Welcome to the Auto Vidya General, the thread for discussion of racing and driving games. Not chinkshit peripherals or ecelebs. Raise hell, praise Dale, hail Thrustmaster, ok.Previous thread >>28709995>Wikihttps://get-good.net>MumbleIP: mumble.get-good.netPort: 64738Password: 4ch>Chathttps://chat.get-good.net>Equipment Guidehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNo>Check the doc for the latest info. We're currently racing touring cars in AC on Saturdays and shitboxes in AC on Sundays.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=2067389525>We're decompiling the classic PC game Whiplash and rebuilding it for modern hardware! The game is currently playable (with a few bugs). Check out the GitHub:https://github.com/Zizin13/ROLLER
im gonna bully the shit outta that mr2 poster tonight
>>28720888He has an indian flag so you already know it's gonna be an uh oh stinky
>>28720890all meme flags get the wall
>>28720890>doesn't know what flag it is
>person is annoying>turns out he's from an annoying raceMany such cases.
>>28720959>turns out he's from an annoying raceHey, it's your race I'm joining, take it up with the organizer.
>this weekend's track is a stunning recreation of tahiti road made by someone looking at the track map on the hud in a screenshot of gt2 >it even came with its own local to race with
WE ARE RACINGM TONIGHT IN 25 MINUTES SO GET IN THE SERVER
>>2872118325min? wasn't it in like an hour?
>>28721201theres a timer on the doc that tells you how much time left
>>28721207fuuuuuck
Pork
>oh the race is soon, better warm up>think I have like an hour left>race starts now!>no time to warm upsad...
>>28720895happogahara
Can anybody upload the first race replay?
>>28721407link on doc/chat
>>28721422>aw11 bros
>>28721362DO A BARREL ROLL
>>28721422yeah my bad, I expected there to be space in front of the red car and didn't expect somebody to go into that space, that I was pushing into myself.
>yesterday was the 20th anniversary of nfs most wanted release>i forgot about itIt's over
>>28720881>battle Unknown>he pit manuvers into me>he crashes into the rail>I get launched into thr air>somehow winFucking what? That's the final boss?
>>28721425I've had worse...
>>28721444Yes, welcome to TXRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmSmNpUswjM
>>28721446>megane is on the outside line>I'm on the inside lane>leave space in the middle for pastor>he cuts into the apex where I am and rams my assyou forgot to say n-no homoI genuinely don't know how to pass this dude safely.
>>28721463just stay on bumper and wait for them to make a mistake
>>28721471their mistakes >>28721463 , as you can see cause me to crash harder than it does them.Besides if I stay on their bumper, any small mistake on my part will cause me to bump into them and send them spinning out.I closed more than 15 second gap between me and that car twice. And every time I get close to him I can't pass him because he just goes slow in the corners and takes up the line.I guess I should have controlled my space better before a corner and then taken a faster exit speed to safely pass him on a straight.I think my genuine mistake was staying too close to him before a corner, so I had to slow down, not step on the throttle and being unable to balance the weight of the car as I want.
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>>28721505is this your first time racing online? Genuinely asking
>>28721505you didn't even lift to tighten your turning circlehe crashed but you drove as if he was going to magically disappear from there
>>28721532yes>>28721533I didn't think he'd have a crash in that corner. he could have easily hit the breaks to reduce speed or straighten the wheel to stay more straight with the crash. Crashing into the wall so hard that he bumps out of his line back in was not expected.Genuinely though he'd just skid a little on the sand and keep moving forward but slower.>he crashed but you drove as if he was going to magically disappear from thereI drove expecting him to stay on his line. When I practiced the worst I did in that corner was skid on the sand and kept going straight but slower.
>>28721539you had 3 business days to tap the brakes and avoid the whole thing
>>28721543again, I simply didn't expect him to crash the wall hard enough to bounce back in.To me It was>oh sweet, he oversped and now is in the sand, which means he will be going straight and slower, perfect time to pass.
>>28721547He's literally in the wall in that frame
>>28721550>person watching webm with all the time in the world, with 3rd person perspective fore better view, with lot of experience with people crashing that it's obviouswasn't obvious to me. I lack the personal experience of crashing in that wall, and I lack watching other people crash experience as well.So to me, it's a genuine surprise.
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What are we supposed to see here? The BMW knows what a defensive line is?
>>28721568How does one cleanly, without bumping into the other car, pass him?I'm pretty much faster in every corner than him, but don't know how to utilize it to get past him without bumping into him because he simply drives like there is nobody else on the road and takes the optimal line, slowly each time, regardless of where the other car is, even if crashing into them, or getting crashed into himself is a possibility.
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>>28721572Stop trying to dive the last minute and time the overtakes better
>>28721572You need to do a different line than the car you attempt to overtake to eg get a better exit of the corner when the car in front is being defensive. Playing conga line gets you nowhere (racing game AI is downright terrible and will never teach you how to race real drivers)
>>28721572>leave some space between you to avoid contact>enter the corner using a line that puts you in a different point on the exit>if your exit speed is good enough you'll pass him or at least reach a side by side position that forces him to leave some space for youor if you're brave you can try to dive on the entry if there's enough space
>TIL some dude turned MSC into a dating simhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oPRKsCu1LI
>>28721590>You need to do a different line than the car you attempt to overtake to eg get a better exit of the corner when the car in front is being defensive.yeah, but I had a really hard time judging it, because if I take my optimal line through the corner to go fast, it's severely faster than the BWM. So I need to somehow time it just right, that I catch up to him on corner exit, not during the corner, which is what kept happening over and over.I also can't be driving on the limit of speed for a corner and also do sudden slowdowns to avoid crashing.So pretty much feels like I need to judge this thing perfectly. Seems difficult to pull off.>>28721594>>leave some space between you to avoid contactdid that, didn't work because >>enter the corner using a line that puts you in a different point on the exitdidn't do this, my exit line was pretty much the same as his because it's the fastest one and I was hoping that I just get better exit speed than him, and pass him safely on a straight line. But kept mistiming the thing constantly.>>if your exit speed is good enough you'll pass him or at least reach a side by side position that forces him to leave some space for youHe didn't even leave space for me when I was in front of him and left him space on the middle here >>28721446>or if you're brave you can try to dive on the entry if there's enough spacedoesn't seem to work on this dude, he is fucking suicidal tier in terms of taking his preferred line, even if I'm dive bombing from the side.which is why I constantly hit the breaks like here>>28721547 >>28721580If I didn't, then webm related would happen constantly. Or if I didn't try to avoid him and instead went in with my side to bump him off and over take the line.... but again that isn't clean. I don't think I want to resort to bumping shitter in order to over take somebody.Meh, I need practice to deal with this shit.
>>28721580>>28721608>PASTOOOOOOOOOR YOU SUICIDAL MORON!!!https://youtu.be/6kbIlycGF-E?t=15
>>28721608If you want to learn how to race against people online sign up for lowfuelmotorsport. It's free and there's always people in their AC series.I can understand why you are having issues when the only racing you've done is against AI which is really shit. Generally simracing AI is just shit and nothing like racing against real people.
>>28721608You have to get a lot closer before trying to shove your car alongside his
>>28721629>If you want to learn how to race against people online sign up for lowfuelmotorsport. It's free and there's always people in their AC series.Eh, dunno about that. I just need pastor to do laps while I try to figure out how to pass him cleanly.I didn't have this issue with anybody else in the server, everybody else seemed to leave space for others. Like if somebody was outside, they would stay on the outside or mid, they wouldn't go from outside, inside, to outside.>I can understand why you are having issues when the only racing you've done is against AI which is really shit.barely any AI. It's not any good. I'm more of a rally person.>Generally simracing AI is just shit and nothing like racing against real people.yeah.>>28721634cool webm showing a driver who just gives you space. Now imagine if the guy next to you didn't give a fuck and just went for the apex anyway.Here is webm of the same thing. And it's toooooootally because I forced the driver to stay on the outside lane and not cut towards the apex crashing us both. Not because he is a gentleman that left room on his right side for a car.
