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Sexual predator edition

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #7. Too lazy to write up a description for this, but it has a little of everything
https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q
>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is not an accompanying chart, not available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
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He wasn't a good conductor anyways.
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who's next?
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>recording starts with 4 minutes of applause
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Deserts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlCnMKa2bU
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>>76685723
>last classical thread autosaged before 200 posts

music for the feel?
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>>76685723
Is this truly only 'classical', or are there some romantic artists in any of these collections? If not, do any of you have any links to some collections of romantic artists you enjoy?
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>>76688149
Most the links are varied. "classical" is used here as a general term because "Western art music"is longer and makes people mad.
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>>76688212
With that in mind, do you have any artists to suggest? Basics and favorites, both are of interest to me.
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>>76688119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApS5yYGovI4
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>>76688228
Petzold
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>>76688277
Anything else? Petzold hasn't made much of interest beyond Minuet in G, and I don't even like that.
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>>76688228
Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Haydn, Bach, Wagner, Mahler, Debussy, Liszt, Stravinsky, Brahms, Strauss, Shostakovich, Verdi, Puccini, Rossini, Britten, Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Schoenberg, Sibelius, Webern, Telemann, Monteverdi, Adams, Reich
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>>76688382
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>>76688407
what
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXy50exHjes
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>>76688499
he called you a plebmaster.
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>>76688835
cool
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>>76688218
Start with the monks or with Mozart.
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from last thread
if i play violin flawlessly with notes without pp, can i learn to play trombone?
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>>76688263
I don't see how this music conveys anything. Its totally abstract
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Hey everybody.

Here i am performing Beethoven's moonlight sonata mov 3 !

enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLB0THnTxSw
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>>76689632
you're not wrong. this is stuff you could program a computer to write for you. as the matter of fact, sometimes pieces like this are written according to an algorithm.

It's barely even deserving of the title "music". just because it's art and it uses musical instruments doesn't mean it's music.
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>>76689632
it's an abstract sort of feel
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>>76690683
actually I liked it and I think you're a pleb, its just that I don't see how it suggests the death of /classical/ or disappointment. Not like this for instance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BaOuXny66Q
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>>76690709

art like this concerns itself too much with feelings and emotions. it tries so hard to evoke a specific range family of emotions that it forgets that it's supposed to be enjoyable to listen to.

I'll put it like this. If you replace every instrument with just a square tone and it is still enjoyable, it's good music. it's the notes that matter, not the texture. Sure, you can spice it up and use symbolism and texture, but there's gotta be a balance, man. music is supposed to come in uninvited and just rape the musical part of your brain. It's not you who has to listen to it, it's supposed to MAKE you listen to it.

Music that requires a specific mindset, knowledge, context, or way of thought to be enjoyable is like a needy house guest that requires every comfort before they decide to strike up a conversation. good music needs to be like a guy who you like talking to no matter where you are or how you're feeling.
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>>76690770
Hauer's very mission statement was to expunge emotion from music.
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>>76690973
and that's a good thing?
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If anyone is interested in this. I just found this new website on producthunt to discover classical music and create lists. This was a great find
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/classical-music-only
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Brahms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5FUwUQMXg0
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Is it worth it to listen to the whole Swan Lake?

Not that interested in watching it...
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>>76691694
>gulda and brahms
does it get any more patrish?
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They always say how much Russians influenced French impressionism but was there anything that happened slightly after Russian Romanticism but before the modernism of Stravinsky and Prokofiev. I know Scriabin will be mentioned here but he died young and besides he was a loathsome man.

tl;dr Russian Impressionism that's not Scriabin? Preferably symphonic.
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>>76690770
I disagree. Orchestration matter matters just as much as pitch and rhythm. Orchestration is an extension of that. Timbres and textures do affect the conveyance of emotions as well as listen-ability.
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>>76692144
I think they mostly skipped impressionism in music and jumped straight to avant garde until that was squashed by the state. Reinhold Glière is the only really famous semi-impressionist or maybe Khachaturian but they are just as likely to be called late, late romanticists

>>76691757
Yes better to hear the famous parts in context.
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whatchya think of my sonata exposition /classical/?

https://clyp.it/t0fgs3ej
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>>76692144
>he was a loathsome man
What did he mean by this?

Full disclaimer: I'm almost exclusively into piano music so this might not be of much use if you're primarily looking for other stuff.

I think Catoire is the first name that jumps out when I think of a Russian Impressionist, the specific example being Hamelin's recording of his piano music. It's kind of samey sounding to be frank, and I feel like his lack of fame can be attributed to him never really developing his 'voice' beyond a certain point, but it's still full of cool ideas and somewhat interesting in that it's not at all what you'd expect from a Russian trained composer, not even one with French heritage.

