Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets editionWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/Good albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Prev: >>123708351
>>123737423Cant believe Tony is an Anti-Semite
which prog musicians like anime lolis?
What's the last guitar part/solo you heard where you were like, "Wow, this really pushes the boundaries of guitar playing"?
>>123737941
>>123737941me and my band
thoughts
Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols" is a groundbreaking prog album that challenges the conventions of its time with complex structures and themes. The album's raw energy can be likened to a furious overture, where each track embodies the chaotic spirit of rebellion, in contrast to the polished aesthetics typically associated with progressive rock. Tracks like "Anarchy in the UK" can be seen as epic movements filled with intricate time signatures and sudden shifts, mirroring the emotional turbulence of the prog ethos. The lyrical depth, steeped in social critique, serves as a philosophical narrative akin to a concept album, exploring themes of alienation and disillusionment. While defying the lush instrumentation associated with prog, the Pistols craft a visceral experience that redefines the genre, making their debut not just an album, but a radical manifesto that resonates with the fervor and complexity of an avant-garde symphony. Sex Pistols truly were one of the greatest prog acts of all times.
>>123738116i love Popol Vuh, Klaus Schulze, Ash Ra Tempel, Ashra, Harmonia, Cluster, A.R. & Machines, Dom, Neu!, Can, Rufus Zuphall, Guru Guru, Faust, Between, La Dusseldorf, Xhol Caravan, Yatha Sidhra, Brainticket, the rest i've either not heard yet or are TRASH.
where did everyone go?
many times i've answered this guy, even taking time to go get links and shit.>>123736852>>123735066and then nothing.maybe, if i'm lucky, someone replies about 1 in 20 posts.don't be so lazy cunts and expect to be fed
>>123738315talking to the wind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzll5i9zMW0Is this prog, /prog/?
>>123738421that is the first time i've asked that, and no one answered except one person that said "A lot of it"
>>123738881yeah, did variations on that a few times, didn't even get a 'like what?'
>Its been a long long time>hasn't it:'(
King Crimson - Live in Bonn, 6 June 2000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-qfW1UL-vQ
>>123738992cringe
>>123737980The first time I saw video of Adrian Belew playing with Talking Heads
>>123738988>And all this time has passed me by>It doesn't seem to matter now
I LOVE 666 BY APHRODITE’S CHILD!!!
>>123739302THE MUSICCHANNNNGEEEEES
Roger Waters' lyrics are not significantly dissimilar from the musings one might expect to encounter in a 14-year-old's composition notebook.
Acknowledge Kansas
>>123739617a guy i knew passed off Time as his poem in english class, and got gushing praise from the teacher. until someone ratted him out
>>123739617I love how he portrays himself as incredibly empathetic to Syd’s mental problems while he was the one who kicked him out of the band and essentially ghosted him. Dave was the one who kept in touch with Syd and helped him out financially.
>>123739900true... and both Nick and Rick played on Syd's solo stuff, right?
KC chads, what version of USA do you like the most?The OG but incomplete and modified? (1975)The 2005 mix with all the tracks from the gig? or the 40th anniversary of USA mix?
>>123739909yea
>>123739929so, um... everyone but Rog. huh
>>123739936Roger produced his albums
>headphones died in the middle of a songdamn
>headphones gave birth in the middle of a song damn
>>123739021nah you are
>remixes you favorite album in your pathHow much does it improves? :)
>>123740527>WHY WHY CAN WE NEVER SURE TILL THEY DIE
>>123739913this question has been posted so many times, but never gets answered, i've only heard the original.
Holy Shit
>>123739913The original version is basically spicy SABB.Larks Pt. II benefits a lot from the overdubs.
>>123740863For me it's Foooꟻ
>>123722308
>>123740753
Can anyone recommend any keyboard/organ-heavy prog albums? Stuff from the 70s, preferably. And yes, I've already listened to the big ones
is Vangelis prog?
>>123741869Yes
>>123741872but speaking specifically about his solo albums?
