Uhhh are you retarded?

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>>28098850
Mk4 TDI engines were all 4 cylinders, and if the rust didn't claim the cars first, those things would go 500,000 plus. The mk6-dieselgate ones can go that far too it looks like, but you have to do some emissions surgery to make it happen.

As far as gas engines, its mostly the Jap brands that manage to hit the 300k mark. You have to remember that the its not typically the engine blowing up that takes a car off the road. Plenty of other things can lead to someone totaling or scrapping a car before its really at the end of its life.

>Transmissions go out much more frequently and cost much more to replace than the engine
>Diesels are more likely to get sold out of state or scrapped if emissions repairs are high and smogging is unavoidable
>Rust eating the frame away
>Huge pile of deferred maintenance on the suspension components make it not worth fixing

Also consider that most cars will not just be owned by a single person during their lifespan. The average time between car purchases for an American is 7 years. Thats usually about 80-90k miles of driving on the car. A used car typically won't break 200k miles until its third owner, at which point the resale value of basically nothing, even if its in good shape. By the time it gets sold/traded at 21 years old / 270k miles, it is considered a beater and probably has a laundry list of small things wrong on top of 1 really big issue thats starting to rear its head.

Those VW diesels from 2003 are still on the road, but only because there are 5 dead ones for every functional one that can serve as parts cars.

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>>28098850
Try a 4 banger that isn't assembled by spics or europoors

>>28098850
My dad's shitty '05 Grand Caravan with the Pentastar V6 made it to 300k miles somehow. It's really down to maintenance and understanding the limitations of the engine. Most fuckhuge V8 trucks don't actually work all that hard most of the time, so they really don't have much load on them at all.

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>>28099045
Find me a prettier girl than Audrey Hepburn.

You can't.

Generally speaking cars get scrapped because repairs and maintenence becomes uneconomic, not because it's not possible. The value plummets and the cars fall in to the hands of poorfags get treated like disposable items.

>>28099045
I have a car with 14 previous owners.
Everything was neglected and I had to rebuild the lower bodypanels all around.
At some point people just stop caring about maintenance and run it into the ground untill it literally stops driving.

Ironically the engine just needed a new vacuum hose and an oil change.
Still going strong.

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>easily does 300k+ in your path

Heh.... nothing personnel scrubs

>>28098850
I’ve seen 4 cylinder accords with over million original miles

>>28098862
Fpbp

>>28098850
There's more to it than just the engine. Cars are unibodied so once rust gets them they're done, especially when it starts attacking structural areas.

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the top 10 highest mileage car records around the world are mostly 4 bangers.

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>>28099101
that was easy

>>28100355
>service twice a month
Even if it's just an oil change he can push it for 2-3 months.

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>>28100355
https://www.everlance.com/blog/10-highest-mileage-vehicles
not even close. and even most of the 4 cylinders on this list had their engines rebuilt multiple times.

>>28098850
VAG 1.9tdi's (especially old audis since they barley rust)
BMW i6's
old Mercs with either i4, i5 or i6 engines
all known for rust just because their engines outlast their bodies

>>28100313
>Cars are unibodied so once rust gets them they're done, especially when it starts attacking structural areas

In Arizona we know not of this rust thing you speak of.

>>28100512
whoop de do for you. we don't all live in Arizona, some of us live in places like Ohio where road salt exists.

>>28100502
There has been about 150,000 hours that have passed since 2007 which means that this truck has averaged almost 12 mph for its entire life.

we do use road salt in a good deal of EU cunts as well so rust is thing here

>>28098850
>how come theres barely any 4 cyl car with very high mileage
literally any volvo or saab from the 80s and earlier

Salt is fucking evil, dude. No amount of undercoating will save you. Salt laughs at zinc or cadmium coatings. Nothing can survive more than like 4 winters in Wisconsin before crumbling to a pile of iron oxide dust. Them who lives in Texas or Arizona will never know the horror. Them who lives in Texas or Arizona may regularly encounter 80s Japanese metal when it's just a fairy tale in the Midwest.

>>28100566
>No amount of undercoating will save you
Undercoating is garbage regardless of where you live. The moment one small area delaminates it begins to collect water in a rubberized pocket where it can't evaporate, constantly eroding the metal away for years and years. Remove that shit.

>>28100566
yeah i guess we don't know how fortunate we are in Georgia where 30 year old cars and trucks in near-spotless condition can be found, only problem is that sometimes interior parts can get melted or otherwise damaged from the intense Southern sun.

Michigan is where most of the road salt in the US is manufactured so it's ground zero for the plague. Salt damage actually is a major environmental crisis there as it seeps into the water and soil.

>>28099045
VW also has a strong modding culture and keep their cars well maintained.

wish they'd just fucking ban road salt already. i'm cynical enough to believe car manufacturers are in bed with salt manufacturers so your vehicles are destroyed quickly and you have to buy new ones so they get more sales.

You can only get 25k miles per cylinder. It’s a law of nature

>>28098850
>prius
>camry
>corolla
>accord
>civic
>fit

all can hit 300k miles

>>28100502
The top 3 cars from that list all have their original powertrains. Also trucks don't count (because most were 6/8 cylinder in the olden days), especially 3/4 tons (which are exclusively 6/8 cylinder still).

>>28098850
More cylinders is less shock and vibration.

Lots of 300k milers in euro diesels. Also got one petrol saab that has done it.

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>>28100566
The brown color is surface oxide that naturally forms from steel reacting to air. It's harmless and in fact protects the metal from further oxidation. Salt water however will just eat through it like battery acid which is what undercoatings are designed to prevent.

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Heh, a TDI barely broken in

>>28101587
>The top 3 cars from that list all have their original powertrains
they don't. the volvo guy admitted to rebuilding the engine multiple times, so did the Merc.
>Also trucks don't count
try reading the OP again, retard.

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>>28103138
Are you pretending to be retarded you dumb mongoloid?
>the volvo guy admitted to rebuilding the engine multiple times
It's called maintenance, still the original block and transmission. Lets see you drive a 60's car with 3+ million miles nigger faggot.
>so did the Merc
Source? Mercedes validated the originality of the car themselves you shitskin.
>try reading the OP again, retard.
Maybe you should read my post again and think twice before you post garbage you gorilla faggot
The reason why OP (another faggot) is seeing mostly v8 truck with 300k+ miles is because:
-lives in a location with mostly trucks (some redneck shithole)
-trucks are used as work vehicles (high mileage shit)
-they used to (still do) come with big engines (like v8s)
Now fuck off.

>>28103458
>rebuilding the engine is called maintenance
kek, maybe for euroshit.
>Source?
https://www.topspeed.com/highest-mileage-mercedes-in-the-world-in-2024/
>The 2.4-liter inline-four W115 engine in the 240D does not usually make it to many lists of the most reliable and hardy engines out there, so we are not surprised that an engine change or two was in order
>Maybe you should read my post again
this isn't your thread, nigger. the other guy tried to argue that 4 cylinders make up most of the highest mileage cars. this is false. and now you're just coping about being wrong.

