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https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-election-criminal-cases-presidency-2024-11

Not only is the presidency on the line for Donald Trump in the 2024 election, but so are his four criminal indictments.

Winning would largely free the former president for the foreseeable future from dealing with his criminal cases. Losing to Democratic rival Vice President Kamala Harris means he must face these cases head-on.

"Setting politics aside, there is a lot at stake legally for Trump" in the November 5 election, former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told Business Insider.

Here's what will happen with Trump's four criminal cases — two federal and two state — if he wins or loses this year's presidency.

>The New York hush-money case

Whether Trump wins or loses the election, he will have a mandatory November 26 Manhattan sentencing date on his calendar.

Trump, the first US president convicted of a crime, faces anywhere from zero to four years in jail for his May conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to cover up his $130,000 hush-money payment to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.

There is some chance that date will be delayed. Trump has promised to fight his indictment and conviction in New York's appellate courts. He will argue that the evidence in the case includes acts that were done in his official role as president — evidence that is barred under July's landmark US Supreme Court presidential immunity decision.

Once he's sentenced, experts say more appeals could keep even a jail sentence on hold for years — though a jail sentence is highly unlikely, a quartet of former New York judges previously told BI.

Winning the presidency would extend things even further, as Trump could argue he's too busy running the country to tend to his personal legal issues.
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Cornell Law School professor Michael Dorf said it's likely that if Trump won back the White House, he would immediately file court papers to delay the sentencing until he is no longer president.

Rahmani, the president and cofounder of West Coast Trial Lawyers, said that he does not believe Trump would be sentenced to jail "regardless of the outcome of the election."

"Trump winning makes it logistically impossible and a certainty that he won't receive any time," Rahmani said.

>Trump's federal cases

Trump has two federal indictments, both brought by special counsel Jack Smith, and both eligible for a presidential pardon, though a self-pardon has never been tried.

If reelected president, Trump could ask his attorney general to fire Smith. He could also ask the courts to halt the federal prosecutions as there is long-standing Justice Department policy that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted while in office, or attempt to pardon himself, said Dorf.

Trump said in a conservative radio interview last month that if elected, he would fire Smith "within two seconds."

Justice Department regulations permit only firing a special counsel for good cause, but Trump could have his attorney general rescind that regulation, Dorf noted.

Firing Smith "is basically his right as president, though I would expect Smith to resign before then, just as a matter of course," said Michel Paradis, an attorney who teaches national security and constitutional law at Columbia Law School.

"The key thing to watch would be what Jack Smith does between Election Day and January 20 to potentially protect those prosecutions from interference," Paradis said.

"There's not a lot he can do to make them ironclad since, at the end of the day, the president does control the Justice Department," Paradis said.
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One thing Smith may try prior to Trump taking the oath is to seek to stay both proceedings during the presidency, again on the grounds that sitting presidents cannot be prosecuted while in office, Paradis said.

Trump has pleaded not guilty to both federal indictments.

In response to a request for comment, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said, "The Lyin' Kamala Harris - Crooked Joe Biden Witch Hunts against President Trump have imploded just like their failed campaign, and should all be dismissed in light of the Supreme Court's historic decision on immunity and other vital jurisprudence."

A DOJ spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

>The federal election interference case

If Trump loses, that does not mean Smith's prosecution of Trump's most serious federal case — charges that he tried to overturn the 2020 election — will barrel forward at full speed.

Citizen Trump would continue to challenge the so-called election interference case on grounds of presidential immunity, experts predict.

In July, the US Supreme Court issued a landmark opinion that provides presidents with broad protection from being prosecuted for their official acts. The opinion also bars the use of official-act evidence in any prosecution of a former president, even on charges not relating to official acts.

In August, Smith won a revised indictment that stresses that Trump is being charged for his conduct as a private, office-seeking citizen.

