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#240-“Toothy” Edition

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>>1308658

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

Talk about fishin
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>>1312785
Should I get a Hobie or Native kayak?

Deciding on the Pro Angler 14 or Slayer
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1st for smallmouth
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can't wait for the weekend!
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>>1312837
>only hitting the water on the weekend
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I'ma go fishing in the rain for the first time tomorrow. Anything special to do think about other than like a rain jacket?
How sensitive are my reels for the rain?
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Grinner knot or Palomar knot?
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>>1312874
Palomar is GOAT
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>>1312853
>being unemployed
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>>1312856
What reels are they?
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>>1312906
Mid range Abu spinning and baitcasters.
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Hey guys I'm spooled my 4000 size reel with 20lb mono even though it's rated only for 12 lb @ 195 yards. Is this safe?
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>>1312913
its gunna suck dick. Line twist is going to be disgusting
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>>1312913

absolutely retarded. Posts like this are the reason I don't post in these threads other than to shame shimanolets. What you think would be common sense (following Line ratings) doesn't even happen here.
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>>1312901
Go after work
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>>1312913
its about as safe as being gay, which you clearly are.
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>>1312789

Hobie. I am getting one soon as well.
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Hi all I'm the ghosting italianon. Finally got the time to hit the water and tried the lures from secret santa all round pic related unfortunately few bites but no fish, gonna try them Friday from shore
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>>1312931
Oh btw only notable catch was this tench at around 1.5/1.6 kgs
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>>1312915
>>1312919
>>1312924
So should I just scrap going fishing? I've been waiting for this and now I don't know if it's just going to be a waste of time. Also the line is really supple if that means anything to the outcome.
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>>1312937
No, go fish with that line. Then when you get home throw it out and put the right line on. Next time you go fish with that right line you’ll realize why you’re an idiot
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>>1312937

>do something wrong
>i give up XD

pathetic.
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How do I use my fishing knowledge to get a gf?
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redpill me on barbless hooks
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>>1312959
open anuz
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>>1312909
Should be fine abu seals them up fairly well, rain water can be dirty so clean them up with fresh water when you get home.
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>>1312874
I used Grinner for many years and it has never failed me, I only started doing Palomar because it is easier and quicker and I've never had the Palomar fail on me either.
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>>1312913
> 20 lb mono
> spinning reel
> 4000 size spinning reel
RIP anon. If you gonna put 20 lb line on a spinning reel, use braid then connect it to a 20lb mono/fluoro leader.
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>>1312913
You will DIE
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>>1312961
>easier to lose fish
>easier to get hook out of fish
>some places require barbless hooks to be used
That's about it. They are good for catch and release because it doesn't damage the fish as much as a barbed hook.
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>>1313011
>it doesn't damage the fish as much as a barbed hook.
Isn't that negated by people who actually know how to take out a hook instead of pulling and twisting on it like a hamfisted mong aka 75% of fishermen?
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>>1313016
No. Even if you take out a barbed hook right it still causes more damage to the fish. If you want to test this, stick a barbless hook into your arm. It will come right out. Stick a barbed hook into your arm and you will need to tear it out. Also I know for barbed hooks you push it through and then cut the tip off to get it out. This is just an example because you don't do that to get a hook out of a fish.
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Find me the walleye bros. names removed from the chart because i dont need any more people shitting up what used to be an amazing fishery. shit's been downhill for several years now
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>>1313018
I don’t understand how people struggle on smaller lakes like this. Just fuckin go out where its deep, fish for ~30 mins, if nothing comes of it move 5 shallower. Repeat until you get on fish. It doesn’t even take a full day to figure out where fish will be.
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>>1313023
its an 800 acre lake. if i did this it would take me a week fishing all day to fish the whole thing
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>>1312961
>>1313011
>easier to get hook out of yourself if you fuck up
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>>1312913
>>1312959
Easily the most cancerous thread we've ever had and one of our regulars is a gay furry.
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>>1313011
>>1313027
>get hook out of yourself
This especially.

If you're worried about losing fish easily then learn how to set a hook better.
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>>1313030
traps arent gay
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>>1312959
just dangle the ol worm out there. eventually you'll get a taker. it may take a bit of sorting before you find a keeper though
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>>1313038
Didn't mention traps, did I?
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>>1313026
800 acres isn’t big. My two main lakes I fish are 80 square miles and 415,000 square miles. If you find them at one depth, they will be at the same depth elsewhere in the lake. I promise you it really isn’t difficult.
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>>1313026
>it would take me a week fishing all day to fish the whole thing

Nigger are you retarded? 800 acres is fucking tiny
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>>1313047
>415,000 square miles
where is there a lake 2/3 the size of alaska?

>>1313050
should have also mentioned its an electric only lake. it takes an hour to troll one shoreline
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>>1313051
It’s called Lake Ontario.

>>1313051
Sounds like excuses. I bring my canoe for lakes that small
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>>1313051
>>1313059
Lmfao. Just realized google told me the province of Ontario and not Lake Ontario. Lake Ontario is 7,000 somthing
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>>1313059
what did he mean by this?
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>>1313033
and keep tension
>>1313030
can confirm
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>>1312921
can't. spots are too far away
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>>1312959

Designate girl as target species. What is environment and "diet" of target species?
Think of yourself as bait. Realize your current self is not fantastic bait.


A. Consider different target species to match available bait. ( pick less prime lady)

B. Do your best to improve bait (self). Better economic stability so you can focus on improving your quality of life, eat healthier/better food, work out so you can look and feel better and more confident. Improve your mind. Challenge yourself. Throw that bait out there again, see if you catch something better.

Learn more about target species and ideal interaction through experience. Maintain and improve bait.