>>28103498
>kek, maybe for euroshit.
The highest mileage american car in the list you posted is the 1963 Plymouth Fury
https://www.allpar.com/threads/joseph-vaillancourt%E2%80%99s-1-6-million-mile-plymouth-fury.237299/
>That car went through at least five or six 225 slant six engines. The "TorqueFlite" transmission, by 1991, had only been opened once.
KEK
>does not usually make it to many lists of the most reliable and hardy engines out there
That's your source? KEK
>Some random american digital auto publication has never heard of a random 4 cylinder euro diesel engine, so it's not le reliable.
KEK
>so we are not surprised that an engine change or two was in order
Nice, now we are making shit up. LMAO
>the other guy tried to argue that 4 cylinders make up most of the highest mileage cars
That was me you dumb ass, and yes they do (top 3 are all 4 cylinder engines and if you exclude trucks (all the trucks in the list are 1/2 or 3/4, they never had 4 cylinder engine options + the crown vic), they are the majority.

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>>28103628
the highest mileage american car literally BTFO anything european>>28100502
>T-that's not a source! its just made up!
the "It doesn't count" cope.
>and yes they do
Not without rebuilds. meanwhile
Here's a Vic
>over one million miles no rebuilds
https://www.motortrend.com/features/sucp-0807-1970-ss350-camaro/
Camaro
>over one million miles no rebuilds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYUZOlclSo
And Lincoln
>over one million miles no rebuilds

>>28103854
>the highest mileage american car literally BTFO anything european
-less miles than the mercedes taxi KEK
-it's not even on the top 10 list you posted KEK
-3/4 truck is not a "car" you ugly shitskin KEK
Think about it, a bottom barrel mercedes with a 4 banger diesel used as a taxi vehicles has MOGGED your UAW built FCA slop KEK.
>The 58 year old volvo doesn't count because he replaced some wear items after driving for 3+ million miles, and didn't do only oil changes like the average american.
Post your 3+ million mile 60's american CAR with the original powertrain with only oil/filter changes KEK.
>the "It doesn't count" cope.
Speculative statements from random automotive websites, like 'he probably replaced the engine a couple of times,' is not evidence, you dumb mexican.
>here is some one million mile garbage
Did you forget that we were talking about the top 10 highest mileage cars you inbred retard?
I can also post some million mile accords, a bmw 325i, a saab, etc., but their not in the TOP 10.

>>28103976
>-less miles than the mercedes taxi KEK
the car with the rebuilt engine? lol
>-it's not even on the top 10 list you posted KEK
irrelevant. they still exist.
>-3/4 truck is not a "car"
so you're saying most of the highest mileages vehicles are in fact, not 4 cylinders like you said, but trucks like the OP said? thanks for admitting you're wrong, dumb nigger.
>The 58 year old volvo doesn't count because he replaced some wear items
>the entire engine is a wear item
maybe for euroshit "cars".
>Speculative statements
like the speculative statements about your euroshit engines being just mere wear items? or the speculative statement that most high mileage vehicles are 4 cylinders which is false?
>Did you forget that we were talking about the top 10 highest mileage cars
yea, without rebuilds. so your rebuilt euroshit doesn't count.
>I can also post some million mile accords, a bmw 325i, a saab, etc
>but their not in the TOP 10.
they also won't be higher mileage than the cars i just posted.

thanks for admitting 4 cylinder shit does not make up the majority of high mileage vehicles, though. you were wrong and still coping about it.

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>literally a million mile club for an american engine
kek they didn't need rebuilds, either. where's the million mile club for 4 cylinder shit?

>>28104023
>the car with the rebuilt engine?
Source nigger faggot? KEK.
Also that was suppose be the volvo, your confusing your cars (low iq). The mercedes has the original powertrain, confirmed by mercedes ;)
>irrelevant. they still exist.
Except it is relevant, because that was the website YOU posted. Maybe the website doesn't consider your ugly piece of shit truck relevant KEK.
>so you're saying most of the highest mileages vehicles are in fact, not 4 cylinders like you said, but trucks like the OP said?
What the fuck are you talking about you retarded baboon? Are you blind? Can you read? The fact you think a car is built to the same standards as a truck, let alone a 3/4 truck is delusional retard speak. The top 3 highest mileage cars are all 4 cylinder engines (including trucks), that's why I wrote this to you, you dirty indian KEK.
>Think about it, a bottom barrel mercedes with a 4 banger diesel used as a taxi vehicles has MOGGED your UAW built FCA slop KEK.
>the entire engine is a wear item
>maybe for euroshit "cars".
Except the engine wasn't replaced, after driving a 50+ year old car for 3+ million miles, you are bound to replace some shit, the engine block and transmission are all original. Still waiting for a 60's american car that can match that ;)
>like the speculative statements about your euroshit engines being just mere wear items? or the speculative statement that most high mileage vehicles are 4 cylinders which is false?
Facts don't care about your feeling libtard KEK.
You still haven't proven anything, except that you are an inbred mongoloid KEK.
>they also won't be higher mileage than the cars i just posted.
>posts cars not in the top 10
>my 1,100,000 mile nigger car is better than your 1,099,999 mile car.
Low iq nigger faggot KEK.
>thanks for admitting 4 cylinder shit does not make up the majority of high mileage vehicles, though. you were wrong and still coping about it.
Sorry tranny, you lost, it's time to dilate ;).

>>28104045
>He posts the same exact pictures every time these threads are made like a bot and then gets blow the fuck out like a tranny nigger faggot.
KEK
>His garbage needs a "club" to showcase that their nigger garbage is actually "le good".
KEK
How do we know those powertrains are all original KEK?
Still less miles than a 60's volvo coupe KEK.
Still not in the top 10 list, must be fake and gay KEK.

>>28104154
>Source
yea, the same one that made you asshurt that you dismissed because euroshit can do no wrong.
>The mercedes has the original powertrain, confirmed by mercedes
nope, neither of them do.
>What the fuck are you talking about
your retarded and false claim about most of the highest mileage cars being 4 cylinders (they aren't).
>The fact you think a car is built to the same standards as a truck
they are if they don't have a shitty 4 cylinder. what is the difference between a small block in a body on frame truck, and a small block in a body on frame car.
>The top 3 highest mileage cars are all 4 cylinder engines (including trucks), that's why I wrote this
yea, and its retarded and wrong.
>a bottom barrel mercedes with a 4 banger diesel used as a taxi vehicles has MOGGED your UAW built FCA slop
just needed a rebuild along the way. like most euroshit would.
>Except the engine wasn't replaced
my bad, just everything but the block. so essentially the entire fucking engine.
>Still waiting for a 60's american car that can match that
still waiting for 3 million mile euroshit with no rebuilds like>>28104045
>Facts don't care about your feeling
i agree, the fact that the merc was rebuilt doesn't care about your feelings.
>You still haven't proven anything
I just did, but you coped and said "doesn't count".
>my 1,100,000 mile car (no rebuilds) is better than your 1,099,999 KILO METRE euroshit
correct.

>>28104156
god damn you're absolutely seething at europe's inability to build a long lasting engine without rebuilds.

