Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: Blood curses!ITT: An early writing progress check-in, A completed Nightmare, Trying to not write Chrysalis as a self-insert, Fics you'd be be willing to rec to normalfags, Anon discusses DoWaS and FS at length, Catching a whiff of ad hominem, Equestria's got no single mothers, Raping to correct horrible opinions, Catching major foreshadowing early on, The inherent homosexuality of man's primordial songs, Desiring long but also good Luna romance fics, Anon gets outta the slammer and shares his story, Blaming your saviors, Popping back into the popular section, Fo:E but good, The sorry state of clopfics, Wholesomely fetishistic stories, Anon only wants to write what he wants to write, Only the classy ought to survive, Painting virgin manuscripts with your creative essence, "nooo I won't be the next kkat :(", Replacing true communication with copypastas, and not being able to expect reading comprehension from people!>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe eighty-fourth book is 'Equestria 485,000':https://www.fimfiction.net/story/385770If (You) want to participate, read the entire story by the 1st.On Sunday we'll discuss what we've read.>Recommended stories:Tired of authors inserting their fetishes out of nowhere? Fed up with blueball endings? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fSetting a story in motion - https://youtu.be/ufO8LbwTdu0Taking criticism - https://youtu.be/-v4R2ZcxPlA>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.pngThe Royal Canterlot Library's Top 16 Fanfics - https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/Previous Thread: >>41658476
First for best duo!Enjoy some conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/366784/heavy-metal
Just a little over a month left in the year, Anon.You are going to meet your writing goals, right?
>>41681310https://youtu.be/Hwz7YN1AQmQ
>>41681310I've already written nearly a third of my total library in just this year, and didn't notice until today. I've written around 28,000 words so far, with 103,798 in total, not counting the corpse. I've still got so much writing I need to do this year.
Take the wholesome pill /fimfic/
>>41681423Is it wholesome if I put ponies in harsh conditions and force them through terrifying challenges, but the power of love and friendship still manages to carry them to victory?
>>41681497Only if everyone lives.
Hello, /fimfic/. A while back an anon (>>41077522) brought up the denizens of Rus /mlp/ drawing a picture in commemoration of their 100th thread. I've been thinking about this for a while and finally committed to filling out more of the very barebones sketch I've had for months now. I've only got like 5 fic references in so far, though, and surely need more.
>>41681212>mom Luna ficKnow of any good ones? I don't mind if it's incomplete, as long as what's posted so far is worth reading
>>41681507Not enough Shining's Isekai.Also, a can of Tuna somewhere.
>>41681507Let's see. Make Rarity pregnant. Draw a man covered in runes hanging from a treetop. Put a stitched-together corpse somewhere in the background. I'll think of more later.
>>41681509I liked Nights Favored Child, but that's about it. So many get too edgy. If you know any others, I'm down.
>>41681509The Twipie one I'm writing.
For the one person who cares, I'm not dead, it's just that last week was genuinely insufferable. Also I totally forgot where I was going with the plot, so if I have one piece of advice for anyone, don't take breaks.>>41581369https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgpXZxgEOKoe7jA41CVfM_-2D8aBn8Blnc9hOmDpJ2c/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.697obfea2sz5
>>41681546Oh wow, has it been that long?This is a reinterpretation or rewrite of Equestria Girls: Friendship Games. It was something that I had posted a general rough draft of in the Fingerbang thread about the following question: Why was Principal Cinch in charge of Crystal Prep Academy, and not Sombra? It obviously didn't take off over there since Sombra has very little bara artwork and Fingerbang only cares about BOOBA, which is fine. That's their domain, and I'm the visitor.I've been giving it thought, and I want to believe that I can make a better story that more appropriately follows the themes that EQG tried to present, thanks to the benefit of hindsight and no time constraints nor producer intervention. However, I am also aware that many writers believe they can make better stories without having the skill to do so, and as far as Fimfiction is concerned, I'm just another wannabe. So, here we are.tl;dr this is an unfinished EQG story, so if you're pro-hooves, please ignore it
>>41681310My only firm goal was "write 4 fics". Collab + Jinglemas makes two, so all I have to do is get two oneshots out on top of that, and I'm golden.
>>41681556I believe in you, Anon.
>>41681310No, I didn't win a Pulitzer this year, either. I don't think they consider horsewords.
>>41681310I wrote a shitty horror story.Updated my longfic (twice!).Helped with the corpse.Planned out a sequel for a fic and wrote three chapters of it.Plus Jinglemas.Not my best, but certainly one of my best years ever.
>>41681294I don't get OP pic.
>>41681310I finished my first long fic so my goals are met.
How long is a fic before it becomes a longfic
>>41681635It's an edit:>>41663706>>41664751
>>41681664I think 100k is a good cutoff point for many.
>>41681635Just the preggot shoving his commission in everyone's face. I wish a certain someone would finally get to working on mine, so I could do the same.
anons complain that current day fimfic is full of hie oneshots HOWEVER... when I search for them all I find is humanized, anthro, gay, shipping, and ptfg trash. I wish I was finding good 2nd person romance.
>>4168166450k
>>41681689>hie>good
>>41681743look you can have you dumb ship stories and ptfg slop without getting mad at me for loving ponies.
>>41681747>ship storiesTrashy wish fulfillment in the same vein as mashing Ken's featureless crotch against Barbie's bakelite buttocks.>ptfg slopStill HiE, but with even more self-pity.
>>41681423A good pill to hawk.
>>41681509I went on an adventure because I remember one was referenced from this fic, https://www.fimfiction.net/story/489964/celestia-reginaInitially, I could not believe that it was https://www.fimfiction.net/story/438770/lunas-daughters because that story doesn't seem good. It took a while to re-find Celestia Regina, which is an excellent Celestia fic, by the way, and unfortunately that was the correct fic that was referenced.Skimming it, it doesn't seem very good. Mostly edge about Luna lamenting the lost time and the two daughters meeting untimely, if heroic ends. The sequel to that fic, the one about the navy, is probably a lot better.The last time this was brought up, I recommended >>41551127 https://www.fimfiction.net/story/316104/tantabus-mk-ii which is a dreamwalking showcase fic.Of course, neither of them are about Luna being a mom, but rather about her daughters. Who aren't Twilight.
>>41681747>unicorn twifags actually WANT to see their wife get all wrinkly and grosswhy?
>>41681760Aging gracefully is nice.
>>41681771Yeah, but not aging would still be better. Not having to worry about your joints stiffening, skin stretching, valves clogging, just living as one does forever after.
>>41681771Yes.
>>41681805>can't appreciate bothPhilistine.
>>41681816By the way, that story Spark mentioned in >>41663551 has a nice Tuna scene with Luna and her abacus.And this one >>41490079 has an entirely different abacus.
>>41681830>tunaI don't care.
>>41681310I don't set goals since that's only setting me up for disappointment and discouragement. Saying that, the last two years have been the most productive for me in a decade.>>41681507>someone getting their brain uploaded to a computer while two BPs argue about it in the background>Daring Do wearing a radiation hazmat suit>a missing person's poster for the original version of The Archetypist>Littlepip and Blackjack arm wrestling over a cartoon nuke>the Hand of Doom stuffing a ballot box>Nyx looking smug with a first place medal around her neck>>41681614>didn't win a PulitzerYou'll have to write a PiE fic about Twilight trying to hide in a small Midwestern farm town after botching a spell, then.>>41681664100k's the demarcation line for me.
>>41681507a bag of 'Hand of Doom' votes hiding somewhere
>>41681756tuah
>>41681507>"Read FiMC" carved on one of the trees>some sort of SI reference >Lemon Dreams hanging upside-down from a branch>a mentally unwell red horse trying to warn ponies around a storm>Celestia holding the orb that makes its holder an idiot >Twilight in a witch hat>the Weather Factory visible in the distance >Cupcakes somewhere >Twilight playing chess>whoever makes up the main ship dynamic in Winning Pony>the main AAG oc observing the fucked up 3D shipping graph>a book on lost cities>Lyra in a hoodie driving a cart>Sassaflash and the Ponyville mule>NMM cultists
>>41681507Add in Luna smoking and saying "I'm not a fuckup I swear."
>>41681509I went through the lot of them, and they're either>incomplete or really edgy>just not very good>not really centric and has something like "Luna had kids in the past" I liked Night's Favored Child just because it's kind of funny that it's basically Game of Thrones Intrigue Bullshit but Twilight is a little kid and doesn't give a shit about any of that and just plows through court nonsense. But it's also unfinished, and always will be.
The heck's it mean to get scouted by Equestria Daily
>>41682675Not much these days.Back in the day it meant whatever was featured would have thousands of people focusing on what you made.
>>41681507___
>>41682693Fair enough.
>>41682341>>Celestia holding the orb that makes its holder an idiotholy shit I forgot about that
>>41681507>Luna having a DID episode>Put a spider on or next to the wasp pony>A book titled COPEing with alien languages>A group of fillies throwing books at each other with a recommended reading list in the middle>Filly Chrysalis telling ponies not to read the epilogue
>>41682341>Celestia holding the orb that makes its holder an idiotI can't tell if this is just a generic reference or Sunset Reset specifically.
