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Previous Thread: >>42772630
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42772630

Discuss:
>Work on any pony and/or tech related projects (You) are working on or learnt about recently.
>Post (You)r pony themed technology (desktops/rices, papes, new devices, software ponies)
>What software and technology do (You) use? (Email, Git, OSes, Messaging, Monero, etc...)
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I'm currently trying to get pic rel to work as a webcam on my GNU/Linux machine
firmware isn't a problem (there are functional dumps of it online) but the device outputs video in a proprietary format that looks like shit when it's not modified in any way (image is doubled multiple times)
from what I read online there is a community-made driver that's only available for Windows. Currently thinking about porting that junk to GNU/Linux
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>>42762387
>>42762395
Well, got a newfangled wildcard SSL cert for the domain.
Not much to do about the SSH port. It's a shared webhost, and at least they're are (relatively) cheap.
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>>42774989
>pts dead in less than 24 hours
Wtf happened
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>>42775579
>Wtf happened
shartyslider and his shitty threads
>>42775010
from what I managed to find
>windows driver was a red herring (same shit as on GNU/Linux)
>there's a github project that adds support for openCV, it has a small script to output normal (and fixed!) RGB webcam video
>said script doesn't work on my machine
>also would be better if I could use fixed camera in various applications
I'm gonna look for a way to make virtual /dev/video that's just another /dev/video with modifications kek
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>>42775630
pipe it through OBS lol
why did you buy this shitass webcam anyway
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>>42776803
>pipe it through OBS lol
OBS is bloat
>why did you buy this shitass webcam anyway
because I have a PS4 and wanted to see how shitty Tearaway Unfolded is
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>>42776815
>bloat
>The Linux user shrieks when confronted with a productive system.
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>>42776831
why the fuck would I need to use a streaming+video recording software just to modify my webcam's video output?
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>>42776875
>obs is bloat, let me get this python library that will rearrange pixels one by one instead
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>>42775326
Nice. But I can still see your funky crusty forum in the certificate extension entry, kek
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>https://www.fsf.org/news/2025-photo-contest-winners
>only 21 images submitted
>One guy submitted almost half.
>Only three people are on the voting page
That's pretty sad on one hand but on the other... we would totally be able to sneak some ponies in there
these are (some of) the entries btw: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fsf40-photo-contest-voting

Some of you fags can make beautiful fucking rices, I don't know how many people voted but I bet we could have won this without any rigging.
I need to start reading the fucking newsletter more often
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>>42777314
Those pictures are fucking depressing.
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anyone have any ongoing pony hardware/software projects going on? i wanna figure out something like that in the future but dont have the time or money to yet.
(pretend the cats in the pic are fillies or something)
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>>42777314
wtf is fsf
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>>42777971
I'm not even sure if you're ironic or not
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>>42777971
oh never mind it’s wonderfully boring shit, those photos are indeed depressing

>random /pol/ tier image of someone going “we can’t trust without the sauce code!!” because it’s used by a EU voting machine system.
>random photo of someone’s shitty HP laptop running server processes in a command line
>random photo of someone running another OS in a VM.
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>>42777975
I’m not ironic I’ve never heard of it.
The most /g/ faggotry I’ve done is basic command line stuff (fuck there being no guides on how to run command line scripts, you’d think it’d be the first thing that comes to your mind when “basics” but rust/krakatau doesn’t document it in their get started guide and not do many other programs)
and running x32 Bodhi Linux on a 2003 IBM R40, until my OS corrupted itself with a permissions escalation command then the 20 year old HDD crashed and shit the bed on trying to reinstall a new OS
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>>42777985
>I’m not ironic I’ve never heard of it.
GNU in GNU/Linux stands for the GNU Project
they develop GCC, glibc, GNU coreutils and other essential Unix stuff
they also wrote the GPL license that many free software projects use
Free Software Foundation is their 501(c)3 to manage funds, copyright and support other projects (most of them are shit in comparison to GNU)
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>>42777532
Yeah, I just hope they'll run it again next year. I really want to join, but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave up
>>42777971
>>42777975
I mean, they should work on their marketing
>>42777981
I agree with the "we can't trust the source" but I have no idea why would you submit screencap like that into a PHOTO contest. The other screencaps at least tried
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bmp
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>>42778665
Stallman tried to to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Also he did come back to FSF anyway
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>>42778717
>Defend Epstein
Didn't hear of that, although it's probably just as much of a nothingburger as his thoughts on sex education in schools, which he clearly wrote in a way to troll, back in a time when people could still joke about that stuff.

If anyone has dead babies in their basement Bill Gates is a far more likely candidate.
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>>42778717
>Stallman tried to to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
No he didn't. What he said was something like
>I can't believe my good friend Marvin Minsky would have sex with a girl if he knew she was being coerced
>so the girls on Epstein's island must have been instructed to pretend that they were there willingly
Which is 100% obvious, but the normies went berserk anyway when the saw it
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>>42778617
xpm
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>>42778812
So a nothingburger, as I expected. They wouldn't have accepted any statement from him besides complete and utter condemnation without any reserved judgment, because they are looking for anything they can use to tar and feather him with. His viewpoints are too "problematic" for the dystopian society we have in current year.
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I've been collecting videos all over the internet for the past 5 years, be it movies or TV series and compressing them to HEVC to save up space. I've got over 3TB of movies like that. I watch all movies locally from the MP4 or MKV files and they look and play just fine, and the space save is significant.
Yet for whatever reason, for the past few months I've been having very intrusive thoughts of running through the collection, and redownloading everything, and encoding it in MPEG-2 so it can be fit on a DVD.
Why?
I don't even have a DVD player or recorder. My laptops are capable of decoding and encoding HEVC. So really, what the hell is wrong with me?
It was easier for me with the music, since I just looked for good source that wasn't remastered shit, downloaded it in FLAC and compressed to OPUS.
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>>42779943
Use case for DVDs?
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>>42780065
Damned if I know.
They suck as medium for constant use, I've been there 15-20 years ago and I know it stinks. They scratch and you also have to rely on mechanical drives that may go out of production one day, just like it happened to VHS.
I'm stupid.
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>>42778665
>the founding fathers of open sauce, Richard Stallman,
open source is for niggers
he defended FREE SOFTWARE
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up you go
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>>42779943
>So really, what the hell is wrong with me?
There is some satisfaction in minimalism. Some take it to the level of reducing functionality/quality to one's own "good enough" levels. Same thing with pretending to live with old tech's constraints. Not entirely sure but you could say that about demoscene and their filesize limits too.
But on the other hoof, I'd say you're probably bored. I saw this is my friends too, some of them jump between projects, e.g. buying one of each game console, then restoring + jailbreaking them just to sit on a shelf. I'm falling out of a short obsession with Meshtastic/MeshCore back to neverending todo list that homelab brings - I needed a break from that for a while to enjoy it again. Similarly, I'm feeling an urge to buy a LibreDrive compatible BD drive and setup a disc ripping station despite having no media on discs at all. Or a DVB-T setup to plug into Jellyfin, despite not watching TV ever. Just for that thrill of having some aspect of tech "fully completed" and ready for use, if it's ever going to be needed.
I wanted to list fixing up my Ender printer here too, but so far I do have some useful things to print and improving the printer would bring me actual value. Such as a Marble Pie statue in a pretty marble filament, or, well, cases for those LoRa nodes.
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>>42781348
Thanks for the response.
>buying "ewaste", restoring it only for it to sit on the shelf
Been there, done that with a lot of computers. At my peak a few years ago I had all sort of laptops from 2003-2013, about 50 of them. Sold them with little to no profit, and now I daily drive two not so new ThinkPads.
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>>42780217
Closed source software is by its very definition unfree.
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>>42781706
open source is about "convenience", not freedom
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>>42781824
Not the issue. Open source is part of the solution, just not the complete package. However, closed source software is never a solution in any way whatsoever.
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>>42782419
wake me up when it ends..
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>>42782540
It never ends, anon.

It never ends.
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How do you choose a DE? I'm looking at Debian right now and they literally have a selection of dozens of DEs. I've only tried GNOME (utter shit), KDE (good but seems a bit bloated) and Xfce (pretty sleek but somewhat minimal), how do I know which one is right for me? I'm not going to bother to check them all out.
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>>42782858
>they literally have a selection of dozens of DEs
[X] Doubt
Dozens of WMs, sure, but I don't think there even exist more than a dozen full DEs for Linux. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, that one that starts with an E, the one from Pop OS, the shitty one that Ubuntu used to ship (might have been discontinued). Those are all I know of and it's only seven. I'm probably missing one or two, since I want to say there are 5-6 DE options in tasksel in the debian installer, and I only covered 3 or 4 of those
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>>42782880
Oh right, some are not really full fledged DEs. I was just going by what was listed besides Desktop on Distrowatch for Debian. I've used several of those "minimal" window managers when I was trying out AntiX for an old system, but I don't really like them, or at least not as a daily driver.

So MATE is not a full DE? What about LXDE/LXQt? I've used that one a couple times and it seems kind of the same in features as something like Xfce. When is something considered a complete DE? What does it need to ship with?
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>>42782858
I like KDE. Lots of features, enough niceties, progressively better UX. Gnome could be neat but its pursuit of feature minimalism even at the expense of UX is just incompatible with me. Xfce, LxQT are nice but currently I don't need their kind of minimalism. Cinnamon is cool in its own way, seems featureful and also gets more usable with each month, but it has few devs and arguably is meant to be used with only one OS, which... isn't my favorite distromare at this moment. I don't really care about other DEs currently.
>how do I know which one is right for me? I'm not going to bother to check them all out.
Well... download *ubuntu live ISOs with each DE and check them all out, with or without installing, but keep in mind Ubuntu ships with Gnome patched to restore silly bloat such as min/max window buttons and desktop icons. I think other DEs are mostly intact.
Suffice to say, I'm so displeased with Gnome that I still run KDE on my tablet. I'd much prefer something with bigger elements and more paddings, and yet for all the good things they've borrowed from macOS, there's so much of Gnome's own invention that baffles me.
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what are good screen recorders for Wayland (under KDE)?
SSR doesn't support Wayland, OBS is too complex for me and Spectacle doesn't support recording sound
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>>42782858
GNOME tries too hard to reinvent the wheel, while also copying Apple wherever possible
XFCE is very good and versatile, however takes adjusting to, since it has UI philosophy from over 25 years ago (which isn't anything bad, but it takes adjusting to. I view XFCE as Windows 2000 but modernized).
I'm overwhelmed by KDE + it doesn't help that it looks like Windows 10/11 (or vice versa lol)
Cinnamon is literally Windows 7.
I've been using Mint with Cinnamon since 2017. I've had a few distro hops on the way, but for me it's the one that gets the job done with least adjusting needed.
Never really cared for MATE or LXDE/Qt.
>>42783424
I haven't used Wayland for long, but I think KDE's print screen has built in screen recorder.
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>>42783428
>I haven't used Wayland for long, but I think KDE's print screen has built in screen recorder.
that's spectacle and it doesn't support recordings with sound
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>>42783430
Aw shucks.
Off my head I can currently throw two flatpaks I use, but both are GTK based I think.
RecApp and GPU Screen Recorder. Good luck.
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>>42783440
>but both are GTK based I think.
not really a problem desu
>GPU Screen Recorder
I'm pretty sure it requires a nvidia GPU
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>>42783473
>I'm pretty sure it requires a nvidia GPU
nvm it appears that amd is supported and nvidia has some features missing kek
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>>42783473
>>42783480
it works on Intel and AMD for me. Haven't tried it on NVIDIA.
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>>42782880
Don't forget about the *NIX™ Soul™ desktop
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>>42782858
Pick KDE and never look back.
I don't hate XFCE but it broke when symlinking fonts from Windows drive.
GNOME is a piece of shit
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>>42779694
>His viewpoints are too "problematic" for the dystopian society we have in current year.
The irony is that he's a hardcore leftist himself, but he's also autistic and extremely rational, which is not allowed.
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I'm wanting to get into laser shit like vidrel, any of you have experience or know where to start? Not bothered about it being professional, it's just for a little fun.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IevBmc9C_nE
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>>42784023
Many years ago I DIYd a single color laser projector. Now you can probably just buy one from china way cheaper.
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Is game dev talk allowed here? Once the game jam thread dies is everyone cool with me potentially showing off pony related game assets and stuff if I'm working on something dumb and fun or would that be better off elsewhere?
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>>42785222
sure, any tech project is on-topic and vidya is certainly tech
also checked
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>>42783984
>extremely rational, which is not allowed.
Yeah, this pretty much. The nu-left is composed entirely of irrational emotion-based arguments. I'm not even that much right wing myself, but it is this kind of behavior that basically drove me to that side, as it seems to have done for a lot of people, at least until (when/if?) the left unfucks itself.
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is GTK doomed to be ebassi'd into irrelevancy?
>GTK4 is barely used outside of Gnome ecosystem
>GTK5 is planned to drop support for X11 which is insane even if it releases in 2030s
>push for libadwaita to kill theming is just pathetic, especially with libadapta being available
can the Mint Team fork GTK3/4 and do their own thing? Will DEs just switch to Qt when GTK5 gets released?
>>42783984
>>42785673
tbf any leftist ideology requires irrational/"emotional" base to function so their move towards absolute insanity makes sense
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>>42782858
It mostly doesn't matter very much. If you ever get annoyed with your pick you can always install another one and try it out, as long as you have a login manager installed you can easily select between any number of installed DEs when logging in.
Imo GNOME is fucking horrible but everything else is fair game.