>The federal classified documents case

Trump's classified documents case, alleging that he failed to return government secrets he took from the White House, was dismissed in July by Trump-nominated US District Judge Aileen Cannon, who said Smith's appointment violated the Constitution.
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The dismissal, which argues Congress should have approved Smith's appointment, is now being appealed by Smith in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Smith's appeals point to what he calls "the long tradition of special-counsel appointments by Attorneys' General."

Whoever loses the appeal can appeal further, keeping Trump busy with the classified documents case for many months.

>The Georgia election interference case

The election interference case in Georgia against Trump and 18 of his allies remains in legal limbo, thanks to defendants' efforts to get the Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, disqualified from the state case.

In May, a Georgia appeals court agreed to consider Trump's bid to get Willis removed from the case.

Attorneys for Trump and his codefendants had previously argued in a motion to disqualify Willis that she had a conflict of interest in the case because she improperly benefited from a romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, the Atlanta lawyer she hired as a special prosecutor.

After an evidentiary hearing earlier this year, a judge ruled that Willis and her office could remain on the case so long as Wade stepped aside, and Wade announced his resignation hours later.

Trump has pleaded not guilty to the Georgia indictment.

If Trump wins the presidency, he could immediately file papers with the Georgia court "saying you got to put this on hold for the time that I'm president because it's just not consistent with federal supremacy to have a state prosecuting a sitting president," Dorf, a constitutional law expert, said.

"He doesn't control the prosecutors, so you can't fire them, and he can't pardon himself because these are state crimes, so his only option really in the state cases is suspend them," said Dorf.

If Trump loses the election, the case could move forward. Though Trump is likely to move to get it dismissed based on the Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling.
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This country is dumb enough to give him another term. America will show the world that it has a 4 year long memory, and the constant embarrassment of the trump years has been forgotten.
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>>1360286
At least you have 4 more years of trying to get dRumpf during what will likely be a ridiculously prosperous and peaceful time.
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>>1360286
This election was a referendum on the traditional media where they went all in on supporting Trump.
And he won.
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>>1360348
>ridiculously prosperous and peaceful time.
Thus proving my point. You're either willfully ignorant or have truly forgotten what a mess trump left. You really ate up the nonsense propaganda that the president is responsible for price gouging at the supermarket.
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>>1360286
>embarrassment
This is a problem for low iq clowns who view politics as a reality tv show.
Simple fact is the US, and the world, was better off during trumps presidency.
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>>1360361
I think you might be the sucker that are up the propaganda.
You are not immune.
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>>1360348
weren't we in constant fear of his dumbass starting a war with Iran?
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>>1360383
You were, maybe, turns out all the libtard hysteria was completely un-founded. Just look at what has happened since 'the adults' have been back incharge:
>2 new wars
>a terrorist chimpout in the red sea
>a completely botched Afghanistan pullout that turned into the greatest humiliation of the armed forces since the fall of Saigon
>Best Korea going from halting missile tests to openly arming and fighting alongside Russia
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>>1360437
>Trump supported both Russia and Israel
>Trump lionized Iran via assassinating a top leader
>Afghanistan pullout Trump started by giving Taliban the most one-sided concessions in US history
>North Korea got a salute and official recognition from Trump (but they're humiliating themselves on a national stage because their soldiers are shit so hey)

Thanks for reminding me how Trump would've had this on his record if he won 2020 considering how he set it up to fall.
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>>1360359
>they went all in on supporting Trump
lol
lmao even
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>>1360437
>Republicans voted in an anti-war president in 2016
>barely a year later, US cruise missiles were launched at Syria
Were those launched on Biden's watch?
Good luck with your Manbaby-in-Chief
>>
This wall of cope won't save you from Project 2025
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>>1360455
Won't save you either. Enjoy the patented RFK measles outbreak and the giant economic crash that leaves billionaires like Musk with even more of a stranglehold over US businesses. And that's before they get to your pension and healthcare.
>>
I mean, when he spent 4 years NOT being president nobody did shit about. So obviously if he is president he sure as shit won't be getting punished for his crimes.