>>28721418the >replaysis just a textfield with no link or anything. so I can't get it from there. If somebody could upload it to a different place, like MEGA or something i'd be really nice.
i wish some a**stralians a particularly bad day. +30 seconds to all laps.
>>28721643the fact that you hit him in the rear axle seals that you did not have enough overlap for anythingthat's a desperate dive from two cities over and was never going to make it in timeand in that last webm the fat fuck understeers his way into the outside line
>>28721651>the fact that you hit him in the rear axle seals that you did not have enough overlap for anythingLook at the other webms of the same corner, I could get in there on the side but multiple times backed off, didn't step on the throttle, pressed the brakes to let him pass and avoid collision.This last webm >>28721608was just a last lap, desperate attempt at something. And I failed to brake in time to avoid collision that time.It wasn't to illustrate that I had him, rather that he has zero safety regard for a car being near him. Don't believe me? Just put an aggressive driver in my position who bumps the fucker out of line and moves on.... Kinda like... >>28721446But yeah this "defensive driving" is shit that will work only against players who don't want to crash into you and want to drive clean.Point is, when he was not in front of me, but like 15 seconds ahead. I would catch up to him, because I went through every corner faster. But lack the experience to cleanly pass him when he is blocking like that and lack the willingness to bump him out of the way.Anyway, first race was fun, even if I didn't have time to warm up and didn't drive at my best.Second race was fine but frustrating because I couldn't figure out how to pass this one driver, was more interested moving up and seeing how the faster guys are driving.Also me causing the crash at the start was unfortunate.Oh well, decent overall.
>>28721663What? You expect everyone to just hand you over their position because you're trying to overtake?
That's not how it goes
>aw11 anon is a shitter who doesnt know how to racecolor me surprised. he is not worthy of using the MR layout
In case any new anons missed.... OVG HILLCLIMB has returnedWe held our own version of Pikes Peak years ago, I am kinda bringing it back and making it a once a month thingBring your own car like last timeBOP, spec tire, tracks, etc are still being currently playtestedREAD THE WIKI FOR THE RULEShttps://wiki.get-good.net/index.php?title=OVG_Hillclimb(More updates to rulebook may come soon)Sign up herehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=1938456411#gid=1938456411Send your track suggestions herehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=717044352#gid=717044352Stay tuned, and see you on the mountains soon
>playing F1 2020>driving classic F1 cars>mid 90s Williams is losing traction and trying to swap ends at 130mph and can't take the Monaco tunnel flat outlmao, they have less traction than a touring car. They're easier to drive in GP4
>>28721644use ya brain
>>28721663>this "defensive driving" is shit that will work only against players who don't want to crash into you and want to drive clean.Yes that's the point nigga people don't actually want to crash. You gotta predict these things happening. You have to learn how to lure a guy into defending in a way you want him to defend so you can execute an overtake. It's what race craft is all about. You wrote elsewhere that you'll be fixed by driving behind pastor some more but every driver here will show you the same defending if you try to get past. Race real drivers, not AI that has weird mickey mouse metrics to prevent conga lines. Real people don't get psyched out after 4 seconds of you being up their ass especially if you know the guy is somewhat skilled and won't drive into you deliberately
>>28721608>3 car lengths behind>tries to dive bomb on the inside to a late apex corner<NOO HE SHUT THE DOOR ON ME!You're trying moves that work only on AI. Plus you wouldn't be able to make the pass stick as you'd lose on exit.
Today we learned that if gap car is not a good strat
>>28721670I'd buy the defensive line stuff if he didn't crash into my back.Otherwise it just comes of ass little regard for crashing into people or getting crashed into by people. The only reason I didn't bump into him on every corner is because I reduced my speed so I don't bump into him. not because he was taking it faster than me.>>28722170look here, pic related. see the other replays, that's how this weeks replay looked again.But you fixed it somehow, so now I can download it. Thanks.>>28722194>You wrote elsewhere that you'll be fixed by driving behind pastor some more but every driver here will show you the same defending if you try to get past. I didn't have a problem with the other drivers, but then again I didn't get to race everybody as much. > Real people don't get psyched out after 4 seconds of you being up their ass especially if you know the guy is somewhat skilled and won't drive into you deliberatelywhat you are telling me is to bump into people who are slow on the corner and take my ideal line every time.>>28722232again read here >>28721663>was just a last lap, desperate attempt at something. And I failed to brake in time to avoid collision that time.>It wasn't to illustrate that I had him, rather that he has zero safety regard for a car being near him.the other webms of the same corner are a far better example of me being closer and having to brake to reduce speed because he is slow in the corner which forces me to slow down as well.If I was more skilled, ideally I would have slowed down let him ahead, then go into the corner as fast as I want to, to have good exit speed, and end up catching up to him right after the corners outside, to pass him safely on the straight with superior speed. But I need much more experience to judge a timing like that correctly.
>>28721505How about you learn how to overtake and get of your tits kid. Aint no room for bitch ass pussy boys up in here, we already have Rguy for cum bucket. Sounds like your mom never said no to you - here the door closes instant if you dont let your dick swing freely.
>>28722245>rather that he has zero safety regard for a car being near him.If a car is 3 car lengths behind I'd also have no intention of trying to give him any line because it'd be retarded to try a move from that distance.Each of these attempts you take the worse line with worse exit. Typical AI racer behavior expecting the driver to jump out of the way.>>28721547>>28721559>>28721561>>28721566>>28721572>>28721580All you had to do was take a wider line with a better exit because the track was all momentum with a couple trick corners.
>>28722245No, that's a miscalculation, he tried to do a switchback too close, you do have to keep them tight to stick the overtakeIf your weight distribution wasn't all wonk you'd survive that
>>28722245Holy fuck you are retarded and overanalyzing just get out and race real people and stop this autistic dissection it's stupid to read
>>28721505You have no clue how to overtake. This is just AI youtuber dive bombing and expecting to have every door open for you. I dont understand how you did not win both races with that car that had no tire wear
>>28722245Here was your best chance to overtake. You had better exit and momentum but you started lifting. If you would've kept on the throttle you could've easily been next to or ahead for turn 1.
>>28722276for example
>>28722276>You had better exit and momentumI know, dude, I know. I could be a lot faster in every corner of that race which is why when I got crashed by him twice and had a 15 second gap I could catch up to him. >If you would've kept on the throttle you could've easily been next to or ahead for turn 1.Felt more like I will crash into him mid corner because he is so slow in corners. So I had to lift, break, and not get on throttle when I want to. In general I didn't feel safe to be in front of the dude or behind him. or even on his side.Didn't feel that way with other drivers.But maybe thats just my inexperience speaking, maybe taking the best line and going fast and leaving his safety up to him and not me was the way to go.
>>28722282>I could be a lot faster in every corner of that raceSo why aren't you?
>>28722285You asking when I was near Pastor? or when I wasn't near him?
>>28722286Don't try to go all "if a tree fell down and no one could hear it" over here. Why can't you be a lot faster than him when you're near him?