>seems a bit bloated
Unironically a meme, unless you're actually trying to run a pre-2012 laptop or something with 4GB max RAM and a core2duo CPU. For any normal computer the DE "weight" doesn't matter.
If you really want minimalism then configure a WM and do everything yourself, but if you can't be bothered (which is extremely reasonable) then it doesn't really matter too much.
KDE is fine. XFCE is fine too. Most of them are pretty customisable. LXDE is geared towards being as lightweight as possible for running on actual ancient toasters, so it might make compromises you don't need, but otherwise isn't bad.
I've never used most other DEs because there's no reason to try them all, unless you really want to try something new.

>>42782900
MATE is a full DE. I have no idea if it's still maintained though since it was mainly used by Ubuntu and it hasn't used it in quite a while by now.
Something is a DE basically when it's more than a WM. Common things included in DEs are desktop management (background, shortcuts, etc.), power management, monitor management (e.g. automatic multimonitor), panels and taskbars, and the tray icons. A WM literally only just manages your windows, so everything up to and including taskbar has to be your own (though some WMs come with companion bars). There's probably a grey area where something might be a "featureful WM" vs. a "really barebones DE" but in practice there isn't really anything like that that exists, DEs are all proper DEs and everything that's not a DE is mostly just a WM alone.
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>>42786019
nta but I should note that LXDE/Qt is pretty much the only DE that has no companion WM/WC
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>>42786047
What do you mean? As in it's window management isn't standalone?
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>>42786057
they don't have one
KDE has kwin, Gnome has Mutter, Cinnamon has Muffin, etc
LXDE/LXQt project doesn't develop their own Window Manager nor their own Wayland Compositor: they expect you to pick one yourself
(preferably Openbox for X11 and labwc for Wayland, others are possible; for example Debian by default picks XFWM for X11)
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>>42786074
Oh right I see what you mean. That's neat, I didn't know that.
>they expect you to pick one yourself
I've never seen an LXDE installation packaged without a WM, but yeah I guess the distro picks in that case.
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>>42786019
Ah, I didn't really mean bloated in the system requirements sense, I'm not really into minimalism. I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something. Something like Xfce looks easier to focus for my autistic mind. Since >>42783428 says Cinnamon looks like W7 I might try that one out, might be a good balance.
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>>42786081
>Oh right I see what you mean. That's neat, I didn't know that.
it can potentially be pretty useful for Wayland because they target wlroots-based compositors
imagine having a DE that's specifically made for all your autistic WCs like niri. That's pretty cool
>I've never seen an LXDE installation packaged without a WM
well you can't really do shit in X without a WM so
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>>42786106
>I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something
you can theme it into something more "comfy" but I understand what you mean
also since Plasma 6 KDE now has W11's floating panel by default kek
>Cinnamon looks like W7 I might try that one out, might be a good balance.
it's W7 but with "flat" design. Looks pretty good imo
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>>42786108
>well you can't really do shit in X without a WM so
And yet you can usually install X without installing a WM. The fact that it's impractical doesn't mean package managers bundle one in, you generally still install one yourself.
Granted I've never installed LXDE from scratch (I've only used it once that I remember, a long while ago, and I think it was literally just Lubuntu) so maybe it's the same and the WM just came preinstalled so I didn't notice.

>>42786106
>I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something
I'm honestly not sure what people mean when they say that, though it seems to be a common opinion so there must be something to it. The DE provides desktop icons, a taskbar and a standard tray area. XFCE provides pretty much the same, most DEs provide pretty much the same. KDE mostly has more features and more settings for them all, but you don't really see them if you don't use them. Is it just the size of the settings menu that makes it look complex?

Also, if you really want something targeting fewer features and a more minimal UI, that's kind of GNOME's modus operandi, so you might unironically actually enjoy it. You can give it a try if you feel like it.
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>>42786134
>Also, if you really want something targeting fewer features and a more minimal UI, that's kind of GNOME's modus operandi, so you might unironically actually enjoy it. You can give it a try if you feel like it.
Anon, don't recommend literal poison to fellow anons

Mate is pretty "minimal" (because it's Gnome 2 lol) and looks like WinXP
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What's the point of Xebian?
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>>42785783
Funnily enough, just yesterday EasyEffects suddenly switched from GTK4 to Qt. It's uglier now in a way that most KDE programs aren't, it might get some polish but it's a set and forget type of program so in the end - whatever.
>can the Mint Team fork GTK3/4 and do their own thing?
I am worried for how much they're putting on their plate, but it seems like they'll eventually need to do this together with other Gnome descendants, see e.g. Xapp projects.
>>42786169
>Welcome to Xebian! The goal of this project is to make an Xfce Debian based system that is much like Xubuntu.
Which, indeed, doesn't sound like a reason worth creating a distinct OS for, at least in my book.
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>>42784023
>laserpon3
>video unlisted
another faggot who ditched the very fandom that put his career into motion
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>>42782858
>>42783022
>>42783428
>>42783729
I have to say I don't understand why people don't like gnome.
To me it's the only DE that's decent.
KDE is just so inconsistent with spacings being a mess, the whole DE feeling like a sheet of paper, werir paradigms like clicking apply for every single little thing. It feel wonky.
Xfce has the same issue where everything is just so damn small ans fractional scaling just does not work, same "paper sheet" feel to everything.
Cinnamon is neat, but so far they have zero real Wayland support, but you can make cinnamon pretty good, literally gnome if the devs weren't utter idiots.

It's true that gnome, by default is very barren, but I kinda like having one wallpaper and top bar, or even not a top bar at all with extensions. To me it's a lot less stressful to look at one big empty wallpaper unless I am doing work.
The only things I hate with gnome are its' developpers and their backwards stubbornness on preventing me from theming things and odd decisions, like: why no volume mixer? Why no tray icons or something to show me what apps run on the background, why weird client side decorations, why does nautilus shows me copy progress as an jtty bitty tiny spinner that has extreme delay so I can't know if the file is copied or not.
Overall, to me, gnome is the only DE where the UX is there but the UI makes weird decisions. While other desktop UXs were really never thought out from a user's perspective at all or very little.
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>>42785783
I don't think it's all too bad. What's stopping them from just sticking to GTK3? GTK4 doesn't even see any adoption outside of GNOME.
Mint Team feels competent enough to figure this out.
XFCE is in a pretty good condition too.
I'd worry about MATE as it is hardly being worked on.
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>>42786887
ebussyposting doesn't tip you off?
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>>42786845
>I have to say I don't understand why people don't like gnome.
It's shit.
It shits on established user interface paradigms.
It is not configurable at all, and I'm not even talking about ricing.
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>>42786845
>I don't understand why people don't like GNOME
>Proceeds to list all the problems with GNOME
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>>42786896
I honestly cannot believe that this person would have a partner. It must be the ugliest hambeast and/or tranny imaginable, there is no other way.
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>>42786845
I have two issues with it.
The first is basically what you described with it being barren and following a very, very specific vision that I don't agree with. Basically if you like the design philosophy of the GNOME devs, then it's a great and well polished product, but if you disagree on any aspect whatsoever, their position is you should get fucked and die. That kind of approach doesn't really make me want to use it since I don't agree with a lot of the design decisions.

The second issue with GNOME is that because it's quite big and popular, the devs basically believe that they are the "default Linux desktop". It also gets corporate funding to match that - people complain about KDE having some bugs but KDE gets an absolute fraction of the funding that GNOME does, every time a big corpo wants to virtue signal they send a couple millions in $ to one of either the Linux Foundation itself - or GNOME (through FreeDesktop, I think).
But the funding itself isn't the issue, it's what they do with it. Since the GNOME philosophy is that if you disagree you should get fucked and die, and also that they are the default Linux desktop, these combine to basically make GNOME come up with standards that it expects everyone else to follow. The CSD debacle is an excellent example of this; GNOME believes windows should draw their own titlebars, using helper GTK components they supply for this purpose. This means that software that's not using GTK, or even not using a framework in the first place, has to pull in a GTK library JUST to display correctly on GNOME - else it won't have a titlebar. This is literally only needed on GNOME, not a single other DE does this; but because GNOME is the most well-funded, have close ties to corporate linux like RedHat and also by extension Canonical, and as a result have positioned themselves as the "default" despite all their issues, they have the ability to strongarm developers like that by just unilaterally forcing new standards and saying "if you don't follow them you'll be broken under GNOME, and you don't want that, do you?".

So for example I, as a non-GNOME user, am affected because for example Factorio started shipping with a GTK library just to make GNOME work. Yeah it's a small thing, but now it's bundled in the binary for everyone everywhere, just because GNOME says if you don't adhere to their personal preferences you can get fucked and die, they won't even give you a simplistic default. So now that library is bundled for every user just because of GNOME.
This is parasitism pure and simple, as far as GNOME is concerned, nothing exists but GNOME. If all other DEs died tomorrow they'd be incredibly happy because it would "reduce fragmentation", and in the meantime they do their best to pretend they don't exist. And this spills over and affects everyone else.
So as a non-GNOME user, it still affects me when people use GNOME, and it's in my personal best interests for fewer people to use GNOME. Which is insane.
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>>42787107
>"if you don't follow them you'll be broken under GNOME, and you don't want that, do you?".
We just need to create a culture where doing this is actually considered a plus. It already is for me. Being the "default" corpo option doesn't win you any points in my book.
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>>42787124
There is already such a culture, the problem is that it's far from the majority. Most people don't use an OS as a hobby, they use it as a tool, sometimes even a tool they're not particularly interested in. So they use whatever the IT department provides, and when some window looks wrong, they assume the application is broken. Or they want to escape windows and install whatever gets recommended to them first, which is often GNOME because it's already so ubiquitous, and they don't give it any second though and when something looks wrong they assume the application is broken, etc.
Even the anon I'm replying to who doesn't think GNOME is perfect still doesn't see anything wrong with using GNOME and therefore probably either didn't know or doesn't care about their parasitism.

