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Why do luddites hate screens in cars?
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i dont get the hate for this icc in particular ive never had an issue and the aftermarket shit like kayhan and aeropro (aussie shit) are absolutely garbage
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>>28093447
because it used to be a unique feeling, whether you sat into a rolls royce or a civic to operate the controls
now every single car you sit into is chink dystopia complete with buzzers, dingers, warnings and other worthless eyesore shite.
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>>28093455
at least my old 2008-2015 ford falcons have touch screen as an option not a requirement
i got sick of cleaning the touchscreen so i can just use buttons
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>>28093447
This is wrong. Those systems just blow dry as fuck heat in your face.

The BMW 7 series system uses a body heat IR sensor and you tell the system how warm you want the cabin to be. It adjusts the temp based on your body heat. It also has the blue and red capacitor slider thing below the vent and you can adjust it to diffuse the heat across the cabin or direct it at you.

So if you want a blast of pure dry heat you leave it all the way red and if you prefer to keep your face cool without reducing the temp or speed of cabin warming up you leave it blue.

But this is the type of shit that faggots in 2005 toyotas have never experienced and so they act like BMWs are bad and Toyota is good
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>>28093455
Imagine buying a car because you liked fiddling with the buttons and knobs and not because it was a good car.
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>>28093481
A car is a whole package. The controls are what you will be interacting with every single day.
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>>28093462
No, that’s retarded, I don’t want to calculate the relative temperature I feel like whenever I get into the car and then wait five minutes for it to adjust. Annoying as shit to have to turn off the system when it’s trying to reach a specific temp when I just want it not blowing. When it’s a hit fucking day I set to cold, when it’s a cold fucking day I set to hot, it blasts and when I’m happy I turn it down. All by muscle memory, don’t have to look or think about it.
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>>28093453
>Interior Command Centre
Hiw fuxking pompous.
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>>28093447
touchscreens in cars are ugly, slow, and GAY as FUCK
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>>28093447
Honest question, why are you guys buying new cars? I usually buy nicely preserved ~15 year old cars. You can get them for like $5-10k and they're awesome. No auto-braking, no lane-keep nanny retard assist, no screens, no problems. Fun, engaging, reliable cars.
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>>28093494
>open differential lady's commuter sedan
You're a gay man driving a gay car. BMW's are for faggots.
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>>28093499
>he thinks M5s have open diffs
"BMW is are for" kek
You probably drive a little faggot hatchback kek
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>>28093483
Yeah every single day for 15 seconds when you're sitting parked in your driveway getting ready and then never again.
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>>28093503
>retard thinks apostrophes are only used for contractions
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>>28093447
Knobs are can be accessed quickly and give feedback. Brands and customers dont want them because they look old and cheap.
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>>28093520
You've never driven the newest BMWs with threaded screens. There's a goddamn popup message every time you turn on the car you need to dismiss before you can control fan speed or fan direction. Go fuck yourself with a cactus that shit is awful.
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>>28093521
>he thinks apostrophes pluralize a subject
So "are for" belongs to BMW?
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>>28093491
isnt it just ford sync 2? i think it got upgraded to ford sync 3/4 in aftermarket
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>>28093455
Not every single car.
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>>28093531
Kek YWNBABMW
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>>28093528
You're trying too hard to come across as an English expert, BMW Mandeep. The apostrophe in the second sentence of this post is used for possession
>>28093499
Don't let all that fatty food clog your arteries and make head hurty!
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>>28093533
Thank God.
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>>28093533
Retard sees a Mazda logo on the wheel and has a kneejerk reaction, assuming it's a Miata.
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>>28093536
>The apostrophe in the second sentence of this post is used for possession
The second apostrophe in your post was in "don't." That definitely isn't possession.
So BMW is are for, or "are for" belongs to BMW. Which is it?
Captcha: VMAXW
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Retard
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>>28093542
Lol what they just ripped off modern BMW interiors with shittier materials. Has nothing to do with what brand it is
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>>28093549
Kek cry pussy
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>>28093541
There are no gods.
E39 > any matsuda; get over it.
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I don’t hate my screen. I hate when it doesn’t work, which is all the time.
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>>28093447
because screens are ugly slow and gay
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>>28093564
I've rented cars with touchscrens, and using one affixed to the dash is just so annoying while moving.
touchscreens in cars are a USG dealbreaker.
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>>28093556
You drive a faggot car and can't stop crying about it. You spend all day on 4chan because you have no women, no friends, and no family.
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>>28093569
kek "based" to use the parlance of our timed
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The touch screen should only control audio, maps, and phone sync. The manufacturers will never do this because it would prevent them from putting in a shitty iPad that controls everything and marking up the price 500% of an iPad and rolling it into vehicle cost, but the first manufacturer to make a highly mechanical budget vehicle that lets you dock a phone to a screen that only does audio, maps, and phone sync will make a fortune.
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>>28093571
Well now they don’t even let you use them while you’re moving.
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>>28093572
I'm laying in bed waiting for restaurants to open so I can take a shower, get a torta at the place recommended by one of the camaronons I believe, then go to my other fucking home (LOL) to eat said torta, perhaps make some genovese, then head back to where I currently am to get back into said bed.
Kek cry pussy
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>>28093560
Brews Motor oil and Water
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>>28093576
LOL good riddance
gaypad screens in cars are fucking useless USG dealbreakers
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>>28093447
We have fallen a long way to get to the point where this is one of the best AC control panels in modern cars
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>>28093453
the button grouping is just so illogical here
why is the hazard button right in the middle of the air con controls?
why is the ceiling light in the middle of the radio controls? why is there a big button in the middle labelled "INTERIOR COMMAND CENTRE"? is it even a button?

