Are EVs and hybrids a meme?I'm in the market for a new car and trying to shop around this technology is really tedious. I am in the South where the charging infrastructure outside the home is still in its infancy. I also don't know a single person that owns one. I just want something reliable and attractive. I do not care about the environment.
>>28732416hybrids are based for a daily driver, evs are cucked as fuck.
EVs are a meme but modern Hybrids are way better than the first couple. Get a Prius, Honda Insight or Maverick. Hell there's even an F150 Hybrid that's starting to catch popularity for fuel economy and huge torque.
trust your instincts. both are a meme. buy a normal gas car like everyone else and don't worry about it.
>>28732419>hybrids are based for a daily driverWhat's the benefit? I WFH so I only leave the house a few times a week, usually no more than 15 miles out.
>>28732419>>28732420What changed with modern hybrids? I've always been scared off by the long term reliability and maintenance.
>>28732437>I've always been scared off by the long term reliability and maintenance.This shouldn't be a concern if you're buying a Toyota. Their hybrids have been rock solid for a long time now.
>>28732420>PriusAre you brown? I'm sure OP doesn't want to drive around in a taxi.
EVs are a joke, because of the battery. Literally consumable cars, drive them for 5 years until the warranty expires and throw them away. And what's worse is that by the time you actually need to replace the battery your model of battery will no longer be in production and after enough time it won't even be possible to source new batteries of the model you need. EVs are going to end up totaled en masse by the supply chain itself in 10-15 years time.
>>28732437I don't know. 20 years of making them, newer battery tech and better placement for maintenance. Ford does an inline power train so there are less mechanical links and moving parts to maintain. Ram is using this same design in their hybrid.
The Tesla Model Y was the best selling car over the 2023-2024 period worldwide. I dont understand how people can call it a meme.
>>28732606Yeah but Teslas themselves are a meme. Just conservatards buying shitty cars to jerk off elon cuck.
>decided I want to buy an IS300h>accepted that it will be economic to drive, hopefully comfy and have no sportiness at allidk maybe its too early in life to just want an efficient boring daily but I feel I've made up my mind about it being a reasonable decision.
>mild or self charging hybridsno>plug in hybrids or evsyes>>28732442toyotas are horrid and awful, don't get tricked into one>>28732618teslas are even worse than toyotas
>>28732416EVs are way more fun and interesting than gas cars. They drive differently, you can charge at home, and realize you've been brainwashed by gas car companies on road trips that you need to drive 5 hours without any breaks. Once you're forced to take 20 minute breaks every 2 or 3 hours, you will do so even when renting a gas car.At this point anything that uses gas is a meme. You're on a tickling time bomb for when gassoline is going to skyrocket in price. Oil refineries are more and more centralized as demand slowly drops due to decades of hybrids and EVs. When a major refinery shuts down, otnwill cause a supply shock which will start a chain reaction of people starting to buy more EVs.
>>28732437even a first gen prius will do 300k on oil changes and like 1 replacement batteryIt's probably the best car ever made for pure transportation purposes
>>28732416>lust provoking image
>>28732424>I WFH so I only leave the house a few times a week, usually no more than 15 miles out.You'd benefit more from a PHEV instead of a HEV.>plug car in for short errands>hybrid for longer drives.
>>28732416They lose value a lot faster than gas cars, especially full EVs. I wouldn't go full EV Judy because it makes road trips extremely impractical having to stop and let it charge for an hour. A PHEV is doable because you don't need a fast charger, you get your range with like 5 hours of charging with an extension cord. Personally not going to bother because they suck in snow and it snows where I live, and the devaluation is insane. You can mess around with years and mileage on KBB, for the cheapest options hybrids lose 4k a year where a gas car loses 2k a year. Full EVs can lose anywhere from 8-12k a year...
>>28734719Many goy cattle, like you, are not ready to switch to EVs.
