Lando Norris crashing his $2.5 Million Ferrari F40 last week.
i thought european cars were supposed to handle well.
What race is he? He looks really swarthy.
>>28220921>Body damage.Meh, And it's just the bumper too. Come back here when someone else splits a Ferrari in half. I'll pretend to care then.
>>28220921Is it another case of running expired tires? It's what killed Paul Walker, after all.
>>28220921>Lando Norris Who?
>>28220939Its a Star War character
>>28220941That's lando calrizzlian
>>28220922it wasnt lando driving
>>28220922Erm, he meant to spin out, Americhud...
>>28220922its italianwhich means it's supposed to kill you but passionately.
>>28220921Better out on the roads crashing, then huddled in some garage only to see the light of day at an auction.
So wait, this is the second F40 in a week to get wrecked in a straight line cause people don't know how to drive?For Lando Hack-ris the reputational damage alone outweighs $2.5million
>>28220934How can I tell if my tires are expired?
>>28221064DOT number is more than 5 years old.
>th... the tires were old>it was a .... it was a technician driving it, not the ownerAm I expected to believe these things that they say every time?
2 in a week, what are the odds.
>>28221092
>>28220921That could have ended alot worse, lucky/stupid fuck.
>>28220921lando's friend was driving it, not him...
>>28221094This looks like they intentionally turn into the light pole.
>>28221108The rumor on this one is it was a shop mechanic going for a joyride.
>>28221094Nerve gas strikes again.
>>28221082>old tyres>no assists >damp road surface and it's 5 Celsius >engine goes from 250 hp to 450hp+ in just 2000rpmI believe it.
>>28220921>can't follow a mild curve on a road without completely losing tractionhere's your """super""" car, bro.
>>28221110The source of that rumor? Lando.
>>28221125>but muh racebred suspension! >muh double bones at all corners! >i have a GATED SHIFTER!!>this cant be happening to me!!!
Values are going up every time you destroy one.
>>28221107>friendnot anymore
>>28221064Read the date code. For a performance vehicle you should absolutely replace the tires every 5 years, stored inside or not. They deteriorate over time, becoming harder and less flexible. The tires on Walker's Porsche were over 10 years old when they lost control into a tree.>they still have good treaddoesn't matter>but it's expensivebuying tires costs money, dying costs everything.
>>28220934Came here to post this.
>>28220921no wonder ppl don't drive these, what a shitbox
>>28221108There's a theory that drivers will focus on obstacles and wind up veering directly into them.Also a theory that different blink/strobe patterns on towtrucks will "attract" drunks right up their ass when theyre parked on the shoulder.
>>28221186>Also a theory that different blink/strobe patterns on towtrucks will "attract" drunks right up their ass when theyre parked on the shoulder.Like a moth to a flame.>>28221094This guy die?
>>28220921It will be restored and be worth 3 million
>>28220921the who now?
Can't just go from driving automatic hug boxes that are aidsmaxxed to hell and back then hop in a ttv8 with ancient tires
>>28220979Underrated.
>>28221094That's a total loss.>>28220921This isn't.
>>28221173>For a performance vehicle you should absolutely replace the tires every 5 years, stored inside or notEven for my shitbox my tires never exceed two years old. I burn through them the more enthusiastic I get.
What does it feel like to crash a $2 million car
>>28221186Target fixation is a real thing, not just a theory.
>>28221255It's an F40, you could burn the entire thing into a melted puddle and it wouldn't be written off.Just like a Mclaren F1, no matter what you do it WILL be rebuilt.
>>28221289Based shitbox enjoyer.
>>28221094Jesus fucking christ.
>>28221178how are you supposed to see out of that car
>>28221002Cut him some slack, they still run TC in Formula Gay.
>>28220922That's italian not european, dummy.
>>28221173Dying is free.
>>28221404Finally ejected the pasta niggers eh?
>>28221387You've ascended at that point, it's all third person and God himself guides you
>>28220986this cope only works if it's being driven at its limitlosing it on a straight line at 30mph is pathetic, should have kept it in the garage
>car I will never afford in a million years>some richfag who only owns it as an investment has his car crashed by a wageie>"Oh nooooo I'm so upset about this"I seriously hope you guys don't do this
>>28221401No they don't
>>28220921>>28221094They got insurance to cover it, if they they might just sell 0.00000001% of their stocks. Or sell it to a prince as is for double what they bought it for.