>>41682820In "Besides the Will of Evil" Celestia makes an explicit reference to the idiot ball explaining why she was such a fuck up in that story.
>>41682849Huh, Sunset Reset has Celestia possess an orb of foolishness that I can only assume explains why she and everyone else acts like a complete moron throughout the story.
>>41682820>>41682849I'm surprised you didn't know, it's a pretty famous thing at least ITT. From chapter 28:>“I am an idiot!” Celestia threw up her front leg. “I am an absolute idiot. I may as well have been holding an orb, a magical orb that makes its holder into an idiot- and I may as well have been holding it for sixteen hundred years!”
>>41682879>Sunset ResetAt first I was gonna say isn't that the Sunset fic that was written before EqG was released, but no, that's Sunset of Time.Is Sunset Reset the one with the dumb highschool drama and a love triangle that gets resolved by Cadance inventing threesomes?
>>41682904Yes. As bad as the story is I thought Cadance and Sunset were super cute together
>>41681423Take the scootapill
>>41682943Sorry, busy taking the other, much more sinister pegafilly pill.
>>41682952>peg-a-fillyehehe
>>41682907>spoilerThey were to bad the actual relationship plot went in circles with no real payoff. I should get around to reading First Hoof Account sometime now that's its finished.
Proofreading done and I'm busy tomorrow. Might post later today instead.
>>41682675Usually it means that your story is slop that appeals to the lowest common denominator. If your story is actually good, you have to submit it to them. In my experience there’s even odds that they’ll ignore you. If they don’t ignore you, they’ll ask for pedantic grammar and formatting changes, some of which may be wrong. Then your story will get featured on their site and you’ll get about twenty views.
My newest story focuses a lot on my fetishes, but also on things that fetishes but aren't my fetishes, and I do hope people won't get the wrong impression and think I'm into something I'm not.
>>41683130That sounds like your story wasn't actually good.
>coloured dialogueguys, the secreter fic for the week has already gotten me spooked.
>>41683255I haven't read it yet but regardless of your stance on it that is faithful to the source material.
>>41683255There is nothing wrong with letter black ponies speak.
>>41683186Based on other feedback I’ve gotten, my stories are fine. The problem is that EqD thinks they’re as influential as they used to be when in reality they’re slowly dying. Nowadays they’re just a link aggregator, and they provide hardly any value to the fandom.
>>40594432Hard to believe it's been almost a year already.
>>41683680A sequel to Dangerous Business should've been about Twilight, Pinkie, and Fluttershy going on their own adventure instead of what we got.
What's the best possible time to release a fic within the next 18 hours?
>>41682943>thumbnail looked like scoots was getting her ass sniffedDarn.
>>41683782It's already too late today.Maybe someone has better data, but if I were you, I'd aim for tomorrow late afternoon EU time (to catch US as well), so 16-18h from now. Posting during the peak hours should make the bin easier to reach, I guess, since I doubt that the algorithm accounts for hourly site activity changes.
>>41683684I will one day write that story.
>>41683820>writing fanfics based on fanficscareful, that's a never-ending autism spiral.
>>41683823No, I just meant a Twilight, Pinkie, and Fluttershy adventure fic.My bad. I've had a cold all week. My brain's not all there.
>>41683782Normally I’d say about 18 hours after your post, but tomorrow is when America has Thanksgiving. If I were you I’d wait until next week. Unless it’s Thanksgiving themed.
>>41683823But I already did that.
>>41684022That doesn't invalidate what that anon said.
>>41684095I guess.
>>41683141>I'm into something I'm notIf it's not a commission or a parody, that will always be the assumption and it will always be correct. There are no reasons to put a fetish in your story you don't have unless you're being paid to or are mocking it.
>>41684339
>>41684339But I'm not into feet, I'm just into loli.
>>41683684>tfw we don't live in the timeline where Cloudy wrote a 550K Twinkie fic (and Applejack is there too)
>>41681294New writter here. I've had many ideas for fanfics and stories. The link to eznguide really makes me understand writting better. Lots of things learnt in school makes sense after all these years later.The only fanfic I've read was the ever popular Fallout Equestria. I just want to know, how popular are fanfics these days, within the fandom and generally?That's all I wanted to say, I might be in this thread more often. Good day.
>>41684639>New writterOff to a good start. Jokes aside, they're definitely not as popular as they used to be, but you can still confortably get views in the hundreds, thousands if you're lucky. Welcome aboard.
>>41684668fics for this feel?
>>41684562We never got that Eyes on You sequel about Rainbow Dash and never will...
How does it feel to know the most successful movie currently in theaters is fanfiction?
>/FSSBC/The club is back on Saturday for this week.
>>41684639Comparatively, I have not seen a single fanfic reach any kind of notoriety in the fandom in recent years, let alone anything like widespread recognition such as Past Sins, FO:E, MLD, Cupcakes, etc. All the things that have made a splash recently are art or animation-based (couple notable artists people talk about, infection AUs, Tamers). Besides that, it is as if nothing exists outside of the first few years of the fandom. Even getting fanart unprompted is not something i've seen happen except for Rekindled Embers, but you have to go digging in their discord to see most of it. Basically if you want a big audience or to write to add your ideas to the greater fandom it literally is not happening and cannot happen anymore unless proven otherwise by some big amazing story. Just do it for fun.
>>41684639"How popular" doesn't have a single precise answer. The way I see it, it's like this: It's easy, even as a new writer without much experience and no followers, to get a few hundred views on just about any story. With some practice, it's not hard to get in the mid-hundreds of views and reach the feature box. It's hard to go beyond that unless you have something else in your favor. For example, maybe you're established and already have followers. Maybe you're writing something popular; that includes shipping, HiE, and porn, but it also includes good slice-of-life comedy. If you have something like that in your favor, you can reach one or even two thousand views. Much beyond that and I think it's either luck or very precise audience targeting. There are still stories that reach the high thousands of views. It's still possible to surpass 10k views, but just barely; most of the stories that do are porn.
Paul liked my story enough to say he'd recommend it to fans of Celestia this is a great day
Last chance to sign up for Jinglemas if you haven't done so already!
>>41684639You're writing horsewords, accept that you're in a niche and be happy if you get attention.
Fics I can read together with my 9 year old daughter?
>>41685661https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819
>>41685661Shining's Isekai
>>41685661Anything by Skywriter.
>>41685661It wasn't something I paid special attention to, but I think A Bug on a Stick could should be fine.
>>41685661reading rainbow
>>41685661Many Blueshift fics have a fable like quality to them if you don't mind the concept of death being a thing. Cake Story and Life is a Lemon come to mind. For something by a different writer, The One Who Got Away should work too.
>>41685730>The One Who Got AwayI think this will always be one of my top favorite dislikes from the club along with piano man
>>41685730Blueshift is weird and it's not just about death. Unlike the others listed, his fics sometimes go way over the (seemingly?) intended content rating out of nowhere. Star in Yellow comes to mind as a particularly striking example of this. And LiaL is great but I don't think a 9-year-old would get much out of it.>>41685742I would never think it's a story someone can strongly dislike, but in my experience, the minds behind the twilight flag always operate orthogonally to the reality.
>>41685776>I would never think it's a story someone can strongly dislikeThat's why it's one of my favorites, some lunaflag and I thought it was disgusting and no one else had any problems with it lmao
When did you realize canon characters were a crutch?
And here we go.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/567300/the-demon-childLoosely inspired by Jim Steinman lyrics, Bandy's She Slays, Ponyphonic songs, and a bunch of other stuff. It's been way too long since I posted something. Almost a year. It felt good to get back into things, even if it was >no hooves and I know how the thread feels about that. This is rather pretentious and artsy and even though I do have a concept of what's going on in it I'm not going to be bothered if people treat it like an excuse for me to play dress-up with Golly. Playing with dolls is part of the themes of the story after all. Hopefully someone will enjoy it, though. And hopefully I won't disappear for as much time after Jinglemas. Maybe I'll even write something not for a contest. Shilling over.
>>41685790Polygamy is based.
>>41685819>someone I know publishes a gollyfic>it's nohooves garbageIf I had a penny for each time that happened, I'd have twopence.
>>41682943>most popular story of mine is now a scootadopt oneshotWelp
>>41685906now think of how much more popular it'd have been if it was smut.
>>41685909I don't do that.
>>41685925and you consider obscurity a virtue?
>>41685931It's been doing numbers that I'm satisfied with.
Scammers are using chatGPT to read the story now too, fun.
>>41685829One day I'll write more with her hooved self. She does feature in Behemoth and will more prominently in the second entry, at least.
>>41686227Oh he's mad.
>>41684639You should really just enjoy writing creatively for it's own sake. You'll get some attention hopefully and enjoy what you get. On the bright side I find fimfics website way better than something like A03. Does anyone even know how to properly filter through the absolute mountain of garbage for that site? I feel like fimfic having likes/dislikes helps tremendously.
>>41686344I write because the things I want to read always end and I don't want anyone to suffer that.
>>41685829Cunny is a powerful, terrible drug.
>>41686351>anon only writes perennially incomplete fics
>>41686383No silly.I write completed versions of unfinished fics.
>>41686391So you're the ficwriter who stepped up.
