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Previous Thread: >>42772630
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42772630

Discuss:
>Work on any pony and/or tech related projects (You) are working on or learnt about recently.
>Post (You)r pony themed technology (desktops/rices, papes, new devices, software ponies)
>What software and technology do (You) use? (Email, Git, OSes, Messaging, Monero, etc...)
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I'm currently trying to get pic rel to work as a webcam on my GNU/Linux machine
firmware isn't a problem (there are functional dumps of it online) but the device outputs video in a proprietary format that looks like shit when it's not modified in any way (image is doubled multiple times)
from what I read online there is a community-made driver that's only available for Windows. Currently thinking about porting that junk to GNU/Linux
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>>42762387
>>42762395
Well, got a newfangled wildcard SSL cert for the domain.
Not much to do about the SSH port. It's a shared webhost, and at least they're are (relatively) cheap.
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>>42774989
>pts dead in less than 24 hours
Wtf happened
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>>42775579
>Wtf happened
shartyslider and his shitty threads
>>42775010
from what I managed to find
>windows driver was a red herring (same shit as on GNU/Linux)
>there's a github project that adds support for openCV, it has a small script to output normal (and fixed!) RGB webcam video
>said script doesn't work on my machine
>also would be better if I could use fixed camera in various applications
I'm gonna look for a way to make virtual /dev/video that's just another /dev/video with modifications kek
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>>42775630
pipe it through OBS lol
why did you buy this shitass webcam anyway
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>>42776803
>pipe it through OBS lol
OBS is bloat
>why did you buy this shitass webcam anyway
because I have a PS4 and wanted to see how shitty Tearaway Unfolded is
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>>42776815
>bloat
>The Linux user shrieks when confronted with a productive system.
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>>42776831
why the fuck would I need to use a streaming+video recording software just to modify my webcam's video output?
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>>42776875
>obs is bloat, let me get this python library that will rearrange pixels one by one instead
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>>42775326
Nice. But I can still see your funky crusty forum in the certificate extension entry, kek
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>https://www.fsf.org/news/2025-photo-contest-winners
>only 21 images submitted
>One guy submitted almost half.
>Only three people are on the voting page
That's pretty sad on one hand but on the other... we would totally be able to sneak some ponies in there
these are (some of) the entries btw: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fsf40-photo-contest-voting

Some of you fags can make beautiful fucking rices, I don't know how many people voted but I bet we could have won this without any rigging.
I need to start reading the fucking newsletter more often
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>>42777314
Those pictures are fucking depressing.
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anyone have any ongoing pony hardware/software projects going on? i wanna figure out something like that in the future but dont have the time or money to yet.
(pretend the cats in the pic are fillies or something)
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>>42777314
wtf is fsf
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>>42777971
I'm not even sure if you're ironic or not
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>>42777971
oh never mind it’s wonderfully boring shit, those photos are indeed depressing

>random /pol/ tier image of someone going “we can’t trust without the sauce code!!” because it’s used by a EU voting machine system.
>random photo of someone’s shitty HP laptop running server processes in a command line
>random photo of someone running another OS in a VM.
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>>42777975
I’m not ironic I’ve never heard of it.
The most /g/ faggotry I’ve done is basic command line stuff (fuck there being no guides on how to run command line scripts, you’d think it’d be the first thing that comes to your mind when “basics” but rust/krakatau doesn’t document it in their get started guide and not do many other programs)
and running x32 Bodhi Linux on a 2003 IBM R40, until my OS corrupted itself with a permissions escalation command then the 20 year old HDD crashed and shit the bed on trying to reinstall a new OS
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>>42777985
>I’m not ironic I’ve never heard of it.
GNU in GNU/Linux stands for the GNU Project
they develop GCC, glibc, GNU coreutils and other essential Unix stuff
they also wrote the GPL license that many free software projects use
Free Software Foundation is their 501(c)3 to manage funds, copyright and support other projects (most of them are shit in comparison to GNU)
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>>42777532
Yeah, I just hope they'll run it again next year. I really want to join, but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave up
>>42777971
>>42777975
I mean, they should work on their marketing
>>42777981
I agree with the "we can't trust the source" but I have no idea why would you submit screencap like that into a PHOTO contest. The other screencaps at least tried
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bmp
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>>42777971
An organization that used to be okay until they got infiltrated by woketards and feminists who accuse one of the founding fathers of open sauce, Richard Stallman, of being a sexual predator. No word that they say holds any more meaning since.
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>>42778665
Stallman tried to to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Also he did come back to FSF anyway
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>>42778717
>Defend Epstein
Didn't hear of that, although it's probably just as much of a nothingburger as his thoughts on sex education in schools, which he clearly wrote in a way to troll, back in a time when people could still joke about that stuff.