>>28221094I hate these people so much.
>>28221409*Sigh*.................no.
>>28220921norris dropping it after verstappen gets the lead, again.
>>28221321No it won'tAn F40 is a $2 million carAn F1 is $20 millionMcLaren is also dedicated to rebuilding every F1 from the ground up as long as you have the vin (even that's probably not required, you really just need the title)I've heard of Ferrari rebuilding Enzos years after production but I don't know if they can do F40s.
>>28220921the f40 is slower than 20 year old corvettes.ferrari is the most overrated car ever
>>28220921looks like the only tires are these vintage Series Michelins.220tw, so probably not any grip when cold for sure.I
>>28221646>40yo car is slower than 20yo cardamn
>>28221678>$20k car is faster than $2.5m cardamn
Why are F1 drivers so bad at driving?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ZLiWnzBwMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQZgBiiSDao
>>28221641F40 is much easier to repair it's a tube frame chassis, not a carbon fibre monocoque.
>>28221687yeah it's almost like people value cars for reasons other than pure performance
>>28220921literally who
based desu
>>28220921
>>28220922Doesn't matter WHAT you're driving - the retard behind the wheel decides whether it stays on the road.
It's OK, his daddy will pay to fix it.
>>28221405Yeah>dead?>not my problem
>>28221779>seething at family wealthSay you are a Millennial in his 30s without saying you are a Millennial in his 30s.Give your kids something besides your Funko collection
>>28221794No seething, I'm saying it'll be fixed.
>>28221729>The build quality is horrendous, with cheap looking carbon tiles on the floors, massive gaps and traces of glue still visible. The windows are roll-ons and in order to close the door, you're provided with only a string, but let's be honest, if you're buying an Ferrari F40, it's not for its interior.Only hiveminded nitwits are impressed by the f40. There's nothing good about it at all.
>>28221794ahh I remember when I wasn't old enough to post here too.
>>28221794Go away dork, you're a millennial too
>>28221916yet people still pay over 2 million for them
>>28222049jackson pollocks sell for $200m, same nitwit hiveminded logic.
>>28220921>Crashes on a straight line Ferrari certainly seems to struggle with making a car handle, it seems
>>28220921>kwablandolol
>>28221916Only soys care about interiors
>>28221186That's not a theory, that's just target fixation. Driver's Ed teaches you to "look where you want to go", but I guess most Americans get their licenses in cereal boxes
>>28220922The F40 is a very fine edge and little forgiveness. So if you push the car too much in one way or another you're gonna get got.
>>28221094Fuck, I thought this was the same incident, fucking bizarre.
>>28220921>$2.5 Million Ferraribut it looks so smallwhy couldn't he buy a larger car for $2.5 million
>>28223737>The F40 is a very fine edge and little forgiveness.So does a truck on ice with welfare slicks and no weight in the bed. Not being able to recover from a skid like this is simply just a lack of driving skill.
>>28221094I know that feel.
>>28223752Ya ok
>>28221094what did he mean by this?
>>28221186>Also a theory that different blink/strobe patterns on towtrucks will "attract" drunks right up their ass when theyre parked on the shoulder.I knew a couple of guys on a power company crew who were killed this way. Standing behind the truck, working.
>>28220934>Is it another case of running expired tires?How do you afford an F40 and not have a competent mechanic doing periodic maintenance checks?
>>28223805People with F40 money aren't going to waste money on a "car wizard" on retainer. They're also not going to replace the expired tires just so they can safely drive it 2 times a year.
>>28223752I've driven both, and a lot sketchier cars than either, like pro street cars built in the 90s with 0 chassis engineering knowledge and blown big blocks. The F40 is undrivable, always has been, always will be. You will never see a video of one getting wringed out on a public road that's really under boost for more than a few seconds at a time. In the Nico Rosberg tries and makes it about 10 seconds before getting scared and letting off the rest of the drive https://youtu.be/WNjYyh9KTXc(you are a better driver than him though right, because you drove a Ford Ranger on summer tires in the snow one time). The straight line crash isn't surprising and there was no saving it. As soon as F40s hit boost, they squat hard because of the garbage chassis and suspension tech, you are then tramlining on an 80s technology Pirelli that basically has all terrain tread but 345 width, almost all F40s have these tires for "originality" (though I've also driven one with somewhat modern Michelins on it and it's still bad). So as soon as it squats you will dart a little bit, realize you have almost no steering command because the shit front tires and notchy rack, let off, it's still under boost so you get way different engine braking behavior that you aren't ready for, the weight dives forward onto your shitty but tiny Pirelli fronts, and you Mustang it off the road. Let me reiterate: this would happen to you, you suck at driving and cannot handle this car, just like everyone else. I am a much more experienced driver than you and learned what these cars do the first time hitting boost and never pushed it without being in an empty industrial part with huge runouts.
