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>"You gotta pay your bills," said the former president notorious for not paying his own bills.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447

Former President Donald Trump delivered an alarming message to U.S. allies during a Saturday rally where he outlined a scenario in which he would “encourage” Russia to “do whatever the hell they want” to other NATO members.

Speaking to a crowd in Conway, South Carolina, Trump told a story that cast himself as a tough-talking negotiator.

“NATO was busted until I came along,” he began. “I said, ‘Everybody’s going to pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”

He rehashed the story a few moments later.

“One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well sir, if we don’t pay and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’ I said, ‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’ He said, ‘Yes, let’s say that happened.’ No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want,” Trump said.

“You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills,” he added.

The audience cheered loudly for the former president, who is notorious for failing to pay bills on the campaign trail and in his past business endeavors.

It is not clear whether the scenario Trump described actually happened. Trump frequently takes credit for supposedly pressuring other NATO members into contributing more funding during the course of his first term.

But it’s a flawed claim.

As The Washington Post and other fact-checkers have noted, NATO member nations pledged to boost their funding over a period of 10 years at a 2014 summit held to address Russian aggression. Direct NATO funding has been increasing since then — although not at the pace needed to reach the goal set in 2014.
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The alliance, however, is primarily strengthened through indirect funding, which is funding that member nations spend on their own individual militaries that could be called upon to assist the group if needed. NATO’s Article 5 states that member nations must treat an attack on one as an attack on all.

As of last year, Trump would not have the power as president to unilaterally withdraw the United States from NATO.

While he has made various comments about potentially doing so in the past, Congress passed legislation in December barring any president from withdrawing the U.S. from the organization without congressional cooperation.

The move came amid ongoing efforts by a far-right faction of Republicans to cut back or stop U.S. funding to Ukraine. The Eastern European nation, which is seeking NATO membership, has been fending off a Russian takeover for nearly two years.

On Saturday, Trump suggested the $95 billion aid package to Ukraine and Israel currently making its way through the Senate should instead take the form of a loan. He successfully pressured Republicans to kill a larger aid package that would also address U.S. immigration earlier this month.
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>>1265828
>In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want,”
That's the part where he went over the line.
I had heel(bone spurs) and they hurt alot when I walked.
I had them on and for 5 yrs, be4 i discovered a cure(night boot)

So tRump really had pain, or most likely, bone spurs are hard too prove that you have(like a bad back), so he lied about it
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>>1265828
The only people who backstabbed nato were the traitors that didn't pay the required fee
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>>1265839
Lick dictator boots more
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>>1265840
I will never vote Democrat again.
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>>1265839
Making people like you seethe is worth every penny of unpaid NATO membership dues.
>>1265842
Russians can't vote.
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So Trump wants WW3? Why vote for that? Magats don't understand integrity towards allies, so it'll be justified in their brains.
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>>1265837
Dating in 80s New York was Trump's personal vietnam.
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>>1265846
Thats not what you people were crying after Nov 2016

>>1265850
>So Trump wants WW3?
Biden has brought us closer to WW3 than Trump ever did.
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>>1265852
>us
i think your favorite dictator is the one who attacked ukraine. continue gaslighting though
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>>1265852
>Biden has brought us closer to WW3 than Trump ever did.
How so? Can't wait to hear the chud headcanon version of the story.
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>>1265854
>How so?
Have you seen the state of the world?

Also we have spent the last two years listening to every leftist and Biden supporter begging Biden to bomb Russia over Ukraine.
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>>1265853
>i think your favorite dictator
Zelensky? Fuck that guy

>continue gaslighting though
How is the frontline, hohol?
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>>1265856
>yes, i am a russian shill
i hope you're indian or something, the russians don't treat their own kindly
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Even after 8 years, what Trump says can really stun you and go "did he actually say that?"
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>>1265857
>muh russians!
This is why this board needs post IDs and flags, so when my flag comes up as US and yours comes up as CA, we can laugh at your pajeet ass for thinking everyone is Russian
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>>1265859
>nafo tranny hohol! how dare you call me a shill
nigga use english then. fucking idiots, it's a shame you're dragging the internet down to your retarded level
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>>1265860
>nigga use english then.
What language do you think we're speaking in, pajeet?