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>>28104179
>yea, the same one that made you asshurt that you dismissed because euroshit can do no wrong.
The website you linked speculated that the mercedes had it's engine replaced multiple times without giving any sources, and just saying "well how else is it going to achieve this millage". That's not evidence. It's called cope.
>your retarded and false claim about most of the highest mileage cars being 4 cylinders (they aren't).
Yes they are, and again my original post was about the top 10 highest mileage cars, not top 100 or top 1000. Stop making shit up you retard.
>they are if they don't have a shitty 4 cylinder.
Plenty of euro/jap compact/mid-size truck have 4 cylinder engines. In the future all american mid/full-size trucks will also be the same.
>what is the difference between a small block in a body on frame truck, and a small block in a body on frame car.
Dumb question, they are all trucks. America doesn't build cars this way anymore, only trucks.
>just needed a rebuild along the way. like most euroshit would.
We don't know if the 3+ million mile rams you posted didn't also get a rebuild of some kind.
>my bad, just everything but the block. so essentially the entire fucking engine.
There were probably other components that are still original, it's a 58 year old car with 3+ million miles for fuck sake you retard. None of the trucks you posted are in any similar age.
>still waiting for 3 million mile euroshit with no rebuilds like>>28104045
Again, can you prove that they had no rebuilds? It was just engines oil/filter and brakes right?
>i agree, the fact that the merc was rebuilt doesn't care about your feelings.
You are still confusing your cars.
>I just did, but you coped and said "doesn't count".
You have to actually show evidence not hearsay shit.
>my 1,100,000 mile car (no rebuilds) is better than your 1,099,999 KILO METRE euroshit
All those were in miles. Stop making shit up.

>>28104330
>The website you linked speculated that the mercedes had it's engine replaced multiple times
they're not speculating, they're going off other
reports that it had its engine replaced.
https://highmileclub.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/gregorios-sachinidis-and-his-2-85-million-mile-mercedes/
Here's another, so no one seems to believe it was on its original engine but you.
>Yes they are
they aren't, because rebuilt engines don't count, and i've posted higher mileage cars than even the vulva.
>Plenty of euro/jap compact/mid-size truck have 4 cylinder engines
how many of them reach millions of miles?
>In the future all american mid/full-size trucks will also be the same.
they will be less reliable, too, sadly.
>they are all trucks. America doesn't build cars this way anymore
a small block is going to magically be less reliable if its installed in a car instead of a truck? you don't even have a distinction to draw. the car's body construction makes no difference to the engine.
>We don't know if the 3+ million mile rams you posted didn't also get a rebuild of some kind.
this>>28100502 one definitely didn't, and its higher mileage than any poor cylinder without rebuilds.
>You are still confusing your cars.
I'm not, both the merc and vulva had rebuilt engines.
>You have to actually show evidence
you're going to cope with whatever i find, and say its not real, even though no one seems to believe these cars were on their original engines.
>that pic
the BMW is a 6 cylinder, so not even a poor cylinder.
https://news.porschesilverspring.com/article/california-man-million-mile-1964-porsche-356c
the Porsche had a rebuilt engine twice.

>>28104386
>they're going off other reports that it had its engine replaced.
Can you link me those reports?
>Here's another, so no one seems to believe it was on its original engine but you.
That's a blog site that just repeats shit from other websites or makes shit up. Their not a credible source you mongoloid.
>they aren't, because rebuilt engines don't count
If rebuild engines didn't count, then why are these cars on these lists, and not the shit you posted? The website you originally linked (top 10) didn't mention the mercedes/volvo having a rebuild/engine swapped, but other cars do get mentioned? Sure is weird. There is no set standard here. Your just mad that nobody cares about your definition of a high mileage car. KEK
>how many of them reach millions of miles?
Most people don't drive/use pick trucks in europe/japan the same way americans use them. It's not apples to apples.
>they will be less reliable, too, sadly.
Ah, yes because gm, ford, dodge, cummins, etc, never made bad 6/8 cylinder engines in the past, fucking retard.
>a small block is going to magically be less reliable if its installed in a car instead of a truck?
When did i say that you retarded kike, i said americans don't build "cars" this way anymore. Also show me where you can buy a cummins engine in a car, like the volvo/mercedes.
>this>>28100502 one definitely didn't
I said 3+ million you blind dishonest faggot, you know the ones you keep posting KEK.
>and its higher mileage than any poor cylinder without rebuilds.
>His work truck got shit on by a teacher and a greek taxi driver.
KEK
>I'm not, both the merc and vulva had rebuilt engines.
Maintenance is hard for mexicans i know KEK.
>even though no one seems to believe these cars were on their original engines.
You mean one random american website and a blog faggot KEK.
>the Porsche had a rebuilt engine twice.
>Another 60 year old car gets maintenance.
Still waiting on that 3+ million mile 60's american car with everything stock.

>>28099045
Your retarded if you think some pos VAGshit is getting anything over 80k miles lmao

>>28105532
>Can you link me those reports?
Just did.
>That's a blog site
Here comes that cope.
>If rebuild engines didn't count, then why are these cars on these lists
because they're going by highest mileage "car" not highest mileage "engine", you retard nigger.
>The website you originally linked (top 10) didn't mention the mercedes/volvo having a rebuild/engine swapped
Well, they did. the volvo owner even has a youtube video where he says so himself.
>There is no set standard here.
Yea, i just set one. cars with no engine rebuilds. you're arguing with the arbitrary "list" at this point, not me.
>When did i say that
so you're admitting there is no difference? so when i post a truck with a small block V8 with high mileage, it could very easily just be a car. it makes no difference to the engine.
>i said americans don't build "cars" this way anymore
they don't build cars with small blocks? pretty sure they do.
>Also show me where you can buy a cummins engine in a car
You can swap one in yourself. is the engine going to be less reliable because its in a car?
>I said 3+ million
its not 3 million for the engine, just the "car" itself. because the engine was rebuilt.
>yes because gm, ford, dodge, cummins, etc, never made bad 6/8 cylinder engines in the past
No, but they've made vastly superior engines to euroshit, and still do.
>haha! i shit on you by rebuilding my euroshit mobile that can't last
lol
>Maintenance is hard for mexicans
Building long lasting engines is hard for Eurabians.
>You mean one random american website and a blog
>you're going to cope with whatever i find, and say its not real
Yep, you did that right on cue.
>Another 60 year old car gets maintenance.
euroshit mobiles need rebuilds no matter how new they are. also, the Camaro i linked here>>28103854
, has a 60s era engine, and no rebuilds

Get fucked.

>Just did.
You linked websites that claim some reports, but no links to them.
>Here comes that cope.
It's 'cope" when you can't prove shit?
>because they're going by highest mileage "car" not highest mileage "engine", you retard nigger.
How is that relevant you tranny faggot. Your gay sex toy trucks are not on the list.
>Well, they did.
No they didn't
>the volvo owner even has a youtube video where he says so himself..
I never said he didn't do it.
>Yea, i just set one.
So the mercedes wins, glad we can come to an agreement ;)
>so you're admitting there is no difference? so when i post a truck with a small block V8 with high mileage, it could very easily just be a car. it makes no difference to the engine.
Have you ever heard the term "truck engine". That's what those are. They are not comparable to non truck engines.
>they don't build cars with small blocks? pretty sure they do.
Other than the stingray, you don't have regular cars that come with that shit.
>You can swap one in yourself.
So you can't buy one, got it KEK.
>its not 3 million for the engine, just the "car" itself. because the engine was rebuilt.
Again, that's just maintenance on a 50+ year old car with 3+ million miles.
>but the camaro
The camaro doesn't have 3+ million miles.
>No, but they've made vastly superior engines to euroshit, and still do.
Is that why everybody around the world buys american cars and think "ah yes truly superior engine" KEK.
>haha! i shit on you by rebuilding my euroshit mobile that can't last
You are seething so hard right now KEK.
>Building long lasting engines is hard for Eurabians.
>Meximutt calls his ancestors arabians.
Typical KEK.
>Yep, you did that right on cue.
>NO, HOW DARE YOU ASK ME FOR A VALID SOURCE WAHHHHHHHH
KEK
>Camaro i linked here>>28103854, has a 60s era engine, and no rebuilds
>Has a truck engine.
KEK
>Has less miles than the 4 banger mercedes.
KEK
>Get fucked.
>Is obsessed with "cum" branded trucks.
Sorry tranny, you lost again, it's time to dilate ;).