As long as they continue receiving millions in donations, and being the default DE in Ubuntu and in every RedHat distro, there will always remain a critical mass of people who just use whatever's the default or most popular and don't care about technical details like "your default DE refuses to implement standard protocols for zero technical reason, so we're not broken, you are".
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>>42787158
That only sounds like a problem when interacting with normies though. In my asshole opinion, I don't think normies should be using Linux in the first place. Or at least not without accepting they will need to adapt, not the other way around.
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>>42787181
Opinions are opinions but the fact of the matter is that the majority of people are normies, and that's what dictates things.
For example, you may think what you do and I think what I do (and we both agree on GNOME) but Factorio still added libdecor and added support for GNOME. They could have taken a stand and said, this is a game, we're not handling special decorations, our window just uses the default, if you don't like GNOME's default either ask them to change it or use a different DE with a better default. They could've said "normies shouldn't be using linux so stop using GNOME if you buy our game". But they didn't, they went ahead and bundled a GNOME library to cater to GNOME's bespoke requirements.
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>>42786908
>It's shit.
Its' devs and ideas on theming are, yes.
>It shits on established user interface paradigms.
How is that a bad thing? It's true that if you're used to having a start menu it's weird, i agree. But frankly I don't care about the start menu. It's just a glorified way to search for programs to me so the gnome workflow just removes an annoying popup to me.
>It is not configurable at all, and I'm not even talking about ricing.
True, that's a pity. Without fuckinf with dconf it's barren, I agree. Not having a way to minimize / close windows is annoying.
>>42787107
Exactly this, while I like the workflow, this behavior of theirs is absolutely baffling to me.
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>>42787276
>How is that a bad thing?
Computers are tools, not toys. We have decades of studies on ergonomics, we know what works. Gnome just invented a brand new interface with no good reason or justification, just to be different and "modern".
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>>42787331
You know what, that's fair.
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>2025
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
Why is there nothing that allows you to try all the different DEs/WMs I'm not going to download all of these to try them all
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>>42786850
>What's stopping them from just sticking to GTK3?
GTK3 will reach EOL when GTK5 gets released
>>42787007
>tranny imaginable
^:)
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>>42787399
I think Mageia allows it.
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>>42787276
The start menu was a revolution back in 1995 for a reason. People like it because they find it intuitive and organized. Removing it because of "muh microsoft can't be good must do it our own way" NIH syndrome is anti-user behavior.
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>>42787495
I'm not saying it's not. Just, I never found it really useful. Then again I was always used to macos where you open spotlight to look for what you need, or Sherlock back in, kek.
Even though I have used windows for a long longer than macos.
Idk, I guess since I'm not the best at reading text on a screen it just feels easier to muscle memory it up by just typing the name of the program then enter.
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Been a hectic, but fun, past week
Got dwm all configured to my liking on my new x220T, but the battery i orderd had what appeared to be some glue/gunk lodged in between some of the slots, so I got a new genuine battery coming in this Monday, hopefully it lasts
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horsefucker.club anon, get your certificates verified so i can use your email in aerc, or, does anyone have a workaround? does anyone here use aerc? what email clients do (You) use on there
https://aerc-mail.org/
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>>42788395
Eh I'm boring, thunderbirds both mobile and desktop. It works, it integrates with nextcloud. All good
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>>42787870
What problems would ponies attempt to solve with technology?
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>>42788434
cucked... alright, yea, GUI it is then
cause there ain't no way in hell im using ANY other email
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I still need to make that fucking Gopher post, bump.
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>>42786169
I was going to try it out but they don't sign their releases. After the Xubuntu debacle, that's a hard nope from me.
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So recently, I thought my monitor power brick died; I cut out the connector for later use but it turns out it was the connector that was broken (it's shorted somewhere inside). The powerbrick seems fine.

The question is: is it a good idea to reuse the powerbrick? It was basically nonstop shorted for a few days. There's obviously some kind of fuse inside since it wasn't even getting hot and it works fine now. But still, I'm not sure if I should just solder on a new connector and keep going business as usual.

It's pretty old (~14 years) and I already have new one ordered but it won't be here for a couple of days
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>>42790869
I good SMPS has built in short protection and shut down for protection.
One without would have gotten fried anyways and be unusable by now.
Just measure voltage when you've soldered on the new connector and you should be fine.
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>>42790905
Thanks, I did so, works like a charm
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>>42791260
>BMS pony
>stays in charge heh of those suspiciously affordable 18650 ponies you buy from Ali(corn)Express
>they're practically putting themselves in your cart, how could you not take them home
>BMS is a little bit crosseyed due to constantly looking out for health of each battery cell
>she's no klutz though, mind you; she promised (You) she'll stop these giddy fillies from getting too excited if you accidentally short them
>great companion for DIY projects
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i need dwm mare, ponified dwm
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>>42778617
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finally decided to get a screen replacement for my google pixel 3a today, the screen was completely useless, but the phone apparently works, paid the deposit today, and dropping it for same day pickup on Thursday
it has grapheneOS installed onto it, it's going to be fun seeing what horsefuckery nostalgia i left on it years ago
most definitely intimate videos of me and my lifesize encrypted on that thing
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>>42793403
can you still get graphene os on 3a? I was thinking of getting a 5a5g (has a headphone jack) but I thought it was no longer supported
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>>42780622
I like her.
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>>42793508
NTA, it's not supported anymore, but you still have the lts version that's basically just whatever Android version they stopped at.
I'd say maybe don't get a 5a 5g if it's anything like the 4a 5g (and it seems so looking at the SoC) it's kinda sluggish in grapheneOS, get LOS4microG or calyx on there instead the experience will be better, not as snappy as anything with a high refresh rate, but definitely better than graphene.
The main thing causing this slow down is graphene's way of spawning processes which doesn't allow caching / branching from one PID. Instead every app needs to spawn its own PID.
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>>42793802
which browser is that
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>>42793820
Epiphany aka GNOME Web, perhaps?
>web browser pony
>loves travelling, but obviously prefers to call it "surfing the web"
>quick at making friends with web server ponies, familiar with all the TCP/TLS hoofshakes used around the world
>she'll bring (You) cookies given away by friendly server ponies to their visitors, if you tell her you'd like those
>wears the toppest of hats to fit all the headers needed for proper communication
>somewhat of an artist herself, as a filly liked coloring books, nowadays paints pictures for (You) from HTML and CSS
>sometimes gets overwhelmed if server pones start telling her incredibly deep JS stories, but if you give her time she'll eventually get it and explain it to you
>practices strict hygiene routine, because she doesn't want to accidentally bring you some virus from foreign countries
>would love to be your whole world, but she'd feel bad about stealing your entire attention from other softmares, some of which literally let her do her job
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>>42793508
i looked into what GrapheneOS has been up to since I've been away from using the project, and yea, apparently the 3a is not officially supported, but from what I read, still able to run
I'm hoping, once the screen is fixed, it will just turn on with no issues, and I mean, it should anyway
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Steam Frame looks cool. I didn't fully expect them to go with ARM Linux for a standalone VR headset supposed to run x86 Windows + ARM Android games locally. So many things to go wrong, yet they're not playing it safe.
It's also nice that it's not marketed as a closed off VR only machine, but instead they mention it can be a general purpose computer, runs Arch ARM + KDE, and again they're contributing stuff to FEX instead of building completely proprietary solutions.
>captcha: DR4P0N
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>>42794450
Yeah, I'm pretty hyped for it! Can't wait to run containers in my VR headset. In a closet. Connected to a bunch of drives.
then take it off to just chill in Equestria
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>>42794450
It's a fucking Oculus clone, get outta here.
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>>42794450
it's apparent open nature already makes Meta's toys obsolete
hope pricing isn't shit
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>>42794450
Yeah I've been considering getting an Index for a while especially since the Frame doesn't have outside-in tracking but I watched Linus' video and if it really is that good I'll probably just wait for the Frame now, the x86-on-ARM part is interesting and it being way more portable would be neat. Also the Index still costs 1k so even if the Frame is around that it'll be a way better value. Again all provided the tracking can actually compete. To be fair I have never used VR so I might not notice anyways but outside-in is supposed to be superior.
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>>42794503
Get a second-hand Index, camera tracking is a joke.
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>>42794478
Personally I have less trust for Meta to not take the opportunity of cameras on a headset. It's literally free money with some sick gainz profiling/advertising scheme, they just need to come up with one. Valve has a cleaner business model, they sell games and CS2 gambling as a gray area side hustle, kek. Also, if I'm not mistaken you were forced to have a FB/Oculus account to use the headset (=> connect it to internet, accept some ToS, whatever), and of course the bootloader was locked except for some exploit. https://github.com/darknight1050/quest-bootloader-unlocker
Tinfoil hat aside, I did treat those Android Quest headsets as just VR toys from a sketchy company. The "it's just a computer, lol" of Deck was appealing to me, and I like how this sounds in Frame too, even though I'll probably only use it for Beat Saber and maybe Jellyfin.
>>42794503
I have an Index and one thing I thought I'd miss would be the straps in Knuckles controllers, but apparently they'll sell those separately. Sigh, but I'm still relieved - I really liked how I could loosen the palm in SteamVR Home, grab a plush giraffe from shelf in that default environment, stretch it to be big and pretend I'm petting or booping a pony.
I didn't do that often, but it was still a mesmerizing experience every single time.
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>>42794524
I'll wait for reviews for sure.

