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Rate Agendream's aestheics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVpPHuag9gACase 38.
>>23900044Low effort kitbash out of 10.
Post your farewell words to Three and Five.
>>23900064Five was a homie and deserved to be the secondary instead of Nox.Three was a nothing burger of a villain and just existed as a scapegoat for all the other human villains.
>>23900044Agent dream. And it looks good.
>>23900044It's the best you could hope for a fusion of the show's various designs into one form. I still wish it didn't have the coattails though.>>23900114The name's literally spelled Agendream/エージェンドリーム without a separation.
>>23900064good riddance
>>23900044I like it a lot. It's gonna be even cooler in action
>>23900064Good riddance and no chance for 3 to become a secret final boss. It will be Sieg.
>>23900147It'll actually be the order gore nightmare that is inside catastrophe gore.
>>23900044The only good Zeztz suitThe color scheme is very rich and vibrant, and does give off this vibe of "good dreams", I fucking LOVE the bubble pattern especially, and the rainbow effect does a lot for me as well. The gold parts are the worst part of the suit not because of the color but the design of the parts feel a little random, which is kind of my problem with Zeztz suits in general, there is no true direction that sparks any sort of inspiration for me personally, they all just look like toku heroes with technicalogicalelements and ugly marvel under suit patterns. This suit, with the bubbles and rainbow aesethic, at least reminds me of dreams.
>>23900044As far as summer movie forms it's really good lookingBut nothing beats Burakawani
>>23900196Burakawani just looks like he makes curry with his hands
>>23900196hmm, I really like Wing Form and 001.
>>23900122>It's the best you could hope for a fusion of the show's various designs into one formWhere are the Dawn elements though?
>>23900147Sieg is just a pawn for his Gore Nightmare, he's getting his ass kicked again next week.
>>23900127>>23900147t. Noxfags
>>23900217You really don't understand the concept of secret final boss, do you?>>23900219Fuck off, I clearly like Amano Kousei.
>>23900215Watch him bust out twin Breakam Zeztzers in the film.
>>23900223>You really don't understand the concept of secret final boss, do you?It's already been implied that Punish has been the one manipulating Sieg all along and that the latter wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for Punish's influence. Phantom also popped up out of nowhere to reveal she was the one behind Nem's birth as well as The Lady's never-mentioned-before secret benefactor. The Gore Nightmares ARE the secret final bosses.
>>23900064I have no feelings about their departure just like I had no feelings for them when they were in the show
>>23900223>Amano KouseiAmano Kousei is cool but Sieg sucks ass. I don't see you or anyone claiming they're big fans of Libra just because Kousei plays him either.
>>23899945But Nem already has a dad. What, you don't remember him? Well, neither does the show.
>>23900064Three should've stayed as the final antagonist, Nightmares are lame as fuck
>>23900219kwab
>>23900312There's nothing more pathetic than being the fan of Reiwa's worst Secondary and shitting on characters that are actually likeable.
>>23900156>>23900147It will be Nightmare NEM, I saw it in my own premonitory dream.
>>23900324Oblivion Gore is probably Nem's Nightmare.
>>23900044Feels like Revice and Gotchard form had a child that Zeztz used>>23900064I liked 5 more then 3 but they're both fine actors. 5 getting unceremoniously carbombed and 3 getting Dunder Mifflin'd were both amusing ways for them to go, especially with how brushed under the rug it all felt because we have new villains for Q4.
>>23900139says who?
>>23900044hibiki-esque
>>23900312Did this guy even transform again?
>>23900044Only noticed the bubble textures now thanks to anon. Why can't they just make those a staple for all the designs for the show? Like a clear indication it's about dreams. Instead of trying to purely soft reboot the ichigo design.
>>23900411Only in the stageshow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg8FfWQ_OZM
>>23900044Honestly looks like a version of Live if Live was actually designed well. For a kitbash it's honestly a really impressive and good looking form. It honestly could've passed for another Rider too.
>>23900417Because yanaka is retarded
>>23900417>>23900454Give it a rest already.
>>23900458Why did you quote the first anon he's not a shitposter?
>Nox's capsems are going up in price after final form debutNever change japanese tokuota community.
>>23900417Nothing about random liquid screams dream motif. The Lords have it because of their sci fi-ass aesthetics.
>>23900364>bad writing isn't bad, it's "amusing"Why are they like this?
>>23900496Who's "they" anon? The people in your head?
>>23900500You and your boyfriend whom you're defending.
>>23900064Five was a pretty wasted character, but he was little less wasted than Six. I don't feel like Three was wasted (unless the next villains end up being worse than him), but he definitely could've had more fights and the conclusion to his arc as the main villain felt rushed.
>>23900512and your favorite show sucked ass
>>23900548Definitely not as much as yours, ZZZfag.
