Buttigieg was in attendance for the groundbreaking of Las Vegas’s BRT. Do you think it will actually significantly change Las Vegas to be more transit- and pedestrian-friendly?https://urbanland.uli.org/development-and-construction/las-vegas-betting-on-bus-rapid-transit-to-spur-development-along-key-corridors
They had guided busses in my city they didn't last long and now they're removing the lanes completely
what about the boring t*sla loop?
>>2015824idk but I was in reno a couple of years ago and I was impressed by how shitty the bus system was considering the climate is pretty good for being a #walkable meme city. I don't really get nevada, what is it for? obviously le gambling maymay but why did god put it on earth?
>>2015824>hydrogenFUCKING HELL CAN THESE RETARDED FUCKING CUNTS JUST PULL OUT A FUCKING NAPKIN, PEN, AND CALCULATOR? Why are millions of dollars wasted before ONE PERSON does literal napkin math? God politicians are such retarded fucking vermin.In the words of Sam Kinison: YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! You understand that you LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT! Put some fucking solar panels on your fucking buildings, and fill your fucking batteries, and use them to drive a fucking motor. CRETINS! Fucking fetal alcohol syndrome retards.AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY! Green energy is supposed to save money in the long run, but they've figured out a way to fuck it up. Those clever fucking elected LAWYERS, who know everything, found a way.
>>2015963Isn't nevada loaded with solar though? I know california is
>>2015966I'm not suggesting it isn't, I'm laying out how obvious and simple the superior option is. You can fuel a BEV, direct from source, with literally zero moving parts...and yet some galaxy brain managed to sidestep all those benefits by deciding it wasn't Rube Goldberg enough."sustainable" is the buzzword they repeat, while every financial indicator screams "WILL NOT SUSTAIN" in their faces, as they sign away public money.From the RTC site:>Hydrogen refueling is quick and convenient as compared to standard electric vehicles, ensuring minimal downtime for the bus and keeping our system running smoothly.For the price they're paying they could finance an extra battery bus. They're worried about how long it takes to fuel 7 buses, it never occurred to them that they could have had 8...these people have shit for brains.>Hydrogen is the most naturally abundant element and combined with fuel cell technology. It is more powerful and energy efficient than traditional fossil fuels.>Hydrogen is the most naturally abundant elementThey say this like you can just walk outside and collect it, like dirt. These people only think in language, they don't have spatial or mathematic intuition. They're the same people who think that if the population increases we'll run out of fresh water. If your city/county has an ordinance against collecting rainwater (a policy which trends with areas of low rainfall), one of these idiots wrote it.
>>2016133Some people like to breed mosquitos with left out buckets, that's probably why those laws exist
>>2016133theoretically they could make hydrogen from solar given an abundant source of water
>>2016143Yes...but why? There is no answer to the "why". Answering "how" is not a good enough reason to do something.Putting it simply in BOTH CASES you begin with photons, and you finish with a charged battery. A fuel cell doesn't drive the motor in a HFC, a battery does. HFC vehicles have a battery in them. SAME beginning, SAME destination.With BEVs you just go straight from photons to electricity. All you need is an inverter and a charge controller. You're there. Done. Supply chain complete.With HFCs you take that chain, and IN ADDITION you take a meandering path through several electrochemical processes, at considerable expense and complexity, for a LOWER output. You don't even make gains, you make losses by doing this.And EVERYTHING you need for the BEV is also needed for HFCs. They rely on the same, AND ADDITIONAL infrastructure. Hydrogen is not hedging against power grid failure, it just adds another mutually-fatal supply chain on top of the existing one.>>2016140No, they exist because retarded people who believe in solutions like hydrogen buses think that collecting water is stealing a public resource. In Nevada for instance, you need a "water right" to legally catch rainwater, and in many places the homeowner doesn't own this right.So no, people can get elected into office without understanding that once a rainwater catchment is full, it overflows and has literally zero impact on runoff. They're that stupid. They can't conceptualize a tap running into a full glass. They write laws proving they don't understand it.
Doesn’t really matter what powers the bus, it can be diesel for all I care. It’s still a massive improvement to have a BRT network and build TOD around it.
>>2015844Exactly! When is the loop supposed to go Hyper? Now that they Fucking have the driving pattern and calculations figured out they can just make them go faster and faster and the loop goes hyper!
I HATE HYDROGENI HATE HYDROGEN
>>2015963Yeah but if you choose to live in a desert, the only valid way is oil. Anything else is hypocrisy. Using solar panels? Enjoy your toxic substances that generate electricity.
>>2016213People will get feces smeared on their faces by politicians and come back for seconds
This is a bigger deal than some people think. Las Vegas is extremely sprawled but it’s a growing city so they need to improve transit. Also combined with the high-speed rail under construction this will effect quite a big change there.To go from pic related to building BRT and high speed rail is a sea change for Vegas.