Don't forget to go actual fishing.
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>>1313101
The threads are even sponsored.
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>>1312959
Start to realize that just like in fishing you're probably never gonna catch anything and if you do it's gonna be trash.
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>>1313018
wait for cloudy/rainy conditions, find rocks, fish rocks with jerkbait...
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>>1313101
lmao I bet you don't even suck DICK faggot
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If 10lbs braid is 0.008" and 20lbs braid is 0.009" why do so many people say to use 10lbs if you can get twice the test for only 0.001" extra diameter?
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>visit old pond I used to get keepers out of
>littered with lily pads
What do I DO? All my usual stuff is getting instantly snagged.
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>>1313290
Hollow body frog. My personal favorite way of catching largemouth.
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>>1313290
Rig with weedless hooks. What's your usual stuff?
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>>1312913
don't do this, it creates delicious banana cookies.
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>>1313294
Spinners and jigs.
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>>1313290
weedless paddle-tail, grass hog, cmon bro
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>>1313296
Jig and worm? Just set the body of the worm against the hook.

For spinners, i start reeling before they hit the water.
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>>1312959
Throw an explosive in the water and pick out the best one when they float to the top.
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>>1313290
Hollow frog.
Weedless punch jig.
Buzzbait in open areas.
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Waiting for JDM reels to come in the mail.

wacky rig is also proving to be master race
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>>1313242
You wish you could get wish someone who sucks dick like I do
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>>1313358
All those carp teach you some techniques?
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>>1313358
I'm amazed someone could even get a boner for a huge fat bearded ugly retard like yourself. Maybe the gay furry costume helps.
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>>1312901
Whatever, filthy hetero
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>>1313038
Traps are gay. If they weren't gay, it wouldn't be a trap, ipso factso.
>>1313026
>>1313051
>electric only lake. it takes an hour to troll one shoreline
Eh, you need a bigger trolling motor, you should be able to troll the whole shoreline in that amount of time and every time you reset deeper, you will shorten that distance. Trolling slowly is often a mistake, especially with larger baits. My best walleye was caught trolling over 2.5 mph, my best northern over 3 mph.

My electric trolling motor will pull my boat all the way to 4.3 mph, and I've caught nice fish at 4 mph.
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thoughts on:
kastking's more expensive baitcasters ($40+ amazon price)?
saltwater fishing + gear (off pier)?
live bait vs lures?
why is fishing so complicated?
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>>1313442
Biggest question is, where are you fishing here?

Down here, in the Gulf, pier fishing pretty much goes as following:

Anything from a size 2000 to a size 4000 reel should be fine for most normal sized fish.

6000-7000 if you're going after yuuge fish. 8000 is overkill but will easily get the job done.


Cut mullet, dead crabs, any type of live croaker/pinfish will attract a big ass ray, shark, oversized/bull redfish, black drum, etc.

Live shrimp for speckled trout & redfish, probably flounder. Finger mullet works good for flounder.

I personally let bait soak on a bigger rod and throw lures on my lighter rods/reels.
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>>1313453
tampa. got fresh and saltwater. need a separate rod for salt or rinse after is fine? thanks for the other advice.
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>>1313296
inline spinners are fairly weedless by design, and you can get weedless jigs.
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god damn it I want to be put on a fucking king mack so bad. i saw a guy fight a monster one off gulf shores pier years ago and it must of ran at least 100 yards multiple times.
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Do you guys believe in all of these fishing apps that tell you when it's a good time to fish?
It says there is a 93/100 in "fish activity" today which is the highest I've ever seen, I'm gonna sneak down to the harbor later today just for shits and giggles.
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Remember to clean up after yourselves. Nothing ruins a nice day out like being surrounded by trash.
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>B-But Diawa has superior reels

Kek
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Anyone know of a naked underspin head that doesn’t have a fine wire hook?

I like the Blakemore Road Runner with bucktail because it has, I believe, a 2X wire 3/0 hook. The only problem is they have the bucktail, so it’s somewhat difficult to throw a swimbait trailer on the back. Am I asking too much?
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>>1313613
You can look through the underspin section of tacklewarehouse and see what you like. The only one I know tnat would have thicc hook is warbait one since they are designed for saltwater but that’s a whooping $8 per jig head.
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>>1313599
I wouldn't say superior, but Daiwa/Shimano are neck and neck for making the best reels in the world. No one else touches those two.
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>>1313672
This.
I don't get why Abu or Lews fanboys exist.
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>>1313695
Because all spinning reels are basically the same thing, and the other companies casting reels are definitely competitive in the $200-$300 range.
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>>1313728
Lews and Abu don't seem to have a gimmick that warrants someone to buy their products though.
Shimano has the best centrifugal breaking system, DC breaks, and MGL spools. Daiwa has probably the best magnetic breaks, TWS which is nice for fluoro, and their SV is pretty nice.
So it seems like at every price point you might as well get the Daiwa or Shimano.
The Curado 200K/70 and Tatula SV lock down the $150-$200 range, for $200-$300 The Chronarch MGL and Zillion are better buys than any Lews offering. I guess the MGX extreme is nice for the $350 bracket, but for $70 more you can just get an Aldebaren.
If we go down to the low $100 then I think the Tatula CT is more flexible than the Mach 2.
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>>1313695
I wouldn't call myself a fanboy but our family has fished with nothing but Abu reels since the 70's and we've never had any problems whatsoever.
When I say Abu reels I mean Abu reels that say "MADE IN SWEDEN" on the side.
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Why is this so fucking hard?

I've spent 8 hours fishing today, 6 hours in waders walking up and down the coast fishing all the spots that people have said are good, my legs are fucking killing me right now.
I then spent another 2 hours in frustration at the harbor and not a single bite.

I've still enjoyed my day but this is my third attempt and I still haven't caught anything but seaweed.
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>>1313669
Hm. I have no problem throwing them on spinning gear, but I’ll have to get a dedicated setup for it because I don’t like throwing them on braid. It’s fine though, I’ll probably throw shad raps on it, too.
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>>1313784
Salt is a meme my dude. Just freshwater fish and catch dinks all day.
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>>1313786
I'm fishing in brackish water. Other people catch plenty but not me? Why the fuck is it so? I'm using the same lures other people say they catch fish with.
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>>1313795
What lures would those be? They might be adding a different kind of action than you with the rods.
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>>1313801
Today on the coast this plug saw the most use, 8cm long 28 grams / 3.1 inches 0.9 ounces, I switched it up with some spoons that were of the equivalent size and weight.
I know for a FACT this exact plug catches a lot of sea trout and cod in the exact same areas I've been fishing.
In the harbor I almost went through my entire plano of spoons, spinners and smaller plugs, mostly out of frustration.