you shouldn't have to think this hard if something is properly designed
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>>28093579
Have fun on your incel adventure, fucking faggot. No friends, no women, no life.
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>>28093588
Kek cry pussy
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>>28093589
Why would I cry? Because you're an incel faggot driving a faggot incel car? That doesn't make me cry, that makes me laugh.
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>>28093526
Land Rover's also, with the added bonus of land rover quality electronics so half the time you try to dismiss it it glitches and locks you out of all controls.
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>>28093462
Actually in my Venue the heater is humid and the a/c is dry, which is important when I have to defog the interior
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>>28093587
>why is the ceiling light in the middle of the radio controls? why is there a big button in the middle labelled "INTERIOR COMMAND CENTRE"? is it even a button?
icc isnt a button lol fords fucking retarded
ceiling light is near the door lock which is a ok choice
>why is the hazard button right in the middle of the air con controls?
dunno it also has little raised braille like shit so you get used to button positons
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>>28093592
Kek i bet you're too much of a pussy to even post any of your cars little clowncel keep crying pussy lol
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Old cars did it better
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>>28093609
Based birdo
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>>28093607
Here's my ride. Now post a photo of a natural born woman near your incel-mobile before you die of aids. Fag.
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>>28093621
is that a chiron for ants?, are you manlytears?
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>>28093621
Literally two women in the car in these pics lol
Kek cry more pussy
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>>28093654
Just because you get fucked by men doesn't mean you are a woman. Incel car for faggots.
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>>28093447
Everything after the 1st gen Tundra was a mistake
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based rocksprayer
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>>28093609
Brother
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>>28093672
The two women were in the car
I was outside taking the picture
Kek cry pussy
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>why are you stopping?
>mom wait a minute, I need to take a photo of your car
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>>28093677
Man, that 67 console gauge set makes me jealous
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>>28093678
>The two women were in the car
Then you should be able to show us a picture of them. But you can't, because you're a failed incel faggot making up stories. You spend your life on this board because you have no friends, no family, and no life.
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>>28093676
All right i haven't eaten in morr than 24 hours, time to shower, drive my E39 to get that torta, snap a picture for the camaro thread, then drive my E39 some more.
E39.
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>>28093685
Kek I'm gonna drive my E39 to get a torta n a burrito. I'll show thw wax on/wax off pics before the roadtrip when I get to my other home lol
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>>28093462
That is fucking gay and retarded. I want my testicles and body be cool
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>>28093693
>I'm gonna drive my E39 to get a torta n a burrito
Alone? How old are you?
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>>28093447
I only hate them when you're forced to use them for stuff that would have been a physical button or knob on an older car.