>>28220921f40s were like 800k a few years ago what happened?
>>28223838>Nico Rosberg tries and makes it about 10 seconds before getting scared and letting off the rest of the driveSurprise. Surprise. Another F1 driver who can't drive. Now lets see a rally or a Nascar driver driving a F40 lol. >you are a better driver than him though right, because you drove a Ford Ranger on summer tires in the snow one timeI did that with trucks for a good 10 years before eventually growing up. Living somewhere where there's snow 10 months out of the year automatically makes you a better driver than most of the general population and apparently even some race drivers. Fairweather faggots can't leave a car meet without meeting the crowd. Meanwhile people here are driving Mustangs, Hellcats, Corvettes and other high HP RWD cars out in the snow and ice with no issues.
You don't know what turbo lag is and nobody cares what you think
>>28223838>I once loaded an F40 onto a truck for a customer, it was practically like doing a hot lap of Circuit de la Sarthe
>>28223869Loading an F40 into an enclosed trailer or a tilting alumalite is like doing a lap of Circuit de la Sarthe. You think it's not nerve wracking driving a $2 mil car with a clutch 3x the weight of most manuals up a ramp with 2" of clearance on each side? Look at this picture and try to figure out how I got out of the car after driving it in. Also, now that there's 24/7 video of everything at all times this may be different, but when an F40 was damaged at another dealer near me while a tech wash driving (the tech didn't crash it, a landscaping truck drove into the back of it not seeing it since they are so low), the customer just ended up paying out of pocket, since if the dealers insurance did it, it would go on the record of the car and devalue it more than the cost of the repair. All sorts of weird shenanigans go on with these cars, they are bought and sold constantly outside of public auctions, 2 of them sold while in the middle of a service we were doing, on of which was just bought at auction and sent straight to us, I don't think the owner that had it for those few months ever actually saw the car in person.
>>28223838>https://youtu.be/YVAcRNYFCrw>https://youtu.be/DyqN6OVuGkoMaybe you should learn to drive.
>>28221186>>28223800In japan they have reflector lights that spin in the opposite direction of the road. It forces you from focusing on the lights and veering into them, and instead you naturally want to veer away from them and in line with the curve of the road.>t. they saved my ass when I was falling asleep driving once because I was exhausted
These cars have untune-able handling characteristics due to rear engine weight and high rev turbo. It’s like a 70s racecar with late 80s style. It’s why Japan took over the 90s with AWD and better handling cars.
>>28221531i feel bad for the car, not the owner
>>28220921It's a Ferrari F40, it has absolutely no boost in low RPM and then it doubles in horsepower at like 5K RPM, it was purposefully engineered to spin you out and kill you.
>>28223916Why the fuck wouldn't you just push it in?>>28225303Turbo lag is irrelevant. The only thing that'll make a car spin out is overcorrecting due to a lack of driving skill.
>>28220960It apparently was someone told to take it out and give it the beans.Some mechanic, not her.
>>28225303suberchargers win, as always
>>28224118>You will never see a video of one getting wringed out on a public road that's really under boost for more than a few seconds at a time>posts some videos of driving under boost for a few seconds at a time Brave drivers though. Don't get confused into thinking you could do that. There isn't a single person on earth that will ever drive an F40 that does not have 100x the driving experience and skill you do, whether it's the owner or a technician. >>28225306>Why the fuck wouldn't you just push it in?There's <1" clearance between the rockers and the wheel arches of the trailer, someone has to be in to steer regardless so may as well drive it in. >Turbo lag is irrelevant. The only thing that'll make a car spin out is overcorrecting due to a lack of driving skill.Incorrect, I already explained exactly what happens in my first post and there's plenty of evidence to show it's true. Yeah the rapid liftoff is the problem and could be attributed to skill, but unless you've driven one already, you aren't going to be ready for what happens when it hits boost and by nature of how expensive the car is and how intense the car is otherwise to drive, it's instant information overload with little time to react.