I know my equipment is on point which leaves only two things, extremely bad luck or I'm just shit at fishing.
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>>1313809
might be the wrong time of day for you. you arent casting it where theyre feeding at that time.
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>>1313570
Some of these people do this on purpose, I once saw a guy walk past a garbage can to throw his stuff into a bush.
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>fishing youtube channels always get 5+ fish a video
they have to be faking it right?
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>>1313570
Today while having lunch I saw an older man hook an old plastic bag, instead of throwing it in the trash or simply leaving it on the side - he fucking threw it back into the water. I whistled at him from across the street and he just started shouting in what sounded like Arabic while gesticulating like he was possessed.
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>>1313818
They are pros. Same reason they have youtube channels and you don't. Git gud.
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>>1313823
Having a YouTube channel only requires editing skills and charisma.
Googan queers have plenty of videos of them catching like 1 fish or getting outright skunked and they still have successful channels.
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>charisma
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>>1313672
>>1313599
what's the best daiwa/shimano saltwater reel under $100?
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>>1313854
Probably the Sahara spinning reel.
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>>1313830
>be out fishing
>catch nothing
>don’t post video of that day
>eventually have a nice day with a bunch of catches
>upload that days footage

It’s not rocket science
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>>1313854
Without a doubt the Daiwa BG, but depending on the size you get it can be $99-$129
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We have some serious drought right now in Sweden, but fishing the coast should still be alright no?
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>>1313864
reviews seem a bit iffy though
>>1313876
different tech for different sizes? id rather not get a 4500 if possible but how much better would it be to have manual bail and the dual anti-reverse? i guess bail can be more durable but also more tedious being manual but i dunno about the dual thing.
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I can only wait so long on the mail

>>1313818

depends how and what your fishing for. I go bass fishing every other day and on a bad day catch 2-3 on a good day will go double digits.

Sounds like you might need to git gud bud
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>>1313910
Size matters more depending on the size line and what you're throwing.
Heads up though that Daiwa's sizing is bigger compared to Shimano. If you're worried about form factor a 2500 Daiwa is slightly larger form factor than a Shimano 3000, but the 3000 should have a deeper spool.
Anyways for someone to recommend you a size we need to know your rod and what lure/bait you'll be using.
Also regardless of if a reel has a manual bail or not, you should always be flipping the bail by hand since it's better for the longevity of the gears.
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Any knots I need to know other than palomer, double uni, surgeon loop, and arbor?
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>>1313949
FG and skid's.
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>>1313890
no, even the water is dry and all the fish are dead
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>>1313818
The ones I watch, that's not really true. Fisherman's life has some amazingly comfy catch and cooks, but he even says if he doesn't get a good fish or many he throws the footage onto his second channel. Think about it. You are trying to put out a good video. Hard to put out a good fishing video if you got skunked all day
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>>1313910
It's a 60 to 70 dollar reel and 50 on sale man. What do you expect? A Stella or stradic ci4 for the 55 bucks?
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>>1313910
Dual anti-reverse is not really that neccessary, especially if you are using smaller reel for relatively smaller species. Having the 2nd anti-reverse add on weight for the reel and also some extra resistance when reeling. It only kicks in if the main anti-reverse fail. You also should flip the bail manually everytime while using spinning reel as well.
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>first catch of the year
>first catch in almost five years
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>>1314062
>fishlets
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What pound braided line for general use, freshwater bass/walleye? I'm thinking 20# but I'm worried I might lose a little casting distance and I love to lure fish. Would 10# cause me any problems? I'm mostly worried about powering through snags, although I don't fish heavy cover like pads very much.
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>>1313949
improved clinch knot, trilene knot
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>>1313830
they are absolute cancer though
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>>1313818
>Tim Galati is faking it
yeah, no bro
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>>1313795
>>1313784
>I'm an entitled youth that thinks things should be easy
give it enough time, do enough research on your waterway and species, the fishing gods will bestow their grace on you eventually. Guaranteed.
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>>1314105
what reel are you using?

I use 30# 832 and 50# 832. Cast across the lake man.

Don't go 10 or 20 if you using a baitcaster. I will dig in when you set the hook and will get snags when casting.
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>>1314114
Stradic 2500
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>>1314116
>>1314114
which is a spinning reel of course, I hate baitcasters.
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>>1314062
>>1314063
Not bad, grats on getting back to it.
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>>1313766
>Lews and Abu don't seem to have a gimmick that warrants someone to buy their products though.
Well if it's really a gimmick then it's not worth the extra money. I like abus braking system a lot. Lews is okay. Not great but i haven't been disappointed. I like having a variety of reels, so I try not to get too autistic.

>>1314116
You won't lose that much from 20#
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>>1313949
Nail knot, blood knot, albright knot, davy knot(if you ever want a knot for quickly tying on dry flies or nymphs or even an inline spinner in a pinch).
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>>1313854
i bought a shimano nasci 4k ( like $130) a year or so ago, and it has done nothing but impress me,
light versitile, 22 lbs of drag if needed, super smooth,
the line lay on mine is a bit hippy, and apparently thats a common "problem" but its not really a problem
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>>1314112
This. It's about putting in the work. It's called fishing not catching. Grind hard and you'll catch fish.
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Sometimes it's ok to give up on big fish.
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>>1312785