It really does depend on how you define Impressionism, though. I agree that it's a very unique soundscape when speaking of its best known examples, but I still feel like just calling it late Romantic music wouldn't be too much of a stretch in most cases. Medtner, Tcherepnin, Roslavets, Feinberg, Lourie, some early Ornstein, etc. are probably the closest thing to a bridge between traditional Russian Romanticism and Modernism. They're not much like the typical Liszt/Wagner/Brahms that we associate with Romantic music, but not quite Debussy/Ravel either.
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Schumann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhN5mX8c2XM
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>>76689286
of course you can, the vast majority of trombonists play without perfect pitch
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has classical finally gone too far?
https://youtu.be/lLN38OYkEMU?t=8m30s
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>>76690660
Mother of god
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>>76690660
yet it's bright outside
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>>76692517
It's okay.
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>>76685723
Was he /our guy/?
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Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4sPvEi2n6g
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>>76686267
this desu
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Bruch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT09bd__IH8
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>>76688382
>listing Schönberg and Webern but not Berg
why
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Finland turns 100 years tomorrow, post Sibelius.
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>>76695821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mBJlH0jfz8
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Saint-Saëns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCvJZtzkqQ
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>>76695821
How about Rautavaara?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5p8jTFT7U
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Egon Wellesz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y27nqIyjl-E
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>>76695798
Berg is half the composer Schönberg is.
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>>76696386
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>>76696458
No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-4hIAYwW4k
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>>76696269
holy fuck, that's beautiful, thanks anon.
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>>76690660
amazing ! i find those type of pianos really horrible to play on, the keys are too heavy and i dislike the sound compared to a nice grand piano.
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>>76692144
Mussorgsky, they were influenced by Mussorgsky - Ravel, Debussy, Satie and more moderate composers.
Mussorgsky saved Debussy's career when he was extremely depressed, stuck in a dead end of late German Wagnerism. He would play his pieces for months and months, and try to emulate certain elements of his style. That's how he came up with some of his earlier famous pieces.
Later, Satie urged fellow artists to get rid of mussorgskyisms in French music as out-of-fashion.
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>>76696545
That is girl is pretty cute though.
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does anyone else here sing in a choir?
if so now advent has just been is there any Christmas anthems you're looking forward to singing?
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>>76696269
Press "F" to pay respects
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>>76692517
>https://clyp.it/t0fgs3ej

Safe the composition. I don't know why you care to share it because obviously it sounds reasonable but there's nothing interesting about it.
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>>76693483
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPybrOxRoT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eolCzLPsQ

Why does nobody ever post Strauss?
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>>76696458
Imagine if you ever had an opinion this wrong
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>>76697109
because its fluff
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>>76697200
nothing wrong with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOwumN3utE
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>>76697220
I suppose not but it is however the reason he is seldom discussed in these threads.
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>>76697290
that's a shame
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>>76696836
F
He died a while ago though great composer.
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>>76697109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKbIL4nhUqA
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UjjwzJBFE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLMaEh95B8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZ2Kxb5aT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gur0eJZW0Kw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXF8fpWe7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUuyqIDXcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geFJ4hYTt5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzCDq-RQFIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWBKSWzPYkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDP-K1dQ-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcDPZoHD1aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veZ7w0yBNu4
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Anyone here watched Schubert's operas: Alfonso und Estrella or Fierabras, and how did you like them?
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>>76698033
only last year. I was going to make a commemoration thread but I was banned for pointing out that it wasn't a volleyball on /tv/.
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>>76690660
Has that piano ever been tuned?
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>>76695821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOSaT6U4e-8
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violin=flute=trumpet
viola=oboe=horn
cello=clarinet=trombone
bass=bassoon=tuba
prove me wrong
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>>76700096
no Patrick a violin is not a flute
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Shostakovich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPC9CNsafU
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>boys: mahler
>men: bruckner
discuss
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>>76700679
No, bruckner liked little girls
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>>76700096
A cello's range is more similar to a bass clarinet than a clarinet
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>>76700096
consider the fact that the clarinet's name comes from the words 'little trumpet'
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO_JBadgcdE
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>>76700096
>prove me wrong
Ok. Viola = shit but oboe != shit, which contradicts the transitivity of =.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHG_b4iE0j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxzdN-Uf9x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0gA_yTLCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjgndGuy77o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBJwxUK402k
They're not even in the same range you fucking idiot lmao.
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>>76701337
>Viola = shit
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>>76702299
Yes thanks for posting a picture of violists to further illustrate my point.
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the comparison fails not because violas are shit, but because you never hear them while the oboe is one of the most ear-piercing instruments of all fucking time. The equivalent to the viola would be some middle-voice instrument that no one hears except when a composer takes pity and gives them a melody
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I'm in my mid twenties. Is it too late to learn composition? I don't know how to play a single instrument. All I have in my favor really is some knowledge of theory and a taste for tonally ambitious music.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs88dVCec4
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>>76685723
I'm not surprised, on the quiet classical music has always been a bit pervy.