>>42794526
Seeing the straps on the controllers and the fact they still have the finger tracking is definitely also nudging me more to the Frame.
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>>42794503
Potentially shitty tracking aside, by going mobile/ARM they conceded VR to being just for gimmick casual games like beat saber.
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>>42794728
They claim to have better wireless streaming from PC by reducing resolution outside of areas where your eyes are focused, that foveated streaming thing. I've always considered streaming like on Quest to be a hack rather than proper solution for those headsets, whether wireless or wired, but we'll see in reviews whether it's as bad. So far saw good first impressions, they include a 6 GHz AP in a USB stick which makes it seem they believe in their approach.
Same concerns as with tracking, honestly. I wish it had OLED too. Pricing will matter a lot. But anyway,
>remember, no preorders.
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>>42793360
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>>42793403
tomorrow is the day, pixel 3a back soon!
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>>42794728
You are not supposed to play "serious" games on your headset, not now, not ever. The Quest is casualcore to the max. The Frame seems to be focusing primarily on wireless streaming, and I wouldn't be surprised if doing that well required enough processing power that getting it to a point of being able to play lightweight games standalone didn't require too much extra effort and weight, so why not.
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>>42795896
>You are not supposed to play "serious" games on your headset, not now, not ever.
There was still a glimmer of hope with the release of Index and Hlalyx...
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>>42795916
Ok my phrasing wasn't ideal, but the conversation was about the Frame having an ARM CPU so I was hoping the context would make it clear. My point is that you can't play Alyx on an Index, you play it on your PC and you just use the Index as a display. That's what I meant when saying you're not supposed to play serious games on the headset itself.
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my 2012 15" marebook pro. ive posted her before on here but i wanted to post her again since she was an ewaste rescue. bought her alongside 4 other macbook pros for $20 a piece and all that was wrong with it was an expanded battery. another $20 for a used oem battery later and she's like new. The battery was at 85% capacity, so not exactly like new, but it lasts long enough to get several hours out of it. ive been using it more frequently recently to get more of a feel of using it as opposed to my smaller elitebook, and despite its age its pretty good. havent done any upgrades besides the ram and ssd. she also runs macos sequoia, and runs it a lot better than i expected. havent tried tahoe yet, but i might do a trial run of it on another ssd in the future.
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>>42797007
>Apple
kill yourself
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>>42797007
>OCLP
Right as I was about to suggest it, kek.
Nice appul
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>>42797007
>shinodage
Based filly belly enjoyer
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>>42788844
Probably depends on how much superior/limited magic is. Enchanted item is potentially
zero waste and infinitely recyclable. But mechanical/electrical equipment might
be cheaper since you don't need unicorn for production. Could be relatively simpler as well
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>>42796866
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>>42797007
very nice anon, she quiet?
right now a 2011 11 inch marebook air looks comfy, and being able to actually fit it into my backpack's dedicated laptop bag, the best part
maybe i'll get one soon
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>>42798239
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[[[ To any PSA and FIP agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the Equestrian Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowmare's example. ]]]
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>>42799064
Goddamn autowrap
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Kirinstash01 is down one raid disk. Don't buy cheap chinese ssd's. This was a silicon power branded thing that died.
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Problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23dFb50Z2Y
Solution:
https://missing.csail.mit.edu/about/
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>>42799830
>hooves
Whatever did she do to those ponies?
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>>42797033
i main windows and android on pretty much everything else.
>>42797041
>>42797293
thanks ^:)
>>42798310
she tends to roar a bit more than an unmodified mac solely due to the fact that i use macs fan control in order to keep her cool. traditional mac fan curves only really kick on when it gets extraordinarily hot. for the most part she stays around 2000-2500 rpm when just using the browser, but tends to kick on a little bit when loading stuff at times. i dont push her too hard so i rarely hear anything close to a jet engine.
>2011 11 inch marebook air
if you had known me two months ago this wouldve been perfect, because i sold one of those on facebook back then. all it needed was a new battery and it was good to go. sucks that it was the 64gb storage variant though, but those were able to be "upgraded" if needed. never actually had one in person and was completely thrown off by its size and proportions
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>>42798701
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>be me
>in a dream
>my PC's Windows setup breaks
>contact Microsoft Support team
>get teleported to India
>endless field of cubicles full of jeets
>they can't tell me what's wrong with my computer
>ask for a manager
>"welcome to one of the two Microsoft Support teams, how can I help you?"
>"tell me where's the other support team"
>"oh it's in Northern India"
>wake up
Why the fuck is Luna giving me Indian nightmares? I haven't used Windows in over five years. Hell, I don't even funpost with SAAAAR and REDEEEEM
What kind of bullshit is this?
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>>42801312
Can't say our moon princess doesn't have humor.
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>>42788238
how come you got the swivel?
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>>42791260
look at that little goober, so hard at work
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>>42793871
fukken saved, this is so cute and fantastic
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>>42801312
it took her a long time to set up all those cubicles anon, give her some credit
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>>42799064
gem
do any of you actually add a similar disclaimer to your emails
also is the original from rms or FSF
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>>42802158
>also is the original from rms or FSF
rms only, others aren't THAT autistic
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>>42799064
What did snowmare leak? Is this why she has to live in snowhorse land?
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>>42788238
man I do not miss 1366*768
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>>42786887
At least two
>>42803282
Man I remember using those iMacs back in primary school. Used to play some typing game on them.
Do I spy a Vapor Trail plush?
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>>42803314
maybe
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Migrated from Mint Cinnamon to Debian KDE. Should've done it earlier.
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>>42803593
welcome, brother
what made you switch? javascript:;
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>>42803598
>javascript:;
accidentally copypasted some <script> element but Cinnamon's use of Javascript is a valid reason to switch kek
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>>42803598
GTK File picker being only in detail mode and lacking thumbnails
Laptop lid setting was not respected, it would shut down despite setting it to do nothing when the lid is closed down
Archiver is a joke, you can't even select individual files with just holding down your mouse button. You have to hold ctrl and then click on what you want to pull out or do ctrl + a. (PeaZIP exists but it's slower in general use, Ark is better). The archiver situation is the typical GNOME behavior of forcing keyboard shortcuts combined with mouse when nobody asked for it.
Lack of proper screen scaling (you can force it but you get tearing. I need it on a laptop display because 1080p on 12" is an unfunny joke).
I don't get why Wayland gets so much shit. It just works.
Cinnamon, MATE and XFCE despite being good at a first glance will struggle with transitioning to GTK4 and Wayland, in the long term making them obsolete. I kind of wonder why there are hardly any Qt desktops, but then I'm reminded of how lightweight KDE can actually be.
I'm curious to try Debian + TDE on my Core2 Duo laptop.
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>>42803644
>transitioning to Wayland
lol
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>>42803644
>will struggle with transitioning to GTK4 and Wayland
Usecase for GTK4?
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>>42803644
>I don't get why Wayland gets so much shit. It just works.
Mostly technical reasons, and for a long time it didn't "just work" and everyone involved seemed to be allergic to making it just work. As far as I'm aware by now a lot of things have indeed finally gotten smoothed over, it just still has its reputation from years past.
Also, the fact that "wayland is a protocol", and in fact wayland is a barebones central protocol with tons of important functionality defined in a large collection of extra protocols that are all optional; and that individual desktops basically have to re-implement everything since wayland itself is just the protocol, not a fully functional display server; means that there will always be differences in functionality and compatibility. But, thankfully, this too has mostly gotten quite alright with time, with most desktops pretty much aligning on the large set of protocols that are actually necessary to make things "just work" and implementing them all.

The exception is of course as always GNOME that likes to pretend half of them don't exist and half have no usecase, but scroll up in the thread for a discussion about GNOME.
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>>42803719
Wayland is a great protocol for writing tiling window managers in rust.
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>>42803724
we need a wlroots replacement for poni Wayland compositors
niri being forced to use Drew's pedocode is absurd
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>>42803724
Are any of the openbox reimplementations in wayland usable yet? That's all I want
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>>42803972
labwc is cool I guess
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>>42803799
Hyprland wrote their own and I think that was Aquamarine but the docs say
>It is not a replacement or competitor to any other wayland compositor library (e.g. wlroots, libweston), instead implementing only the low-level KMS/DRM/etc rendering backends.
So I actually don't know if the hyprland implementation is reusable
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>>42793820
>>42793871
I thought it was generic browser but if it looks like some existing browser than that's more likely the case
>>42793871
I love those little greens
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will you protect fillies from pic rel?
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>>42805093
didn't he get caught hosting the signed open letter thing saying how rms is a pedo o algo lol
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>>42805211
yup
and that open letter made his "tendency" towards children known to /g/ and Kiwi Farms
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how come kde gets so much praise from pretty much everyone ive met who uses/promotes linux? what makes other DEs not as "great"
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>>42805843
Because people get blinded by all the eye candy and animations and bling and overlook the retarded "we need our own kprogram for everything" stance plus the occasional weird UX choices (everything needs to look exactly the same so even the tiniest helper kprogram absolutely needs a full kmenu bar with all the koptions). It looks nice and is usable but woe is you if you think something is maybe a bit much because you'll be getting it everywhere and you will be khappy. And inversely if you want to use some kprogram on a non-KDE system you better be prepared to install half the DE. Luckily some stuff like kdenlive is available as an appimage.
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>>42805093
Can I get a quick rundown on the pedo thing? I hate the motherfucker, but missed that part.
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>>42806141
This is the long rundown I think:
https://dmpwn.info/
I don't remember much so don't take me too seriously:
>Defended people being called pedos on subreddits like preteen_girls
>saying 14 year olds and above should automatically get IUD
>Was linked to platinum account on some booru where only platinum people get to see loli and shota
>and his account was also translating such content

There was also something with his bookmarks being hosted publicly, really just go read it yourself. I didn't even know who he was until this came out
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>>42806223
What about the part that Lunduke (no, I don't watch him or take him seriously) keeps saying that he wrote some "pedo" software?
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>>42806264
He might be referring to the SauceHunt reddit bot that reverse searched images and was running on subreddit(s?) focused on lolis, some of which were banned for pedo content but it might besomething else
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>>42805843
Basically there are two DEs which are considered the biggest, most mature and most featureful, and those are gnome and kde. We've already discussed gnome at length in this thread, there's some people who enjoy its very particular UX decisions and do not care about its EEE technical approach, but generally among the demographic that is autistic enough to compare and praise linux desktops that view is not very common. So that just leaves KDE as the main option.
The other desktops are not necessarily bad, but they're considered "smaller", with fewer features, slower development, etc. Xfce is another well-liked one but it's had very slow development for years now, and I think its wayland support is lacking for example - which some may not care about but in general wayland is getting close to being pretty usable, especially outside of gnome, and it does offer some features that x11 simply doesn't (such as HDR). I'm not sure of all the other DEs individually but basically they're all smaller and less popular and more niche for one reason or another.

>>42805887
>we need our own kprogram for everything
It's basically what gnome does, except all the gnome programs are GTK and all the KDE programs are Qt. I think it's nice that we basically have non-GTK alternatives for pretty much all the basic utility programs you might want, so I can keep GTK use down to a minimum on my system.
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>>42806321
>It's basically what gnome does, except all the gnome programs are GTK and all the KDE programs are Qt
There's a huge difference between kprograms and programs made with Qt. It's the K part that pulls in all the bloat.
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>>42805093
I hate that fuckers like this look so much like I used to look. I need to change my entire appearance just to not look like this walking stereotype.
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>>42806223
>witchhunt for some guy who likes to look at loli
Guess the "free, libertarian" open source community took a nosedive like the rest of the world.
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>>42806385
The only scummy thing he did was accuse someone else of being a pedophile when he clearly has the same inclination. However, it should be enough to just point that out (or just say "we know you have some skeletons in your closet too so shut it") since there's nothing illegal about having unsavory opinions or even looking at lolicon, but the article ends with the request for the entire open source community to cancel him, despite all of this making zero difference as to the actual merit of his contributions to the open source projects he works on. All of this said by a person who hides behind a Protonmail email address, as well.
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>>42806397
Domain name also maintained by "Privacy service provided by Withheld for Privacy ehf". Should tell you a lot about how much this person stands behind these claims if they need to cover their tracks this badly.
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>>42806397
>despite all of this making zero difference as to the actual merit of his contributions to the open source projects he works on
What merits? Drew is a danger to open source. He's an unhinged leftist good boy hell bent on cancelling anyone who doesn't agree with him.
Just read his fucking blog.
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>>42806401
>source code suddenly tainted when written by undesirables
Good goy, you're being very useful.
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>>42806401
I'm just tired of people trying to cancel others while hiding in the shadows themselves.

