>hybrid>no manual>only 200 hp >$43kWhat were they thinking?
>Hey guys the CRZ flopped.Lets try it again with this, just use a name people like and trust.Even the Integra isn't as embarssing.
its weird how they won't make a hybrid that is based on the 1.5T engine combined with a batterythe 2.0 is a gutless engine otherwiseand apparently the sound deadening is a big issue - it's very noisy and uncomfortable for long trips they didn't fix the actual issues
>>28736634You forgot..>FWD
They are selling well in Japan. Japs don’t want manuals even in sporty cars, and they prefer fuel efficiency.
>43kLOLHonda Dealers Are Already Asking over $60,000 for New Preludeshttps://www.caranddriver.com/news/a69543413/honda-prelude-dealer-markups-report/
>>28736685They can ask but who the fuck buys this at $60k?Does anyone have that much nostalgia for a prelude? beaners just buy them from each other for <$5000 and smash em up on the highway now.
$64k LMAO
>yeah it does 0-60 in 6.5s>that'll be $62,000
>>28736716>nitrogen filled tires>78.09% nitrogen and 20.95% oxygen, with trace gasses
>>28736716more like 8 seconds
>>28736740Honestly why not just buy a used Tesla 3 over this horseshit?https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/5YJ3E1EB6LF635891Used 2020 Tesla Model 3 Long Range$14,999• 126,053 mi
>>28736743because Teslas are garbage cars.
>>28736634you forgot the worst part
After this joke of a car maybe you'll stop asking them for a new S2K.
>>28736789kek, honda's new hybrids don't use a cvt.They don't use a gearbox at all.The ICE only powers the wheels at a fixed ratio (cruising speeds).At any other speed, the engine works exclusively as a generator for a small battery that then powers the electric motor(s).So, between 0 and 50ish mph, the engine only generates electricity.Between 50 and 70 (approx), a clutch is engaged and the is connected to the wheels via a fixed ratio (no variable ratio, no cvt, no gears, no gearbox).Above 70, the engine only generates electricity.
This whole thing seams like a bad joke, but some how this is selling really well in Japan?
>>28736796I'm convinced car engineers hate the companies they work for and are trying to sabotage them actively and destroy them. You see the same stuff at Nissan, Mazda, Toyota, Mercedes. Money-grubbing, tone-deaf, conservative decision-making.
>>28736685>>28736712>>28736716wtf you can get so many cooler cars at that price range
>>28736685Imagine how many used corvettes you could buy with 60k
>>28736793Source? This engineering is so hideously bad I can't believe it's real!
>>28737060>>28737094https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1YB2D72H5103217NO ACCIDENTS REPORTEDGREAT VALUEUsed 2017 Chevrolet Corvette LT1$40,900• 13,240 mihttps://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1YB2D79G5119901NO ACCIDENTS REPORTEDGOOD VALUEUsed 2016 Chevrolet Corvette LT1$40,971• 27,050 miChevrolet Certified Pre-Owned https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/1G1YA2D45N5116726Used 2022 Chevrolet Corvette LT1$57,786• 11,127 miOH NO NO NO NO HONDABROS NOT LIKE THIS
>>28737112no thanks friend ill take the 200hp automatic hybrid
>>28737129With a CVT instead of a real transmission, my friend?
>>28737132absolutely however, and this is important; make sure it's got simulated shifting and engine noise so I can just set it to v8 street mode if I feel like it
>>28736712more expensive than BMW RWD 2 series! lmao
>>28737148That BMW is MUCH FASTER and CHEAPER than this FWD KEKBOX that’s made for weebcels.
>>28737153>KEKBOXWhen was it censored? lameass C-U-C-KBOX
>>28737148>>28737153The fact that it will STILL sell just goes to show you how NPCbrained most people are.
>>28737153>That BMW is MUCH FASTER and CHEAPER than this FWD KEKBOX that’s made for weebcels.>BMW makes the reliable and reasonably priced performance car instead of HondaWhat a timeline
>>28737110Different anon but I concur that's how Honda's hybrid's work. Honda is cooked as far as an enthusiast manufacturer. The CTR is the only thing left they got going for them.
>>28737170That has to be a jokeThey've devolved back to a single fixed ratio direct driveWhy not just make it a full EV hybrid at that point why even bother with the physical connection to the ice engine and the wheels Absolutely retarded engineering
>>28737178Why not just make it an EV at that point?
