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Good Survival guns thread
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Tell us whats good about that piece of trash.
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>>1312302
Oh thats just a random survival rifle i found online
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>>1312301
My choice, single shot .22 if you are worried about noise use sub sonic. Also, don't laugh, a good break barrel pellet gun.
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>>1312427
Long term, both of those are good options for small game.
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anything else is the wrong answer
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>>1312463

Those guns are a piece of shit, the m6 scout is a far superior rifle too.
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45-70.
Use rifle rounds for big game. .410 shotgun shells for smaller game.
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Single shot 12 gauge.
>Indistructable
>Can kill anything
>Fast reloads if you practice enough

It's what we use down here in South Louisiana (besides rifles of course). But in dense jungle environments you want something that can penetrate brush but not weigh 9 pounds. I do believe this particular gun weighed 32 oz with the side saddle and buttstock survival kit removed.
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>>1312534
Close up.
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>>1312301
Mosin Nagant, as long as you can handle a little recoil, there's no downsides and can down an elephant.
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>>1312534

Even with those two things removed, the gun itself should actually be around 80 oz.
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Ar15
>Is a take down
>convertable to .22lr
>.223 capable of taking down most large game (even if not best tool for the job) and defense.

You wont be wanting large game anyway, if its just you your feeding, but its nice to have some extra oomf over .22lr if you need it.
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>>1312556
As long as you can hit said elephant. Maybe I've just been unlucky. Most Nagants I've fired aren't terribly accurate.
Don't misunderstabd me, I love the idea of one, I think they're lovely rifles.
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>>1312571

Buddie of mine can easily get 3 moa with irons on his mosin.
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>>1312571
My '27 hex might be the most accurate rifle I own. (With no optics)
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>>1312571
>>1312628
would either of you know how much a recoil pad would help on a mosin
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>>1312632
The recoil doesn't bother me, personally. I mean.. if it's trashing your shoulder, then go for it.
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>>1312571
They really vary in quality, and the price often reflects that, especially these days. A nice rifle, like a good condition Finn will shoot pretty accurately, but a beater 91/30 that some conscript spent the entire mid 1900's hauling around isn't going to hit much.
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>>1312692
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>>1312632

None. If you can't wield the nagant, you don't deserve the nagant. Next you'll ask how to change tire, or make love to your woman....both I'm willing to show you.
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>>1312427
>don't laugh, a good break barrel pellet gun.

Why would people laugh at this? My air rifle shoots a .25 cal pellet at 1200 fps. Great for rabbits and squirrels.
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Maybe this would be a good place to post

I recently had a go with break action pellet guns and I like them a lot.
The main draw is how light they are, and how many shots you can take.

Fuck spending days hunting deer you can't even carry or process on the go, I'm just going to plink birds and rabbits while I walk.

I was disapointed how loud the mechanism was though, I expected it to be silent
Laws asside how would supressing an air rifle effect it's Ballistic performance?


Recommended brands?
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>>1312746
Pretty sure sound is coming from the spring slamming the piston. If you want more quiet mechanism you need to go PCP and that's another can of worms since now your lugging compressed air tanks everywhere.
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>>1312304
Do you mind if I save it?
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>>1312557
I hollowed the wooden stock out. We can meet in the middle and call it 45oz. I've actually never weighed it.
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>>1312699
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>>1312527
You will get a donut shaped pattern that will be just about useless. .410 already has a tiny pellet count. This isn't a good choice.
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>>1312999
.410 is great for small game
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>>1312534
This man is correct, nothing beats it for versatility or compact size. A shotgun is the only gun that will be able to take anything from hares to bears and do it well.
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>>1313000
Yeah, out of a .410 shotgun. Not out of a .45-70 rifle. The rifling will give you a near useless pattern with an already thin pellet count.
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supposedly a good slingshot can have as much power as .22lr
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>>1312743
he thinks he's on /k/, where people would laugh
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Does anyone know about the relative accuracy of .22 inserts for a 12g?
Can...can you supress a shotgun firing small caliber rounds with an insert?

