>>130410685
Haven't seen the documentary yet, but they just did a show in Athens and absolutely nailed Infinite Dreams. It's insane how well they can ask still perform

>>130410745
it's a peculiar band, you won't find many bands like that. the only person that was fired was Blaze Bayley, for obvious reasons. When Smith wanted back, they took him, without firing Gers. They also don't give a fuck about rock'n'roll hall of fame, did a tour in Poland right after their martial law at the loss (including a free gig for a fan's wedding). They even repeated it the next tour. They had more than one legendary show. People remember Live After Death. But IMO, Rock in Rio outclasses it's all. The band never budged to anyone, they became an icon in spite of no mainstream radio airplay. They are loyal to fans, and so are fans. At the same time, they knew how to capitalize on their music, starting with Eddie, and ending with other merchandise. Sometimes, I think that god himself is a fan of Iron Maiden. Both Di'Anno and Burr are former members, and both are dead. None of the current members of IM are dead, so there seems to be some divine intervention

>>130410769
Yeah, they're easily my favorite band, even though I keep learning more about them every year. Most of my favorite bands are European power metal, but Maiden are pretty much the godfathers or at least precursors to that genre anyway. I've definitely seen a lot of the suns fun Live After Death and Rock in Rio, and I agree, Rio is better. I do like Death on the Road too though. When the party Journeyman, I honestly think that's one of their songs that sounds better live than on the record. It's crazy to me that I was born in 88, never heard of them until right after Brave New World came out, but they've already become my fave band. It's was really cool to listen to BNW and Dance of Death, thinking that was their 'normal' sound, since both albums have a lot of similarities, then started listening to their older albums and just having my mind blown one album after another. I even like the Blaze years, even if they are the objective worst albums. I wish they'd play Lord of the Flies or Sign of the Cross more, but I mean, picking 10-12 songs for a setlist out of over 160 probably isn't easy. I hope the so another album before they're done, can't ever have enough Maiden

>>130410895
Iron Maiden was never my favorite band, but I must admit honestly, that they have no competition. I might prefer Sepultura and Slayer, but what Maiden created is fascinating in itself.

Europe is the craddle of Metal, because Metal at its core is a continuation of Bethoveen, Bach, Chopin, Schubert, Czajkowski and so on.

I also like Death on the Road, nice to see that I'm not alone in that regard.

It seems like we are the same age anon ha ha. My first Iron Maiden CD was X Factor, because that's what my uncle dared to lend me. He didn't want me to listen to the classics, instead he risked with the "disposable" album, in case I wreck it. I fell in love with this album, and to this day, I have a soft spot for X Factor. Brave new world is also my favourite album, but not because it's the best, but because just like for you, it was an album for our generation. I remember going to home after school, launching MTV and seeing the video for Wicker Man. It meant for me a lot. With Dance of Death, "No More Lies" was the most important song ever, but Brave New World is where for me, was the generational exchange. It also concided with the fact that Bruce and Smith were back in the band, but that was total coincidence.

>>130410969
Honestly, I was never a huge fan of stuff that leans into the hardcore/thrashy stuff, but I certainly won't turn it off. I guess I'm more into the melodic/speed fantasy stuff. Not necessarily because of the fantasy lyrics, just the higher pitched lighter side of metal. Helloween and Gamma Ray are right below Maiden for me.

That's interesting were the same age ha, wasn't expecting that. I wish I heard about Maiden when I was in the 90s, it would have made the reunion even more awesome probably. I also love Brave New World, it feels like a continuation of Caught Somewhere in Time minus the synth sound. It also got me into dystopian novels lol, hell, I've probably read more books based on Maiden songs than I have otherwise.

It's also sick to see some X factor appreciation. It does get repetitive at times but I still like Look for the Truth, Fortunes of War, Man on the Edge and especially Judgement of Heaven. Blaze isn't as raw or punky as Dianno nor does he have the range of Bruce, but he hits those low, baritone notes that stick in my head for days. I think the Blaze albums have great choruses, maybe thats why theyre so memorable.

