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>"The majestic Fl Studio with tonnes of beautiful tools vs. 1 able-to-N boi" edition

DON'T POST Soundcloud, YouTube, or any other links where you are not anonymous (unless somebody asks you for it). That's considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback.

GIVE feedback and RECEIVE feedback. Upload WIPs on https://clyp.it/

>RESOURCES:
Sound Design:
>SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SeamlessR
>Rocket Powered Sound (Constant quality uploads of various EDM sounds in Serum with explanations that help make something unique)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFReVt5TAC1zGnuNkgHw-fg
>Syntorial (widely considered the best place to go to learn synthesis)
https://www.syntorial.com/
>Mr. Bill (Ableton based Sound Design)
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrBillsTunes
>Sadowick (explains old school electronic music in very elaborate ways in Ableton)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SadowickProduction
>ADSR Music Production Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf5UKh_cj2_5pUomhyswWYQ

MIXING:
>David Gibson - The Art of Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjOdqZFvhY [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>Point Blank Music School
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIWNozFjO8yVdJFsGKVmPgg
>Pensado's Place
https://www.youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace
>Samori Coles (Compression, EQ, etc)
https://www.youtube.com/user/homestudiotutor/videos
>Modern Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/user/ModernMixing/videos

FL STUDIO:
>WarBeats (Getting comfortable in FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/nfxbeats/videos
>Image Line Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/user/imageline/playlists

WRITING:
>12tone
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTUtqcDkzw7bisadh6AOx5w/playlists
>Micheal New
https://www.youtube.com/user/Rhaptapsody/playlists
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Oh wow a new thread just in time lol

Goodnight /prod/
Tbh I've put too many hours into other creative outlets the past couple days. I just did one dilla style beat today :S

Gotta get serious again tomorrow you guys! (:
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>spacey windy synths
>Kiasmos-y piano
>orchestra in the background
>rhythmic glockenspiels and crescendos

i think i fucked up on the mixing and mastering quite a lot. i'll redo it with fresh ears later.
does anybody have anything constructive?

https://clyp.it/u05uirr3
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DO YOU KNOW NOT WHAT A VSTI IS SHITHEAD
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>>81389414
I can't record any vst instruments please recommend a sample library of loops so I can play them
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>>81389211
i think the piano playing chords in the foreground from the beginning is compressed too much, i'd try taking it back a tad. apart from that very nice comfy chillout tune. you might want to build into that orchestral crescendo bit some more though, as it is it seems to be going nowhere in an ambient way at first and then suddenly turns yann tiersen - bit more buildup please. the glockenspiel in that part doesnt sound 100% right to me. a lot of criticism, but just because i think this is actually quite good and close to finished.
p.s.:it's also too long xD
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>>81389443
just use a sample loop vsti
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>>81389500
You mean the crescendo arount the third minute that turns yann tiersen at 3:10, or the last crescendo at 4:30?
Thank you very much, i'll save what you wrote and will look into it.
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>>81389664
i mean the first one
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>>81389514
>being such a dawlet you need a vst to loop samples
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>>81389766
cool, thanks!
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>>81389811
Hook line and sinker
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https://clyp.it/42krglu3
https://clyp.it/zziyioje
Both are drafts with no real structure, but would like to get some input on the sound of it and maybe some suggestions on how to proceed from here.

>>81389211
Really like the sound of that, but the drums seem kind of out of place. I think orchestral percussions would sound a bit better, but that's just my opinion
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>>81390729
>https://clyp.it/42krglu3
love that kind of guitar sound in the beginning, bit like neal young's dead man soundtrack - what effects do you use? the whole thing sounds a bit like dengue fever - basically put lyrics to it and youre done imo.
>https://clyp.it/zziyioje
the synthwave one shows how much easier it is to make something sound good with just guitars ; ) i think it's generally too dry, especially the drums. the lead synth sounds a bit cheap, you might consider leaving out that mod wheel fuckery and maybe layer it with more sounds. fun stuff both, i like it!
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>>81391404
Thanks for the feedback. The first one is made in Guitar Pro with RSE, just an overriden guitar with the Amp Tones and British Stack Dist - Chorus preset. I feel like I should add maybe a chorus and a full blown solo to complete it, just don't have any inspiration.

Being primarily a guitar player the "slides" in the second track felt natural. Got any tips on making the lead sound better? I installed FL a week ago, with the second track being one of the first proper things I tried to make, so I'm still figuring how to make things sound good.
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>>81391794
to improve the lead sound i'd say layer it with more synths playing the same midi notes so it sounds more saturated and the sound gets more detailed, it could use more detail as a whole. if you like the slides please don't let me discourage you from them, i just don't like the sound.
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I havent done shit in a month
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>>81392178
then do something now! think of that tune you like so much and make something like that!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWIqXzvX-U

how hard would it be to recreate this synth on Synth1?
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>>81392896
super easy my dude!
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>>81392875
Just came up with something really cool. Was about fucking time.
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I kept working on this Belle & Sebastian style/chamber pop number - any opinions how the mix could be improved (i am a shitty singer, that will take more practice, but apart from that?)
are the drums sounding too loud? is it too in your face?

https://clyp.it/cksixhsg
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>>81393965
always glad to help
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>>81394079
>are the drums sounding too loud?
no, quite the contrary
>is it too in your face?
no, since everything is drowned in reverb
take off all effects and start with leveling your mix and then maybe add back 15-20% of the fx you used
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>>81394130
got it. gonna get my pink noise...
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Are there some absolute bare minimum mixing/mastering techniques one should implement on every track even if they are going for a lo-fi neo-psychadelic aesthetic?
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>>81394214
>lo-fi neo-psychadelic
yikes
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>>81394243
Here's your (You)
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>>81394243
Said the 16 year old bedroom trap producer
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>>81394214
there's no reason not to go for the highest possible fidelity you can get out of your material
so use all the techniques you can and know
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>>81394464
I'd say there is lo-fi music (not the chill youtube meme beats bullshit) that has at least some sort of production done to it, and I just want to know what that is. I'm assuming it's just a matter of getting levels right and doing some panning and minor eq. I'd like to figure out how to get a sound similar to Black Moth Super Rainbow or R Stevie Moore.
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https://clyp.it/amsrcecg
how can i improve on this?
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>>81394461
said the guy in the only thread on /mu/ where 16 year old bedroom trap production is worth more than lofi neo psych trash
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>>81394681
>https://clyp.it/amsrcecg
you can't, it's a certified hood classic
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>>81394130
i took off all reverbs and delays and mixed it with pink noise and it immediately sounds so much better. i often get sidetracked in doing all these effects while composing, then in the end it sounds like mush. that was the last time, and never mixing without pink noise again either.

https://clyp.it/5t1xnvwf

i struggle with reverbs i think - something in my brain makes me want to pile more and more of it on, whatever i do. how wet would you guys recommend to go on a lead vocal like this?
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>>81395173
and yeah, gotta work on those strings sounding real some more...
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>>81395173
So the pink noise mixing is legit? Haven't tried it yet myself
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>>81395101
u right u right
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>>81395249
compare my two clyps, night and day. and it takes seconds
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>>81395249
no it's just a gimmick
literally just learn to use reference tracks lol
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https://clyp.it/jlsjj4ff?token=f3ce807c23b90a0a8554ec98d846f121

feedback on mix for my new order cover? its not supposed to be super sleek but somethign feels a lil off
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does anyone here have a minilogue? how do you like it? any complaints?
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>>81396393
according to research most women will not date a man known to have had homosexual encounters
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>>81394214
Lol honestly
It's a culmination of everything so there is no minimum. Stop shooting so low
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>>81396727
R- really? (Sauce)
A lot I'd believe but most/majority? Fuck
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>>81394214
There's lo-fi
>I don't know what I'm doing and don't give a shit

and then there's lo-fi
>a specific aesthetic decision made by the producer having nothing to do with their ability

The second one is preferable. Sure some people have made bangers in the first category I don't deny that musical ability is more important than production skill. Look at Burial and making everything in SoundForge- but the fact of the matter is that if you understand how to have high fidelity, you understand how to use low fidelity as an aesthetic.