That said, dual zone climate is a fucking godsend if you regularly have women in your car, they're always cold and it's especially bad if they're like my old roommate who was an 80lb Asian girl who wore as little as she could get away with at any given time and so was only comfortable if it was like 90 degrees, while I'm a fat guy of Alpine and Northern European descent that always wears long pants and button-up shirts with an undershirt so I'm always hot, it was so nice when I got my current truck and didn't have to suffer for her anymore.
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>>28093705
>he NEEDS to eat with other people BECAUSE OKAY!!!!
Kek how old are you?
Ok holy fuck I'm hungry i'm really going now. I'll post an E39 pic in the camarothread when I get to where I'm goin
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>>28093693
>torta n a burrito
brown alert
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>>28093711
It is just sad to eat alone
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>>28093711
Pathetic that you have no friends and no women in your life. You're an autistic incel, literally the BMW stereotype to a fucking T.
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>>28093494
>125x57
Dang this guy hates tech so much that he's still using a 320x240 monitor and a digital camera from 1999.
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>>28093722
The "s" in the filename is when you save an image thumbnail from 4chan.
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>>28093462
>The BMW 7 series system uses a body heat IR sensor and you tell the system how warm you want the cabin to be
i dont fucking care. a car is a car not a pseudo wannabe hotel room for goat fuckers and kebab wranglers.
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>>28093531
I don't want to touch anything in this car.
>>28093481
If it were 1987 and you had a brand new mercedes and you didn't play with the dials you would be too boring and emotionally reserved to not have killed yourself.
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>>28093447
I've driven a Tesla M3 for a year, and use a car with those nobs about once every few months. The nobs suck.
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>>28093462
I only go full heat or full cold.
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Because it's piss ugly, much more prone to malfunction than physical controls, and just doesn't feel as nice. It's also one more distraction for the average retard to be playing with while they drive.
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>>28093836
This
Poorfags won't ever know what it's like to step into a car that's already at the perfect temperature because you set it through the app 5 minutes before leaving
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>>28093481
You are stupid and not worth arguing against. I hope you suffer in your life and that it'll be because it's your own fault
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>>28093960
>>28093836
catch a railroad spike through your dick retard samefag brown skin
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>>28093960
Even then, you get in and don't need to do anything because the car is set to always be at 69 degrees.
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>>28093455
>>28093483
>>28093941
>>28093965
>>28093969
Just glue a fidget spinner or an autism cube to your steering wheel since not being able to play with muh clicky buttons is so clearly triggering to you.
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>>28093674
disgusting blob
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>>28094051
im not buying your cheap fucking screen chang
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I have never set the driver and passenger temps differently, no one who has ever ridden with me or that I have been a passenger with has adjusted them differently.
I never understood why cars would ever split them.
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>>28093584
That’s a great one. Just set it to 72 once and never touch again
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>>28094222
They're trying to sell you on the idea that you COULD if you wanted to. It won't happen but possibly theoretically potentially you may at some point consider to explore the concept of maybe doing so.
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>>28094222
>>28094266
You've never had a female passenger and it shows. Women are always either too hot or too cold. They're literally never comfortable. You can set it at 72 and they want it to be either 66 or 80.
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>>28093496
Don't forget that old cars are more comfy.
>>28093481
Haha yeah......
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>>28094334
>And it shows
Go back to R*ddit you dumb figger naggot
My wife has never touched my climate controls
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>>28094368
That doesn't mean that she wouldn't rather have it set to a different number than whatever it is. Given how immediately angry you got just from an Internet comment, she's probably afraid you'd hit her if she did.
Not that anyone believes you're married in the first place. It's just something that's really easy to lie about it you think it can somehow invalidate someone else's counterpoint to your stupid argument, which it didn't by the way
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>>28093546
Second SENTENCE dumbshit, not second apostrophe. You will never be white, so quit roleplaying as some stuck up English teacher.
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>>28093572
Don't forget he woke up from an all day nap at 1am today. This guy drowns his sorrows in alcohol and fatty foods.
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>/o/ feels like a fighter pilot because of physical AC controls
You people are fucking pathetic. Almost as bad as /g/ losing its fucking mind when someone rounds the corners of a browser button.
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>>28094592
>/o/ feels like a fighter pilot because of physical AC controls
Yes.
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>>28094592
little things matter often more than the big. My car got graffitied once and i ended up leaving it for about 3 years until i scrapped after an accident. The nigger scribbles are completely inconsequential and do not effect the feel of my drive. If i have to interact with something on a daily basis, the tiny shit, like the shape of a button is enough that i would be willing to sell a car over if it causes even the slightest discomfort if i have to use it more than once in a blue moon. Things that you spend a lot of time doing should have the highest quality accessories that you need to do it that you can reasonably afford. High quality tools inspire and make you look forward to using them.
Needing to use touch controls or having a poorly laid out button system is dangerously distracting, ugly and forces the driver into having to look away while driving a 2klb+ machine. Being unable to parse information at a quick glance or better yet muscle memory, is beyond unacceptable.
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>>28093447
Tactile feedback is the be all and end all, i can easily control every aspect of my car without taking my eyes off of the road, I can change my music fully work my AC and heater adjust my seat and my lights and change between track or sport mode without taking a single millisecond of focus off of the road. Having driven faggotmobiles like a Model S plaid, i have to navigate menus see where I'm pressing on the touch screen to do anything it's not intuitive at all, it's a hassle. Film ipads.
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>>28093462
>hey man my heater broke, can you fix it?
>yeah, that'll be $4,300
fucking retard
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>>28093447
My 2018 Mirage has all three of these.
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>>28093447
Its because they dont trust software by those companies. Only cars that people love that have screens are Teslas. With auto climate setting, you dont need to change anything on the screen.