Fishfags of 4Chan - I need your help. In SC, went fishing off a dock in a saltwater river, caught some finger mullet, put it on a circle hook with a 1 oz egg sinker, tossed it out there(I'm using 30 lb PowerPro braid and a foot and half of 40 lb mono leader). Thought I might be caught up in some sea reeds floating on the surface, but I'm hooked up to something, it starts running and I tighten the drag. I fight it for almost an hour(50 minutes). I'm on a 7 ft MH rod and a 4000 size reel. I'm fighting fighting fighting this thing is taking me all over the place, up and down the dock. I think I finally get him up to the surface and catch a glimpse of what might be a shark or a ray(it's now dark). Every time I bring him up he fights, sometimes making more runs. He starts going under the dock and I try muscling him away but I can't. I try pulling him out, different angles on the dock, etc. My rod is bent like crazy and CRACK!! Rod breaks in half. What was it and what did I do wrong? I can't remember fighting anything this long and I'm super bummed I didn't land it. Cheer me up. I need a hug. And a new fishing rod. Pic possibly related.
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>>1313957
Both look good thanks.
>>1314108
I use the improved clinch sometimes for fast mono tying, but aren't both generally weaker than palomar?
>>1314165
I don't fly so the nail and davy probably don't matter as much, and isn't double unit generally better than blood knot?
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>>1314182
most of my favorite days of fishing were drinking beer and slaying dinks
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>>1314183
sounds like it was a stingray to me. i've seen plenty of people break rods, reels, and line on them. the funniest one i saw was one broke the reel off of a spinning rod (the stem part snapped) and then the reel ripped off every eye guide. it was a loud snap and then loud pops, the guy was standing there with a rod blank unsure of what just happened. if it was a shark it would have broken you off by then and a cobia would have been landed by then
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>>1314187
I use a blood knot more for mono to mono but for everything else I prefer double uni. Nail knot is still useful if you got two lines of vastly different diameters such as running really high test mono or flouro. I almost forgot another favorite of mine that I use a lot: the bimini twist.
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>>1314183
Sounds like a ray to me. Been fishing in the coastal Carolinas since 2014 and caught plenty. Pulling up a ray is like pulling up a suction cup or a rubber mat off a wet floor.
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>>1314193

Haha. Yeah - at least he didn't get my reel. What about the long runs? The first one he made - he almost spooled me. Stingrays do that? I did notice no head-shaking, like one would expect with a shark.
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>>1314219

I've caught rays before, but I guess it's been a while. And I don't think I've ever hooked into one this big. What confused me was the long initial run and all the subsequent shorter runs. I didn't feel any head-shaking, which I guess I would have had it been a shark.
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Went on charter with cousin the other day, didn't pay (Thank God)
>Show up at bay channel
>current ripping
>ask capt for a bank sinker so i can catch some nice lane snapper, triggers and porgies
>faggot only has the terrible jigs he made, oversized hooks
>only caught a grunt drifting oversized pilchard into the chum slick
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>>1314223
Only thing I could think of. A cobia would tire out after a while. False albacore run forever and a day but they jump too and you'd know if it was an albie. Rays tend to like to run and wrap you up.
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>>1314229

You're probably right. I hate the not knowing. Does that make sense? Thanks for the info.
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>>1314237
I totally get it. I can almost guarantee it was a ray after getting them on bycatch for so long. My home waters are the Pamlico Sound, Bogue Inlet, and Beaufort Inlet in North Carolina so I'm probably not more than a day's drive from where you were. Similar area so I'm positive that's what it was.
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>>1314246

Where's Pamlico Sound? I'm from Hilton Head, SC, but I was fishing a part of the May River in Bluffton.
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>>1314223
No head shaking is ray’s signature. If a ray feels too big for my set up, I grab my line and break it up all the time before it wastes my time and does more damage to my gear. Good lucky landing those fuckers near any rocks or structures on an undersize gear
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>>1314248
East NC. Part of the Intracoastal Waterway and the Neuse River in New Bern, NC flows into it. I used to play rugby with some guys from Hilton Head when I was still on active duty. Nice area.
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>>1314264

Noted. That's exactly what I'll do next time.
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>>1314271

Cool. NC has some awesome fishing. Yeah - the "Head Rugby" team. Not sure they're still around. You a marine?
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damn chinese fishing stuff is cheap. i won't feel bad about losing a lure anymore.
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>>1314274
Was a Navy Corpsman for 6 years. Medically retired last year. Spent my entire career attached to the Marines.
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is the shimano Catana 2500 the best reel available in the 30-35€ price range?
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So my friend invited me to go Cobia fishing with him, so i need some new gear, keep in mind i've only ever been UL fishing for about a year so im just throwing what i *think* is what i need.
>80PP braided
>Uglystik tiger elite heavy rod 7Ft
>Slammer 3 6500(been meaning to get this for a while)
>10/0 Mustad circle hooks
>100lb steel wire leader

Im really open to what i need to change, i know i could find a better rod. I imagine we are going to use soft shell crab for bait.
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>>1314278
Does medically retired mean you got too fat? Because that's what that means 9/10 times or did you get a real injury.
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>>1314304
You could substitute the steel leader for 80lb fluorocarbon
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Heading to the river today for some smallmouth, lads. Wish me luck
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>>1313786
Lel
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>>1314398
That's a nice bowfin.
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I'm gonna go saltwater fishing for the first time today. I'm on the Connecticut side of long Island sound, fishing from a jetty. What should I fish for this time of year? What bait? Can I use those spider crabs which there are billions of as bait?
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>tfw dyspraxic and can't tie knots
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>>1314443
Do yourself a favor and stop by a local shop, ask them what people are catching fish with and buy it from them. Brick and mortar tackle shops are a dying breed in the era of amazon, gotta keep that good shit alive. If all else fails get a box of frozen squid.
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>>1313784
Start with bait fishing? Lure fishing is hard if you're casting where there are no fish. Also it took me 4-5 trips (and a lot of lost tackle) before I landed my first surf fish; I realized I wasn't casting out far enough.
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>>1314330
thank you anon.
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My guides are starting to get a bunch of pink residue from my braid. Is using alcohol to clean them okay?
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>>1314221
oh yeah i've seen guys get spooled entirely with setups like yours
>>1314237
you can rest assured it was a stingray
>>1314304
dont go steel wire, go 80 pound flouro. tie a couple feet on with an FG knot and then 10/0 hooks seems excessive, you should be able to get away with 5/0 or 6/0 but if you really want 10/0 you willl be fine
>>1314478
i would think soapy water would be fine
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>>1314485
I thought about soap, but I thought that some soap residue might get left behind.
Alcohol seems to not have this issue since it evaporates quickly, but I'm unsure if alcohol is bad for the inserts.
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>>1312785
About how much line is on this spool?

I need about 80 yards worth to fill up a reel.
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Just bought me a new fly rod, counting down the minutes until 4. Gonna hit the river until 830 tonight fgts.