My 2c do whatever you want it's your music
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>>81394214
To expand >>81396960
since I'm off that amphetamine salt

Many producers overcomplicate the process of mixing.

Look at a rock band, they sound good live with minimal mixing- why?

Their instruments all fit in their own little space inside of the imaginary box of sound that is music. You hear from 30hz to 20khz (or whatever the numbers aren't the point), your goal should more or less be to have all your instruments fit in this imaginary box with as little overlap as possible.

Sure you could just go ham on the EQ after composition but that is basically polishing a turd.

Instead during composition you say:

I have a bass instrument, a lead instrument, atmospheric instrument and rhythmic elements and these should all more or less fit their own space or in the case of the rhythmic elements they should more or less conform to having low, lowmid, high mid and high frequency ranges (kick, toms, snare, hats).

If you compose with the idea that you are a "virtual band" in mind and do not overfill your box or have various instruments competing for space in your box, then your job when mixing is very simple- maybe a adjust a level here or there, add some light EQ, boom ready to master.

Mastering:

If you can afford LANDR or similar, these are great. If not just aim to achieve a maximum loudness so that when your song is played next to others it doesn't feel thin or quiet.

You don't fix anything in the master and your ability to push the overall loudness of your track depends on how good a job you did during the mixing phase.


I hope that this helps, this is how I learned to mix from my friend that went to school for audio engineering. He told me that when people send him tracks that don't compositionally make sense as far as frequencies it's way harder and it's just polishing a turd that would never be as good as a well composed track.
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>>81396716
yeah, I love it
it's pretty limited, feels a lot more like 4 daisychanied mono synths compared to one of the "big" polys like a prophet with the lack of stereo out, the colorful delay as the only effect and so on, but you can still get these wide, fat pads out of it by using some pedals or do additional fx in your daw.
the sound as in the filter, mixer and oscs are great and when retuned after 20ish minutes (when it warmed up) it stays in tune nicely, no nasty drift and the quick auto-tune feature is great in case something doesn't quite match after a couple of hours.
some of the voice modes are a pure gimmick which korg realized and just left them out with the prologue, but the basics like mono, poly, duo, unison and the arp are working great and the "depth" knob always has a really useful function.
the 3 small menus are pretty simple and quick to memorize because it's just spread out on the voice mode keys, so you know by heart how to change the handful of parameters that are in the menu only and not on the surface but still needed frequently.
of course it's not the greatest tool if you want to do some crazy modulation, in case you need more than what's built in (don't forget abou the 4 "modulation tracks" in the sequencer that allow you to automate parameters) you need to use external modulation via midi or your daw, but I think they did some smart hard-wiring f.e. with the filter envelope being able to modulate the lfo and/or the pitch of the second osc and small things like that which solve a lot of the limitations making for some pretty crazy sound design possibilities.
my biggest complaint is probably the bass sounds, the mono mode sounds great with the additional sub osc and all, but it just lacks the dirt and punch in the envelopes and no drive in the filter/mixer so I always end up with a similar sounding bass I can make work by putting some distortion on it, it's just not great when compared to a moog or so
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>>81396727
the operative word here being "known"
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>>81396727
>most
>known

I once drunkenly agreed to kiss my friend if my GF kissed one of my girl friends. Of course, my girlfriend being the diabolical mastermind she is, waiting for me to return to sobriety the next day to collect on our agreement.

It's not like she enjoyed it in a sexual way, she just enjoyed mine and my friends mutual suffering as our beards grazed each others faces.

TL;DR Never go beard to beard, unless I guess youre actually gay.
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>>81397132
thanks for all the info. with all that being said it seems like a good choice for someone new to synthesis? i've been trying to decide if i want the minilogue or either the d or neutron by behringer, but i think i'm leaning towards the korg. modular might be a bit too much for me to start with and i think i would feel gimped with only one voice. not sure if i know of any other polysynths that are in my price range
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>>81397088
To go even further I guess, it's a bit more complicated than that.

You can "cheat" using stereo to give instruments their own space, but do it too much and the result is cheesy and chaotic.

I'm not saying you should NEVER break these rules, but much like music theory, it's better to KNOWINGLY break them than to just arbitrarily make MISTAKES,

The difference between knowing and not knowing is that one is an aesthetic choice and the other is a rookie mistake.
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okay, last time with my little chamber pop number here then i stop boring you guys with it:
https://clyp.it/eiga332y
what do you think about the mix? i feel maybe the cello is too loud, but not sure. also not sure about the panning at all anymore. any opinions?
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>>81397274
Analog Four MK1 is relatively inexpensive on eBay and I can vouch for it's quality.

You can use it as 4 mono synths or any combination of poly up to four voices.

2 + 2
3 + 1

etc

The sequencer also allows you to lock parameters and even sound presets to a step so you can have like your typical "dance" groove on one voice

Kick on first
Open Hat on Third
Snare on Fifth

Or whatever
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>>81397274
I think it would be great for learning substractive synths, great hands-on controls and the little oscilloscope is neat. also you can just load in some presets and look how they're made and also save all your stuff
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>>81397313
not too loud, what role are you trying to give the cello? I feel it could do with some high passing for clarity.

Not my usual kind of music so take whatever I say with a grain of salt. If it means anything I found it pleasant to listen to
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>>81396777
fag detected
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>>81397373
good idea with the high-pass! pleasant means a lot already to be honest, i am quite unsure about my voice being passable - cheers.
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>>81397334
>>81397352
thanks a million
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>>81397484
honestly man your voice aint bad, I dunno if you fuck with Kodak but he has a terrible voice and it really works with his music because of it's expressiveness.

Besides making something really poppy, if you lean into the characteristics of your voice and "learn" the unique quirks of your voice it can shine.

This nigga Kodak is ugly as fuck, his voice is ugly, and yet he makes (IMO) some very emotionally charged hiphop that isn't cheesy. In this day and age, having any level of expressiveness in hiphop is a feat and he does it despite having an objectively bad voice. His musical ability is good enough that he OWNS the sound of his voice.

Not that your voice is that bad, I'm just trying to be motivational.
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>>81395249
It’s a cool trick for beginners but worthless when you learn to use your ears.
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>>81397088
>during composition you say:
>I have a bass instrument, a lead instrument, atmospheric instrument and rhythmic elements and these should all more or less fit their own space or in the case of the rhythmic elements they should more or less conform to having low, lowmid, high mid and high frequency ranges (kick, toms, snare, hats).

To add to this - time domain. If you have two instruments that you know in advance will clash frequency-wise when played together, don't play them together, yeah it's unavoidable if you want a bassline that follows your kick but with other instruments in the mid-range you have the option to have them all contribute to the mix by giving them their own time to exist within.
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>>81397719
>To add to this - time domain. If you have two instruments that you know in advance will clash frequency-wise when played together, don't play them together, yeah it's unavoidable if you want a bassline that follows your kick but with other instruments in the mid-range you have the option to have them all contribute to the mix by giving them their own time to exist within.