>>123741869Sometimes
>>123741896Aphrodittidorhpa - 686
>>123741896>THIS NUUN SIHT
>>123735302I'm sorry but this makes no sense to me. People will watch live performances of anything whether it is film, music, stage plays, etc. A live show is usually a different interpretation or progression of a composition. King Crimson obviously being the biggest example of this as they evolved and grew their music with each subsequent live performance. I guess if you just don't get it, you just don't. It's not your thing and that's fine but to call it retarded is ignorant
>>123740960>>123740828ive heard the OG and the 2013 mix, and im more inclined for the 2013 mix since its the complete concert and also im not a big fan of overdubs
I fucking love this song bros. Never been that into Procul Harem but this performance of White Shade of Pale is beautiful and I have a newfound appreciation for them. Was this like the first prog ballad?https://youtu.be/xM_N2O-gzP4
>>123742071For me, I am a completionist so I prefer the 2013 mix as well but the original is still a classic and was (for most people) the West's introduction to KC
>>123742366if you REALLY stretch the definition, but not quite hard enough to include the beatles, then yes Whiter Shade of Pale was the first prog song
who wins
>>123742558deR nosmson Red > King CrimirC gniK
>>123742558Could Robert Fripp work with Robert Fripp?
>>123742608Could Bill Bruford handle two Robert Fripps?
>>123742647two fripps one broof
I heard you like ass
>>123742698>m<
More ass
This cover is already perfection, I can't improve on it in either way
For friendship
>invents proghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEoVvswOcI
>>123743068Who?
>>123743093Yes
>>123743103No, it’s The Who
>>123743093Sometimes
>>123743125oh, the band?
you lost your ass privileges
>>123742533The Beatles never came close to sniffing prog. I wish retards would stop with this nonsense.
>>123743404if two rogers meet do they annihilate each other?
>>123739913>KC chadsThis is a desperate appeal.
>>123744380He meant Giles and Giles who 100% post on this board
>>123744387He clearly meant King Crimson, you retarded fuck.
>>123743404Just when it finally wasn’t a man, fag found >>123743712A day in the life is an essential part of the story. The Beatles are frustrating in that they opened the door, but themselves never really crossed it to go and explore
>>123744761How is that song prog in the slightest? Don't tell me that it's a multi-section song. That's not prog.
>>123744904Bro don’t be so stupid, please
>>123739619I acknowledges that pic related is their best album and this is their best songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_68QK_iLY
>>123744482angry retard
Good morning, /prog/. What are we listening to today?
>>123742006it was obviously an extremely funny joke (i didn't post it though)
>>123744978probably MAGMA by MAGMA, or possibly even MAGMA 2 by MAGMA
>>123745001Based.
why were all the musicians who left King Crimson such cowards that went on to trash Fripp (who is the only reason anyone knows who they are)
>>123745011WHAT WAS ROBERT FRIPP FAVORITE FOOD
>>123744978Camel by Camel
>>123745011Bruford, Belew, Levin and MacDonald didn't need Fripp.
>>123745138>MacDonald
>>123744978Hatfield and the North by Hatfield and the North
>>123745151Uh ya
>>123745138WHAT ARE ROBERT FRIPP FAVORITE PONY ?
is Fripp an Asukafag or Reifag?
>>123744938Explain, retard.
>>123745389Earn it
Christian Vander vs Robert Frippwho would win in a fist fight?
>>123745509Retard
>>123745664fripp because vander broke his arm last month
IS
IT
PROG?!?!?
is there any prog made by dogs?
Is it dog
>>123746001Have you heard the news? The dogs are dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuiDgF9bEN0
DID YOU KNOW THE ROBERT FRIPP HAD GLASSES
>>123746001Seamus
Thoughts?
>>123743068We finally have the answer to >>123737941
>>123747225I think the story of this is hilarious: Magma are too weird for the normies (obviously), so, guys, let’s write an album of more normal music.Vander: ok.And then he submits exactly the same kind of magma with hitler shrieks…Vander, wtf? “Listen to the lyrics, it’s not about Kobaia”………lol
>>123747225WHAT ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ya fooking CUNT
ARE YOU EVEN CAPABLE OF THOUGHTS?