>>41686399Someone has to, there needs to be at least one completed Twilight Is Luna's Daughter fic out there.
>>41686403Do they still fugg?
>>41686477Do you see a Luna flag on my posts?
>presumably got a spam message >presumably the bot was nuked before I could see it>stuck with a notification that I can't checkThose go away eventually right?
>>41686541just press "mark all as read".
>>41686541Just mark it as clear
Huh. When did B_25 nuke himself off the site?
>>41686599'round the same time he nuked himself off dicksword.I hope he didn't go follow that chick who died
Two anons on the sinbox. This calls for celebration.
>>41686882Which fics?
>>41686889Something On Your Back and The Demon Child, both of which were linked ITT, nonny.
>>41686898>Not about dash getting cum in her back
>>41686920Yes, yes, that exact joke was made when the story was first linked.
The new Avantasia album art looks good. On that topic, what are some of your favourite fic cover arts?
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62270/lunas-librarian-twilights-moonThis is a collection of some 25 Tuna oneshots of widely varying quality. Although they were not written “in order,” the chapters are arranged so as to show the best duo along early to late relationship stages, excepting “Monster.” Also, almost the entirety of it being as old as it is, these oneshots are saturated with LUS, a problem that is amplified by the small cast and repetition across chapters.I almost want to say that this fic should be [Comedy], given how many of the prompts were answered with comedy content. To its credit, it doesn’t try too hard to be funny, it usually doesn't rely on humor to carry scenes alone, so it does fine without being punished by unfunnyness. One particular exception is “All the World's a Stage” There are definitely a significant proportion of heavy-toned chapters, so [Comedy] could've been misleading in a different way.My favorites are:Between Sun and Moon – a wonderfully adorable rendition of the relationship of the two sisters in the form of a bedtime story, with a good punch at the endAbsence – although Luna personal lamentations is a thoroughly unoriginal story idea, this one is put together unusually well, making particularly good use of physical motion and scenery. It also has a good punch at the end.The Power Vested in Me – Twilight and Luna’s inner monologue of self doubts at the altar, just a good executionNames – just for trying to pack in some good pre-Nightmare worldbuilding into such a short oneshot.These in particular aren't worth even the short time to read them:Amethyst Throne & Insert Princess T into Slot S & Awkward – all bad prompts, made worse by bad executionYou Were There – Bad headcanon about “the stars will aid in her escape” and the nature of the Nightmare.Early Observances & All the World's a Stage – repetitive, unfunny humor.One thing that amused me in particular about this fic is it containing the second scene I've read across multiple stories in quick succession wherein Cadance is tasked by Celestia to put Twilight and Luna together, only for them to be such a natural pair that she doesn't do anything. I generally dislike oneshots, but I don't regret reading this fic. I wonder if this author could've pulled off a longfic with them. Probably not.
>>41686970Have some d'aww:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62270/20/lunas-librarian-twilights-moon/between-sun-and-moon
>>41686934https://derpibooru.org/images/145242 and https://derpibooru.org/images/2768146 for their representation of the storyhttps://derpibooru.org/images/1056130 and https://derpibooru.org/images/2938310 for being good artTWOLOT, for both: https://derpibooru.org/images/2751706 https://derpibooru.org/images/2751704
>>41684639>how popularFimfiction's probably one of the last main fandom locations left. EQD's a shell of its former self and Derpibooru fucked itself with the Nazi civil war a few years back. Fanfics are also generally one of the most popular forms of fan expression given how small of a barrier to entry there is.That being said, don't think there's much horse fame left. The reader base on Fimfic's maybe a tenth of what it was in the FO:E peak. If you want to write pony fics, you're doing it now because you enjoy writing and have a passion for them. If you want to write fanfics that became wildly popular and enter a fandom's zeitgeist, you'll want to hop on another fandom's bandwagon because this one's tapped out.>>41685819>it's not semen demon golly loli anonDamn. The wait continues.
>>41687284>>41684944>>41686344I'm a zoomer writer who joined the fandom in 2011+13. Rediscovering my long-dormant love for ponies has actually led me to discover writing as a hobby, which I'd never thought I would enjoy. I've also found that I actually have some skill at writing, which was really inconceivable before I tried writing pony fics. All this being said, I'm deeply saddened to find this nascent horsewords-writer in me when the fanfiction scene, and the fandom as a whole, seem to be constantly overshadowed by the "glory days". It's troubling not only because I feel 12 years late to the party, but also because I know that I was too young and not in the proper mental state to even engage with the fandom in its heyday. The only solace is that I'm here now and can see the full fruits of over a decade of writing. Can I raise a little naive optimism? The fandom must have retained many of its more passionate, talented people, and there's still plenty of attention for a franchise that hasn't gotten official content (and advertising) in 5 years. No, I don't count G5. The coping part of me thinks it's folly to compare the current state of things to the absurdly unique high the fandom had in the early 2010s, and that the state we're in is relatively healthy.
>>41687365Im in a similar situation where I find myself able to finally contribute after a decade of turbo-suicidal depression and now being old enough to have developed proper taste and life goals, so I want to make up for lost time and contribute to a fandom that really needs more good content to be made. That being said, I reserve my own thoughts on the state of this fandom and popularity. I am not demanding some new FO:E adjacent thing pop up in terms of sheer numbers, its just that it seems like NOTHING is popping up at all. I see multiple newer or older fandoms who made less of a sweeping impact on the world than our own, with smaller creative scenes, who are still making stuff that is being discussed and entering modern discourse. There is nothing like that I have seen in this fandom, it is as if people only care about what was made in 2011-2014, and everything else falls under the barrier of 'releases, nobody cares/ they care for a week to 1/10 of what people did before, people go back to talking about old stuff'. Surely there should be more celebration, even if there is less of us, instead of none at all?
>>41687482>Im in a similar situation where I find myself able to finally contribute after a decade of turbo-suicidal depression and now being old enough to have developed proper taste and life goals, so I want to make up for lost time and contribute to a fandom that really needs more good content to be made.No, no it can't be! I couldn't have! I don't remember making this post!
>>41687482Flawless Sparklemoom got songs and tons of fanart, like, two months ago. The fandom still definitely has trends and new things. Fics are just not really it for some reason.
>>41687589Simple most zoomers don't read long form text. If you want your story to blow up just make a video essay gassing it up first. Call it something like the "fanfic that revived the brony community" and give it one of those clickbait thumbnails. You'll be the next KKat in no time.
>>41687589Yeah thats a thing. Flawless was but a drop and lasted a week, but it was a sign there is SOME ENERGY there remaining. Infection AUs popped up but were also relegated to the terminally online flash in the pan sort of rule that everything must be subjected to nowadays seemingly. >Fics are just not really it for some reason.I really have noticed this. You just can't turn to fanfics for that sort of thing anymore as an option.>>41687601I was actually thinking about this in a similar sense. I think you could get away with a fic being the main body of your project, you just have to shore it up wth other content first like a series of images if you're a popular artist, an animatic, or some other forms of exterior content to direct people toward your thing. It might definitely still be possible.
had this idea come to mind looking at EQG Big Mac and how he's barely taller than Applejack, dude's just "Mac" and that got me to thinking about how his name is almost identical to Bright Mac, which I don't think is a kind of appleWhich is to say I think it'd be neat if that branch of the family tree had a tradition of naming all their kids "Macintosh", and then appending a personality trait that they display later on in life; like Bright Mac was smart or just really cleverthough I guess that kind of speaks poorly of our Mac if the best they got was "well shit he's pretty tall I guess"
>>41687589>Flawlessfartscat fetishist literal shitposts for zoomers with no attention span>>41687694>infection aus"I love these ponies, that's why I will completely butcher their looks and character" twitter nonsense
>>41687720Here's an idea: format your hard drive.
I'm writing.
>>41687723Show-off.
>>41687722But then I'd have to redownload all my stuff, and that's like an entire day.
>>41687720>MacintoshIt's McIntosh you illiterate fan of the fandom. Like the apple variety.
>>41687694>you just have to shore it up wth other content first like a series of images if you're a popular artist, an animatic, or some other forms of exterior content to direct people toward your thingSurely all the commissioned art Behemoth 2 will have will make it popular.
So, what's the fastest way to learn how to write Nyx? Asking for a friend.
>>41687824Step 1: Write Nightmare Moon in typical petulant child fashionStep 2: Make her a literal child
>>41687856>cunnyfy NMMI can do that.
>>41687865Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
>>41687482>>41687491I wasn't depressed, but I've always had low level of self-confidence about anything posted online so it was very easy to postpone starting to make content until I could get good at it. On top of being young and dumb, but you both should know that's just an excuse. Many of the big fandom content creators were teenagers when they started.That feeling of wanting to make up for lost time and contribute is very real, though.>as if people only care about what was made in 2011-2014On the other hand, every year that window into the "golden years" loses resolution as actual oldfags distance themselves from the fandom and some newfags find their way here. New blood is good, but new blood combined with our noistalgiafag focus means that every year the fandom collectively knows less and less.
>>41687824Twilight but baby, basically
>>41687865Don't do that.
>>41685677>>41685679Thanks, she's really liking it so far. Says it's "realistic."
>>41688234Bait used to be believable.
