https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYGAxiXd-KIBACK FROM THE GYM! WEEKEND GRIND!https://chordify.net/en/chords/taashi-masuzaki-shadows-blokarts260Resources:>http://www.pianopractice.org/book.pdfPiano Basics>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUyDmNalB0rjP2anw_332rs8-oJMapOMU>LessonsOnTheWeb YT Basic Chords:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y01jIorpeA Triads>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbK2jtVRM8Seventh chords>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhbK9g8yyESeventh chords 2>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDRWDI-m3wExtended Chords>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OmqeihOXD4Altered chords>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsxM5LPrwcSus chordsFor composers:>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL341D841389B2FEC7Music theory:>https://www.basicmusictheory.com/One of the best sites for everything on chords, keys, scales, etc>https://www.youtube.com/user/RhaptapsodyMichael's new YT ChannelNotes:http://www.sightreadingpractice.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?sight&dpt=s&layout=full&r=w.s/&id=31026325146&cr=188-key weighted-keys pianos under 1,000http://www.kraftmusic.com/digital-pianos-and-keyboards/home-pianos/?bundle_product=No&key_num=88&limit=50&price=1%2C1000For workstastions:Generally, Korg, Roland, Yamaha, or KurzweilBudget pianos: Used Privias, M-Audio 88 Hammerkey, Foldable 88 key Glarry if super poorProd on keyboards:http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki/Vintage_KeyboardsChord Libraries:https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/piano/Ebmaj7/9https://www.pianochord.org/sound-library.htmlSynth Emulators (FREE):https://cdm.link/a-free-emulator-of-roland-jp8080-and-the-love-of-supersaws-and-trance/dsp56300.com/builds/downloads.html?version=2.1.0&product=JE8086&format=All&os=AllWeb Browser Keys (free):https://midi.city/Post resources, sheet music, synthesia, midi, vocaroos, etc.prev: >>130166167https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/subject/%20%2Fkeys%2F%20-%20Piano%2C%20Synth%20%26%20Keyboard%20General/
>haven't practiced in a month>forget how to play the songs I learneddo I really have to constantly reinforce my learning , I want to take breaks every so often but I end up forgetting how to play
>>130390565repetition until it becomes muscle memory forever anon, getting familiar with the sounds also helps, either in traditional sheet notation or letter chordfag notation. You must develop ear, so even if you forget a song you can figure it out almost instantly the next time you want to play it.
Does anyone know what the sample or synth sound used in this song came from:>>>/wsr/1564705I'm wondering if it might from a keyboard. the liner notes of the album werent a help
>>130390714Thats a violin type instrument sample and it must be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TpjcnFMJsor:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqYx1je-q4kor:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eRAM5wc-Cwit gets used a lot for desertic environmental music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KtiyhNE7GQ
>>130390883Thanks!
>>130390883It did sound like some kinda string/bowed instrument to me, but i wasn't sure which one.the sample in the song sounded a little smoother and less harsh than those. Though that may have been reverb or other sound effects playing a role.anyways, thanks for giving it a shot.
I looked up other people playing similar instruments and some people on youtube played it less buzzy.anyways, wiki pages for reference:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebabhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamancheh
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>>130390529https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NNp8VB2aLkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOU4EAa86fkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0yMn_yXrPYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpqHKQb7jp4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTXK7HiE3LEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbinzTMiHE
I actually wrote a FAQ for a classical piano version of a general like this a few years ago, but it has no links, only my advice. If anyone wants it, I can post it, but it's rather long-winded.
>>130395763post it
>>130396209Tomorrow
>>130397708Kek, no idea why you're impersonating me, but I guess it's mildly amusing.>>130396209Sure, but it's actually insanely long now that I try to postWelcome to the classical piano general! This is a general for discussion of everything piano: instruments, performances, practicing, technique, etc.FAQ:>I am 999 years old, am I to late to learn the piano?No. Through structured practice you will be able to progress, just set yourself realistic expectations; you aren't going to play La Campanella in a year.>How do I start?Find a teacher, it's the most efficient way. Don't be afraid to switch teachers if the current one isn't cutting it.Otherwise, you're stuck with method books and youtube tutorials.>No teacher, me stuck, what do?Pirate yourself a method book by either Faber&Faber or Alfred's Piano Adventures. Other books work, but I personally like these. After that, you should certainly record yourself and compare against the method book. Don't be afraid to ask here. However, unless you pay us by the hour, we aren't your teachers.Recording yourself and listening back is going to be your cornerstone, because you have to be your own teacher.>Acoustic or digital?It depends on your budget, but you definitely want 88 keys and fully weighted digitals as a minimum. Otherwise you're wasting your moneyFree pianos can be worth less than $0, so be careful with those.If you can afford a good acoustic and are certain that you'll keep playing, by all means go for it.