This entire thing is a nothingburger except for the fact he himself accused RMS. But that article is cancer incarnate that only the biggest moralfag would agree with.
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>>42806405
I know this is some retarded bait.
But YES. Accepting commits from trannies, their supporters and corporations is what killed open source.
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>>42806416
Says the guy who probably never contributed a single piece of code to the open source community himself.
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>>42806382
he looks like a soijak
were you a walking soijak?
>>42806385
>>42806397
Drew is a nuance that fucks with every single project he encounters
he spent YEARS fighting against Stallman because there's no GNU CoC Hyprland because devs were funposting and he thinks that makes them nazis
I read some gemini capsules this year and many of them still talk about that one drama where he tried to nuke everyone who dared to implement favicons
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>>42806598
>CoC Hyprland
CoC and fought against Hyprland
there's also some stuff about X11 users being "fascist" because people who don't want to use Wayland are conservationist and conservatism is literally fascism!!1
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>>42806603
>conservationist
fuck autocomplete and fuck me
conservatives
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>>42806397
>>42806405
He spends a ton of effort slandering and trying to cancel others. An eye for an eye is unironically not unjustified here.
Moreover, I think the entire point was that he was the one crusading against "pedophilia". Most people not in the same echo chamber don't care. By calling for him to be cancelled for pedophilia, it's basically a call directly to his own audience; if they turn on him, it's entirely their problem if they are so prone to infighting and eating their own.
Simply put, if he hadn't spend years whipping up a mob to cancel undesirables then there wouldn't have been a mob ready to cancel him as soon as his record got tainted. So it's fully his problem.
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>>42806321
Oh gnome programs pulling in half their ecosystem is equally as annoying, I just wanted to point out some annoyances with KDE because as Anon said it for some reason tends to avoid catching strays nowadays when it definitely isn't perfect either. In the end I install what I want and mix & match anyways so I still end up with KDE and gnome stuff in my system (though I tend to try and look for packages with less new dependencies). I don't really care for the DE wars, both have useful and less useful stuff. E.g. kdenlive is a godsend but I don't want to live without the gnome system monitor either.
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besides the iMac g3 I now have two more iMacs for projects. got both for only $60 on Facebook plus a spare mobo. both shouldn't be too hard to fix based on what I was told
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>>42807539
>anon attempts to build an odd looking unicorn summoning circle thing
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Just learned about the thread. Working on iMac G3 and PowerMac G4. Would like to get them connected to the modern Internet for pony based shitposting, but TLS is a problem and I don't want to go through a proxy.
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>>42807629
I SUMMON THEE UNICORNICUS INTELLIGUS
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holy shit it worked
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>>42807773
holy shit anon
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>>42807773
wtf I love Apple now
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Introducing my latest project: GlimGlamLang - a programming language pushing the limits of minimalism

It is so "easy" that it can be learned entirely in just ten minutes. It is so simple it does not even have numbers built in! The user have full freedom to define them! Numbers can be also imported from standard library, one by one. So the first task is to build language primitives with which one can make anything remotely useful. This machinery is known as "lambda calculus", and it is copied directly from wikipedia.

Did this programming language sound brain dead enough? Try it online here!
https://tolvanea.github.io/glim_glam_lang/
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>>42808009
now code doom with it
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>he still uses windows in 2026
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>>42809007
>we are the resistance
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>>42808009
>online lambda calculus interpreter
actually pretty cool
too bad I'm too brainlet to do anything with it
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What's the point of altboorus if all of them run on cloudflare?
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>>42809264
To not be derpibooru.
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>>42809082
>Platinum
>Microsoft
>Gold
>Google
Considering how much each company invests in Linux for its own products this is odd.
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the aliexpress store seems to have delivered a legit product
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>>42809082
>microsoft spends their money on their competitor because it's is literally the only sane option for azure
lol
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>>42810029
Eeeh you checked it wasn't just an IHS and a substrate with zero silicon?
Or literally just the IHS slapped onto an athlon?
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>https://rebble.io/2025/11/17/core-devices-keeps-stealing-our-work.html
>https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-rebble-and-a-path-forward
Initially I thought it's dumb drama, but there's some merit to Rebble's lack of trust here. People banded together to keep those lovely watches alive, to let people write (pony) software for them for years while Pebble was gone. Now they risk Eric taking over their interim work, making them less necessary to keep existing, and if in a few years the company disappears they'd have to do plenty of their 2016+ work again. To me it feels like Core should figure something out to be more of a hardware provider in the long run, and make the software + services a community thing.
It's also hilarious and pathetic that the new black&white Pebble which reused old Pebble 2's design has buttons fail within the 30 day warranty. What the fuck, mare. Maybe it's old stock of buttons, but I get that distrustful anon's opinion even more now.
Still hoping for PT2 to be a good watch.
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>>42809007
id let silver spoon bully me over that yeah. but i use all three operating systems at various times so dont know what'd come out of that.
so anyway, cloudflare amirite? first AWS a month ago and now this. whats next for december?
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>>42811032
>all three operating systems
Linux, Windows and BSD?
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>>42811037
you know what im talking about
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>>42778665
bruh have you seen the absolute dogshit RMS posts on fedi? He's one of the wokiest wokes of them all https://mastodon.xyz/@rms
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>>42811057
>fedi
these are automated reposts of his political notes (stallman.org)
he is a hard lefty (who WILLINGLY continues to live in fucking Boston), but he's too oldschool for modern leftists (he autistically uses gender-neutral "per" instead of "they" because it bugs him that "they" breaks English, some troons hate him for that)
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>>42810667
lmao what a fucking kike, I knew it was gonna go down like this
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>>42811044
Derpian, PonyOS and PonyDOS?
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>>42810667
Honestly I think at a high level you'd be right but it also sounds like Rebble is trying to keep things restrictive. Reading eric's response - why not just publish an archive of the app store on archive.org? And in rebble's blogpost they complain about a "relicensing"... to AGPLv3. Like my guy you licensed your OWN code with a cuck license, if you didn't want this to happen you could have explicitly used a better license. If Eric pushes for copyleft licensing I'm all for it.

In fact I bet the entire drama would be resolved if everything was AGPL'd and the data was CC BY-SA'd or something. The entire spat is because Rebble has some MIT licensed shit that they want to control with agreements (despite putting on a cuck license), and then has some data that they apparently want to keep proprietary.
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>>42809007
Yes.
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>>42811057
I'd rather listen to a hardcore leftist than a feminist at any time, especially when it comes to tech. Women are unwanted here, they only ever bring drama.

>But I know a woman that
Yeah, there's always one. In a crowd of thousands upon thousands of highly technical, rational and autistic males. They're an extreme exception and should realize that when you enter a male-dominated space you adapt to the culture there. I don't give a shit about society assigning them a protected status.

Captcha: MMADN
No, just tired.
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>>42811502
Yeah, I agree with you. On Eric's side, it'd suck to have to build additional software catalog from scratch. On Rebble's side they should "let it go" and just upload this to archive.org like Eric proposes so that everyone can benefit, but I don't want them to lose their reason to exist and eventually disperse, if in future Core goes dark.
On the third hoof (which reminds me how superior ponyspeak is for convoluted discussions), I was under the impression that Eric wanted to keep the software ecosystem (firmware at least) more open, not belonging to a single company again. Rebble as a rather stable community (although Katharine left recently due to Core drama boiling, rip kinda /ourgal/) not bound to a company could be a neutral "owner" of legacy and future of these watches, without financial incentives that can turn things sour. Reminds me of some nonprofit structures that govern bigger FOSS projects.
On the fourth hoof, I assume Eric fears he'll get cheaper clones of his watches on AliExpress within a few months that will run the same firmware. But then I'd ask what's his goal - keep Core alive, or keep Pebbles alive? It's really, really great that his company managed to provide new hardware hopefully with unfucked buttons on Time 2, and both Core and Rebble invested time and money into firmware development. Core did provide a hearty breath of new life in the concept of Pebble-style watches. Without both sides pulling some strings (AFAIK Rebble more than Core), the PebbleOS would still be Google's unused property, and Rebble's from-scratch firmware development would still be stuck in place, as it was for a few years.
But does Core need to exist for Pebbles to live forever? I'd say no, although I'm grateful they came back. Does Rebble need to exist for Pebbles to live forever? I'd say yes. At this point some enterprising "community" would be able to develop OS, hardware, client software and the web services. Maybe at a slower pace, but all pieces are there now.
>>42811044
That's a pretty looking Rares.
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>>42811858
There was nothing stopping Eric from open-sourcing Pebble back in the day. He's a scummy salesman. Don't trust his talk about keeping Pebble/Core open.
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>>42811858
Yeah, you make good points.
Regarding
>Eric fears he'll get cheaper clones of his watches on AliExpress within a few months that will run the same firmware
His public stance is that he is trying very very very hard not to commit to building a long-term company, making more models in the future, or even supporting these models for longer than 30 days from shipping. He can't have his cake and eat it too: either commit to running a sustainable company and (attempting to) revive first-party Pebble production in the long term, or make a "hacker device" with quasi-zero warranty, make everything open and allow others to build upon it. As a matter of fact he's explicitly mentioned a few times in his blog posts that he wants to encourage others to also build similar watches.
From a business perspective it makes sense to say this, and support "the little man" making similar small projects, but also take measures to protect against chinks selling mass market clones on aliexpress. But business is business and the fact that this is good for profit does not make it a good action to take, I agree.

But is PebbleOS going to be open source or closed? I forgot. I know Eric said he plans on being BDFL, but if it's FOSS then it can just be forked if anyone really doesn't like Eric's governance, so IMO that's a non-issue. If he explicitly plans on holding it closed source... that's worse.
And yet, again, in that case IMO the fault would lie on Rebble for making it MIT licensed, as far as I understand. MIT is so trendy nowadays and nobody likes GPL but then when shit like this happens they start crying. If Rebble had made everything (A)GPL then there would not have been an issue in the first place.

Both sides seem to be trying to maintain some measure of control - Rebble for clout and relevance, Eric because he's a techbro building a hardware startup and being pragmatic and putting business above idealism. Both sides are doing it while yelling about how much they love open-ness. And of them two, Rebble had full control for years and the option to enforce open-ness legally with proper licensing, and if they had done I don't think there would have ever even been any option for drama like this.
The only non-license-related issue I see is who hosts the developer portal and honestly it's silly, I see no reason to forbid another organisation from hosting an unofficial portal. I could register "pebble-dev.org" and make a copy of the dev portal right now myself. Eric can have his official portal and could even maybe enforce the trademark, since trademarks are very much good for businesses and not super relevant for open source projects (and Rebble has the "Rebble" brand anyway), so you could have a Pebble dev site and a Rebble dev site. They're just being petty.
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>>42811929
>nobody likes GPL
corpos don't like GPL
retards just copy corpolicensing
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>>42811044
Haiku, Plan9, Hurd?
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>>42811938
>Hurd?
GNU Hurd is a set of software for Mach microkernel
kernels are not operating systems
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>>42811943
Ok, sorry, Debian/(GNU+HURD)*Mach
But now you should be consistent and tell the same to >>42811037
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>>42811037
>Linux
Linux is a kernel that powers GNU/Linux, Android, ChromeOS and Alpine
>Windows
is a family of operating systems
>BSD
is also a family of operating systems
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>>42811979
Thank you for explaining what I already know. In common parlance, Linux is generally used to refer to a family of operating systems based on the Linux kernel.
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I'm thinking of hosting an image board of sorts (when my physical health permits) but I've been wondering about abuse. We know "that site" has features to embed cheese pizza in images. I would run a program/script to strip any metadata from any image uploaded (such as EXIF from JPEGs, ancillary data from PNGs except for certain chunks I whitelist, etc.) but is that enough to prevent this kind of stuff? I'm looking at their "secret attachment" script and it seems to use Catbox in some way, so do they just store the material on that site and embed a secret link in the image uploaded so the (likely) illegal material would never even be on my server or do they use some other technique?
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>>42812212
embeds are catbox, but it should be possible to remove them with some custom metadata removal code
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>>42812212
Are you saying images saved from this board could be tainted? I thought the post form checked for embedded data for years now, at least of some kind. But then I remember what happened in April.
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>>42812314
old embeds (sinks on /b/...) are gone
new embeds (pee) allow one to include strings of text in images (most commonly used to share catbox links with cp)
second embeds are safe 4u because catmod deletes cp from his servers
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>>42812212
Have you solved the problem of being spammed with actual cp before you solve this schizo metadata problem?
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>>42812225
Seems they also have some script that embeds things in the "lower bits" of a PNG, whatever that means. Might possibly be able to get rid of that by re-encoding the image (which I would want to implement anyway).