If you aren't a QT (or can't be blatantly photoshopped into one) you are never going to make it as a young female instrumental soloist. I have no idea how they still get away with it actually, its like the last refuge of soft-focus photography.
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>>76702975
Sol Gabetta is top tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7ocL66-Ss
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Essential music for when Trump fucks up mid-east relations by putting the embassy in Jerusalem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FTafFgwoCg
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>>76702927
why the fuck would you just arbitrarily decide "oh I want to compose music now"
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>>76702998
Oh I agree, I mean not normally a male feminist or anything but I'm on their side really. The album covers are frequently ridiculous for retouching (last hold out of it really, they aren't so blatant in pop) and that end of the market doesn't really hide its glee (by which I mean throbbing erection) at like some virginal 16-year old prodigy from Poland in a ball gown. Its just creepy and outdated, classical music marketing is not really any higher minded than pop music and it feels shadier somehow. I dare say there are a lot of old goats helping some doe-eyed ingenue with her fingering.

If you look at Anne Sophie Mutter albums you can basically see the point someone decided MILFs were a thing. Eek.
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>>76703152
>Hi anon welcome to my masterclass
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>>76702998
what? The end product of Gabetta's playing might sound fine but as a cellist I fucking cringe watching the finger joints in her left hand every time she plays
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>>76703029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IpqzqB3YnM
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>>76703200
Don't make fun of her Marfans
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>>76703102
Because I wanted to for a long time but figured I didn't have any musical background. But I need something right now because I'm about ready to eat a bullet.
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>>76703347
there's no mention of that anywhere so I'm just gonna keep assuming it's a technical mistake
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Brahms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXd0omiCuA4
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>>76703415
if you want to learn composition, learning piano is a good tool to help with harmonic analysis and writing
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If Chopin was a tits man and Scriabin was a pussy man, then who was the ass man of the 19th century pianist-composers?
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>>76703415
>>76702927
It's never too late to learn composition.
>>76703472
Wagner
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>>76703415
well pirate some software and make something. Maybe it will sound decent, who knows.
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>>76703415
Buy a piano
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>>76703472
Never mind. I didn't see pianist. Grieg was probably an ass man.
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>>76703472
Schumann. I have no evidence except that he's German though, which should be enough.
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>>76703415
For fuck's sake, get laid.
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Why do Canadian's have the best,most satisfying pianists?
>Gould
>Lortie
>Hamelin
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>>76700679
Boys: Bruckner
Teenagers: Mahler
Men: Brahms
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>>76703415
i'm taking some music theory courses on coursera, you can start with something like that, also get some scores and copy them
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>>76702779
t. violist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plpqb4jqHkU
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What was classical music called back when premiered?
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>>76704785
Music.
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>>76704785
Crunk-hop
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Brahms - Furtwangler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaTYaQP8IM
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>>76705114
Mozart is a rolling pin? Is this some underrating?
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>>76705114
Beethoven should read Petzold.
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>>76706138
*Bach
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Countess Delphina was born in 1807 and had married a lecherous fellow. In six years of marriage, she had five children all of whom died. She had met Chopin in Dresden, and, in Paris, had embarked on a series of one night stands and other relationships. She was known as the greatest sinner of them all. She played the piano and was quite attractive and had large breasts. She was alluring and a good time girl and not adverse to vulgarity. She and Chopin had a torrid and sweaty affair and his letters to her are explicit. He wrote of kissing her hard in very private places and how he was glad that she adored his genitalia. He wrote that this part of his anatomy were the source of all his artistic achievements. Such is the pornographic content of these letters that some Chopin admirers dismiss them as forgeries.
Chopin admitted that he wanted a woman permanently. There are confirmed stories of his gropings of women in their down below area and other indiscretions and advances. In fact, there are so many, that one is left with the conclusion that they must be true.
Bad tempered Chopin had a terrible altercation with a banker whom he referred to as a dog-flaying Jew. The travellers went to Prague and then on to Vienna where he visually raped all the pretty Viennese girls and ate strudel incessantly. This is stated in one of his letters.
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Does anyone have suggestions for musicians to listen to for someone who likes Franz Liszt and Fritz Kreisler? I enjoy waltzes, and like romantic influences.