>>28722286Stop focusing on the Frenchie in the Z3 it's irrelevant to your performance and start focusing on the guy in the AW11
>>28722289>Why can't you be a lot faster than him when you're near him?Because I'm faster in the corner, while he is slow in corner.If I go faster in corner I will bump into him, crashing him or me, or both.If I just drove the way I normally do I would bump into him mid corner every single time.So I can't.If I take a inside line to slip by, he will just turn into me and send me spinning.If I go out on the outside he will just go wide and smash me into the wall.The only safe option I've seen so far is to keep distance from him and wait for him to crash into a wall and then pass him.
>>28722282>when I got crashed by him twiceonce, the other one was you target fixating on him going off track and not even braking when you saw him come back up. That was on you.Getting next to someone is the clearest way to indicate you're gonna overtake, not this weaving back and forth in their mirror and lifting. Be predictable.
>>28722291>Stop focusing on the Frenchie in the Z3 it's irrelevant to your performancehe directly affect my performance due to his driving style and the speed of our cars.Tes for example was far more enjoyable to drive against. He didn't crash into my ass while I Was taking the inner line on the last corner. And I left him space on the outer line towards the finishline. A much more sensible exchange, where the exit speed of our cars decided who got to the finish first.
>>28722293You still don't understand. You keep losing your battle because you keep following a car that's slower than you so close through a corner that you ruin your speed down the straight. Over and over you have more momentum and kill it by braking. Take a wider line and fall marginally back to time it such you have just enough time to pull alongside on corner exit and DONT LIFT ON THE STRAIGHT. There would be no defense against this that isn't ramming you off track.
>>28722296>>28722297Why should pastor do anything but defend against you? He kept doing the same defense and you kept falling for it every time. It's you that suck on this and not pastor you gotta learn
>Fastest car on track>Lose to the Z3 because too scaredpffh, I knew he wasn't a real racer
>>28722295>once, the other one was you target fixating on him going off track and not even braking when you saw him come back up. That was on you.I already explained. I have no idea why he goes full thottle into that corner and crashes like a retard.He has the option to slow down and avoid the crash or at least not full throttle while in the sand to be able to go straight, not crash and get back on track.I expected him to do the reasonable thing, let off the gas, stablizie and instead of bashing into the wall so hard he bounces back inside, to just drive out straight from there.Which is why I though it was a perfect time to pass him.>Getting next to someone is the clearest way to indicate you're gonna overtake,I 100% expect him to turn into my rear axle and spin me out.>not this weaving back and forth in their mirror and lifting.that's just me trying to time an exit on him, and mistiming it, where he is still mid corner and I have to brake to not crash into him.>>28722297>You still don't understand. You keep losing your battle because you keep following a car that's slower than you so close through a corner that you ruin your speed down the straight.That' was actually my first theory after the race, as you can see here: >>28721505>I closed more than 15 second gap between me and that car twice. And every time I get close to him I can't pass him because he just goes slow in the corners and takes up the line.>I guess I should have controlled my space better before a corner and then taken a faster exit speed to safely pass him on a straight.>I think my genuine mistake was staying too close to him before a corner, so I had to slow down, not step on the throttle and being unable to balance the weight of the car as I want.>Over and over you have more momentum and kill it by braking.yes>Take a wider line and fall marginally back to time it such you have just enough time to pull alongside on corner exit and DONT LIFT ON THE STRAIGHTyes, need experience
>>28722300>I have no idea why he goes full thottle into that cornerbecause that's how you take that corner. You give it a small blip on entry and turn in late and back on the gas. It's flat out. Watch any of the top 3 and they do this.All of your reasons are just learned behavior from AI racing. People told you to practice racecraft by racing other people and you went and practiced alone instead.
>>28722298>Why should pastor do anything but defend against you? He kept doing the same defense and you kept falling for it every time. It's you that suck on this and not pastor you gotta learnYeah, I agree, it's not pastor that needs to do something different. It's me.I'm going to need a lot more experience before I can pass people like him cleanly.>>28722299>Fastest car on trackdid you just admit AW11 superiority? >Lose to the Z3 because too scaredfirst race, got to be respectful and not bump into people if I can.>>28722301>because that's how you take that corner. You give it a small blip on entry and turn in late and back on the gas. It's flat out.Not when you mistime it and go off into the wall like a shitter.Mid corner you should see that you are going too fast and are going to go off into the sand or crash.At that point you reduce speed, not flatout and crash. The fuck is this.> Watch any of the top 3 and they do this.My nigger, I did a 1min 7seconds 364 on this track in practice.I know how to take that corner, hint: it isn't going off track and into the wall. That is contrary to popular belief NOT the fastest way to take that corner.But hey, lets assume their cars with the ballast actually need the flatout. It doesn't mean that every car, regardless of it's corner entry needs to.If your particular car is overspeeding, and going wide into the wall on exit, then clearly you were going too fast and didn't need to flat out in the sandpit.Control your throttle and you wont smash into the wall.But hey this isn't my problem, he can keep doing it if he wants to.My problem is that I didn't think people actually have lead feet and rather crash than be a faction slower while being safe.Which is why your comments about me having to expect him to smash into the wall hard are quaint at best
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>>28722319>did you just admit AW11 superiority?You have almost no ballast from SUCCESS so yeah it's the fastest car on track currently. The MR2 does 1.06 very easily on tahiti road.>first raceunderstandable
>>28722332>You have almost no ballast from SUCCESS so yeah it's the fastest car on track currently. The MR2 does 1.06 very easily on tahiti road.AW11superiority chads we eating good tonight!>first race>understandable
>>28722319Why don't you join the mumble when we are racing so we could have this conversation when it's actually relevant
>>28722319>Not when you mistime it and go off into the wall like a shitter.Target fixation.>My nigger, I did a 1min 7seconds 364 on this track in practice.That's slow for the AW11, it easily does 1min 5s>I know how to take that cornerI watched the whole replay, you cut in way too early for almost every corner and you hesitate on your inputs.>But hey this isn't my problemIt literally is, you target fixated on a faster driver in a slower car and you're trying to reason your way around him when all you had to do was press the gas pedal.>My problem is that I didn't think people actually have lead feetYou go off the track constantly on gravel and keep your foot in as well. Tahiti road hardly punished for it unless you hit a wall.
>>28722344>Why don't you join the mumble when we are racing so we could have this conversation when it's actually relevantThe race started an hour earlier than I expected so I had no time to do so, neither the time to warm up.>That's slow for the AW11, it easily does 1min 5sShow me the replay>I watched the whole replay, you cut in way too early for almost every corner and you hesitate on your inputs.You mean during the race, or the webm I posted?>You go off the track constantly on gravel and keep your foot in as well.I'm assuming you are talking about the race then.As I said I didn't have time to warm up. I pretty much rushed into the qualifying and then race. So I was driving no where near what I'd like.
>>28722379Fast lap is on the doc in your cars note>You mean during the race, or the webm I posted?Entire race.Everyone gets the same amount of time to practice and the countdown timer is always on the doc
Remember when I asked you what time of day the race takes place in game? >>28716407>>28716542And you mocked me for it? >>28716559and said >>28716551>12:00 maybeWell the thing I worried would happen, happened.It didn't take place at 12.00.So because the shadows were different, I though the sand pits extended further than they actually did.Bottom image is the race track at 12.00The top image is the race track on race day.So I got fucked over by the thing I literally expected to happen, tried to avoid from happening, and got mocked for even worrying about it.>>28722383>Fast lap is on the doc in your cars noteThanks I will check it out.>Entire race.As I said, didn't warm up and rushed to the race. What was supposed to be a chill warm up and dial in and then race turned into last minute rush to the computer. was tilted most of the time.> countdown timer is always on the docyeah, I have no idea how that mistake happened. I even double checked it 5 hours before to get the timing right.If that anon didn't post in the thread that the race was starting in 25 min, I'd have missed it entirely.
