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Is hip hop beatmaking the most autistic form of musicianship?

>need an encyclopedia brain full of knowledge regarding samples
>best beats are sampled from obscure/niche records that only an autist would know
>need an ear highly sensitive to sound in order to perfectly chop and loop the sample
>beats are repetitive; looping itself is something the autistic brain craves
>beats composed almost entirely by a machine
>most hip hop producers are solitary folk who prefer to work alone with their massive collections of hoarded records; they are also almost always nerds
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Almost. a lot of that noisy free folk is also pretty autistic
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AMNN NHH
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>>128654289
its up there but theres other sample based music thats even more niche/autistic. plunderphonics, sound art, vaporwave etc
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>>128654289
>Is hip hop beatmaking the most autistic form of musicianship?
If this was the case, far more hip hop producers beside Kanye would be diagnosed as autistic.
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>musicianship
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>>128654342
>far more hip hop producers beside Kanye would be diagnosed as autistic.

What is medical racism?

You do realize Black folks are rarely ever diagnosed with autism because telltale signs of autism are often written off as "Black culture", right?
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>>128654289
Neofolk is way more autismo.
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>>128654335
>plunderphonics
What is this?
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>>128654289
who's the gay black kid?

https://rumble.com/v1v1js2-corporate-world-domination-and-alien-mind-control-part-4.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v
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Who are some beatmakers you think are on the spectrum (besides Ye)?
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>>128654779
music thats basically entirely made of samples arranged in a song structure - like avalanches, negativland and stuff like that
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>>128654324
Imagine being autistic and loving the same person who ordered the deaths of thousands of autistic people.
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>>128654851
All of them.
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>>128654397
Damn, maybe I need to hang with more black people if they're cool with the 'tism.
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>>128654289
>>128654324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3gc09kjQE

Interesting.
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>>128654324
that tweet is satire. the overdramatic “i can’t breathe” gives it away
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>>128655959
There are people who unironically make posts like that. Trannies/commies/faggots mostly.
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>>128655959
>“i can’t breathe” gives it away
How?
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>>128654324
>censoring who tweeted it when you can easily search up the tweet on twitter itself to find who tweeted it
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>>128654289
Being a rap producer takes little to no talent
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>>128655756
Damn, the tragedy of Kanye is that by becoming famous to secure his autonomy he actually gave up any control over how the world perceives him. No wonder he went full Heil Hitler. By taking the most extreme position he kind of forces the public to come to a consensus he want even if it's a heinous or disingenuous one
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>>128656240
I did search for it. It's clearly a fake tweet.
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>>128654851
DESU I can't tell if Alc gives me autism vibes or if he's just a Jew.
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>>128654289
Yeah why not?
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>>128654851
some anon think Madlib is
You'll him under every Madlib thread
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>>128654851
Pharrell.
He tries to act otherwise, but the real him is still the marching band autist he was in High School.
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>>128655756
>assburgerism is no longer a thing
Damn I'm old
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>>128656374
This is clearly autism:
https://youtu.be/MpFfIyMqTHs?si=Xd1EBRhPcbNDDz4H
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>>128658333
Madlib does give off nerdy Aspie vibes though. Watch his interviews and you’ll notice he barely talks at all and always changes the subject back to music.
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>>128659452
taking a random piece of music and jumbling it up and talking over it wow yeah not autism and not music
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>>128654324
Noooooo not the teen boyarinos!
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wait..... you make beats in your bedroom???!!! YOU MAKE BEATS?????? whydidnt anyone tell me about this kid HE MAKES BEATS
A BOOM BOOM CTSH A BOOM BOOM CTSH
OH MY GOD THIS KID MAKES BEATS
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>>128654289
One common trait of autism is the constant need to be in control. So it makes sense that a lot of music producers of any genre would be autistic. However, with sample-based music the producer is in total control and can produce an entire musical epic all on their own just using samples. So yes, it’s perfectly logical that most beat makers would be raging autists.
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>brain full of knowledge
>hip hop
ahahahahahahahah
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>>128655756
“PDA” is no different than regular autism. I’m autistic and have all of these traits. Every autistic person I know is also a control freak.
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>>128654851
He is either autistic or has downs syndrome
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>>128654289
>need an encyclopedia brain full of knowledge regarding samples