YES

Forgot to mention the time element thank you

In old school disco-

The bass notes hit separate from the kick drum to give clarity.

In a modern DAW you can either do that or you can sidechain the bass to the kick. However keep in mind that compositionally just having them hit at separate times is "groovier"

However a common dance production trick is to have a droning bass line that is sidechained by the kick. The groove of the bassline is not played directly but is a response to the kick. So you just hold a bass note and when the kick comes in it ducks, but if you look at it from a composition standpoint all you are doing is creating space on the timeline.
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>>81397201
>Never go beard to beard, unless I guess youre actually gay.
Good advice. I still regret that time I fucked a dude. Sucking dick is fucking gross and no straight man should do it.

Protip if you think you’re not gay you’re most likely not gay
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>When you're watching a PiL or Smiths songs on youtube and the comments are saying 'dat bassline' and its a because there's a few passing 16th notes and arpeggiations of the triad instead of just following the root note

Why am I not hearing DAT BASSLINE? Is it because I don't have speakers?
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>>81397873
>Why am I not hearing DAT BASSLINE? Is it because I don't have speakers?
yes
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>>81397913
But if I have decent monitoring headphones and I can hear it clearly isn't that enough? Or am I supposed to feel it?

At '''work''' I hear tracks played back through genelecs/NS-10s in a treated room and I never hear or feel DAT BASSLINE

Is it not just shoegazing fags impressed at a bassist being able to play beyond sid vicious levels? because a lot of these basslines sound like clutter and overkill to me
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>>81398028
In rock music I would say that the bassline is often just the root note of whatever the guitar is playing so it is a bit difficult to hear. It would become more clear to you if you could put a high pass on it like from a DJ mixer. Then when you bring it back the bass elements become clear.
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>>81397395
not all gays are fags you shouldn't just assume such things anon
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>>81398053
When I hear a bassline that's exhibitionist in a mix that's already bright and busy it annoys tf out of me.

Only time I go DAT BASSLINE towards a busy line is when there's a clearing and the bassline is a focal point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsazIACpYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY6_gWFUKHk

:25

The only time I usually take notice of the bassline is when it's minimalist but clever like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvr4nK4AZA
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Convince me not to buy the soundtoys 5 bundle right now (unable to pirate it, on OSX)
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>>81398222
buy it, it's fantastic
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>>81398213
I don't really listen to enough rock music to comment to be honest.

Most music that I listen to and produce either has a very pronounced and important bassline (disco[and its derivatives], hiphop, jazz) or no definite bassline (ambient, drone, experimental).

I'm actually in a black metal "band" with my friend (its just us two) and I write all the parts that aren't guitar and vocals- I barely write basslines, usually just the root note and then up a third and a fifth or a third and a seventh. Shit like that.

I feel like rock music in general shouldn't have a bassline thats IN YOUR FACE, its more about the rock groove with the guitar and drums. The bass is just there so that the music doesn't bottom out when the guitar goes to the higher registers.

Also I didn't listen to any of that lol sorry
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>>81398213
>>81398028
honestly you just sound like a fag who overthinks post-punk and can't into it

people who listen to that shit like riffy/easytohear bass lines, that's it. even if it's dead simple shit like PiL or Gang of Four gets those guys rock hard

>>81398222
>Convince me not to
I can't anon
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>>81398222
its on sale right now maybe the best time to buy it until black Friday comes again
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>>81398302
>honestly you just sound like a fag who overthinks post-punk and can't into it
a bit more mean than what I wrote >>81398293
but yeah man don't overthink it. the focal point is elsewhere in rock music in general
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>>81398222
forgot to mention it's on sale right now.. even though those 2 replies got me convinces lmao if I can get the student discount im going for it.
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>>81397088
Thanks for the response. I do agree that it is preferable to have the knowledge and use that to break the rules to achieve the lo-fi aesthetic.

Maybe I should have rephrased my original question to ask what production techniques I should focus on first, because I still want to improve. I've played in bands and been writing music for a while now, but I'm still a scrub when it comes to production.
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https://clyp.it/uxsfa1zb

Anyone have any advice for getting started on sound design?
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>>81398362
Just write music with my advice in mind, this is the biggest step toward a good mix and no youtube tutorial is going to tell you that.

You mix by choosing good samples and instruments that fit together from the get go. EQ is for minor adjustments not for sound design.

If you wanna do sound design, open a synth and do it there.
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>>81398413
bass extremely loud lmao

How to get started with sound design
>open two copies of a synth
>one is init the other is a patch you want to copy
>get as close as possible while figuring out what the knobs do
>learn the basics of synthesis
>try to not use effects until you are at least somewhat proficient- meaning you can dial a basic key, bass, lead, atmosphere from the init.
>then learn to use effects to make those sounds better

OR you could just not do sound design at all and just tweak sounds, it really all depends. From what I heard, you seem to lean toward composition and maybe you'd benefit more from something like Nexus.
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>>81398222
I swear by it, just for echoboy and primaltap alone. They make other delay/echo plugins sound like shit to my ears.

Echoboys is so tweakable you can learn it like you would an instrument. Learn how the EQ section works with the decay/gain/shelving/resonance to get different feedback colors and see how the saturation and input levels effect everything. You get beautiful sounds from it. Hard to believe it's a fairly old plugin.

PrimalTap is a newer one that sounds great, the multiply setting on it brings the sample rate down and has an awesome early digital crust to it. Try recording a long improv of noodling on a synth or run some drums through it and hit freeze while changing the multiply(downsample) while throwing the delay time up and down. Run it through another instantiation and hit freeze again and you get weird amazing sounds.

https://clyp.it/kuw4qxks

That's just two slightly detuned oscs on a VA, moving the multiply knob and hitting freeze, there's load of other totally different sounds you can get. I know Prince swore by the hardware version. I can't wait til I actually know it inside out.
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>>81398302
But Im obsessed with post punk and stuff of that era I just don't get the hype about those busy basslines where it's not a memorable riff but just filling it up with notes
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>>81398735
same here, can't live without echoboy and decapitator
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>>81398873
>I just don't get the hype

I don't understand what kind of answer you're expecting; you don't like a kind of bassline that a lot of other people like. That's it. There's nothing wrong with you except maybe a slight hint of autism
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>still getting asio glitches after big windows 10 update
>randomly have to turn ableton audio engine off and on even when just listening to other music
>months
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>>81398992
>slight hint
haha yeah it's definitely just a slight hint you're right
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>>81399065
same but with Reason.

At least it doesnt happen mid session but randomly when I open it it takes forever and then says "Audio Engine Failed to Initialize" and I have to go and select a non-ASIO and select ASIO again and its fine.