>>123744978Just started listening to Kãrtëhl.
apparently not
>>123747225More than 2 hours later you still haven’t given any of yours
>>123748467
>>123747225>>123748569What a fucking loser
IS IT FROG?
>>123742558>2 fripps and a broof vs 2 wettonsdepends on how many substances the wettons are on
>>123747225Looks like you’re still a cunt
>>123746001no one has a serious answer?
>>123749000NoThe problem is no one here has serious questions Can’t be bothered to stay around for answers given
>>123749062it's a serious question
is there any Prog made by Frogs?
>>123746001
>>123749082what breeds are they?
>>123749128the one on the left in the bottom pic is an afghan hound
>>123748612>>123748952>>123747833Fuck all of (you).
>>123749636>>123747225Thoughts?
>>123749636>>123749652>>123747225Thoughts?
>>123747420I thought the same thing. They were already pioneering Zehul and it was difficult to break from that mold, but I still appreciate this album as a fan of jazz.
>>123747225>>123747420To be fair Univeria Zekt does sound like a more accessible zeuhl even with vander's screamingSounds even closer to regular progressive rock/jazz rock of that era.
>>123749685Are you the guy who posted the album or someone else?
>>123749763Surprise: normies are just as scared away when the lyrics don’t talk about aliens, who would’ve guessed
>under 3.5 on Progarchivesi wish i could like it, i really do, but i just can't.
>>123749793*normalfags
>>123749807what about scores on wikipedia
>>123749962i only listen to albums that don't have any at all
>>123749807Get on my level
>over 3.5 on progarchives i wish i could like it, but i just can't.
Heaven and Earth (ProjeKct X)
is it really prog?
>>123750475Is it thoughts?
Thoughtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOvp13MT2qs
>>123750475>>123750530What did you think of it?
>>123750572I like it, citizen erased is my fav song from them
>>123750562Love Spock's Beard. Great stuff. What more can you say?
>>123750562Man I love me some Video unavailable
>>123749807>Progarchives
>>123750749Is it a dog?
>less than a 7/10 by Scaruffii wish i could like it, i really do.
>Less than a B+ by Christgau I wish I could like it, I really do.
>>123740863yes it's good. a shame we don't discuss this band more
>>123747225It's ok. If someone is not remotely into zeuhl or jazz rock then this can be a decent and more out there album, but for people who already love Magma this album is just ok, very been there done that.
>>123750907so the only prog album you like is Red?
>>123750960Yes. I also let other men fuck my wife.
>>123750983is Christgau a cuckold?
>>123751002>It dates back to a disastrous three-month affair (Carola's, the only time either of us has approached physical infidelity, you'll have to believe that)
>>123751039lel, can't say i'm surprised.
is it PROG?
best prog albums for autumn?
>>123751100yes, Progressive Neofolk
>>123751122https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSLB_htKSYs
Generic question that won’t get any follow through. Thoughts?
>>123751476it's not that generichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxOAhsngMyc
>>123739913why is the cover of this album a hand holding a deodorant can?
>>123751516https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX4ELjQuJIY
>>123751122the most Autumn King Crimson album
>>123751716It's clearly a bar of silver
>>123751122Islands
>>123751783are you autistic?
>>123751783it's a potato
>>123751819>>123751716it's a TAMBOURINE
>>123751828>i sped my way upstream>she played my tambourinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2bTdVCV9fs
>>123751798fuck you asshole, i already FUCKING POSTED KING CTRIMSON FUCKHJJKHJNHJ
>>123751122>>123751853
>>123751853>She was my ballerine>A woman of seventeenwhat did he mean by this?