>>130411073
>hardcore/thrashy stuff
It's very understandable. It requires a certain setting, a piece of mind, if you will heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClUB7_8xjEw

For me, what made Iron Maiden annoying is that you had guys who were going to school each day with different t-shirt of maiden, not necessarily a cover of the album, but rather a custom cover. It was annoying. Even if I liked Iron Maiden, I considered myself superior, because I was listening to Mayhem, Marduk, Immortal, Burzum and so on, while they were faggots with whom I was fighting a lot using fists (I won, but it wasn't really a proud win, because they were these kind of rich kids, who could afford everything, so if I've beaten them up, their parents were suing my parents off).

X Factor is a great album and obviously, it would have been better, alas lirycally different, if Dickinson did it. It is what it is. Don't get me started on defending Virtual XI. IMO, up to Matter of Life and Death they have perfect discography, but only because I haven't listened to their other 3 albums as thoroughly as before. Currently I am going for Book of Souls, and I can already see, that it's an underrated album.

Maybe that's the problem, no matter who you are, when Iron Maiden comes up, you can't help, but gush like a teenage fangirl

I was looking for video of Chino Moreno of Deftones, where he drinks red wine and talks about how he met Chi Cheng. The only reason he talked with Chi, was because he was an Iron Maiden. Can't find the video, but you know what I mean

Instead, have a wheatus song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3y9llDXuM
It sucks, but it mentions Maiden

>>130411222
I can totally understand people avoiding Maiden because of a bunch of preppy fags showing off their merch to fit in. I'm sure it happened a lot since Maiden is a much softer metal sound. I still like older Metallica, Megadeth, even early Helloween has a thrash element to it. I guess I'm mostly just not a fan of screamo/death metal, like when it's turned up to 100.

Yeah Book of Souls and Senjutsu have a different feel than their earlier albums for sure. BoS feels like Number but more proggy and Senjutsu feel pretty unique. I love the The Final Frontier, but some people think it's too proggy and washed out, but if you liked AMoLaD, you should enjoy it. It's similar to BNW and DoD to me, but brighter and longer. When the Wild Blows has one of my favorite riffs.

That's so funny you linked Wheatus, I knew exactly what you were getting at lol. 'I've got two tickets to Iron Maiden baby...' haha

When I was maybe a sophomore in high school (9 years ago), after 2 years of being into Maiden and music in general, I decided that the first 2 albums are all you really need. Killers especially is perfect, probably the best metal album ever recorded. After that, they had a lot of good singles, but the long players were never so consistent. NOTB is horribly overrated, and everyone who talks up Seventh Son is retarded. People like to glaze Steve Harris for writing long, epic songs, but I think a lot of that praise comes from people who don't listen to the influences he got steadily worse at borrowing from. The first 2 albums were full of songs with wildly different sections that were still very concise, which is what the best proggers did even when the songs stretched long (his beloved Genesis were the best at this). His later "epics" are just really, really long with much less variety. I also think their engine fell out with Clive Burr, Nico is technically fine but he just does not make the band as exciting as Clive did.

>>130411354
>preppy fags showing off their merch to fit in
and smelly. I can make fun of 4chan users (despite being one) and incels, but they were thousand times worse.

With Megadeth, I only recently finally found time to listen to them thoroughly. I am ashamed to admit that I listend more to Anthrax more, but I did it, because I fucking despise them and was wondering if I was wrong. Turns out, Megadeth is a great band and Anthrax shouldn't have fired Lilker.

IMO, about the later Iron Maiden albums, what actually happened is that they left EMI who were meddling with them and their music, and were finally free to do whatever the fuck they wanted, as superstars they are. And because Harris loves Rime of the Submariner, and because fans claimed (crucial word "claimed") to like Seventh Son and being disappointed with No Prayer For the Dying and Fear of the Dark, my educated guess is that Harris decided to go full on Prog Metal. IMO, I'm afraid that I've reached a point when I'm starting to think that Maiden cannot do no wrong. But at the same time, they aren't releasing an album every 2 years, they are very meticulous about their releases, who knows if they ever release anything ever again. So maybe, instead of whining, I should give it a try, especially that I am so eager to defend albums bashed by the fandom. Like I said, I really need to spend some time with these albums.

