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it's winter
discuss

hard mode: post actual photos from your outings
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>>2668312
Beautiful picture.
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>>2668313
Cheers pal
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>>2668312
I want to post images, but I wear full-body cotton in winter, and I know that makes /out/ seethe uncontrollably, so I can only post this.
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Wisch Tarp?
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>>2668607
DD, because it's a british company, and they are solid tarps.
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>>2668336
Cotton chads rise up.
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got some urbex planned for tomorrow in my old school lol, gonna be like stepping back in time

99% sure i'll get caught so i'm not sure if i should bring the multitool or not, was kind of expensive and don't want it confiscated, but i know it'll be useful
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>>2668828
Post pics when you get back.
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>>2668336
nice campfire setup
The Queen's Wheelbarrow – a true British classic
Yankees with their Republican Cartwheels don't reply to me
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lagune
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>>2668336
Only brits can wear cotton.
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Some nice deals in the amazon black friday sales.
jusat nabbed a garmin extrex 32x and a pair of salewa boots. both 30% off.
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>>2668314
What brand is that pack?
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>>2669733
Dall-E
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>>2669587
It's chewsday, lad. Black Friday isn't for another three days.
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>wet and cold for the next 6 months
>don't want to leave the house never mind go /out/

Planning a Scotland motorcycle camping trip next year but not sure what month to go in. Want long days but it will be busy as fuck in proper summer.
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>>2670250
I've camped in Scotland a few times but the midges are horrific in the highlands from May to September, which is crap because that is summer. Had to abandon a camp after only one night due to how bad it was. The air was thick with them.
I'd go late April - early May.
What boike you got?
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>>2670269
S1000R, not sure if I want to do nc500 or just go up and do a load of good roads. Would be at least 4 days from the Midlands.
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>go camping
>die trapped upside down in your car in a puddle
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>>2669947
>>2669947
>>2669947
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>>2670421
Yes.
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>>2670420
I wanna see the tyres on that shitbox
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Getting a couple of weeks of gardening leave before I start my new job. Think I’ll head up to the highlands with my bike and a tent on Monday - see where I end up!
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>>2670435
beware. the weather can be serious up there.
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>>2670440
Thanks, brother, I’m a regular visitor so shouldn’t be caught unawares (not too much anyway). I was thinking of starting somewhere easily accessible and cycling south anyway. Might just start in Aviemore because trains up there are so regular and I like to start cycling as early in the morning as possible.
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>>2670443
go courrour station.
remotest in the UK.

https://www.scotlandcycleroutes.org/routes/corrour/
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Fuck that, the weather is turning now. And it's cold enough indoors as it is.
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>>2670493
Proper cold tomorrow lad
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>>2670420
qrd?
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>>2670493
Insulate Britain, am I right, lads.
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>>2671650
4 kids went missing in Wales and were found within 72 hrs in their shitty Ford Fiesta inverted in a puddle, all dead. They were driving in some storm on narrow country roads
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Not a lot of snow but it was breddy culd. Down to 15F
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>>2671782
Oops
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>>2671783
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>>2671784
Euker as we hovel for warmth
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>>2671785
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>>2671650
lads went camping.
flipped their car into a flooded ditch and died.
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>>2671782
>Down to 15F
>15F
>F
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>>2670250
>>wet and cold for the next 6 months
>>don't want to leave the house never mind go /out/
thank fucking christ this is the mindset of 99% of plebs in this country. stay the fuck indoors and let me have some peace and quiet thank you.
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>>2671885
this.
winter is far superior.
you can actually test yourself in British winter conditions. especially up in scotland.
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lads, £35 for a grivel g zero
absolute steal