>>28737178Because (due to hybrid) the electric motors and batteries compete for space with the ICE parts, meaning the electric power is not good up top which is why the engine clutches in to put up reasonable mpg numbers at what the epa calls "highway speeds".In real world tests (on the Civic) users have reported seeing mid 30's for highway mpg.It's a good system for city/suburb commuting, with the ability to navigate highways, but longer trips at 80+ aren't it's strong point.
>>28737110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_VChtMGK8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUIExAnNcE
>>28737243They did, the GM Prologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXxCpW9Gqw
>>28737148Is that really what it looks like?
>>28737163gayhonda has never made a performance car THOUGH
>>28739637They made the NSX; but that was 30 years ago.
>>28739648they have a decent turbo v6 but somehow it's still rather slow, isn't actually that much faster than the NA version, they won't make a faster edit of it, and they don't put it in any small vehicles
>>28739648>v6let "performance" car
>>28739651Yeah; but it only weighed 2,700 lbs.
So we get dog shit like the new Prelude but we cant have the Hilux Champ? The US market is beyond fucked.
>>28739637S2000, NSX (both generations), Civic Type R. Just because it's not some fat RWD sedan doesn't make those not "performance cars". Dumbass calispiclet
>>28736634least they could've done is put a cvt and make it 24k
>>28736634>hybrid>manualAre you retarded?
who is going to buy this shit?
>2025>people on /o/ still don't know the difference between an eCVT and a CVT>same people have the gull to complain about modern cars and pretend to be enthusiasts/racers
>>28739720are you? there has been 3 manual hybrid commuters before.
>>28739725i want the 200hp 8+ second 0-60 car for 60k out the door after dealer markup, yes daddy
>>28739744I mean, they did very little to try to sell the last generation of Honda Civic Coupe. This is really just an extended viral marketing campaign for the new 2dr civic.
>>28739712s2gays and civics are ugly slow and gay 4cylinderlet pikachu bullshits and see >>28739651 dumbass weeblet slowfaglet boyracelet
>>28737148that's literally slower than my grand marquis which has an oil and coolant leak holy fuck
>>28739723boomers
>>28737110It's bad for driving enthusiasts, but makes perfect sense from an efficiency and reliability point of view. It's definitely better than the previous gen honda hybrids sold in japan with a dual clutch gearbox. Every summer they break down en masse in hills with heavy traffic. Normies have no idea they're driving a dual clutch and therefore should avoid creeping uphill.picrel
>>28737110>>28737132>>28737178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6glpZTRT6qE1:46"there is no gearbox whatsoever. So there is no CVT or planetary gearbox included."
>>28736685>>28736712>>28736716At that pricepoint might as well buy a Nu-Supra.>>28736743You could at least point at a brand new example, instead of the doordash/uber abused one.>>28737112>Corvette>Used>40K+And become part of the Corvette faggots club? no fucking thank you, I'd rather walk than drive a Vette.
>>28739829>hurr durr those three aren't performance because I don't understand anythingDumbass calispic
>>28740003>"hurr durr" those ugly slow gay 4cylinderlet and v6let economy bullshits are actually performance cars okay!!!Dumbass nocar flyoverlet
>>28737153weebcels don't even want this trash
>>28740051the way you post on this site is so easy to spot. they really are putting retard juice in your food and water in california huh? none of your posts have ever contributed to any conversation here and I suspect the same of your personal life.
>>28736711>They can ask but who the fuck buys this at $60k?Mentally retarded people. In droves. If these mental midgets would quit paying these markups then we would see markups disappear from window stickers
>>28736634Seriously why is it so expensive compared to the hybrid civic when essentially being the same car? I wouldn't mind the lude costing $40-50k considering it was always Honda's range topping car outside of Acura. That is if it actually lived up to its roots. Crazy how an old 5th gen or even 4th gen prelude made with 30+ year old technology could smoke one of these things.
>>28740051Thanks for proving my point, califag spiclet.
>>28739922>Normies have no idea they're driving a dual clutch and therefore should avoid creeping uphill.why are dual clutch automatics bad at driving uphill? I thought they were superior to "slushbox" automatics in every way? Have I been lied to?
>>28740956They aren't bad at *driving* uphill, they're bad at *creeping* uphill for extended periods of time. You should drive them like you'd drive a manual gearbox, not like you'd drive a torque converter auto.In other words, if you're in a traffic jam that's moving at 2mph uphill, you should stay stopped until there's enough room in front that will allow you to reach a speed high enough that your clutch won't be slipping (say 6mph+), and then come to a complete stop. Rinse and repeat.In a torque converter auto you can creep at 2mph all day and nothing bad will happen.