Kind of annoying
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I want to be a music producer where should i start?
i have a pc but FL studio costs a lot and i can't find where to get registry keys from
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excuse the lack off effects and shit mixing but how does my idea sound so far?
I wanna name it "burgandy velvet" and I wanna use a rhodes piano in it but I dont know where,
the acoustic guitars seem kinda overwhelming so I might replace them with my semihollowbody and some reverb
https://clyp.it/svvmtlpp
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>>81399174
>2k18
>still doesn't know how to torrent
Jesus fucking christ
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>>81399065
what interface are you using?
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>>81399207
>2018
>trusting public tracker exes/keygens
shig
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>>81399065
>FL studio causes clicks on other softwares regardless of reducing sampling and auto close
>everything but fl sounds like shit if I want my latency to be <2ms
>basically have to restart my computer everytime I want to use it after doing and fl studio project
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>>81399244
>2k9+9
>giving a fuck
siggery diggery dock the mouse ran up your cock
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>>81398873
youd have some trouble with post bebop jazz bud
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does anyone use renoise or reaper, or are the just meme daws
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>>81394214
>>81394243
>>81394461
>>81394687
>not making minimal techno

Y I K E S
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>>81397873
>few passing 16th notes and arpeggiations of the triad
>denouncing music by understating the theory behind it
theory fags still need to be red pilled on the irrelevancy of sound to its written theory
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>>81399332
>not making industrial gamelan

Y I K E S
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>>81397678
thanks man!
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these latest prods have been so comfy and helpful, is summer over already?
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>>81398072
>not all gays

look at this fuckin fag doubling down lmao
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>>81399200

I like that as it stands right now - if you're gonna add an electric piano I'd maybe go for a Wurlitzer sound instead, in a similar pitch range to the Crusaders "Street Life" solo.
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>>81399332
>not making ultra chill lofi beets

G A Y
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>>81400259
>lofi beets
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>>81399332
ayyy my brother. what you makin? I'm currently working on some house with like 90s sounds and shit. Gonna put it out on EP soon actually so I dunno if I post it here does it count as self-promo?

Either way though I'll give feedback, I've been giving feedback to these other guys but I don't really fuck with the music they're making in terms of genre so if you got techno I can actually give you meaningful feedback
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>>81397838
>Sucking dick
too far my G, out of my situation i saw two girls kiss and it was basically a dare- it sounds like you just sucked a dick dude lmfao
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>>81400309
lmao have fun with that pic my guy
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>>81400548
>>81397838
>not willing to suck dick

never gonna make it in the music industry
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>>81399324
every poorfag uses reaper and tries to justify it by shitting on everybody

everybody who's on renoise is a tryhard or picked literally at random and didn't realize they picked something nobody else uses and can't turn back now lmao
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>>81401093
what would you recommend for someone who can't afford ableton and isn't on a mac
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>>81401114
fl studio is probably the best deal if youre poor
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>>81401114
just use reaper
or fl if you're doing hiphop/electronic because >>81401157


regardless be self-aware and don't be a faggot
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>>81401114
You can pirate Ableton pretty easily and safely through trusted websites such as audioz.download or audionews.org.
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>>81401114
https://audioz.download/software/win/139320-download_ableton-live-suite-v1001-incl-patched-and-keygen-r2r.html
This is where the actual download links are (in case you're not familiar with the site):
https://peeplink.in/387fee93d7c0
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WRITERS BLOCK FUCK ME UP FUCK
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>>81401114
ableton
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>>81401245
>>81401300
thanks, i never knew about this. should get linked in the op
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>>81401945
lol no it shouldnt just be grateful that they held your hand that hard this one time
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>>81398457
> EQ is for minor adjustments not for sound design.
This is stupid. I agree that attempting redesigning sounds at the time of the final mixdown is a waste of time and will never come near actually making a proper arrangement that's not so dependent on the mix to gel together and sound musical.
But when actually doing straightforward sound design and preparing your instruments, using all kinds of fx/resampling/mangling alongside the synth parameters is the best way to go, transforming sounds, layering and enriching your textures literally to no limit. The tools are there, they can improve your timbre and dynamics, they can take you to unexpected places that excite your creativity and challenge your technique. There's not a single reason not to use them, unless ypu're a noob still trying to understand the concepts of synthesis. Then it's good to stick to basics and struggle to listen to its behaviour in a more explicit environent.
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How do I make better, more interesting and engaging melodies?

https://clyp.it/l2gg0rjc
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>>81399244
1.have backup of all your data.
2.set up a strong firewall with dont allow as default, only let through programs you trust and know they need to go to the internet
3.watch task manager every once in a while and get familisr with what you're usually running
Malicious code, in 99% of the cases, can encrypt your data and ask for reward, solved by (1), download other malicious code or send your data like behavior or passwords you type to third parties, solved by (2), or run software on your background like crypto-miners, solved by (3).
Enjoy pirating. If you're extra worried or too retarded to do 3 steps, just make a new partition on HDD or get another disk, install pirated windows on it and only run audio stuff on that, using your default for everything else.
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>>81399065
>>81399137
>>81399277
core audio masterrace checking in
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>>81402387
>But when actually doing straightforward sound design and preparing your instruments, using all kinds of fx/resampling/mangling alongside the synth parameters is the best way to go, transforming sounds, layering and enriching your textures literally to no limit. The tools are there, they can improve your timbre and dynamics, they can take you to unexpected places that excite your creativity and challenge your technique. There's not a single reason not to use them, unless ypu're a noob still trying to understand the concepts of synthesis. Then it's good to stick to basics and struggle to listen to its behaviour in a more explicit environent.

Yeah man all right but this guy was a noob, this was a response to "what is the minimum amount of mixing knowledge I need"

Although personally, I do synthesis from scratch and usually only use the EQ and filtering inside of the synth unless I'm resampling. If you have a different opinion thats fine and I don't think either one is wrong.

>you guys know these are all opinions right
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>>81402498
learn basic scales and nail your chord changes and then start incorporating accents and more compelling rhythms into your melodic elements with some syncopation n shiet
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Guys what's the minimum gear required to start practising music production?
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>>81402498
Add some arpeggios, learn scales and intervals, and for fucks sake, keep it below 0db, the levels should never go above that.
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>>81402755
a daw
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>>81402755
12 buttons
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>>81402755
your dad's tape recorder from the 70s
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Which is better Nexus or Omnisphere?
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>>81402728
Ok, it's just that you put it in a dogmatic way that could cause confusion on noobs and make them think doing sound-design more dynamically had some kind of problem.

> I do synthesis from scratch and usually only use the EQ and filtering inside of the synth unless I'm resampling
I also do it from scratch but quite often go for more complex/unique sounds by using other tools and layering with other synths. Even if your synth has built-in fx, they'll have similar calibrations and engine, so it may get too predictable if you're always using them. But obviously this will only be an issue depending on the kind of sounds you're going for in the first place.
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>>81402571
or just buy a mac amirite
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>>81402896
>better
nexus if you're lazy memerap maker
omni if you score movies or whatever if basically anything else

basically
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TELL ME A TIME SIGNATURE TO MAKE AN IDM BEAT RIGHT NOW while i make the kit pls be quick
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Soundtoys 5 comes with 2 keys, apparently it can be used with 2 iLoks. Can you sell the second key that you get?
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>>81403916
no what that actually means is you have 2 activations for separate computers at once you only get 1 license as a locked group
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>>81402755
the computer you typed this on and a pirated daw
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>>81402898
fx isnt the same as EQ tho- filters (yes technically EQ), delay, chorus, whatever - thats not really what I meant- I was speaking more to 5 banding a sound that isn't quite right- probably better off fixing it earlier in the chain.
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>>81403877
you guys took too long fuck
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https://clyp.it/kh3kjqs5
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I was fucking with the rubber sounds again after accidentally making a kick too crazy and it sounds like I killed a 4th dimensional lesser familiar
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>>81405347
Cool, but rubber is still the pussy choice. If you're a real man just go bareback
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>>81403877
>>81404474
10/4
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>>81404474
what the fuck is a time signature?
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what methods do most producers use to get PC Music style synths and sounds? not talking about hardware ive had enough ppl tell me what SOPHIE uses. Synthesis techniques and experimental processing is what id like advice on
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Does anyone know how to make something similar to https://youtu.be/4yHuDKlcn-k or lo-fi stuff in general. I'm completely lost and everything I make sounds generic.
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what genre would this be considered as?