https://rockrun.com/products/grivel-g-zero-axe?variant=43068189343925
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>>2671881
My b I'm a Burger misread the title
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>>2671912
Art, true expression of the soul.
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>>2670443
I did some hiking in the Cairngorms then cycled down to Edinburgh to get a train home via the Pass of Drumochter and Perth. Had a great time but morning cycling was a ball-ache with all the ice on the roads. I’ll probably go up again in December but won’t be taking the bike.
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Probably still there if anyone wants it, SE 08030 00440
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just spent nearly £500 on various winter kit
we better get some fucking snow
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>>2668314
santa
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>>2672755
Homeless santa after losing its job due to the present factory relocating to india.
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How are you meant to camp on bogland like picrel?
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>>2673623
Pull a Grylls move.
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>>2673623
>How are you meant to camp on bogland like picrel?
Pull tent out of bag
Set up tent
???
Profit
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>>2673623
Do what our ancestor did.
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Full on mogged all the gear queers up Skiddaw today with my woolchad outfit, bumbag and chinkshit barefoot boots lmao. Wtf do normies carry in these 50l expedition bags they all carry? Also I didn’t take water and just snacked on snow while I was going. Is there a reason I shouldn’t be doing that or is it fine?
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>>2674344
>Is there a reason I shouldn’t be doing that?
Heat loss, digestion issues, dysentery.
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First snow of the year, went down the woods, made a coffee, and fed some sausages to a robin. Can't wait to properly go out when I have time
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>>2674344
Yes evaluating normie fashion thats why I go /out/ too
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>>2674344
I have a real problem marrying chanspeak with the British accent in my head when I read it.
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>>2672649
Wtf did you take the laces?
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>>2670379
I've seen your bike on DBT
I have a s1000r and live in the Midlands.
Scotland is just a bigger version of the Peak District, but costs £70 to get there
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>>2674344
fug, that looks beautiful
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>>2674346
>heat loss
I was sweating balls on the way up so it wasn’t an issue to spend some body heat melting a few mouthfuls of snow.
>Digestion issues, dysentery
It’s purified by evaporation and then being blasted by uv radiation in the atmosphere. Surely that’s good enough. Obviously don’t grab a handful of sheep poo at the same time.

>>2674379
You don’t go out though.

>>2674449
It was. Another pic from today. If you didn’t manage go out and find some snow to play in this weekend I feel bad for you.
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>>2674656
Digestion issues and dysentery can be given just by the cold.
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>>2674344
>Full on mogged all the gear queers up Skiddaw today
Do people really think thoughts like this to themselves?
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>>2674656
I want to to a Bortle Class 3 site in Northumberland to spot the Northern Lights for the 1st time this weekend

Was faint, but worth it. With some long exposure and photo enhancement, we got some good pics

Kinda wanna fuck work off tomorrow to go to the Lakes
https://x.com/NLightsGallery/status/1730891468762464635?s=20

Why does snow make my heart so peaceful? I know snow changes the acoustics and dampens the noise, but the transience and delicatessens of it makes me feel much more on the moment and less cynical
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>>2674685
delicateness* (not delicatessen)

although Booths in Keswick had a good delicatessen
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>>2674671
Why yes I do look down on normie consooomers.

>>2674685
I didn’t know the northern lights could be seen that far south. Might make an effort those them if it’s somewhat doable south of Scotland.

>>2674686
Nice. Keswick is quite a comfy town.
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>>2674701
>I didn’t know the northern lights could be seen that far south.
They were visible as far south as central Europe at the start of the month. I was a bit gutted I missed that one. Get an aurora app to get alerts when they'll be visible. I think Aurora Reach is a good one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/11/06/aurora-northern-lights-europe-unitedstates/
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>frozen fog
>snow everywhere
>couldn't see the path
>kept getting lost and falling in snow-covered bogs and streams
>couldn't even see anything, every direction looked the same
>took me so long to find the path again that I ended up coming home in the dark
2/10 didn't enjoy it
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>>2674741
Fog and snow on the moors is a spooky combination, I've had to follow GPS before along a route I was completely familiar with.
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It makes me so sad that UK-frens get to have civilized discussions with lots of pictures but if you tried to have this same thing but with east-of-the-mississippi-specific US hiking, it would get derailed by shitposting and people posting about their west coast hiking
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>>2674809
Without GPS I think I would be dead right now.
But even so, attempting to get back to the path with GPS didn't work well, I found myself crossing streams and snow-covered bogs a lot. Everything just looked white but when you put a foot down it's a 50/50 chance of solid ground or knee-deep in a hole with ice which cracks.
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>>2674809
>>2675048
Also yeah, I was familiar with the route, I have walked it multiple times before. The big difference is the snow completely masking the visibility of the path, combined with the fog reducing visibility so I couldn't see anything.