>'I've got two tickets to Iron Maiden baby...' haha
Yeah, it's kinda cool that fans will find each other no matter what. I recently was talking with a local reporter (a babe), about some local news. And while we had some casual talk she slipped that she liked Iron Maiden, it kinda explained why we gelled so well during the short interview - in other words, you cannot hide, it will come up at some point.

I won't be surprised if this thread will make people opened up about their experiences, it just seems to happen naturally

>>130411425
>I decided that the first 2 albums are all you really need.
I used to think that way too. But it was all because I wanted to be... edgy. I love Di'Anno, but I'm glad it turned out the way it did.

And yeah, I'm not a fan of NOTB, it's just that admitting such thing is like farting loudly during a meeting with freemasonry. It's going to kill you man. It is a very important album. New version of "Invaders", Accacia Avenue + Run to the Hills, Maiden's equivalent to Smells like teen spirit + NOTB + Hallow be thy Name. But yes, the songs are so overdone, that I'd rather to listen to something else. Killers, I have mixed feelings, it's a peculiar album. It has gread songs (and great production, contrary to what Harris says), but it requires a certain mood to get into it. But that's just my 2 cents

>>130411425
also, what makes Nico McBrain slightly better, is his charisma and his attitude towards fans. Speaking from the drumming point, I'm afraid I don't see much difference. But sometimes, what the bands need is someone who is very enthusiastic about his job. And Nico is very very enthusiastic and pro-fanbase. I myself managed to high five him after show. Burr is unfortunately dead, which is why I feel like it was some kind of divine intervention. With that said, Maiden is melody driven, rather than rhythm-driven. Rhythm and the beat is important, but for maiden, it was always the melody that made them great. Idk, just saying my few words

>>130411503
>>130411532
I decided a little before that time that I would never be afraid to shit talk sacred cows. Of the people that knew me, was infamous for shitting all over bands like Led Zeppelin, bands I thought were only praised because you were told to like them. I really hate a lot of the NOTB songs, funnily enough I think the songs generally accepted as weak are some of the more interesting ones. Invaders and Gangland at least have parts that perk my ears, and they have Clive driving the band. I can appreciate that Nicko was nice to fans, but if I was a guy who lucked into one of the biggest bands in history in my 30s I'd probably try to pay off my karmic debt too. Just compare live performances before and after the lineup change. Clive was the guy who pushed the band to play fast, the dude was seriously quick and even studio tracks had this infectious bounce. Nicko always sticks to the album speed, if not slightly slower, and he wasn't as creative. He's reused one drumbeat for so many Maiden songs, once you've noticed it you can't unhear it. It's the one in 2 Minutes, Wicker Man and many others. What's more, he started playing it on older songs and ruining the feel. I saw a clip of them playing Prowler a few years ago and it was pretty upsetting

is this thread just one person talking to themselves?

>>130411882
no, but that's how Iron Maiden works

>>130411801
>Just compare live performances before and after the lineup change
This is something I probably would have to start to do, to be honest. I'm not saying you are wrong, quite often such opinions tend to be correct. But also keep in mind, that Maiden might have not written the songs they did, if Burr was in the band. IMO, Piece of Mind-No Prayer is exceptional era. But I will watch the early performances, like you suggested. Therre is some truth that Nico is inoffensive. He does what he is supposed to do, and he never pushed his limit.

>>130411801
oh and yeah, about reused drumbeats, Flight of Icarus, Aces High, and so on... there are many many examples. When people compare the songs to each other they are not doing so, because of the melody, but because of the rhythm. I still love Nico, and I think that without him the band would have probably died after Somewhere in time, but that's only my theory

>>130411935
another thing that not many people say is that Maidens recorded their albums kinda quickly. They had a very busy schedule, and yet, they managed to create one monster of an album after another with different themes, ideas, experiments and so on. This is something that probably makes me respect IM the most. the fact that they recorded many of their albums in 3 weeks, because they had to go to the tour

does the documentry get into how every song fits into the same 4 archtypes and gets tedious after their 4th album?