>>28722390NOOOOOOOOOO MOMMMY THE SUN WAS DIFFERENT I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PART OF THE TRACK
>>28722390>he uses shadows as brake markersYou know why we told you it doesn't matter? Because it shouldn't, you're learning bad habbits from practicing alone, never use brake markers that CHANGE THEIR POSITIONS.Use physical static objects as your visual markers, even track side brake markers can sometimes be knocked down. And if they can be, they will be.
>>28722395>damn, if shadows move around, my reference points might be messed up>better practice at the time the race will take place>race takes place at a different time and a shadow makes it look like the sand area is much bigger than it actually is>messing up my placement on the trackhonestly, the more I look over this, the more I realize what an utter clusterfuck it was for me.>>28722396in this particular case it's not about when to break, it's about where to place my car before breaking and taking a corner.The illusion in this case was that the sandpits extent further than they do. In fact it's only after watching the replays do I realize I fell for that shit. Because when I practiced I didn't have that shit, I had "ah yes, this darker patch of ground is sand pits, stay on the light side of the road".Anyway, it's stupid that I get both mocked for trying to avoid this, then get pushed into the very thing I wanted to avoid.
>>28722399Keep in mind that using shadows as a guide isn't just a rookie mistake everyone has to go through at least once but AC's time of day syncing for MP is very inconsistent. It's not that uncommon to have a different looking time of day compared to other players on the same server
>>28722402>Keep in mind that using shadows as a guide isn't just a rookie mistake everyone has to go through at least once but AC's time of day syncing for MP is very inconsistent.Again, I can handle brake markers, but shadow extending the visual sandpits.>It's not that uncommon to have a different looking time of day compared to other players on the same serverwell I wish I knew this beforehand so I could load up the server and look at the track at different times to spot problem areas like this in advance.
>>28722390>So because the shadows were different, I though the sand pits extended further than they actually did.>So I got fucked over by the thing I literally expected to happen, tried to avoid from happening, and got mocked for even worrying about it.all of your excuses are fucking stupid. you had a week to practice and "dial in" a fucking stock alignment. there aren't that many setup parameters to adjust. your car is unballasted and because of this significantly faster than the rest of the field, so you only need to tweak for personal taste. also use the track map or radar apps to avoid causing huge wrecks like r3guy
>>28722399For anything never use shadows or tire marks or even track surface marks as a reference points because whatever can be obscured or covered during a racing situation is not a good marker. Use off-track objects and their relations to that. Like a building coming past a barrier or your A-pillar passing a electric post.Don't try to reinvent the wheel with some new methods, quickest way you learn is by following fast guys and seeing what they do and asking questions. So you're doing way better than some gyus already.Also, if you're not using it yet you should get a radar app.
>>28722390also you shouldn't be looking at the left side here for a brake marker, you're supposed to be looking where you're going, always. You're not gonna gain extra time from braking 1m later than the optimal but you can lose several tenths from it. Focus on smooth entry and fast exit and always have your eyes where you're going next, not where you are now.
>>28722404>well I wish I knew this beforehand so I could load up the server and look at the track at different times to spot problem areas like this in advance.the server is up for an entire week before the race>>28722399>The illusion in this case was that the sandpits extent further than they do. In fact it's only after watching the replays do I realize I fell for that shit. Because when I practiced I didn't have that shit, I had "ah yes, this darker patch of ground is sand pits, stay on the light side of the road".because it's a video game that shaded texture could be literally anything. dirt can be solid, tarmac can be dirt.drive over there and put rubber on it. also having radar app up will show the edges of the road.it sounds like you just do mindless hot laps, you don't actually practice at all, practice would involve investigating anomalies like that.
>>28722415>the server is up for an entire week before the raceackshually tes only puts it up like 2 days before the race unlike for all other series
Why do racing games customisation suck balls?You used to be able to slap a body kit on a Porsche/RUF etc but nowadays you’re lucky to be even able to change the spoiler. Fuck this shit so much man.
>>28722447This Is Why You Learn Blender....... Unlimited Customization, In Any Game You Want....
>>28722390>he didn't read blackflag.pdf
God damn for a supposedly first time racing aw11bro definitely sounds hella raped. Shit like this comes with time, I remember when I started racing online it was also pretty horrible, but it was basically heaven compared to the average OVG racecraft. I think the first lesson you should take here that maybe five people can drive and like two of them don't drive like total assholes, rest is just experience farming
>>28722469>five people can drive>two of them don't drive like total assholeswhen I think about this pastor is one of those two lmao
aw11 nigger, literally play any sim/simcade that has ranked match making (LMU, GT7, iRenting, keksport, Raceroom, AC/ACC LFM) and your racecraft will become good after a few weeks or months. stop with the cope, get good, stop racing against AC's dogshit AI, start racing against real people regularly (at least a few times a day) and maybe read or watch some guides on how not to be shit and be consistent. since you like shitboxes, unironically do miatas in iracing and you'll learn eventually
>>28722405>all of your excuses are fucking stupid. you had a week to practice and "dial in" a fucking stock alignment.I didn't have a whole week, I had other things I needed to do. In any case I feel I got enough practice to know the track the issue was last minute changes(time of day) and no warm up before the race for me because of mismannaged time. That's on me.>there aren't that many setup parameters to adjust. I'm new, so it takes more for me to get even basics sorted.> also use the track map or radar apps to avoid causing huge wrecks like r3guyI though spotter was enough, but I will take you upon this advice and try to get radar too.>>28722413>also you shouldn't be looking at the left side here for a brake markerI don't. I look it to see where the edge of the road is.>you're supposed to be looking where you're going, always.to the edge of the road before breaking and turning in to apex.>Focus on smooth entry and fast exit and always have your eyes where you're going next, not where you are now.look at these webms >>28722319>>28722320>>28722323>>28722415>the server is up for an entire week before the racethats not true, why say shit that isn't true?>because it's a video game that shaded texture could be literally anything. dirt can be solid, tarmac can be dirt.yeah, thats the problem.>it sounds like you just do mindless hot laps, you don't actually practice at all, practice would involve investigating anomalies like that.what do you mean nigger, I literally asked for time of day or the race to investigate any such anomalies to avoid them.No I a can't investigate every track at every time of day to be prepared for such things.
>>28722510https://game.raceroom.com/store/pack/online-racing-pack-xxl yea buy the raceroom pack. There's packed races every day now on it
>>28722581all your points are moot because you shouldn't use shadows as brake markers
>>28722469Ah, I'm most upset about not getting practice and warm up time before the race. Not racing at my best sucks the most. especially if some person will look up replays and judge my tilted rushed mindset driving.Second worst is me causing a crash.Third most annoying is asking for a day time to avoid issues. then getting a time that wasn't correct and run into said issues.Forth is getting cocklocked and assfucked by the BMW car. It's not terrible in an of itself not being able to pass him, it's more of my inexperience to do so. Just wanted to check out other drivers in this cup and how they drive and such.Meanwhile BMW is acting possessive yandere and would rather kill us both than let me go.>>28722477Where is tes on that scale? The little experience I had with him, he was very gentlemanly about his driving near me.And what are the other drivers? Actually name them, so I will know in the future to look out for them.So far my only problem was pastor, but who knows, I didn't get to driver others too much.>>28722510>start racing against real people regularly (at least a few times a day)I can manage 1 race against real people a week at most right now. Even that is pushing it.>>28722585trolling at this point? Because I repeatedly said I don't.
You don't need time immediately before a race to practice. You don't get that irl either.
>>28722589stop thinking so hard about it, join the mumble on race day and yell at or get yelled at your fellow black men
hey mr2man next week let's hop on the server 2h before race and practice some overtakes and side-by-sides, i could use a bit of traffic training too
>>28722660I have only one question. Who is speaking?