>>23900494Yes, you are uneducated, we know.
>>23900044Looks like it belongs in Saber so automatic 0/10.Nailed it with Exdream and then completely shat the bed with this one. Fantastic.
>>23900554
What do (you) think about NoxoN as a song: https://youtu.be/lg8FfWQ_OZM
>>23900568The more I see the suit the more it just doesn't look goodCatastrom may unironically be the only good suit in the show
>>23900041>>23900044Fucking chest sash. They really should make the chest mold have a concave like Drive's
>>23900568Pretty good honestly. Maybe my favorite insert.
>>23900574My-th will use the same type of driver too.
>>23900579Though this time the Zodiac Driver or whatever it's called can be worn sash-wise or belt-wise.
>>23900568>>23900573probably the capsem's orange and the type of blue clashing....and also the middle light black lol
>>23900579fuark. Surely its not as thick...
>>23900588The leaks make it seem as if it will be thick but leakers haven't really commented on its girthMy-Th is the only Rider that wears the belt on his chest, everyone else wears it on their waist and there's one Rider with another waist belt
>>23900568It's great. The J-Metal style took me off guard, but it really works. It was absolutely criminal how this was cut short in the show for the BGM during Nox's finisher, even as much as I liked that track.
I want Nox to make more of those noises his powers sometimes do, like those BUWAAAOH or KIRAAAA noises
>>23900328>>23900324It's really annoying that they never explored the idea of an agent becoming their own nightmare, rather than merging with a pre-existing one like Sieg did
>>23900568Way better than the shitty rap inserts, but I don't think metal really fits Nox's character.
>>23900559There was no need to doxx yourself like this.
>>23900556That's bubbling liquid like the one in the Lords' fluid tanks and shoulderpads, it's not some anime-esque sleepy snot bubble.
>>23900044Toothpaste lookin ass
I’m glad Nox avenged 5 and 6’s deaths.
>>23900044I get that it's dream themed, but it just looks elegantly generic.
>>23900649He was just mad he didn't get to do it first this time.
>>23900573It makes him look weirdly top heavy and not in a bulky muscular way like Catastrom. It doesn't help that his suit actor has bird legs and the stupid Air Jordans he's wearing both make his feet look huge and his legs look even skinnier.
Still the undisputed best secondary final form in Reiwa.
>>23900798Couldn't have been given to a more deserving guy as well
Honestly the only really shit Reiwa secondary final forms so far are Evility Live and Twilight Majade. The rest are at worst passable.
Kobayashi was at Amazons’ 10th anniversary event
>>23900883Maybe the anniversary movie that had a fake logo can actually happen eventually
>>23900897Their fake subtitle is just the English version of Agito's so they're the most likely not getting made.
>>23900652Generic looking suits are par for the course with Zeztz.
Which one was worse: Amazons or Black Sun?
>>23900973Black Sun, Amazons at least has several cool fight scenes and some likeable characters.
>>23900649Like he ever mourned them in the first place.
>>23900973Black Sun was a fucking snooze fest. The first season of Amazons is at least decent. It's the movie that's the real shitshow there.
>>23900630It matches his hotheaded behavior instead of the aloof act he puts on.Also I just realized the irony that Nasuka acts largely the same and has a heavy metal ringtone.
>>23900973BS easily.
>>23900991What hotheaded behavior? He's impulsive sometimes but his overall demeanor isn't hotheaded, he even remained cool and composed during his final fight against Three. Someone like Five is hotheaded, even Baku is more hotheaded than Nox.
>>23900973I like both
>>23900973Black Sun no contest, Amazons is never straight up badFirst season is great, second season is slightly above average and the movie finale is averageI guess Black Sun isn't really bad either but goddamn that ending is easily one of the franchise's worst, the cast also isn't as likeable as Amazons'
>>23901036>second season is slightly above averageNo.
>>23900973Black Sun, but we only got that one due to the success of Amazon, so I blame it for everything. That being said, at least Amazon had cool fights. The plot was garbage, but if you just want mindless gore and violence, it delivers. Black Sun can't even do that.
>>23900973Amazons > The First > Black Sun > The Next
I do a watch along with my friends every week and I've been thinking of showing my friends a Kamen Rider series. Out of all the shows from Kuuga to Gaim which do you guys think has the most coherent story? I feel a lot of my favorite shows from that period fall apart in the final act.
>>23901102Eh? Depends on what you mean.Like, something that people not into toku and not used to things like Inoue weirdness would want to watch? Probably, like, Ryuki.
>>23901102I want to say Kuuga and W are the most coherent aside from their finales, maybe Fourze and Gaim too?
>>23901040To this day I will never understand what the fuck they were doing with The Next. The only redeeming thing about it is the suit designs.