>>42812349
I was planning to use an AI image recognition system for that. Plus, anonymous uploads would always require approval anyway (you would be able to buy an anonymous account for like $1 with Monero which would bypass the approval system but not the image analysis, at least that's my vision for now.)
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>>42812365
>AI upload filters
lol
also what is this site-that-must-not-be-named you're talking about anyways, some sort of onions cp forum?
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>>42812212
I've never hosted anything but from chatting to other anons who have (e.g. on the fansite thread), there seems to be a clear pattern: retards, and/or FBI, tend to just spam CP in the clear. A scanning mechanism is very useful IF it can be made to work which is not at all trivial, otherwise you need a robust report system and prompt responses, and if the images are publicly browseable (e.g. an imageboard - as opposed to something catbox-like where you need the link... sans scraping but that's another issue), then you probably need active monitoring to proactively catch that shit.
And a lot of your trouble will be convincing your hosting service that you're doing due dilligence. If you can satisfy them then you're probably in the clear.

Glowies will never bother with hidden metadata when they can just spam it in the clear with infinite IPs, and actual pedos also if they're smart enough to hide it they will literally just use the most braindead obvious solution of just going to fucking dark web forums for this; the ones uploading shit on the clearnet don't care and will not bother with anything of the sort, there is simply no reason to jump through hoops like that to upload on the clearweb when there are much better alternatives out there if you're putting in the effort in the first place.

If you really want to be schizo, stripping metadata is one way, but there's generally ways to encode extra data in the image data itself, and it can be arbitrarily difficult to defend against.
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>>42812506
>lol
I don't see what's so funny about this, so please enlighten me, unless this is some brainlet opinion thinking that I believe they achieve 100% accuracy - that's not the point and you know it.

>what is this site-that-must-not-be-named
The proxy site, you know which one.

>>42812513
The site is not going to be hosted on the clearnet, so that's not really an issue in the first place. Again, all anonymous uploads would be vetted before becoming publicly available, only people with an account (which would require a small anonymous payment, which is the only realistic way to deter adversaries without significantly impairing privacy nowadays) would be allowed unchecked uploading and only if the image analysis doesn't detect that it's probably illicit material. Since there are no public "CP scanners" and I don't want to rely on glowie tech like the Internet Watch Foundation I will just have to use an NSFW scanner, which is fine because the site is only going to host SFW material anyway (sorry, gooners).
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>>42812692
By the way, interesting thing I just found: glowies hate people wanting to control their CP checks by themselves instead of offloading everything to their control SO much that they make up fake news such as this just keep everything in their own hands: https://cybernews.com/news/nudenet-dataset-contained-child-abuse-material/

Relevant quote from the article: "A child abuse charity has discovered that roughly 0.1% of the dataset is made up of child sexual abuse material."

Hmm, I wonder why a CHILD ABUSE CHARITY has such a vested interest in finding out that a service to PRIVATELY check for ANY NSFW content (including CP!) is "ummm bad ackchually".

Instead of, you know, going after the people hosting the actual damn stuff rather than the people trying to prevent its spread in the first place.
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>>42812692
>brainlet opinion
Yes, of course. It seems like a lot of effort for something that true positives are just gonna circumvent with some adversarial noise and false positives are just not going to use your site anymore over. Also are you gonna scan for copyrighted content as well?
>not going to be hosted on the clearnet
then why bother at all? Probably makes people wanting to legitimately use the site more persistent, but the others as well. At that point just manually vet everything, non-clearnet users aren't going to be worried about constantly paying you to host their cp.
>non-clearnet
>SFW
Is there a usecase userbase for this?

>The proxy site, you know which one.
The one that lets you use 4chan? How recent a development is that anyways, I've seen it referred to a couple times lately but never heard of it before.
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>>42812692
>non-clearnet
Yeah anon even worse, when there is zero way to even IP ban a user since everyone connects through a limited number of nodes and has ephemeral and instantly-resettable IDs, there are basically zero measures you can take to avoid undesirable spam. It doesn't matter how sophisticated your filtering is, you'd basically need 100% manual moderation, and if you do that you're fine.

Selling accounts for monero is probably the way to go. You can even make it a deposit - put down say $50 in Monero, use the site as much as you want, and then if you want it back you have to have no posts/activity for e.g. 30 days and if you're still not banned you can withdraw. But if you want to spam CP you'll get picked up and banned and bye bye money.
The only disadvantage is that people would need to trust your site, so it might be a hard sell for a brand new project. But you can start with something like $5-10 maybe. (Also rules-based violations that aren't egregious, so anything that's not CP or flood spamming for example, shouldn't forfeit the deposit so that there can be no accusation of admin abuse over trivial rules disagreements.)
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>>42812938
>adversarial noise
I don't know how much of a problem that is, will have to look into it. Considering it is very easily added to an image it is probably just as easily removed for the check.

>Also are you gonna scan for copyrighted content as well?
No, I don't believe in copyright for material that has been submitted to any place on the internet that allows public access. But copyrighted content would not be the primary purpose anyway, it's for pony fanart, not for sharing stuff that is being sold.

>paying you to host their cp
Are you deliberately misconstruing what I wrote?

>Is there a userbase for this?
Maybe not, but that doesn't matter, it would still be a fun project, and a small userbase would make my workload less too. I don't need it to become the darknet Derpi/4chan. Even just a couple of genuine users would be miles above a place filled with idiots like these.

>How recent a development is that anyways
Dunno, I only heard about it earlier this year. But I need to use it to post now because 4chan decided to block my ISP (one of the largest of my country) because they apparently think that will help.
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>>42812982
>You can even make it a deposit
Actually an interesting concept, since I don't really need the money. Still, this might make it relatively easy for an adversary to just make several accounts paid for with different wallets and Tor routes to appear distinct and then once the money is refunded start spamming the site. But perhaps posting legitimate content that would build up "karma" and then once you have enough you can withdraw might work. That brings its own set of problems of people building up karma and then using that to proceed posting things unchecked though (as I've seen happen on sites like Slashdot in the past). I'd probably just use it to adjust the threshold of the filter, but not disable it completely.

>Also rules-based violations that aren't egregious shouldn't forfeit the deposit
Yes, absolutely. The check would only be meant for preventing legitimate abuse, so unless the user is posting CP or gore or whatever there would be no reason to not refund the money, the account would simply be blocked for breaking the rules. I don't believe in permanently banning users for simple infractions anyway, only people who are deliberately trying to ruin the place for others. Everyone breaks the rules sometimes, and most people just need a time out or even just have their post deleted and perhaps issued a warning, though I suppose when you allow anonymous posting through Tor you'll have to be a little more banhappy since a block is easily circumvented.
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>>42813166
>Considering it is very easily added to an image it is probably just as easily removed for the check.
Anon pls
You can throw more AI at it though
>Are you deliberately misconstruing what I wrote?
My point was that a party interested in using your site to host more or less dissimulated cp would likely have no issue just periodically paying for an account to unlock uploads until discovered since they're already in the crypto and dissimulation workflow.
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>>42813227
I meant the deposit is held as long as the account exists. If you want it back you have to not post for 30 days or maybe a week or whatever and then you can take the money out and lose the verified identity.
If you want to spam you have to have a deposit deposited and then you get banned and it becomes forfeit.

Karma systems are a can of worms yeah, it becomes a currency that can be "cashed in" for evil actions, and the economics there are very wonky. Especially if someone values fucking up your site a lot out of spite or just for fun, and especially if it's possible to game the karma by making a bunch of accounts and then occasionally posting to each of them so you end up with tons of accounts all having an established posting history.

>>42813166
>Considering it is very easily added to an image it is probably just as easily removed for the check.
No this logic makes no sense, the noise is random small variations. It's very easy to come up with some randomised numbers to add to a few pixels and would be nearly impossible to revert perfectly without seeing the original.
It's possible to make models that are powerful enough that they're not easily fooled even by adversarial methods, but they will never ever be perfect in terms of classification. Best you can hope for is a middle ground where some users are annoyed because their images get blocked and some CP still gets uploaded. Maybe it's better than nothing (if you're fine with annoying users), but getting it even good enough to be more useful than annoying would take tons of effort.
I dunno maybe worth a try, unlike the twi anon I don't think it's hopeless, but you need to know what you're doing with it. Also, I'm not sure how you'd even train it.
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>>42813263
I don't think it's necessarily hopeless, just hardly worth the effort. If it's supposed to be a passion project anyways I suppose go for it, but I think that time would be better spent elsewhere in the project.
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>>42813166
>>adversarial noise
>Considering it is very easily added to an image it is probably just as easily removed for the check.
Anon, I don't mean to offend you but I do want to discourage you from pursuing this idea of imageboard until you fully, completely understand the ways abusers will make your life miserable. I'm glad some chans still exist, and I believe this is a unique way of online communication that everypony should experience at least a bit. I wouldn't want to be on the admin side, responsible for content posted by strangers without an identity attached. Looking at it one way, it's begging for some assholes to burn your place to the ground.
>>42812692
This reminds me of the lain.la guy, who hosts a Pomf and had interesting posts about some organizations not being interested in cooperating with him to prevent propagating abuse material. Sad.
>>42813263
>making a bunch of accounts and then occasionally posting to each of them so you end up with tons of accounts all having an established posting history.
Well, that's one way to rig the "time spent being good = trust" approach that I didn't consider. Requiring money wouldn't really help either. OP should really think as much as possible and design to prevent these attacks.
>inb4 requiring fTPMs as HWID to permaban and web integrity API to make sure you're not forwarding TPM responses from some botnet of computers, to make attacks expensive physically
What a fun approach that will absolutely not end up being misused by big internet companies in 10 years.
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>>42813549
>Requiring money wouldn't really help either.
It would assuming you can catch each spammer/CPer fast enough that he only gets in a little bit of damage before the account is lost.
Creating 500 accounts and waiting three months is free, you could even script it, nowadays even automate posting using an LLM that's tuned to not sound exactly like chatgpt. Funding 500 accounts with $50 each and then losing it all is very much not free and basically only dedicated glowies would bother doing that, but hey, you're now a couple dozen thousand $ richer.
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>>42814231
Hm. How about allowing users to only post links to an image that already exists for free and displaying that? Have a whitelist of image hosts and allow them to post their images of it's a chan.
And like the other anons are suggesting, have a deposit for paid accounts that can upload their own files.
How that deposit works is up to you. Money is one deterrent from abuse. But you could also force them to donate to charity with their information.
Once the deposit is done just give them a random id / trip they can use to auth as a paid / veted user and that allows them to have their own files.