>fan
Tesla automatically changes fan during summer
>hot/cold
Tesla automatically changes their heat pump to insert or remove heat from the car automatically
>airflow direction
Easy, accurate and precision choice with touchscreen control that can angle the airflow in any minute angle at the touch of your fingertip.
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>>28093447
The touchscreen in my wifes 2024 car is like some shitty aliexpress android tablet with all sorts of lag and just feels cheap. If it was like an actual responsive high end ipad it would be alright i guess.
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>>28094363
>not even once
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>>28094157
84th post best post
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>>28094971
awww yeahhhh
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>>28093552
>ripped off modern BMW interiors

Nah you're fucking retarded.
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>>28093462
i have those exact same hvac controls in my car and they fucking suck
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>>28095009
Miles of creaky plastic and one big $200 screen
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>>28093588
>Have fun on your incel adventure
lol
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>>28095009
Now post the original M4 interior kek
matsuda tries so hard to look like BMW but WNBABMW
E39 > any matsuda, by the way kek
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>>28094363

Damn dude those seats are so plush I'd be worried about going ultra comfort mode, falling asleep at the wheel and driving off a cliff.
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>>28094222
>>28094266
>virgins
>>28095664
>Incelboy is back, baby!
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>>28095677
Kek hatchcels are so fucking delusional goddamn
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>>28093462
I have a f30 330i and it has a much older version of this, where you just control how hot the air is blowing at your face separately from everything else. It's surprisingly nice, and my favorite convenience feature of the car. The main problem of the car is that I get beat up and chased off at any BMW meetup I go to for not owning a "REAL BMW". But I am growing to accept it at this point and starting to be known around these parts.
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>>28095713
If your f30 experience is anything like mine you'll grow to love it for what it is just as the motor blows up. Then you'll constantly want a newer bmw, but A) not believe the "no, but /this/ time is different and the b58 is going to last" crowd and B) they don't sell anything with a stick close to what you're willing to pay.
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>>28093447
I don't hate screens. What I hate is the computers in cars these days that spy on you. It would be impossible to argue against just how retarded this is. My car does not need an internet connection.
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>>28093711
>>28093693
>>28095664
If this isn't bait, thank you Pajeet, your kind make me laugh greatly.
>images for ants (internet cafe wifi is too slow for big images)
>posting cars that aren't yours
>"Sar! The two beyutifal aryan womens are in the vehicle, trust sar!"
>rping some dumb shit he made up on the spot
>will never deliver in the next thread
pls never change, brown people