>>23901120Ryuki's central plot is kinda hard to understand and there are things about it that are still confusing to this day.
>>23901102Kuuga has the most coherent story.
>>23901120Ryuki is a strong answer personally I'd want to show them Faiz or Kabuto but those kinda shit the bed at the end weirdness isn't really a disqualifier they're a bunch of nerds they should be able to handle it.>>23901128I was thinking W but I kinda wanted to hold off on heisei phase 2 as a a later followup I want them to experience a slightly less kiddy show as their introduction.
https://x.com/tamayurq_/status/2063230422331617592
https://x.com/TARO_KOBAYASHI/status/2063830212635443553?s=20
https://x.com/GavvToei/status/2063915048238764462
>>23901222The Amazons EDs were all bangers, Die Set Down probably my favourite. Eat Kill All close second.
>>23901143Ryuki's plot issues are really just badly explained plot devices that sustain the main premise. You pretty much need to accept Kanzaki Shiro -needed- the Rider battle to be a somewhat fair and lengthy competition and had limited control on who ended with the decks even if the show didn't justify those points well.
anyone make a webm of Midnight Shadow's rider kick yet?I didn't see a thread on /wsg/
>>23901286It makes for a sort of interesting plot point though. Apparently in every timeline, no matter what Kanzaki does, Shinji ends up with the Ryuki deck and throws just enough of a wrench into things to delay the battle just long enough for Kanzaki's plan to fail.
>>23901286I'm talking about things like the existence of Mirror humans, Kanzaki's ghost, how Shiro and Yui ended up in the Mirror World as children and seemingly created the Mirror Monsters, the whole deal with the time loops, how the Rider War's "wish" actually works and so on. Some of that stuff is hard to understand without outside sources explaining what the deal with them is, and some are outright mysteries to this day.There are too many vague details in the plot for it to be one of the most "coherent" stories. Ryuki is carried by its characters, feelings and messages rather than the coherence of its setting.
>>23901354Is it Nova Blade, Blades or Blaze? I've seen all 3 on different sources.To me, it sounds like Blaze, but it's engrish so who knows
Are glowniggers really this evil irl?
Tsukasa...?!
>>23901424The official English subs say it's Blades, it can't be Blade due to the way it's written in katakana.
>>23901433This reminds me...>Premium Beroba>Since 15-year-old Namiki was playing the pre-transformation role, there was a request to keep it from being too erotic. [ 201 ] https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%AE%E9%9D%A2%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AE%E3%83%BC%E3%83%84
>>23901448I mean that's pretty sensible desuDon't want a repeat of Mezool I guess
>>23901433she's below the height of consent you sick fuck
>>23901358Except that one time he ended up with the Knight deck
>>23901435Calling a kick Blades is weird, but it's not like Blaze works either
>>23901450All I know is that they made a hentai of human Mezool and Gamel
>>23900798This is how you avenge the dead.
>>23901566Wow that's fucked up since Gamel has the mentality of a child
>>23900883Who's the woman at the bottom?
>>23901583sailor moon/wasp amazon
>>23901569And the fact that human Mezool is like 13 at the time, the context is also weird. You know the episode where Mezool and Gamel fuses into CGI monster and OOO use Gatakiriba to defeat it? The sex scene takes place during that fight.As in, while OOO fights them they're having sex.
>>23900798>Still the undisputed best secondary final formNo. Saber belts are unironically worse than Zeztz crossbody belts.Best secondary final form is Bujin Sword, especially if you want to go the undisputed route considering its popularity.>but it's a kitbashYeah and it looks great.
Mezool?
>>23901604mezool_pog
>>23901594Agree. it's a kitbash that somehow elevates it. Kinda like how Kamen Rider Brain is a good kitbash.
>>23901594Glass house, throw stones, blah blah.
>>23901610That looks cool. Heavy and sagging a bit maybe, but it's at least completely flush with the belt while also using all the slots. It doesn't have a giant well of a gap made by a flimsy bulky piece of plastic block that has no sense of ergonomics with an inefficiently designed belt that doesn't make the most out of its allocated slots.
>>23901613Speaking of flimsy, is Frappe Custom really as flimsy as it looks? Every time Hanto puts it on the belt, it looks like it's gonna topple over and the top part is not secured to the bottom part at all.
>>23901142I'm honestly shocked the evaluation of both The First and the Next has actually gotten worse with the passage of time.
>>23901615but enough about ex-aid
>>23901615but enough about geats
>>23901432Yes but also more competent.
>>23901624How do you know they aren't equally as incompetent but get away with it since there's no irl Zeztz equivalent to challenge them?
>>23901647Izu is hands down the best Reiwa heroine.
>>23901594>Bujin Trashbagcape>bestNah.