>>41688244It never was.
>>41688022>I've always had low level of self-confidence about anything posted online so it was very easy to postpone starting to make content until I could get good at itWhy not just create for yourself? Not everything you make has to be uploaded. I think you should create just for you. If you begin creating with the main intention of sharing something you haven't even finished yet, then you've already changed the result before you've even begun. You're no longer creating for you, you're creating because you want "success", whatever that is, and it's very detrimental to your creative process. But if you continue creating without getting views from others, then you'll know you're doing it because you actually want to.I've been writing for years and I do it all for me. Not for replies or attention, I do it because I like writing. Equestria is MY fantasy world. I'm not saying never upload, but creating just to have something cool to upload is the wrong reason to create.Create what you love, and you might create something others didn't know they were looking for.
>>41688460>Equestria is MY fantasy worldIt's mine, actually.
>>41688481Lying on the internet? Shame on you, Anonymous.
>>41687824>how to learn how to write x characterRead the fic that x character came from? Duh?
>>41688518>reading Past SinsI wouldn't wish that fate for anyone, no matter their past sins.
>>41688518You missed half the question.
>>41688518I thought was a given but I keep forgetting everyone here is autistic and has to have everything spelled out to them.
>>41688529If you want to write a fanfic based off a fanfic you best be prepared to read the fanfic. It's the way of the world.
>>41688532dont cater to lazy people
>>41688539You could unironically write your own NMM filly and it would still be better than how Nyx was depicted in Past Sins. Make her your own character like how Jan used Button Mash, the fic is over a decade old and nobody's read it in years.
>>41688550I read it.
>>41688552Recently? My condolences.
>>41688559I enjoyed it and made a fic based off it, I've gotten happy amounts of mileage.The weird one was the fanfic fanfic of the fanfic that was on AO3 that would always descend into weird shit like chapter 1 would be "Nyx is listening to music to loud" and then chapter 20 would be "The world is actually a spaceship build by precursors".I still enjoyed it. My life has been better since I started enjoying things.
>>41688570>lowers his standards so he can enjoy things.well okay, if that makes you happy. I guess if it works it works, otherwise we'd all direct vogelfag-tier criticism to everything and enjoy nothing.
>>41688578>Lower standardsWeird thing to be elitist over, it's horsewords.
>>41688591>t. RTT's target audience
>>41688578>>lowers his standards so he can enjoy things.This is indeed a bad idea, but there are some kinds of media that you're not meant to nitpick too hard. It all depends on what the thing you're reading/watching was attempting and if it succeeded at that. What little I remember of Past Sins and everything I've seen said about it in horsewords discourse makes me think it's just bad, though.>>41688591It's writing. And even Art, if you don't mind coming off as the kind of person who's pretentious enough to capitalize Words and Ideas in their sentences. The subject matter shouldn't mean you're holding yourself to a lower standard. The vast majority of "real" books is hot garbage, too.
No matter what it is you create, somebody will always love what you make, and somebody will always react with hate. So why not choose to create what you love and love what you create?
>>41688627Because you owe it yourself to do better than that. And also owe it to the characters you're writing about, if you're concerned with that.Even ignoring the fact that it's dumb to pretend that quality doesn't matter to your audience, there is one person who will always know if you did your best. It's fine to do poorly sometimes and you shouldn't dislike your work for being bad as long as you gave it your best shot.
>>41688614>there are some kinds of media that you're not meant to nitpick too hard. It all depends on what the thing you're reading/watching was attempting and if it succeeded at that.This is how I feel about GladIIator.
>>41688550Wasn't there a Friendship is Optimal contest, and the winner revealed he never read the original?
How did Pinkie Pie eat a whole elephant?
>>41688653Gladiator II Is inferior to Gladiator in every way
If one person, and only one person, claims my fic stretches their reading comprehension skills, and nobody else ever brings up the difficulty of reading my fic, am I justified in mocking that person’s illiteracy? Is it worse if I do it publicly?
>>41688680Yes, and it's also really fun.
Don't lose hope, anon. If Time II came out then the fanfic you're waiting for an update on can also get updated with a disappointing ending.
>>41688614I enjoyed it. Probably the only thing is Celestia basically kidnapping Nyx was kind of out of character I guess, which is what I avoided in my own fic.
Just finished this https://www.fimfiction.net/story/438585/sunken-horizons and I'm so fucking mad. I should have checked the fucking epilogue before I started reading. The story ends on a cliffhanger and not a single chapter of the 3rd book has been written in almost 2 FUCKING YEARS! I got blueballed so hard by this fic...
>>41688813lol. lmao, even.
>>41688638nta, but for me, to create what I love and to create to the best of my ability are identical. If a shitpost of mine ever got 10k views and thousands of likes, but which I didn't care much for at all, I would feel less satisfied than if I poured my soul into a passionate story that only ever got one like. >It's fine to do poorly sometimesIt's true! We can't all be Thomas Mann or Gustave Flaubert and produce a masterpiece on our first go.
>>41688638>Even ignoring the fact that it's dumb to pretend that quality doesn't matter to your audienceDon't you know who Tamers is?
>>41688813>I should have checked the fucking epilogue before I started reading.That's faggot talk. Only a prancing lala homoman would read ahead.You could've just asked. Everyone here knew Horizons is supposed to be a trilogy, which is why I haven't started it yet.
>>41688823Why would you not produce a shitpost if you weren't ultimately satisfied with it or the attention it gets?Speaking from personal experience I've had fame and fortune granted unto me because of a shitpost and I've ultimately rolled with it. It's cool.
>>41688837Sadly the author is too busy jerking off to guro on reddit.
>>41688840>Why would you not produce a shitpost if you weren't ultimately satisfied with itWell that's the thing; it's not like I never shitpost, but any fame that results from it wouldn't have the same the same personal impact as something I would write seriously, precisely because I wouldn't have pushed my ability and made something that reflects my own skill as a writer. This is also me drawing satisfaction from my own "development" as a writer and having *that* recognised, which is a sentiment I know not all anons here share.
>>41688829It's more complicated than that, but it's a separate discussion. It greatly depends on what you're creating and for whom. As a general rule, it's not a stretch to say that good content made well will be appreciated more than good content made poorly.In Tamers's case, both his insane productivity and his pre-existing /co/ fandom helped him rise to the top. I watched several of his pony videos, and while I agree that they're not "high quality" videos and really not my thing, he must've put the effort where it mattered for his audience.
>>41688860I find that my shitposts ultimately funnel people to my more serious content, even if they're more popular it's still enough of a springboard that I'm happy with any level of success for either.
>>41688868>my shitposts ultimately funnel people to my more serious contentThat's great! I just draw a stronger line between being motivated by idealising the effort I put into things and the simple joy of success and recognition.
>>41688837>Everyone here knewI didn't know shit, anon. After I finished reading EH, I looked at the word count of SH and thought "the author had definitely finished the story in 341k words". How fucking retarded of me. >Horizons is supposed to be a trilogyI suspect the trilogy will never be completed. Not a single chapter has been written in 2 years. It's over...>>41688845Is that true? It's pretty sad really, I liked the fic.
>>41688638>Because you owe it yourself to do better than that. And also owe it to the characters you're writing about, if you're concerned with that.>create what you loveWhy would anyone intentionally create garbage? Someone with no writing experience shouldn't hold themselves to insane standards. But if you really do your best every time, you should naturally grow sick of your lack of growth and do better. Only the most complacent autists haven't had improvements in quality in years.
>>41688920>Why would anyone intentionally create garbage?I dunno, the Behemoth exists.
>>41688916>Not a single chapter has been written in 2 years.Written, or published?Maybe Goldie has a stash and will drop it any day now.Just like Empress of Steel.
>>41688920>Only the most complacent autists haven't had improvements in quality in years.You don't have to insult autists by comparing us to RTT, anon.
>>41688920That is not the argument. I'm of the opinion that you should love what you create, but when "why not love what you create" is said in the general context of discussion about having standards, the implication is that it's fine to abandon standards and write garbage. Because people intentionally create garbage all the time, precisely by deciding that they don't want to improve. That's the thing to avoid.
>read fics almost exclusively in bed>fic gets so good that I want to give it my full attention and read it during the day>never make time to read fics during the day>fic is stuck half-read foreverI fucked up.
>>41688935>Because people intentionally create garbage all the time, precisely by deciding that they don't want to improveReally? I didn't know anyone could actually be this retarded and waste time like that. Probably because I'm lucky to have friends that care about making improvements.
>>41688940Just read, nigga.
>>41688926I was wrong, he wrote one chapter, that was almost a year ago though. See https://www.patreon.com/goldnwingI wouldn't get my hopes up.
>>41681507I'm starting to nitpick how I handle adding stuff way too much so here's what'll probably be the base for the final pic.
>>41689008Gold here. I actually have two chapters, and will not be publishing anything until I've finished the story precisely to prevent any more hiatuses. You're correct that I've really slacked off on writing, but that's a combination of several factors including enlisting, marriage, and applying to university. Don't worry, everyone on my server, and my wife, and several of my friends harass me regularly to finish the story, so it's gonna get done. Just don't hold your breath.
>>41688925You should read it.
>>41689166No.