>>130398680>I have a 1000 years old piano that my Czech grandma bought that was played by Liszt's cousin's wife's sister's dog once, how much is it worth? (AKA is my piano worth anything?)Most pianos are worth less than what they were purchased for. Don't ever fall for a piano salesman's lies that a piano appreciates in value over time. It doesn't matter if it's Steinway, Fazioli, Bösendorfer, etc. If you have a piano, pay a technician to tell you how much it's worth.If you're a rich bored anon that wants a expensive piano both as a hobby and an investment, get one of those limited edition Steinways/Bösendorfers (not sure if Fazioli has them, probably yeah) that are made in collaboration with some artist, those could appreciate because they're essentially a painting + a piano. This isn't financial advice, I think those pianos are absolute trash and you're a fool for investing on a piano. A piano is nothing but a music making tool and anything else is corporate slop trying to market to rich idiots.Don't forget that to own a piano is to pay for its regular tuning and maintenance!>Do I need to read sheet music?Absolutely. Whether you're playing classical, jazz, pop, videogame, anime, whatever, pretty much your biggest resource is going to be sheet music. Synthesia is not a replacement. Alternative notation is not easier nor convenient, don't even ask.Lead sheets are also part of knowing how to read sheet music, not something different.>But I play by ear...That's great! Keep at it, you still need to learn how to read. And if you can't play by ear, you need to start doing so; it's a necessary skill for any working musician worth their salt, but a little more niche for amateurs. But it's a niche well worth mastering.
think i'm getting better with my e-sax to the point i can perform in front of people a bit, if i had a huge training space i probably would already buy an actual sax but i also like the variety of the sounds my e-sax has since it covers every single type of sax sound.
>>130398699>What about theory?Theory goes hand in hand with reading, the more you intuitively understand theory, the easier it gets to read. You don't need to be a PhD in music theory to be able to read or sight-read well. As with most things music, it's about practice.Remember: Theory is DESCRIPTIVE, NOT PRESCRIPTIVE.>How much should I practice?At the beginning, 15-30 minutes is plently, you can even get away with less, assuming you're fine with progressing a little slower. But the catch is that it must be daily. No point practicing 3.5 hours one day a week rather than 30 minutes every day. I wouldn't worry about exact numbers, rather make sure that you always make a tiny little bit of progress, since it will compound into a final, playable result.>Should I study technique?It depends, but mostly yes. Technique is not merely the ability wiggle your fingers fast, it's about being able to execute what you want out of the instrument (dynamics, articulation, tempo, etc.) how you want it. So knowing the style, what you want to do with the music (aka theory) is part of technique.>Technique methods for noobs:Hanon (if you only do the first 20 exercises you are fucking up, you're not supposed to be able to ONLY play the first 20 exercises fast)Czerny Op. 599>For intermediate pianists (think Liebestraum No. 3, the easier Bach WTC, the easier Chopin nocturnes, Mozart Sonatas):Dohnányi (This one will carry you all the way to virtuosity, highly recommended)Moszkowski Etudes Op. 79 Hanon (only if you play the entire book in ALL 24 keys, otherwise pick a different, better method)
>>130398713>For advanced pianists (For anything at or beyond, Bach toccatas, Chopin Ballades, Scherzos, the intermediate and difficult Beethoven sonatas and everything beyond):Dohnányi againBrahms' 51 exercisesChopin, Liszt, Rachmaninoff EtudesCortot Philipp's School of double notesWARNING: Always make sure that you're not overpracticing and that either you know what you're doing (you don't) or you are being watched by someone who does (e.g a teacher)YOU ARE RISKING INJURY OTHERWISE I've met a couple pianists who stopped being able to brush their teeth pain free due to tendonitis, if you don't want that, be careful with the study of mechanical exercises such as those above.>Can I become a concert pianist?Depends on your age and your wants/needs. If you're fine with earning a middling wage for your entire life despite being at the top 1% of your field (assuming you even make it there), then, sure go for it. If you can make it to the very top 0.1% you can make a good living, but besides that, it's better to find other ways to make a living out of playing the piano, or even going into another field and keeping piano as a hobby.>How do I find repertoire (of any era)?IMSLPMuseScoregoogle (use file:pdf)
>>130398726I couldn't think of any more questions to add, however, if anyone has any questions regarding sightreading or technique (whether you're classical or not) I'd be happy to help
>>130390529https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3uYKtkxp-M
Piano and Guitar together are top tierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpVT-ZJmGwVid to learn Jazzy Progressions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFS3uV08bcg
https://youtu.be/RLzI_CqOVNI?si=eNl8c6OVKY2IIt4q&t=101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1XBPLDECC0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCWLuZR9d3Q
>>130400916>Vid to learn Jazzy ProgressionsI've downloaded a book with jazz chords and progressions for that.