If anyone has dead babies in their basement Bill Gates is a far more likely candidate.
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>>42778717
>Stallman tried to to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
No he didn't. What he said was something like
>I can't believe my good friend Marvin Minsky would have sex with a girl if he knew she was being coerced
>so the girls on Epstein's island must have been instructed to pretend that they were there willingly
Which is 100% obvious, but the normies went berserk anyway when the saw it
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>>42778617
xpm
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>>42778812
So a nothingburger, as I expected. They wouldn't have accepted any statement from him besides complete and utter condemnation without any reserved judgment, because they are looking for anything they can use to tar and feather him with. His viewpoints are too "problematic" for the dystopian society we have in current year.
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I've been collecting videos all over the internet for the past 5 years, be it movies or TV series and compressing them to HEVC to save up space. I've got over 3TB of movies like that. I watch all movies locally from the MP4 or MKV files and they look and play just fine, and the space save is significant.
Yet for whatever reason, for the past few months I've been having very intrusive thoughts of running through the collection, and redownloading everything, and encoding it in MPEG-2 so it can be fit on a DVD.
Why?
I don't even have a DVD player or recorder. My laptops are capable of decoding and encoding HEVC. So really, what the hell is wrong with me?
It was easier for me with the music, since I just looked for good source that wasn't remastered shit, downloaded it in FLAC and compressed to OPUS.
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>>42779943
Use case for DVDs?
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>>42780065
Damned if I know.
They suck as medium for constant use, I've been there 15-20 years ago and I know it stinks. They scratch and you also have to rely on mechanical drives that may go out of production one day, just like it happened to VHS.
I'm stupid.
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>>42778665
>the founding fathers of open sauce, Richard Stallman,
open source is for niggers
he defended FREE SOFTWARE
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up you go
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>>42779943
>So really, what the hell is wrong with me?
There is some satisfaction in minimalism. Some take it to the level of reducing functionality/quality to one's own "good enough" levels. Same thing with pretending to live with old tech's constraints. Not entirely sure but you could say that about demoscene and their filesize limits too.
But on the other hoof, I'd say you're probably bored. I saw this is my friends too, some of them jump between projects, e.g. buying one of each game console, then restoring + jailbreaking them just to sit on a shelf. I'm falling out of a short obsession with Meshtastic/MeshCore back to neverending todo list that homelab brings - I needed a break from that for a while to enjoy it again. Similarly, I'm feeling an urge to buy a LibreDrive compatible BD drive and setup a disc ripping station despite having no media on discs at all. Or a DVB-T setup to plug into Jellyfin, despite not watching TV ever. Just for that thrill of having some aspect of tech "fully completed" and ready for use, if it's ever going to be needed.
I wanted to list fixing up my Ender printer here too, but so far I do have some useful things to print and improving the printer would bring me actual value. Such as a Marble Pie statue in a pretty marble filament, or, well, cases for those LoRa nodes.
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>>42781348
Thanks for the response.
>buying "ewaste", restoring it only for it to sit on the shelf
Been there, done that with a lot of computers. At my peak a few years ago I had all sort of laptops from 2003-2013, about 50 of them. Sold them with little to no profit, and now I daily drive two not so new ThinkPads.
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>>42780217
Closed source software is by its very definition unfree.
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>>42781706
open source is about "convenience", not freedom
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>>42781824
Not the issue. Open source is part of the solution, just not the complete package. However, closed source software is never a solution in any way whatsoever.
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>>42782419
wake me up when it ends..
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>>42782540
It never ends, anon.

It never ends.
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How do you choose a DE? I'm looking at Debian right now and they literally have a selection of dozens of DEs. I've only tried GNOME (utter shit), KDE (good but seems a bit bloated) and Xfce (pretty sleek but somewhat minimal), how do I know which one is right for me? I'm not going to bother to check them all out.
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>>42782858
>they literally have a selection of dozens of DEs
[X] Doubt
Dozens of WMs, sure, but I don't think there even exist more than a dozen full DEs for Linux. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, that one that starts with an E, the one from Pop OS, the shitty one that Ubuntu used to ship (might have been discontinued). Those are all I know of and it's only seven. I'm probably missing one or two, since I want to say there are 5-6 DE options in tasksel in the debian installer, and I only covered 3 or 4 of those
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>>42782880
Oh right, some are not really full fledged DEs. I was just going by what was listed besides Desktop on Distrowatch for Debian. I've used several of those "minimal" window managers when I was trying out AntiX for an old system, but I don't really like them, or at least not as a daily driver.