>>23900044Looks like it belongs in Saber so automatic 10/10.Nailed it with Exdream and then completely improved upon it with this one. Fantastic.
>>23900558>>23901656Same person
>>23901655You keep making that comparison after all these years so I guess you never once got your eyes checked within that time.
>who say CODE started from 0 to 7?>CODE Minus AgentSigh...
>>23901688They're adding Nem and the cops as Agents 12, 14 and 16?
What's the deal with those Gacha games chasing Kamen Rider's clout ever since HSR?
>>23901703The people that make gacha games being fans of toku doesn't surprise me
>>23901703that's nikke btw
>>23901686It looks like a cheap trashbag, you're the one who pretends otherwise. Nevermind that many of the "bolts" on the suit are completely flat because they're just painted on as a result of it being a cheap kitbash. Same with the "vents" on the ears.
>>23901615The tokusatsu fandom wasn't as big in 2006/7 as it is now and people are far more critical of the media they consume than they used to be.
Nozomi Takai's actress showed up in a commercial: https://x.com/miyahara_kanon/status/2064302113455591783Also Lachesis' actress will be in a fashion show: https://x.com/wwschannel/status/2055949194217545877
>>23901711what are you talking about? people were shitting it back then too
Lemon guy hint, try to guess
>>23901784
>>23901784>ankhDual protagonists confirmed >>23901787there's no crab in chinese zodiac..or even a fucking shrimp
>>23901750I wouldn't say shitting on them just mostly disappointed in the plot of both movies but gave them a pass because of the suits, nowadays nobody even does that much
>>23901591Okay. That doesn't make any sense. The reason why Mezool became the big CGI monster known as the Mega Greeed because Dr. Maki chucked a SUV load of Cell Medals plus two of Uva(Green)'s Core Medals at her, and that includes the core medals that Gamel owned as he was in his complete form.
is zeztz bad?
>>23901806No, it's just a polarizing above average show like every Reiwa show except Revice which is bad and Gotchard which is average
>>23901784>>23901787how is this supposed to be interpreted>>23901806it's divisive
>>23901707It looks like a trashbag if you have severe cataracts maybe and are trying to force a comparison. And it still mogs the fursuit with a shittily attached plastic excuse of a "book" that looks like it will snap off any moment.
I'm surprised the summer movie Zi-O riders haven't been retooled yet
>>23901655it doesn't look like a trashbag, this does >>23901818, you're blind >>23901815>implying an armor with a mane is a fursuit >implying that a cheap retool that barely looks like a samurai is worse than a fully original cohesive suityou're also blind
is Sieg half black?
>>23901818I mean one of them is already a retool from Amazons the other one has a suit that deteriorates easilyI feel like they'll avoid retooling Barukusu since he's the final Heisei summer movie villain
>>23901824he's clearly white wdym? and the other sieg is a third hawaiian that isn't really black, are you ok anon?
>>23901822A belt can make or break a suit and all is the belts in Saber fucking suck.>implying that a cheap retool that barely looks like a samurai is worse than a fully original cohesive suitYour minor spelling mistake is implying I'm right, thanks.And sometimes, it doesn't take that much to look great, as evidenced by Bujin Sword. The "cheap kitbash" is greater than the sum of its parts. Being an easy and cheap way to reuse parts doesn't diminish it, it just means they always had further potential to really look amazing and Bujin fully unlocks it.
>>23900044actual shitty Warcraft mage armor
>>23900041>>23900044It's weird that 2 movie forms are more armored than any of the Zeztz suits that aren't OrdreamI wonder if that's intentional or if that's due to them being retools>>23901624I was going to say no because that time they pretended to be vampires, but then I remembered that actually worked so you're right
>>23901810Animal zodiac. Number 1, 3, 4 and 5 is obviously bullfrog, butterfly, eagle and Orca. Only number 2 and 6 is still a bit confusing.
>>23901853>bullfrog, butterfly, eagle and OrcaBut when it comes to the remaining zodiac animals without pairs to what fables do these even belong to? I'm confused
>>23901448But picrel is hot
>>23901875For KR standards, monster suits can get much hotter than this.
>>23901703Honestly it seems like especially on a global scale there's an increasing interest in toku as the fandom gets bigger but also as people who don't like toku but are into stuff like anime gain more awareness of just how influential it was on Japanese culture.The sort of "passive 'fan' who doesn't actually engage with the franchise." For influencers there's clout in recognizing the references even if the person doesn't watch the shows. I imagine that this is even worse for toku, there are "fans" of these Shonen manga adpatations who don't even watch 1-2 cours of anime, you think they're watching a full year-long toku series?As for the gacha game makers, they just like to steal shit.
>>23901875Gavv Job......
>>23901796Either produce a season 2 or bring the manga outside of Japan holy shit
>>23901806Worse, it's boring