Did he ever pay the settlement to the woman he raped?
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>>1360457
I'm done. After this I no longer care anymore. America is finished.
One third of the country could not be bothered to vote even after it was painfully obvious voting really does matter.
Another third honestly believes a rapist nazi is a good choice for the most powerful office in the world even after he spent 4 whole years proving it isn't a good idea. Billionaires didn't ruin us. Apathy did. And I can't cure tens of millions of lazy stupid assholes. I could join team orange and support the fascism, just roll around like a pig rolls in shit.
But no. I'm gonna cut myself off from politics and political activism and social activism while the greatest nation on earth eats itself. There's nothing I can do to save it. Only 1/3 of the country was smart and brave enough to see the problem and fight it, and that aint enough. We are gonna have maybe one more generation before collapse. And two more generations of real shit before we get our heads unfucked and repair it.
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>>1360459
Which is why Australia & Brazil have the right idea: Compulsory Voting. A concept that scares the Rethuglicans shitless. Why? If everyone HAD to vote, the GOP would never get in again.
I've always voted. So if it became compulsory, I have absolutely no problem with that. I've always voted. So everyone else doesn't have the right to any excuses for not doing so.
>>
lol, lmao even
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>>1360462
IN order to make mandatory voting you'd have to get congress to pass a law, and republicans always block anything that even encourages voting. they known a long time the bulk of the nation would vote democrat IF they voted. But nope, it doesnt matter. Again its the widespread apathy which caused this, and you cannot fix that with laws. Shit, this country cant fix much of anything with laws.
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>>1360457
*nothing happens*
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>>1360462
It's insane to me how quickly brazil actually got its shit together after 21 years living in a dictatorship, how tf did they do it?
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>>1360462
COOOPING

COPING AND SEEEETHING
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>>1360484
>*nothing happens*
Trump will play more golf than anything else. President of Vice JD Weird will be an irrelevance. Elongated Muskrat is an autismtard - as his mother admitted he is - and be a spergy retard. Oh, and Trump will ramble incoherently even more as he becomes even more senile. If anything, the Repubs winning is fine: more retards to point and laugh at
As >>1360438 says about the Democrats, then the Repubicans:
>Oh they'll recover. Every time the republicans get a foothold they fuck up so badly they lose the next election. Hell I'm surprised they got senate if they didn't cheat considering how much of an absolute embarrassment the republican house has been
>>1360501
I'll be Pointing
Pointing and Laughing At A Senile Orange Retard Being The Chris-Chan Of Presidents
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>>1360501
>makes the same post in every thread
COOOPYING

COPYING AND PAAAASTING
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>>1360546
Trump won
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>>1360532
>President of Vice JD Weird will be an irrelevance.
Holy fuck your translation service sucks, foreign shill
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>>1360549
>he doesn't get it
lol
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>>1360548
And America lost.
Congrats, morons.
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>>1360564
The MAJORITY of Americans seem to disagree.