>>28740435>a wing on a fag-wheel drive car makes it a performance car!!!Kek gayhonda has never made a performance car; cry pussy flyoverletfag ebonicletI'm not hispanic at all, by the way
>>28739974>Corvette faggots clubThe boomers are dead anon
>>28741013>Kek gayhonda has never made a performance carThanks for continuing to prove my point, spiclet>cry pussy flyoverletfag ebonicletProject harder, your brownness is showing; I live in a coastal state :)>I'm not hispanic at all, by the waythe Mexican cries out in pain when called out
>>28741021And yet gayhonda has never made a performance car lol>he thinks flyovervilles can be in coastal states>ebonics
>>28741022>And yet gayhonda has never made a performance car lolignoring that the NC1 NSX literally set the standard for modern supercars, the S2000 being a then-modern roadster with good handling and decent acceleration, and the Civic Type R being the quintessential hot hatch (yes hot hatchbacks are performance cars), you're not only wrong you're an ignorant retard>>he thinks flyovervilles can be in coastal statesCalifag opinions are worthless>>ebonics>it says while speaking in ebonicsCalispiclet seething
>>28741028>muh v6let "supercar!!">muh heckin uglyslowgay 4cylinderlet convertible!!>tarted up economy cars are actually performance cars!!!4cylinderlet usgpmt+ opinions are worth less than nothingflyoverlet eboniclet ebonicking
>>28741040>>muh v6let "supercar!!">ignores that any modern supercar worth a damn today is TTV6 or hybrid + TTV6>>muh heckin uglyslowgay 4cylinderlet convertible!!>dismisses a performance car out of hand because they're a retard>>tarted up economy cars are actually performance cars!!Yes you utterly smoothbrained mexcriment faggot. That's the entire point of hot hatchbacks, a high performance version of an economy car. >4cylinderletEbonics>usgpmt+Ebonics>opinions are worth less than nothing.But enough about BMW, let's talk about real cars now. >flyoverlet eboniclet ebonickingThe coward brownoid cowers in fear because they don't have an argument
>>28741051>ignores the fact that no modern car is "worth a damn" except the 911 S/T>thinks a fuckin 4cylinderlet convertible is a performance car>thinks a tarted up economy car is a performance carKek why are nocar usgpmt+ enthusiasts so fucking delusional?
>>28739974>And become part of the Corvette faggots club? no fucking thank you, I'd rather walk than drive a Vette.Good, stick to whatever faggy car you drive. We. Are. Full.
>>28741017>The boomers are dead anonAnd they taught the Corvette owners to behave like Corvette owners. They passed that shit down like a family restaurant gets passed down to the son.
>>28741234Oh noes! I'm being denied something I've never wanted in the first place! How can I continue living my life like this! I will never recover!
>>28739637>still getting drug by 90s civicsHate it for you!
>>28741055The only delusional person here is you, dumbass Mexican
>>28741327Why are fag-wheel drive economy "enthusiasts" so averse to cool cars?>>28741344I've never been drugged by a car THOUGH>>28741454You're literally trying to discuss fag-wheel drive economy cars, silly juanito "burrito" jackson
>>28741513>You're literally trying to discuss fag-wheel drive economy cars, silly juanito "burrito" jacksonI'm white, cry harder Pedro Beanerito Juan Maria Sanchez Goblino
>>28741549Why are you so concerned with the black or indigenous CULTURE of color then, juanito "burrito" jackson?
>>28736634Si / Type S (in Japan) in 2026Type R in 2027, most likely when Civic Type R is discontinuedHonda is literally just repeating the Integra situation yet again where enthusiasts didn't react well to the base model
>>28741563You keep projecting, Pedro. Accept that you're wrong, it'll make things a lot easier
>>28741618Wrong about what?>nooo uglyslowgay 4cylinderlet fag-wheel drive economy bullshits are actually PERFORMANCE cars okay?!?Kek fuckin delusional weeblet slowfaglet boyracelet juanito "burrito" jackson
>>28736639which is weird, because despite being a hybrid, the CR-Z had a manual transmission option, something you'd expect out of a hypercar
>>28741632>the crz was like a heckin T50!!
>>28741622>Wrong about what?Everything>nooo uglyslowgay 4cylinderlet fag-wheel drive economy bullshits are actually PERFORMANCE cars okay?!?You continue to fail to see the forest for the trees>Kek fuckin delusional feeble slowfaglet boyracerlet juanito "burrito" jackson Ebonics, you're still mad. Your gEy39 gets mogged by an S2000 in acceleration and handling