>>28722677me
How is AC Rally, niggas?
>>28722693fake and gay>>28722660 was my post
>>28722701you are also me
>>28722677show up on the appointed time and you'll see who....
>no free dedicated servers for ass-etto corsa evoluzioneit's over
>>28722833ACE will never replace AC1 anyway with their stance on modding. Kunos doesn't understand why their first game was a succes. if CSP, CM or SOL didn't exist nobody would be playing AC1 today.
>>28720881Kino
>>28722697content light but the core systems are very good, alsace is the best feeling tarmac rally stage youll get in vidya
>>28722838AC1 isn't successful because of kunos. with no mods, it's nothing more than a hotlap simulator because of its shit AI. if it didn't have the amount of mods it did, it would have ended up just like rF2. the same thing is probably gonna happen to ACE.>>28722841is this vintage petite le mans? kek
stop playing ac and start racevrooming
>>28722390You have lots of excuses rather than just admiting you do not know how to race or compete in childrens video game with any other than a AI slop.You are slowest driver with a car that has 0 ballast and non wear tires. You literally suck and still you decided to counter anons with dozen clips from the race just proving everyone right and you wrong. You failed racing and you even failed cheating.
>>28722942wow mr2 guy really got under your skini bet he beat you
>>28721345thanks, sweet charger
>>28722399All this these autismal tantrum paragraphs strewn across the thread, and you don't even know how to spell "brake".
>>28720881cute
>>28723016Literally Irenting wife edition. Bet her husband got her a cayenne/macan
Does anyone happen to own STCC-The Game 1 and/or RaceOn?If so I'm looking for somebody to upload the Teams and Talent folder because I'm trying to complete my collection
>>28723076I got the rFactor mod if that helps
>>28722947Gimme a "brake" pal
>>28723016You'd have to have full blown yellow fever blindness to think that was anything special.
>>28723083appreciate it, but that's something else entirelyI found an.iso archive online, but some of these games don't have any gamedata files on them since they were steam releases. So I'm looking for STCC 08 and WTCC 08, if possible also WTCC10 because the Ladas are missing for some reasonStill fun though
>>28722589>Actually name themMost people know how to defend amount of space you get is how assertive you are
>>28721444txr 25 is ps2 shovelware with a ue5 shader.but like in a good way
>>28723130>>28721444>>28721461honestly txr should've remained dead and be reborn as a continually updated passion project by an indie dev that "gets" the game, understands what genki tried to achievei'm honestly not blown away with txr25, it's an ok game and they did make pretty good improvements with v1.0, but i really can't escape the feeling that a game like it still deserves better
>>28722594>You don't need time immediately before a race to practice. You don't get that irl either.I need it though.>>28722595>and yell at or get yelled at your fellow black menthe flag I have is for comedic purposes, I'm not actually a nigger that likes to chimp out.>>28723090Carlos!>>28723129I will try to live up to the name then.
>>28723076i would but for some reason i have all the DLC's bar that one. If you have discord try and join the raceroom one it's likely someone on there has all the files
It's hard looking back at LMU and iRacing after playing Rennsport for the past weekend.
>>28723232No, Saudi Arabia will never be relevant
>>28722677it does not matter who we arewhat matters is our plan...
>>28722418Just in case someone new joins and submits a car
>>28723181.. so you have one of the two?good shout with the discord, will investigate
Need for Speed Heat is actually good??
so, rennsport
>>28723343
>>28723306I have Stcc II yes
>>28723076I've got both - how should I send them?
>>28723390very cooluploading to mega or sth similar is probably the easiest routeIf the Gamedata folders are too big, i'd love to have>teams/WTCC_2009>teams/STCC_2009>talent>sounds/car
>>28723419Trying to upload the gamedata folders now.Wetransfer just gives me a stupid "hmm, something went wrong" zero information error.
>>28723419Tried something called smash. Got hit my a 15 minute wait timer after I did the upload stuff :((((((((((( I'll keep trying things. The mega upload failed mid way through because I renamed the folders lol.
>>28718571slr mclel
>>28723419>>28723076Here you go, Monsieur. It is mega now.slash folder slash 5MICXCpDThe key to your treasure is: fbddG21zUmWaaNzx0cvkWQDo let me know when you have them, so I can obliterate the folder from this earthly realm.
wait you guys all race in Assetto Corsa?do you ever do beam.ng? I want to race my imaginary car companies imaginary cars that I make in automation
No racing game fits all these:>Large open world>Actual fun races>Progression system>Has you start in shitboxes>Modern-ish cars>Decent car customization, not just change rims but can slap on bumbers, diffusers etc
>>28723490Underground 2?Modern-ish would be a stretch these days, though. Carbon would just about fit that, but the starter cars are too good!
>>28723490NFS Heat with these exact mods.And all of it works online.
rennsport is pretty fun why the fuck is it negative?
>>28723544I forgot to add>Non dogshit soundtrack
>>28723482there is the occasional beamng one-off. there is likely going to be a christmas special event in beam so look forward to that i guess. last event's theme was movie heroes, pulling stunts etc. not really racing but still fun
>>28723569The game's been "out" for two years. The developers are clowns and have no idea what they're doing despite all the Porsche and Saudi money funding them. The content is not worth the price and they made the most garbage vehicle in existence (BMW M2 CS Racing) the free car. And most importantly, the game is fucking broken. They just slapped 1.0 on it and called it a day.No I have not played it despite receiving a closed beta key. Them getting caught with an rF2 tire and lying about their physics model was funny though.
wheremst've new beamng tire model
who needs macau when you have daytona>>28723569it'll be dead within 6 months. bad reviews and PMR will steal its thunder if its any good
he definitely didn't overtake me at international horseshoe
>>28723570whats the mod for this one?
>>28723698>>28723701>>28723707too many poorsches to rape so i had to settle for 3rd
anybody got a torrent for the F1C VB mod, don't want to make a faceberg account to suck up to the mod creator and hope he links me to his private server
>>28723288If I pull this pass off, will you die?
>>28723861it would be extremely painful
>>28723865You're a heavy guy
>>28723478Thank you so much! Grabbed the files, will check out if everything bolts together later today.
>>28722390https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXTQeSGJjGM
Can anybody help me with LUT generator for AC.I remember there was some google doc that takes your 10 lut generates, averages them and then fixes it up somehow.The issue I had was that the doc didn't do the math for me on my pc.Don't remember where that link was now.
>>28723490ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKbKch_hzg
>>28722369>That's slow for the AW11, it easily does 1min 5s>easilythe best I can manage is 1min 6seconds 657.I looked at the replay you made and I have no idea. It looks like you simply have more grip and stability to keep on going at higher speed. While if I attempt to carry the same speed the wheels just lose traction.I don't know if it's the car setup or you used tire blankets or straight up edited the car stats. But I have no idea how to make the car not slip hard when doing the same shit you do in that replay.I guess give me your car setup as well and I can try with that, but it seems pretty hopeless.
poorsche xisters we just cant catch a break>>28724113car setup in this scenario isn't going to make you a second faster, you need to just put in more seat time. copying someone else's inputs 1:1 doesn't really work unless you're actually good
>>28724118>car setup in this scenario isn't going to make you a second faster,it could help, if my car setup is really retarded> copying someone else's inputs 1:1 doesn't really work unless you're actually goodNot exactly copying, but I do have a >oh yeah, I remember this section if I floor it the tires will lose traction and I lose timewhile in this webm, he just holds gas down and the car stays stable.