>>28105651
>You linked websites that claim some reports
yea, and i showed you one. allow me to link it for you again
https://highmileclub.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/gregorios-sachinidis-and-his-2-85-million-mile-mercedes/
>It's 'cope" when you can't prove shit?
Yes, you can't prove your shitbox had its original engine the whole time. so you're coping.
>How is that relevant
Cause you said the highest mileage cars are 4 cylinders when they aren't.
>No they didn't
Yea they did. no one believes either of those cars are on their original engine.
>I never said he didn't do it.
you did here>>28104154
>So the mercedes wins
They don't. they have less mileage than the 3 million mile RAM, that's with them doing multiple rebuilds.
>Have you ever heard the term "truck engine"
yes, its meaningless gibberish.
>They are not comparable to non truck engines.
Probably shouldn't have hopped in this thread saying the most reliable cars are 4 cylinders, then. cause they aren't.
>So you can't buy one
Yea you can. buy one that's already swapped, dumbass.
>Again, euroshit engines are a wear item
that's great, but it still doesn't count as a 3 million mile engine. just a 3 million mile car.
>The camaro doesn't have 3+ million miles.
Neither does the volvo's engine.
>Is that why everybody around the world buys american cars and think "ah yes truly superior engine"
is that why they last longer than anything european regardless of what you think?
>You are seething so hard right now KEK.
i'm not seething at europe needing to rebuild their engines. i'm laughing at it.
>Meximutt calls his ancestors arabians.
modern day europeans are not my ancestors?
>Has a truck engine.
"meaningless gibberish"
>Has less miles than the 4 banger mercedes.
not on its engine. since the Merc went through multiple.

>>28098862
this.
cars with the most kilometers so far:
>volvo p1800 (i4 gasoline)
2nd in place:
>merc 240D (i4 diesel)

why did they win?
low power densities.

why did OP type this beside being a faggot?
because US low power density v8.

>>28105862
>cars with rebuilt engines

>>28105818
>yea, and i showed you one.
Where did the blog faggot get that information from you low iq shitskin KEK? Why can't you show me anything else?
>Yes, you can't prove your shitbox had its original engine the whole time. so you're coping.
See >>28103458
>Cause you said the highest mileage cars are 4 cylinders when they aren't.
And yet the the top 3 highest mileage cars have 4 cylinder engines kek.
>Yea they did. no one believes either of those cars are on their original engine.
I said the website you linked didn't mention the top 2 cars had any rebuilds, retarded faggot KEK.
>you did here>>28104154 (You)
I said the mercedes, not the volvo, not my problem you can't read KEK.
>they have less mileage than the 3 million mile RAM.
1. No list out there mentions your 3+ million rams, they might as well not exist KEK.
2. You still can't prove them having the original powertrain, unlike the mercedes which i already did.
>yes, its meaningless gibberish.
Not really, your just delusional.
>shouldn't have hopped in this thread saying the most reliable cars are 4 cylinders
Top 3 baby ;)
>Yea you can. buy one that's already swapped, dumbass.
1. And deal with somebody else's project car, no thank you.
2. There is a reason why auto manufacturers don't sell that shit. Nobody want's a 3/4 truck diesel engine in a regular car, it's slow, ugly and gay KEK.
>but it still doesn't count as a 3 million mile engine.
No american CAR has a comparable CAR engine to that you faggot.
>they last longer than anything european regardless of what you think?
Stereotypes don't come from nowhere retard. Nobody want's american shit, get over it.
>i'm not seething at europe needing to rebuild their engines. i'm laughing at it.
Then why are you still responding to me like a seething tranny faggot KEK.
>modern day europeans are not my ancestors?
Why did you call them "Eurabians" then KEK?
>"meaningless gibberish"
See above KEK.
>not on its engine. since the Merc went through multiple.
See above KEK.

>>28107251
>Where did the blog faggot get that information from
from everyone else who;s reporting on it not having its original engine.
>Why can't you show me anything else?
Cause you'll just say the same shit and dismiss it. why bother. no one believes that piece of shit had its original engine but you.
>See >>28103458
Nothing in that image says anything about it having its original engine. congrats on proving nothing other than the "mileage" being on the odometer. which is all they verified.
>And yet the the top 3 highest mileage cars have 4 cylinder engines kek.
yea, they just had to go through multiple of them. not really what i'm talking about.
>I said the website you linked didn't mention the top 2 cars had any rebuilds
And they do.
>I said the mercedes, not the volvo
No, you implied volvo, too.
>No list out there mentions your 3+ million rams
Okay, it still exist.
>You still can't prove them having the original powertrain
this one>>28100502 does, and its higher mileage than any poor cylinder and euroshit on its original engine.
>Not really,
Yea, really. a small block isn't built any different from any other engine. its secret is that it revs low and is often made of iron. there are 4 cylinders just like this. nothing makes it a "truck" engine.
>Top 3 baby ;)
in rebuilds?
>No american CAR has a comparable CAR engine to that
no american car has a comparable car engine to an archaic shitbox engine? they do. the small block is one of them. its found in all kinds of shitboxes. and its archaic like the volvo engine.
>Stereotypes don't come from nowhere
Yea, like the stereotype that euroshit doesn't last, and why american cars are typically older and on the road longer than euroshit, too. the average car in america is older than the average car in europe.
>Why did you call them "Eurabians"
Cause that's what they are?

kek 4cylinderlets are fucking insane goddamn

>>28098850
The reason trucks last the longest is durable body on frame designs that don’t get easily wrecked. On top of often having unstressed big engines.

A 1993 Honda Civic may have a power train that is just as reliable as any truck out there, but good luck driving it a million miles without it getting totaled in a car accident.

>>28098850
My old D-21 Hardbody made it to 450k miles before Michigan rust claimed it. Engine still ran too, sold it to a guy restoring a 240sx. That little KA24E too fucking reliable and it was a SLOW piece of shit. I literally tried to kill it by not changing the timing chain and the most it ever did was rattle a little on startup. Pretty sure the rings were sized too because it would burn oil like a motherfucker the last couple years I drove it. But it ran no matter how much I abused it.

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>>28105539
If you don't believe me, go talk to Fred.