>>41689209Why?
>>41689160>combination of several factors including enlisting, marriage, and applying to universityYou didn't have to dunk on me like that.
>>41689212I only read good fics.
>>41689227How can you know fics are good before reading them?
>>41689232Because if you're wanting me to read it, it's not a good fic.
>>41689160When you have kids a year or so from now, at least read them the story to sleep before they fully understand English.
>>41689234>every anon is the same
>>41689214There is one irrefutable truth you need to understand. It's nobody's fault but your own. Blame whoever you want, blame your personal situation, blame autism, I don't care. You need to try harder. Nothing you want to blame will change the fact that you're the only one who can ultimately put yourself back on track.If you don't want to take the steps to fix your life, don't be so surprised that it's in shambles. Take responsibility for who you are and do something about it.
>fic has practically disappeared from the front page>still climbing the sandboxThat's neat.
>>41689151I like it.I'm sure you could cram more references to stuff we've read in the clubs, but I think it's fun as it is.
>fic is going okay>suddenly drops the stupid "all ponies are polyamorous" herd headcanon thingOh for god's sake
I have made a decision.
>>41689160Dude, I really enjoyed your fics and now I'm going through withdrawal. I hope you're not taking my posts too seriously.>so it's gonna get doneThat's all I needed to hear, take as much time as you need.
>>41689338Don't do that.
>>41689393It's too late, and you all shall suffer the consequences.
>>41689401No I won't.
>>41689422Okay, you'll enjoy the consequences.
>>41681546>74 pages>21k words>None of the Humane 6 introduced (scarcely mentioned)>No formal Shadowbolts introduction.It's getting pretty fucking gloomy, and I know that it's your aim for SciTwi's arc, but I'm growing exhausted from these interactions that are FULL of tension and I'm nearing the limit to becoming frustrated — not saying that's necessarily bad (tension is very important), but I need some respite! Some contrast is needed sooner or later to bring out those darker darks and brighter brights, and harping on from >>41636071 that maybe it's time to bring in some less demented characters like the Shadowbolts, Spike, or Twilight Velvet and Night Light (as you've indirectly mentioned); hell, even more light-hearted dialogue with other alumni.Regardless, judging by the setup and development so far, you're around a quarter through the story, so I'll wait for you to cook up some more chapters and see how things'll play out before I get my pitchfork.With this latest chapter (8), I see an opportunity to split the story into a Shining and Cadance subplot to go behind the scenes and investigate SciTwi and Sombra — there you can expand into a romance and link back to the main plot concerning the crystal heart. The other side of the plot being a lone, cold SciTwi pushing through the Friendship Games as a Shadowbolt against the Humane 6, and as you seem to be keeping to Crystal Prep's perspective, it may be fun to reveal and view the Humane 6 initially as antagonists. From this chapter I also see Cadance as more stable and sensible which addresses a previous post's concern.Take the above with a pinch of salt, and hope you feel better, Anon.Where are the musical numbers, fucker?
>"I should read this fic for a bit before sleep">proceeds to spend 3.5 hours combing my hair instead I cannot fucking understate how much I need meds.
>>41689808Sounds like you need self-discipline.
>>41689838You think I did it because I enjoyed it?
>>41689842No, I think you did it because you lack self-discipline. Your enjoyment is a non-factor.
>>41689850NTA but you're a fucking moron.
>>41689850Well the paper I got after several weeks of testing says it's because my brain suffers from chemical imbalances and I need meds to fix it but you're free to keep thinking that. While you're at it you can go find someone in a wheelchair and tell them they need to try harder to walk.
>writing a scene when I stumble upon a sentence that I can't write how I want because I totally blank on the word I need>completely rework the sentence and word it differently so I can move on>Two paragraphs later, I remember the wordEeeeeeeeeeeuuuuugh
>>41689884You know you can just put a [placeholder] in there and come back later, right?
I think I've realised a fundamental problem with FiO is that it's based in the hanno reductivist pseudoscientific rhetoric that a human is merely a brain and everything else is a meat suit you're piloting around, when it's demonstrably true and proven that the body itself is a significant part of an individual's self both in perception and in being.
>>41689896>hannoI don't fucking know how autocorrect got that from annoying but that's what I get for phoneposting I guess.
>>41689808>3.5 hoursWon't that harm your hair?
>>41689890I did that once and ended up uploading a chapter with a placeholder because I am very dumb.>>41689898Hanno's reductionist rhetoric does sound like it could be a real thing and I will use it whenever I argue against someone from now on.
>jinglemas request is a redemption fic for a certain antagonist>the only reasonable way of redeeming said antagonist is to throw the requester's waifu under a busShould I?
>>41689935I'd say it's your moral duty to do so.
>tfw you spend forty minutes fixing the chronology because you had to shift the date of a major historical event by three yearsI'm starting to see the flaw in writing a lore-heavy biography. It's getting to that critical mass phase where everything's starting to weave together and it's a pain untangling one of the threads when it needs fixing.>>41687365>the state we're in is relatively healthyOh, it is. I was in a previous fandom who's "glory days" peaked in 1999. A decade later, there were two dozen fics posted a day and no one had ever been able to top the magnum opus fanfic written back in '95. Fimfic and MLP in general are orders of magnitude bigger now.But people still have that melancholy for days gone by. It's just human nature to look at the ruins and wish to back in time when they were new. We've been doing that for thousands of years.>>41688614>makes me think it's just bad, thoughI remember it being a perfectly fine story. Worst parts were Twilight being way too overprotective motherly and Celestia wigging out. There's better and worse fics out there. Like MLD, the fame seems to have overhyped the hate for it when it's really just an okay fic.>>41688813The second Goldy announced he was joined the military, I knew it was over. Didn't even bother finishing Sunken because the whole thing was going to be a deadfic .Nothing can kill a fanfic like the government owning the author.
>>41689981>who'swhose
>>41689316Okay but what kind?
>>41689896>a fundamental problem with FiOOne of many.>>41689935Elaborate.
>>41690066I can't say with certainty my Santee doesn't go on here, so I'll have to keep it vague.This isn't some "X did nothing wrong" thing, the reformee definitely has erred. However, said errors should not have been allowed to occur, and wouldn't have been if someone's waifu did her damn job.And no, it's not picrel.
>>41690086Don't be a faggot, just say it.
>>41690090Christ, fine. It's picrel.
>>41690095Ooh, yeah, that's tough. So is it Spitfire or Dash?
>>41690100The former. Dash was equal parts victim and accomplice in that ep. I'd have her act as an inside mare, helping her former rival seek justice.
>>41690095Is she the reformee, or the waifu?
>>41690115I'm starting to regret being vague. Swallowfire is his waifu, and the future antagonist of my fic.
>>41690119>expecting a bunch of spergs to pick up on social cuesYeah, I make that mistake sometimes, too.
>>41690119This guy's art is shit but the situation is hot enough to make up for it.
>>41689808Am I a schizo too if I do the same on the daily basis but usually stop myself after 15-30 minutes? Often while pacing in circles around the room like an autist.>>41689890I've gone 40k+ words into a draft with an antagonist named [Placeholder].Damn, I really need to finish that next year.
>>41689900I pulled a full sink's worth of loose and knotted hair out. Probably harmful, yes, but again I don't exactly have too much agency over these episodes.
>>41689981Did they have flattening fics in the Lion King fandom?
>>41690201>Often while pacing in circles around the room like an autist.I pace around a lot too. In my case it's ADHD. I suggest you get yourself checked if it's not financially prohibitive for you, even just so you know what it is you have. It may be affecting you in other ways too.
I'm kind of frustrated that my new habit of writing anthologies with each chapter about a commission linked in the author's notes isn't served well for those who read the epub downloads. This means the Fimfarchive copies are lesser. The only partial solution I've found is providing multiple links to the image on the different boorus, in the hopes that one works years from now. I also dump the short stories in the images' descriptions, but I didn't do that for my latest one because it was nearly 2,000 words long.
>>41690289>anything being lesser than your writing as-is[X] Doubt
I check this board once a month to see if anyone's done one of those funky PasteJams. Those are great because there's at least a guarantee of a certain amount of people reading your story, and in fact providing pretty good advice. I hope someone does one again (where are you Aftercase?), because I can't make threads.
>>41690376Last PasteJams I saw was in the /green/ general but it's dead.
>>41690095Lightning Dust literally did nothing wrong Twilight and her friends just decided to go to the academy without any prior word of their coming, if they got hurt by what LD did it would have 100% been an accident and not even due to her negligence but the negligence of the Wonderbolts of keeping civilians out of the area and of Twilight and friends.
>>41690439Therein lies the problem with this assignment: one cannot "redeem" a pony who has done no wrong. Any redemption would have to be on the part of those responsible for this miscarriage of justice.
>>41690439Wrong.
>>41690527I'll be the first to admit that she was cock-sure and reckless, but guess what? That's what drill sergeants are for. Not sitting at their desks, flicking their beans while a bunch of civvies wander right into an active test range.
>>41690529The Nuremberg Defence doesn't work if you're not following orders.