they literally just ripped shit from their mom's record collection and whatever they heard on the radio
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWi6-gyJb60
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>>128654324
I'm glad not much has changed.
Back when I was a teen we'd burn our notebooks at the end of the semester and paint swastikas throughout the park with the ash.
None of us were Nazis, but we enjoyed being provocative.
I had a gag where I'd write hate symbols next to my poems in washroom stalls. Inevitably we were given a lecture in the gymnasium about hate speech, the lads were giggling and we put a straw into this fat retards ass crack, then we told him he was thirsty and poured chocolate milk down his trouser straw. He begged us to stop verbally, but never did anything physically to stop us.
Those were the days.
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Chopping samples isn't the same as making beats really. I view it more like, a sort of remixing. Making beats means loading samples of instruments up in the MPC or using a drum machine, and creating your beats from scratch.

I guess these days the kids are all using clip launchers or some shit though.
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>>128654289
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>>128663085
One-eye symbolism, illuminaughty
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>>128655646
>>128654397
that'd be like Chief Keef for one
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>>128655756
I just watched this, but I feel like there wasn't a punchline. This guy >>128655756 provided such a point.
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>>128664968
Lost it.
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>>128655756
I'm surpised this only has 600+ views and is 3 weeks old
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>>128654851
>didn't talk much
>lifelong obsession with music
>spent all day in the basement obsessively making music to the point where his mother had to drag him upstairs so he would eat
>compulsive hoarder of vinyl records
>needed his records meticulously organized
>reportedly "thought like a mathematician"
>was highly eccentric
>had an unusually high number of "eccentric" people around him (autists tend to get along better with other autists)
>had noticeable emotional control issues
>had a damn good ear and strong sensitivity to sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL3ENrZwjmw
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9z8C-ZIPy-/

Hmmmmm, sounds autismo to me.

Should also be noted that autism and lupus (the illness that killed him) are HIGHLY co-morbid.
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>>128664968
Jay-Z always looks like a retarded caveman, yet he's a billionaire.
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>>128665641
Is Keef actually diagnosed?
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>>128654289
>Is hip hop beatmaking the most autistic form of musicianship?
That would be math rock.
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>>128664968
big kek energy on this one
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>>128656374
Jews are notoriously autistic. Back in the day, being a rabbi increased your chances of getting a nice Jewish wife more than being rich. Jewish women like nerds, not jocks, and nerds are almost always autistic af. Also, anyone who has read the Talmud and/or kabbalistic works like the Zohar know that Jewish religious writing is autism on autism. The Talmud literally contains three pages of debate on what makes an egg kosher, I shit you not.
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>>128654851
Nicholas Craven
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>>128656439
He's just Fr**ch. Also, I miss his old style, around 2011, the Conspiracy EPs and so.
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>>128667397
Not autistic, just Canadian.
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>>128654851
Better question: who in hip hop ISN'T autistic?
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>>128654289
beat digging is definitely an autistic pursuit, but there are more autistic forms of musicianship
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>>128654289
>best beats are sampled from obscure/niche records that only an autist would know
>Posts a picture of Kanye who famously samples the most well known songs in the world
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>>128667946
>samples the most well known songs in the world
Name those songs.
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>>128667997
Through the Wire - Chaka Khan
All Falls Down - Lauryn Hill
Stronger - Daft Punk
Blood on the Leaves - Nina Simone
Just to name a few.
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>>128664968
What even is Hov's phenotype? I've never seen a Black man that looks like him.
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>>128666378
>reportedly "thought like a mathematician"
This is the kind of shit people who have never taken calculus 1 will say if you're moderately technical at anything.
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>>128654324
Where can I find these banned bangers? I NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM!
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>>128654289
Good, quality beat making takes real, true talent just like anything else does. Not anyone can sit down and make a dope, hit record. It takes time, practice, commitment, dedication. It comes from the heart as does any other passion. It's a form of expression. Anyone that makes beats is expressing themselves through the beat, even if it's just a little bit. It's an art form. It's the same as making a painting. Yeah anyone can grab a brush and paint, but not anyone can create a beautiful portrait.

And just like with anything else not every good beat maker gets recognized or the recognition they deserve. There's really dope producers out there who've never been discovered and not every one who makes it is truly talented. It all depends on where you are and who you know and who dedicated and committed you are. A lot of people do it just for a hobby, just because it makes them feel good.