(._. )I hate that my pinky is half as long as my ring finger. I ngmi
>>130404421What's wrong with this passage? If your hand's too small just roll the chord. Of all the passages to complain about in that movement you certainly chose the most nothingburger of them all. Though I must admit that despite me having relatively small hands, my fingers are well proportioned, so I never struggled there.
>>130404504Everything else is physically playable; this is the one chord that I just physically can't do. I can reach the E# to G# no problem, but once I try to add the D# with my pointer finger, it drags my pinky up to the point where it clashes with the G key.It's not worth rolling here; I'm just going to leave out the D#. It just sucks because I want to be faithful to the score.
>>130404596Why do you say it's not worth rolling? I find it a weird position to take.
>>130404602https://vocaroo.com/1iiJLTDzSh57Hear the difference?That's why.
>>130404639The arpeggiated version is not inherently worse or better, specially at the end of such a fast run. I guess if you prefer the absolute full stop, I can respect it. Just two different ways of being autistic about score accuracy lol
>>130404664>Just two different ways of being autistic about score accuracy lolTrue. It kills me that I have to compromise.I thought Ravel was a manlet; why he be writing chords like that? He also had that Ab major 10th in Oiseaux Triste... at least I can use my ring finger there.
>>130404708He wrote them because he either had big hands or he simply wrote for people who had big hands. The reason why I don't mind arpeggiating is because I listened to Ashkenazy's Op. 32 No. 13 by Rachmaninoff and was convinced that it was the greatest rendition ever for that prelude. As an aside, I would absolutely purchase a narrower keys keyboard, even if it's just to feel like Rachmaninoff.
>>130405285>Op. 32 No. 13 by RachmaninoffMan, fuck those last three measures. What the fuck.My piano teacher must have sheltered me from pieces with large chords when I was taking lessons and/or I didn't think twice about breaking up/rolling chords like the Db major 10th in Chopin's 2nd sonata.Hell, I even remember getting a comment from a judge at one of my juries stating that I had wonderfully large hands (not true; I'm just really tall, so maybe she just assumed that was the case).It wasn't until I started to study more contemporary pieces while in college where I started to pay more attention to whether it would be acceptable or not to break/roll a chord.>I would absolutely purchase a narrower keys keyboard, even if it's just to feel like Rachmaninoff.Me too. I'm definitely going to get one of those 5.5" scale digital keyboards. I don't think I'll drop real money on a true keyboard retrofit for an acoustic grand, however.
>>130404421jeez thats tiny, can you cover all the octave if you want to though? >pic rel using the OP's image as referenceIf you can cover the octave ur gud, just get speedy, staccato exercises can make you speedy.just remember play gently its not about pressing hard, its soft and fast like the keys are "burning" with that kind of reaction speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguGjYGymu8This song showcases brief "staccatos" after the "broken" chords and how to implement them, they can also be spammed rhythmically in the background but thats something you need to do in production in your DAW. Once you figure those things out you can make patterns which can be used to make melody and therefore make music.Just experiment and find patters you like.
>>130405745>jeez thats tiny, can you cover all the octave if you want to though?Hmm? I may have hand type (2), but if we're talking white-to-white on the edge of the keys, I can reach an 11th, but that's not something I can drop in a piece unless I have a moment to set up and press against the keys...I think I'm speedy enough. I just don't like the rolled sound: >>130404639
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdm9IxPIBM
Is this actually effective for learning chords? I've been kind of addicted to it recentlyhttps://chordracer.com/practice
>>130390529Are 32nd notes at 164bpm physically possible to play?
>>130406402It depends on the notes... how is that a question?https://voca.ro/1eiaooGxXu4u
>>130406497I see what you mean, my bad. I'm only a noob but I started playing because of touhou music and since it's MIDI I always wonder if it's possible to play accurately. For example the solo at 0:45 has 32nd notes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28R07cxHXwI
>>130406783It's really going to depend on who wrote it and what their intent was. People who pick up DAWs and composing software can write things that are impossible to play because of how they (don't) fit the hand(s) unless the composer makes a conscious effort to write things that are playable.That clip sounds reasonable, especially since the 32nd note runs are rather limited and mixed in with some triplets and slower rhythms to give you some breathing room.
>>130407066Thanks for the good answer anon
Keyboards are so good bros picked up one 2 weeks ago and feels like you can pretty much compose everything with this instrument
>look on ebay and reverb for synths i want to buy>there are only 100v versions>if there is a 240v one it is double the priceshit sux.I used to have a step down converter for a TX802 rack i had and it was a pain in the ass.
anyone got the best youtube recommendation how to play piano while singing? i think it's trickier than you think. you don't need to be a virtuoso for that but it also runs the risk of being monotonous if you only play straight chords in 4/4 beat
https://voca.ro/1lIApLshfktx