At this point the only ones with less than 80k are the ones that got crushed by a semi truck before the diesel gate buyback program dripfed them back onto the used market. The common rail TDIs (09-15) are more powerful than the ALH and BEW engines from 1998-2006 but the newer emissions hardware kills them. It remains to be seen how long these will go once they get deleted. The ALH cars are absolute tanks, as long as its manual, it will go until it's put into the crusher. It says something that the BEW engines were considered a step back in reliability because they need cams every 250-300k miles... Hell, that era of gas powered VAG engines was also probably their best too. 5 cylinder though, so they don't really count for this thread.

VAG engineers make some wildly dumb choices sometimes (plastic vacuum connections, not being able to make a sunroof that seals), but I don't get where this belief comes from that all of their cars are heaping piles of trash that explode. People whine about these cars throwing codes and having limp mode, but forget that dropping into limp mode is probably what is saving the car.

>>28107982
>from everyone else who;s reporting on it not having its original engine.
A blog and a random auto publishing website is not "everybody" you delusion spic. Show me where they got that info from.
>Cause you'll just say the same shit and dismiss it. why bother.
Nice cope faggot KEK
>yea, they just had to go through multiple of them.
Not the mercedes or the 3rd place volvo.
>And they do.
Really? Show me where the top 10 website you linked said that.
>No, you implied volvo, too.
Nope, your just retarded KEK.
>Okay, it still exist.
Then why aren't they on any list? You can't even find them on your blog sites "hall of fame" KEK. Proof that there are all original? You can't even show me a picture of them KEK.
>this one>>28100502 does, and its higher mileage than any poor cylinder and euroshit on its original engine.
I'm sorry your gay truck got humiliated KEK.
>Yea, really. a small block isn't built any different from any other engine.
God you are retarded. All the rams you posted are not "small blocks".
>its secret is that it revs low and is often made of iron. there are 4 cylinders just like this.
>Ignores the most crucial design aspect of the engine itself.
>Thinks that a OHC 4 cylinder gas engine in a car has the same redline as a OHV engine in a truck.
KEK
>in rebuilds?
See above KEK.
>no american car has a comparable car engine to an archaic shitbox engine?
And yet you can't post one from the same era with the same mileage KEK.
>Yea, like the stereotype that euroshit doesn't last
That's only in american ;)
>and why american cars are typically older and on the road longer than euroshit
Western euros change their cars mostly, because of emission (guess where they go). Eastern europe is filled with 20+ year old euro cars.
>the average car in america is older than the average car in europe
See above.
>Cause that's what they are?
Sorry, their white unlike you ;)

>>28102391
Rust ain't protecting anything
PB ratios n shiiiet

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>>28109047
>random blog
Its more than the one retard who believes its on its original engine, which is only (You).
>Not the mercedes or the 3rd place volvo.
Yes, the mercedes and the third volvo.
https://carbuzz.com/features/highest-mileage-cars/
>although it had its engine replaced three times, first at 400,000 miles, then after another 620,000 miles, and finally after a further 466,000 miles.
Euroshit mobiles, not even once.
>Really?
Yea, you just got links for all 3 that had their engines replaced at some point.
>Nope
yep, you're just retarded and back pedaled after claiming it as "regular maintenance".
>Then why aren't they on any list?
They are, its on the million mile club cummins list.
>Proof that there are all original?
Says so in its own dedicated article
>You can't even show me a picture of them
nigger, did you not see>>28100502 ???
>your gay truck got humiliated
yea, you absolutely humiliated it in the engine rebuild contest. bravo.
>All the rams you posted are not "small blocks".
I posted a camaro from 1970 that made it to a million on its original engine and you called it a "truck" engine. but i can also post tons of chevy trucks that made it to a million, too. all on their original engines.
>Thinks OHC 4 cylinder gas engine in a car has the same redline as a OHV engine in a truck.
a lot of the old shitty SOHC 4 cylinders like the volvo redblock don't rev much higher than pushrod small blocks. also, OHC engines are supposed to be MORE reliable, so the fact that they rev slightly higher at most on average doesn't make a difference.
>And yet you can't post one from the same era with the same mileage
just did, the 1970 Camaro. (inb4 not 3 million) the vovlvo never even got to 3 mill on its original engine anyway.
>That's only in american
must be why they are rebuilding them so much IN YUROP.
>Eastern europe is filled with 20+ year old euro cars.
*citation needed*
>their white unlike you
If their grasp of english is as good as yours, i don't think so.

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>Its more than the one retard who believes its on its original engine, which is only (You).
>I can't prove shit, but it helps me cope, so it's le valid.
KEK
>Yes, the mercedes and the third volvo.
I'm talking about the website you originally linked you disingenuous faggot.
>although it had its engine replaced three times
Source?
>Yea, you just got links for all 3 that had their engines replaced.
The new link you posted didn't even mention anything on the merc. Your shit isn't even consistent KEK.
>yep, you're just retarded and back pedaled after claiming it as "regular maintenance".
>Still can't post a similar car from the same era with the same mileage.
KEK
>They are, its on the million mile club cummins list.
Can i see that list?
>Says so in its own dedicated article
The articles says "vehicles" that have that mileage on their odometers, not their powertrains.
>nigger, did you not see>>28100502 ???
I'm talking about you gay 3+ million mile ram you blind spic.
>yea, you absolutely humiliated it in the engine rebuild contest.
Cope KEK.
>I posted a camaro from 1970 that made it to a million on its original engine and you called it a "truck" engine.
Yes
>but i can also post tons of chevy trucks that made it to a million, too.
How is this relevant? Are they as old as the volvo/camaro? Do they have more mileage then them?
>a lot of the old shitty SOHC 4 cylinders like the volvo redblock don't rev much higher.
Even if it's a little more it matters after millions of miles.
>OHC engines are supposed to be MORE reliable
It depends, it's not so clear cut like you think.
>just did, the 1970 Camaro. (inb4 not 3 million) the vovlvo never even got to 3 mill on its original engine anyway.
Truck engine cope KEK.
>must be why they are rebuilding them so much IN YUROP.
>We definitely have no problems with our shit.
KEK
>*citation needed*
Sure
>If their grasp of english is as good as yours, i don't think so.
>YOUR ENGLISH BAD.
>NOT WHITE IF FROM EUROPE.
Seething shitskin KEK.

>>28109274
>>I can't prove shit
That's you. you keep asking for proof about the 3 million mile ram, yet you can't even prove your 2 million mile nigcedes had its original engine.
>I'm talking about the website
and i'm talking about the actual evidence i just posted that they do. it would be one thing if the website contradicted the evidence i linked, but it doesn't say one way or the other. it just says "cars" with (insert mileage here), not engines.
>Source?
I just linked it.
>The new link you posted didn't even mention anything on the merc.
so its not contradicting anything since its not saying its original.
websites don't. but we know it does.
>same era with the same mileage.
already did. the Camaro. one million miles no rebuilds.
>Can i see that list?
i already showed an image of it here>>28104045
>I'm talking about you gay 3+ million mile ram
I already posted a ram that did higher mileage without rebuilds than anything european.
>calling a camaro engine a truck engine
>Yes
so you see why "truck engine" doesn't actually mean anything?
>How is this relevant?
Cause you claim i only posted rams, there's tons of small blocks out there with over a million miles, too. these engines are no different than any other shitbox engine. just more cylinders and displacement.
>Are they as old as the volvo/camaro?
Probably, the 350 did not improve very much in the 70s. if anything, they would've gotten worse and harder to keep running. the volvo doesn't even have 3 million miles on its engine.
>Even if it's a little more it matters after millions of miles.
Hardly. none of these guys are redlining these vehicles. all these old fucks drive well below redline, under the speed limit.
>Truck engine
meaningless gibberish.
>We definitely have no problems with our shit.
apparently much less problems than eurabians and their most famous million milers having so many rebuilds.
>don't make fun of my nigger tier english!!! i'm from yurop!!!
seething nigger.