>>28223737seems like bs to me
>>28225491Group B cars weren't exactly known for stable or predictable handling.
>>28221401it wasn't Lando driving it.
>>28225303It makes like 400hp, you sound like a Honda ricer talking about VTEC kicking in
>>28225491They took a press photo driving in the rain? Must be easy to drive.
>uncontrollable on warm, drive pavementlmao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he0WvPDxjZc&t=
>>28220922How well is it supposed to handle on a straight line?
>>28221186This happens with bikes and motorcycles. I have to look away from objects on the trail I am heading towards with my bike so I can lean the bicycle to turn. There is a no outlet sign in my yard I fly by at the end of my daily bike ride around town and my house is at the bottom of a hill so I end up going full speed at it and have to lean the bike to miss it which means rotating my torso which wants to follow my head. It I stare down the sign it's hard to move out of th3 way but if I look past it at a different target or line it's easy to juke around it at speed.
>>28220922its a super-light, mid-engine RWD car with zero electronic assistants.Im sure it handles great but you just cant fuck up even a little.
>>28225605>470hp in a 2,700lb car with no traction control on 1980's tires is nbdLet me guess, you have a 600hp corvette on 450R20 Cup 2 tires and never go over 60.
>>28220922reminder that if this was an american car, you wouldn't see all the cope that you do ITT. it would just be people saying the car handles like shit due to too much power in a plastic chassis.
>>28221094People get used to modern cars with traction control and can't react fast enough in powerful cars without it.
>>28221310Alright. I just drive my other hyper car while waiting for it to be fixed.
>>28223805Supercars get driven double digit miles a year. Nobody is looking at the tyres.
>V8 FerrariNothing of value was lost.>>28221663
>>28221646Stick to video games, dipshit.
>>28227708haha, that's slower than a fucking camaro.
>zoomer stupid enough to let his zoomer friend drive a multi-million dollar supercar with no nannieshe 1000% deserves it
>>28220951He changed his name because of all of the fame.
>>28227708lmao my cummins is faster
>>28220921Something wrong with that car if it did that, perhaps uneven tire pressures. No, it's not supposed to that, and a properly set up one won't.
>>28220921he wasn't driving at that time.
>>28220921>zooms out for the impactgosh thanks, what a great video, maybe you should slap someonewordatatimecaptionsonthatvideotomakeitevenbetter
>>28223838>anon drops a truth bomb on /o/> «b-but I would be able to h-handle it, I swear mommy»This is spot on. The F40 is a terrible car: badly engineered, zero driving aids, RWD, turbo with tremendous lag, absurd torque curve where you gain about 200 hp over 1000 rpm. Add in old tyres and a wet road and that poor mechanic was doomed from the moment he left the garage. Especially since «testing the engine» was what he was supposed to do…
>>28228230>Add in old tyres and a wet road and that poor mechanic was doomed from the moment he left the garageFWD drivers should not be allowed to post here. RWD cars don't spin out the second they lose traction. They spin out because the driver has no skills.
>>28223916>Loading an F40 into an enclosed trailer or a tilting alumalite is like doing a lap of Circuit de la Sarthe
>>28221794>>28223838>>28223916This faggot drove an expensive car onto a trailer and thinks he's fucking Ayrton Senna, lmao.
>>28228230>was what he was supposed to do…treat the throttle like an on off switch, get spooked by a slight loss of traction, cut throttle and lean on the brakes
>>28223805No one is going to replace thousands of dollars worth of tires which only have 100 miles on them, just to go on a sunday drive at low speeds. Poorfags whip shitboxes with 20 year old Chinese tires every day, and usually its fine. You only get new ones when they fall apart or wear out.
>>28230834>No one is going to replace thousands of dollars worth of tires which only have 100 miles on themIncorrect, most owners do, but an owner not wanting to do that is what led to one of my only close calls wrecking a customer car (a Mondial, which would have been good for the world but not for me)
>>28228230>zero driving aids
>>28223737You've driven one to confirm this?
>priceless classic >original dry rot tires why are they like this?
>>28231049some collectors will go so far as to obtain old tyres to make sure EVERYTHING is originalusually these people tow the cars though. the people that drive their cars probably just don't think about it till it bites them in the ass hard
>>28231049wtf polish van darkholme
>>28220979noice
>>28223753that's a lot of weed
>>28231040What kind of dumbass argument is this?