So MATE is not a full DE? What about LXDE/LXQt? I've used that one a couple times and it seems kind of the same in features as something like Xfce. When is something considered a complete DE? What does it need to ship with?
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>>42782858
I like KDE. Lots of features, enough niceties, progressively better UX. Gnome could be neat but its pursuit of feature minimalism even at the expense of UX is just incompatible with me. Xfce, LxQT are nice but currently I don't need their kind of minimalism. Cinnamon is cool in its own way, seems featureful and also gets more usable with each month, but it has few devs and arguably is meant to be used with only one OS, which... isn't my favorite distromare at this moment. I don't really care about other DEs currently.
>how do I know which one is right for me? I'm not going to bother to check them all out.
Well... download *ubuntu live ISOs with each DE and check them all out, with or without installing, but keep in mind Ubuntu ships with Gnome patched to restore silly bloat such as min/max window buttons and desktop icons. I think other DEs are mostly intact.
Suffice to say, I'm so displeased with Gnome that I still run KDE on my tablet. I'd much prefer something with bigger elements and more paddings, and yet for all the good things they've borrowed from macOS, there's so much of Gnome's own invention that baffles me.
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what are good screen recorders for Wayland (under KDE)?
SSR doesn't support Wayland, OBS is too complex for me and Spectacle doesn't support recording sound
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>>42782858
GNOME tries too hard to reinvent the wheel, while also copying Apple wherever possible
XFCE is very good and versatile, however takes adjusting to, since it has UI philosophy from over 25 years ago (which isn't anything bad, but it takes adjusting to. I view XFCE as Windows 2000 but modernized).
I'm overwhelmed by KDE + it doesn't help that it looks like Windows 10/11 (or vice versa lol)
Cinnamon is literally Windows 7.
I've been using Mint with Cinnamon since 2017. I've had a few distro hops on the way, but for me it's the one that gets the job done with least adjusting needed.
Never really cared for MATE or LXDE/Qt.
>>42783424
I haven't used Wayland for long, but I think KDE's print screen has built in screen recorder.
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>>42783428
>I haven't used Wayland for long, but I think KDE's print screen has built in screen recorder.
that's spectacle and it doesn't support recordings with sound
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>>42783430
Aw shucks.
Off my head I can currently throw two flatpaks I use, but both are GTK based I think.
RecApp and GPU Screen Recorder. Good luck.
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>>42783440
>but both are GTK based I think.
not really a problem desu
>GPU Screen Recorder
I'm pretty sure it requires a nvidia GPU
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>>42783473
>I'm pretty sure it requires a nvidia GPU
nvm it appears that amd is supported and nvidia has some features missing kek
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>>42783473
>>42783480
it works on Intel and AMD for me. Haven't tried it on NVIDIA.
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>>42782880
Don't forget about the *NIX™ Soul™ desktop
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>>42782858
Pick KDE and never look back.
I don't hate XFCE but it broke when symlinking fonts from Windows drive.
GNOME is a piece of shit
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>>42779694
>His viewpoints are too "problematic" for the dystopian society we have in current year.
The irony is that he's a hardcore leftist himself, but he's also autistic and extremely rational, which is not allowed.
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I'm wanting to get into laser shit like vidrel, any of you have experience or know where to start? Not bothered about it being professional, it's just for a little fun.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IevBmc9C_nE
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>>42784023
Many years ago I DIYd a single color laser projector. Now you can probably just buy one from china way cheaper.
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Is game dev talk allowed here? Once the game jam thread dies is everyone cool with me potentially showing off pony related game assets and stuff if I'm working on something dumb and fun or would that be better off elsewhere?
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>>42785222
sure, any tech project is on-topic and vidya is certainly tech
also checked
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>>42783984
>extremely rational, which is not allowed.
Yeah, this pretty much. The nu-left is composed entirely of irrational emotion-based arguments. I'm not even that much right wing myself, but it is this kind of behavior that basically drove me to that side, as it seems to have done for a lot of people, at least until (when/if?) the left unfucks itself.
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is GTK doomed to be ebassi'd into irrelevancy?
>GTK4 is barely used outside of Gnome ecosystem
>GTK5 is planned to drop support for X11 which is insane even if it releases in 2030s
>push for libadwaita to kill theming is just pathetic, especially with libadapta being available
can the Mint Team fork GTK3/4 and do their own thing? Will DEs just switch to Qt when GTK5 gets released?
>>42783984
>>42785673
tbf any leftist ideology requires irrational/"emotional" base to function so their move towards absolute insanity makes sense
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>>42782858
It mostly doesn't matter very much. If you ever get annoyed with your pick you can always install another one and try it out, as long as you have a login manager installed you can easily select between any number of installed DEs when logging in.
Imo GNOME is fucking horrible but everything else is fair game.