Mild hybrid is literally the best option in every dd vehicle it's given. Maverick, Civic, Corolla, Rav4, the minivans etc. none of them feel slow, all of them get crazy mileage as long as you regen brake.It's getting to the point that the base models are all mild hybrids, these systems already are proving themselves to be more reliable than gas engines
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>>28732416I thought hybrid was a meme until I learned there are people who replace their Prius batteries pretty cheaply. Ugly side profile aside I would not hesitate to buy a high quality hybrid with a relatively small battery like a Prius. EV is still a meme though.
>>28732424>I WFH so I only leave the house a few times a week, usually no more than 15 miles out.Get something fun, turbocharged and/or V8 powered, then. Hybrids are great appliance daily drivers, but for those that have to commute dozens of miles each way 5+ times a week. Nothing in your potential use case shows benefits from a hybrid/EV/PHEV, but you are in the perfect position to have the most impractical car you can think of instead. Life's too short to drive boring cars.
>>28734716Agreed, although my grandma's gen 1 is at 310k miles btw, no mechanical issues to speak of. 2 battery changes in hers, last one was in 2020 when new and used car prices got so outrageous it made sense to spend a couple grand to get some new ones and keep it for longer.
>>28737892>Life's too short to drive boring cars.You're right. I drive a boring car and so does almost everyone else where I live. Driving an interesting car not only makes your day better, it brings joy to every other /o/tist who sees it in public.
>>28737938This is the last interesting car I saw on the road. It was pretty dilapidated and driving on a spare tire, but it still brightened my day. I haven't seen one in years.
>>28737812Yeah it's only like a few grand for a new battery? And people are scared by the HIGH VOLTAGE meme but you have to remember that high school dropouts get work as electricians and don't die so just take some basic precautions and you'll be fine.
>>28737812Hybrid batteries are 25 to 50 times smaller than EV batteries, so it makes sense they aren't that expensive to replace. In a hybrid the battery exists to buffer power in between the gasoline engine and the electric motors; it doesn't need to act as a long term store of electricity, it just needs to be big enough to ensure that there's always enough power available for the electric motors even if the gas engine is misbehaving or if the motors are temporarily pulling more than the gas engine produces.
>>28732416EV's are awful. Battery temperature, range, and charging limitations then no one puts a 30k battery in a 5k car then you get hit with additional annual EV fees and taxes.Serial hybrid can be just as bad as an EV medium battery "40 ish mile range" to keep charged with a tiny engine and tiny gas tank = 125 to 200 mi between gas fill-ups on long trips, battery that costs more than the car, same high annual EV taxes. Hybrid normal gas engine, normal gas tank 12 gal = 600 mi range, tiny easy to replace battery, battery replacement typically less than 1500.00, normal car taxes, Every cab company on the planet can't be wrong. I have had EV's and hybrid's I am averaging 65mpg in a Prius it doesn't break it doesn't wear out it just keeps going my only real criticism is that the Prius is boring.
if you don't drive a race car fuck you go die you old faggot
>>28732416I don't see any practical point of buying gasoline car or hybrid over EV at this point unless youa) can't charge at home for whatever reasonb) tow your boat or something 300 miles every other week
>>28732437>>28732416>long term reliability and maintenance.lol... hybrids are literally 2 decades old at this point and don't have reliability issues. This board is legitimately living under a fucking rock.>>28732463>5 yearsTesla's battery warranty is for 8 fucking yearsHybrids are even longer since their batteries are tiny as fuck.You're going to have other issues before your battery goes in any modern car (ICE,EV,HEV, etc)Also OP admittedly only drives less than 50mi a week lmao he's not breaking any car type. He's more likely to rust the fucking body out or have rats eat the wires before the components go.
>>28732424>What's the benefit?Hybrids are miles better than EVs for drivingThey only take 5 minutes to fill up at gas stations and have superior range
I bought a old high mileage Prius. Something breaks every couple of months and I think the hybrid battery needs to be replaced because it doesn't accelerate like it used to. Hybrids are great when they're in a good condition, but avoid old high mileage.