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>>28109274
in regards to the average age of european cars, most sources claim much younger years than your single article. in order for what your article is saying to make any sense, the average european car in eastern europe would be from the late 80s to early 90s in 2021, and if you look at any eastern european street, even outside of metropolitan areas, that is not at all the case.

Further more, american cars from the 60s are still driving around all throughout Cuba.
>"but they probably just replace all the parts on them!"
and you don't think eastern euroshits are doing the same?

>>28098850
theres probably a load of old 1.9 tdi vws and turbodiesel w123/124s driving around as taxis with millions of km in the balkans or greece

>>28109380
>yet you can't even prove your 2 million mile nigcedes had its original engine.
You haven't proven anything faggot KEK. I asked you, where did these website get their sources from? You still can't answer that question KEK.
>and i'm talking about the actual evidence i just posted that they do.
>actual evidence
Next KEK.
>it would be one thing if the website contradicted the evidence i linked, but it doesn't say one way or the other.
Nice cope KEK.
>I just linked it.
See above KEK.
>so its not contradicting anything since its not saying its original.
See above KEK.
>already did. the Camaro. one million miles no rebuilds.
>Truck engine.
KEK
>i already showed an image of it here>>28104045
That's not a list. Show me one like the ones you keep posting.
>I already posted a ram that did higher mileage without rebuilds than anything european.
Less miles than the merc mate.
>so you see why "truck engine" doesn't actually mean anything?
I'm not doing your homework again. Reread the thread faggot.
>Cause you claim i only posted rams, there's tons of small blocks out there with over a million miles, too.
I also posted million mile cars too faggot. Still less than the merc.
>these engines are no different than any other shitbox engine.
Reread the thread.
>Hardly. none of these guys are redlining these vehicles. all these old fucks drive well below redline, under the speed limit.
1. You don't know that.
2. At the same rpms 4 cylinder engines experience much higher mechanical load per cylinder compared to 6/8 cylinder ones, because they have fewer cylinders to share the workload, so each cylinder must do more work.
>meaningless gibberish.
See above KEK.
>apparently much less problems than eurabians and their most famous million milers having so many rebuilds.
Only (You) think that spic faggot kek.
>seething nigger.
The one seething here is you, tranny.
YWNBW

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>>28109382
>most sources claim much younger years than your single article.
You mean older articles like the one you posted? Mine comes from the european transport research review. There are also plenty of europeans that have already agreed with me on this topic in this thread.
>and if you look at any eastern european street, even outside of metropolitan areas, that is not at all the case.
>I watched some yt videos.
Nobody cares.
>Further more, american cars from the 60s are still driving around all throughout Cuba.
You really wanna use Cuba as an example? None of those american cars from cuba have their original powertrains, Many vehicles in Cuba are hybrids of different brands and models. For example, it’s not unusual to see an old chevy running with a lada engine (they also have a lot of soviet cars), but that's because they got no other options.
>and you don't think eastern euroshits are doing the same?
Most EE cars are still running their original powertrains, but maybe not original turbo and other shit like that. Now stop seething about white people you ugly nigger faggot.

When 4 cyl TDI has done 300k mi it has merely drank 6000 gallons of diesel. You can't win, gaysoline fags.

>>28110932
>You haven't proven anything
other than the cars i linked not having rebuilds, while you can't do the same for your merc.
>actual evidence
yea, such as the proof of no rebuilds i posted that is absent from yours.
>That's not a list
so reformat it yourself so it is. it is a collection of engines with millions of miles on it. and they even held up the highest one with 3 million miles. its no different than a list other than how its formatted. its a collection of items verified to have reached a million miles.
>Less miles than the merc
Less rebuilds than the merc, too (zero).
>I'm not doing your homework again
You didn't even do your own homework. your rational for something being a "truck" engine is arbitrary.
>I also posted million mile cars
with no mention of original components, unlike mine.
>Reread the thread.
Type something that isn't insipid drivel.
>You don't know that.
burden of proof is on you that they're redlining them. old fucks drive much less aggressively and slower, this is proven.
>At the same rpms 4 cylinder engines experience much higher mechanical load
they're pulling far less weight being in a shitbox than a truck that weighs twice as much. they're experiencing less load.
>Only (You) think that
Apparently your 3 million mile volvo guy does, too. as he has admitted with his own mouth that he rebuilds his shitbox.

>>28110936
>You mean older articles like the one you posted?
https://www.faistgroup.com/news/europe-average-vehicles-lifespan/#:~:text=According%20to%20ACEA%2C%20there%20are,in%20Estonia%20and%20Greece%2C%20respectively.
2024 article mirroring the same thing.
>There are also plenty of europeans that have already agreed with me
unless they show pictures of the cars, there's no proof they're doing anything but spreading the propaganda of their auto industry from their bus seats.
>Nobody cares.
nobody cares about the euroshits that agree with you, or your 28 year old shitboxes with no evidence of their existence.
>Most EE cars are still running their original powertrains
>from nearly 30 years ago
*citation needed*

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>>28112634
>other than the cars i linked not having rebuilds
Your gay truck has less miles than the merc, i don't give a shit about it faggot KEK.
>while you can't do the same for your merc.
You still haven't proven your 3 million mile rams to be original either KEK.
>yea, such as the proof of no rebuilds i posted that is absent from yours.
See above KEK.
>it is a collection of engines with millions of miles on it.
>The article mentions vehicle with a lot of mileage on their odometer.
>collection of engines with millions of miles.
1. Learn to read faggot KEK.
2. If this was true, almost every other article would include these vehicles in their list. Not even you blog buddy has them KEK.
>Less rebuilds than the merc, too (zero).
Source KEK?
>your rational for something being a "truck" engine is arbitrary.
-truck = commercial vehicle meant for work = build to a highest standard
-car = private vehicle meant for transportation = build to a lower standard
-car with a truck powertrain = should last longer
How about now?
>with no mention of original components, unlike mine.
See above.
>Type something that isn't insipid drivel.
Get a life.
>burden of proof is on you that they're redlining them.
So you can't prove it, got it ;)
>old fucks drive much less aggressively and slower, this is proven.
The only thing that is proven is that you will never stop seething KEK.
>they're pulling far less weight being in a shitbox than a truck that weighs twice as much. they're experiencing less load.
And the truck has the same hp/tq right? Fucking moron KEK.
>Apparently your 3 million mile volvo guy does, too. as he has admitted with his own mouth that he rebuilds his shitbox.
The volvo guy said that european cars are le bad? Then why does he drive one. Isn't he american? Oh, i think i know why (picture KEK). The first engine rebuild was unnecessary anyways, nothing was wrong with it. He had driven 2+ million miles until he did the second one.