In summer, or even in winter but without the fog, this would have been 0% danger and no problem.

pic related was when I saw a footpath sign in the distance, one of my thrilling moments of redemption before getting lost again

I might do some proper winter skills / mountaineering courses now, because I wasn't taking it seriously before and yesterday was a ridiculous experience. Though I'm not sure how traditional map and compass skills would have helped, I was saved by smartphones and GPS.
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>>2675051
There's not really anything you can do in those conditions other than just be equipped to wade through snow covered bogs while following GPS or a compass bearing.
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>>2675048
>dead

Why didnt you just fucking stop and chill out then instead of blundering around like a retard
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>>2668312
>hard mode: post actual photos from your outings
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>>2675204
Snowdonia last weekend.
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Here's one I took in August as a counter to all the bleak scenes of snow, ice and dead grass.
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>>2674810
be an honorary Brit

>>2675206
>we're just going /out/ and may be some time...
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>>2675205
You get any ewes?
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>>2675284
kek
Paul Merton would be proud of that one
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>>2675205
doesn't your water straw freeze at those temps? mine does
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>>2675153
>just stop for a nice relaxing freeze to death
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>>2671885
Is that from a peak next door to Kirk Fell in the Lakes by chance? Went there a couple of years ago for the first time. Lovely spot.
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>>2675252
Do enjoy me some carnyx posting.
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>>2669145
Fake quote
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>>2675846
is it?
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Do fighter jets bot fly around the Mach Loop and the Lakes in Winter?
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>>2675888
not*
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>>2675882
Indeed. They mocked our simplistic agricultural practices, but that was as far as their derision of the Britons went.
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>Toots along your public footpath
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what do you guys do when you are camping? feels like cooking only takes an hour and setting up the tent/bedding another 20 mins
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>>2676453
simple decision tree. if strenuous /out/sports activity the next day go to bed. if not: maximum alcohol
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Never took a good photo of any actual camp itself but winter is such a good time to go out
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>>2676453
drugs
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Where can I drive from South West England for a day or two to see some actual hills or snow over the new year
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>>2674810
Are you the turd burglar that keeps spamming east coast vs west coast threads?
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>>2674344
>is there a reason I shouldn't eat snow?
No anon. There's nothing to worry about. Snow is good for you. Make sure it's been settled for at least 24 hours though.
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>>2676477
In the UK, you mean? Snowdonia? Clue's in the name
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>>2676561
How boggy/remote is it compared to Scotland?
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>>2674810
Imagine how much better this board would be if Americans were range-banned
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>>2676562
I've only been once during summer, but not boggy in my experience (around Snowdon and Betws-y-Coed). If it's cold enough, I'd imagine the ground is likely to be frozen in winter, but I'm sure you can find people with much more experience of the area
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>>2674685
do the extra couple hours of driving and go to scotland. even the low-tier parts of the highlands are in another league to anything in england. especially if you want snow.
arrochar alps are only a 50 minute drive past glasgow. ~3 hour drive from Northumberland.
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>>2676567
>01JAN24: all Americans banned from /out/
>01JAN34: Brits still obsessing over Americans and endlessly posting about them
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>>2676677
It's literally just the Peak District with lochs instead of reservoirs.
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>>2670250
You'll be alright in the summer. I found many drivers are very courteous, motorhomes will pull over to let you through. I did it in 2021 and didn't book ahead a single site. Only 1 was full but got in with a little charisma
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>>2676677
If I was gonna go to the Highlands (I live near Northumberland) then I'd go to the Highlands proper and go to the North coast
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>>2676707
highlands proper is here
north coast is mostly bog land
go cairngorms plateau if you want really mental weather.
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>>2676542
Not sure what your point is but im still here a week later. Had some bastard weather out there today, we got absolutely buttered. Was fucking beaut.
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>>2676765
*battered.
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>>2676745
why would I want mental weather when im trying to see the night sky lol
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>>2676818
lad go to /sci/ if you want to look at the sky
this is /out/
star nerd
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>>2676858
>star nerd
my nanna says it's cool
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>>2676765
Look great. You probably still want to watch yourself eating snow though. E. coli sucks.
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very cool tree
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what's the best aonb in Britain, to me it's probably the north pennines
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>>2677311
Based trig enjoyed
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>>2677311
Clent Hills?
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Did some night cruising this week, it’s pretty chill. I say night, it was fucking half five
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Tempted to hit SDW tonight in a bivvy and tarp.
>inb4 this isn't a bivvy thread