>>28094363
nice tewi, very comfy looking
>>28094971
I could sleep on those seats, too comfy
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>>28095747
>If this isn't bait
It is. He's been going ham reposting thumbnails saved from 4chan across multiple threads.
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>>28093447
Touch screens and surfaces have always been mostly idiotic.
You just lack the precision and control of real, physical buttons, and it 90% of the cases you don't need the flexibility cause functions never change.
Sure, the Neflix button on your tv remote is probably idiotic but on Android phones they're never going to get rid of the basic back+home+menu functions, so they might as well make them hard buttons. Your phone will die before those functions become redundant.
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>>28095749
>everything is fake and no one owns any cars!!!
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>>28095661
>and driving off a cliff.
Well... I don't have to worry about that part.
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>>28095943
ms paint?
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>>28096365
shitty camera
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>>28093447
Touch screens are fine in some contexts. It's where manufacturers cheap out when it comes to physical buttons & dials that it becomes a problem. Consider the climate controls and sound system in my 21 year-old car. For the former about all there is to do, ever, is dial the temperature up or down via two buttons that are always there, and as for the soundsystem, well, let's just say that you'd have to be there, with volume, album paging, fast forward and reverse built into the steering wheel, where you never have to look to make it happen. And so much more.
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>>28093447
they just look bad to me
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>>28096410
>wasteland
>fields of crops to the horizon
That's not how "wasteland" works.
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>>28093447
one more thing that can (and will) break (by design)
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>>28093447
You have to take your eyes off the road if you want to change the hvac setting, not so with physical dials or sliders or buttons.

>900 sec wait time
wtf
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>>28097318
verify your email anon
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>>28097325
>giving Hiroshima your email
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Screen based controls provide no tactile feedback and require you to take your eyes off the road to use them.
Physical button and knobs can be used by feel and don't usually necessitate taking your eyes off the road.
It's funny how many places are passing laws against using your phone while driving but apparently it's ok as long as long as it's permanently attached to the dash lol
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>>28099596
That just sounds like an issue of skill
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>>28099668
>issue of skill
pay attention to the fucking road asshole. If you want to play on your fridge tablet, ride the fucking bus.
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>>28099785
>I can't use one of the most ubiquitous pieces of technology in the world without losing complete control of my body and immediately crashing
Sounds like I was right. Thanks for clarification
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>>28093682
kek
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>>28093462
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>28093587
>why is the hazard button right in the middle of the air con controls?
its clearly separated by spacers
>why is there a big button in the middle labelled "INTERIOR COMMAND CENTRE"? is it even a button
in the higher trims with dual zone aircon, that "button" is the fan control, and the fan control on the left hand size gets replaced with another temp control button.
>why is the ceiling light in the middle of the radio controls?
yeah thats a retarded design choice on the ute variant.
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>>28093531
Beautiful
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The people most against screens are also the same people that eat in their cars and it’s not a coincidence
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>>28099596
>>28099785
How much do you need to fiddle around with shit when you're driving? Do you have to change the temperature and volume every 2 minutes?
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>>28093588
>Have fun on your incel adventure, fucking faggot. No friends, no women, no life.
This is why i just stay home and rot because everything i do is an incel adventure without a gf ;-;
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>>28094592
How do tablet niggers cope with having worse ergonomics than a 20 year old Swedish shitbox?
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>>28093447
2005 is where it all peaked for me
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>>28093462
>Those systems just blow dry as fuck heat in your face.
Unless you've got a humidifier in your car, which you don't, the relative humidity will always decrease when you heat up air.
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>>28100950
Great news!
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>>28093462
>incel car
>posts to 4chan looking for validation absent from real life
>highest repair costs, but that's ok because incels don't spend money on women or hanging out with friends anyway
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>>28094363
I miss theater seats in cars.
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>>28100950
I've driven hundreds of miles in a Tesla so this chart is complete bullshit.
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>>28101496
Yeah because realistically tablet niggers take twice as long to achieve one of the 4 given tasks in the test.
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>>28093481
imagine being Ferdinand Piëch
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>>28102849
Dude, that chart is wrong. I've driven over 200 miles non stop in a Tesla.
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>>28102858
Can you elaborate or will you keep repeating the same sentence while sucking Musks tiny penis?
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>>28102862
I stepped in the Tesla, and without leaving the driver's seat or opening any doors or charging, I drove the vehicle for over 200 miles.
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>>28102865
>without opening any doors
how did you get in then
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>>28102866
I was already in the car.
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>>28102849
Takes 0 ms if you use voice commands...
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>>28102880
>be Scottish, Irish or speak a white language
What now? Looks like buttonchads prevail.
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>>28102865
So it took you over 200 miles to perform the following tasks
>Activate the heated seat
>Increase the temperature by 2 degrees
>Start the defroster
>Reset the trip computer
>Lower the instrument lighting to minimum
Damn, tabletfags utterly BTFO
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>>28102865
see
>>28094157
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>>28102904
No, I just drove for over 200 miles.
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>>28102904
Why the fuck is resting the tripometer something anyone ever needs to do while driving?
>need
That's extra retarded. Sounds like they only put that in because they know it was something you could do fast in an old car so it would make the old car "win" by a more significant difference
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>>28102868
In the car?
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>>28102858
200 whole miles? In a row? Holy shit! The future is now!
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>>28102880
What words, in whatever language you use, take <0.0004 seconds to recite and have the car take the appropriate actions, sir?
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>>28095658
Funny you should mention the E39, It was designed by Joji Nagashima.
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>>28103156
kek stay coping
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>>28103142
That's better than those testers.
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>>28103237
you only need to replace the hecking piston ringerinos, chud
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>>28093531
Displays coming out of the dashboard like that piss me off so much is unreal. At least incorporate it into the board, don't just dickslap a screen in the middle of the car you low effort hacks
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>>28103150
I don't think you understood the graph ...
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>>28103453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhFAwFv-O0
no, that's goyota
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>>28093447
I do hate touchscreens specifically. Regular LED screens are fine. But physical buttons and an actual volume knob are always nice.
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>>28093462
>capacitor slider
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>>28104297
I don't think you've had sex . . .
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>>28104803
yeah you really didnt understand the chart lol
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>>28094853
>a single paycheck
>to fix something that breaks once every 5 years at most
I don't see a problem here, Pedro.
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I just got a car a few days ago with temperature control and so far it's alright
it will turn on and off the heated seats and do everything else for me, I don't really need to do anything other than set the temperature
I just need to get over the autistic worry about mpg impact
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>>28093462
I set the climate control in my new 5 series to room temperature when I bought the car, and then never touched it again. It works really well and brokies cannot begin to comprehend it
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>>28093447
fuck off faggot it isn't meant to be a fucking spa salon
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>>28093447
I agree, touchscreens are dated. I'm glad you also think that screens in cars are a legacy system, very outdated.