>seems a bit bloated
Unironically a meme, unless you're actually trying to run a pre-2012 laptop or something with 4GB max RAM and a core2duo CPU. For any normal computer the DE "weight" doesn't matter.
If you really want minimalism then configure a WM and do everything yourself, but if you can't be bothered (which is extremely reasonable) then it doesn't really matter too much.
KDE is fine. XFCE is fine too. Most of them are pretty customisable. LXDE is geared towards being as lightweight as possible for running on actual ancient toasters, so it might make compromises you don't need, but otherwise isn't bad.
I've never used most other DEs because there's no reason to try them all, unless you really want to try something new.

>>42782900
MATE is a full DE. I have no idea if it's still maintained though since it was mainly used by Ubuntu and it hasn't used it in quite a while by now.
Something is a DE basically when it's more than a WM. Common things included in DEs are desktop management (background, shortcuts, etc.), power management, monitor management (e.g. automatic multimonitor), panels and taskbars, and the tray icons. A WM literally only just manages your windows, so everything up to and including taskbar has to be your own (though some WMs come with companion bars). There's probably a grey area where something might be a "featureful WM" vs. a "really barebones DE" but in practice there isn't really anything like that that exists, DEs are all proper DEs and everything that's not a DE is mostly just a WM alone.
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>>42786019
nta but I should note that LXDE/Qt is pretty much the only DE that has no companion WM/WC
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>>42786047
What do you mean? As in it's window management isn't standalone?
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>>42786057
they don't have one
KDE has kwin, Gnome has Mutter, Cinnamon has Muffin, etc
LXDE/LXQt project doesn't develop their own Window Manager nor their own Wayland Compositor: they expect you to pick one yourself
(preferably Openbox for X11 and labwc for Wayland, others are possible; for example Debian by default picks XFWM for X11)
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>>42786074
Oh right I see what you mean. That's neat, I didn't know that.
>they expect you to pick one yourself
I've never seen an LXDE installation packaged without a WM, but yeah I guess the distro picks in that case.
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>>42786019
Ah, I didn't really mean bloated in the system requirements sense, I'm not really into minimalism. I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something. Something like Xfce looks easier to focus for my autistic mind. Since >>42783428 says Cinnamon looks like W7 I might try that one out, might be a good balance.
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>>42786081
>Oh right I see what you mean. That's neat, I didn't know that.
it can potentially be pretty useful for Wayland because they target wlroots-based compositors
imagine having a DE that's specifically made for all your autistic WCs like niri. That's pretty cool
>I've never seen an LXDE installation packaged without a WM
well you can't really do shit in X without a WM so
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>>42786106
>I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something
you can theme it into something more "comfy" but I understand what you mean
also since Plasma 6 KDE now has W11's floating panel by default kek
>Cinnamon looks like W7 I might try that one out, might be a good balance.
it's W7 but with "flat" design. Looks pretty good imo
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>>42786108
>well you can't really do shit in X without a WM so
And yet you can usually install X without installing a WM. The fact that it's impractical doesn't mean package managers bundle one in, you generally still install one yourself.
Granted I've never installed LXDE from scratch (I've only used it once that I remember, a long while ago, and I think it was literally just Lubuntu) so maybe it's the same and the WM just came preinstalled so I didn't notice.

>>42786106
>I mean that it looks a bit dense, like Windows 10 or something
I'm honestly not sure what people mean when they say that, though it seems to be a common opinion so there must be something to it. The DE provides desktop icons, a taskbar and a standard tray area. XFCE provides pretty much the same, most DEs provide pretty much the same. KDE mostly has more features and more settings for them all, but you don't really see them if you don't use them. Is it just the size of the settings menu that makes it look complex?