> fucking idiots, it's a shame you're dragging the internet down to your retarded level
Learn to phrase your sentences like someone from the west and you'll blend in better. ESL faggot.
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>>1265862
do you think "hohol" is in the webster's dictionary you fucking faggot. if you're going to lie do it to us, not yourself
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>>1265850
Trump would have the West surrender to Russia and China.
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>>1265863
>do you think
First of all, here in the West, we capitalize the first letter of sentences.

>"hohol" is in the webster's dictionary you fucking faggot
Anybody who's spent any time on /k/ knows the word hohol. The fact that you only here hohol from Russians leads to futher beliefs that you're ESL. You're terrible at this, pajeet.

>if you're going to lie do it to us, not yourself
Speak for yourself pajeet. Practice your grammar and punctuation better, you'll never get white girls to show you bob and vagene at this rate, you stupid bloody bastard bitch fuck.
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>>1265865
>hohol is a word we use all the time on /k/
starting in 2022. when russian shills poured in and smeared their shit everywhere they could. and the only reason you're here is because you would get banned for being a retard over there, because you're an obnoxious lying shill
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>>1265866
>starting in 2022
Thats when you first started using /k/, got it.

Hohol has been used on /k/ since before Euromaidan in 2013. It's a board full of slavaboos who argue about obscure eastern block military equipment. You're so painfully not from 4chan, the schaudenfreude is delicious.

>still not capitalizing sentences
Pajeet I'm sorry I triggered you so hard. Maybe harassing white women on instagram, or posing as the IRS to collect iTunes giftcards will make you feel better?
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>>1265855
>Have you seen the state of the world?
Yes but what mental illness makes you think the state of the world is Biden's responsibility?
>we have spent the last two years listening to every leftist and Biden supporter begging Biden to bomb Russia over Ukraine.
Who is "we" and post 5 examples (protip: you can't because your headcanon isn't real)
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>>1265867
keep making fun of yourself i guess. as long as you're stuck on this dead containment board. thankfully your faggotry is easily contained and deleted on boards with actual moderation
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>>1265859
If that's true, that means you are completely brainwashed. Atleast vatniks and pajeets are getting paid to spam here.
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>>1265869
>on boards with actual moderation
Such as?
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>>1265871
/k/ for example, i'm 100% sure you've been banned there countless times even though you pretend you're welcome there
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Every single retard right wingers that's gone over to help russia has been slaughtered. Keep on going over faggots. Evil fucking scum traitors.
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>>1265859
Why do /pol/tards always try to change every other board to be more like /pol/? If you want IDs so badly gtfo and go back to /pol/.

>>1265871
If you couldn't figure out after a few minutes that half the people on this board are completely brainwashed by partisan propaganda then you're probably one of the brainwashed people.

>>1265873
Whoa there, I'm NTA, just curious what board you would say. /k/ really isn' moderated that heavily imo compared to boards like /a/ and /sp/.
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>>1265876
/k/ is inundated with russian maskirovka anytime something of theirs sinks or explodes, in those moments it is usually well moderated. but i wouldn't know much about /sp/ or anything about /a/
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>>1265868
>>1265869
>>1265870
>>1265871
>>1265873
>>1265874
>>1265876
>hohol internet defense force activated
Have a nice day Pajeet, watch out for the toilet witch!
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>>1265877
>accuses others of being shills because they say "hohol"
>uses "maskirovka" and expects everyone to know what that means
You people are terrible at blending in, goodness gracious
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>>1265878
Shouldn't you be scouring TASS for more propaganda to post instead of shitposting on a dead board?
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>>1265881
>you can't use russian words
why not, you're using english
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>>1265882
Does calling /news/ a dead board make you feel better over random anons making you cry cause they made fun of you over your poor English?