Verification not required.
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>>28093447
fuck you i hate my touchscreen
it doesn't even control my heaters
i just have to play pin on the tail on the donkey every time i turn my music up or down.
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>>28093960
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY WON'T YOU TALK TO EACH OTHERRRRRRR!!!!!??!?!?
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>>28100125
God, you sound so old fashioned. Why are you using pedals and a steering wheel and not some virtual sliders/buttons 5 menus deep in a touch screen to brake/accelerate/steer?

You would be okay with that, right, since there's no difference in time taken to locate a control or in tactile feedback?
Great.
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>>28106198
why do the sparks on the stick look like someone getting body slammed into the ground while simultaneously being headbutted by another guy, rotated 90 degrees anti clockwise
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>>28093531
barf
>>28093560
E39 supremacy
>>28093584
it pissed me off to an insane degree
>>28093674
right era, terrible execution
>>28095009
that's dogshit
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>>28093453
What Ford is that? Guessing Aussie from RHD and the fact that it looks like it came out of the same designer who did the stupid flat buttons on my Ranger.
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>>28093462
>>28106198
I replied to the wrong post
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>>28106271
>right era, terrible execution
Its the same HVAC controls from the OP image. The OP's photo is from an SR5 mine is a Limited. That weird blob bean shape is pure SOVL.
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Wouldn’t mind screens if they were an actual upgrade and not an excuse to cheap out on manufacturing
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>>28093674
I'm not sure I've ever seen the 4WD controls on buttons like that. Does the 2WD/4HI button pop out when you press 4LO?
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>>28103189
What mad that you found out that a Jap designed the best looking BMW ever designed?

