OBJECTIVE: prove to /o/ that (You), specifically, *need* more than this as a "sports car".
>>28978154i weigh 400 pounds, i can't fit in that fucking thing. i don't even know if the suspension could handle me by myself, let alone my wife, her girlfriend and her boyfriend.
>>28978154front wheel drive "sports cars" are fine for europe. not america. america has more varied roads. we have narrow mountain roads, wide sweepers, hills and flats of all kinds. this is why America tends to make cars that handle better than the rest of the world.that car would need some carbon fiber track package that cost six figures while american cars only need all seasons and don't even need a limited slip differential.
>>28978154I need RWD, double wishies, lug studs, and for the majority of the car and its engine bay to not be made of dogshit plastic that biodegrades in 10 years.
>>28978154>not RWDYeah into the trash it goes
its got pep and is really zippy
My brother bought one
3,300 lbsFWDMaccas front, multi link rearOpen diff, uses traction control to brake the inner wheel to “simulate” lsd>It drives just like a go-kart tee-hee-hee.
>>28978183did you just say that the US is the only country with varied roads, you retarded fucking gorilla nigger?
>>28978183>>28978185>>28978187>>28978207>fails to raise even ONE argument as to why it isn't enough of a sports car for (You)r drivingsad!
>>28978214I like using throttle while cornering. The feeling when your suspension squats to the rear then settles and you ramp up the throttle and it accelerates as you’re cornering instead of having to lift and be super gentle, that feeling is amazing.
>>28978212no, I said it has more varied roads. more variety. You can find sweepers in europe and Japan, but nowhere near as big as the ones in america and nowhere near as wide. pikes peak is a mountain pass that is taller than anything in Europe or Japan. americans have more roads of all types than any other region. It's why the rest of the world comes to america to test their cars, but american brands don't have to go outside america, unless they specifically want to test on the nurburgring.
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>>28978242so europe has twisty roads, and not much of anything else? thanks for proving my point that america has more variety.
>>28978244yellow roads are already borderline straight, and there are plenty that aren't twisty enough to be highlighted
>>28978249you can't do high speed testing on any of those roads, which is why keonigsegg comes to america to do top speed runs. you aren't helping your case at all.
>>28978251top speed runs happen on purpose built tracks, even in the US
>>28978252keongisegg's last run was on a road in vegas. SSC did runs on roads for his first car and his last one before switching to an airport.top speed runs haven't been done in purpose built tracks in america for awhile.
>>28978244There are some very boring highways like the autobahn too.
>>28978218This is the best feeling of driving a car bar none
>>28978264very few european countries have an "autobahn". all european countries have highway systems, but they're not comparable to the ones in america or the kinds of speeds you can reach on them. This is ultimately why europeans worshiped front wheel drive while america didn't. you guys have tons of twisty roads, but that's it. if you made a track up of nothing but hairpins, it would be a shit track and wouldn't test a car's handling capabilities at all. so all you'd get is a car that is good at low speed cornering but shit at everything else.america and american cars give you both. hence the camaro beating entry level cars like the Yaris GR all the way to high speed super cars like the R8. europe doesn't make cars that do it all. it's difficult because their environment doesn't let them do it all, either.
>>28978271Its so weird to speak so confidently on places you've never been.
>>28978271>hairpins>benefitting FWDI don’t know, man. Tight corners are best with RWD short wheelbase.
never left my state bros... i'm not feeling too good
>>28978154It's too tall, too heavy, has two extra seats and the roof doesn't come off.
>>28978272your manufacturers coming to america to test their cars seems to speak for itself. they could just stay home if everything they needed was there. the only reason american manufacturers come to europe is for the nurburgring and nothing else.
>>28978281I'm American you fucking retard.
>>28978274FWD was shitting on RWD in rally. hairpins absolutely benefit FWD.
>>28978279>high performance driving>convertiblelmfao
>>28978277>grew up in Germany / France>had moved 15 times by age 20>haven’t left my state in almost a decadeSweet home.
>>28978283so you're a retard simping for europeans despite their own manufacturers coming to america to test. makes zero difference to my point.
>>28978285Yes a sportscar should be fun. Also lol a high performance mini lmao.
>>28978288honest question, how is it simping to say they have both straight and twisty roads in europe?
>>28978297>they have both>but america has more variety which is why european manufacturers come to america to testdid you completely miss the point of this conversation? you really must be retarded.
>>28978294Convertibles and performance can't be in the same sentence.
Why do you *need* that much? This is enough for a sports car
>>28978154Get out of my head. I was just shopping that car today
>>28978312Porsche seems to disagree with you
>>28978305your "point" is an unprovable nonsense claimKoenigsegg did their top speed run on that highway in Nevada because it's in the middle of nowhere and they could afford to close it down.Bugatti did their top speed run for the Chiron on a test track in Austria, and have had it within spitting distance of 300km/h on the autobahn. That chinese EV did its top speed run on a test track in Germany. None of this proves your point either way.
>>28978315nta but have one, it's fun.
>>28978319you already proved my point here>>28978242. What mountain roads does europe have that are even comparable to pikes peak? everyone goes to pikes peak to race, and even build wild cars for. no one goes to this>>28978277 to test anything because it's shit and wouldn't even test anything but a shitbox performance.>Koenigsegg did their top speed run on that highway in Nevada because it's in the middle of nowhere there are middle of nowhere places in europe, too. the roads just aren't up to testing on. notice how when people do test cars in europe, it has to be on a test track. an artificial road designed for the purpose and not coming from the town's construction itself. you just dug your hole deeper with these examples. you can get within "spitting distance" of 300km/h on the autobahn, but you can go beyond it on a basic bitch american road. america is the best driving place in the world. sorry this bothers you as a self hating american cuck.
>>28978185>need lug studswhy?
>>28978154>front wheel drive>sports car
>>28978713I hate lug bolts, simple as.
this entire thread is larpers who havent ever driven on a track
these are great cars to drive. the seat is a little small for men.
>>28979168>the seat is a little small for men.Surely you mean the early Minis? I'm big-boned and 6'10 and the JCW (sportiest) seat is completely fine.
>>28978281Manufacturers go to America for marketing reasons. Also they test a lot in Europe too, you think the only tests that ever happen are WR attempts?
>>28979169mom has a regular cooper with the seats that look like the bmw "sport" seats just smaller
>>28979186My seats look like this, they're comfy
>>28979183>Manufacturers test mules that they completely cover up and don't even want anyone to know their testing in america for marketing reasonsthis makes no sense.>Also they test a lot in Europe too,but american brands don't, unless it's specifically the nurburgring.>you think the only tests that ever happen are WR attempts?No, most test being done are with developmental mules, and european brands do that a lot in america while american brands don't do the same in europe.
>>28979188my legs go numb after about an hour of driving in the mini. no issue in bmw, mercedes or b5 passat
>>28979195Because American brands got ran out of Europe for being garbage that nobody wanted, except Ford but I'm sure you'll cope about Ford testing in Europe with something about it being the Euro branch so it doesn't count.
>>28979199>a brand not being sold somewhere means they can't test somewheregod damn you are fucking stupid, lmao.
i dont want egg hatch
>>28979248>I dont want to have funSorry to hear that man hope things get better for you
>>28978154"no"
>>28979202why would they spend money shipping a car to test it in a place where it won't be driven?
>>28979274GM did exactly that with the C7 ZR1 and ZL1 1LE. two cars that weren't intended to be sold in europe, still tested on the nurburgring.
>>28979322I thought the burgerking didn't count?
>>28979333who said that?