>>1265883
>cry about people using hohol because it's too obscure for westerners to use
>use maskirovka and wonder why you're getting called out
English is my first language, unlike you, pajeethohol
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>>1265885
>English is my first language
since you've lied so much in this thread already, one can only assume you're still lying
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>>1265886
>still crying

Again, you must capitalize your sentences pajeethohol, or no one will believe you and your commissar will send you to the front
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>>1265888
it must be so embarrassing being you. you get paid scraps to call people slurs that refer to you, yet nobody is convinced you're not a third world shill
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>>1265852

So Ukrainian soveriegnty doesn't matter? Typical vatnik nimrod response there.
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>>1265852

You do realize that Russia is the only country that will let Trump engage in new real estate ventures, right?
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>>1265891
>Russia has more freedom than the US
Thanks, Ivan.
I wish 4chan would block all Russian IPs.
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>>1265891
>Corrupt third world country is the only place a criminal can do business.
Interesting
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>>1265851
>Dating in 80s New York was Trump's personal vietnam
tRump's still suffering today from his war wounds.
See his syphilitic hand?
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>>1265890
>give me money or you're my enemy
Noticing some parallels here.
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>>1265944
Kinda shocked no one tried to capitalize on his bleeding hand.
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>>1265990
He would just fundraise on it by pretending to be persecuted
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>>1266024
If you persecute him more, surely he'll "pretend" less.
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>>1265828
>Be Trump
>Be tough on forcing Euros to meet NATO obligations
>[some rambling bullshit]
Literally what is the problem here?
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>>1266024
He does that anyway because of his victim complex.
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>>1266024
>>1266026
>>1266031
Your obsession with his bleeding hand will never ever not be funny.
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>>1266034
If Biden had a bleeding hand it would be all you could talk about.
Why are you covering it up?
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>>1266035
>If Biden had a bleeding hand it would be all you could talk about.
So, this is what we call "projection".
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>>1266036
Nah, it's called calling you out.
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>>1266037
>no no no everyone behaves like I do
I dont give a shit about whatever superficial injuries Trump, Biden or anyone else has because they are fucking irrelevant. I'm 100% behind Trump and not even I think about him as much as you do.
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>>1266038
>Trying to cover up that Trump has syphilis
Why?
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>>1266039
Like I said, your obsession will never not be funny.
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>>1266040
You're so desperate to keep it covered up, why?
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>>1266041
Cover what up? Your mental illness is on full display
>Trump, a billionaire who underwent multiple high-profile medical exams as President has a disease that has been curable since 1910
>how do I know this?
>well, you see, he had this scratch on his hand...
BWAHAHAHAH
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>>1266042
Is that why he covered up that secret trip to Walter Reed?
You're clearly desperate in covering up his health.
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>>1266042
The person your arguing with is our board retard
Best to ignore him, or if you must reply to him, just call him a retard and tell him to shut up
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>>1266046
You have to be a retard to defend Trump on /news/.
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>>1265935