Gonna try and get me some good steelhead din dins
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>>1312901
>being a lazy faggot and waiting till the weekend

go after work homo
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>>1314493
300 numb nuts
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>>1314507
Nice man. waiting on the mail for my new reel to be delivered today. In the mean time going shopping for a rod.

Here's a steel I caught yesterday
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Caught on a plain old worm after wasting like 2 hours with various plastics and spinners. He's dirty because he kept fighting even after I landed him.
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>>1313456
Kastking stuff is serviceable but not great. That being said, a low profile memecaster isn't really a great choice for piers due to the low line capacity and top end drag tension (most of the kastkings I've seen won't do over about 6lbs of drag regardless of what the box says).

A good rinse and monthly lube is all that's necessary to keep it from corroding.
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>>1313613
Fish Head Spins. Either a 2x or 4x hook depending on weight.
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>>1314062
>>1314063
Day 2. Fish are still small.
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>>1313695
Lews was the only game in town for high gear ratio reels, and are one of the best choices in the $80-110 bracket. Above that they crap out though.
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>>1314647
Lews is good for freshwater but they have shielding issues with reels so I stay away from them as I do a lot of saltwater.
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>>1314630
Well it's obviously not filled
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>>1313613
Owner makes a twistlock with an underspin if you don't care about not having an exposed hook.
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>>1314646
Noice. It's been 10+ years since I last fished and I spent the first hour catching trees.
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>>1314646
Hook a 4/0 circle hook through its jaw, sling it into a deep hole or channel, and catch a catfish with it.
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went for orientation today at the school I’m transferring to. Took this from the campus shore. I think I’m gunna like it here lads
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Making some trout soup 1am, happy weekend anons.
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>>1314637
Good catch but his jaw looks all fucked up m8.
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>keep hearing about googan squad
>wtf fuck is that
>youtube it
texas deserves to be nuked
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>>1314664
I prefer going through the back. Seems to get more action.
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>>1314489
I mean if you just rinse it really well maybe even scrub it with a clean wet clothes or paper towel it should take any soap off
>>1314659
How much did you use so far?
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>>1314662
It's been fun getting back into it.
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>>1314684
See, that's the thing. I don't remember if I've filled 2 or 3 reels with it or exactly how much I've used. All I know is that I've used enough each time to not dig into my backing and 2 of the fills used the same amount of line.

I might just buy another 150 yard spool because I was thinking about switching to yellow anyway.
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>just soak bait for catfish anon, it's the easiest fish to catch
>just use live or cut bluegill anon, catfish love that
>just watch catfish and carp's guides anon, that will explain everything you need to know
t. have gone for catfish at all times of the day and night for the last month at a few piers and ponds that have tons of catfish without even a nibble. Have tried chicken liver/bluegill/hotdog mixed with jello/chicken chunks in chicken blood/nightcrawlers. I really don't get this at all. I'm in a spot where people catch channel cats all the time on the exact same baits I'm using with the same rigs. The only fish I've caught here was a few drum and largemouth bass.
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>>1314681
I always seem to kill them going through the back. I guess I do it in the wrong spot.
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>>1314679
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>>1314695
That's real weird dude. I catch catfish accidentally most of the time. Then again, the one time I targeted them I didn't catch one until I gave up and started jigging a Gulp minnow for panfish.
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>>1314642
i went to bass pro shop and dick's and tested out all their <$100 reels. nothing felt really good as expected. went and ordered the kastking speed demon pro and valiant eagle and i'll just return them if i don't like em. i really just want to try 9.3:1 gear ratio, and both are saltwater rated at least.
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>>1314692
It really has. Ended up breaking a shitty 10yo reel since i never maintained it, and had some interesting conversations since i had no idea what i was doing.
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>>1314711
>9.3:1
>salt
Seems overly fast to me desu. Gonna really struggle with bigger fish, and again they don't have stiff drags
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How do I gut hook fewer fish? It seems like I get into a funk now and again where I either snatch the hook before it is in the fish's mouth or I wait too long and damn near out the other end of them. I even managed it with circle hooks more than once.
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>>1314714
I mean the baitcaster is mainly going to be my ultraportable freshwater gear. It's just a bonus to have it work for salt as well.
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>>1314718
Well that should work then
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>>1314717
Bigger hooks.
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>>1314713
I found a rod and reel in my moms shed that she didn't want and spent about $50 on new line and some tackle.
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>>1314394
Fuck y’all I didn’t need your wishes anyway

>>1314644
>>1314660
Thanks lads
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>>1314718
Ultraportable?

What's your guys rigs weight out to. 280g here total with lure.
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>>1314722
I can honestly say I didn't think little bluegill and the like would be able to swallow a size 4 hook but they've proven me wrong more than once.
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>>1314695
Try fresh garlic butter sprayed on a live nightcrawler and very slowly jig it along the bottom. Seems to get me cats when nothing else works.
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>>1314730
lol nice little smallie
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>>1314773
Perch are gready little size queens, if they can find a way to get it in their hole they will.
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>>1314727
>Quantum
Eh, can't argue with free I guess.

Whatcha gonna chase with it?
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>>1314784
I'll try that tonight, thanks
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>>1314792
It was on a 7' Abu Garcia.
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>>1314817
well hooray for that then.

you pestering bass with it?
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>skunked all day
>basically given up
>it's sundown
>say fuck it and try a top water popper for the first time
>instantly slaying 2 to 3 pounders one after another
I've never had so much fun.
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>>1314835
Bass and assorted panfish. I want to do some night fishing for bullhead with a friend soon too.
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>>1314705
I'm not wrong.
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>>1314766
Well I don't have the reel in yet, but it's going to be baitcaster (6.5oz) + telescopic rod (4.9oz), which would already be 11.4oz/323 grams without line and lure. I was originally going to get a smaller baitcaster but adding a bit more weight for added saltwater use is worth it for me. It's also more portable due to the telescopic rod and I can carry it on the side of my backpack. Back when I fished with my gramps he only used cane and telescopic spinner rods and it was really comfy. He's too old and senile to fish now though.
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>>1314880
>telescoping rod

Lel. U done goofed
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>>1314882
mate my gramps was catching 15lb+ fish with his shitty chinese telescopic combos. Never even maintained the thing and it still probably works.
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>>1314886
> it’s a fishing newfag justifying his shitty choice of gear with “muh grandpa” episode
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>>1314893
fuck of retard
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>>1314894
Have fun with your new setup anon

Lol
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>>1312785
this bitch makes me diamonds
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>>1314895
you fucking bet i will bitch
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>>1314785
Picture doesn’t do it justice. It was actually about 15” and fought harder than a 3lb largemouth.