COOOOPING

Coping and SEEEETHING
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>>1360564
You will be dragged kicking and screaming to a golden age of prosperity. But only if you're an American (you're not).
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>>1359988
NY literally invented new laws to prosecute Trump. The case against him is irrelevant. voters already told the judge to dismiss.
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>>1360564
Democrats aren't American
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>>1360580 isn't American
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>>1360581
You wish.
Nobody wants your bullshit and last night's election proved it
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>>1360437
trump launched more drone strikes per unit time than motherfucking obama, assassinated one of iran's top military officials in broad daylight with a missile made out of knives and then taunted khamenei about it, goaded north korea to use their nuclear button so he could use his in retaliation, wanted to sell puerto rico to buy greenland in exchange, floated the idea of launching missiles into mexico and blaming the launch on another country, russia had occupying military forces fighting inside sovereign ukrainian territory for his whole term, and he also invited taliban leaders who had been killing american soldiers for years to an all smiles goodwill meeting at camp david on the anniversary of 9/11 before setting 5000 captured fighters free as a favor for zero concessions- fighters who all promptly picked up weapons and overran afghanistan while biden was forced to adhere to the US retreat trump abruptly put in motion just before his term expired and he sent a mob to storm the capitol and kill his own vice president for the crime of not violating the constitution to install him as king. all this on top of the race riots he inflamed and had a deep, disturbing desire to quell with the national guard. in fact, so lustful was he for blood that his generals had to make a secret pact that they would collectively refuse any order to bear lethal force against masses of citizens engaged in either a constitutionally-protected protest or unlawful riot.
no it wasnt very peaceful actually. i would have trouble thinking of even a single month of the trump presidency's first 48 that could be objectively defined as peaceful
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>>1360446
i mean, did you see some of the milquetoast headlines following trump's more unhinged rants or nonsensical word salad this campaign season?
it was the most dramatic sanewashing anyone has ever seen.
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>>1360497
lula sweep, union steelworker turned president
hope springs eternal
you just need to make the people suffer for long enough under a corrupt autocrat to reach the critical level of sheer anger to realize that the people are many, the government is few, and the government should bend to their will and not the other way around
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>>1360583 isn't American.
Nobody wants your bullshit and the orange heifer that makes said bullshit will be out of the White House in four years. Guaranteed. Clouds and silver linings. As Biden's time was short, and those four years went by fast, so will be Trump's. Grover Cleveland couldn't be elected for a third time
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>>1360591
>Guaranteed
mate cmon, don't raise a flag like that it's just asking for drumpf to abuse his majorities and rewrite the constitution wholesale or something stupid
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>>1360441
>They did nothing when Trump was incharge despite him kissing their boots
>Biden gets power
>They start getting uppity
>It drumpf's fault!
top kek you can't make this up.
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>>1360592
honestly I don't think Trump will last that long simply due to age and condition. He was already sunsetting on the campaign trail.

Better hope the corps that own Vance are merciful lol.
>>
realistically, none of this matters because he'll just pardon himself when he gets into office. being president-elect has made any chance at a sentence completely impossible.
and if anyone wants to cry foul at an unprecedented self-pardon, he'll just take it to his reliably packed scotus.
not looking forward to alito and thomas retiring comfortably so trump can install two more young hyper-conservative justices, solidifying the supermajority of no rights no progress until i am at least 70 years old. fuck's sake.
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>>1360597
>5000 taliban released for nothing
>afghan government left completely out of talks
>iran nuclear deal exited
>trump tries to leave/stop funding NATO

Why would you move in when you can get all this free shit first?
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>>1360609
I don't get how the right thinks a corrupt supreme court is on anyone's side but their masters. Like you know that 2nd amendment is going to become suddenly very arguable the second it gets in the way of say, a corporate land grab.
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>>1360612
Nobody's corrupt except the people who keep feeding you this BS you love regurgitating
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>>1360462
Argentina invented that
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>>1360462
Given that Democrats get routinely caught paying organizations to fraudulently register thousands of voters as Democrats, I agree, this would be a prime strategy for Democrats; piling on thousands of fake voter registrations and then using them to vote Democrat.. compulsively
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>>1360613
fascism has historically turned from oppressing the people you don't like to oppressing you instead when it suits the powers that be very, very quickly.
desantis has already given test runs of secret police beholden to the governor alone
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>>1360613
>Thomas totally didn't accept 4.2 million in "gifts" from superdonors

He literally admitted to it anon, basically gloating about how he can't be removed. Leave the parties aside and see he'll turn on your interests the minute he's told, and the rest of the republican judges will follow suit immediately.
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>>1360627
What were these gifts? Oh that's right, people hung out with him on their boats and airplanes. He wasn't actually given anything.
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>>1360628
>Paid for his grandnephew's school tuition
>Gave 500k to his wife's tea party group that Thomas didn't disclose as income
>Free trips to Bohemian Grove

Yeah sure anon. And I'm sure none of that influences him in his position and it's just a coincidence he's really good friends with doners who regularly bring cases to the SC
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>BREAKING: Jack Smith's prosecution is OVER:

“The DOJ, where Jack Smith works, cannot prosecute a sitting president… Fox News is told that Jack Smith will be gone from his post as special counsel, meaning the cases will be gone before Trump takes the oath of office on January 20.”


oh no no no! so what's the next cope?
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>>1360628
he got comped rides on private jets and yachts owned by a billionaire businessman who had an ownership stake in a company that was directly financially affected by a case on the court's docket.
it's a deliberate and inflammatory example of impropriety, not because he's dumb (he is) but because there's no binding ethics rules for SCOTUS justices so he knows he can just do it. fr, far too many checks and balances in the US government operate on good faith alone, because the people making laws and writing rules never in their wildest dreams had assumed that a justice would just... not recuse themselves from a direct conflict of interest.
it's the same reason there's so few real limits on executive orders and presidential immunity. the thought that the american people would by and large elect someone who would readily abuse those systems was near unfathomable, and in the off chance that they did the misconduct would earn them a swift impeachment from congress (nixon).
things fell apart when one party collectively decided that since they were nonbinding, they should just be ignored.
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>>1360636
... did you think we were expecting trump to keep jack on the job just to be a good sport about it or something?
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>>1360643
Well trump didn't fire him, that would have been Biden
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>>1360643
...it literally says there that Jack is gone before Trump gets sworn in idiot
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>>1360644
a prosecutor retracting their own cases for cause is not a firing, and either way he'll just be going back to the hague to resume his warcrimes prosecution work.
i've noticed, why does everything revolve around the concept of firing with you guys?
does it all just circle back to trump's reality tv stint on the apprentice? you know that was all staged, right?
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>>1360636
garlad you dumbass, you were too slow yet again
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>>1360649
Cool then we agree that this has nothing to do with "trump keeping him on the job" like stated here: >>1360643
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>>1360649
>why does everything revolve around the concept of firing with you guys?
Why can't you guys follow a conversation? Someone implied trump would make the choice to remove jack, people replied to him, and you act like they made the original claim.

Retard.
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>>1360651
the point was if trump out of the blue told jack smith to continue the prosecution and he would agree to follow it to whatever end, then jack would be obligated to stay. it was a hypothetical, sorry if that wasn't as clear as i could have made it
>>1360652
lose the reddit spacing and pick up some reading comprehension maybe, r/thedonald refugee
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>>1360653
Go shit up another country, loser
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>>1360586
Good post
>>
Trump pardons himself and I'm all for it. Get fucked leftards hueheuhue
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>>1359988
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAA.
Thats all I came here to say.
TDS is strong with you.
I wonder if you'll still reeee post when the funding stops?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.
>>
>Democrats retake House after the 2026 midterms.
>Push for impeachment on Day 1 of the 2027 Congress.
>Senate GOP says, "Y'know what? Fuck this," and threatens to either abstain or along with the Democrats to convict.
>Trump is offered the "Nixon option": to prevent a conviction, he resigns from office, and in return President Vance will issue a blanket pardon for any and all crimes Trump may have committed before and during his Presidency.
>Vance assumes the Presidency and Trump rides off into the sunset a free man.
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>>1360673
entertaining wild fantasies won't help in the short or long term, man.
we got our asses beat, suck it up, lick the wounds, and tear the entire fucking party to the ground and rebuild it for the new, fucked up electorate we now know the country has.
overton window go brrr
us politics and the party duopoly becoming increasingly conservative and mean across the board here we go baybee
i want to fucking kill myself
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>>1360654
i was born here chud, this land is my land
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>>1360673
oh yeah things are looking bad already in 2026, and that is if things go to plan