>she carries me>through days of apathy>she watches over me
>>123752065>rock stars fuck 17 year oldsnoo... dude no way
Currently masturbating to Romany gilmours voice and/or feet
>>123752240Ok
>>123752186too old
The great names of classical music have their place because of a couple of different reasons1 - They created a whole new genre by breaking new rules (Beethoven by creating classical music from baroque music, for example)2 - They absolutely nailed an exisiting musical form ( Bach knocking counterpoint and fugue out of the ballpark)3 - Through harnessing a new technology (Mozart adopting the piano when it was a relatively new instrument)4 - Through exceptional skill, producing music that peers struggled to play (Vivaldi being an example)I would argue that the beatles performed well on several of these criteria :The new genre they created was "progressive rock", the musical form they nailed was guitar based pop, the new technology they pioneered was the recording studio itself (as evidenced on "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band", where they cut up tape etc).
>>123752760don't care, stop posting this ugly, talentless freak.
>>123752760The Moody Blues created prog rock, not the Beatles
>>123752788trvth nvkehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCFnJkru7zw
Amazing album, thanks for the recommendation, Astra poster
any other Zeuhl albums/artists like this?
>>123752788>>123752860they suck tho
>>123753016Get a job.
>>123753027Okay, where?
>>123752788ah-hem >>123743068
top 5 Prog-Folk albums?1. Tim Buckley - Starsailor2. Comus - First Utterance3. Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude4. Pearls Before Swine - Balaklava5. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft
>>123753053Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band
>>123753118that's not five
>>123753053Forest — Full Circle
>>123753133i know, just wanted an excuse to post third ear band
>>1237530531. First Utterance by Comus2. Third Ear Band by Third Ear Band3. Mice and Rats in the Loft by Jan Dukes de Grey4. In The Realm Of A Dying Sun by Dead Can Dance5. Thunder Perfect Mind by Current 936. Happy Sad by Tim Buckley7. Maaäet by Tenhi8. The Gospel of Inhumanity by Blood Axis9. From The Witchwood by Strawbs10. Mount Eerie by The Microphones>b-but some of these aren't prooogfuck off retard
>>123752926fuuuck yeah
>>123753053real 1s know
if i download Apple music's and Spotify's lossless music its not the same (in terms of audio quality) as downloading that same music in FLAC from rutracker or soulseek?
WORDS FROM THE WISE ENCOURAGE YOUCARRIES ALL YOU'RE TAKING ONWORDS FROM THE WISE DISCOURAGE TOOMANY PEOPLE WHEN THINGS GO WRONG
>>123740753he doesn't
>>123751122Wind & Wuthering
>There is in fact more earth than sea:o
>>123755101(not true, by the way)
>>123740753The only mixes I really like are the Jethro Tull ones
i regret to inform i no longer like kc for no particular reason at all
>>123756013https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xki7zFcKOHU
>>123756112jesting aside, you did make me realize fripp is the first individual collaborator to appear twice on the chart
>>123753513someone pls answer :(
>>123753513spotify doesn't offer lossless and i don't know how you're gonna download from apple musicbut lossless is lossless. 44 khz 16 bit is perfectly fine. there have been some cases where people convert mp3s to lossless files to dupe people but it's not likely
Great album, fantastic, awesome, amazing, 10/10. What did I think of it? Thoughts?
>>123758362
>>123750672Thoughts?
Prog that starts with the letter N
>>123758679No
>>123758708Thoughts?
>>123758850Sometimes
Hey this is outright theft of a Hendrix riffhttps://youtu.be/-BwrjbhFTKg
>>123742764i actually think this is really cool, would have been just as dope
>>123742764i only like the title track in this album, for me it's barely different compared to Tormato that at least has Don't Kill the Whale
>>123758362>Thoughts?Great album, fantastic, awesome, amazing, 10/10.
any prog made by Frogs on a Log?
>>123759516it's a shitty album, with a shitty ass on it, i mean come on, this is sick.
>>123758679the album name or band name?
any Prog made by Cats?
>>123756013>>123756112god RYM is awful, if you use RYM and care about the ratings you are disqualified from listening to music, if you use it just for finding albums, you should still probably kill yourself, but that's fine i guess, as long as you don't care about the ratings, read or post "reviews" or ratings on albums.
