Are they right?
>>130392257>Nirvana - Nevermind>punkstopped reading
>>130392257They don't know Punk.
>>130392257Rolling Stone's lists are engagement bait. No reason to take anything they say seriously.
>>130392257>2 The Clash albums in the top 10Lmao fuck offAt least they got the top spot right
>>130392257I could rape the entire Rolling Stone staff if I wanted to
>MFW
Alright. Top 10 now. Solve it.
without even diving *too* deep, and allowing them a surface level survey of punk music, Discharge- "Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing" has inspired literally tens of thousands of bands, and is also still quite listenable after 45 years.10. fine, even though I hate it9. not punk8. not punk7. controversial, but defensible inclusion6. "post-punk" but whatevs, I guess it's okay5. not punk4. no way two Clash albums make top 10 for a genre with 50 years of history.3. meh2. not 2nd best of all time, but okay.1. fine. not the best by a long shot, but safe answer for number 1.no Gorilla Biscuits, no Minor Threat, no Dead Kennedys, no Rich Kids on LSD or Propaghandi, no Black Flag (?!) NO DISCHARGE no Subhumans "The Day the Country Died" ... at least it's not all NYC art garbage fucking Patti Smith and Sonic Youth like that usually wind up on these lists
>>130392257The clash aka the bruce springsteen of punk rock arent that good
>>130392257>Clash S/T over London CallingUltimate contrarian opinion.
>>130392257Bad list but #1 is correct
puts all this weaksauce "punk" shit on the list and forgets the king weaksauce "punk" album of all time, Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
>>130392257EVERY punk album is equally dogshit, they're DEAD WRONG
>>130392257>greatest>punkno such thing
>>130392703>fine. not the best by a long shot, but safe answer for number 1.Which one should be n1 in your opinion?
Sorry chuds, but Nevermind is Punk Rock secondary on Sonemic, Incorporated's Rate Your Music Dot Com.
>>130392880I seriously think that Discharge has the best punk album of all time- in terms of originality, every song being a classic, the album still sounds fire after all this time, and they're arguably the most influential punk band of all time. I know that you can go back and say "well they were influenced by such and such, and they were influenced by so and so" but I think Discharge has had more of a *direct* influence on punk music over time than any of those 70s bands.
>>130392993also, actual punk culture cares way more about Discharge than any of the shit on that list. no one at a show is wearing fucking sleater kinny back patches or has listened to the ramones since they were 16.
>>130392257If the Ramones is the best punk album, that means punk is a dogshit genre with no range.
>x-ray spexlmao literally who
>>130392257they're right but none of those are great albums
>>13039226310. Yes9. No (not punk)8. Not punk7. Yes6. Yes5. No4. Yes3. No2. No1. YesNot necessarily top 10 but those that are okay being there
I like Poison Idea
>>130394906oh and stiff little fingers and adolescents and cock sparrer
>>130394822zoomer piece of shit
>>130392257#7 and #1 good. The rest? Fucking gay.
>>130394906
>>130392257Wear is black flag and misfits?
>>130395564And Negative Approach and the Meatmen and Dayglo Abortions and so on and so forth
>>130392257Anything British doesn't count.
>>130392282critics love the clashthe ramones are power pop
>>130392257No Offspring or Blink 182?
>>130395503nasty faggot, fuck you what do you like, anything?
>>130395611I'm assuming the people who write these lists aren't 14 year old girls
>no zen arcade>no rites of spring>no germs
>>130395715>Noooooooo you have to love the fat cringe manchildren. Nooooooooo!
>>130392257Laziest list ever and Nirvana are not even punk.
>>130395800No. They are 74 year old commie jews and boomers.
>>130392257>10Not bad, and inspired better bands, but at bottom just pop music, same with #4>9Lol no>8Yes, great album, even if technically a precursor>7Great pop album, not one of the best punk albums>6This is more like it>5You're fucking kidding me>3Yep>2They're cool, they're not top two let alone top 10>1Shouldn't be number 1, but it's hard to argue the Ramones don't deserve a top ten spot, they deserve it more than the Pistols or Clash who were bigger as fashion trend-setters
>>130392703>9 and 8 not punk Lol lmao evenBut yeah for some reasons these publications ignore hardcore
>>130392257Should London Calling, Pink Flag, and Double Nickels even be considered punk? Those are more post-punk than straight up punk. Punk rock has its own sound and post-punk is its own thing, too.
>>130392257Ramones is so fucking overrated I swear to Allan. And the only punk album that matters is Sex pistols.
>>130392993You think an album from 2002 is the most influential punk album of all time?
>>130392263learn the rock music 101 then come back
>>130396944sex pistols are the definition of overrated
>>130392257>Sleater KinneyWtf Why is that even there? I've never heard this band discussed ever in my life except for one girl who introduced me to them. I love them but they may that is so absurd. Bikini Kill, sure they are at least notorious but Sleater Kinney is really irrelevant even among 90s femme bands
London Calling isn't punk. In any way shape or form.
why is punk so shit?
>>130392257I think Punk is so varied that you can make any variation you like to reflect your own idea of what punk is.If you wanted to make one of important all inspiring bands you could because punk is extremely influential, if you wanted to make a list about the most politically charged you could, or the most popular, or the most experimental, you can go a number of ways.But if you have no idea what punk is then your list will just reveal a worldview, and this clearly reveals that Rolling Stone, don't know what punk is nor even seem to like it much but just picked the most acceptable bands to a non-punk listening audience. I personally never take seriously any punk list that doesn't include NMTB at number 1 or 2.
>>130397414Cont. A real punk list should be10. (Leaving blank for whoever you like)9. Rites of Spring8. Minor Threat LP7. Crass - Feeding of the Five Thousand (Interchangeable with any one you prefer)6. Discharge – Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing5. Damaged - Black Flag4. Damned, Damned, Damned (interchangeable with Machine gun etiquette)3. Clash s/t2. Any of the first three Ramones albums (Though 'Its Alive' is the most punk)1. Never mind the Bollocks
Discharge is on more battle jackets than any band on that list. Shit, Torso is probably on more battle jackets than anyone on that list. If they're gonna include X-Ray Spex and Wire, might as well include Extreme Noise Terror or Nauseum or anyone else actually good that's actually relevant to punks and not the London/NYC art school student lounges where they'll turn this shit into a lunch playlist.
>>130392257>Famous Monsters isn't on thereThe Rolling Stone is gay.