>>130411995
no, the opposite, there are fans discussing the irona maiden (including Hirax singer Katon) explaining the impact. The band themselves discuss the touring problems

>>130412033
the reason I liked, is because good footage and good mood. I admit the doc is more of a monument for the band, rather than a doc when you have hardships and the band overcoming it. In a way previous docs did it better.

I was really surprised to learn that they did a tour, under loss in Poland, when it was under the full communist control and russia ready to launch the nukes. That requires balls.

>>130411935
>>130411935
>>130411946
This is me going off hazy memory, but I think Nicko did a little better on Piece than later albums. He didn't have the option to be as lazy as he would become. I think there's something to be said for honing in on a sound vs. lazily repeating yourself, and I think Maiden became guilty of sonic flanderization as the years went on.
Their touring schedule was pretty balls to the walls, them and The Police were pretty good about making good on the words "world tour." However, that's kind of the nature of the music biz. The record company makes you run around to places you might not even sell any tickets, then stuffs you in a studio for maybe a few weeks, then kicks you out on the road for another several months, all while keeping you as poor and indebted as possible. Bands like Maiden are the exception, one of the few acts that managed to beat the house.

>>130412033
>>130412044
both of these posts have the same posting style. why are you replying to yourself?

>>130412096
This would be a much simpler matter if the hiromoot didn't remove the ip counter. Anyway, there's probably been at least 4-5 people in this thread. I'm just taking an opportunity to discuss a band I don't listen to much anymore, in a rare thread that actually discusses music in an honest way with no shitposting.

>>130412096
he is replying to both of my posts, he is not a samefag

>>130411425
I can understand that angle. I'm not the op, I'm the other guy to clarify. Phantom of the Opera is such a great song, Killers, Murders in the Rue Morgue etc. are all great. I honestly think Maiden is more 'melodic metal' than truly metal. I could even say it's more pop sounding, but that makes them sound gay. Judas Priest, Black Sabbath are what I'd consider true metal, everything else is more of an offshoot, even Killers has a thrash/punk/ speed feel.

I've heard that comparison of Burr and Nico before, what exactly makes you say that? I've played guitar since I was 16, just as a hobby and not much recently, but never really understood drums as well.

>>130411443
I never really got into Anthrax much either, but I naturally went from Metallica to a little bit of Megadeth, but then I found Maiden and Euro power metal and just never went back. I honestly don't know a lot if Megadeth songs off the top of my head, but Tornado of Souls has to be one of the best metal songs I've heard. Angry Again is pretty cool. I haven't listened to any of either bands newer albums though.

In terms of every liking some part of Maiden, I think it's because they remain approachable. People can go from AC/DC, to Pantera, to Sabbath, to Maiden and they're not wildly different, like Sepultura, or Children of Bofom or Cradle of Filth. It's like the 'hardcore' band for people who still listen to Taylor swift or shit like that. Even going from pop/punk rock people can enjoy them.

I like them because they really try to change their sound, but somehow, it always sounds like Maiden.

>>130412174
also give me a time, I am doing some work right now, I will reply in a minute. It has nothing to do with illegal drugs.

>>130411882
No, I originally responded to OP and we went back and forth for a few posts, then someone else jumped in.

>>130412181
>I'm the other guy to clarify
That goes without saying
*ba-dam tsssshhh*
ein die sterben, die vase, die vase komm

anyway.
>Phantom of the Opera
it inspired Kill "Em All. I realize how cheesy is to say "I love Iron Maiden". But maybe we should do that. I also love "Linkin Park", so sue me. I'm about to break.

I will not discuss burr / nico difference, I'm too pleb to smell the difference.

Megadeth certainly deserves more respect than it does, but you can blame it on Mustaine acting like a sissy. But music-wise, Megadeth was really one of the best. What fascinates me about IM being a top band is the fact that they are british. They don't get airplay, they don't get respect, they become iconic anyway. How the hell did it happen?

