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>kills metal
Based
Based
Based
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>>130388187

i dont even like GnR but kurt is such an immense faggot
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>>130388187
All members of the Appetite and Illusion lineups are still alive. Meanwhile this faggot killed himself at 27 because he couldn't handle it or some BS like that. Or his wife killed him. Either way, pretty embarrassing.
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>>130388187
He killed all rock and himself. Axl is still alive. I think being racist, misogynistic, sexist, and homophobic could be interpreted as having self preservation instincts.
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>"We're killing corporate macho rock"
said the guy who inspired Nickelback, Creed and Seether.
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>>130388187
Nevermind is the greatest rock-aligned album of the 1990s and this has never been debunked.
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>>130388187
>kills Metal

Nah, he killed GLAM. That's the difference. Metal, as a whole, is still continuing. Glam is just a relic.
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>>130388409
Is Glam "Metal" even metal? "Welcome To The Jungle" just seems like updated hard rock.
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>>130388388
>"we're killing corporate rock"
>becomes one of the most shilled bands of their generation
kurt had zero self awareness
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>>130388423
Glam Metal is not considered Metal, even though it has it in its name. Same goes for Nu Metal.
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>>130388463
I would easily consider Slipknot and Infest metal.
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>>130388423
>>130388463
80s Dio and Ozzy have more in common musically with glam metal than thrash metal but most won't deny they are metal.
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>>130388463
Sure thing, metal archives. Nobody takes your elitist posturing seriously.
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>>130388187
Jesus christ what a faggot
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>>130388476
Nu metal is a pretty wide term. Sometimes I question its usefulness. Slipknot is more similar to Pantera than Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit.
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>>130388423
>>130388463
Some Glam is Metal. Others are not.

Glam that is Metal based: Stryper, Twisted Sister, (early) Mötley Crüe, W.A.S.P., Dokken, Skid Row, (early) Icon, Pink Cream 69, (mid) TNT, EZO, Kuni, Metalwolf, Robyn Danger, Lion, Nitro

Glam that is Rock based: Poison, (later) Mötley Crüe, Love/Hate, White Lion, Firehouse, Slaughter, L.A. Guns, Great White, Lillian Axe, Cinderella, Ratt, Rough Cutt, Tarrga, (later) Icon, (later) TNT, Kix, Enuff Z'Nuff, Warrant, XYZ, Lynch Mob, Pretty Boy Floyd, Wrathchild, Zodiac Mindwarp, SoHo Roses
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>>130388409
Nah he killed himself.
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>>130388187
jesus he really did have the natally feminised eyes
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>>130388281
he got hot shotted
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>>130388187
I'm so glad he killed himself bros
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>>130388187
Kurdt could never write November Rain
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>>130388747
Or most tracks in Use Your Illusion.
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>you can't be a fan of theirs and a fan of ours at the same time
all right, i'll pick gnr
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>>130388739
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>>130388409
Nirvana and the 90s killed metal. That's a fact. You didn't see heavy metal being a pop genre in the 00s or 10s. The 90s were their last breath, now kids, teens and young adults listen to a different kind of music.
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>>130390015
White Zombie, Fear Factory, Ministry, Metallica, Megadeth, Kyuss, Faith No More, Body Count, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains (they're both Metal despite being from the Seattle scene; deal with it) would all like to have a word with you.
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>>130388187
nirvana was more metal than gnr, 80s hair metal just ruined the public image
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>>130390099
Also all 4 90s Pantera albums were certified platinum in the US but he's kinda right. Glam metal was a shared cultural experience that was playing on the same radio stations as Michael Jackson. Metal hasn't had anything like that since. Maybe that's for the best though. Guns n Roses, Dokken and Motley Crue were alright but most glam metal was pretty shit.
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>>130390015
Any "metal" that succeeded in the pop sphere wasn't metal to begin with.
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>>130390149
Nirvana was the least metal band in the Seattle scene.
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>>130388577
How is Ratt not metal based, they are probably the glam band with the clearest Judas Priest influence
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>>130388187
It's almost like there's different music for everybody's tastes
Gatekeeping music is so cringe
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>>130388187
quit shilling these two-hit wonder faggots, nirvanafag.
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>>130388187
Imagine playing a concert, heading out and there are all these kids eager to get your autograph and they're wearing GNR tshirts
That must have stung
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>>130390336
Is that kid taller then Kurt?
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>>130388577
Nonsense. All glam is metal. By the late 80s some bands started to shed the heavy metal influence and replace it with a more rough, and less polished blues based sound (some call it "sleaze rock").
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>>130388187
Kurt was wrong about this.
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>>130388187
Appetite For Destruction shits on every nirvana album though???
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>>130388187
Kunt Cumbrain wishes he had even a fraction of the talent of Slash. Man I'm glad he offed himself instead of idk Axl or Slash. They are overrated cunts too but Kurt is so fucking pretentious holier than thou and condescending... What a faggot.
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>>130388187
This faggot killing himself was the only decent thing he did with his fucking pathetic life.