Also, if you really want something targeting fewer features and a more minimal UI, that's kind of GNOME's modus operandi, so you might unironically actually enjoy it. You can give it a try if you feel like it.
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>>42786134
>Also, if you really want something targeting fewer features and a more minimal UI, that's kind of GNOME's modus operandi, so you might unironically actually enjoy it. You can give it a try if you feel like it.
Anon, don't recommend literal poison to fellow anons

Mate is pretty "minimal" (because it's Gnome 2 lol) and looks like WinXP
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What's the point of Xebian?
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>>42785783
Funnily enough, just yesterday EasyEffects suddenly switched from GTK4 to Qt. It's uglier now in a way that most KDE programs aren't, it might get some polish but it's a set and forget type of program so in the end - whatever.
>can the Mint Team fork GTK3/4 and do their own thing?
I am worried for how much they're putting on their plate, but it seems like they'll eventually need to do this together with other Gnome descendants, see e.g. Xapp projects.
>>42786169
>Welcome to Xebian! The goal of this project is to make an Xfce Debian based system that is much like Xubuntu.
Which, indeed, doesn't sound like a reason worth creating a distinct OS for, at least in my book.
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>>42784023
>laserpon3
>video unlisted
another faggot who ditched the very fandom that put his career into motion
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>>42782858
>>42783022
>>42783428
>>42783729
I have to say I don't understand why people don't like gnome.
To me it's the only DE that's decent.
KDE is just so inconsistent with spacings being a mess, the whole DE feeling like a sheet of paper, werir paradigms like clicking apply for every single little thing. It feel wonky.
Xfce has the same issue where everything is just so damn small ans fractional scaling just does not work, same "paper sheet" feel to everything.
Cinnamon is neat, but so far they have zero real Wayland support, but you can make cinnamon pretty good, literally gnome if the devs weren't utter idiots.

It's true that gnome, by default is very barren, but I kinda like having one wallpaper and top bar, or even not a top bar at all with extensions. To me it's a lot less stressful to look at one big empty wallpaper unless I am doing work.
The only things I hate with gnome are its' developpers and their backwards stubbornness on preventing me from theming things and odd decisions, like: why no volume mixer? Why no tray icons or something to show me what apps run on the background, why weird client side decorations, why does nautilus shows me copy progress as an jtty bitty tiny spinner that has extreme delay so I can't know if the file is copied or not.
Overall, to me, gnome is the only DE where the UX is there but the UI makes weird decisions. While other desktop UXs were really never thought out from a user's perspective at all or very little.
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>>42785783
I don't think it's all too bad. What's stopping them from just sticking to GTK3? GTK4 doesn't even see any adoption outside of GNOME.
Mint Team feels competent enough to figure this out.
XFCE is in a pretty good condition too.
I'd worry about MATE as it is hardly being worked on.
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>>42786887
ebussyposting doesn't tip you off?
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>>42786845
>I have to say I don't understand why people don't like gnome.
It's shit.
It shits on established user interface paradigms.
It is not configurable at all, and I'm not even talking about ricing.
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>>42786845
>I don't understand why people don't like GNOME
>Proceeds to list all the problems with GNOME
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>>42786896
I honestly cannot believe that this person would have a partner. It must be the ugliest hambeast and/or tranny imaginable, there is no other way.
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>>42786845
I have two issues with it.
The first is basically what you described with it being barren and following a very, very specific vision that I don't agree with. Basically if you like the design philosophy of the GNOME devs, then it's a great and well polished product, but if you disagree on any aspect whatsoever, their position is you should get fucked and die. That kind of approach doesn't really make me want to use it since I don't agree with a lot of the design decisions.

The second issue with GNOME is that because it's quite big and popular, the devs basically believe that they are the "default Linux desktop". It also gets corporate funding to match that - people complain about KDE having some bugs but KDE gets an absolute fraction of the funding that GNOME does, every time a big corpo wants to virtue signal they send a couple millions in $ to one of either the Linux Foundation itself - or GNOME (through FreeDesktop, I think).
But the funding itself isn't the issue, it's what they do with it. Since the GNOME philosophy is that if you disagree you should get fucked and die, and also that they are the default Linux desktop, these combine to basically make GNOME come up with standards that it expects everyone else to follow. The CSD debacle is an excellent example of this; GNOME believes windows should draw their own titlebars, using helper GTK components they supply for this purpose. This means that software that's not using GTK, or even not using a framework in the first place, has to pull in a GTK library JUST to display correctly on GNOME - else it won't have a titlebar. This is literally only needed on GNOME, not a single other DE does this; but because GNOME is the most well-funded, have close ties to corporate linux like RedHat and also by extension Canonical, and as a result have positioned themselves as the "default" despite all their issues, they have the ability to strongarm developers like that by just unilaterally forcing new standards and saying "if you don't follow them you'll be broken under GNOME, and you don't want that, do you?".