>>41690534Anon, the only order I Spit on Your Face gave her rookies was to clear as many clouds as possible, as fast as possible. She CONGRATULATED Dash after she spoke of the tornado, only having second thoughts after her second-best flier quit in disgust.She then decided, rather than confronting her own ineptitude, to lay the blame for the whole affair at Dust's hooves, who, while no bastion of tactfulness, was in no way responsible for the clusterfuck beyond getting the tornado going.
>>41690545Wrong.
>>41690552If this is some kind of writing exercise, I think I'd be better off starting work on the first draft than repeating the same points over and over.
>>41690558It's a watch the show exercise.
>>41690567Perhaps you should practice what you preach, then.
>>41690439Trixie did nothing wrong as well.
>>41690688She held the town hostage Stephen King style.
>>41690688This is such a stupid take when she demonstrably repeatedly does something wrong even in her first show. Having a stage persona and spinning tales is one thing, but physically inconveniencing or harming your audience is not part of any reasonable show. There's no world where what she did to Rarity isn't wrong.
>>41690743Counterpoint: Any action taken to distress worst pony should be applauded.
>>41690760Hot.
>>41690760Every day is Rape Rarity Day.
I like Rarity. She's the funniest character on the show.
>>41690810You certainly can (and should) laugh at her.
>>41690822if you think about it, most of rarity's personality defecits could be explained by her having undergone a botched lobotomy.
>>41690815I don't think of her at all
>>41690760Having the objectively correct taste is such a pain sometimes. It's almost tiring.
>>41690907Not nearly as tiring as sucking more dicks than /fimfic/ and your mother combined.>Verification knot required.
>>41690915>sucking more dicks than /fimfic/ and your mother combined.Anon, be real.There aren't that many dicks in the world.
>>41690915I thought this thread was against self-inserting, but who am I to stop your fantasies?
>>41690915>>41690922I love the rara banter whenever best pony is mentionedNever change, /mlp/
>>41690952*best hole
>>41690956There are cheaper ways of getting an STI.
>>41690962Yeah but Rainbow Dash isn't always available.
>>41690962>cheaper than someone paying you for it
>>41690973What you gain in whorebuxx, you lose in antiretrovirals.And to bring this back on topic, has any fic ever included sexual diseases without it being (too) gross and weird?
>>41690987Rarirape is a state sponsored activity.
>>41690822I don't like that I like this.
>>41691371The kabal welcomes you.
>>41691387I want to be Rarity. Does that change anything?
>>41691400No.
>>41690922I self inserted as Twilight in that one animation.
>>41691440Which one?
>>41691455>>41690915Context clues, anon.
Fuck me. The pit of voles has a 1 million+ word rational fic that is still ongoing. Has anyone read it?
When writing fiction, it is generally said that you should keep writing and only go back to edit when you are done. Is the same true of non-fiction? I'm writing up some notes on a big subject and I don't know if I should keep researching or pause to aggregate certain notes and split things out into sections.
>>41691735To make a parallel with movies, there's pre-production, production, and post-production.You should do (at least the majority of) your research before you start writing. Find out all the details regarding lore, timeline, and whatever else.Then, you write, write, write, based on what you've researched.Finally, you go back and take your bulk of typed words and whip it into shape and polish it.That's not to say you can't go back and forth between activities, but it's ideal to try to focus on each individually to streamline things.
>>41691735I once looked into what professionals do. Most often, a writer starts with some preliminary research. This gives them enough information to submit a book proposal to a publisher. The proposal describes the topic and scope of the book. If the publisher agrees, the writer gets an advance. A large fraction of the time spent working on the book is doing research, organizing notes, and outlining. It depends on the writer and the book, but if I recall correctly, it's usually between 1/2 to 3/4 of the total working time. Near the end of this process, the writer will produce a detailed outline. This will go through several drafts. The editor may look at the outline, too. The final text of the book is usually begun only when the outline is complete. By that point, the writer knows what will be said in each section. The book will go through several drafts, just like the outline. It'll be examined by a copyeditor for grammar and spelling, by some other researcher to verify its correctness, and possibly by the publisher's legal department if anything in the book could lead to a lawsuit. Sweeping changes are unlikely at this point; those should already have been handled at the outline stage.
I remain blown away by the extremely high quality of Cadence in A Minor. It is so good that it calls in to question all of the time I have spent reading other works of fan fiction. I have consumed so much shit that I now lack the skill to describe how good this fic is.
>one of your favourite writers drops a fic about some of your favourite characters Life is good.
Is it still vagueposting when it's this obvious? That's not the new fic I'm looking forward to reading, though.
>>41692212It's only obvious if you know.
>>41692118Yeah it's really good.
>>41692231Anyone else getting an error 500 on trying to create a new fic? No, it's not the cover art, I'm not uploading any.
When I was 14, I loved a woman so much that I tried to convince her boyfriend to fuck me because I hoped it would bring me closer to her. Where can I find characters like this? What is the archetype?
>>41692797I'm 80% sure there was a /fit/ greentext like that.
>>41691460See >>41690124>>41692797Hi, Golly.
>>41692803>GollyI've seen "seduce the daughters so you can fuck the mother" porn before, but I've never seen it with Golly-aged daughters.
>>41692911A friend of mine once wrote a book where one of the most important characters has a major speech impediment. I can only assume that he did this for the added challenge.
>>41692797Lose weight and stretch so you can get backpack cucked.
>>41692961Question: if a pretty lady wore a backpack on her belly, would you climb in like a good little fetus and be gently rocked to sleep by her getting vigorously rutted?
>>41692961>backpack cuckedwhat the fuck is this? the guy gives you a piggyback ride while he fucks your wife?
>>41692797Yall niggas have problems
>>41693005No.>>41693020I'm not posting the file directly because I don't feel like going on vacation:https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/d/image/1553/67/1553673602750.png
>>41693040mods might be fags, but I doubt they'd ban you over some classic chan culture.
>>41690095Wow, a rubber slut. Bet she squeaks a lot when she moves.>>41690086>>41689935You're a faggot and you are missing the obvious option of your santee waifus BOTH of them
>>41693045>spoiler 1Indeed~>spoiler 2I'm working under the assumption he doesn't, because I can't mail him a pipe bomb in a purely online event.
>>41693040>8chFucking based
>>41693067I will sneak delayed-action itching powder into her tight squeaky rubber suit right before an important event.>because I can't mail him a pipe bomb in a purely online event>he doesn't understand memetics enough to cause a Ted eventWeak!
>>41692911I often do.
>>41690086It better be a whistleblower/government conspiracy fic where Spitfire's trying to cover it up and not some kind of gay thing where they just bitch at each other like it's the aftermath of ACW,>>41690238Technically, no. There's a bunch of OC/furry material that qualifies, but none of it is directly tied to the setting.
Any stories about Lightning Dust that are similar to her portrayal in Pony Waifu Sim?
>>41690086Spitfire is literally not part if your prompt afaik, you can just have Dust and the other character doing a pony kind of moral reformation that's unrelated to the original accident and more of an atonement through adventure and good deeds.
>>41693866>doing a pony kind of moral reformationAlternatively, he could write a good fic.
Why don't you take a seat over there, Miss Sparkle*?>/FSBC/I read the rest of the fic on Sunday night, then promptly got busy with other stuff until 30 minutes ago, so excuse any errors and oversights.While admittedly there were some hiccups along the way, I really like how the remni side of the story was handled. It's probably accurate to claim that it's the story about them as much as it is about the (tagged) Mane 6, and on that front it delivered really well. Other than the excellent pacing, it's a fic where the foreshadowing was done very competently. I wish I had said more about it last week since it'd make me look more smart, but it plants some ideas in the reader's mind and then nudges you in the right direction every so often before properly revealing what happened. The big one that I missed was Celesita, and I still think Gloom's "Will of the Goddess" reveal was a great reveal/twist.As for Celestia, she's here, I guess. I didn't like that part of the ending much. This is close to the most generous way you can include very cosmic versions of C&L into a fic while reconciling it with their pony focus (I have done something similar myself once), but how she's portrayed at the end is not great. Then the whole conflict boils to:>"Congrats, Twi, now we can kill all of ponykind together!" (evil laughter)>"No.">"KK, see you in 500k years and have fun~"Seriously. The fic's ending has way more going for it so it doesn't do much harm to the story, but that part is a bit of a letdown—it needed more words to really amount to something. The other disappointing thing was M6's token'y involvement in the finale. Also, Wow! Glimmer! is here. I don't think Mortality Virus being resolved this way was bad. It was never the main thing in the story, and the explanation we got makes sense as an event starting the fic.But before I run out of space, I must say that I simply really enjoyed reading this fic. No university or RCL would put it on their "must read" lists, and I think they're missing out. It's not some masterwork of literature to be carefully analyzed line-by-line; not all good fics need to aim for that. This one—filled with typos and minor inconsistencies as it is—wanted to tell a cool and very pony story, and I think it succeeded at that greatly.The huge action scene at the end was—once again—fun to read. It felt vindicating to see Sho (queen shoggoth) beat up the cultist remni so hard they had to pivot plans; alongside their backstory, it retroactively explains why everypony struggled to beat just one in the previous chapters. I wish the shoggoths remained not!shoggoths until the end, but Unwhole Whole can't help himself with the references and it's less egregious than the Witcher character in HoD. They're not shoggoths anyway; they just bear a lot of superficial similarities.I may be biased as this kind of FiM adventure is precisely what I hope more authors would try to write, but it's a very easily recommendable fic.