Any Brit/out/ actually going out this winter?
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>>2678881
SDW?
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>>2679362
I'm out. In December. In a tarp and bivvy.

Southdowns way.
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>>2675147
this
On flat bogs in the peak with snow and and fog you can do this stumbling around like retard shit for a long time. (until your ankle breaks lol). A rough compass bearing would help but it's down to finding streams and hope they go mostly down rather than sideways.
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>>2676477
Anon don't go to Snowden over the new year it will be completely zoo'd out. I mean horribly bad.
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What is the Eskdalemiur Forest area like for some overnight camps? Or the entire border region in general? I've been wondering if I can comfortably walk town to town, camping some days and finding places to stay on a whim over the week. Chat up the locals, etc. Was looking at taking the train to Dumfries and then wandering from there and looking at castles etc.
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>>2678562
Chilterns
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>>2678842
Looks comfy as always. I like these long winter nights. Evenings spent snuggling with the dog in front of the log burner after a wet and windy /out/ing are just perfection.
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looking at getting a telescope, any recommendations under £400?
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bivvy bags in scotland, nay or yay?
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>>2679965
aye.
but not when it's wet.
so either height of summer or height of winter (below freezing).
I've done it a few times in summer and biggest issue was midges.
so I'd recommend a bivvy bag with a built in bug net if you can afford it.
personally haven't had issues with condensation but think i got lucky with low moisture/humidity- and i run hot, my excessive body heat dried things.

hoping to try a winter summit bivvy camp soon.
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>>2680132
all it takes is one person to come and roll you off the rock
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>>2680234
fun fact
the people douchie enough to do something like that aren't in good enough shape to get there
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>>2680235
seen plenty of neds up the hills
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>>2679752
Never been, but would quite like to visit the Buddist monastery

>>2679852
not sure, bit your local astronomy FB page would have plenty of suggestions

>>2680243
what, at 7 in the morning?
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>>2668336
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Any idea where to visit in Scotland for snow but also avoiding Scottish people?
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>>2680689
Scotland, PA
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finally at the end of the Llangollen. Got stuck for a couple days due to a downed tree blocking the canal. Cliffs tho!
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>>2679852
For wildlife or astronomy?
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Hehe. Went out last night. Fucken windy.
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>>2679852
the only decent telescope you can get in that range is like a 6in dobson. Might be able to find an 8in but that's a much larger footprint and more difficult to move around. anything else in that price range is either going to have shitty optics, not big enough aperture, or not sturdy enough to be stable while viewing.

if you're talking about for bird watching and stuff then there is a lot more options. that budget with get you a very nice pair of 8x42 binocs or a lower end spotting scope which will work perfect for daylight viewing. if you are wanting something for low light viewing you're probably going to have a little harder time finding something in that price range.
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>>2670250
aye he's a wee jessie, afraid tget wet
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>>2674344
based. the snow may not be fresh, equivalent to drinking still or brackish water or worse depending how old it is.
>>2674671
yes, get mogged, fag.
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>>2681247
fuckin windy, boys
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>>2668312
does anyone know any good camping spots or even camp sites on holyhead?
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>>2679852
The included eypieces will be shit but they'll get you started. Baader make good value good eyepieces. But seriously, there's never anything to look at nowdays don't bother lol

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/ursa-major-telescopes/ursa-major-8-f6-dobsonian.html
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Anyone risking the wind before the new year? Any xmas gear you got?
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Can I please have a qrd on outing in the UK?
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>>2683749
It's cold, wet, dark, miserable.