Daily reminder that smallies a best
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>>1314328
Lol no. I got out cuz of PTSD, bipolar disorder, and a traumatic brain injury.
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>>1314784
Mix garlic powder, fruit punch kool-aid, and dollar store hot dogs. Works every time for me.
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>>1314693
okay here's what you can do. there should be a football field near you somewhere. tie one end of the line to the goal post, then walk out. add 10 yards to whatever yard line you're standing on when you run out of line and thats how much is left. then a drill with a bolt holding the spool will be good for reeling it all back on to the spool quickly
>>1314717
circle hook
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>>1314961
That's what I tried. I saw the catfish and carp vid on it. Got me a drum but no catfish
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Alright lads, I ordered a Zebco Martin fly fishing kit. I figured that instead of spending loads of money buying the pieces individually (and being overwhelmed by all the bits and pieces I need to buy), I'll start cheap with a pre-lined combo and gradually replace parts of it as I go along.

I'm pretty excited about it. Maybe I'll make some vlogs to record my newbie experiences with it
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Should I buy/make a plug bag for my surf gear? Shopping for a tacklebox online is kinda hard, getting an idea of the scale of it all.
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Just got into smallmouth fishing doing pretty well but they seem to not like most of my lures. Only 2 on drop shot but I’ve gotten like 10 on topwater this past week most were decent and hard fighting. Just lost a monster 20 mins ago night fishing at a boat ramp on a kvd popper. Fucker pulled so hard my hooks just ripped out which is weird but would of not happened if my drag was a little looser that’s sure is fishing though. Love my medium heavy Meme caster though
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>>1314485
thanks for the advice Skid!
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>>1315013
here's the order i think you will wind up wanting to replace things
>rod
this is probably going to be the first thing to break
>line
its probably going to suddenly not feel so nice on a nice rod
>reel
for most freshwater applications the reel is just to hold your line

what weight is your rod and what do you plan on fishing for?
>>1315018
smallies are agressive and key in on weird things. honestly if i was going to be using spinning or meme casting gear here's what i would have in my box
>black/blue finesse jigs with suitable trailers
>poppers
>small husky jerks
>maybe some senkos if they were being weird and didn't want my other presentations
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>>1315070
I'll give you a small husky jerk. If you know what I mean.
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>>1314957
How generic.

Is it annoying because people don't see your injury and just treat you like it's your fault?
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>>1315079
i'd appreciate it, lures are expensive.
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>>1315070
>what weight is your rod and what do you plan on fishing for?

I plan to fish for (12 in. max) largemouth bass and bluegills. The kit comes with 5wt line, but I plan to end up with a 4wt setup.
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>>1315099
yeah a 4 weight sounds about right for bluegill and bass. im assuming still water is on the menue? if so i reccomend a moderate fast action, it will be forgiving to cast, and easy in close but still offer power out to 70 feet, maybe even more with practice. an echo base would probably be a good option, though i wouldn't turn down a redington crosswater, or any similarly priced rod. if you're not so concerned with casting distance a cabelas bighorn fly rod should go on sale for $40ish sooner or later, and be a worthy upgrade. if you want a cheap, but very servicable line, a cabelas air cel will be solid enough. and then if you decide you're ready for a new reel, then either a cabelas prestige plus or an echo base reel would be a really solid option, i have both reels and like them both for their price point, and even use a cabelas prestige plus reel on my 8 weight for carp, steelhead, and saltwater.
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>>1315107
Yeah, it's mostly all still water, though a nearby "river" (size of a stream) is also an option, also with bass and bluegill. Was actually thinking of going the slow-ish fiberglass route though. Planning to end up with a reddington butterstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuz8Sj7k3uc
check this guy out, he's using a 7'6" 4wt butterstick. Something to look forward to :)
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Well it was a good day boys. Used the new rod and reel and caught 9 bass over 3 hours. They were mostly dinks but some had some alright chunk
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>>1315109
honestly i wouldn't go for a butterstick when a cabelas cgr is on sale right now for less than $50. i have a 2 weight cgr and couldn't be happier with it
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>>1315111
It'll be more of a luxury purchase far down the road. Maybe getting an eagle claw glass fly rod (~25 bux) in the interim if the kit rod breaks. Yeah, I'm a sucker for yellow rods.
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>>1315113
i feel it. i love glass as it is. i'd say go for a 3 weight for the eagle claw, they tend to run a little on the heavy side (my first fly rod was a 7 weight eagle claw and it needed an 8 weight line, it did terribly with a true to weight 7 weight line) im just saying that while a cgr isn't your ideal colour it is a rod that can be had (relatively) cheap and that you wont really -need- to replace. at the moment i'm saving up to buy an echo bad ass glass (still deciding on if i want the original BAG or the newer quickshot but i have a few months)
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Thinking of getting pic related for a backpacking trip. Anyone have experience with collapsable rods or similar that can be stuffed in a medium backpack?
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>>1315139
Shit forgot pic
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>>1315140
A good 4 piece break apart rod will function much better. Bass pro makes a decent one.
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>>1314977
I managed to gut hook two fish on circle hooks. No, I don't know how.
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Caught my first striped bass last night on the Long Island Sound. 16.5 pounds, what do you guys think?
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>>1315172
You're not setting your drag correctly. A fish running with bait should near set a circle hook themselves.
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>>1315140
only worthwhile telescoping is blackhawk 2.
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>>1315018
Tubes. You can’t fish for smallies without tubes. Their versatility is endless. Tube jigs, stupid rigs, texas rigs, carolina rigs, drop shots, the list goes on.

Definitely keep the drop shot. It’s so versatile. You can drop shot tubes, as previously aforementioned, finesse worms, flukes, basically anything.

Finesse jigs for sure. Might even be able to get away with full sized jigs.