inb4 shit. [spoiler]i haven't added any other instruments yet[/spoiler]

https://clyp.it/gzcbmbhz
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>>81407078
You want advice on experimenting..?
Nigger I'm not giving you my techniques, literally just wack your shit out and look for sweet spots, that's all it is
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>>81407078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8M780YFnDA
I found this to be a good tutorial for the absolute basics.
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>>81402896
Omnisphere no contest.
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>>81407456
get a cheap cassette recorder and feed somber sounds in and back out of it.

https://clyp.it/42krglu3
i have a few disparate parts in this song. any ideas on how to smooth it out? specifically @ 1:28.
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>>81401610
design some sound
pick a scale to write in and make a chord prog
have a track to reference in the same style you enjoy writing in.
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>>81408413
all of my chord progressions end up sounding like shit
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>>81408521
just take the progressioin from one of your favorite songs literally everyone does this
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>>81408521
what are you trying to make, dude. maybe try downloading a placeholder sample for inspiration.
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>>81408413
i'm who you replied to and that's exactly what i did
on days where i initially set out to write a song and i can't get anything good within an hour the next step is to pick a song from a style i've been vibing with to copy, and if that doesn't work it's just sound design for the day lol

still got work done but it's so fucking frustrating man. in the wrong mental state it makes me wanna :(((((
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>>81408636
yeah, i feel you. i hardly ever write sober anymore, try smoking weed or going for a walk.
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>>81407893
this is honestly embarrassing

the only remotely interesting thing part of that that people would want to learn about was the snare, and he used samples because he obviously can't into sound design
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how do I stop my bassline from making my song sound sad?
I'm in G Major ffs.
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>>81409029
just make it more rhythmic in a fun way.
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my music is shit and it will never be good
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>>81407078
I had a listen to this before but I'm giving it another check.

Okay:

Set aside time for making presets on synths you've read the manual for and build a bank of your own distinctive sounds. Have a highly tweakable keysampler like Kontakt that you know like the back of your hand.

Set the latency to low so you can jam on your keyboard without a delay and get an interesting hook from your synth or drop the sustain part of a vocal sample with a x-faded loop so it's like a synth sound with a human voice into the keysampler and play a mono legato hook that's nice and annoying and down with the yoof.

Have a sample library full of sounds you like and sounds you've made, find a way to constantly sample your own fucking around with hardware or vsts on the fly so you have a big bank of cutting room floor samples and not just generic vengeance shit.

Make a first pass track that's like a template where you make a template with that earwormy synth or mono sampler hook and use your intuition and knowledge of processors and effects (this takes years and autism) to make it sound really good. When you pick your drums and percussion you have to listen to the hook you've started with and ask yourself if it synergizes to pick the right one. Layer your kicks and snares so its a lowpassed 909 making the sub, an acoustic kick broadly bandpassed, the VA with the snappiest envelope you can find zapping to give the click of the kick hipassed. All three layers must be perfectly tuned to the key of the song (this is complicated by pitch envelopes because the perceived pitch sometimes falls halfway through the modulation depth, which sometimes you also put on the acoustic kick for a meaty slap) and to each other and phase checked. Every time you add an effect you have to level match on the PPM/dBFS meter and hit the on/off switch really fast with your eyes closed and pick which is better because otherwise if you add something and it's louder your brain just thinks its better
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>>81409407
this applies to literally so many genres what the fuck
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>>81408521
>>81408558
This, you can't copyright chord progressions :)
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>>81409407
Then you need to find an acoustic snare that synergizes with the rest of the stuff and then maybe the tail of 909 snare or the snap of an 808 layered with that. That's just stock tactics. You can add someone kicking a soccer ball reversed through the impulse response of a toilet to the kick or a surface to air missile being fired timestretched really fast to the snare but it has to sound good not just that you did this crazy thing because it will just sound like a woomph and no one knows or cares how it was made.

Then you need to intuitively know how to EQ these sounds (use reference tracks often and take rests because your hearing gets psychologically fucked up from tweaking surgically) because they're not band sounds where you know to boost 800hz to get a growl out of a fender p-bass or whatever. Know what your go-to EQ is for x kind of sound and actually know what the device is doing to the audio because it might be an analog emulation like a 1176 where the attack and release are reversed knobs or a pultec EQP has a boost and atten function where the numbers lie about what it's doing. Read all the manuals and then read forum posts about the VST that tells you stuff that isn't in the manual. Read about what song this thing was used on, what sounds its capable of and what tricks there are to it. Reverse engineer presets.

So you add loads of processors and effects and you're level matching to make sure it's actually improving the sound, know what echo emu to use for this kind of sound, know what reverb to go to for this kind of sound and how pre-delay and diffusion works and what algorithm is what and know what to reach for and you keep adding ideas until you have to increase the latency to get extra CPU add more shit burn yourself out and the CPU is at 80%. You now have a piece of shit 'beat' youve made. Bounce each individual stem off and make a new project and put it into a sampler, slice it up and go to town with effects all over again.
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>>81409481
isn't that basically the ed sheeran court case?
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>>81409610
Maximize your RMS with low ratio low threshold fastish attack long release parallel compression on good quality digital compressors for sustained audio (vox, strings etc) make sure it's transparent as this is just to get more headroom to get it as loud as possible and use high ratio high threshold compression to tame the spikiness of transients on more percussive sounds, compare 'color' compressors for this job but sometimes you don't want to square off the transients on percussive sounds so much so do the former transparent compression method.

Be very purposeful in where you apply effects and where it sits in the frequency spectrum, don't solo when you tweak a sound, tweak a processor and listen to the rest of the song and not just the track its effecting.

SOPHIE is very clean sounding but not in the way you get from presets and stock sounds. I hear a lot of per-zone sampler mangling, pitch envelopes and tailor tweaked looping effects where the loop length is being modulated by an envelope or LFO and lots of different reverbs per sound which means they're committing to a tweaked reverb setting meant for that sample, bouncing it and bring it back into the sampler. You can't use 500 different reverbs in a project so you can confirm that resampling is key here. There's different saturators and exciters used per sound bringing out overtones and making it sound like it cuts through psychoacoustically but like it's switching thru different settings and devices per sound which gives a disorientating effect. Yet again that's resampling. All evidence points towards purposeful tweaking of effects so it fits with the rest of the sounds and commitment to resampling.