You'll love it.
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do rivers and lakes ever freeze in Scotland?
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Any Scot bros? Looking to get into /out/ this year and meeting new people
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>>2683849
kek, well said. there's nowhere to hide from the elements here so you need to learn how to deal with them. Nothing quite like getting battered by wind and rain all day then finding a nice pub with a roaring fire going to sit down in and dry off.
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>>2684073
Yeah, I was on the South Downs in storm Babet back in September. Fucking windy then too. Legged it to a place to grab breakfast. I was the only human out there that day. Kind of nice.
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>>2668314
An abominable snobo, finally caught on film.
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>>2683942
yes and in england and wales as well. If you want to safely ice skate in england (not sure about scotlands situation) you can go to somewhere like the fens or the levels where areas get flooded and you can skate on the flooded fields
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Weather has been fucking shite all of December. Need some snow or freezing conditions, not this constant torrential rain and wind.
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>>2684377
Aye it’s fucking shit mate. Goddamn river forming outside my house these past few days
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Happy new year lads. Planning on doing the Chiltern Ridgeway this year. What are you planning?
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I'm planning to do Hadrian's Wall in June, can't wait desu. The kids are growing up and it's the first time I've been able to get away for a multi-day walk.

Ridgeway looks good, I did a circular walk that took in Ivinghoe Beacon in September. Really lovely countryside there and I imagine the real highlights are further west.
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>>2684972
First day that was nice in ages and I wasnt at work. Monday was a belter.
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>>2668312
Planning to go to the North Yorkshire moors once it starts warming up. Going solo, will pick a secluded woodland setting and sit around a fire. I might fast for a few days, read some books I've been sitting on, look for magic mushrooms, maybe some fishing. I just want to be out there on my own in the spring, lots of day light and fresh air. 3-4 nights.
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>>2685886
Speaking of which, anyone got a location? I need somewhere to start, a place with a water source and a dense woodland to make my home for a week or so.
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>>2685887
>>2685886
you won't do shit. go daydream on another board ya fucking spaz.
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How do you dress for Scotland? Do you just expect to fall in a bog every time?
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>>2686041
Dress as you would for England but better wet gear. Use a net if it's midge season.
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Figured id ask here, but whats UK anons opinions on the Crusader cook sets? Im very tempted to get the mk1 cookset and just ditch the plastic cup so I have a fairly small cook kit. Figured id get the mk1 since its also cheaper and is stainless steel.
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>>2685886
>look for magic mushrooms
>in the spring
good luck
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>>2686903
Bit of a meme, but if you like it go for it.
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>>2673623
Use a ground sheet, one that extends into the vestibule of your tenet.
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>>2674372
Is a silicone cover better than a titanium lid? Or did the cup not come with a lid?
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>>2686903
Remember to get and use BCB fire dragon gel fuel. It burns hotter than regular gel fuels.
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Hate having to put boots and waterproofs on to go out, how long till its dry again?
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>>2687775
Thats the plan. But should I get the gel instead of the small or large blocks?
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>>2685886
>once it starts warming up
ngmi
just play another game on your xbox
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>>2688244
this. based winter filters another /in/fag/. I did almost get my feet frozen off last weekend having to slosh through bogs in 1-2C temps though. had to get a jog on to try and get some warmth into my feet again.
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>>2686041
Yes, you will fall in a bog, more than once. Its going to be wet, id say the trail runner meme doesnt apply when you never step foot on a dry surface - you can drain and pump out all the water you like but your next step is back onto a wet surface. Bring boots and runners, wear boots util you get to camp, then take a picture of your trail runners and post here about how boots are a meme. Pic rel
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>>2688438
I had a think after last weekend and the most important thing is to reduce the amount of new cold water being pumped around your foot. I thinking a pair of those sealskin socks in this situation would be best. Goytex boots are a bitch to get dry after they’ve been soaked through.
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>>2688543
would you not put bin bags or bread bags over your feet?
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Going to do the west soiland way again this year I fink inspired by reading comfy hiking travel books. Is there much of a social aspect to it meeting randoms? As a teen I only remember talking to this old American lady who I kept having to apologise to day after day for my dad's atrocious snoring in bunkhouses
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>>2674810
Yet you can't enjoy the thread without bringing it up
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>>2675051
You know what helps in the conditions, those gay little piles of rocks that /out/ kicks over for fun
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>>2688414
Based. Temps are dropping let's get out there lads. I'm thinking of bunking off work for a romp in the snow.
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>>2680235
Someone douchy enough to camp on top of the rock managed to get the so I'd wager someone based enough to push you off would also be fit enough.
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>>2680806
10/10
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>>2681103
For spotting idiots sleeping on precarious for outcrops so I can push them off early in the morning.
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>>2688543
Sealskins are 10/10 even if you're only putting them on at the end of the day to atleast have dry feet in your wet boots.
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>>2668312
What do you guys even do over there when you go /out/
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Another beautiful morning in the salty land of the free.
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>>2688164
You can buy the gel in bulk and can just pour out how much you need.
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>>2683964
Hi mate there's a discord full of us if you're interested in making /out/ friends
https://discord.com/invite/8mecQWq9DV
Just say hello and give a quick introduction to what sort of /out/ you get up to! I'm always on the lookout to meet new people into hiking
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>>2690086
I jus' tried to link up wiv dis crew and dey gave me bare grief, innit. Dey were chattin' shit, cussin' me out, and sayin' I can't roll wiv dem coz in my snaps I wasn't rockin' a PPE even tho I was off work goin' to see my gyals. I was gonna drop a pic of me and my dawg when I was on a mad ting in the alps. he's a Louisian Leopard dog, one year old now and he's the motive for me to get out more. but you man are more snakey than a dead pasty. Now I'm blocked.