I would like the power of 12g slugs but it's more important for me to be able to take small game discreetly
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>>1313084
Can't wait for you to show us it's features.
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>>1312301
Chiappa little badger in .22 mag
>$180 new
>single shot w/ threaded barrel option, scope mount, and rifle sleeve or sling
>folds up
>comes in .22lr and .22wmr
>weighs 3lbs and has an overall length of 31"
>.22 wmr can handle squirrels to coyotes within 100 yards
>100 rounds of .22 wmr weighs 1 lb
>the rifle with 100 rds of ammo and a small scope will weigh ~4-5lbs
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>>1312535
aaayyyy that's that $99 Hatfield heavily modded ain't it?
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>>1312692
what is the name of this fucking rifle. I looked around but I can't find it.
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>>1312301
any anons know where I can find the plans for this rifle. it's based off a movie rifle and a user here www.bladeforums.com/threads/diy-basic-backpack-able-22-rifle.595796/ posted their own make.
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>>1313248
another pic
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>>1312692
>>1313245

jk. it's this rifle just modded
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>>1312301
12 guage with slugs and shot is all one needs.
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>>1312556
>no downsides
>5 feet long and 10 pounds
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>>1312628
So it's the only rifle you own?
Makes sense.
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>>1312743
Because the good ones are heavier and bulkier than a boltgun. 22lr while having a fifth of the muzzle energy?
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>>1312752
Or spending half the day with a glorified bike pump.
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>>1313084
.36cal lead round all for BP revolvers makes excellent but expensive slingshot ammo, and yeah even a $15 Walmart wrist rocket will throw them fast enough to beat .22lr from a pistol.
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>>1313110
Depends on the length and brand of the insert but generally ranges from bad to unusably horrid.

No.
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>>1312850
can you provide more info from owner perspective?
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>>1313155
I wouldn't discount it, on the basis that a single piece of elastic can take a bird silently as well as a loud heavy .22

While I couldn't hit anything with a slingshot, if I could it seems a much better choice for birds or squirels

I see a nieche there it fills
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>>1312752
You forgot that those multi pump air guns are an option if you want something that uses compressed air. They aren't as consistent as PCP options though.

>>1313419
>can take a bird silently as well as a loud heavy .22
So can a ton of other less powerful weapons, because birds really aren't that durable. IIRC, birds take less to kill than squirrels or rabbits.
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>>1312463
"I eat cock" the gun
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>>1313155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg5IbKKKc8
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"Survival" is a marketing meme
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>>1313378
the ammo is smaller, lighter, cheaper, the guns are quieter and are easyer to get as a yuro
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>>1312304
>Good guns thread
>posts random "Cool looking" picture you found
The Good part in "Good survival guns" implies they aren't "Cool" rather they are reliable. Pic related is garbage that would get you killed outdoors.
Summerfags are the worst kind of cancer.
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>>1312463
Compactability =/= a good gun.

Solid design with high quality mats and excellent manufacturing technique. Ideally you'd want both a rifle and shotgun for effective survival.
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>>1312692
>how to be steampunk AND killed by bears
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>>1313400
does the job 4 filled 10 rund mag and a decent reddot for those lowlight kills but as all semi 22lr some brake in and selective ammo is something you have to consider, but is it a fun gun it will be used more and training is the key for good hunting
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>>1312463
I'm considering buying one of these, but a friend who has one says they jam every third shot 100% of the time (even with the right ammo)
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>>1313153
So it won't feed, fire or extract properly, and it "spreads quite a bit" even at 10 yards, which is very short range.

You're not really selling it as a primary choice.
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>>1313593
what if you use adaptors? they make adapters for things like to shoot a .22 from a .410 and etc. not recommended in anything but break barrel weapons cause otherwise you might never be able to get the damn thing out thogh
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>>1313606
Why not just get a .22 pistol.
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>>1312301
a survival gun has to be bale to fire either .410 or 12ga shot and also .22lr
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>>1313668
something like this
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>>1312463
Plastic barrel, unreliable, picky with ammo "survival rifle" no thanks
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>>1313662
ur mom
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>>1313593
i don't even like .410, i just wish people would stop saying the donut shape meme like every gun you jam a .410 into is gonna do the same thing. probably should've linked >>1312999
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Has anyone here tried either the chiappa double badger or the Savage model 42? I want a 22lr/410 combo gun but I can't decide which
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>>1313530
I can't imagine taking a thread on 4chan this seriously lol. relax
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>>1313241
No. It's an H&R topper model 88 made sonewhere during 1987-1989. I don't buy trash like Hatfield's.
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>>1313711
I wish NFA laws didn't exist. I want one of these so bad.
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>>1312705
Rifle is fine. You need boat oar? No, you have mosin. You need tent pole? No, you have mosin. You need war club? Not if you have mosin.
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>>1312301
12 ga shotgun is only answer. Ammo everywhere including reloadable black powder.
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>>1314258
.22lr and .410
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>>1314175
for $100 project gun? I'd buy it
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12ga pump is the most versatile firearm, and thus the best survival gun.