Or for total privacy. Store everything in ram. Every files the user uploads. That way even if it's cp no proofs without throwing your stick in liquid nitrogen seconds before the computer shuts down.
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>>42814346
>Or for total privacy. Store everything in ram. Every files the user uploads. That way even if it's cp no proofs without throwing your stick in liquid nitrogen seconds before the computer shuts down.
lmao cops can just prove that your website served the images
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>>42814464
Yes, but if you have a VPs in another country that's gonna be a hell of a headache to ask for paperwork and go with the procedure.
Plus, the website is over tor / i2p already, you cant exactly run a whois check on that.
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>>42812696
>https://cybernews.com/news/nudenet-dataset-contained-child-abuse-material/
Incredibly sus article. How would you be able to find supposed illegal images in a dataset that consists of nothing but weights that were created from the training data? The data is literally not even there anymore. This seems like a very deliberate attempt to sabotage this project for whatever obviously nefarious reason. I had no idea that things were this bad.
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>>42814922
It clearly says dataset, not model, so it'd be referring to the images themselves. Obviously you shouldn't be distributing that. A model trained from it would be fine (and appear to still be available on github, unless those just have the same name).
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>>42814954
Is there even a public dataset, though? I can't find anything of the sort on any of the project's sites, only the trained models.

>appear to still be available on github
No, the page gives a unicorn when accessing it. Archive.org has also removed it.
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>>42814966
>Is there even a public dataset
There used to be. https://academictorrents.com/details/1cda9427784a6b77809f657e772814dc766b69f5
>github
I found this one: https://github.com/notAI-tech/NudeNet/releases
It doesn't say which dataset was used though so maybe it's an independently developed one.
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>>42815062
>https://github.com/notAI-tech/NudeNet/releases
Why do I suddenly need to sign in to see that page and it gave me a unicorn before? Regular Github repositories don't require me to log in. Again, it's obvious what's happening here.

Anyway, if there really was a dataset that contained CP it's of course fine that they report it, but it still doesn't explain why the entire dataset needs to be removed. Just take down the original torrent, point out what the problematic images are and then upload a new torrent for the dataset with those images removed. Problem solved. But of course that was never the intent.
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On a less depressing note, has anypony had a chance to check out the poni keyboard, see what's inside and whether it runs QMK etc.? >>42801016
Link with less tracking: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FP553BRP
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>>42815263
Oh I think it was marked as 18+ or something, that's probably why you have to log in. I haven't looked extensively, but there appear to be a couple other datasets. It was also just a month ago so maybe they'll make it available again at a later date, and the charity provides a free service to scan images (requires upload, obviously). You're free to keep your tinfoil hat on but they stopped the distribution of the actual CP and the models are still online. Obviously it'd be preferable if the cleaned dataset comes back as well.
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Just got a PS2, what replacement controllers are worth getting? I would consider 8bitdo's bluetooth adapter, however it would require me getting a bluetooth controller (I don't think I can pair Logitech F710 with that)
I would go for original if they weren't filthy or abused over the years. I have two controllers and they have their issues (one has very sensitive analog and other keeps pushing down L3)
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>>42811044
anon this is so fucking based, i used to use the same wallpaper
>>42810667
holy shit, lol
well this is a fucking mess
>Rebble wants to 100% own the app store data
So who are you guys believing? Rebble, or Core? I think open source-ness is always something to highlight on
I've been using my pebble watches alot more recently, after a year hiatus, but coming to 2-3 years strong with a pebble. These things are reliable, sure the display might tweak out, but its nothing pressing a few buttons won't fix
Not interested in the Pebble 'Classic' 2, I'd be paying x2-3 times as much for something that I already have on my wrist. The Time 2 though... well, i REALLY hope it comes out good. Strongly considering getting one, I wanted to get a regular time but, with this new one coming out, I might as well wait.
>Does Rebble need to exist for Pebbles to live forever? I'd say yes
yup. it really does look like the drama could be solved so easily if Rebble would just post onto archive.org, but can we really blame then? Anyone would be mad, losing their credit on any sort of project, but this is something bigger then Rebble, OR Eric. This is about Pebble. Sounds like Rebble's starting to forget that...
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>>42815273
I was going to say no way but at $75 it actually looks like it might be using decent parts. Unfortunately it also means that at $75 it's really pricy if you just want to cannibalise the keycaps. I wonder if it's possible to find just the keycap set on aliexpress or something.
Some of these better-built chink keyboards do run QMK sometimes but this one is wireless and has a dongle. QMK doesn't really support wireless connections; ZMK does but only bluetooth as far as I'm aware. Now it's possible the "dongle" is literally just bluetooth itself and they are using ZMK, I wouldn't put it past chinks and nowhere on the product page does it explicitly say wifi. But if it is wifi, then it's either a chink fork of ZMK (or QMK at that point) or something custom. The .exe driver on a bit ly link is par for the course for chinks so it could just as easily be a ZMK build as a completely custom one.
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>>42816006
>Anyone would be mad, losing their credit on any sort of project, but this is something bigger then Rebble, OR Eric. This is about Pebble. Sounds like Rebble's starting to forget that...
Pebble is dead. Eric killed it. Why the fuck should Rebble be loyal to that?
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>>42816811
Anon, kurwa, I will give you benefit of the doubt and assume you have just purchased >>42815273 and haven't figured out the key combo for missing Print Screen key yet.
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>>42801505
the tablet version?
my actual drawing tablet died, so i figured this one be a two for one
>>42788238
so, this never happened. battery arrived fucking dead, lol
i also came to the realization and acceptance of me buying a faulty laptop, the seller said the battery wouldnt hold charge, but really, he meant, the fucking laptop wont charge any battery, and won't recieve charge from any battery, it's just completely useless unless its plugged in
im not retarded, right? he said the battery wouldnt hold charge, anyone would've read that and thought "i just got to buy a new battery" , right? lets see if ebay can step in and give me a refund
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>>42816811
where the fuck does Discover get its app screenshots? screenshots.debian.net have no MLP
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>>42816533
$75...
On one hoof, I feel confident in the quality of the keyboard, looks fucking legit
On the other hoof... literal no who's on the keyboard (Rarity is waifu).
I really want to review the keyboard and check out all it's quirk and software, but I can't justify spending $75 dollars on a pony keyboard that doesn't have MY pony, sure I could resell, but again, doesn't justify. Do I start injecting hopeium, or will it blatantly just never happen?
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>>42788395
late response but they work for me, is there something I'm missing?
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>>42817172
Not him but on thunderbird, mail.horsefucker.club serves a certificate that expired in April 2025 for some reason. SHA1 fingerprint 88:B4:22:EE:6C:35:91:F3:69:41:22:6B:97:5B:21:D9:81:11:FD:73
I don't know if maybe it's misconfigured and some clients get served wrong, old certs for some reason instead of the real one, or something
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>>42817214
Huh? i'm not 100% sure how that's doing that. my first instinct would be to blame the client because any device I'm checking I'm getting an expiry of 26 December 2025
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Do all LED strips need some kind of driver? Or can I just hook it directly to 12V?
I don't know where it's from and there is no way to identify it
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>>42817807
you can hook 12V directly to those as long as your power supply can handle the power requirements.
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>>42815539
The models themselves are just weights, there's no visible adult content so no need to require 18+ login for that, and there was only a censored image up on the project page itself, although they do have a samples folder so maybe they have some uncensored adult content in there, I haven't checked. If they do it's understandable Github would require login for that, considering it's a company (owned by Microsoft, no less) but why did I get the unicorn error page? I could access other projects just fine on that notAI-tech account's page at the time, just that repository gave me a unicorn. Was that just a temporary error message then? I don't have too much experience with Github.

I think whether a curated dataset comes online probably depends on the people who created the dataset in the first place, but these "child abuse charities" usually never tell exactly which images are actually the CP with some bullshit reason like "We can't point it out because it would require you to look at CP, which is against the law (but it is a-okay for us to do so because we are the good guys and you must be a bad guy because only those who dedicate their lives to fighting le ebil ceepeez are good)." This means that the weights also contain data based on CP which has a chilling effect towards its usage (even if it doesn't contain any actual illegal material a lot of people who might want to deploy it would consider it "tainted" because it was trained on it and I personally would also prefer a model that was trained on a curated dataset rather than this, so I'll just hope my suspicions are incorrect and a clean dataset does turn up in the future).
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>>42817818
Thanks
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>>42817858
The unicorn is for various random/temporary errors on github I think, so probably just a fried request or something. More specific errors are sometimes different like e.g. the 404 page is Star Wars themed instead.
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Whoa hey don't go yet
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>>42817878
the display connector is gone
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>>42817878
Looks like someone tried to repair the display connector but lifted all the pads when they desoldered it. More or less, you had a problem and now you have two problems
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somewhat unrelated:
>live in silicon valley
>my ip range was banned from posting on /g/ until yesterday due to "frequent abuse" from the range
what the fuck man.
i don't wanna notice but i'm starting to notice really hard. i guess they just fucking spam and shill really hard on all tech-related outlets.
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>>42810092
no, it's the same reason why Intel invested in AMD when the latter was floundering really hard and vice versa. it's common practice among big tech monopolies to throw just enough lifeline to keep your competitor afloat so you can dodge antitrust regulations.
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>>42819444
It's not just you, 4chan is banning tons of legitimate IP ranges in some desperate last-ditch resort to stop the proxy site.
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>>42819451
If that were true AMD wouldn't have been able to sue them for anti-competitive practices way back in 2005.
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>>42819512
tbf the proxy is currently struggling with new anti-spam measures against firefox-based browsers
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>>42819531
Really? I haven't noticed anything. What problems are you getting?
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>>42819515
it obviously doesn’t work 100% of the time because corporate paralegals are oftentimes medically retarded
you see this fund-your-fake-competitor behavior all the time if you look hard enough, it’s a brain dead easy way to weasel your way out of antitrust and anti-monopoly regulations
one recent example is chrome vs firefox where google had an active vested interest in keeping firefox afloat or risk retreading the same path that microsoft took with internet explorer back in the day
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>>42819560
Oh I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it definitely does (especially in Firefox's case like you mentioned - there is no reason for Google to give so much money to Firefox just to "be the default search engine"), I'm just not sure it happens in the Intel-AMD case. When was the last time Intel invested in AMD like you said? I might've missed it.
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>>42819565
The legend back in the day was that Intel cannot let AMD die because of some x86/amd64 architecture licensing reasons.
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>>42820565
AMD licenses x86 from Intel, Intel licenses x86-64 from AMD. This fragile balance is what keeps the CPU ecosystem somewhat alive
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>>42820590
>This fragile balance is what keeps the CPU ecosystem somewhat alive
>implying patent bullshit with duopoly is what makes the market work
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>>42820594
It was very tongue-in-cheek and I should've added (and a duopoly) but at least it's better than a monopoly (also VIA exists maybe? I never really understood). Bulldozer made Intel complacent, Ryzen actually made them improve their offerings.
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>>42818871
luckily the guy who gave me the imac gave me another motherboard so i just swapped it in. it wasnt easy because of how imacs are built but i managed to get it 99% in (it didnt wanna go in the last 1% and i couldnt force it) and now it works fine, so thats good enough
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>>42808009
I like the explanations/manual on the side, gave me feeling that I'd be able to do something with it for a few seconds
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Why are hard disk prices shooting through the roof? A disk I was waiting for to reach a reasonable $/TB became over $150 more expensive in just a few months. What's the bullshit "global economic" reason they're giving now?
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>>42821731
They do. They even gave it away to china
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>>42821734
You don't need more than 512GB. I bought 3 4TB drives in 2023 and I'm selling them right now.
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>>42821734
The slop merchants are running out of storage space (AI data centres are driving up RAM demand which is now driving SSD pricing up since it's all flash memory but I'm not sure about spinny discs)
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>>42821734
i know ai datacenters are what a lot of people are pointing fingers to when it comes to rising component prices. it makes sense since theyre all trying to exponentially grow. i mean look at ram prices now, theyre insane!
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>>42822496
I can't wait for this retarded bubble to finally burst. But it doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.
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people have been saying it was gonna burst for some time now but at this point its only edging from here
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>42821720
The manual is pretty useless on its own. An actually useful introduction is a youtube video linked somewhere in the manual.