Your response is hilarious to rational soveriegnty. Russia is an invader, yes?
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>>1266056
Not that Anon but I'm anxious to know what your point is supposed to be.
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>>1265828
Shill patrol is out on full defense mode for the anti American, loser former president.
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>>1265840
Stop being a freeloader
>>1265846
You're not even american
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>>1265828
>Boris is telling me I'm not American
That's rich
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>>1266048
>You have to be a retard to defend Trump
*ftfy
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>>1266132
True.
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>>1265828
>Leftists are outraged over the idea of paying their bills
Shocking. Wow. Who could have seen this coming?
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>>1265828
>As The Washington Post and other fact-checkers have noted, NATO member nations pledged to boost their funding over a period of 10 years at a 2014 summit held to address Russian aggression. Direct NATO funding has been increasing since then —
>although not at the pace needed to reach the goal set in 2014.
So no they aren't paying their bills, just resolving to think really hard about it. What did Trump do wrong here exactly?
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>>1265850
Integrity would involve you paying your bills.
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>>1265864
You mean the people the Democrats openly work for?
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>>1265854
Trump ended wars, Democrats make them worse. Simple as that.
>>1265858
Yeah it's nuts hearing a Western politician actually defend his own peoples' interests. Totally blew me away.
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>>1265868
This is the sort of person who will say "Biden isn't responsible for high gas prices" even as you show them exactly how Biden cancelled drilling leases, blocked domestic sales, and then pissed off the Saudis to boot.
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>>1265873
Interesting, I guess that theory that /k/ is now modded by glowies that delete any thread that isn't about /k/ is true. Definitely explains why you aren't allowed to criticize an anti-gun president on a gun board.
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>>1266186
>pissed off the saudis to boot
lol. you folks are just out in the open traitors at this point, eh?
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>>1265890
It matters less than US sovereignty to me, an American, watching our sovereignty continually degraded while our people and values are openly shat on by a school system that answers to an administration that answers to Beijing.
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>>1266048
A patriot stands up for the truth anywhere.
>>1266188
You have no rebuttal but adhom because you're a 60IQ brown shill.
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>>1266189
>hello 4chan, i am an american just like you
you're not american though
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>>1266191
>brown
is that what they tell you when you post here? parroting doesn't change that fact
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>>1266189
Your inability to get a domestic conservative agenda going anywhere outside of Florida should have nothing to do with whether you think Pax America is good or bad (tip: unless you're one of the "anticolonialist" goobers or a Russian it's good).
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>>1266192
I'm more American than you, Democrat. My ancestors fought for this country you are trying so hard to destroy, to twist into yet another authoritarian shell where anyone who fights against the waves of replacement migration can be casually arrested. I will fight to protect America, just as my ancestors did, and in the current day that means fighting you.
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>>1266184
Okay, I want to be amused by your retardation, how are the Democrats the allies of the Russians when the Republicans are pushing Russian interests.
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>>1266193
Who is "they" in your drug-addled leftist mind?
>>1266209
Twenty five states rose up and told the feds to fuck off. The agenda is already here. And you aren't responding to my post, where I said that preserving the Pax Americana matters LESS than preserving our sovereignty. The very fact that you view America and the Biden Administration's interests as one and the same, rather than the culture and values that made America what it is, shows how terminally brainrotted you are.
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>>1266226
Because the Republicans are pushing American interests while you refuse to defend the country you allegedly come from, and the entire Democrat party does whatever China wants. Hell, I remember Obama whining about how the Republicans thought the Cold War was still on because the Republicans wanted NATO to be prepared for Russian aggression. Or do you have another dossier that includes literal /pol/ shitposts to wave around so you can cope with Hillary losing by pretending it was foreign agents that caused it?
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>>1266227
here you go pretending to be American again. do you think we were born yesterday
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>>1266229
So you have no argument to present? What you are trying, clumsily, to suggest is that any American would be supporting Democrats, but you can't say it openly because that would be retarded. Quick tip, when you imply it it's still retarded.
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>>1266230
My argument is you are here trying comically hard to convince us you're American, it's a dead giveaway
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>>1266231
So your argument is that when you accuse everyone who disagrees with you of not being American, anyone calling you retarded must not be American? It seems a lot more likely you're just retarded, Anon.
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>>1266233
Don't let me interrupt your talking point, you have lies to spam
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>>1266233
Do you expect leftists not to be retarded? Rookie mistake.