Pic related is one of muh shotguns
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>>1312556
the rabbit your trying to eat is vaporized on impact so you starve anyway like a true commie
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>>1312556
Only popular on /k/ back in the day because they used to be like $100. They are now overpriced for what they are and surplus ammo will only get more expensive too. if you want a bolt gun for survival you'd be better off getting a generic modern hunting rifle in 308.
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A normal compact or full size pistol would be better than all these weird rifles
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>>1315226

Shhh, logic is not used here. Be gone, wizard.
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>>1314914
$100? Ten years ago you could get 5 crates with 5 rifles each for $100.
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>>1314464

That's what the bayonet is for, anon.
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>>1313245
Chiappa Little Badger
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>>1312746
>Laws asside how would supressing an air rifle effect it's Ballistic performance?

Laws aside? If you're in the US, integrally suppressed airguns are sold and they're legal (w/o $200 tax stamp). Hell, I think there are companies that sell airgun suppressors (on their own), too. They're not counted as a gun suppressor (meaning by the ATF/laws); as long as the thing won't hold up to a gun, it's legal. Best bet for legality is the integrally suppressed air rifle since the suppressor can't (easily) be removed from the airgun, which would be probably considered destructive (non removable) since it's usually welded/braised, I think. Unless there's a hunting law on use of airguns (most states, maybe except one or two allow it) or suppressors, you're fine.
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>>1315551
>charging floppy grass rats
Autistic as fuck, well done.
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>>1312301
M4 Survival Rifle was a mistake.
Buy an AR-7.
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>>1317963
Also the Sub-2000 is a good pick.
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I'm dissappointed in all of you.
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>>1318130
>no loading gate
So close.
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>>1317787

only non meme choice ITT
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>>1312463
So if you're ever in a life or death situation, you can just ask your predator to wait for 10 mins while you put it together. Perfect.
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>>1312301

My vote. Ruger gp100 with 6 inch barrel.
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>>1317884
>£5
>being increasingly used on the streets of britain
literally never heard of this
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>>1318417
No other gun has helped more people actually survival more than this
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>>1317884
Sure, you could follow those instructions and make a shotgun for pocket change. Or, you can spend $119 dollars (and $25 for pipe) and make THIS shotgun!
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>>1317787
What’s up buddy
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>>1314258
That's actually pretty cool, who makes that?
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>>1319698

Nice boomstick m8. For survial purposes I would have let the rearsight stay on it.
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>>1319794
The rail has a built in rear sight.
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>>1319075
what's the consensus on that? I know of only one youtuber covering it and he's a living meme so. he did make the point that the sights are a little flimsy
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>>1319763
Springfield Armory M6 Scout
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>>1319798

Oh shit, nvm then. Good choice.
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>>1319869
Your good anon
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>>1312850
where did you buy that charging handle
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>>1319763
this >>1319812
and chiappa makes a version as well
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>>1312301
I've wanted one of these bastards for so long but they're too pricey.
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>>1312850
I have an old regular 10/22 that I love the shit out of, it's bagged me more rabbits, quail, squirrels, doves and pigeons than any other rifle I own. Lots of pot pies and stew thanks to that rifle. The take-down version would be sweet.
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>>1319922
http://www.coolguyguns.com/KIDD-Bolt-Handle-Charging-Assembly-With-Guide-Rod-Springs_p_34.html
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>>1320307
Same boat but I’ve also heard that the fold down bipod is a little delicate. No experience personally.
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>>1312302
M4 Survival rifle.
Very simple and durable, but in a semi odd chambering. .22 Hornet.

Originals are pricey, well over $1,000.00.

You will be better served by a 10-22.
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>>1312463
Interesting, I own three, but fragile. Magazines are not well designed. Most aftermarket mags are of horrible quality.

These AR-7's should sell for no more than $100.00.

If you buy one, buy it because you like it, not because you think it will be a "good survival rifle".
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>>1313711
What all am I looking at here?
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>>1315548
What have you been smoking? Ten years ago they were $79.99 each. A crate of five was around $300-350 with no handpicked selection, or close to $400 for handpicked rifles.
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>>1312699
My brother.




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