>>28724122just watch some suellio almedia videos bro
>>28724122If a setup magically makes you 1 second faster it's placebo or you have humongous aero that was turned down for long straights. Guess which one it would be for an AW11.
anytbody got this mod uploaded somewhere?https://www.overtake.gg/downloads/track-map-display-extended.51962/
>>28724293Do you not have a racedepartment account or are too schizo to make one?
>>28724298too schizo, just gimme a mod pack of all the things you think people should use on a race in ACsomebody said radar mod, I got that at least the one that was built in content managernow I need a decent track map at least.
>>28724302Well get over it. There's nothing else you need anyway. Radars are for shitters. Track maps are useless.
>>28724302Do it yourself you lazy ass nigger
just get triples or vr, radars suck anyways
>>28724337i still use a radar with trips and vr because it looks coollike daytona usa
>>28724311>>28724319the site tells me to login or register.Even though I registered and am logged in.
should i get flatout 2 or ultimate carnage
luv me porsche simple as
>>28724603Are ya running BBS' yet?
so, iracing or lmu
>>28724687LMU
>>28724687Raceroom
>>28724692>>28724711These
>>28724687LMU doesnt really have that much content, but its systems are better than iRacing's. if you're poor then go with LMU, but I recommend both.
>>287236642 more wyears
>>28724687automobilista 2 :trolled:
>>28724687nascar rumble
got my answer about the F1 game future from the previous threadhttps://www.gtplanet.net/f1-26-expansion-f1-25-20251118/
>>28724816
>>28724821advice?
>>28724823Why are you practicing last week's track? Also everyone told you to start racing against real people to get some racecraft but you continue just to drive with yourself and then on the wrong trackSir are you retarded!?!?!
>>28724833>you should practice car control on a track you don't know instead of the track you do know>Saar saar are you rETaRDeD?! DO NOT REDEEEM THE TAHITIIIIIM!!!!
>>28724851But your problem isn't car control, it's that you have no idea how to race actual people
>>28724854It's both. Isn't it obvious?
>>28720881A3 SA : AM Audi Anthrazit. Geht in before ITS too Latte.
>>28724833>Sir are you retarded!?!?!just /ovg/ things
>$25 for ac rally demo>We have rally sim at home
>>28724113>>28724816>>28724821>>28724823Stop thinking you're Senna with that throttle stabbing, commit and stop hesitating. It's a pretty good lap otherwise, could use slightly more momentum and later apex.I didn't use blankets thats why the replay has several laps and the last one being fastest. The MR2 rotates pretty easily under heavy braking and sharp changes of direction so smooth inputs to load up front and applying throttle help keep the car steady and gripped. Setup was stock I just changed the tire pressures.
Miats@Portimao in RRJust gave it a couple laps in practice, I don't have time for a race in the morningDefinitely racing there in the afternoon
>>28725403Hell yea brother. I'm racing the Aquila and Porsche 944 this week.
>>28725336also just replicating someones fast lap doesn't make you as fast during a race. Real key is consistency, not making mistakes or pushing for the sake of a tenth. Being able to race others and avoid wrecks is what gets you podiums, especially in ovg.
>>28725336>Stop thinking you're Senna with that throttle stabbing, commit and stop hesitating.I don't know what Sena does. I simply do the inputs I feel to keep the car stable.>It's a pretty good lap otherwise, could use slightly more momentum and later apex.How can I trick/que myself to do that?>I didn't use blankets>Setup was stock I just changed the tire pressures.thats wild, what were the tire pressures?>>28725413>also just replicating someones fast lap doesn't make you as fast during a race.No, but being able to go fast past a certain point means you have a certain level of understanding and car control you can't just hit randomly.From my analysis, the only way I can go faster is if I master a specific thing that is too advanced for me right now to hit consistently, so I will have to leave it for later.>Real key is consistencyTrue, simply not crashing once is more important than shaving off three tenths of a second on a lap. >Being able to race others and avoid wrecks is what gets you podiums, especially in ovg.For the most part I think I have capped out how much I can increase car control for now. So it's most sensible to focus on racecraft now and get big boosts from not crashing into others and knowing how to pass safely.
>>28725439
>>28725441
>>28724341simulation value = 200%
>>28725439I can't believe you're still here.Just drive faster.
>>28725453
>>28724113KEK how about you learn to dose the throttle and brake ya twat. Everyone did easy 1:06 lap with that car, come to mattermost and find out how bad you are
>>28725439Hi rguy
>>28725460>Everyone did easy 1:06 lap with that car, come to mattermost and find out how bad you areNoooooooooooo how will my ego ever recover!>>28725463explain
>>28725468
>>28725439>I don't know what Sena does.He stabbed the throttle, on the webms you can see your hesitation of going on throttle - letting off and going back on it all in one corner entry.>How can I trick/que myself to do that?Comes with experience of driving different cars and tires, experimenting with entry speeds.>thats wild, what were the tire pressures?I use app called "sidekicker" it can show you the optimal tire pressure as +-delta, it just tells you how much you need to increase or decrease. Drive a few laps and see how much you need to adjust.>No, but being able to go fast past a certain point means you have a certain level of understanding and car control you can't just hit randomlyCar control up to the level where you're in control of your car even with variables, eg. someone bumping you. If someone bumps you and it automatically makes you spin you're lacking car control. This comes with racecraft and driving against real people.>I have capped out how much I can increase car control for now.From what I saw in race and replay you lost control quite often from small slip ups and minor contact. Make sure your FFB is set correctly and its not clipping (its the left most bar in pedal app, if its blinking red its too high and you're losing fidelity).
>>28725466It wont... You continue driving against AI slop, but since you had your butt fucked in the internet it will never be the same. Gradually your defeat starts to drill your mind, little by little and you end up tossing your G29 and start planning where you can attach the other end of your therapy rope to escape your selfcentric weak mind.
what is it about ovg that gathers so many specimens of humanity?
just got 4 back to back podiums at daytona in irenting this week so far and on my way to 3k irenting pointsmr2chuddie, where are your podiums bro? ai slop races don't count
>>28725439your lines are ass, you don't understand the concept of momentum and you're driving the car at like 80 percent, you're cooked nigga
>>28725471>He stabbed the throttle, on the webms you can see your hesitation of going on throttle - letting off and going back on it all in one corner entry.But isn't that natural? Somewhat fethering the throttle, or going a bit up and down to see how the grip and balance of the car is handling it?Surely just mashing full throttle is not the answer because that is basically asking a lot from the car and if it can't manage that it will slide.>Comes with experience Well then there isn't much to be done about that yet.>I use app called "sidekicker" it can show you the optimal tire pressure as +-delta, it just tells you how much you need to increase or decrease. Drive a few laps and see how much you need to adjust.Sounds great for somebody like me, il check it out.>Car control up to the level where you're in control of your car even with variables, eg. someone bumping you. If someone bumps you and it automatically makes you spin you're lacking car control.>From what I saw in race and replay you lost control quite often from small slip ups and minor contact.yeah, bumping into people or getting bumped is gonna send me spinning out at the moment.>Make sure your FFB is set correctly and its not clipping (its the left most bar in pedal app, if its blinking red its too high and you're losing fidelity).Ya know, you are right about this, because I got the FFB clip app and it's helped make the FFB a lot better. I hate the fact that shit like this isn't default and you need to fuck around with LUTs and apps to just get FFB that isn't bad. The worst part is you don't even know if it's bad or if it's supposed to be bad like that.I also set the break gamma to 1 now, since it was on 2.4>>28725475>you're driving the car at like 80 percentwoah, show me you driving the car at 100%
>>28725483>woah, show me you driving the car at 100%no, the other anon is retarded too your biggest issue is that you simply don't understand how to use the brakes at all, stabbing the throttle to move the car around is how you need to drive the shitty ac tyres fast in a road car, you apply 90 percent brake pressure in one blip at a slight right hand corner which completely kills your corner speed that's why you're in the middle of the track at corner exit and you don't use the brakes at all to rotate the car
>>28725483HE STILL CAN'T SPELL BRAKE
>>28725471oh nooo, is this the shit you are talking about? https://www.overtake.gg/downloads/sidekick.11007/cause I can't use that site>>28725486>and you don't use the brakes at all to rotate the carit's a MR, it rotates a lot as is, it doesn't really need help from brakes>>28725487don't break the friendly atmosphere we have going here, instead gimme a brake
>>28725487I still think his behaviour is 90% bait, despite him actually showing up
>>28725489>it's a MR, it rotates a lot as is, it doesn't really need help from brakesLMAO
>>28725489>it's a MR, it rotates a lot as is, it doesn't really need help from brakesshut up and learn to trailbrake properly nigga, thank me later the free lesson is over
>>28725490>the voices!they are in the walls>>28725491>>28725492Even I know well enough to not fall for this.