Jerkbaits. They fuckin HATE jerkbaits. I’m talking the big 1/2 oz ones, not little bitch ones.

Big ones also hate squarebills and swinging jigs.
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How can I get cheap saltwater bait? Buying from tackle shops is gonna make me bankrupt.
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>>1315182
16.5 pounds, shit man. Off a boat or from shore?
I caught my first striper off long island sound shore yesterday, only 3ish pounds. Was still fun tho.
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>>1315247
Spoon and soft plastic swimbait on a jighead are your cheapest option. Most other things are more costly. Looking for stuff on sale also helps
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>>1315247
Oh and also bucktail
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>>1315247
Buy frozen squid from an Asian supermarket, or if you're really cheap, get a squid jig and fish for them yourself.
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>>1314766
is that the M1?

did you get the shiny reel cheaper because they put that handle on the wrong side?
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>>1315247
>collect mussels off he rocks
>scoop sand fleas
>dig around the mudflats for ghostshrimp
>buy a cast net
>frozen squid is cheap
>use a frozen shrimp
>buy a cheap can of mackerel
>bag of frozen peas and corn
>trawlers usually have bycatch
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>>1315018
i have good luck with small ned jigs like this
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>>1315110
Not bad at all, that's a nice one. What were you using?
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>>1315247
cast net
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Im sorry for this retarded question. Is a fishing license just for a day or does it last for a longer period of time?
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>>1315353
they sell different length periods. Ask the person whats available when you go to buy it
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>>1315354
Thanks
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I got one today!
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Anyone know more about this pedal kayak? Never thought I would see a sub $1k pedal akyak, even if it is $999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sATrSQnFtAk
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>>1315372
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>>1315250
Off of a boat, we were by Westchester and The Bronx. Out there for seven hours and got two fish. Apparently they're moving out towards Montauk as the sound warms up
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Got skunked for the first time in over a month today, lads.
Went to the pond with only drop shot equipment and it was so windy I couldn't feel the weight making contact with the bottom.
Should've brought a memecaster with a chatterbait or swimjig since the the shad were being actively hunted.
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>>1315442
That's the norm: Fish T-rigs, wacky worms, craws, and the like when it's "supposed" to work. The shad are active, and the top water game is exploding.

OK, so go back the same time of day the next week with some swim baits. Not a goddamned bite, again.

Take both, and as soon as you're in sight of the water, you see the recent rain has it the color of clay, the current is screaming, and nothing can see more than two inches, much less move without being swept away.

Rinse and repeat.
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>>1314666
good choice of schools m8
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>>1315446
Pretty soon I'll be like a 30 year old boomer taking 4 setups to a small pond.
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>>1315449
Or 1 flyrod and a good assortment :)
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>>1315449
Been doing that since I was 16. Dad always thought I was weird for doing it. Was I a 16 year old boomer?
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>>1315446
Fuck rain. When we were in a month long drought I was slamming 5 fish in an hour easy, and now that it's raining every other day I get 1 fish an hour.
I know that even 5/hr isn't good, but in an incredibly pressured spot I look like a pro compared to the Freds and Dales going out with their BPS brand combo and catching nothing all day.
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hi /out/. i just moved to central oregon from a big city and i need a (mostly solitary) hobby that isn't drinking in my room playing video games. i got sent away to boarding school as a teenager and went fly fishing a couple times and even though i never caught anything, i really enjoyed it. i'm thinking of picking up fishing again. i'm still in the beginning phases of looking into it, but i guess my dream scenario would be hiking 4 or 5 miles out (maybe more eventually, when i get back in shape) to a spot where there's hopefully nobody else there and catching myself something to bring home to grill up and eat for dinner. i did a little bit of reading about fly vs spin but i wanted to ask you guys what you'd recommend for a beginner. is fly fishing a meme or is it actually worth it to spend the time and figure out how to make it work?
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>>1314637
Noice, fucking hate it when you get them all nice and lined up on the brag mat for a photo and they jump into the dirt right before you can get a shot.
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>>1314672
Looks comfy as, can't wait for winter to end so I can go camping again.
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>>1315473
recreational fishing as a whole is a meme. fly fishing is a meme, baitcasters are memes, hooks are memes, and thats all because fishing recreationaly isn't about the fish. if it was about fish we'd fish with nets like people in third world countries where fishing is about the fish. so with that out of the way, just because something is a meme doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. there are pros and cons of every style of fishing
>conventional fishing
less intimidating to get in to because it's not so oddly mystical. you can go to any walmart and for about $100 you can have a spinning rod and reel, line, and a few basic pieces of tackle and start fishing. you might not catch anything right away, and your gear might not be the best, but you will have your feet securely wet and you will have plenty of potential to catch fish.

the pros of fly fishing is it's been scientifically proven to be relaxing in the same way as yoga, though while you're still going through the growing pains of learning to cast and learning to fish at the same time, it can be frustrating. i can think of plenty of occasions where i put away a fly rod and went home because i got frustrated. it's probably going to be more expensive, too. the cheapest worth-while fly rod combo i can think of is a cabelas wind river/big horn fly rod/reel combo. you just need flies and leader material, and you will probably be coming in over $100 and outgrow your gear in a season realising you want either a faster or slower action rod, different weight rod, or something broke. i personally find fly fishing to be much more fun than spin fishing, and the increased cost is worth the increased fun. a bass on a 9 foot 8 weight rod is always going to be more fun to me than a bass on a medium power 7 foot spinning rod, just because it makes the fish feel like it's fighting harder, and i worked harder for the fish so i get some satisfaction out of that, but im also the kind of masochist who does an SL1 run on dark souls
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>>1315449
>Boomer
>30 year-old
The Baby Boomers were born much longer ago. Nice try, though. You mean Gen X-er.
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>>1315458
I love the rain. I love being outside in a light to moderate rain, really. But when it comes to fishing, I really have to reconsider going out.

If I'm at a pond or lake, it might not be too big of a deal. But I mostly have creeks and rivers locally, and a little rain up stream means flooding down stream, besides fucking over the fishing. I've seen my closest creek rise four feet because of an afternoon thunderstorm. It rained yesterday, and the water rose two feet.