Pic of me that got dissed, I'm hidin' my face for safety.
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>>2690086
Not that anon but plz make a thread here if you do a meetup, I'm not installing the big Chinese purple spywear app
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>>2689404
Mostly I think about the downfall of western society and the ongoing genocide of white Europeans.
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Scotland worth visiting for 5 days this month or is it just bog?
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>>2690205
I got /out/ to avoid thinking about that stuff.
Just beautiful nature, traditional English villages, and encountering nobody, or occasionally another white hiker.
Of course, my day is ruined when there are Muslims. It's why I can't do Pendle Hill any more, despite it being an awesome hill. Last time I went there, there was about 8 Muslim men, in white skirts, screaming and shouting, dropping litter. Ruined my whole day.
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>>2668312
I'm gonna do my first winter outing this weekend. Got the three layers of clothing, change of the bottom cotton in case of sweat.
Wind shelter to reduce carrying weight,
might cover the opening for isolation.
Only worry is the lack of daylight - just 8 hours.
What should I do in my dark (candle lit) wind shelter for 10 hours (excluding 8h of sleep)? 1 hour cooking and eating, 30 minutes jumping jacks, reading and scrolling. Sure... only 5 hours left in the cold dark listening to twigs breaking under the paws of hungry wolves etc.
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>>2690259
>scrolling
I hope the wolves eat you
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>>2668314
Damn, I'm mirrin that buggy pack desu. W2C?>>2668314
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>>2690207
Fuck off we're full
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am i stupid for walking through the river to skip a field with horses in?
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>>2690408
No. Horses are demons and are not to be trusted
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>>2668314
AI generated picture
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>>2690408
Yes, you were afraid of a horse's curiosity, which is often fleeting. They have chompers but they are designed for grass and so they aren't too bad, aside from that watch out for the big scary back legs won't you you big girl's blouse hahaha.