Any suggestions and/or HQ links would be appreciated.
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>>76702779
so the trombone?
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>>76685723
>oh i love classical music, it helps me really concentrate and to relax
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>>76708045
*it really helps me to
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Prey singing Mahler

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFzyQqnvwVEQLUVW2k8fd9Bzn0wdFyHR5
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post god tier continuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd4AyjF_4FM

I want to start an acoustic metal band that's just baroque guitars, harpsichord, a cello and a violin (or maybe viola).
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>>76707333
Strauss/Viennese waltz fantasies are a good start if you like virtuosic, schmaltzy (in a good way) piano writing. Godowsky and the other composer-pianists wrote plenty of amazing transcriptions. Here are some of my favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3WReftB8sE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7PAZZZHwgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIq3ldxRIWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQ09EtACfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ9HOz1IwME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnpnqYh4Ngg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDG8jHkIRs

Also try Faure and Balakirev. Scriabin wrote a few fun little waltzes as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUK8mQ-_zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1uYbntyjqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssXlIR6FHD8
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>>76708672
I greatly appreciate this, Anon. I'll bookmark these links and crop this post, and be looking for torrents momentarily. I recognize a few of these (mostly the J. Strauss works), but I haven't heard of the others. I certainly look forward to finally delving into it further. Thank you.
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>>76708470
sounds truly revolting, anon, please don't
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>>76708966
someday I'll give an interview about how I triumphed against adversity, thanks anon
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Morton Feldman

Feldman: The reason I talk about this is because I feel that the younger composer has no comprehension of work. And I feel that that’s the door! That you could only become close by this continual work, close or distant, whatever it is to continue. I know as a teacher—and I’m very conscious of myself as a teacher in the past 20 years—I developed a kind of moral responsibility of seeing all these dead bodies from generation to generation. Now it’s not because they have no ideas or they don’t have talent, but it’s because the amount of work that really goes into writing a piece is incomprehensible to them.
Xenakis: Oh yes. . .
Feldman: It doesn’t seem important to talk about it but I feel it is the key many times. The other key of course is to understand just what is imagination, not what is interesting. The element of the composer’s imagination in a sense to where Xenakis is going and then Xenakis makes that leap and it’s something he’s never done and you’ve never heard it before! I feel that for young people you don’t put yourself in a position to make that leap and the reason you don’t make that leap is because you don’t question what is the work that has to go into composing.
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>tfw you are literally Sam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACGCiFVdOwY
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>>76696386
Please more like this.
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>>76708065
he's imitating a brainlet. I totally buy it. That's how they speak.
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>>76708470
>the lute player
What the fuck is he playing? And why does he move like a retard on drugs?
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How can anyone not like Mahler?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ke_6a9kZzA
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>>76709945
Isn't that a baroque guitar??
>>76708966
What's your problem with it? Poor performance? Just don't like period instruments?
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Can someone identify this piece? Its a piano trio or quartet, I think by Franzbert Schubertmann
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>>76710017
i believe they were referring to anon's disgusting metal band idea and not the music itself
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>>76702779
saxophone
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>>76708470
>https://clyp.it/focoemv0
post yfw you realized a guitar is just a fretted Oud
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>>76706259
>he visually raped all the pretty Viennese girls and ate strudel incessantly
my roodypoo
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>>76711318
didn't mean to paste that clypit, it's from another post and has nothing to do with the vivaldi or the oud comment. i must be high.
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4a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYLoo0R2wo
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Other than Sibelius 7th, Mahler 3rd, Tuba Mirum from Mozart's Requiem and the Wagner meme (ride of the valkyries), what are some prominent trombone solos? I heard Bruckner loved brass, but I haven't listened much to him.
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Fidelio is good.
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>>76713656
The libretto is dog shit.
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ADAGIO
NON
M O L T O
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Why is Petzold usually mentioned here in reference to Bach?
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post underrated mozart
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>mom found the spit pool corner
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>>76714872
>considered one of the greatest composers of all times
>underrated

why do you keep doing this
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>>76714943
condensation =/= spit
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>>76715005
>cousin found the H2O case
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>>76714872
https://youtu.be/ueN-U7ep61I
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>>76714856
Minuet in G major. (Petzold)
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>>76710034
Seriously. No ideas?
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>going to college
>girl I'm working on with a project shows some interest in classical during a discussion we had about music, "Oh, I love classical music" she says
>a month or two later go on a date, she picks me up since my car is getting repairs
>she starts blasting pop crap, The Eagles, i think
>ask her "Where's the classical?"
>she replies "Oh, I only listen to that when I'm studying."
>go through her iPod, only composer I can find is Chopin
>literally ONE (1) track and it's the E-flat major Nocturne

