It didn't sell because it was too small for the American market, and it wasn't practical enough.Kia could sell a lot of Stingers if they brought it back, but this time with a hybrid version of the NA v6 from the Carnival making 320 ish hp, its a gt car, it doesn't need to be the fastest. It should be a wagon, and, most importantly, it needs to be as wide as a Telluride, and as long as a G90. Americans like BIG comfy cruisers, and it won't sell unless it's that. Needs to come standard with the e-lsd and good dual clutch transmission from the Elantra N.
>>28955780"sports sedans" are cancer and are responsible for the death of the sedan. It was not a great business choice bringing in a car like this onto the NA market. Wagons don't sell either so that would be an equally bad choice.
>>28955783it really shouldn't be that sporty it should just be about having a v6 standard, decent handling, good brakesbecause nobody puts effort into making nice NEW wagons with current tech and updated platforms
JUNK
>>28955783i NEED SPORTY shocks and SPORTY SPRINGS and SPORTY seats and SPORT MODE how the fuck am i gonna set my personal best on my way to the local shops bro
>>28955787There are still manufacturers making new wagons with all the current tech you could want. Nobody buys them. You're free to. Don't be bitching about them not being a thing when you are just going to sit there and bitch instead of buying one.
>>28955802they aren't newthe e class is insanely expensive and the interior is awful and its overpriced and they jew you on optionsthe all terrain is ancient inside and similarly expensiveall they have to do is make something less shitty than the current offerings>with all the current tech you could wantnot for ~ 50k
>>28955805JUNK
>>28955807as long as it has double wishies up front they could sell potentially 60k a year
>>28955805>the all terrain is ancient insidewut
>>28955780It didn’t sell because it’s ugly slow gay pikachu monster truck bullshit
>>28955829the a6 all terrain interior dates to I wanna say like 2018 or so, it isn't new and its two unresponsive touchscreensit probably isn't that roomy inside, its quite expensive, they didn't make it special enough
>>28955780No retard, it failed because it is another sports sedan to add to the pile. Instead of doing something special, Kia tried to have it's cake and eat it by releasing something designed to be high volume but also get brand prestige. Kia should have came out with a low volume sport/super car along with the stinger so that people would be willing to actually cross shop it with a BMW. Also they dropped said sports sedan in dealers accustomed to a client that was extremely poor and willing to take abuse, so when someone who shops for a sports sedan came in to the most disgusting dealers on planet earth and got treated like shit, said clients left.
>>28955805I think you're living in some dream world. It sounds like you want a new luxury wagon for $30k.
>>28955780>It didn't sell because it was too small for the American market, and it wasn't practical enough.Cope. It didn't sell because it was an expensive fucking *KIA*.
>>28955851I said 50kits not luxuryits kia, not a genesisits premium
Gookshit that blows up after warranty/lease is over. Why bother with headaches and a money pit when you could go german
>>28955780>Kia could sell a lot of Stingers if they could get their cars to stop self igniting and build them to last as long as a normal carftfy
>>28955996They didn't earn the reputation needed to have a gt sport sedan do that. Mercedes can make garbage reliability (for the average buyer that never takes care of their car) but people will still buy because they have a catalog of good cars with good reputation. Kia's first good car was something that is only slightly above average in its class but breaks down immediately after warranty, that is not acceptable when every other Kia car is also dogshit with the reputation of being a car for poor and scamers.
>we made a competitor to the 330! >you have to deal with multiple kia dealership employees to get one>they all think it's the hottest shit in the world and there are no competitors just because they aren't allowed to step in their dealer group's nice storesthe product was never the issue
>>28955780It didn't sell because it looks like a Kia.
>>28956325If they disguised it as a BMW with a yuge grill, would it sell better?
the only person i know in the whole world who bought a stinger was a nigger who got cucked and was raising someone elses kid in a shitty apartment.
>>28956333I bet he's comfy now.
>>28955953german slop has the same exact problems and are even more expensive to maintain
It didn’t sell because it came out at the nadir of sedan popularity, which is only just seeing a resurgence within the past couple of years due to core and late zoomer shitposting, and they’re all flat broke anyway so it doesn’t matter.
>>28956383my dad sat inside, said "this is too small!", and dismissed it entirelyI bet many customers had a similar reaction.
>>28955780It was a good car that died because of branding. Car enthusiasts aren't into Kias. Korean brands have no aura.
It didn't sell because it had a v6 Imagine if it had a v8 in the Kia boyz era it would be a hood classic
>>28955780It didn't sell because it had fake vents, a kia badge and looked like an econobox from the front. Also it was 4000lbs.
>>28956396>It was a good carNice to see them still on the road.Oh wait, they magically disappeared because they all hit the 5 year mark.
>>28956424Bingo, you've nailed it. This is 'The Gookslop Cycle':>Kia/Hyundai cars are good now!Well why don't I see any old Kia/Hyundais on the road?>Those were the old ones, they were bad. But the new ones are good now!Been hearing the same Korean lies my entire life. They sell a ton of cars, but you barely see the previous generation on the road.