Guns n Roses is trash btw.
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>>130388187
>Cobain lambasting anyone for not having anything important to say
lol
Kurt literally just wrote songs either about whining about how sad he was, whining about his audience/the media or whining about nothing. He literally did not write meaningful music. Him and Axel Rose are no different, they are just different sides of the same coin
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>>130391651
bro but...
>my libido
>my mosquito
>a mulato
>a nigrato
>hey
>*shitty lazy zero music theory riff*
>yeah
>*more guitar nonsense*
>hey
Bro how can you not like Smells Like Teen Spirit
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>>130390187
you mean Pearl Jam
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>>130391651
>babies first introduction to the blues
You dislike the punk/blues fusion?
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>>130388187
Ya because selling nudes of an infant without parental consent, writing the rapists anthem, and drooling from near-overdose amounts of heroin in interviews your kid fans will see before ultimately killing yourself and saddling the love of your life mother of your child with endless accusations is so much better than making chill tunes to take the edge off on the weekend. Fuck him and if you agree you're a retard faggot.
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>>130394865
With parental consent, they could've just cropped it out too.
You should source your information before being a retard.
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>>130390643
Maybe I should've said that Axl was a primadonna and needed to get his shit together.
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>>130394879
You should source your information because you do sound like a retard.
>Elden's parents never signed a release authorizing the use of the photos taken of the 4-month-old baby in a Pasadena aquatic center in 1990 and Elden received no compensation, the suit alleged.
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>>130394847
>You dislike the punk/blues fusion?
Are you talking about Nirvana or GnR?
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>>130388187
what an embarrassing manchild
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>>130390099
Those were mostly niche.
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>>130388187
Metal can't fucking die.
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>>130390176
>Guns n Roses, Dokken and Motley Crue were alright but most glam metal was pretty shit.
Maybe someone can help me find more good hair metal / glam metal. I've gone through a number of the bands in pic rel but the real bangers are few and far between.

https://youtu.be/cJnR0dwCJ0E
https://youtu.be/HAJV2va9V9A
https://youtu.be/zk2RLGfNVMc
https://youtu.be/_v_Ae1gdHGQ
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>>130388187
imagine basing your whole identity around some faggot who offed himself the moment his 15 minutes of fame ended. kys nirvanafag.
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>>130388423
Guns N Roses seem more like party rock to me while being somewhat glam-adjacent. Not REAL glam like Cinderella.
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>>130388187
what was the important thing he had to say?
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>>130388542
Nu Metal just means "embarrassing wigger / trailer park metal-adjacent 'No-mommy-don't-do-it-again-Don't-do-it-again-I'll-be-a-good-boy-I'll-be-a-good-boy-I-promise-No-mommy-don't-hit-me-Why-did-you-have-to-hit-me-like-that-mommy-Don't-do-it-you're-hurting-me-Why-did-you-have-to-be-such-a-bitch-Why-don't-you-Why-don't-you-just-fuck-off-and-die-Why-can't-you-just-fuck-off-and-die-Why-can't-you-just-leave-here-and-die-Never-stick-your-hand-in-my-face-again-bitch-Fuck-you-I-don't-need-this-shit-You-stupid-sadistic-abusive-fucking-whore-Would-you-like-to-see-how-it-feels-mommy-Here-it-comes-get-ready-to-die' '''music'''"
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>>130394865
>writing the rapists anthem
https://youtu.be/bbK4gsNC7K8
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>>130399305
make yourself small
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>>130399217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc68TjfsfMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N7vdaOeuFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSQ9oRdlYvY
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>>130388187
This is a fake quote btw, he didn't like Axl but said Slash was a good songwriter and guitarist
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>>130390336
Kurt was gonna be bitter no matter what. He seemed like a prick and an incredibly unhappy person.
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>>130399508
Duff McKagan is literally from Seattle and originally a punk guy. Kurt knew him.
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>>130399605
Wasn't he one of the last people to see Kurt alive too? They were on a plane or some shit. It's been a while since I've read Heavier Than Heaven
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>>130399507
Pretty good.. first one was the best. I liked the solo on the second one.
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>>130388219
Fpbp
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>>130396270
>alleged
Isn't he that kike who is mad he has to work because he's not a billionaire from getting his picture taken?
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67th post in the thread LMFAO
SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN
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>>130399815
The game
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>>130400251
kill your fucking self right now
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>>130388463
>>130388476
>>130388542
limp bizkit has some definitely metal moments
>>130388499
Theres a pretty significant overlap between nu metal and "true" metal.
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>>130390212
>>130390384
>>130388577
>Some Glam is Metal. Others are not.
>Glam that is Metal based: Stryper, Twisted Sister, (early) Mötley Crüe, W.A.S.P., Dokken, Skid Row, (early) Icon, Pink Cream 69, (mid) TNT, EZO, Kuni, Metalwolf, Robyn Danger, Lion, Nitro
>Glam that is Rock based: Poison, (later) Mötley Crüe, Love/Hate, White Lion, Firehouse, Slaughter, L.A. Guns, Great White, Lillian Axe, Cinderella, Ratt, Rough Cutt, Tarrga, (later) Icon, (later) TNT, Kix, Enuff Z'Nuff, Warrant, XYZ, Lynch Mob, Pretty Boy Floyd, Wrathchild, Zodiac Mindwarp, SoHo Roses