Kanye did a lot of work with Jay-Z and Roc-a-fella plus when his mom died he started saying and doing outlandish, shocking things an I think that's where much if his lore comes from.
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>>128654289
You could definitely make a case for it, though I feel most popular rappers are pretty neurotypical

Noise music on the other hand really is I feel or even more so avant-garde classical
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>>128654289
actually it's retarded zoomers speedrunning beats with pre existing assets.
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>>128670693
Autism is heavily UNDERDIAGNOSED in blacks due to medical racism.
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>>128654324
Nature is healing!
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No but the lyrical, internal race-coding is.
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>>128654289
>Is hip hop beatmaking music?
No.
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>>128661633
You stated at the start of your sentence that it is music.
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>>128672225
or... their parents are less likely to want their child to be diagnosed as autistic and less likely to consider mental illness to be real in comparison to white parents.
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>>128673265
Why?
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>>128674063
Who knows.
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“Autism” isn’t real. It’s just CPTSD acquired in early childhood.
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>>128675016
Prove it.
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>>128675199
Read up on trauma based mind control.
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“Hip hop beatmaking” is money laundering 75% of the time. You think producers are actually selling beats for $100k? No, that’s all a cover for criminal activity. It’s no different than modern “art” sales being a cover for criminal activity.
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>>128668053
keep in mind new york city is a well-known interracial nightmare
he could be anything
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>>128666505
let's be real:

what makes you think he *don't* got autism?
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>>128666443
it's as easy as that when you make "The Deal"
genius not required
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>>128667715
I'd think Canibus isn't.
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>>128668703
bruh wtf this site is gay as fuck jfc
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>>128654289
no its the most nigger zoomer form.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gdLhQAbyLwQ
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>>128677871
meanwhile you post a short-form link
doesn't embed dumbass
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>>128675295
>You think producers are actually selling beats for $100k?

Dr. Dre does, to my knowledge.
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>>128668703
https://files.catbox.moe/9qpnzx.mp4

HH full song.
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>>128678074
got an audio file too?
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>>128654289
>>128656374
>>128658333
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>>128666378
What are their most autistic beats/instrumentals?
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>>128662099
You'd be amazed at what a good hip hop producer can create.
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Five years from now, at least half of all rap beats will be exclusively made with AI.
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Tipper
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>>128654324
I still have a hard time processing that the guy who made Graduation and MBDTF made a song praising Hitler and Nazism.
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>>128656250
Being cool and connected is also a talent
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>>128679721
You don't understand Gemini's.
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>>128655413
autists aren't as susceptible to cognitive biases so they can appreciate the greatness of hitler
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>>128659452
this fucking sucks balls. the song doesn't even have a lot of views on youtube even though earl sweatshirt is a big artist.
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Rap is music.
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OP have you never heard of "composers"?
rap is not music
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>>128683342
How are hip hop producers not composers?
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>>128683520
When is pushing buttons on a sampler “composing?”
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>>128679721
It’s clearly due to his autism.
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>>128683342
are you saying composers are the most autistic?
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>>128666378
What did it for me was reading an interview with his mother where she talked about how while editing the tracks on Donuts from the hospital he’d get angry at her if she listened to them before they were finished. That kind of possessiveness over one’s work and demand for privacy is a very common autistic trait. Surprised others haven’t made this connection.
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>>128679721
>>128655756
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>>128685164
Unironically, yes. Mozart had very obvious signs of autism.
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>>128666378
>>compulsive hoarder of vinyl records
>>needed his records meticulously organized
This is far more consistent with OCD than autism.
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>>128685078
How is a sampler different from any other instrument?
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>>128654324
>teen boys
I mean...
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>>128654289
I had some dude from Philly who was an aspiring rapper ask me to make beats for him. My scene is hardcore punk and grind but since he knew I was good with fruity loops he wanted me to make them for him. Unfortunately I never got around to it. This was twenty years ago.
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>>128654397
>medical racism

Not a real thing. In fact I'd argue the opposite that the reason for zero diagnosis is because their culture emphasizes good social skills that autistics don't have. Its much more tolerated in white culture to be an antisocial ocd addled fuckwad than in black culture.
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>>128690974
Blacks are much more community and family-oriented than whites, that's for certain. One reason why their birthrates haven't dropped much and why Black dudes never seem to be incels.



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