While the only feature of the language, the lambda function, is easy to understand, the joke is it's impossible to do anything with it without using programming paradigms invented by mathematicians. And oh boy are those black magic. Simple language, terribly awkward to actually use. Lambda calculus is invented by aliens, so previous programming experience does not transfer. Well, expect knowing what is the lambda function, because it is the same thing as in python, javascript, or c++.
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>>42822645
wish it would just happen already
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Great now I cant even bump with images because I have been range banned as wel
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>>42825410
KWAB
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>>42825410
My ISP that they started blocking a few days ago got unbanned today, so perhaps it will be temporary for you as well.
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>>42825441
I hope so, at least I still have blessed cookies on my desktop so I can post from here
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Bump, still waiting for the gopher post anon
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>buy 16GB DDR3 in September last year for 8€
>now it costs 32€
What the fuck. How is ancient technology tied to modern day shit? DDR3 has been obsolete for about a decade now.
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>>42826707
>be me
>ask my friends if anyone wants gratis hardware
>some junk taken from old desktops and laptops
>one friend asks for 8 gigs of DDR3
>because his employer is too Jewish to buy new hardware for office wagecucks my friend sysadmins
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>>42826707
Right now RAM prices are exploding because of AI, I don't think DDR3 should be affected directly but I wouldn't be surprised if it had some kind of knock-on effect due to retards.
But more generally I've noticed old RAM can be a lot more expensive than I would have expected simply because people have old systems that aren't compatible with newer versions and so are forced to buy it, but it's barely being produced so there's no huge supply; it's basically become something of a niche item for fags stuck with ancient machines (either hobbyists or dinosaur corporate IT fags that can't upgrade), and suffers from markup accordingly. If anything 16GB for 8€ seems very cheap.
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>>42826707
i just checked amazon and yeah ddr3 prices are weirdly high. have used prices for ddr3 also gotten worse or is it just new prices?
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>>42826904
>But more generally I've noticed old RAM can be a lot more expensive
The reason for that is that older RAM is usually produced on a less advanced process node, thus the chips are bigger = more expensive since chip prices are directly tied to wafer utilization.
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>>42827348
I looked at a few price graphs and don't see anything too out of the ordinary. Definitely a couple short spikes recently and slight upwards movement but generally still looks pretty stable. A couple kits did rise pretty good though, including the cheapest 16 GB one from 12,50 to 20 €.
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>want to upgrade hardware because I want to dabble in local AI generation (and perhaps crypto)
>prices for pretty much all components happen to just right now be shooting through the roof for that very same reason

At least the card itself hasn't actually risen in price because it's an older generation budget model.
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>>42817155
>but I can't justify spending $75 dollars on a pony keyboard that doesn't have MY pony
Luckily for me it does have MY pony so I ordered it. I'm hoping for the best.
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>>42827696
You don't need hardware for crypto. Hardware is only relevant for mining and mining is irrelevant for consumer.
The only two exceptions are those giant proof of stake nodes like Solana or whatever, and Monero mining. But running your own Solana node is the goyest thing imaginable and is about as useless as mining Bitcoin, even though it's not actual mining. Mining XMR is actually good and useful but it's CPU-bound and CPUs are not that inflated right now as far as I can tell (and also they're useless for AI unless you're insane).
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Anyone knows any good software for ripping internet radios? I only care about fixed pre-selected times so some kind of built-in planner would be nice
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>>42828262
I've never thought about this but any reason plain old OBS combined with a browser wouldn't work? I bet you can script it to start recording at fixed times too.
Or maybe even simpler, I wonder if you can pipe mpv into a file, or at least pipe mpv into OBS. Might be more elegant than a browser if you can get the stream or playlist file to feed to mpv, assuming it's not some niggery javascripted radio.
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>>42827734
>Monero mining
Well yeah but that just so happens to be what I want to do. You're right though, I forgot it's actually CPU bound and I actually have a pretty decent CPU in that system (Xeon W-1290) but I also need to upgrade RAM from 64 to 128 GB, though perhaps that doesn't really have an impact on Monero mining, I haven't checked.
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>>42828262
There's the classic streamripper.
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>>42828629
>Well yeah but that just so happens to be what I want to do.
Ok pretty based, fair enough
>though perhaps that doesn't really have an impact on Monero mining,
Unused RAM is wasted RAM, iirc you need a sufficient amount according to how fast your CPU can mine but it's not an excessive amount - as the algorithm is tuned to try to be as optimal as they could get it on an average user PC. So 64GB should be plenty I believe.
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>>42829186
On my shitbox the capacity used during mining is below 3GB. If I'm not mistaken, as far as RAM goes, it's the latency (and bandwidth?) that affects RandomX hashrate in meaningful way.
Of course there's also the light mode of RandomX that reduces capacity used to like 200MB, but hashrate is drastically affected.
>tfw Kirin-named mining computer
>warms your room
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>>42829433
>t's the latency (and bandwidth?) that affects RandomX hashrate
Yes indeedy
>light mode
IIRC that's meant for verification, right? So once you know the block hash, you don't need hashrate since you only need to calculate one single "hash" per block to check if it's correct or not. And light mode lets you do that with much smaller requirements than actual mining.

RandomX is really a very genius and beautiful piece of work.
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>>42829433
What also seems to help apparently is enabling huge pages which gives a free 10-15% hashrate boost. I'm not exactly sure what to set it to on Linux though, it needs to be calculated depending on the application used it seems.
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years pass and 720p is still common as fuck
HD will never die, huh?
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>>42829666
depends on size, 720p on 32" display sux and yet a lot of TVs were commonly using them
I have 12" laptop with 1080p display and it's tiny as fuck, and using it at 1366x768 is still sharp lol
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>>42829670
lol but I'm talking about software side of things
>a shitton of YouTube videos is uploaded in 720p
>Internet speeds still force streaming to be 720p to be stable
>UE5slop only runs in 720p (unless you are fine with playing in 15 FPS and/or using upscaling)
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>>42829674
ah like that
>youtube
desu they fucked it up and for some reason 720p videos are currently even more smeary than before
schizos on /g/ often say that videos are now upscaled by ai and they also compress videos further down to save on space apparently
>internet speeds
desu if streaming media would turn to HEVC instead of AVC, there would be less to download but for some reason majority of them still use AVC even though HEVC has been around since 2013 and most hardware made in the past 10 years fully supports decoding it
tv stations for example shifted to HEVC a few years ago
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>>42807629
holy fuck she's so cute here
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>>42829680
>schizos on /g/ often say that videos are now upscaled by ai and they also compress videos further down to save on space apparently
the last part definitely isnt schizobabble, theyve been recompressing videos to make them look shittier since at least 2023 if not earlier
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>>42829703
also here's one from /mu/. theyre even killing 240p ones, I wonder if partially to play into the "nostalgia" of old videos having shit quality when they were actually pretty serviceable, especially on an old CRT
>>>/mu/125296342
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>>42829680
>desu if streaming media would turn to HEVC instead of AVC, there would be less to download but for some reason majority of them still use AVC even though HEVC has been around since 2013 and most hardware made in the past 10 years fully supports decoding it
prob has something to do with patents
I hate IP law so much it's unreal
>tv stations for example shifted to HEVC a few years ago
nobody cares about xbox
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>>42828490
>any reason plain old OBS combined with a browser wouldn't work?
Well that doesn't sound very automatic so missing some days is inevitable. And while my computer is usually running at that time, it's not always.
>if you can pipe
That was my first thought, to just get cronjob to start curl at certain time and then kill it at certain time (the radio is just infinite audio file stream).
But I hoped for something more sophisticated
>>42829186
Thanks I'll check it out. I just hope the age won't be a problem
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>>42829711
Youtube is a terrible platform to publish on anyway, this is just another reason for that.
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>>42779176
Tiff
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The Google/Mozilla duopoly has destroyed the internet.
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>>42830734
Ppm
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>>42831391
Ladybird will save us, trust the plan
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>>42831391
>duopoly
lol
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>>42831969
Yeah, I realized that after I posted it.
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>>42829988
alternative?
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>>42833505
Dunno, Bitchute maybe?
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So any cool /g/ movies or shows you watched recently? Or long time ago?
Some of my picks:
Halt And Catch A Fire - Show from the early IBM computer days, watched long time ago, was pretty alright if I remember correctly
23 (1998) - I didn't actually see this one but it's on my list, I got it recommended, it's supposed to be good but maybe not, according to reviews I'm checking now.
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>>42829724
>prob has something to do with patents
more specifically, licensing costs of patent pools
most recent example:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/dell-and-hp-disable-hardware-h-265-decoding-on-select-pcs-due-to-rising-royalty-costs-companies-could-save-big-on-hevc-royalties-but-at-the-expense-of-users
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>>42834970
Only non-business laptop affected
You wouldn't want a non-business laptop anyway. The quality control is non-existent.
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>>42835006
>the water rising is okay because i'm further up in the building
this attitude is what got us into this mess to begin with
not another step back
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>>42834970
I hope Trump nukes American IP laws when his AI techbros lobbyists get fucked by copyright
MPEG Group is fucking evil man
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>>42835062
Because selling laptop is not a lucrative market with non-existent profit margin. Dell, HP and Lenovo have to compete on who make the shittiest laptop at the cheapest price point just to barely survive.
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>>42835069
AI being what finally gives us copyright reform has been a hilarious possibility in the back of my mind for a while, but the obvious monkey's paw is that it'll only apply to the big corporations. Which I guess might help with this kind of patent bullshit but overall still wouldn't be meaningful.
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>>42835143
corpo-only copyright/patent exception might be difficult to word properly as part of a bill desu
still, I hope we get something based like making AT LEAST H.264 free
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>>42829988
its pretty much the only platform for entertainment on the web (ignoring subscription services) so for most people theyre stuck there because 1) for creators the audience is on there and 2) audiences have been there for years and are used to tuning into creators that have been there for years too.
personally the only consideration id have for moving away from youtube would be to just upload random videos that id wanted hosted online like what youtube was originally created for.
Now that i think about it, i probably should move to alternate platforms for more personal videos, but im also lazy and just prefer to stay with whats been around unless it gets so bad for me that i have to
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Install Gentoo
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>>42836382
already done
I will try installing guix next someday
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>>42836382
Fuck no
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>>42836382
Fuck yes
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>>42836382
Fuck maybe
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>be Gentoomare
>on a date with anon
>you tell anon about all the things you've written down in your wiki
>he tells you how many packages you'll compile together tonight, in his Johnny Bravo voice
>go to your house
>you start up your Pontium 4 to raise the temperature, put a nice chiptune too
>suddenly, anon starts talking to himself
>>42836691
>>42836723
>>42836724
>confused_snoof.xm
>thank him for the night
>think fondly about Torvalds instead
>he's got such a charming smile, permanently imprinted on the daki
>go to sleep dreaming about penguins
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>>42836382
why
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Bump.
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>>42837875



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