Besides that, the swift current makes these creeks and rivers change from beautifully clear water to a soupy torrent. I've tried fishing them. I've slowly lowered lures into the water, and I've watched them disappear two inches from the surface. The water is literally gritty.

1/
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>>1315493
2/

By the time the water level lowers, the fish have been washed down stream. It takes several days for any to return. The only benefit is species diversity in one spot, as a heavy rain will cause a change from long-ear sunfish and suckers to green sunfish, bluegill, and spotted bass. The next storm clears those out, and then come pumpkin seed, dollar sunfish, and shiners.

But if it's raining up stream, I GTFO because I've seen how quickly the water rises, and like hell am I going to try running down the creek to a place I can scramble up the bank.

But on smooth water? Fish love the cloudy weather. It's great. They come out of the depths, and change their feeding habits.
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>>1315490
A 30 year old is a millennial.
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>>1315500
Still not a Baby Boomer.
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>>1315500
Lool the ever moving "millennial" goalposts. If you're under 50 you're a millennial. According to shareblue you're also a boomer.
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>>1315490
It's a meme, you dip.
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>>1315330
5 inch orange pumpkin senkos wacky style
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>>1315510
No, sorry. It fucks up your gums.
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Weightless flukes and weightless senkos: should I throw them on spinning gear or a memecaster?
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>>1315543
depends on your preference. I've done both with success, for the memecaster you just have to loosen the brake knob, and cast more softly than you typically would.
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What's a good enough ultralight setup? I'm looking to spool something with 2 or 4lb mono, to take to some hidden creeks and pools in the woods, and out on my kayak. 8lb mono is a bit much for the really small stuff I want to throw for panfish.
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>>1315557
TFO Panfish 7' for $90 or St. Croix Panfish 6'9" paired with a size 1000 reel of your choice.
You could go as cheap as a Shimano Sedona or as expensive as a Stradic CI4+.
I have the St. Croix mentioned above paired with a Sedona and I'm very pleased with it, but I would not recommend a Sedona for anything bigger than panfishing as I own a size 2500 that I'm very disappointed with.
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>>1315543
Good luck on the memecaster. I like to do them on 10lb braid with a really light action “Medium” and even then they’re not going super far.

>>1315557
There’s the Okuma SST as well, I believe they make like a 7’ panfish rod that a few anons owned and always shilled when people were asking about lighter rods. I think they only run like $60 too.

I keep thinking about grabbing a “L” or “ML” and pairing it with a reel that is larger than a tiny Shimano 500 reel but not full medium weight. I really like the size of that Okuma Stratus V 25 from Dick’s. Perfect for 4lb-6lb mono and it doesn’t feel as awkward to use as the little 500 or 10 size. A combo like that with 8lb-10lb braid would be so fun fighting bigger Mayans or going for baby sneks in the rocks or 10”-12” LMB.
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>>1315536
Kek
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>>1315612
I was going to get a Curado 70 on a jerkbait rod anyways, so worst case scenario if it's still less than ideal then I'll just use them on my ML spinning setup.
>anon why haven't you already thrown flukes on your ML spinning?
Idk man I just haven't.
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>>1315612
I'll send you a Stratus V 25 if you pay for shipping.
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>>1315624
I can get a brand new one at Dick’s for $30, I’m good.
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Rate this spot.
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>>1315740
Looks promising unless you are that guy that said he lost $200 of lures into the same tree 1 day.
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>it's another 14 inch fresh water drum gets hooked and eats your lure during the pathetic ordeal
goddamn sheepshead are so lazy, I've had 5 inch dinks put up more of a fight
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>>1315748
How the fuck did he do that?
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anyone ever hook a turtle by mistake? I did yesterday but thankfully he came off without issue
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>>1315740
Looks like it holds infinite panfish, toss a 1/32 or 1/16 curly grub anywhere around that tree and you could catch bluegills and perch for hours
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>>1315095
Not really since I still live in a military heavy area and I only associate with friends who know me and my story. Good people in your life make the struggles easy to bear.

>>1315111
Trips confirm. I also have a 4wt cgr. It's my slowest rod but when I'm fishing small streams I absolutely love it. Cabelas makes fantastic fly rods at their price point.
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>>1315115
I'd get the quickshot if you're doing a lot of sight fishing. I'm about to buy an Epic fly fishing glass blank which is 8'8 for sight fishing reds(pic related) and eventually an 8' blank in 6wt for when I fish for white bass.
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This is quintessentially a Skid reference.
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>>1315778
Yeah, they’re a pain in the ass. I had a painted turtle going after a Mini-Mite today. Fuck turtles.

Also any time I see a ton of turtles out, I have shitty luck fishing.

>>1315831
Yup, Twitter and Skid are both fans of butt stuff.
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just used a memecaster for the first time today and holy fuck how do you people do it? increase spool tension? increase mag/centrifugal brakes? stop casting so hard? spent like 1/2 the time untangling the damn line and had to cut it once as well. does braided line make things any easier?
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>>1315833
>reel is known to backlash/birdsnest
>dozens of videos on YouTube to resolve this
>decides to go in blind anyways
You deserve this.
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>>1315831
>not doing both
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>>1315834
i knew what i was getting into and know it'll probably get better with practice but damn is it annoying.
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Pier fishing for catfish a few hours tonight. Caught around 7 dink channels but nothing larger. Still a good night
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>>1315508
Millennial has always meant from 82 until 96. It's just a different word for Gen Y.
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>>1315836
You need to tune your breaking system for each lure anon. I can cast almost any lure on my memecaster without thumbing the line without a backlash
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>>1315748
If I lose $200 worth of terminal tackle in one tree, I'm cutting down the goddamn tree.
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>>1315839
i thought it was really only spool tension that needed adjustments each time? but i think it's mostly that im casting too hard. if i turn all the brakes near max i never get backlash but the lure barely goes anywhere. also changing my cast even a bit can cause issues so i really just need to practice casting more.
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>>1315843
go to a park and cast over and over again with a hookless lure
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New bread inna oven
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>>1315849
MY DICK IS DIAMONDS
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>>1315838
Lol ok reddit whatever you say.
>inb4 snopes article




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