PROGarchives vs RYM vs Sputnik vs Allmusic or whatever the fuck it's called vs that other one
>>123759803Progarchives >>>>>> restas flawed as it is, it's still a good site for finding new stuff and reading about progthe rest are full of clueless retards
>>123759821Progarchives is obviously the best for prog, but i listen to other shit too, i wish there was a good site for other genders of music.
>>123759855me toowanted one specifically for jazz and classicalrym is full of fantano-drones, even the reviews bother me to no endprogarchives is niche, but the fanbase is dedicated enough to pull up a good job
>>123759947I stumbled on a few when trying to find jazz albums
Genesis Piper Club Rome 18 April 1972https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcnkjvHXwaU&pp=ygURZ2VuZXNpcyBsaXZlIDE5NzI%3D
>>123759821>the rest are full of clueless retardsso is progarchives
>>123759947RYM is full of pseuds who missed the boat on being professional music critics
Progarchives suffers from the same problem as garbage sites like RYM, which is breaking down a genre (in this case: Progressive rock) into 15–20 inane sub-genres.
anyone into Birdsongs of The Mesozoic
>>123761504yes
A friend said that pic rel is the best avant-prog/RIO album you could listen to. Why is he right? Thoughts?
>>123759614Based
is it prog?
>>123761446Making things that sound similar to other things easier to find isn't a "problem"
>>123761552he's right, thoughts?
>>123761649I thought he was right too, but I want other thoughts.
>>123761552The line-up continued to change due to Fripp's tyrannical nature, and finally the guitarist found himself alone. He did not miss the opportunity and refounded King Crimson on a more jazz than rock basis, surrounding himself with the talents of Bill Bruford (drums, ex Yes ), John Wetton (bass, ex Family ), David Cross (violin). The sound at the same time harsh and fluid, skewed and geometric, cerebral and violent of Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) represents another important achievement, although it has lost all the pathos of the early King Crimson. Lark's Tongues In Aspic is one of the most exemplary suites of Fripp's career, while Book Of Saturday and Easy Money are among the best gag songs in the repertoire. Fripp was standing out as the inventor of one of the most characteristic and influential styles on the guitar.
>>123761676>Fripp's tyrannical nature>muh tyranny badbased Fripp
>>123743068>the who created progI should get into the who one of these days
>>123761552Because it’s listenable
who REALLY created Prog?
>>123762291nobody
>>123762291God
>>123762301who created nobody?
>>123762372nothing
>>123762382who created nothing?
>>123762291Didnt you read? The who did
>>123762394something
The Who is the most overrated, god awful band ever
>>123762423Who?
>>123762440Yes
>>123762413...The Beatles?
>>123762451Are you talking about the band?
>>123762451The Band?
>>123762484>>123762486no, The Who (Yes The Band)
>>123762497Ok, now I am REALLY confused
>>123762440Sometimes
>>123761676how do you talk about Lark's without mentioning Muir?he has more merit than anyone in the band
>>123761615UmmmmNo
>>123762674it's on progarchives though
>>123762291>who REALLY created ProgYeah that's what I said
>>123753053>>123753135>>123753200>no Harmonium pathethic 1. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison2. Harmonium - L'heptade 3. Gryphon - Midnight mushrumps4. Séguin – Récolte De Rêves5. The Strawbs - Just a collection of antiques and curios (rick wakeman plays keys here)
>>123762774their first album was the best actually
>>123762774Basé
>>123762774fuck i knew i was forgetting something. >>123753200 i need to listen to their albums again.
>>123762804I was close to putting it in there but i wan't in the mood to make an harmonium shitpost. Have you heard the Symphonic album? It's really nice. I'm honestly surprised they're (actually just serge) such a big deal in french canada. Then again any dutch band that had minor international succes gets praised to hell here as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfrJW5je6sA&ab_channel=GSIMusique
the only good Prog Metal
>>123764360ahemhttps://youtu.be/YnGt8OdtgL8
>>123764360
>>123750475As prog as Green Day when they make long songs
>>123764548They have long songs? I didn’t really keep up with them after dookie
>>123764641>after dookiewhat does this mean? did they shit on stage or something?