Not the one having an inferiority complex here, I own an E39 and E30.
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>>28107426
Both buttons are out for 2HI. Both buttons in for 4LO. To get to 4LO you need to go into 4HI by pressing that button then come to a complete stop and put the car in neutral then press 4LO. Do the inverse to go back to 2HI.
Lower trim models had a floor mounted shifter like you would expect from an old truck
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>>28107455
Ah I was wondering if it might work that way.
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>>28107436
And yet E39 > any matsuda, goyota, and gayhonda; kek cry pussy
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Seat belt laws were a mistake.
Drinking and driving laws were a mistake.
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>28107471
bot
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As a pilot, im with the luddites on this.
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>28107735
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>>28093447
Because they go out of date very quickly and look cheap on luxury cars?
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>>28093462
Bejitabro btw
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>>28107824
I played too many military and sci-fi flight sims growing up, glass is way more intuitive to me than steam, despite the latter being kino.
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>>28107824
How much porn do you watch while cruising?
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>>28093447
>knob dies
>replace it
>screen dies
>it takes your AC, stereo, and everything else with it
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>>28108248
The Bugatti Veyron does not have digital screens for this very reason.
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>>28093447
Why do faggots want ipads glued to their dash?
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>>28105798
post paycheck
>he wont
there's a reason why 8 year old BMWs arent worth shit, and this is kind of it. useless technology that costs a fortune to repair. imagine looking someone in the eye and telling them you paid over 4k for your heater to work again. retarded. heaters shouldn't break every five years, either, but thats BMW for you
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I think physical buttons are great for not taking your eyes off the road. I know what each button feels like and I know where they are/where I need to reach. Touchscreens don't have good feedback in 90% of cars I've driven.

I like my silly little Hyundai's buttons :))
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>>28093531
GOOD MORNING SAAR! U CUM VISIT JAAGUAR FACTORY IN MUMBAI U FUCK MY WIFE AND LIZARD FREE! VERY GOOD COW DUNG RESTAURANT NEARBY TOO!
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>>28093455
This is such a retarded post and i cant believe that we both consider ourselves "auto enthusiasts"
There is no unique feeling fiddling with plastic knobs you fucking 93 iq retard
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>>28093531
Thats fucking hideous
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>>28093531
>le edgy gloss black
Only pajeets drive cars like these
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I replaced the ancient touch screen in my 2013 tacoma with a chinese android one.
I hate proprietary software from kenwood and pioneer and their stupid companion app bullshit. I hate that you need all this wire harness proprietary bullshit to use fucking steering wheel controls that should be usb. I hate that non touch radios have dedicated alexa or google buttons right in the middle of the damn thing so you're looking at an ad every time you want to hit fast forward.
I fucking hate modern auto infotainment tech.
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FJ Cruiser was the last normal vehicle to have proper analog controls right up until 2023. They never succumbed to the faggy touchscreen meme.
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>>28109811
had a rental mazda recently and it had this stupid tacky black shine all over the interior, as well as the faggy little control nib behind the shifter

dumbest fucking design because the tablet in the dash was a touchscreen, but it only worked for certain apps and features and other stuff required the gay little nib to control it. i genuinely hate all these beta male fags who insisted on cars having all this (((tech))) in them
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screens in cars are fine, floating ipads that control everything aren't.
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>>28109923
The worst is when they have a combination of analog and touch screen. Dumbass Subaru has this, a handful of random buttons to control temperature and front/rear defrost, but vent angle and fan speed are touch screen. Volume is a knob, and there's random media buttons for some stuff that doesn't even interact with the apps on the car.

R E T A R D E D T I M E L I N E
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>>28109934
My truck kinda does that too, vent angle and the thing to switch between single and dual-zone climate are in the screen, but everything else is a button. I've never really used auto climate in the past but I've gotten used to it now because it's too much of a pain to use the screen, especially because I've always got my phone connected with CarPlay and you have to exit out of that to get to the climate screen.

It also "helps" me not need to go into the screen, in an annoying way, by having the weirdest balance ever, when you set the vents to dash+feet it sends like 90% of the air down and barely a trickle comes out of the dash, and living in a warm climate where I almost always have A/C on and rarely ever use the heater that's pretty damn useless for me.
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>>28093609
Oh yeah. Give me this any day.
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>>28094363
Based comfy
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>>28109937
if you try to scroll through songs on Android Auto it spergs out too and freezes for a "SAFETY BREAK"

It sucks that they removed 3.5mm jacks from most phones now, and even a lot of cars don't come with them, so you're stuck using proprietary apps to play music.
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>>28110327
I think that's an app thing, Spotify does it on iOS with CarPlay as well. It also limits how far you can scroll, only like the first 25 songs or so iirc, which is annoying. Still better than trying to do it with a phone in a dash mount though.
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After getting used to automatic climate control, going back to manual sucks now. All I need is a quick and easy way to adjust the temp up or down a few degrees and I'm good.
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>>28109804
niggercattle take



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