Not to double post like a fag but what are you anons' favorite songs? I change a lot but Prisoner, Infinite Dreams, Face in the Sand, the Nomad and Duellists are some of mine

>>130412235
It's phantom of the opera ever since I learned to play it on guitar

>>130412235
Certainly Revelations, Wasted Years, Stranger in a Strange Land, Futureal, Sign of the Cross, Man on the Edge.

One thing that makes me think is about the situation that happened in Argentina. Like someone said, Iron Maiden is a british band. They wave the british flag, right?

There was this gig in Argentina, and Argentina and Britain has this dispute about Falklands. And there is a gig in Argentina, and Iron Maiden waves their british flag. And there is a riot. Somehow, Argentinian fans got angry about that. I mean, how in the flying fuck is that possible - do Argentinians know that Maidens are british? What did they expect from a band that uses Churchill quotes as intros?

There was some drama with that, but it didn't end in anything nasty.

>>130412238
I know right? That riff at the beginning then the quick run up the neck, so fucking fun. I haven played in years and I can still remember the tabs.

>>130412220
Nothing wrong with some nu metal. I used to listen to Blink 182, can't really get any gayer than that. Shit I used to listen to N'Sync a lot because my sister always got to choose what was on the radio on car trips or else she'd have a bitchfit. Then I got my walkman. Good times

>>130412270
Lol, that'd be like Americans rioting because fought the British for our country. Alcohol does crazy things. Hell, Bruce actually sang the star spangled banner a while ago at a baseball game I think. People are crazy....but these colours don't run hahs

>>130412277
>Blink 182
Yeah, I loved them too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGri7i8Y2Y

But before someone calls us faggots, American culture used to be attractive, instead of faggy. When people saw something out of US, they wanted it, instead of rejecting it. I doubt it will make anyone think, but I hope that someone will get it.

What I miss is that people were overall nicer to each other. I was from a punk subculture, but I got along with metalheads, and hip-hoppers. It was very different. I'm talking about the 90s, when I was a kid. Everything became stale and no-fun afterwards

>>130412303
It wasn't a laughing matter, though. There was this website metaleros.de. But of course, it is inactive currently. Just when I wanted to provide a source. Of course. This website discussed the south america and metalheads to cut it short.

IMO, South America might be the future of Heavy Metal. I used to listen to a lot of Brazilian bands. Nowadays I listen to a lot of Chilean bands.

What I told you actually happened. But it was like 20 years ago, like early 00's - 2003 or sth like that

>>130412305
Man I was listening to Maiden cause this thread, went and got some vodka, now you're making me go down the nostalgia rabbit hole lmao. Blink, Sum, Green Day, Offspring, Goldfinger, Weezer... so much punk/pop rock back then. Even stuff like Blues Traveler, Barenaked Ladies, Hootie and the Blowfish....I've gone through so many different eras

>>130412329
I don't know a lot of Brazilian bands, but Angra is probably in my top ten, and I still haven't heard all their music. Holy Land is such a fucking sick album

>>130412366
Brazil is basically a know-how:
Sepultura, Sarcófago, Chakal, Witchhammer, Mutilator, Holocausto, Ratos De Porao (YES, don't argue), Dorsal Atlantica, Vulcano, Headhunter DC, The Mist, Siecrist, Lustful, and so on. You will probably enjoy Vodu, Overdose, Taurus, Salario Minimo, and so on. You can check metal-archives. Brazil has a lot to be proud of.

Offspring - I have all of their albums. Now, consider the following. I bought their first album, and literally next week, I had an option to buy their first album, but with "Kill the president" song. I was very angry that day, didn't buy it. I have the censored version of their debut.

Chile is the future, I'm afraid. They had shitty bands, but they got better

>>130412418
I just checked out Say My Name from Vodu. Solid track. Reminds me of the mellower stuff from Stratovarius. Definitely has a some power metal vibes.

>>130412484
Yes, I shoud probably recommend some stuff like Viper. Listen to Overdose, they directly copied Iron Maiden on their album Conscience. It's a very good album, because brazilians play it rough.