>>41694089I forgot about the asterisk:*So let me get this straight: Twilight—a 485000 years old goddess—raised and groomed Light Gloom, and then dated him before he was out of their society's accepted foalhood age. The reasonable explanation is that her saying that "he was still a foal" when he died at 300 years was not meant literally, but I choose to accept the other argument.Much like after HoD, one post doesn't cover even 20% of what happened in the last week of this fic, but that's what replies are for. Dare I say, it was pretty "kino".[VOTING]Next week we're reading... actually no one re-voted for anything, so I'm picking one of the older votes. Due to the overwhelming thread recommendations, we're starting Cadence in a Minor (mind the spelling):https://www.fimfiction.net/story/66834/cadence-in-a-minorThe first 7 chapters, up to (and including) Like a Prince on week 1. Then up to When Fragile Hearts Collide on week 2, and the rest on the third week.
>>41693451>not some kind of gay thingwdytwa
>>41694133You can be gay without being cringe.
>>41694089The Elements of Harmony will return. And they will save us. Well that was fun. And surprisingly kino. I'm quite satisfied with the ending. At the point on the ship where the beeg mare emphasized her anonymity I realized who it was, but I definitely didn't anticipate what her goals were lmao. Pure Alicorns being actual gods was unexpected.>Congrats Twilight, now you can join us in another cycle of rebirth to try againUhhhhh, and what about Cadence? You're telling me they witnessed a new god and then let her die barely even a fraction into her new life? And nobody even mentions her lmao. I guess she stopped being important when Twilight also became a god and they realized having a god of friendship/knowledge was a better addition than a god of breeding. Anyways, I also really liked the goo ponies and windigos. Coming together to fight Twilight's dumbass cult was kino, and so was everyone witnessing the true power of friendship. The remnis... I liked them a lot, but it seems like a somewhat massive plot hole that the entire faction of remnis (the cult) didn't understand that putting the royal navy captain in a remni doesn't just magically make her on their side. I'm reading dowas right now and have been along side this fic and it's the same energy as the dogs looking at a pony and saying "This one will stop revolting now" and then just turning their back on the pony who is about to kill them expecting that to be enough. The goo ponies really were kino though, well I guess we kinda had to wait till we saw the queens, but we got there. >"Thank you for giving me my friends back,"Kino, I liked Starlight's role in the fic>every living pony is a direct descendant of Flurry Heart>"I neither disagree nor disagree."kek, I can't tell at this point if this was even a typo or not>dead immortals still have living bodiesInteresting take. And again, nobody even mentions Cadence when Celestia is talking. Is the immortal body just part of being a god? Is she essentially just waiting for her setting and rising to happen again to be reborn? Who knows and who cares. I guess cadence is just permanently fucked even if she can be reborn since a remni (potentially immortal) is now using her body for the foreseeable future. >goo pony queens fucking up cultists while saying 'The Elements of Harmony will return. And they will save us. We are Twilight Sparkle.'Kino>"of course we feel love."pretty kino>Fluttershy hiding with the ejected mech cores>the pure alicorns are in fact actual gods>cover art suddenly on the final pageKINO. I love this cover art.
>>41694163Well, for once I'm 100% on the same page as you. Nice when it happens.One of the (many) things to note is that the density of the sex jokes at the beginning of this section was starting to get too high, but I suppose the author wanted to make up for the later parts of the fic, which featured almost none. Averages out, I guess.>what about Cadence?They've got a new Cadance with a remni brain. The fic doesn't answer this (I think?) but the details about their 'setting' are so scarce I'm not sure how much of a reset they get. Since they get new bodies to match, I presume Luna will be just fine but Cadance won't because she's completely and undeniably soul-dead. We're proving once again that the fic's Ranni got the much better deal. And maybe Zombie "Cadance" counts as a valid god for the sake of their divine duties, too. Tbdesu it'd be an upgrade with Silken at the helm. Oh, I see you mentioned it later.>I guess cadence is just permanently fuckedYep, that's my take. They talk about her soul being gone to the afterlife (if it exists). She's not coming back.>really liked the goo ponies and windigos>fight Twilight's dumbass cult was kino>goo pony queens>KINOYup, I liked the ending other than Celestia's scene. Bonus points for making ponies good and having a hopeful ending despite the cosmic loop/reset part of the lore.>remni (...) plot holeAlso the impression I got, but maybe they thought she'd see their side of the argument once she became a remnus herself and see that they all are as well.>can't tell at this point if this was even a typo or notMy favorite is this: "He did go alone. Beside him on his left stood Corona Fade, leading her force of (...)", when the paragraph wanted to emphasize "He did NOT go alone." Not as bad as the "to, two, too" thing from HoD, but definitely up there.>"of course we feel love."There were some really great bits about the remni. My favorite were:>“You aren’t programmed, Silken. No remni are.” // “All remni are, even if there was no one to program us but ourselves.”and>Silken looked down at Twilight and smiled softly. “I am a remnus. I do not feel sadness. None of us do, as we are not programmed to. And I assure you, Twilight Sparkle: that is indeed the greatest lie I have ever told you.”
>>41694089>While admittedly there were some hiccups along the wayThe worst part of this fic by far is the shitty typos that a single reader could've fixed without issue. The second worst part is the sex jokes>I really like how the remni side of the story was handled. It's probably accurate to claim that it's the story about them as much as it is about the (tagged) Mane 6Ye, Silken is one of the best characters in the fic and I'd say she and Twilight are the main characters>it's a fic where the foreshadowing was done very competentlyye. I like that we all thought the goo pony in the castle might've been Starlight (and it kinda was) but then we actually see starlight not long after>I still think Gloom's "Will of the Goddess" reveal was a great reveal/twist.lmao at him being an actual heretic>but how she's portrayed at the end is not great.Hmm, I can see where you're coming from for sure. The celestia we know, in this scenario, probably would've just lived out the rest of the ponies life and then started anew, not have a thought and go "Yeah, these ones are done for. I guess I'll kill them myself to hurry it along" kek. But I suppose it might've been a result of her having more time to rise and this just being what she matures into. I'll agree though she didn't really seem to try, especially since Twilight was the one doing all the ground work. And even seeing the Mane 6 again and the elements of harmony didn't even give her a flicker of doubt. Although maybe the Elements were unique to this 14 generation and she assumed they also failed or something. Anyway, I didn't mind it really.>The other disappointing thing was M6's token'y involvement in the finaleWell I mean they used the elements and reminded Twilight about the good ole' days. That's all I really expected from them>and the explanation we got makes sense as an event starting the fic.kek @ Twilight making an oopsie and killing her niece>I must say that I simply really enjoyed reading this ficAbsolutely. It was a fun one and the great pacing was a huge part of that>No university or RCL would put it on their "must read" lists, and I think they're missing outit's funny liking stories that are full of errors and then reading the straight shit that's on some of their lists>It felt vindicating to see Sho (queen shoggoth) beat up the cultist remni so hard they had to pivot plansThat was great. Like less than 30 seconds into finding the two queens they went "alright this isn't gonna work" and had to retreat lmao. After seeing how powerful they are all fic that was awesome>>41694115>but I choose to accept the other argument.I mean that's 10% of their lifespan. Which I guess after thinking about it seems about right for nature to take its course and perhaps society has evolved in some ways as well.>Dare I say, it was pretty "kino".Agreed.>Due to the overwhelming thread recommendations, we're starting Cadence in a Minor (mind the spelling):what the fugggg
>>41694229>what the fuggggWhat, it's just Shining Armor dealing with erectile dysfunction
>>41694226>One of the (many) things to note is that the density of the sex jokes at the beginning of this section was starting to get too highI think the biggest problems with sex jokes is that it makes me jump out of any immersion I had and acts as some weird 4th wall OOC break for whichever mane 6 says it. If sex isn't an actual part of the fic then there's no place for it in random mane 6 quips. Like sure if the quips had been about Flurry heart then they *could've* been acceptable without ruining the moment. But a death laser hitting the moon and Twilight saying 'Gloom was never a good shot' is fucking retarded>Tbdesu it'd be an upgrade with Silken at the helmBrutal, but Silken is top tier so I can't really say you're wrong. And she got her own cult, so as far as I'm aware that will let her guide her civilization which is the only real duty the gods seem to have>the details about their 'setting' are so scarce I'm not sure how much of a reset they get. Since they get new bodies to match, I presume Luna will be just fine but Cadance won'tDo they? Or have they tried 14 versions of ponies? And we just lost the first 10. They probably do, but as you said nothing is really explained. It was interesting to think that Celestia and Luna have been alive for billions of years though.>They talk about her soul being gone to the afterlife (if it exists). She's not coming back.But did Tia say anything like that? For all we know she is just doing the same thing Luna is doing, but nobody knows how to wet dream on demand to visit her, or do whatever they have to do to get to whatever her 'realm' is. Probably praying while doing a cum tribute to her daughter or something>Bonus points for making ponies good and having a hopeful endingabsolutely. That's true pony kino right there.>My favorite is this: "He did go alone. Beside him on his left stood Corona Fade, leading her force of (...)"I laughed at that one too but didn't put it in my notes>"And I assure you, Twilight Sparkle: that is indeed the greatest lie I have ever told you.”Getting some real alpha legion vibes>>41694242Yeah, I'm not sure I wanna read that at work. Or really even out of work.