Why did she lie bros
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>>76715356
>she picks me up

stopped reading there, soyboy
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>>76715356
kill yourself already
>>76715381
you too
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>>76715447
baby didn't get his soymilk today
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>>76714509
Now this is a bad Libretto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-k4ApWyIv0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elvx0xvrWyw
post god-tier recordings
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>>76690660
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Vivaldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Rhuh2TSR8
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>>76716068
It literally can't get better than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBXBUjaC8xk
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>>76715356
>go through her iPod,
Don't go through other people's things, Anon.
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>>76716461
t. nice guy
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>>76716068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mm210cW7kg
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what piano should I buy
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>>76717053
none. You aren't going to go to the trouble of learning it anyway.
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>>76717111
kill yourself already
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>>76717119
Mike?
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>>76717160
your father is mike, now kys and stop posting jews
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Happy B-day, Finland!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjL43aXV-k
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>listen to performance by some famous 20th century or 21st century meme pianist
>it's a punch of ornamented "i'll make it my own" show-offy shit with mediocre sound quality that sounds distant and echo-ey

>listen to some no-name pianist on a cheap label
>plays the piece near perfectly, with correct tempo while still giving meaningful expression and ornamentation, but the focus is clearly on the composer not the performer, and the sound quality is crystal clear
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>>76717616
Heh... nice... upvoted
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>>76717616
Examples of the latter?
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>>76716068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qV6I3aWVQ
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>>76717517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GwvCLtJ_U
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>>76717697
Jenő Jandó
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>>76717697
Richter
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>>76717697
Walter Klien
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>>76717895
>Richter
>no-name
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does classical music get better the more you listen to it or am I retarded?
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>>76717895
>>76718317
>cheap label
he's like recorded a ton on Deutche Grammophon, Decca and Archiv (distributed by DG),
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>>76717199
You got it my man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MqAyETxn0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGMpiy5IIvw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrITNrgQHuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP41ifj7oZ4
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>>76718631
every music gets better when you figure out how to listen to it
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>>76719966
some music like the stuff on the charts doesn't really have much to offer on repeated listenings.
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What do you think about Bruckner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asJf3KmAg08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pioV8yB3iA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4IUfuNV12c
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>>76720039
Severely underrated
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>>76700679
Boys: Bruckner
Men: Mahler
Ûbermenschen: Shostakovich
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>>76720022
You just gotte get creative and then everything's a masterpiece.
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>>76716236
Based fugal sections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu_MgE_kTs4
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>>76717025
But atleast the perfomre isn't absolute shite like the other good recordings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIR4Miy3wjc
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Who was the best Siegfried?
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>>76716068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqbrK_H8Os
This but unironically
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>>76720923
Kramers
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>>76720952
>single voice
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>>76720039
Not a fan of the Karajan no. 8, it lacks the oomph it should have. Try this instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufqC1LCpHV4
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I dont know anything about Scribian but i heard this while looking for good RoS recordings and it was.. interesting. Any recs, and any history i should know about him?
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>>76721264
better pic
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>>76720923
Melchior and Lorenz. And both had the same teacher, too.
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>>76721264
>any history i should know about him?

Scriabin was a lazy composer. Most of his works are tiny as he was

His effeminacy was so severe and worrying that he was called Pussy, a definition used in the crude meaning and context in which that expression is used today. However, Scriabin had girl friends and boasted that he had ploughed many a virgin furrow

Scriabin’s marriage did not stop his having affairs with other women and underage girls many of whom he raped.

To go back to 1903 while at the Conservatory he taught one day a week, at the Catherine Institute for Girls.In 1903, he had sex with an underage girl and there were other serious indiscretions

He was a predator around little girls and a serial womaniser. He also was involved in crude homosexualacts. Like a contemporary psychic, he believed that he was Christ at one time, proving how mad he was. Hewas involved in spiritualism and therefore into dangerous cults. Rubbish has been taught about him such ashe influenced Prokofiev and Stravinsky. Even if that were true, he hated both of these composers
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>>76720923
Aldenhoff for young Sieg and Lorenz for adult Sieg.
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>>76721849
source pls
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>>76717199
>>76719662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAiG2oZgFEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN4zVfOkNzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT4HHwzzmeA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E4Bjt_zVJc
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>>76721849
wew
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>>76721849
wtf i love scriabin now
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Does anyone here buy classical vinyl records?