>>28956443go to rural wv you will see plenty of 2015 kia sportages
>>28956452>go to rural wv you will see plenty of 2015 kia sportages>all in one big parking lot>under a sign that says U PICK IT AUTO DISMANTLERSwow thats crazy
a 2022 elantra n is the best car i have ever driven. germancucks dont need to be so jealous
>>28956483no, being used parked next to the houses, saw a ton in Grafton, WV. >>28956486honestly I see a lot more older Elantras than older suvs I think people just bought more of the sedans.
>>28956486>a 2022 elantra n is the best car i have ever driven.Numerous kia boys probably have the same sentiment. That opinion would change if they could steal a better car with just a USB cord.>>28956491>no, being used parked next to the houses, saw a ton in Grafton, WV.Is this a redneck joke? "Gawt uh mobile home and fifteen sportages that aren't mobile"Or "Ah mow'd da lawn and found 5 sportages in there"
>>28955780>auto only>no v8>gookshit >those years of the brand fraught with recalls for fire risk, rapid unscheduled engine disassembly, and theft attempts can't imagine why someone wouldn't want one when it gets mogged in every way by a rebadged opel
>>28956567>auto onlyManual is deprecated. It makes your car slower and less efficient. Performance cars don't even bother with it anymore.
>>28956567I don't think auto only or v6 were the big problems, although I will admit their engines lag behind the competition and they need a new generation v6 with more power and better fuel economy.
>>28956649I don't care about any of that because manual is simply more fun. I'm not setting lap times on my way to the grocery store. There is a reason manual SS sells for around MSRP or higher as 10 year old cars and the automatics are $20k less.
>>28955780Sporty sedans don't sell because no one really wants a sporty sedan. It's an oxymoron, the entire point of a sedan is to drive in comfort. At the bare minimum more comfortable than a compact car, which is why it was the choice of retirees, leave your job and get yourself the biggest, comfiest sedan for the rest of your driving years.Sport anything ruins that, and the people who genuinely want sporty things will pick a sports car, because for the extra money you pay for a sports sedan, you can get a better sports car. better suspension, more fun to drive, better engine, and even if everything matches part for part between the sports car and the sport sedan, the sports car will be quicker and more agile cause by their very nature they will also be lighter.The only people who would buy a sports sedan are the exact same kind of people who would buy a crossover right now. because they want a vehicle with a little bit of everything, and well... They're buying crossovers now, or they made the jump to SUVs as is.
>>28956700man not a single person can admit it was too cramped
>>28955790>JUNKYou're a jaded piece of Zoomer shit.Had you lived through the absolutely abysmal era of 1980's and most of 90's of USDM offerings, then you would appreciate what this car offers.
>>28956505>Numerous kia boys probably have the same sentiment.well they cant exactly steal my car with a usb cord, it uses a keyless fob
>>28956704Just because cars are widely better now, doesn't mean you have to love them by default. I actually owned your picrel, and I still wouldn't buy this modern Korean garbage. There's enough actually good cars that you could buy instead of settling for a Kia.
>>28955780>Too small for the american marketNo it was too small for an americans body.
>>28956933same thing
>>28955780It didn't sell because it weighs two tons
>>28956932>Just because cars are widely better now, doesn't mean you have to love them by default.I never suggested such.>There's enough actually good cars that you could buy instead of settling for a Kia.Sure.Having said that, I believe that my overall still stands.You get a a lot of bang for the buck from Kia and Hyundai.Personally, I would NOT buy a new one, however, and like you would select another make over these.
>>28956996>You get a a lot of bang for the buck from Kia and Hyundai.That banging noise isn't good. That's your engine falling apart.
>>28957039>bangrofl
>>28957039My engine hasn't exploded yet.
>>28955796My beloved 25 year old Honda died recently and I'm absolutely disgusted at the fact that every car made in the last 20 years that is half-way decent is a "sport' car. Can't find anything that doesn't have sporty styling. I fucking hate the modern world.
>>28955780It was built to be some sort of "enthusiast" centered car, but it was an auto only Kia riding on maccas struts that looked like a cross between an Optima (side) and a Charger (rear), sold during the prime years of "Kia Boyz" fame.Meanwhile, a similar Charger for the same price would have double bones and a V8 that makes more power than even the most powerful Stinger variant.Yeah, you could toss a tune on the 3.3T Stinger and claim it's finally faster than a rental-spec Charger R/T, but for how long until it pops?I don't care enough to look up if it sold better (it IS still sold, after all), but the chassis-mate Genesis G70 at least didn't look like a total econobox and wasn't marketed as being the second-coming of "affordable sports sedans" like the Stinger supposedly was going to be.
>>28957207would it sell if they replaced it with a model that has double wishies?
>>28957270As a resident double wishies retard, no that alone would not be enough to get me to want a kia stinger
>>28957168>My engine hasn't exploded yet.Gotta get a Toyota 3-banger for that...
>>28957207>rental-spec Charger R/TThat shit's funny, lol.
>>28955780These were so underrated really
>>28957288what if it was longer and wider and basically sold as a comfy v6 croozer and not a performance thing and it only came in a wagon or a hatch?>>28958072it was rated exactly as expected given how small it was