>>28725500>Even I know well enough to not fall for this.stay slow then fuck do I care
>>28725502> fuck do I carethat's the point, you don't.
>>28725442this is a perfect example of why you're slow as fuck, 90 percent brake pressure for 0.001 seconds and zero trailbraking and downshifting to 3rd for literally no other reason than to kill a bit more momentum
>>28725490probably but he's still slow so the joke is on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK6kE0ftFA0qrd for you mr2chuddie
>>28725468gotchu senpai
>>28725510>>28725518and yet you wont stop Ireting for 2min to do a lap and show us how it's done.What's the matter, don't have AC? The tracks and cars are right there.I await your godly lap of driving the car at 100% and trail-breaking every corner.
>>28725525>trail-breakingmultiple people have already showed you how its done already, we're trying to help you not be slow but you don't listen
>>28725528you are seething at me most of the time because the voices in your head tell you it's all an elaborate ploy to toy with youAs I said, go make a lap and show me.I know you can make webms.
>>28725483>But isn't that natural? Somewhat fethering the throttleFeathering yes, but what I can see is that you're doing 25-50-100-50-25-50-100% movements on entry, feathering is much more gentle and when you're at the limit of your grip.>Well then there isn't much to be done about that yet.Variables can accelerate your learning, driving a lot of different cars on different tracks speeds up this process rather than sticking to 1 car and small selection of tracks.>I hate the fact that shit like this isn't default and you need to fuck around with LUTsSet your wheels FFB to like 75-80%, then in Assetto Corsa use the Force Feedback app that looks like a wheel, you can save car specific FFB's there ingame.>>28725489yes, that's the app.damn I wish the guys who have been bad & slow for years would show as much interest in improving. Everyone complaining about you asking genuine questions is a slow ass shitter.
>>28725473it's one guy talking to himself
>>28725525the sim you're playing makes as much of a difference as a setup doesMost of the time to gain is in technique
>>28725525>guys why am I shit>retard this is why you're shit>waaah I don't believe you hotlap this bitch ass ps1 track in my shitty ass broken mod car now!I'm good
>>28725525>>28725529https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6pmrurBkKAmasterclass by 2x rolex 24 at daytona winner daniel moradlisten and learn
>>28725405I hated the 944 until I put it in HI just can't get the clutch-shift timing with the paddles right
>>28725489>cause I can't use that sitewhat did the user mean by this
>>28725486I bet you're slow
>>28725539Don't forget to buy his gloves that definitely aren't from aliexpress
>>28725556the secret to being 1 second faster at the mighty tahiti road
>>28725552I bet you're slow and gay too checkmate nigger
>>28725531>Feathering yes, but what I can see is that you're doing 25-50-100-50-25-50-100% movements on entry, feathering is much more gentle and when you're at the limit of your grip.I see, so it's the backing down that is the problem, not the gradual bumping up.What is a correct feathering numbers wise?>Variables can accelerate your learning, driving a lot of different cars on different tracks speeds up this process rather than sticking to 1 car and small selection of tracks.This doesn't make sense to me, you want to establish some kind of consistency and then make small changes and see how the car reacts and times change.If I change car and track all the time, I will just be discombobulated and not know if the change is caused by my handling of the car or the many other new factors.Isolating the variables just makes sense.>yes, that's the app.any chance any of the anons can upload it to MEGA or some other filehosting site? I really can't access overtake site.>damn I wish the guys who have been bad & slow for years would show as much interest in improving.Can't really comment, I don't know how good or bad people are or what they personally find fun.Webm related is fun for me. Turning the car with brakes. In dirt4 you just need to get the amount and timing right to get the car to turn in, the duration of the slip angle turning the car is short and controlled.In AC the car easily over rotates and easily slips the back end, or it locks into turning and it's hard to pull the car out of that state, so you again over rotate. In dirt 4 there is a generous zone where your tires can bite into the road and you get out of it.In AC the zone is a lot smaller and it's really hard to get just the right amount of bite into the road to get the car to start rotating itself with the slip angle of the tires, but then not overdo it.>Everyone complaining about you asking genuine questions is a slow ass shitter.isn't it just one dude who just plays Irent?
>>28725533fixing the FFB literally makes it easier to go faster and be more consistent.Why are you pretending that nothing matters except technique of the driver.when equipment, setup of the game, setup of the car, experience on track and so on can all make a difference.Not to say technique isn't the primary driving force, but damn, why pretend all of the other stuff doesn't help?>>28725534didn't expect you to pussy out like that, considering how easy it is>>28725544as in they want you to log in, but reject my accounts.
>>28725568I might be gay, jury is still out on that. But I do have a replay to prove I'm not slow. Where's yours?
>>28725593>so it's the backing down that is the problemit's the hesitation, put your pedal down when you know you're going to accelerate and not pump it and unsettle the car.>This doesn't make sense to meBecause you haven't done it, if you're a chef you don't just learn one knife really well. Skill translates across cars. The guys who are fast in ovg are fast across the board in any series, you always see the same guys regardless.
>>28725593>you want to establish some kind of consistency and then make small changes and see how the car reacts and times change.Yes.>If I change car and track all the time, I will just be discombobulated and not know if the change is caused by my handling of the car or the many other new factorsYes but that's the point. You don't need to know why exactly those differences occur yet but instead just know that they exist and how to deal with them. The rest falls into place after that.It's the difference between learning a specific corner on a specific track with a specific car by brute force and learning how any car can take any corner well
>>28725614im a certified multiple ovg race winner and you're a retard who couldn't muster a single overtake in a nu-ovg series
>>28725622>multiple ovg race winnerI've passed more cars in a single race than you've done entire season
>>28725622you've never done an OVERtake
>>28725556there is only 1 pair of racing gloves that you can wear while playing your video games without being a fag
rate my breaking
>>28725625>cheating the rolling start like a niggeramazing racecraft
>>28725719only went on green and as per rules, get overtaken kiddo
>>28725633>OVERtake>giant lawnmower thats rad
FBI, yeah.... you are gonna want to see this one
the only thing I've learned from this whole ordeal is that rallychuddies fucking suck at circuit racing and the skills do not transfer, or that dirt 4 anon is just a terrible sim racer
>>28726080oy veyim a certified multiple lmu race winner
>>28726080The irony here is the one who's trying to help him in AC is generally the best guy at rallying in /ovg/
>>28726080>rallychuddies fucking suck at circuit racing and the skills do not transferalso goes the completely other direction, I'd argue even moresot. high downforce brainlet>or that dirt 4 anon is just a terrible sim racerThis is also true. Kid's just a total newfag to it and getting around to circuit racing generally takes an amount of time, not much to get around it
>>28726089moral of the story is that rallychads are good, happy people
is anyone here good at circuit racing?