>2 years in
>"time of hardship" Musk and company said would happen is in full swing
>Voters turn on Repubs because it turns out their statement that they'd fix inflation was full of shit
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>>1360673
surely, the third time will be the charm, says the Democrats on attempting to impeach trump on bogus charges
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>>1360684
>>1360673
Libshit headcanon is wild
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>>1360687
Anon your own candidates fanboy literally said under his plan there'll "be some hardship". Expect the next two years to be shit for everyone.
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>>1359988
Well he was never gonna lose so it was calculated and an EZ win for Prez Trump again. How about the Dems not put some fake ass race baiting woman up there and maybe people might vote for them next time.
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>>1360673
COOOOPING

coping and SEEEETHING
>>
>>1360692
The next four years are going to be especially shit for (you).
>>
What's states *didn't* trump win? It looks like the only ones he didn't take were the democrat shit holes, and the New England states
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>>1360564
No, no.
America won.
Trump won.
YOU lost.
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>>1360705
>03
The only shitholes is your brain and those illiterate cousin fucker red states
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>>1360712
This is why you people don't win elections.
>>
MAGA will die. It was simply a case of sooner or later, and all that's happened is a delay of the inevitable. What are MAGAtards going to do when one of three things happens: Trump buys the farm because of one Big Mac too many, becomes so senile he's removed from the White House prematurely, and the most inevitable of all: his second term is up in 2028 (and any & all claims to the contrary will never happen). No Trump, no MAGA: and anyone else simply won't be good enough. Because they're not Trump.
Your so-called 'victory' is a pyrrhic one. And time is one someone's side sit down, MAGAtards
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>>1360740
Libtard headcanon is wild. Try to stop huffing so many farts, buddy, maybe you'll normalize out a little bit
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>>1360742
His fanfic is bullshit but this is MAGA's twilight years. As soon as Trump dies they'll split up into camps trying to take his place.
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>>1360564
Awwwwwww
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>>1360777
>MAGA just won the popular vote.
Truly we are living in the best timeline
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>>1360777
This is a political movement entirely reliant on one man's image. Without him it splinters because the campaigning has started to revolve entirely around him and his approval.
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>>1360566
Prove it. Prove with evidence "THE MAJORITY" of Americans agree.
Link data.

All you know it 1/3 of eligible voters picked him. Another 1/3 did not, and the final third didnt vote at all. Which given the nature of the American Nazi party to block voting doesnt actually mean they were fine with him.

By Barbara R. Arnwine President & Founder Transformative Justice Coalition. Author, 2011 Voting Rights Map of Shame.
Print your own copy or view online at VotingRightsAlliance.org

1. Strict voter photo ID laws
2. Closing of DMV’s in strict voter ID law states
3. Failure to accept government-issued state university and college student ID’s
4. No early voting
5. Early voting cuts
6. No Sunday Souls to the Polls Early Voting
7. Harsh requirements/punishments for voter registration groups
8. Tough Deputy Registrar Requirements
9. Harsh voter registration Compliance Deadlines
10.Failure to timely process voter registrations
11.Cuts to Election Day (Same Day) registration
12.Polling place reductions or consolidations
13.Polling place relocations
14.Inadequate or poorly trained staffing at polls
15.Inadequate number of functioning machines, optical scanners or electronic polling books
16.Running out of ballots at polling sites
17.No paper ballots
18.Failure to accept Native American tribal IDs.
19.Barring Native American voters through residential address requirements for Native American lands which have PO Boxes
20.Failure to place polling sites on Native American lands
21.Refusal to place polling sites on college campuses
22.Lack of available public transportation to polling sites
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>>1360772
>Awwwwwww
If thats the best you can come up with, it means you know you're full of shit and just dont care. You are a toddler. Probably in a grown up body and probably with a gun. The toddlers of America win. Good for you.
And when you lost you stormed the capitol and killed an innocent man to prove how immature you are.
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>>1360742
He's predicting the future, which is not headcanon. But thats OK you people arent thinkers, you're criers. And baby finally got his bottle after 4 years of constant screaming.
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>>1360286
>muh memory!
lol how do you cope with the fact that people who actually remember the last 20 years overwhelmingly voted for Trump? Dems have to rely on Zoomers because you were in preschool when Obama got elected.
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>>1360801
Literal fucking botpost lmao all that DNC funding really dried up
>>
>nothing will happen
>nothing ever happens
>everything's been paid for
Accept plutocracy, everyone else has.



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