>>81409452
The point is you can't drag and drop sample pack shit in because it has to be tailor made from the ground up for the powerful sound where it's homogenized because you've carved each sound so it's meant for the others not just frequency-carving wise but emotionally.
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>>81409881
thank you so much for the reply, this definitely gives me a direction to start going in
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late night bump
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>>81410344
bump
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https://clyp.it/0x2dekwu?token=82c47a6ee8a66b6231b40c2a9d37953b

critique, mates?
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>>81410523
>>81410523
https://clyp.it/c24lugdv?token=1d254de1cf9f2ca54830ac8220b99be1

and this?
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I very badly need to mix this, but what do you think so far?

https://clyp.it/5m2r2g3p
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>>81410733
>https://clyp.it/5m2r2g3p
what did you use for that brass sound in the intro
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>>81410733
>song for snoopy
tight
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Goodnight /prod/

Just did Guitar on a book-bap ish beat today with more sound design after. These slow stretches suck so much it makes me feel like no matter how hard I try something will get in the way mentally :/

Hopefully we can push through tomorrow though! (;
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>>81410733
>soundtrack to the start of a bad acid trip

anyway this is my first try at making some trancy 140 bpmish electronic stuff. nothings mixed. will probably just give it out as a freebie if i finish it.
https://clyp.it/vu00cppf
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>>81411006
>https://clyp.it/vu00cppf
switching between bass presets halfway through your sample seemed pretty random. other than that it sounds fine.
me:
>>81410523
>>81410546
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>>81389211
the drums in the background aren't in sync with the piano
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>>81409351
we're all gonna make it
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>>81411438
what's the point of spamming this?
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Rough draft resulting from a long jam. Unmixed, some stuff still pretty dry and lacking some gel as a whole. But I'm enjoying the concept, the sounds that already have some work and the groove pretty much and would like to know what you guys think before I dive into it again.
The last seconds there are an indication of where the track should be going now.
https://clyp.it/4dant1ti
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>>81402498
Composition isn't related to producing though honestly but you can learn what cadences/chord progressions are deeply. One of practical way to do this is by playing/copying jazz/animu songs. Cadences/movements are really practical to learn how to make interesting progression or melody
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I am the best producer on the forums

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83oo1zKARRc
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>it's another anon gets 1 play a week episode
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>>81389154
Where do you get your VSTs from?
I'm in a need of a good synth, and only have Nexus which is crap, and isn't even a synthesizer.
Serum looks awesome, but I can't find it anywhere , it's just Mac versions.
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>>81412611
Audioz, audionews, and rutracker.
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how the fuck do i make samples be right
when i put a drum on it sounds like it moves every next bar
why
why
why
what do i need to do
i have so many samples that sounded good but cant use because they don't time properly or im a retard
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>>81412611
I do not know what a VSTi is shithead
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>>81412653
I really don't get your question

If youre talking about drum loops then the answer is that you need to sync the tempo of your project to the loop or vice versa.

In Ableton this is usually done for you automatically as far as warping your loop to the master tempo

If you mean drum samples they really shouldnt be shifting unless you have some weird groove or shuffle applied but even then it should be consistent, most grooves are on a one bar cycle
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>>81412449
>shitty rap song
Ok
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>>81412653
What daw
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>>81412693
Virtual synthesizer
I.e. Massive, serum, razor, etc>>81412693
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>>81412924
It’s not a rap song
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>>81412699
the beat sounds off, so for example it will 'line up' with the sample for one bar but the next it will sound off or early/late

>>81412959
fl 12
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also while we're here. fl 12 crashes for me occasionally and just goes 'not responding', i've tried looking for a fix but none work. what do?
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>>81412972
No, I want brass/winds sounds
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>>81412976
I dig your dubstep drums and vibrato lead, but Your arrangement and mix could use some help. the vocals sit too low under your reese bass and other things happening. You show promise, but your ego is probably too big to take some critique and get better.
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>>81413053
Kontakt libraries should do the trick. You can get the demo version and a bunch of free libraries
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https://clyp.it/c2dhgh3i
https://clyp.it/2rfgp0cj

my songs are too repetitive imo
also im bad at writing melodies
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>>81413058
I didn’t record the vocals. I lost all my beats and I am scavenging the reminents from the net. This song is 6 years old. I have no equipment right now.

Thanks for checking me out
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>>81413147
https://clyp.it/0x2dekwu?token=82c47a6ee8a66b6231b40c2a9d37953b

check me out here. Possibly critique from the best producer on the forum?
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>>81413319
It’s sounds generic because it is too light. I am not the best mixer but I do know how to get the most out my kick. The melody sounds cliche as well. Some of your builds are anticlimactic or are unanticipated. It’s good but you need a thicker kick.
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I have a full song and need to extract the vocals from it.
I know about using the instrumental, but that's often not available, and when it is, it often doesn't work well.
Are there other techniques or programs I could use?
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>>81413454
Yeah, phase cancellation is usually the best course of action.

Although it depends on the kind of vocals, the kind of instrumental, and what you want to do with it.

If you want to extract the entire vocal track to make a "conventional" remix or sampling, you either need a mastered instrumental version, or hope it's a repetitive enough song that you can take vocal-less pieces from here and there and splice them together to make an instrumental from the release version.
In my experience it's pretty rare to find those, so your mileage may vary.
You can also try to extract it by messing with the release version so it cancels out well, but it's pretty complicated and time consuming, and often yields disappointing results.

Another program you can try using is iZotope RX, but unless the song is very sparse, youre probably not going to get good results.

If you just need the vocals for some light sampling (i.e. to make adlibs, backing sounds here and there, a single phrase to use once, etc) you can do it the hip-hop way and find the parts with the least instruments playing with the vocals (or with instruments that take different frequencies) and sample those, then EQ out the unwanted instruments.
If you're lucky the remaining frequencies that you can't remove will be unnoticeable in the mix, but you can still reduce this problem by sampling similar-sounding parts (to those you can still hear with the vocals) from the released version and sprinkle them around your track, so even if you still hear them they will sound as part of the track.

Usually though, you're better off just trying to Google the already isolated vocal track (if you're lucky you might even find the studio stem), and if you don't find it, maybe try to look for acapellas that are similar or can replace it somehow.
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>>81413127
>https://clyp.it/c2dhgh3i

just look at that waveform bro... your song shoots its load halfway in, then the second half is just another long build up, but not even the climax. also, just look at (most) pop songs, you should be in the chorus after like 16 measures or less, then repeat that twice except the third time is your climax
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>>81413426
Thank you, although its not the best example of my work.
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>>81413641
Show me your best. I’ll listen to it
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>>81413600
Thanks a lot Anon
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>>81413600
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/74315652/#74350403
Fucking kek I knew that shit looked familiar
Out of all the posts you could've copypasted, you had to choose that faggot's.
Good job.
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>>81413775
https://soundcloud.com/user-395609071/liquid-year-x-krussi-club-eden
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>>81413877
Well, I had to talk about phase cancellation
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is it a problem in general and in ableton in particular to change the samplerate mid project? i accidentally recorded and worked in 44.1 from the start, now i'm gonna change it to 48khz - is there even a point to it?
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>>81414516
Depends on the samples you've used inside the project (including the resampling you did, etc), but if you have to ask, you don't need to worry about it.
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>>81414516
you cant change it mid project and there is no real point in doing it
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>>81413011
>the beat sounds off, so for example it will 'line up' with the sample for one bar but the next it will sound off or early/late
Do you know the tempo of your sample? I've never used FL but if it has some kind of sample editor or something you should be able to see the tempo the DAW thinks it is.

Generally you need to either warp your sample to match your master or change your master to meet the tempo of your sample.

A dirty way to do this is to just set a one bar loop, start your sample on beat one, then change the tempo of your project until it loops correctly. Now your master is the same as the tempo that your sample is and it should loop correctly.

If you want your sample to match the rest of your project you need to do something called timestretching or warping. The dirtiest form of this simply conforms the loop to whatever length so lets say one bar. In Reason for example I'd just shift+drag to one bar and my sample will last exactly one bar.

