in Crossbones, Gundam X, etc. You could even argue there is room for fantasy series like x did, but the Fantasy elements seem mostly locked to Byston Well.

>>23656100
Yeah. The gridman stuff is one of the few things we knew in advance was showing up in SRW before the games were announced, With the deal they have worked out where the Dev's can make new units for SRW, it seems far more likely to being held for a new game and not a DLC. Seems odd to argue that they wouldn't make a playable alexis, when the created a whole new unit that didn't even show up in Dynazenon TV just the the games.
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>>23657437
Surprisingly well done. For AI slop.
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>>23656561
>>23657288
I loved her in that game and how she was so different from the other ninjas. Shame she'll never appear again since the series got rebooted and who knows if they'll ever make a new Soul Calibur game.
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>>23657279
Isn't there one about Athrun feeding Shinn nothing but punch?
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>>23657408
>I haven't played this game in about 3 years but i swear i remember the tekkadan kiddos, Cyber-buttsecks-whatever-force from Dancouga, and the various OGs from other games chiming in fairly often in main-story missions from the base-game
no, I replayed they game very recently and besides some quick dialogue cut-ins they dont even make a peep in base game missions, only in DLC stuff, McGillis doesnt even interact with Char is a travesty
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>>23657276
For someone who doesn't play SRW he sure loves playing gatekeeper. Like according to him Magic Knight Rayearth doesn't deserve to be in SRW but Zombie Land Saga does.
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>>23657484
>Honestly quite a bit. The whole part with infernal alliance and ancient civilizations opens up a door to quite a few super robot shows

Something that other anons pointed out is how the game twists itself in every possible way to never talk about the 2nd half Combattler villains, which means they could have an Y sequel do the opposite thing to what Y did: Combattler gets plot with Raideen as support, and since Combattler aliens come from space it could be linked to any other alien invader from SR shows (like the Vega empire)
Also they could reuse the Emperor of Darkness sprite from V and do an "original sequel" to the Mazinkaiser movie and have him behind some other invading force since the Great General is dead
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>>23657494
>McGillis doesnt even interact with Char is a travesty
Maybe not in the main game missions but I'm positive Mcgillis talks with Lelouch and Char after you recruit him
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>>23657408
SDGGXR doesn't have a crossover plot like SRW. It's just a straight retelling of all the shows, the units you can bring to each level is treated as non canon.
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>>23657591
And a majority of the G Generation games are like that except for the WonderSwan, GBA, and DS games.
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>>23657497
Never could understand that attitude. Every series with a giant robot deserves to be in SRW, if a show doesn't end up in SRW, it's due to other factors like licensing. A bad show appearing in SRW doesn't make SRW worse, and in many cases, the bad show doesn't seem so bad after appearing in SRW.

>>23657549
That would be cool.
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>>23657662
It's comparable to Smash Bros. fans who lose their shit whenever anyone who isn't Waluigi or Geno gets added to the game, especially if they're a Fire Emblem character.
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I see a lot of japanese players running this loadout on Kamille, I wonder why they throw away blocking for prevail.
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>>23657497
>>23657662
See, I can understand not wanting things you hate in SRW because you just don't want to deal with them. There are ones in Y I don't like, some people hate Wataru focus in X, experiencing Cross Ange again sucked, etc.
But he doesn't even play the games. He just whines and whines. So him making a big deal about whether Gridman is in SRW, whether Universe is Y DLC or next game, what can be in, etc. is just fucking bizarre to me and how much he tries to convince people of his delusion ls because it doesn't affect him.
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>>23657686
Who IS the Fire Emblem of SRW? Gundam is more the Mario, while Mazinger and Getter are more like the Kirby and Metroid.
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>>23657819
Would Macross Frontier during the 2010's count?
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>>23657788
>But he doesn't even play the games. He just whines and whines. So him making a big deal about whether Gridman is in SRW, whether Universe is Y DLC or next game, what can be in, etc. is just fucking bizarre to me and how much he tries to convince people of his delusion ls because it doesn't affect him.

That's actually the part that surprises me the most. All right, he hates Gridman, he hates G-Witch, he hates Rayearth. Fine. but why does he insist on getting mad by interacting with this series?
Does he think the higher-ups at Bamco give a shit about some guy on an english speaking anonymous message board?
Did he really think that G-Witch missing DD meant it would never ever get into SRW? And same for Gqux?
How can anyone think Universe could in any way skip a future console game after Gridman and Dynazenon debuted in 30 and Y?
Why does he insist on getting mad by hoping for things that obviously won't happen? Like it's worse than Smash Bros fans because hoping, no, convincing themselves a series will never ever appear, or return, or how it ruined SRW, will just make him more and more mad with every new game. Like it's time to accept this: G-Witch S2, Hathaway's Flash movie version, Gqux, Geass Roze, Zettai Live, the last Evengelion Rebuild, Gridman Universe, FMP Invisible Victory, whatever that Rayearth remake ends up being. Each one of these is a sequel/is connected to something that already appeared in SRW and/or has a history of appearing in the series, and so it will 100% appear in a future game. Could be DD, could be mainline, could be DLC. Denying this will just make him more mad when it happens
It's like that guy on /v/ that kept going on for years about "actually Kojima was never fired and Death Stranding is the real MGS5" or something. At least it seems that guy finally moved on
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>>23657788
>>23657834
>tfw you will never duel Duel
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>>23657877
>kills 14 people
>hasn't even read their poetry
Typical Ariostofag
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>>23657916
No, he was clearly a Dantefag
t. only read Ariosto
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>>23657927
M8 those are fighting words, I'll see your ass for pistols at dawn
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Will we ever get show-accurate Wing where Heero barely pilots his own Gundam?
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I was wondering about OCR patches last thread that wouldn't require messing with game files, and apparently there is software that automatically maps where the text should appear with simple -screen size -horizontal -vertical parameters. Namely GameSentenceMiner, GSM.
I dunno if it actually saves this anywhere, but adding support for that (and for reading it later) should be fairly simple. All one would have to do then is running that through a sufficiently good LLM (newest claude) with appropriate instructions and google search enabled, then distribute the file.

Feels silly that people even bother with the entire text extraction and hex bullshit with stuff like this around.
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>>23657942
The closest is Alpha 1 where he never pilots the TV Wing Zero due to the EW units showing up before he could.
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Random thing I noticed is that even you have premium sound the BGM for Hayate's overboost attack is set as the instrumental version of Walkure wa Uragiranai instead of the vocal
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>>23657952
Ideally I'd prefer film-accurate EW where he blows it up in its introduction stage and it takes a secret to save it
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>>23657958
Maybe a bug or oversight?
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>>23658018
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>>23657958
Maybe the attack defaults to the normal song instead of the premium version by mistake
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>>23655294
>>23655664
I hope we meet again in the sea of stars, Aniki.
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>>23657929
as the challenged party, the right to choose weapons is mine, and I choose slegehammers at high tide
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>>23655149
Yes but actually no. Often "black" things in anime are actually very dark shades of other colors because pure black comes off as a bit flat (for lack of a better word). In Shinn's case his hair is *technically* purple.
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so, like every other male who is neither homosexual nor obsessed with last-decade culture-war BS, I picked the gyaru as my main.

What would have been different if i went with the k-pop stan instead? Do they switch roles so that forte is way too by-the-book and cross is the coolest onii-san ever? Mid-way through when Forte does not murder echika would it change so that Cross does not murder echika and then Forte berates him for disobeying orders and challenges him to a duel? Or is Cross still a massive bitch despite also representing the player?
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>>23657929
>>23658098
But I'm the challenged party, I'll destroy you both with my bear hands



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