I went to my local record store today and found that they are priced significantly cheaper than rock/pop ones. All these together were only $50 (Canadian).

The operas and lieder came with really nice booklets that have the librettos translated in German, English, French & Italian; and photos of the performers.
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>>76722205
>DFD as Don Giovanni
>Birgit Nilsson singing Mozart
God help us. I didn't need to remember that.
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>>76721849
Why are all the best composers pedos?
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61UG3kL9aks
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any classical recordings where you can kind of "feel" the instruments playing? all these old and live recordings full of coughs aren't doing it for me.
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>>76722514
>there is a direct correlation to wanting to bang 16-17 year olds and genius
Holy shit, I'm a genius composer now
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>>76723773
What?
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQg1zBhH0Pk
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>>76724382

Schubert

In 1824, he delayed his departure to accept another invitation to join Count Esterhazy in Zseliz partly because he wanted to hear Beethoven’s Symphony no. 9. He had first visited Zseliz in 1819 and now, about six years later, Countess Marie was 21 years old, a good pianist and Caroline an impressionable 18 year old but, like Schubert, she was unhappy and this drew them together. He became fascinated by the young girl and would fantasize about her in bed at nights and stimulate himself. He referred to her as ‘ the certain attractive star’
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>>76724814
>Schubert is literally a man
Ok, you realize if I became a famous composer I'd literally fuck all my orchestra slags and women I tought or respected me? As would any other man
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>>76724870

Haydn or Beethoven wouldn't. Incidentally they are also great composers. Really makes you think.
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>>76724910
>Beethoven
>Fur Elise
>It is not certain who "Elise" was. Max Unger suggested that Ludwig Nohl may have transcribed the title incorrectly and the original work may have been named "Für Therese", a reference to Therese Malfatti von Rohrenbach zu Dezza. She was a friend and STUDENT of Beethoven's to whom he supposedly proposed marriage in 1810, though she turned him down to marry the Austrian nobleman and state official Wilhelm von Droßdik in 1816.
>Note that the piano sonata no. 24, dedicated to Countess Thérèse von Brunswick, is also referred to sometimes as "für Therese"

Dedicating a piece to a woman you proposed to.... that's text book I want your pussi and you wont give me it. ALso nice B8
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>>76724910
Haydn was a queer (you can feel it in his feminine baroque music) and Beethoven was a violent schizoid.
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>Haydn
>baroque
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>>76722514
I remember reading somewhere that Tchaik banged young male prostitutes (in addition to his weird nephew love)
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imagine finding weebposter and slowly crushing all the bones in his hands until he can't post in /classical/ ever again
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>>76725429
>not using /classical/ to test out your keyboard-dick-slap skills
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>>76725355
He does give off gay vibes desu.
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>>76725429
don't be so rude anon~
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So I'm broken hearted and debating texting an ex who left me like a chump. She didn't cheat but she just lost interest and she didnt want to be commuted.

The reason I bring this is what would be the most effective type of composition to dedicate to her to get rid of this hole inside me and move on with my life. Concerto, Symphony, Sonata, Chamber piece. I'm open to suggestions i just want to get it out and try something new (writing wise)
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How do I identify intervals by ear without putting them in a particular context?
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>>76725554
Compose a fucking opera about it where you're the loser and she leaves you for the Duke of Mantua.
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Also >she didn't cheat. >im fucking plying.
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>>76725684
it's only useful if you're writing music without an instrument which was old-fashioned even for Beethoven. If you're really interested in going down that route just be aware that it's only applicable to certain types of baroque music and loses its relevance in the Classical era.
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>>76725725
Wait that might work. Though she sidnt leave me for another she left me because she didnt want to be in a committed relationship. To be fair she was 17 and I'm 22
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>>76725785
>she was 17 and I'm 22
hello schubert >>76724814
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>>76725781
how is it not useful for composition in general?
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>>76725856
How *is* it useful? These days you can just have your computer play it for you as you compose. Whereas in the past it would be too tedious and slow to write at the piano, whence it became useful to be able to audiate intervals and treat them according to established theoretical procedures when writing non-keyboard music.
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>>76725825
So I'm a genius
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>>76725919
Yes but I'd rather be able to think of an interval in most of its possible contexts than try to fumble my way into the sound that's in my head.
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>>76725554
Just talk to her, you pussy. Stop using music as a crutch for your emotions. Rendering your sorrows and making them permanent isn't going to help you vent in any capacity whatsoever. If she lost interest in you, use that as fuel to get better at what you do and become more interesting. No one uses anything attached to bad experiences as a muse because they are simply too chaotic and illogical. Chopin, you can be sure, went through some bad shit throughout his life, and yet all of his nocturnes are dedicated not to the failed trysts and lost lovers, but to his close friends and acquaintances, whom he very much admired. You need to jump over the hurdles first if you want to eventually get to anything worth realizing in art.