>>123764656>did they shit on stage or something?that's all they do on stage
HOLY SMOKES SOMEONE BLEW UP THE POPE
I like how everyone goes nuts playing their part and Pat is like "yeah, I'm helping"https://youtu.be/8FbYmMXE6Lw
>King crimson is like Genesis if everyone but Peter left>Fripp broke up KC the first time to play with PeteDamn...
>>123764989so does that mean mcdonald and giles is trick of the tail? or is hackett greg lake in this comparison so it's more like duke
>>123765018Yes. And McDonald and Giles is better than ITWOP.
>>123765077>YesThe Band?
>>123765077that's easy to say. What i don't think you're prepared to admit yet is that it's better than ITCOTCK
>>123756112>I--I could be king....crimsonBravo Adrian
>>123765144No. Peter Gabriel (the band)
>>123765077This is very true!
>>123765077kek, no it's not, stop with this shit meme, ITWOP is a masterpiece, literally a better version of ITCOTCK, McDonald and Giles is ok, it's like a worse version of ITCOTCK.
>>123765455>ITWOP is a masterpieceno>McDonald and Giles is okno
>>123765540yes
>>123765572The Band?
>>123765582Sometimes
>>123739302Marching Beast slaps
ITWOP works great as a thematic sequel to in the court. carries over the same ideas and themes, but the music is irrecoverably different having been written by fripp instead of ian mcdonald, despite his attempts at sorta ripping him off like with C&C or the title track.McDonald and Giles, while it's not eerie and depressing like Court, is musically the next logical step from court; It's much more like a Sequel to court in a songwriting sense. Pictures of a City sounds like Schizoid Man but different, while Suite in C sounds like Schizoid Man but EvolvedIf you came to KC for the apocalypse and gloom and greg lake's buttery choir boy voice then yeah i would understand liking ITWOP more as a sequel but my preference is fully with McD&G for being less contrived
>>123765699Much of ITWOP was sketched out before McDonald and Giles left. Pictures of a City had been in their setlist for months and was based on a Donovan cover they were doing even before that, and Devil's Triangle evolved from the Holst Mars adaptation. The album was basically just a grab bag of old and new stuff that Fripp and Sinfield put together.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6JnPT4vJXEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYzItxoa99Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cmn3HudRuc
ITWOP sucks because a band as talented as King Crimson should constantly be experimenting and growing. The only new thing on ITWOP is Cat Food, which is coincidentally the best song on the album.
>>123766023>a band as talented as King Crimson should constantly be experimenting and growingi remember when i was 14 and said shit like this
>>123766247>artistic growth is... le bad! Crazy how 14-year-old you had it right and present-day you is so wrong
>>123766268i never said "artistic growth is bad" i think there is a difference between "artistic growth" and mindless "experimentation" just for the sake of it, King Crimson is experimental but experimental in ways that make sense and sound good.
>>123766315>King Crimson is experimentalExcept for when they played it safe and made an album that was a carbon copy of their previous album
>McDonald and Giles vs ITWOPkek, are people really arguing McD&G is better than ITWOP? McD&G is just a Beatles parody, it has some nice moments and it's pretty funny, but that's about it.
>>123766361>made an album that was a carbon copy of their previous albumthat's such an exaggeration, fucking zoomers, you can't hear the differences because your brain isn't fully developed, if you think any of the songs are "carbon copies" of songs on ITCOTCK you are retarded.
>made an album that was a carbon copy of their previous albumspeaking of... i think beat is about as good as discipline. much better album than itwop and much better as a sequel>>123766362your mother was a beatles parody
New bread:>>123766473>>123766473>>123766473
>>123766404This is not true. It's more poppy. And requiem is the worse thing Fripp ever did.
>>123766488it is 'more poppy' but it's still king crimson. heartbeat could've been a huge hit if they didn't always insert off-time fiddling into their songs but they do. Requiem was their last true prog rock song and i love it. it's an atmosphere that KC never crafted before, maybe like starless and bible black title track but if they made it 10 years later