>>1266231
Commies have no nation, kill yourself communigger.
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>>1266235
Nice samefag nerd
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>>1266234
Where and what specifically?
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>>1266239
>you were trying to convince us you're american but you got upset
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Good thread. Ivan BTFO.
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>>1266246
Kek, this. Leftist arguments are all circular and nonsensical. It's why asking them simple questions like "why do we prioritize our borders less than our allies' borders?" Or "what is a woman?" Sends them into conniptions.
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>>1266269
still not convinced
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>>1266259
Ivan is indeed btfo by Trump forcing NATO to arm up. Thankfully he did it before a weakling like Biden could give all of Europe away to Muslims and Russia.
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>>1266269
It's because you only speak in irrational conservative talking points. It's like talking to HannityBot. Who wants to do that?
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>>1266270
Doesn't matter. You're incapable of arguing in good faith, so then the purpose of the argument becomes showcasing this for anyone else reading the thread. You've played yourself by your abject refusal to make a cogent point.
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>>1266273
>Doesn't matter. You're incapable of arguing in good faith
you love to copy what people tell you, don't you
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>>1266272
So your argument is that disagreeing with you is inherently irrational? Interesting, why, and do you have evidence of this? Because so far you have nothing but assertions that anyone who is against you is a Russian, for some reason. Assertions on their own don't hold water, but I suppose you'd be hard pressed to find actual evidence for your insane points and even more insane ideology.
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>>1266276
>he's taking the moral ground now
This is getting to be comical. You people have your own set of alternative facts which contradict everything actually happening. No one here is going to respond to the strawmen leftists you have living in your head. And before you go total schizoid today I'm not even the guy you were responding to.
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>>1266274
Can you show me where that has been the case or is it just more projection on your part? Ironically, you argue very much like an actual vatnik. Implications and weaselspeak to cover up the fact that you have no real argument. I can state my points directly because they stand on their own, and that more than anything should hint to you that I'm on the right side and you're on the wrong one.
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>>1266282
>Can you show me where that has been the case or is it just more projection on your part?
well you just gave us a great example. you probably get called a vatnik all the time, here you are calling me such, though
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>>1266280
Well I'm actually logically dismantling your worldview and my clear moral correctness is just a side-effect of living a rational life. But here you are lashing out, will you enlighten us as to what alternative facts are on display here aside from people who aren't Russian continuing to not be Russian despite your assertion that they are Russian? Slipping into argumentum ad popularum is new for you though, and I'm proud of you for branching out, although you quickly slip back into the reflexive projection that your kind are so known for. You have plenty of time to formulate a response though, since I'm going to go munch that chuddiest of meals, a bacon cheeseburger.
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>>1266276
>>1266280
>>1266282
>>1266283
>>1266286
Everyone can tell you're samefag arguing with yourself, numbnuts.
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>>1266283
That doesn't follow at all. First because I didn't call you a vatnik. Second because no, that particular mental illness of accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being Russian is limited to this board (and Hillary Clinton). Care to try again at making a rational argument for your position?
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>>1266288
Kek, you got so embarrassed by your own leftist posts that now you try to attribute them to me.
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>>1266289
>i'm not russian, i just come here to post russian talking points
you're really bad at this. and i never said you're russian, why are you so defensive about it though. you brought it up, not me
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>>1265859
>This is why this board needs post IDs and flags
I suspect a ton of samefagging and spamming on this board
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>>1266297
Most /pol/tards say that when they inevitably try to make every other 4chan board like /pol/.
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>>1266233

Elon, go back to your dumpster fire of social media. Don't forget to recall your Teslas about those suspension issues either. I get that Russia is a budding market for you, but they will side with cheap Chinese EV's over yours.
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>>1266307
Yes because Elon spends his time in a leftist-encrusted dead 4chan board.
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>>1266318

Typical African fascist response.
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>>1266291
What Russian talking points? I Ctrl+f'd and no mention of Ukraine came up. Are the Russians in the room with us right now?
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>>1266419
Why lie about something so easily disproven
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>>1265865
>the fact you only here
Lmao using the wrong “hear” in a post criticizing someone’s use of English. Too tasty, thank you for your service retard
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NATO is based
america contributes more than their required slice of GDP, enough to cover the combined deficit from other countries more than five times over.
it's basically one of the unwritten acceptances of modern NATO, really. because the value of having another country within the alliance, that russia or anyone else can no longer even think about touching, has FAR more value than a piddly member country barely scraping together the rest of their contribution in the form of barely functional soviet equipment from the 70s they had to bring out of mothball
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>>1266038
Could you explain please why you back Trump? I am curious why anyone would do so.



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