>>76725785
Nevermind, ignore everything I just typed. You're a dipshit. 17 year olds are fucking retards, no exceptions. You're on two entirely different levels of emotional development. No 17 year old is going to look for a long term relationship whereas your twenties are instinctively the prime time for cavorting if you want to have healthy and strong children in the near future. Get a clue, moron.
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>>76725938
>think of an interval in most of its possible contexts
this is impossible, or at least it must be long preceded by an understanding of harmony. When Mozart writes a Neapolitan chord, he isn't choosing to harmonize the 4th with the flat 2nd while thinking that at the same time he could've chosen other intervals, he begins with the idea of using a Neapolitan chord and simply realizes it. And it is this way with every chord he wrote excluding explicitly idiomatic instrumental writing like piano concerti.
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>>76725995
so I should memorize chords instead of intervals?
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>>76726019
imo you should analyze harmony in tonal music, pick section that stand out to you in particular, and then drill the intervals used if you must. But I think analysis alone is probably enough.
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>>76726046
how does that help me for instance, faithfully transcribe a melody to a new key in my head? I don't doubt what you suggested is useful but I'm still trying to grok staff notation because I pretty much hate it.
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>>76726257
>hates staff notation
>understands transposition
>wants perfect pitch but doesn't have it
Your shit outta luck buddy
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>>76726257
I didn't know you were interested in transcription.

I suppose knowing intervals would be useful here but it's much less time consuming to just look at the score if it's available.

I got a music degree where I had to take eight courses in ear training and I consider it a supreme waste of time along with almost every other classically trained musician.
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>>76726290
Since when is relative pitch, perfect pitch? And I hate staff notation because it sets my autism off. Its so damn inefficient. I don't have a better system to replace it but it still doesn't change the fact that there is an overall lack of internal consistency in the system.

>>76726302
Of course I'm interested in transcription. Melodies tend to move to various keys during the course of a piece.
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Will listening to classical music increase my IQ?
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>>76725414
hot
>you will never have a russian silver daddy composer to fug you
why even live?
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>>76726399
it will definitely help your musical understanding anon.
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How are balletts composed
dance > music
or
music > dance?
(not comparison arrows)
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>>76715356
Women dont actually like or understand music
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Can anyone identify the first piece in this? If anyone feels like putting together a list that would be cool, I've googled the performance and there's no info other than the name of the quartet. They're really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rm1fNbqJBc
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>>76726624
It's very Haydneseque, but I don't think it's actually Haydn. I doubt it's Mozart because I know all of those pieces by memory. Likely an early Beethoven quartet, I'd imagine.
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>>76726740
I went through all of Haydn quartets in B and didn't find it. It might be Spohr?
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>>76726792
*B flat
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>>76726792
Nope. I was right, it's Beethoven.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pr2GxnxSwEM
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>>76726825
Yeah admittedly I haven't gone through all of Op. 18 yet and found it right after I posted.
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What do you listen for in a piece, /classical/?
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>>76727142
anachronisms
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>>76727142
Polyphony
Top tier harmony that causes an emotional response
Invertible counterpoint or imitation
Interesting Orchestration (if applicable)
Contrast
Mostly unpredictable melodies.
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>>76727575
Polyphony you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhz6rKHXmyg
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>>76727142
pain and sorrow
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>>76727142
the prose
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>>76727746
eh. There is some polyphony and some interesting orchestration but its missing all the other things on my list - no notable melodies or harmony.

Bach is the composer that most satisfies my list, except not so much in the orchestration area.
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>>76727946
oh sorry I was reading those as alternatives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIGoB7rK70


well here you are then
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>>76717758
This is such a wooden performance. He also makes several mistakes.
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>>76716320
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FAGGOTS POSTING? THAT IS EAR RAPE HOLY SHIT!
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>>76728130
it's avant garde tuning u turbopleb it's art you just dont get it
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>>76728154
I am being trolled aren't I?
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>>76728176
no absolutely not
please educate yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqBzFcHQis
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>>76728192
Kill yourself.
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>>76728362
not my fault your a turbopleb
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>>76728055
I do quite like Rautavaara. I'm very familiar with this piece. My favorite of his is the Harp Concerto.
Unless you post something incredibly obscure, odds are I already know the piece.
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>>76727746
>>76728055