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>>28112644
>2024 article mirroring the same thing.
My article talks about the average lifespan of vehicles in europe. The average varies from 8.0 to 35.1 years, with a mean of 18.1 years in western and 28.4 years in eastern european countries. That means that most people own their cars in EE for around 28 years before they replace it. This isn't cuba, where people are so poor/have nothing, that they are forced to drive their second hand cars forever (that's why your cuba example was dumb). Your article also only includes 29 countries, where as mine includes 31, but we are both missing some other balkan countries (like bulgaria, albania, serbia, etc). With them, the average age would be higher (albania is filled with old mercs, the average age of cars in bulgaria is around 20 years, etc). Now, compared to america, where most states don't have to worry about requirements such as annual inspections and emissions compliance measures, the average age is mostly around 12.6 years (your article claims 14 to 17 years old for europe).
>unless they show pictures of the cars, there's no proof they're doing anything but spreading the propaganda of their auto industry from their bus seats.
What pictures?
>propaganda of their auto industry
Cope KEK.
>nobody cares about the euroshits that agree with you, or your 28 year old shitboxes with no evidence of their existence.
Europeans have older cars on their roads then americans do. I'm sorry that your cuba example didn't work KEK.
>from nearly 30 years ago
Never said nearly 30 years. I assumed 20+ years, and with all european countries combined, i would be right.
>*citation needed*
See above.

>>28100375
>freckles
Swing and a miss

>>28098850
1.9 TDI disproves your entire theory
/thread

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>>28112896
>less miles than the merc on multiple engines
>i don't give a shit about it
i don't, either.
>You still haven't proven your 3 million mile rams to be original
https://www.topspeed.com/highest-mileage-ram-truck-2024/
here's one with no rebuilds at 2.5 million. higher than anything european.
>The article mentions vehicle with a lot of mileage on their odometer.
so exactly how every other article measures the engine mileage, retard?
>If this was true, almost every other article would include these vehicles in their list.
If the average life span of a euroshit mobile was 28 years, almost every article would say so. guess your claim is bogus.
>Source KEK?
read the articles in >>28103854 notice how they mention no rebuilds? where is this for the merc?
>build to a highest standard
what makes this other than not being european? you aren't actually talking about the engine.
Thanks for explaining the difference between a car's chassis and a truck's chassis. now do the same for the engine. explain how the small block is "built the highest standard" when it is not a commercial engine and is used in cars.
>So you can't prove it
I can't prove they redline it? that would be your job, since you brought it up. otherwise, its not relevant for consideration in the argument.
>And the truck has the same hp/tq right?
Does HP/tq make an engine more reliable? or does being built "to the highest standard" (whatever that means) does? a Ferrari 458 has more HP and torque while moving less weight than a small block, why doesn't it last longer?
>The volvo guy said that european cars are le bad?
apparently he thinks they need to be rebauilt, notice how none of the guys i linked here>>28103854 thought their car needed a rebuild, but he does.
>The first engine rebuild was unnecessary anyways
apparently he didn't think so.
>Then why does he drive one.
why did so many europeans drive an american car making it the best selling car model in europe?

>>28112898
>My article talks about the average lifespan of vehicles in europe
so did the one i just linked.
>That means that most people own their cars in EE for around 28 years
quite a bit younger than cuban cars.
>This isn't cuba, where people are so poor/have nothing, that they are forced to drive their second hand cars forever
at around 4-600 euros, albania is poor, and are forced to drive old shitboxes.
>Now, compared to america,
america has an average salary several orders of magnitude higher, and can therefore afford to buy newer cars, but they also have the highest amount of documented million mile cars.
>the average age is mostly around 12.6 years
https://autorecyclingworld.com/what-is-the-lifespan-of-a-vehicle-in-the-usa/
Nope, on average life span is 16 years. with some states being as old as 20. you're quoting "average age" and comparing it to european "average age". the "average age" of european cars is posted here>>28109382 in this image. its 10.8. so the "average life span" in america is higher, as is the "average age".


>(your article claims 14 to 17 years old for europe).
no, it claims 12. 14 to 17 is for "some" countries. but "some US states" have a higher average age than those european countries.

Not only that, but these US states are much wealthier than your eastern european countries, have much more opportunities for buying new cars, and STILL drive older vehicles.
>Europeans have older cars on their roads then americans do
they don't. and when you compare countries of equal wealth and opportunity for buying a new car, its even worse. only your eastern euro countries are comparable because they can't afford new cars, but americans in all states can.
>See above.
Nothing you said or showed proves that most eastern european cars "have their original powertrains" of which i was asking for a citation of.

>>28113206
>you're quoting "average age" and comparing it to european "average age"
comparing american average age to european "average life span"

>i don't, either.
Because it MOGGED your gay ram KEK.
>here's one with no rebuilds at 2.5 million. higher than anything european.
>posts more 3/4 ton trucks
>1st one
>replaced head gasket
>a couple of oil leaks
>the engine underwent an overhaul once, with new pistons, bearings, and a crank.
>2nd one
>replaced the transmission 12 times and has swapped out the Cummins engine 3 times
>still less miles than the merc
LMAO KEK.
>so exactly how every other article measures the engine mileage, retard?
You tell me you retarded baboon nigger, you said "it is a collection of engines with millions of miles on it".
>If the average life span of a euroshit mobile was 28 years, almost every article would say so. guess your claim is bogus.
Except it comes from the european transport research review, cry more faggot KEK.
>read the articles in >>28103854 notice how they mention no rebuilds? where is this for the merc?
Your article about the 3+ million rams also doesn't mention "no rebuilds".
>but my 2.5 million ram
See above LMAO.
>you aren't actually talking about the engine.
It's everything actually.
>explain how the small block is "built the highest standard" when it is not a commercial engine and is used in cars
1. Your ram is not using a "small block".
2. The volvo had done 2+ million miles before it had to go for a rebuild, you can stop comparing it to the camaro.

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>Does HP/tq make an engine more reliable?
You said "they're pulling far less weight being in a shitbox than a truck that weighs twice as much. they're experiencing less load". I said "And the truck has the same hp/tq right?". The car (with a 4 cylinder) is not experiencing less load, because it has less power vs a truck or a car with a truck engine (which has more power), plus it has less cylinder to share that load with. A truck also might experience more load if it's towing/hauling, but it's designed for that anyways, a ferrari is designed for performance and to milk it's customer of money (yet again another dumb example).
>apparently he thinks they need to be rebauilt
>rebauilt
KEK
Why did you ignore the fact that he owned 2 corvairs and got rid of them, because they were constantly breaking down KEK.
>apparently he didn't think so.
Yes, it's called "preventive maintenance", something a spicmutt like you would never know about. The car didn't need it anyways.
>why did so many europeans drive an american car making it the best selling car model in europe?
>posts and ev
You are so mad right now KEK. Also why not post an updated one (Oh i think i know why KEK).
>so did the one i just linked.
The title might read "lifespan," but the content actually discusses the "average age."
>quite a bit younger than cuban cars.
I already refuted your "cuba" example, you dumb shitskin, read again >>28112898
>at around 4-600 euros, albania is poor, and are forced to drive old shitboxes.
>average salary in cuba
>4,000-6000 CUP ($166 - $250)
Plus, albania (and other countries like them) can import cars and parts. Cubans are the ones forced to keep their shit.
>america has an average salary several orders of magnitude higher, and can therefore afford to buy newer cars
>compares the US to albania
Fucking imbecile. Is that also why everybody is complaining about car prices and why they can't afford to buy new ones, and the prices of the second hand market ones have risen?