>>28221178looks like a very expensive shoebrush
>>28223916did u kno that you can connect another ferrari's frontlights with those taillights and create an italian centipede with passion?
>>28220922>It's the car's fault whenever someone crashes, not the retard controlling itDo you even hear yourself? Fucking room temp iq dipshit
>>28231697Tangentially related, I've seen on some Canada spec Ferraris from the early 00s, they made the headlights DRLs by just using a wire bite connector to some other hot wire so the headlights are on when the ignition is on. It's possible some importer did this but it looked to me like it was probably original the way it was taped to the harness. The automatic seatbelts in the F40 and the F50 for NA market are also completely butchered into the car by Ferrari, they truly didn't give a fuck back then about homologation for non-EU markets.
are F40s really worth that pricetag?
>>28232572>is any single consumer/collectible item that's been marked up to the point the number stops having any significance for the absolute vast majority of the world population "worth it"?If you have to ask, you can't afford it anyway, so why bother?
>>28233606don't ever pivot my question to whine about financial disparity, or i'll call you brown.
>>28233662I'll call myself brown, even black, look how much I care about this bottom of the barrel racism, nigger. Now, the answer to your precious question: it depends on your use case.>a means of transportation?No.>a racecar?No.>a flex on the poor? Probably not.>a flex amongst equally rich people?Probably.>a collectible item that was a scarce luxury item by design in a curated collection of comparable %items?Probably yes.>an ever appreciating asset to store wealth into so that the capital invested in it will turn an inflation-adjusted profit by the time you sell it again?Yes.For some reason the answer is still all about how far removed you are from the practical value of money. Weird.
>>28233701you missed the only one that matters>as a fun car to drivethe fact you didn't even have this in the list shows how far removed you are from being a car enthusiast. Weird.
>ahah gotcha
>>28221094Insurance scam.
I'd be willing to bet they are on really high performance tires that were cold. I had the bright idea once of putting tires on a car I had maybe 10 or 12 years ago that were essentially street-legal race tires, and they had absolutely no grip until they warmed up to operating temperature. I let my friend drive us home one night because I was a bit drunk, and I forgot to warn him about that. About 2 minutes down the road the ass end came out around a turn (at probably less than 35 mph) and the car went ass-first into a guard rail.
>>28220979
>>28221094>tfw spider in front of your face out of nowhere
>>28221094>>28221108Looks like the driver pulled a hamstring or something? >accelerates and instantly veers right>breaks while still accelerating
>>28221178just worked on one in my shop yesterday no lie. might be the worst modern car merc makes, and they make a lot of shitty cars. I hate the way it handles, i hate the interior and the shitty gear selector. leaky as a faucet. constant problems.its a german car, but somehow even worse
>>28223916ok, how did you get out? is the side window wide enough to squeeze through?
why it do that... why the super fancy race car do that...>t. a-b econobox enjoyer
>>28236804Yeah I threw my shoes out the window, climbed through the window and monkey barred out on the tire rack
The Ferrari F40 isn't a car, it's a story. "The last car approved by Enzo himself".The car is a piece of shit. The Porsche 959 came out two years earlier, was actually built well, comfortable, and it was also faster.Keep that thing on your posters or as an investment ONLY. But if you buy it as an investment then I don't respect you.Anyway buy an aircooled 911 Turbo if you want a fast dangerous RWD car or buy a modern supercar if you actually want to go fast.>but it has assists i want to do RAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW BAAAAAAAWWWWYour stupid flabby hands aren't built for controlling 400hp+ all by yourself. Get real, stop acting macho and go have actual fucking fun without your faggoty pretentions of being the next Walter Röhrl or some shit.
>>28237485yeah i'm sure you're an authority of how it drives, you bus riding faggot.
>>28220921why is this car on a road and not on a track?
>>28221107I thought Lando's friend won it from him during a card game?
>>28233701>>an ever appreciating asset to store wealth into so that the capital invested in it will turn an inflation-adjusted profit by the time you sell it again?People who buy cars for this reason shouldn't be allowed to fucking own cars.
Reminds me of the Motorweek review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF6nrwJlHD0&t=303s
>>28237485>400hp+Uh is that considered a lot?