What's the point of these slap every note on the orchestra at once pieces?
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Rec me some music that has a lot of seamless timbral shifts
Like this obvious Webern example with "klangfarbenmelodie" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIHDY0WEktw
Or the last chord of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Y8jbQoYbQ
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>>76728474
>slap every note on the orchestra at once
But that is not what's happening at all. Deaf?
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>>76714943
what's spit pool corner?
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>>76728654
the last one which was supposed to focus on the disharmonies I actually found the most pleasant. The one focused on consonances I found awful. How can you explain that?
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>>76725355
what
Haydn was masculine as hell
disregarded his boring marriage, literally screwed his singers
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>>76729202
probably because the conssonances between the cells are weaker than the internal ones so the example that most emphasizes dissonance allows them to behave like rhythmic elements providing tonal color
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What role do scales have in classical music?
Like I understand that scales dictate which notes are chosen, but do the scales change within a composition? Are they altered?
Could somebody please explain? Or do I need to go through melody and then harmony to understand?
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>>76729338
first of all the form of a composition matters, since a composer is able to see a composition as a structure, not as a "song"
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>>76729338
depends entirely on the piece. In classical the piece will generally modulate between the relative minor and major. Notes not in the scale (in its current key) are called chromaticsms. By the time you get to the Ruskis like Borodin they are utilizing exotic modes and its more useful to think of these as new "scales" like the major and minor scales. And the impressionists use modes chromatically (for instance Debussy often repeats a phrase in the relative dorian to cushion a shift to minor)
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>>76729338
what a stupid question
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>>76729590
>>76729394
>>76729390
Ok I don't understand.
I am very sorry for wasting your time ):
And it's not just stupid question I am stupid as well...
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>>76729630
easy question: they play the same role as in any other music
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>>76729390
This is a very retarded answer.

You didn't answer the guy at all and changed the subject to form but without providing any substantial information about form. If you're going to change the subject at least say something of worth about the new subject. Note that the guy you replied to never used the word "song" and instead used "composition"

>>76729338
A scale is essentially the notes of a key. Composers use keys in many ways. Sometimes a piece is in one key, sometimes a piece moves through many keys. It depends on the period and often on the specific composer and/or the specific piece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_(music)

>do the scales change within a composition?
Some composers change key all the time without you even noticing, others do it more dramatically.

>Are they altered?
yes, often. Composers often raise or lower notes in order to get new harmonies or to make more pleasant melodies. Sometimes composers use the older scales called "modes" or sometimes they use atonal 'scales' called 12-tone rows.

>do I need to go through melody and then harmony to understand?
Pretty much yes:
https://www.musictheory.net/lessons
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>>76685723
Hey, first time ever posting on /mu/
I want to get balls deep into classical music. I've always enjoyed it, but never gone too in depth. You know, just the basic Beethoven and Mozart type stuff.
So do I just work through the first folder in the OP?
Over on /lit/ we always talk about "starting with the Greeks", so what is it for classical? Which period/artists/movement does a beginner start with?
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>>76730676
Start with Petzold.
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>>76730676
Bach, he's pretty much the foundation for what came afterwards. There's a bunch of playlists of his stuff on YouTube, I recommend picking one and listening until you hear a couple pieces that stick out.
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>>76730676
Well if you really want the first first Montverdi is pretty much the first important guy. Though like literature you should probably start a bit later with something like Bach or Haydn.
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I know it's technically the Winterreise time of year, but Die Schone Mullerin breaks my heart every time I hear it.
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>>76720903
Here's this girl 5 years later, from 4 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4nsrRBIpSI
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>>76726519
you can't choreograph a dance for music you don't have, and choreography can go by much quicker than composing. The music comes before the dance.
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>>76729169
brass players have to empty their instrument of condensed water from their breath
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>>76728192
>Many modern composers and musicians found this to be interesting and even profound; the comedic aspects of the music were merely a bonus, though it was used extensively for marketing purposes.
>Brian Eno was interested enough to join the orchestra, playing clarinet, and subsequently producing their first two albums.
ahahahahahaha
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this thread is absolutely shit
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>>76731169
:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2rYD7MACuc
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>>76690660
I want to believe that it actually takes great skill to pretend to play this catastrophically
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>>76716320
holy fuck how does someone unironically put this online.
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Just discovered Mauricio Kagel yesterday and I must admit, i’m floored.

Need recs of similar composers !?!
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A L L E G R O
M O L T O
V I V A C E
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>>76731169
*shoves you*
SAY THAT TO MY FUCKING FACE, FAGGOT.
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>>76731589
Petzold
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A D A G I O

E X P R E S S I V O
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Boccherini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUSnRLPbZGk




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