>but they also have the highest amount of documented million mile cars.
I know, the volvo guy is american.
>Nope, on average life span is 16 years. with some states being as old as 20.
Yes, the average lifespan is 16 (some states 20), but in europe (lifespan), it's still higher (west = 18.1, east = 28.4), your articles (including the one from 2024) are talking about average age.
>the "average age" of european cars is posted here>>28109382 in this image. its 10.8.
That article is old you retard, plus it's not including all countries, why are you ignoring your 2024 article you posted?
>so the "average life span" in america is higher, as is the "average age".
No, it isn't. See above.
>no, it claims 12. 14 to 17 is for "some" countries.
It claims 12.3 actually, and it's not all european countries.
>but "some US states" have a higher average age than those european countries.
Just like how some european countries have a higher average then some states, irrelevant garbage. Most states also don't have to deal with requirements such as annual inspections and emissions compliance measures.
>Not only that, but these US states are much wealthier than your eastern european countries, have much more opportunities for buying new cars.
Yes, people that have more disposable income, buy new shit more often. That's why i called you out on your cuba example.
>and STILL drive older vehicles.
No they don't you retard.
>they don't. and when you compare countries of equal wealth and opportunity for buying a new car, its even worse.
No it isn't, the data is above.
>only your eastern euro countries are comparable because they can't afford new cars, but americans in all states can.
You really think nobody can buy cars in eastern europe? Europe has way more cheap car options than america does. Dacia cars, for example, usually start at the low end of €10k . Most won't even go over €20k.

>Nothing you said or showed proves that most eastern european cars "have their original powertrains" of which i was asking for a citation of.
This is a very specific piece of data, however most euros agree with me on this, and since you can't refute it, it's true.

>>28105539
The SDIs will outlast the roaches, even if the cars that could carry them are long dead

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>>28114699
>Because it MOGGED
it mogged kept mogging itself and needed multiple rebuilds.
>posts more 3/4 ton trucks
Not my fault euroshits can't make trucks. america makes better super cars than europe, yet europe has never been able to make a truck.
>the engine underwent an overhaul once
so less times than the volvo or the merc?
>a couple of oil leaks
the owner of the volvo admitted it actually broke down.
>still less miles than the merc
the merc has less than the 3 million mile ram.
>"it is a collection of engines with millions of miles on it".
and what do you use to measure the engine mileage? the odometer, you retarded nigger.
>Except it comes from the european transport research review
And i just posted shit that contradicted it.
>Your article about the 3+ million rams also doesn't mention "no rebuilds
It also doesn't mention it had one. whereas i already linked you two the says the merc did. looks like your merc gets mogged.
>It's everything actually.
you've given no actual reasoning. you simply stated its "built better", which i guess is a given since its not european.
>Your ram is not using a "small block".
So small blocks are not truck engines? good to know.
>The volvo had done 2+ million miles
There are small blocks with that, too.
pic related. remember, not a truck engine.

>>28114701
>"they're pulling far less weight being in a shitbox than a truck that weighs twice as much they're experiencing less load
Yes.
>"And the truck has the same hp/tq right?"
Doesn't matter. they're doing more work.
>The car (with a 4 cylinder) is not experiencing less load, because it has less power
retarded, and would only make sense if it was actually towing shit. which it isn't.
>plus it has less cylinder to share that load with
Also retarded, because less moving parts means fewer potential failure points.
>A truck also might experience more load if it's towing/hauling,
all of the ones i posted, were cross country tow trucks.
>but it's designed for that anyways
and the volvo engine is designed to carry its own weight for the car it was put in. any notion of it being more stressed is moronic.
>a ferrari is designed for performance
any engine built to make power would be designed for some kind of performance. so congrats on admitting the trucks are more stressed, because they have to perform to a certain expectation to tow, the volvo doesn't. allowing for a more simplistic and stress-free engine.
>and to milk it's customer of money
that's european cars in general.
>Why did you ignore the fact that he owned 2 corvairs and got rid of them,
Corvair engines are commonly used in airplanes. why do you ignore europeans forsaking their own shitboxes for an american car having made it the best selling car in europe? is it because modern euroshit cars constantly break down?
>it's called "preventive maintenance"
copium
>The car didn't need it
more copium
>posts and ev
Not my fault europeans are technologically behind.

>The title might read "lifespan," but the content actually discusses the "average age."
Your data in your article is labeled "car age".
>I already refuted your "cuba" example
Re refutes your slavshit example. since you cannot prove they don't swap out their shit.
>albania (and other countries like them) can import cars and parts
just like the rest of europe, where it almost never happens due to taxes. its far less convenient to import a car that you don't even know will work than it is to just salvage an engine from a wrecked shitbox already in your country, which is likely what slavs are doing.
>compares the US to albania
You're the one comparing slavshit countries to save face, whilst trying to ignore cuba for the same reasons you shouldn't be comparing eastern euro countries to america.

>>28114705
>I know, the volvo guy is american.
as are the million mile cummins club. makes me wonder why such a thing isn't in europe. i mean, all their cars are 20+ years old, right? why don't they have million mile vehicles left and right?
>your articles (including the one from 2024) are talking about average age.
your article labels its data as "car age", and it cites the same agency i linked anyway.
>That article is old
so is yours, its from 2021. the only one who posted something from this year is me.
>No, it isn't.
according to the most recent data i linked by an agency, it is.
>and it's not all european countries.
its the western ones, which are the only ones you should be comparing to america.
>Just like how some european countries
You mean the poorest slavshit ones that can't afford anything? no, you aren't making a counter point with that.
>Most states also don't have to deal with requirements such as annual inspections and emissions compliance measures.
slavshit countries practically have no regulations on cars whatsoever, and you can get away with shit you couldn't in america, which would allow you to drive something that wouldn't even be road legal in the US.
>people that have more disposable income, buy new shit more often. That's why i called you out on your cuba example.
Yet you don't see how comparing the US to slavshit countries is stupid?
>No they don't
According to the most recent data, they do. cope.
No it isn't, the data is above.
Yea it is, your data is outdated. cope more.
>You really think nobody can buy cars in eastern europe?
They can, used hack together ones with salvaged parts no different than cuba.
>Dacia cars, for example, usually start at the low end of €10k .
No slavshit is spending 10k on a fucking car when they can build salvage shit around them. if cubans can do it for cheap, you don't think its appealing to slavs? they have no disposable income, so they're going to penny pinch to hell.

>28114711
>This is a very specific piece of data
Not my fault you made a claim as retarded as suggesting most cars in slavshit countries have their original powertrains, as if they don't swap shit when every poor country does.
>however most euros agree with me
most articles agree with me on how old european cars are and their life span.
most articles agree that your merc had its engine rebuilt
you can't refute the 3 million mile ram with an article saying it had its engine replaced, so it didn't.

get BTFO.