What albums would you say early motley crue and skid row ends at?
anyways, It's not a binary. Some bands have a lot of overlap between those 2 groups

W.A.S.P had at least one song that centered around rock n roll riffs:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=eRfk8zn1iek
And a bunch that focus more on (power) chord progressions than riffs:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xUd1VOYpFNM
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xUd1VOYpFNM


Warrant had a bunch of outright metal songs on their first few albums:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IQKrTzhcmuA
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=U3IKzGUPQ_Q
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn3s0EsARSM
I can post more if needed.
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>>130388187
>kills metal

But GnR aren't metal
Kurt even calls them a rock band in the pic you posted
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>>130388187
Rape Me

Do it on French TV
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A "music genre" that does not taxonomise music strictly on its sonic qualities and describes a tertiary visual aesthetic is not a real music genre. "Glam" never existed. It was never a real thing.
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grunge had a pretty big overlap with metal on some bands
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Its based until you later find out Kurt was obsessed with being on magazine covers and lists and all of this was just an attempt to kneecap the competition and stand on their necks. Nirvana wanted to be one of the biggest bands in the world and they got it
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Sweet Child O Mine mogs anything this loser ever wrote. He should have seeked help and found God
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funny how Axl is pretty woke these days. Bet Kurt would have turned into a chud
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>>130396270
>the suit alleged
200$ and a "contract."
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>>130397742
Nirvana.
Not whiny lyrics, man.
It's the blues.
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>>130399686
Shouldn't believe everything you read.
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>>130396270
Little dude should be grateful he didn't get countersued.
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>>130400980
idk man you can HEAR the glam in a lot of those songs.
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>>130388219
fpbp
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GnR was already a reformation of the excesses of hard rock in the late 80s. Nirvana was like the Radical Reformation who condemned Martin Luther as a heretic for being too similar to Catholicism
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>>130400980
I don't like it but, if you compare the sound to other metal, the "glam" is clearly the more clarifying part of of the name
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>>130402500
by 88 you could see signs of the 90s coming. alternative acts were popping up on the Billboard and hair metal was exhausted and running on inertia.
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>>130388187
The funny thing is GnR loved Nirvana and wanted to tour with them and Metallica. But Kurdt was more interested in getting approval from the indie rock faggot crowd.
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>>130390186
your cookie monster metal is fucking shit
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>>130406673
Kurt loves Metallica but james made fun of his suicide when he died
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it's funny because the gnr guys went and formed velvet revolver, made only two records, killed grunge and mogged everything ever recorded by shitvana
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>>130388187
>Guns N' Roses are a bunch of sexists, racists, and homophobes.
Based
Based
Based
Also Appetite mogs Nevermind, stay mad femboi.
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>>130390212
Ratt's debut EP is fairly close to being Metal enough for Metal-Archives, but one EP does not a career make. The vast majority of their career was defined by their arena-friendly Hard Rock tracks, not their Judas Priest-esque debut.

>>130400692
Difference is, W.A.S.P.'s Glam albums were still more Metal than Rock. The same could not be said for the other Glam bands who were more Rock than Metal. W.A.S.P.'s debut has the following that are Metal, Glam influences removed: Animal, I Wanna Be Somebody, L.O.V.E. Machine, School Daze, Hellion, Sleeping (In the Fire), On Your Knees, Tormentor, The Torture Never Stops

YMMV: The Flame, B.A.D.

When accounting for it all, the Rock tracks are the exception, not the rule.

Warrant's Dog Eat Dog has Metal songs like the ones you linked to, but in total, they're still less Metal than W.A.S.P. Dog Eat Dog's Metal tracks: Inside Out, Machine Gun, Hole in My Heart, April 2031. The rest are Hard Rock-based Glam.

Other problem, Warrant came way too late to the game. The world remembers them for Cherry Pie. They don't remember them for Dog Eat Dog.



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