There is so much great music, we are only scratching the surface.

>>130410769
Derek Riggs was more responsible for Maiden's success than any of the band members

>>130412672
He certainly contributed to that. Whenever there is a success everyone want to be a part of it. Metallica is a succes, but they cannot brag about doing a tour in a commie country. Maiden can. Metallica probably has more money than Maiden, but Maiden has integrity and doesn't have to apologize about anything

>>130410685
“I used to listen to them a lot when I was getting into metal, and I still have a lot of respect for them, even if I don’t listen to them anywhere near as much as I used to.

>>130412702
>Whenever there is a success everyone want to be a part of it.
Are you Maiden's PR team or something, trying to flip the story and make Derek look like the ungrateful one? The band never acknowledged how big of a contribution his creation of Eddie was to their success. Eddie is probably the most famous mascot of any band and their merch with his art is some of the most recognizable merch of any band on the planet. Yet have you ever heard the band acknowledge that and thank Derek for it? Never. They booted the guy after No Prayer For The Dying and simply forgot about him.

>>130412796
>Are you Maiden's PR team or something, trying to flip the story and make Derek look like the ungrateful one
not really. I just don't find interest in talking about things that don't interest me t.b.h. (before the worldfilters). I'm afraid I am too drunk to read anything else. I just bought a book for my mother, because she has a birthday. Can you please rephrase your questions in a way I can read them. Try to make it simple

>>130412181
I think if you really want a better insight on Maiden, it would do you good to listen to the stuff Steve Harris listened to as a kid. It's not so much the melodic or harmonic content as it is the architecture of the songs, how the pieces fit together. Once I did that, it was so clear what he was shooting for on his early stuff, he did really well incorporating that influence into much tighter metal songs. After Killers, he stopped writing such dense songs. Strange thing, since he ostensibly became more focused on Maiden being a prog band than a metal band.
As for the drum thing, just check out live videos of Maiden before and after 1982. It's really obvious that Nicko makes the band sound less urgent, and it's not just a tempo thing. Drums are the same as any other instrument, no one hits the skins the same way.
I think Anthrax catches a fair amount of undeserved flack. They're not a super consistent band, but their good material is some of the only thrash I'll listen to nowadays

old fag here. Saw Maiden in '84 (85?). It was Priest, Maiden and Fastway....second row. sick show.

>>130413805
how do you feel about them NOW. say something negative, so it's not all good and shilling. Idk, Iron Maiden, SUCKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6u1Ox8BcY
yes, I"m going to post that. Say what you want, but nobody did it after Maidens. Imagine Sepultura playing soccer / football with natives. No chance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QonEs-Teci4
My favorite song of Iron Maiden

>>130413180
When you say dense, what do you mean? What I'm understanding, is less breaks, less 'rest' riffs, less of the slower tempo moments. If that's true, I agree. The first two albums are far more complete in that sense, which is usual for bands first few albums. They go all out. Even with Number, they definitely have more 'pauses' or breaks from just continuous composition, but what they replace that with is those slow moments that allow for some reflection within the song.

I can undestand where you're coming from with the 'less urgent' comment now. It's like Nicko lags behind the beat, because the guitars and Steve became the drivers. When Clive was there he wasn't a follower, which might be one of the reasons they moved along without him. That's a very poignant angle.
As far as Anthrax, I didn't mean to give them flack, just more that I've never really listened to then enough to give any real opinion other than that they are part of the 'big 4'

>>130413946
You don't have to like them, but it's pretty ridiculous to say they such outright

>>130413980
No kidding? No prayer for the dying is a decent song, but I've never seen anyone say it's their favorite. Still, if you like it, cool, kudos to you man

>>130413946
I dont think about them too much now. Happy they are still out there givin' it a go. I just remember the good old days when I used to ski to Where eagles dare. used to rip sick lines to that tune..

>>130414234
Currently I am listening to David Bowie and Queen. Give me some time, before I respond

>>130414704
Take your time. /mu/ is slow, I'm sure this thread will still be up tomorrow