So for example I, as a non-GNOME user, am affected because for example Factorio started shipping with a GTK library just to make GNOME work. Yeah it's a small thing, but now it's bundled in the binary for everyone everywhere, just because GNOME says if you don't adhere to their personal preferences you can get fucked and die, they won't even give you a simplistic default. So now that library is bundled for every user just because of GNOME.
This is parasitism pure and simple, as far as GNOME is concerned, nothing exists but GNOME. If all other DEs died tomorrow they'd be incredibly happy because it would "reduce fragmentation", and in the meantime they do their best to pretend they don't exist. And this spills over and affects everyone else.
So as a non-GNOME user, it still affects me when people use GNOME, and it's in my personal best interests for fewer people to use GNOME. Which is insane.
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>>42787107
>"if you don't follow them you'll be broken under GNOME, and you don't want that, do you?".
We just need to create a culture where doing this is actually considered a plus. It already is for me. Being the "default" corpo option doesn't win you any points in my book.
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>>42787124
There is already such a culture, the problem is that it's far from the majority. Most people don't use an OS as a hobby, they use it as a tool, sometimes even a tool they're not particularly interested in. So they use whatever the IT department provides, and when some window looks wrong, they assume the application is broken. Or they want to escape windows and install whatever gets recommended to them first, which is often GNOME because it's already so ubiquitous, and they don't give it any second though and when something looks wrong they assume the application is broken, etc.
Even the anon I'm replying to who doesn't think GNOME is perfect still doesn't see anything wrong with using GNOME and therefore probably either didn't know or doesn't care about their parasitism.

As long as they continue receiving millions in donations, and being the default DE in Ubuntu and in every RedHat distro, there will always remain a critical mass of people who just use whatever's the default or most popular and don't care about technical details like "your default DE refuses to implement standard protocols for zero technical reason, so we're not broken, you are".
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>>42787158
That only sounds like a problem when interacting with normies though. In my asshole opinion, I don't think normies should be using Linux in the first place. Or at least not without accepting they will need to adapt, not the other way around.
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>>42787181
Opinions are opinions but the fact of the matter is that the majority of people are normies, and that's what dictates things.
For example, you may think what you do and I think what I do (and we both agree on GNOME) but Factorio still added libdecor and added support for GNOME. They could have taken a stand and said, this is a game, we're not handling special decorations, our window just uses the default, if you don't like GNOME's default either ask them to change it or use a different DE with a better default. They could've said "normies shouldn't be using linux so stop using GNOME if you buy our game". But they didn't, they went ahead and bundled a GNOME library to cater to GNOME's bespoke requirements.
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>>42786908
>It's shit.
Its' devs and ideas on theming are, yes.
>It shits on established user interface paradigms.
How is that a bad thing? It's true that if you're used to having a start menu it's weird, i agree. But frankly I don't care about the start menu. It's just a glorified way to search for programs to me so the gnome workflow just removes an annoying popup to me.
>It is not configurable at all, and I'm not even talking about ricing.
True, that's a pity. Without fuckinf with dconf it's barren, I agree. Not having a way to minimize / close windows is annoying.
>>42787107
Exactly this, while I like the workflow, this behavior of theirs is absolutely baffling to me.
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>>42787276
>How is that a bad thing?
Computers are tools, not toys. We have decades of studies on ergonomics, we know what works. Gnome just invented a brand new interface with no good reason or justification, just to be different and "modern".
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>>42787331
You know what, that's fair.
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>2025
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
Why is there nothing that allows you to try all the different DEs/WMs I'm not going to download all of these to try them all
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>>42786850
>What's stopping them from just sticking to GTK3?
GTK3 will reach EOL when GTK5 gets released
>>42787007
>tranny imaginable
^:)
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>>42787399
I think Mageia allows it.
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>>42787276
The start menu was a revolution back in 1995 for a reason. People like it because they find it intuitive and organized. Removing it because of "muh microsoft can't be good must do it our own way" NIH syndrome is anti-user behavior.
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>>42787495
I'm not saying it's not. Just, I never found it really useful. Then again I was always used to macos where you open spotlight to look for what you need, or Sherlock back in, kek.
Even though I have used windows for a long longer than macos.
Idk, I guess since I'm not the best at reading text on a screen it just feels easier to muscle memory it up by just typing the name of the program then enter.
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Been a hectic, but fun, past week
Got dwm all configured to my liking on my new x220T, but the battery i orderd had what appeared to be some glue/gunk lodged in between some of the slots, so I got a new genuine battery coming in this Monday, hopefully it lasts
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horsefucker.club anon, get your certificates verified so i can use your email in aerc, or, does anyone have a workaround? does anyone here use aerc? what email clients do (You) use on there
https://aerc-mail.org/
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>>42788395
Eh I'm boring, thunderbirds both mobile and desktop. It works, it integrates with nextcloud. All good
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>>42787870
What problems would ponies attempt to solve with technology?
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>>42788434
cucked... alright, yea, GUI it is then
cause there ain't no way in hell im using ANY other email
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I still need to make that fucking Gopher post, bump.
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>>42786169
I was going to try it out but they don't sign their releases. After the Xubuntu debacle, that's a hard nope from me.
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So recently, I thought my monitor power brick died; I cut out the connector for later use but it turns out it was the connector that was broken (it's shorted somewhere inside). The powerbrick seems fine.