This might give you artifacts if your master is really far from your sample tempo. Remember that half of BPM is the same for this purpose so 70BPM = 140BPM for warping samples. You can drop a 70BPM sample into a 140BPM project without issue and so on with other tempos. So 90BPM=180BPM 80=160

I'm still just guessing at what your problem is though
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Why is it when I read a 500 page manual where the information is completely alien I zoom through it but if it's a 40 page manual with big letters where every second thing is a concept I already know I can't fucking finish it and I get distracted
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>>81414689
Yeah, there is a detect tempo option, however if I've edited the sample and/or slowed it a lot, it's not accurate I don't think, and not only that, if I'm working at X tempo and the sample is way slower... so like you say it's a matter of matching them, yeah. I just didn't know how to do it accurately and still don't, really. But I will look now to see what is what. I did figure it was BPM and occasionally went through and manually put each in the correct time but it took so long and was annoying considering my FL crashes occasionally. I think honestly it might be that I use long samples and not short easy to cut/manage clips that can be just dragged to fit as you say.

Will look into how to do it properly, thanks.
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>>81414912
autism
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>>81408840
I'm not gonna act like I know anything about FM synthesis, but that lat least lets you cheat it out without having to know the crazy shit
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>>81415053
Everyone tells me I have autism on the internet

It's actually that I've come full circle from watching reviewbrah videos and thinking about the state of the world and thinking, this autism as an insult thing (which I started btw) is the result of people's feelings of claustrophobia when someone hones in on small details and does not employ the lubricant of irony and patter to keep two people comfortable when talking about utilitarian and unfunny subjects that don't give you a window to peacock abundance and character. I'm 39 years old and I was asking my mother to look at google earth to test this theory and just asking her what she thought about little details. I stopped hovering at a steeple and asked her about the stained glass windows and asked her why do they make them that way and she made an awkward smile and said I don't know I'll have to google it! Then I moved the cursor further along the area but then doubled back to the steeple and asked her what she thought of stained glass windows and she said I don't know what you expect me to say. She started to perspire and look at her watch. I asked her if she would read the wikipedia article on stained glass windows with me and she said maybe another time and said she had to go to store.

I don't have autism (btw I did an online test {proving it}).
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>>81414531
>>81414548
well i DID change it mid project. i realize the stuff i recorded in 44.1 won't magically change into 48, but will there be weird sound issues when bouncing when there's stuff thats 44.1 combined with stuff thats 48? its basically just a very gentle bitcrusher effect on the 44.1 samples, am i correct?
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>>81415325
pretending you are more autistic than you are doesn't make you any less autistic...
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>>81415502
Fake it 'til you make it
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>>81415502
But what is autism!
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It's been so long
https://clyp.it/gy2huahz
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>>81414920
yes chopping samples makes this easier to do.

Chopping is when you take a sample and divide it into pieces either based on set time intervals or based on transients if that's available in your DAW (99% that it is in every DAW).

Transients are basically the highest dynamic point in the wave form, think the moment that a drum hit hits or the moment that a note starts to play.

Look up "MPC style chopping in FL" on youtube and there should be guides
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>>81415471
no
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>>81415594

Remember Kids:

Artist is only one letter away from Autist.

*sound of happy children*
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>>81415674
very helpful. then what?
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>>81415660
I've seen that, yeah yeah, probably watched same video. I did that instinctively anyway just from trial and error though.
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Anyone happen to use Reason and have the new drum machine (Umph)?

Is there really no way to use one of the channels to sidechain without disconnecting it from the mixer?

Kong can do this ez.

I'm just using a simple sampler with a kick as a sidechain ghost with a copy of my midi but this is so tedious when with Kong which is fucking ancient it was just standard to have a bus out.

>inb4 no one uses Reason loser
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>>81415088
The whole point of this type of music is doing the crazy shit yourself. That's crossing the line into where using samples is legit cheating
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thanks for bumping anon
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How shitty does this MIDI sequence sound? Any tips on how to make it sound less awful? I used mainly Synful Orchestra.
https://clyp.it/cflowqbh
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>>81410947
brass? I used a cello in the intro, then I put distortion and a vocoder on it. I guess it doesn't sound kind of brassy.

>>81410964
thank you, I didn't even realize I had uploaded that on there.
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>>81412699
Cut your drums and sequence them manually.
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>>81411006
>>soundtrack to the start of a bad acid trip
thank you, I was trying to make something kind of Travis Scott-y
I'm not a fan of trance but what you did here is cool, I just learned how to arrange things so I appreciate any subtle change within a song
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>>81409351
no anon just be intouch with ur feeliings more
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Looking for feedback on these two WIPs

"atomic"
https://instaud.io/2oS1

"move"
https://instaud.io/2qaJ

"microplane"
https://instaud.io/2qaK

obviously these still have a lot of work left but looking to see if anyone digs them / has feedback etc
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POST BEST ABLETON SKINS

I NEED TO MIX THINGS UP TO GIT OUTTA THIS RUT
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>>81418847
maybe when i try to channel arca that would help

fuck i spent to long on live 8 unwittingly cucking myself
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What's the best laptop for producing? Should I get a Razer?
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>>81418847
holy shit lmfao

I, at the same time, hate it and love it.

9/10
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>>81418923
Just get the best bang for your buck don't just go for a brand.

>google
>Best Value Laptop for "Insert Budget Here" and below
>find a list from the least clickbaity website you find, maybe pcmag or similar
>heres the hard part: use your judgement
>google "brand name price history amazon"
>see if the price on amazon right now is the lowest and decide if you wanna wait for a sale

There ya go I just taught you how to buy a computer for literally any general purpose.
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>>81419019
just to add in case your hand needs to be held every step of the way, for production you wanna spend $500 or more

>SSD not HDD
>8GB RAM or more
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>>81419019
>>81419167
I have pretty bad judgment last time I got a new laptop I chose an ASUS
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>>81419207
>ASUS
pls explain and make me feel bad now
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>>81419207
If you had followed the steps I told you the brand wouldn't matter. People review this shit for a living you know
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>>81420370
god i knew exactly who this was as soon as i heard the noise floor lmao. did you send back your interface and you're back to the laptop mic?

it still sounds like you're trying to have a voice you don't have here honestly. sing like yourself or learn to force air against your throat after years of smoking nightly drinking and daily vomiting and you'll achieve that sound
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Yo when youre labeling tracks by color and youre trying to randomly select a different color, does anyone else literally every single time pick the same color twice?

I may be high as fuck but if it's not just my autism then this may be some kind of small proof that randomness in human decision making is impossible and shit.
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>>81420811
i leave everything grey
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>>81415891
i'm not even the guy ur responding to but ur giving me cancer
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>>81407691
anybody?
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>>81407691
>>81421662
aimless midi trash senpai
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>>81421648
Don't care. Wheres your music?
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>>81421852
on my soundcloud lmao
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>>81421763
this is a production thread

it doesn't sound like you did any actual production my dude
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>>81422066
YAH? ITS PAUL FROM HIGH SCHOOL. WOW, LOOK AT YOU ALL GROWN UP. I REMEMBER WE USED TO GIVE U A HARD TIME IN CLASS. REMEMBER THAT GIRL YOU USED TO LIKE, THE ONE YOU HAD A CRUSH ON? YEAH? WELL WE'RE MARRIED NOW. JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU KNOW
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>>81422086
>clyp isnt typical edm trash or nigshit
>lol its shit
t. sub-60 iq
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>>81422177
>clyp is just a dynamic-less piano with awful timbre playing grade school tier noodlings
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>>81420811
I am pretty meticulous about my color selection. theres only a handful of good ones in ableton that I can use, it gets difficult to choose them after ive made like 10 tracks
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>>81422235
[spoiler]dick[/spoiler]
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>>81420811
I do that after and always fuck it up. It looks so nice in the tutorial projects and mine looks all fucked different shades and shit
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>>81422272
judging from the last two images you posted i think it's pretty safe to say that you're an enormous fag
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is there a daw that runs well on windows.
fl runs like shit. regardless of decent hardware
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https://clyp.it/3qgc23nt