>>41694261>or even out of workTrust me, it's a lot better than it sounds. Take it from a guy who isn't here for fap fics.
>>41693040>girls laughing with cum on their facesIs this a new fetish awakened?
oh that doctor caballeron rapes scootaloo fic finished
>>41694089>>41694089So this fic turned out ... fine, I suppose. I like the fact that the remni were recognised as being more "pony" than most had given them credit for, and that they seem to have been set up to exist on a somewhat equal footing to the ponies going forward. I still feel like there were some loose threads regarding the remni that would have left some anons unsatisfied. For example, the author really just brushes over why exactly the remni kill themselves with vague "psychological" reasons, when it seemed to have been pretty pivotal to their existence. Silken is cute and take-charge as usual, and the other remni get some nice moments of their own. Twilight's creation of the mortality virus wasn't surprising, but Light Gloom's solution of TPD and Total Remni Transformation was pretty idiotic, as Celestia points out. In general, introducing Light Gloom as a previous romantic partner AND Twilight's adoptive son didn't really add anything significant to his character. If anything, it made him LESS compelling; the whole mess smacked of teenagers inserting romance for the sake of cheap drama when the story would have worked better without. Celestia was just totally out of left field, coming in in the last 5k words and upending the established setting with this new "cycle" bullshit. She was an antagonist for all of 10 minutes before reconciling with Twilight; I was relieved UH wasn't setting up some kind of hook for a sequel. The story was getting to a perfectly serviceable conclusion! It felt like "deepest lore" for the sake of "deepest lore". There were a lot of things that UH included that I felt were unnecessary; maybe it's just his style. The captain and other Navy ponies had an interesting subplot with disabling the dimensional hammer, although their previous motivation of saving the mane 5 and leaving Twilight was just abandoned without ceremony. Luna also just totally vanishes from the story, and even though it's implied that she's aligned with Celestia, I'd have liked to see her more directly. The descriptions of Cadance's corpse getting bumped around the tomb were more comical than anything else. I hate to admit it, but I pictured her in the stupid Family Guy meme pose when she fell off her intended "final resting place". I feel kind of bad that her corpse was hijacked, no offense to Silken, but there was no more soul anyway, right? At least she gets a cult of Windigoes and shoggoths now.
>>41694352>flagI actually need to make a checklist before I post or something. Continued...Finally, there were way too many sex jokes! I thought they were reasonably restrained last week, but now it seemed like every other line that came out of the mane 6 were dirty innuendos. EVERY line, in Pinkie's case. It's regrettable that the mane 6 were sidelined to comic relief as soon as the fighting got "serious", only coming into play as batteries for the Friendship Laser (tm). We also don't really get any resolution for them, either. Asking for an epilogue might be a bit much, but I would have loved a few lines about Rarity spreading the Good Word of fashion to the space ponies, or Pinkie starting a comedy club, or something like that.
>>41694089>Gloom's "Will of the Goddess" revealI think this was probably the only good thing to come out of the Celestia reveal. I liked the double entendre of having multiple goddesses, but it also kind of competed with the idea of simply having different interpretations of *Twilight's* will specifically, which is what was usually implied. >Celestia and the mane 6100% agreed. >Wow! Glimmer!She was fucking based, didn't need a single line to kick ass. You could almost say she was a second protagonist, with how critical she was to the resolution of the story. I bet she could have solo'd Light Gloom and won ^:). No, but seriously; it was neat how she brought together the windigoes and shoggoths, but it felt like she was yet another mechanism to "make Twilight's team stronger" for the sake of having a cool battle. I'm not a big battle kind of guy (parts of it were cool, though), so maybe I just would have liked her to have more character interaction. Her character was already basically complete by the point this week's reading started. As it stands, her resolution at seeing the rainbow and finally being freed was really sweet. >it's a very easily recommendable ficI think you ARE biased. The fic's strong points were its setting and good narrative structure, but it wasn't anything super special outside of that. The pony-ness of the mane 6 decreased pretty dramatically during this last week, and Celestia felt like she was shoehorned in just for the sake of having her. >41694115>Cadence in a Minor^:(. Look, I read the first chapter the other day and didn't even think it was that great. Maybe it'll get better (who knows?), but it seems to me like anons are just excited to read a sexually-themed fic that ISN'T clop. >>41694163>The Elements of Harmony will returnThe Elements were kino, if only because they represented the affirmation of pony-ness in this very pony-hostile setting. >Uhhhhh, and what about Cadence?Sidelined in canon, sidelined in fanfiction. It's a shame, because I do really like her. She's not named after a heavenly body, though, so too bad. >goo ponies really were kino thoughThey felt too overpowered to me, personally, but seeing them only concerned with looting the battlefield was pretty funny. >Kino, I liked Starlight's role in the ficShe suffered alone for so long, so it's great that she's finally succeeded in her mission and found peace. >>"of course we feel love.">pretty kinoYeah, I really like the fact that the remni are confirmed to have real emotions.
>>41694089Not many answers in this week, and what few of them are, disappoint. Now we see why ponies don’t notice the point at which they become Remni. It’s barely a change. And, of course, they basically have no reason to kill themselves again after they become a machine. There’s one scene in which the captain becomes autistic and can’t understand why Inky is sad, but that only lasts a few minutes before she goes right back to naturally bantering with her subordinates. I wonder what would’ve happened if the story was self aware enough to recognize that there is genuinely no cause for Inky to be sad, because the captain hardly lost anything to death and gained a lot more actually tangible benefits from remnification.It does make sense that the reveal for the Will of the Goddess is saved for the very last chapter. As an in-universe motivation, it doesn’t stand up to even a fraction of a second of consideration, and letting it stew for a while would probably sap what little characterization Light Gloom has as a villain.I agree with the posts above about how the Celestia-Architect reveal seems tacked on. The only thing good about it is that after all of the failed attempts at making Twilight’s cult seem like they can be reasoned with, Celestia is the actual singular “villain” who can just be talked out of ending the world. It is kinda funny that she specifically calls out Light Gloom’s mission as pointless right after the captain shows that their duel was pointless, when the characterization delivered in his duel had more of a point than the one with the actually pointless map room duel.As a last little thing I resent about the fic, the comment about how the alicorn DNA in the Mortality Virus is what’s keeping them alive directly contradicts the initial description of evolved ponies as already being immortal. The purpose of what became the Mortality Virus was to cause ponies to regain the ability to use magic, as well as restore their physical vitality, not make them immortal.
>>41694229>it might've been a result of her having more time to rise and this just being what she matures intoSure, that was probably what the fic intended. But then she just instantly gives up proving that it wasn't a problem despite claiming that the last time something similar happened the universe almost god destroyed by Discord? I can buy both her initial stance and the compromise, but it happens so quickly that it didn't feel like anything important and Tia is just flopping around after 500k years of watching ponies burn heretics in her name. It's not a huge deal, just less good than the rest of the finale was for me.Oh, that reminds me: RD being constantly disappointed by Twi's cult of nerds and their calm "Yeah we read books all day" response was very funny. Unlike Ponk, whose jokes are usually not the best. And while the scene where Twi fixes a Windigo isn't my favorite part of the fic, I snorted at Silken enthusiastically knocking over FS. Not all of the jokes land and the fic is still funny pretty often.>Twilight making an oopsie and killing her nieceLook, mistakes happen. I forgot to prepare dinner today and Twilight accidentally killed countless billions of ponies. It can't be helped.>reading the straight shit that's on some of their listsAnd yet this one is a proper longfic, completed in 2017, that's sitting at <200 upvotes. Hand of Doom has 68. I wonder how many great stories are lying forgotten on the site with such unimpressive scores.>what the fuggggI think his problem is that there is no fugggg.>>41694261>Like sure if the quips had been (...)I agree with that. That particular one was what made me roll my eyes and go "alright, too much".>spoilerkek>Or really even out of work.I mean, I was hesitant as well, but it seems like everyone itt who reads it likes it enough to recommend it. What's the bookclub for if not that?>>41694352Funny how >vague "psychological" reasonsWhat (I think) they meant is that they get just too depressed to live unless they're like TwiCult's remni or Silken and find some goal in their lives. That's why Silken has that conversation I quoted earlier right before/during the finale. I think the author's robophobia is to blame.>was pretty idiotic, as Celestia points outNo, she's totally wrong. To be fair, so is Gloom for not calling her out on this, but preserving ponykind as a race of effectively immortal robots would've worked. Yeah they can't reproduce and will, eventually, fail due to critical accidents or suicides, but that's literal millennia that they can spend figuring out how to backup their brain harddrives or create some sort of reproduction algorithm. No one is really in the wrong there, besides Celestia. You can understand why Twi wanted to make her divine race, and why non-divine ponies would feel intimidated by it.>In general, introducing Light Gloom asCould've/should've been omitted but not a big deal, imo.