The question is: is it a good idea to reuse the powerbrick? It was basically nonstop shorted for a few days. There's obviously some kind of fuse inside since it wasn't even getting hot and it works fine now. But still, I'm not sure if I should just solder on a new connector and keep going business as usual.

It's pretty old (~14 years) and I already have new one ordered but it won't be here for a couple of days
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>>42790869
I good SMPS has built in short protection and shut down for protection.
One without would have gotten fried anyways and be unusable by now.
Just measure voltage when you've soldered on the new connector and you should be fine.
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>>42790905
Thanks, I did so, works like a charm
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>>42791260
>BMS pony
>stays in charge heh of those suspiciously affordable 18650 ponies you buy from Ali(corn)Express
>they're practically putting themselves in your cart, how could you not take them home
>BMS is a little bit crosseyed due to constantly looking out for health of each battery cell
>she's no klutz though, mind you; she promised (You) she'll stop these giddy fillies from getting too excited if you accidentally short them
>great companion for DIY projects
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i need dwm mare, ponified dwm
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>>42778617
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finally decided to get a screen replacement for my google pixel 3a today, the screen was completely useless, but the phone apparently works, paid the deposit today, and dropping it for same day pickup on Thursday
it has grapheneOS installed onto it, it's going to be fun seeing what horsefuckery nostalgia i left on it years ago
most definitely intimate videos of me and my lifesize encrypted on that thing
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>>42793403
can you still get graphene os on 3a? I was thinking of getting a 5a5g (has a headphone jack) but I thought it was no longer supported
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>>42780622
I like her.
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>>42793508
NTA, it's not supported anymore, but you still have the lts version that's basically just whatever Android version they stopped at.
I'd say maybe don't get a 5a 5g if it's anything like the 4a 5g (and it seems so looking at the SoC) it's kinda sluggish in grapheneOS, get LOS4microG or calyx on there instead the experience will be better, not as snappy as anything with a high refresh rate, but definitely better than graphene.
The main thing causing this slow down is graphene's way of spawning processes which doesn't allow caching / branching from one PID. Instead every app needs to spawn its own PID.
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>>42793802
which browser is that
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>>42793820
Epiphany aka GNOME Web, perhaps?
>web browser pony
>loves travelling, but obviously prefers to call it "surfing the web"
>quick at making friends with web server ponies, familiar with all the TCP/TLS hoofshakes used around the world
>she'll bring (You) cookies given away by friendly server ponies to their visitors, if you tell her you'd like those
>wears the toppest of hats to fit all the headers needed for proper communication
>somewhat of an artist herself, as a filly liked coloring books, nowadays paints pictures for (You) from HTML and CSS
>sometimes gets overwhelmed if server pones start telling her incredibly deep JS stories, but if you give her time she'll eventually get it and explain it to you
>practices strict hygiene routine, because she doesn't want to accidentally bring you some virus from foreign countries
>would love to be your whole world, but she'd feel bad about stealing your entire attention from other softmares, some of which literally let her do her job
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>>42793508
i looked into what GrapheneOS has been up to since I've been away from using the project, and yea, apparently the 3a is not officially supported, but from what I read, still able to run
I'm hoping, once the screen is fixed, it will just turn on with no issues, and I mean, it should anyway
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Steam Frame looks cool. I didn't fully expect them to go with ARM Linux for a standalone VR headset supposed to run x86 Windows + ARM Android games locally. So many things to go wrong, yet they're not playing it safe.
It's also nice that it's not marketed as a closed off VR only machine, but instead they mention it can be a general purpose computer, runs Arch ARM + KDE, and again they're contributing stuff to FEX instead of building completely proprietary solutions.
>captcha: DR4P0N
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>>42794450
Yeah, I'm pretty hyped for it! Can't wait to run containers in my VR headset. In a closet. Connected to a bunch of drives.
then take it off to just chill in Equestria
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>>42794450
It's a fucking Oculus clone, get outta here.
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>>42794450
it's apparent open nature already makes Meta's toys obsolete
hope pricing isn't shit
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>>42794450
Yeah I've been considering getting an Index for a while especially since the Frame doesn't have outside-in tracking but I watched Linus' video and if it really is that good I'll probably just wait for the Frame now, the x86-on-ARM part is interesting and it being way more portable would be neat. Also the Index still costs 1k so even if the Frame is around that it'll be a way better value. Again all provided the tracking can actually compete. To be fair I have never used VR so I might not notice anyways but outside-in is supposed to be superior.
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>>42794503
Get a second-hand Index, camera tracking is a joke.
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>>42794478
Personally I have less trust for Meta to not take the opportunity of cameras on a headset. It's literally free money with some sick gainz profiling/advertising scheme, they just need to come up with one. Valve has a cleaner business model, they sell games and CS2 gambling as a gray area side hustle, kek. Also, if I'm not mistaken you were forced to have a FB/Oculus account to use the headset (=> connect it to internet, accept some ToS, whatever), and of course the bootloader was locked except for some exploit. https://github.com/darknight1050/quest-bootloader-unlocker
Tinfoil hat aside, I did treat those Android Quest headsets as just VR toys from a sketchy company. The "it's just a computer, lol" of Deck was appealing to me, and I like how this sounds in Frame too, even though I'll probably only use it for Beat Saber and maybe Jellyfin.
>>42794503
I have an Index and one thing I thought I'd miss would be the straps in Knuckles controllers, but apparently they'll sell those separately. Sigh, but I'm still relieved - I really liked how I could loosen the palm in SteamVR Home, grab a plush giraffe from shelf in that default environment, stretch it to be big and pretend I'm petting or booping a pony.
I didn't do that often, but it was still a mesmerizing experience every single time.
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>>42794524
I'll wait for reviews for sure.