any advice on how i can fill out this track? and are there any software that will let you apply the same pitch to vocal samples that vary in length
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https://youtu.be/0B6vdCAz3Dk
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i learned how to improve my room's sound with absorption panels, but how to prevent the sound from coming out of it, so i can make loud noise?
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https://soundcloud.com/ravallo-strygzone/good-time-under-the-sulfuric-acid

check it out and give mad feedback please and thanks lol
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FL studio is crashing for no reason. It literally crashed after I pressed stop on pic related, and what the fuck is it doing in pic related?
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>>81424496
That's what you get for pirating :)
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All these kids complaining about their little Fruit Loops ROFL
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chads use cubase
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>>81424644
I paid for ableton, and plenty of other audio software. I would not pay for this shit.

but is that what happened? is there something wrong with the registry?
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>>81424842
Every pirated version of FL I've had has had that issue. The real version does not. Feel free to keep using it, but you're not going to get rid of those issues
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>>81396716

I like it, but it's a bit thin sounding in poly mode. I want something with that much control, but sounds more like the monotribe.
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does internet affect actual daw performance? (not your own obvs)
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>>81426115
ya I disable mine while producing
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>>81426115
yes some software has bullshit like send statictics that you need to disable native instruments like to do this
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https://clyp.it/pexcjsuz

Thoughts on this?
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Bump idk
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>>81426978
sounds great
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I need your help goys.

I did a remix to some song I found on those remix sites, but I ended up having 2 ideas I like equally. I need your rational minds to pick which one is the one I should go with?

https://clyp.it/ldoao5tb
or
https://clyp.it/rzg3tmcj

https://www.strawpoll.me/16064597 vote plz
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>>81428395
your gay xD
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How do you swing your 4 on the floor beats?

I know some of the mpc grooves in ableton work for that housey stuff but I don't listen to it enough to really "get" the groove get
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Prod'd this today:

https://clyp.it/id0vsq33

Its for a short film trailer. The vocal part was supplied.
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>>81425131
>Every pirated version of FL I've had has had that issue
no sir. I've been pirating FL since it was Fruityloops 3.5 and never encountered that issue.

>>81424496
Try a different version. go 2 rutracker.
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>>81428264
Are you serious?
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>>81429608
Lmao of course not
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>>81424496
Stop using the 64bit version

It's a memory usage issue. I didn't start crashing with FL until I started using the 64bit exe.
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>>81426978
>>81429664
Lacks distortion
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>>81429702
on what, the drums?
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>>81429712
On everything. If you want to have music with no dynamic, no flow and no groove, might as well just mangle everything and call it noise.

>>81429509
That growl sound is too dynamic, the whole coming and going thing is too exaggerated and makes it sound hysterical, not tense or intense, which is what I imagine you were going for. Make it more firm, and integrate it as a constant part of the music, not running around screaming like an insane person. Also, don't clip it like that. Apply parallel compression and bit-crushing for harshness, or better yet layer with a square wavey sound or something full like that. The clipping just doesn't sound part of the whole and makes no sense. And drums are way too dry.
The concept you made around the vocals is promising, but you have to craft those sounds way more. Use a reference track similar to what you're going for, if you're unsure how to make them more interesting.
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>>81429826
I'm kind of new to producing, link me some good tutorials for learning this dynamic/groove stuff.
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>>81429868
https://libgen.pw/download/book/5a1f04863a044650f5fec141
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>>81429826
>That growl sound is too dynamic, the whole coming and going thing is too exaggerated
Ah, it lines up with some flashbacks in the film. The growl is introduced when we see the flashback, and pulled back when we cut to the present.

>running around screaming like an insane person
that was kinda part of the brief:
>"Sound cuts out and we transition to folk song as clip gets psychological.
Escalation throughout psychological moments, both in terms of folk song and dissonant/unsettling/tense sounds."

I have compression and layers of distortion on the bass (which is a simple 3x osc sine wave), there is no clipping, but rather I duck the volume down in the non-flashback sections.

>drums are way too dry.
I'm not sure if adding slight reverb will really add that much, there is already reverb on the samples

>Use a reference track similar to what you're going for
Eh would require me to dig through a bunch of trailers at random hoping something is similar, I'm kinda working from scratch on this one.
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What's the best daw to use to mix and master rock?
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>>81429907
Ok, man. It sounds pretty amateurish, but if those are your choices, enjoy yourself.

>there is no clipping
>0:19
You're overfeeding your compressor then
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>>81429919
Protools.

It is the industry standard for recording, mixing and producing bands
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>>81429958
Thank you. Is there a specific version I should get?
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>>81429949
>0:19
The main sound you hear there is a Dark Matter patch. The bass growl is introduced at the same time, but at a low dynamic. There is no compressor on the Dark Matter, and no compressor on the main output either (I usually run a very light compressor as a leveler on the main out, but didn't feel like I needed to this time).

The Dark Matter volume is cut back over the next few seconds, but I don't think that's what you're referring to.

I think you're just feeling that dark matter sample is a bit too compressed for your liking - lots of them are pretty heavy and clippy, I haven't actually touched the patch.

Here's that section without the Dark Matter:
https://clyp.it/jtmjwqhd

And here's the Dark Matter patch on its own in the same section:
https://clyp.it/1nztz5i1

The clicks at the start of those tracks should be ignored
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>>81429971
The latest.

Be warned it is very expensive and is professional-grade software. You might be better off with something like Logic Pro or Cubase if you just want to fool around.
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>>81430071
Ok, it's your patch, but it is clipped on the original. You do understand the concept of inter-plugin clipping, no?
What I'm saying about it is not a matter of taste though, I love distorted, harsh sounds. But in there it's not sitting with the rest at all. I don't mean because the vocals are kind of sweet and then you introduce harsh intrusions. Ok, that's contrast. But the way this thing is sounding is not creating a contrast, it's just separated and not musical. Maybe if you put a slight delay on it so it's more blurred and it doesn't go out so suddenly, it might get some gel with the rest.
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>>81430161
fair enough, thanks for the feedback, I'll look into it
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What's a good general purpose microphone? Would mostly be used for recording a guitar amp. I would prefer USB as I'm too broke for an interface at the moment
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>>81429459
Programming your hats and cymbals in a piano roll makes things a hell of a lot easier. I've found if you work with things in 16ths and play around with the note velocity and doubles/triplets until you get what you're looking for
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>>81429694
that's definitely it, I just recently started using 64 bit after 32 bit couldn't handle memory

do you use a bridge?
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>>81420811
>picking colors
>naming channels
not gonna make it.

>>81429919
garage band unironically

>>81430284
sm57
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Goodnight /prod/

Didn't get to produce because family today I'm v :(((((

Meh, hopefully tomorrow will be good guys (:
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>>81431003
Night, anon!! I practiced vocals all day, and I think I really improved. Also wrote my first keys track, though it's just a combination of two other songs I wrote a long time ago
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>>81430899
I don't have a Mac unfortunately




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