>>2016372BRT is essentially free thanks to federal grants and subsidies, no city would refuse it. That said it's going to be underutilized because no one wants to wait on and ride buses
>>2016291> Enjoy your toxic substances that generate electricityAre you retarded? PV cells have at most tiny ass amounts of Cadmium locked in the silicon, the same amount as most circuit boards. The real criticism of PV is the amount of land they take up (Large rooftops mitigate this but don’t use it) and the amount of water it takes to clean them. Electric city buses are just fine for a desert city like Vegas
>>2016372Imagine you go home shitfaced, try to enter the wrong house & then get shot by some paranoid homeowner
>>2016439unless you're a drone and always fly at 300ft when shitfaced you're unlikely to confuse your house for someone else's but you'd know that if you ever lived anywhere other than your cuck commieblock
>>2015963Panels need cooling and cleaning, this usually means a shitton of waterNo can do in arizona, the aquifers and reservoirs are already massively overdrawnPanels and turbines en-masse are 50% a fucking green lobby scam, 30% an idealist's dream, and 20% viable
>>2016477retvrn to tradition, abandon unrecyclable composite blades
>>2016477Shut the fuck up lmao. Their payback period is about 8 years in most places, and they last for 25 years.Not sure what planet you're on, but on Earth panels are air cooled.
>>2015871>I don't really get nevada, what is it for? obviously le gambling maymay but why did god put it on earth?It should be a barely populated state that only contains miners and native tribes, somewhat like Alaska, but a Jewish mobster thought it would be funny to put a monument to man's hubris in the corner of the state, and the rest is history.
>>2016404No, I'm American.Anything that does not use oil is commie scam.
>>2016514Ok but how to explain reno then?
>>2016557train stop
>>2016559Actually I looked it up it's an overgrown toll booth lmao
Since Reno was mentioned I feel it's important to note that Reno is better than Vegas in every way, and will probably have functional, reliable mass transit before Vegas too. NVDOT has studied commuter rail there a few times, it probably wouldn't work but helps the state figure out the cost of a proper Capitol Corridor extension or equivalent. A modern Donner Pass Tunnel was needed a century ago, eventually California will just build it and Reno will join the Sacramento Metro Area.https://www.pctpa.net/rail-capitol-corridor>In 2023, Caltrans completed a Project Study Report (PSR) that studied the feasibility of expanded passenger rail service to Reno and outlined necessary station improvements. This was supplemented by a First/Last Mile Analysis Report prepared by PCTPA that looked at current and future first/last mile connection needs at seven station sites along the corridor. Planning for expanded passenger rail service to Reno continues with CCJPA and partner agencies along the I-80 corridor in Placer, Nevada, and Washoe Counties. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/transportation/article267915022.htmlEventually, Caltrans and Nevada will work something out to get reliable daily train service between Reno and Sac.
>>2016586>Eventually, Caltrans and Nevada will work something out to get reliable daily train service between Reno and Sac.Nope
>>2016597why not? The only thing stopping it is union pacific, who can be bought off
>>2016636Because LA, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and to a lesser extent San Diego exist and dwarf Reno and Sac in size. That's where the money will be spent on rail. No one cares about a passenger train between Sac and Reno
>>2016372Must be depressing seeing all those detached houses without a single yard cause they’re in the desert.
>>2016780>Transportation?
> Do you think it will actually significantly change Las Vegas to be more transit- and pedestrian-friendly?Eh it’s a growing city, tons of people moving there from California . If they get it together and do some upzoning then yes they’ll get pretty dense.
>>2016801You should post the press releases from developers if they do
https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/luxury-homes/las-vegas-condos-demand-homebuyers-1fcab79e
this is the expansion
>>2015963It sounds like you just don’t like busses and you’re mad that a city implemented a nice BRT.
>>2018862No it doesn't
>>2017022wouldn't an airport be better served with a rail connection? BRT is hard to scale up with growth unless you run them every 30 seconds or something
>>2018882Obviously rail is better than BRT but it’s way more expensive and takes longer to build. BRT’s still a massive improvement over the status quo.
>>2018948i guess that's to be expected from a country that builds houses out of paper instead of brick
>>2019018What does that have to do with transportation?
>>2019018I guess you can spin a massive improvement sound negative if you scrape the bottom of the barrel for negative things to say. Personally I’m glad they’re building BRT, should help their traffic issues.
>>2016653Sac's the capitol though so it could be a prestige thing
>>2020919"Prestige"? What is that in normal fucking english?
>>2015844Expanding. I think the current design is 51 stations along a 40 mile loop
>>2020926Currently ~10.58M of tunnels built connecting various stations. And a boring machine working near the airport to connect a few more.
>>2020926And full built out plans are now 93 stations
>>2020927And btw, the current hangup over airport tunnel connection is regulatory approval process being slow.