>>42794526
Seeing the straps on the controllers and the fact they still have the finger tracking is definitely also nudging me more to the Frame.
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>>42794503
Potentially shitty tracking aside, by going mobile/ARM they conceded VR to being just for gimmick casual games like beat saber.
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>>42794728
They claim to have better wireless streaming from PC by reducing resolution outside of areas where your eyes are focused, that foveated streaming thing. I've always considered streaming like on Quest to be a hack rather than proper solution for those headsets, whether wireless or wired, but we'll see in reviews whether it's as bad. So far saw good first impressions, they include a 6 GHz AP in a USB stick which makes it seem they believe in their approach.
Same concerns as with tracking, honestly. I wish it had OLED too. Pricing will matter a lot. But anyway,
>remember, no preorders.
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>>42793403
tomorrow is the day, pixel 3a back soon!
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>>42794728
You are not supposed to play "serious" games on your headset, not now, not ever. The Quest is casualcore to the max. The Frame seems to be focusing primarily on wireless streaming, and I wouldn't be surprised if doing that well required enough processing power that getting it to a point of being able to play lightweight games standalone didn't require too much extra effort and weight, so why not.
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>>42795896
>You are not supposed to play "serious" games on your headset, not now, not ever.
There was still a glimmer of hope with the release of Index and Hlalyx...
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>>42795916
Ok my phrasing wasn't ideal, but the conversation was about the Frame having an ARM CPU so I was hoping the context would make it clear. My point is that you can't play Alyx on an Index, you play it on your PC and you just use the Index as a display. That's what I meant when saying you're not supposed to play serious games on the headset itself.
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my 2012 15" marebook pro. ive posted her before on here but i wanted to post her again since she was an ewaste rescue. bought her alongside 4 other macbook pros for $20 a piece and all that was wrong with it was an expanded battery. another $20 for a used oem battery later and she's like new. The battery was at 85% capacity, so not exactly like new, but it lasts long enough to get several hours out of it. ive been using it more frequently recently to get more of a feel of using it as opposed to my smaller elitebook, and despite its age its pretty good. havent done any upgrades besides the ram and ssd. she also runs macos sequoia, and runs it a lot better than i expected. havent tried tahoe yet, but i might do a trial run of it on another ssd in the future.
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>>42797007
>Apple
kill yourself
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>>42797007
>OCLP
Right as I was about to suggest it, kek.
Nice appul
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>>42797007
>shinodage
Based filly belly enjoyer
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>>42788844
Probably depends on how much superior/limited magic is. Enchanted item is potentially
zero waste and infinitely recyclable. But mechanical/electrical equipment might
be cheaper since you don't need unicorn for production. Could be relatively simpler as well
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>>42796866
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>>42797007
very nice anon, she quiet?
right now a 2011 11 inch marebook air looks comfy, and being able to actually fit it into my backpack's dedicated laptop bag, the best part
maybe i'll get one soon
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