>>28726097Yeah I am the certified #1 winningest driver in /ovg/ history
>>28726097the top certified ovg winners still here are like bottom 2nd rate at best
>>28726097depends what you mean by goodtop split esports driver who can manage top 10s consistently against aliens? i'd have to quit my job and dedicate my life to this shit to get to that level
>>28726158>top split esports driver who can manage top 10s consistently against aliensthis is actually a bad answer because those niggas literally know nothing but hotlapping, and because they're all at about the same level, they all just hotlap in a nice train from start to finish
>>28726097Few years ago I did some rounds of the Chevy Cruze Cup. Not sure if I was "good" but I was never the slowest and never broke anything
>>28726164>they all just hotlap in a nice train from start to finishthat's every irenting GT3 lobby unless you play during non peak hours
>>28726167Not wrong, but in the lower elo the variance is way higher, people make genuine mistakes, shitters crash out etc etc. All the 6k+'s instead just turn their griphacks on and go on their merry ways
The high-ups are debating what car will they use as their new repmobile and have sent you out to find, then design one. Your design will be sent though a series of challenges with you at the helm. First challenge is already here: Marketing says you must 'better represent the brand' during this dot com boom, Visually modify your car to better represent 4chan, WAT or OVG as a brand and invest into our stocks. Bonus points for effort and uniqueness Prizes for first place will be a luxury suite in our prestigious WTC2 offices or two bottles of decade aged Austrian wineGo out and find a sales rep car that was in production in the year 1997. what is allowed will be determined by car segment, displacement and tyre quality (of your automation car), a chart with details included is in the wiki.>Depending on car decided, cylinder count, wheelbase and drivetrain should be same. Weight should be equal or greater. Anything else should be equal to, or of lesser quality.>Automation will be judged using the Al Rilma update>Nothing should have an immediate 'fix' warning>Engine components shouldn't be stressed over 12%>5 quality points either way>unleaded fuels only>must be compliant up to WES8 (in-game emission standard)>No strictly race dependent parts - Automation does quite clearly define race and non-race parts in-game.>Car must have a tow bar added - It wont be held against you if you make it invisible for styling purposes.>Make a second trim and .car file for the marketing challengeGallery & Uploading>Previous rules on gallery. Imgur is allowed but not recommended.>Upload images and .car file - Upload a .zip if you've modified the file after exporting>Submission deadline will be on the 23th of December, BeamNG challenges will begin on the 27th of DecemberFurther deets and rules here: https://wiki.get-good.net/index.php?title=4th_gear_4 Sign up on the sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=687638149
>>28726178and i'll never match 6k iR pace because it just seems impossible to me with the limited time i have, so i'm stuck in 2k+ SOF splits. i also don't think i'd benefit much from coaching either, because, once the next track is on the rotation everything would go out of the window
>>28726182>>Submission deadline will be on the 23th of December, BeamNG challenges will begin on the 27th of December
>>28726189awww fuck forgot to update the dates.>Submission deadline will be on the 4th of February, BeamNG challenges will begin on the 7th of February
>>28720881
>>28726185>once the next track is on the rotation everything would go out of the windowSemi-genuine question, does your pattern recognition just not work or what's your deal?
>>28726202idk im just slow as shit on some tracks. there'll be weeks where i gain 0 irating, and then other weeks with tracks im more comfortable with where I gain a lot and it becomes somewhat inflated
>>28726208to add to this, the tracks im good at are usually the cookie cutter ones like monza, spa, daytona, watkins glen, etc... but if you put shit like portlmao or COTA in the mix im dead
>>28726224I don't think you know what cookie-cutter means
>>28726229my point is the popular tracks im good at, the less popular ones, not so much because they're frustrating.
>>28726244I don't have your troubles, since I know no tracks, thus all tracks are equally challenging
>>28726244thry're frustrating because you keep avouding themportimao is really fun once you get the hang of it for example
>>28726264if participation for them weren't so low i'd be more inclined to learn them. there just isn't much motivation when you get matched up against 7k+ aliens
>>28726189*23rd
>>28726271that's the best bit about LMUeveryone is forced into some of the odd tracksYeah, most people flock to the usual ones when available, but sometimes they aren't
>>28725532there's a lot of one guys talking to themselves then
How much does AC pay to shill for them?
>>28726388beamng has no stages
>>28726413beam has at least 5 stages in its rally mode preview .what are you talking about?
>>28726413>>28726451I just like east coast
>>28726451well that's more than acr
>>28720881Time of day and air temperature for Complex string track on sunday race?Also a philosophical question. What difference does it make if you ballast people with more car weight, vs less engine torque?
>>28726264>Only runs top 10 most raced tracksaverage iRacer>Only runs most obscure shit known to manaverage ovg enjoyer
>>28726880such as this
>>28726852More car weight affects handling (weight shift) in a way that less engine torque does not.
>>28726852>What difference does it make if you ballast people with more car weight, vs less engine torque?what a stupid fucking question you have asked. do you have more of them??>Time of day and air temperature for Complex string track on sunday race?that was a rhetorical i didnt expect you to come up with something even more stupid...
>>28723148The fuck are you talking about, all genki was trying to do was milk their kusoge for all it was worth. Six games in six years and the only good ones were the first two, which they rightly based the new one on.
>>28726990>the only good ones were the first twoNigha what? 3 is the best one.
>>28726852brother this is basically shitbox folk racing not formula one
>>28727151Please understand>shadows shift 10 degrees>ahhHH!!! where am I? Who am I?
New guy is gonna be in trouble when we start running StormX weather in AC series and the weather starts effecting grip
>>28727174me when the weather changes
>>28726852wow you really are some kind of "touge life" newgenThat shit was placebo there, and it will continue to be placebo here
>>28727174AC weather simulation value is dubious. At lot of these mods are simcade/arcade slop, which why I play REAL sims like LMU and iRacing.
>>28727221Because they only got gay winged cars that I don't give a shit about. If you don't like the series being hosted, host yourself.
>>28727229>If you don't like the series being hosted, host yourself.No reason to. The /ovg/ races never appealed to me because the cars you guys drive handle like turds, and the sims I mentioned already gives me plenty of online racing without the headache of organizing anything.
>>28727237And every GT3 driver thinks that GT3's in iRacing are too hard to drive. Hard = realistic right?
>>28727239That's because iRacing is unforgiving once you go over the limit thanks to their shit tire model, but if you're an American its the only populated sim and your only choice. LMU is more forgiving as long as you don't get flatspots, but only bronze races are populated when I play.
>>28727243sounds terrible, I like this stuff better. I like having fun
>>28727247YO! Organizer senpai, can you explain to me why some of the cars in the race don't have working brake lights?
>>28727255I play in VR and I didn't bother fixing my replay settings to make them visible at the time.
>>28727256was talking about current sunday cup actually
>>28727260Oh, I don't know. I'm not the organizer of Sunday cup, that's tes
>>28727255Could be many things, from crappy mods to AC just being like that and not properly showing showing them until you're so close to them that it's too late to react. Learn how to react to your surroundings.
>>28727255i dont see a point in sundey cup regulations regarding mod cars being required to have working lights
>>28727270>>28727273brake lights are KINO
>>28727280ok darth starkiller
>>28727286no need to be jealous, you wish you had such firepower to defend your rear
anyone wants to make new
>>28727397>>28727397>>28727397
>>28727243it's unfathomable to me how irenters can enjoy something that royally fucks up the number 1 fun thing about driving a car fast which is dancing on the limit