>>2690410
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>>2668741
good chap
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>>2690408
mostly yes. horses arent too bad, take a knife to give their nose a poke if they get too curious. Cows on the other hand are no fucking joke. they turn into full on demons if you meet them with your dog at dusk.
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>>2690135
Meets happen regularly, not posting them on this board though.
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>>2690408
yeah. if they're curious enough to come see you, you can just give them a pet on their nose/head and they'll be mostly chill. don't get behind them and you'll be fine, although there's a really nice spot on their back legs that they *love* being scratched on.
t. was a bit spooked by horses but dated a horse girl for a bit
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>>2676087
Well, it's true of me and my friends anyway, you can say what you like
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How does Scarfell Pike compare to Ben Nevis? Nevis I probably wouldn't do again desu, the staircase bit killed me on the way down.
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>>2690562
Awk if I see you I see you, yous been out much in the Winter? I'm waiting for Feb to start thinking of camping again
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>>2690408
>>2690419
>take gf on local walk through fields and shit
>horse is blocking turnstile on other side just standing there looking at us
>I try to be all careful and cautious with it
>she basically just gets on the turnstile and walks into it, it backs up

She was shitting herself later on with gangstalking cows while i was pretending not to be bothered though, so it's alright
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>>2690543
Deer get really funny around dogs too, I've had one doing this aggressive prancing charge at the fence, running in circles and charging with it's feet all in sync which made a thump thump thump. Funny ass, was glad there was a fence between her and the dog.
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>>2690806
They think the dog is going to kill and eat them. Like when a sheep is stuck in a fence, someone tries to help and they flail around. Pretty fucked up really, imagine the stress.
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>>2690408
Depends on the attitude of the horse. Did you try going in the field?
Some horses are chill, they've been around people a lot. They'll look up, realise it's not a problem, and then continue eating grass. In which case, cross the field.

But some horses are fucking mental. I've crossed a field where the horse was a long way away, and it came charging full gallop at me and I ran for the stile and it tried to chomp at my arm, only just made it.
Then it went up on its back legs and waggled its front legs in the air and let out a demonic neigh, I thought it was gonna jump the fence but it was just showing off I think.
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>>2690205
-and how i am currently preventing that by being based.
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>>2690793
>I'm waiting for Feb to start
why? this cool rock i found is there all year round.
drop burner email if you want to meet.
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>>2690782
SP is one 600m staircase followed by a scree field ascent to the summit. Would still do it over the Benn any day.
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>>2684100
Kek
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>>2690411
Woaaaaah! Dude you should, like, be a detective or something.
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Good to get some proper weather again. Didn’t see a single person out there today. Saw 2 negros on Friday so I was in a shitty mood but todays /out/ing has cheered me up a bit.
Seriously wtf are negros doing in the Lake District? Jfc.
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>>2690793
Hey I recognise that, loch ossian, by corrour station, right?
It's funny because we actually had a meet there lol. Including myself we had 5 of us do the circuit of Munro's around there. It was a nice time. We've had much bigger turnouts in the past though

Shame you're adverse to talking on discord though, it sucks but it is a necessary evil. If you use it only in browser rather than the apps you can minimise how poz it is
>>2690975
> this cool rock i found is there all year round
This is a good mindset to have!
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>>2668312
remember, in Bongland, this woman would be considered a solid 5.
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Going to be some mad weather tonight.
Gusts up to 100mph on the higher tops in Scotland.
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>>2691524
Aye the very same, was up last October to visit Staoineag with some mates. River crossing was bloody cold.
>>2690975
That is a nice rock, grats anon. The earliest in the year I've been out was March so I'm easing into the cold weather.
Would be good to meet some /outists but I'll let the stars align on that if they want. OPSEC.
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>>2690135
Holy shit lean to take care of your hair dude. Why can't men take the time and effort to learn personal grooming instead of the frizzy grease pile. Shits fucking vile. Colour is nasty too. Dress your age and buy some non faggot pants.
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>>2684100
Underrated post
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>>2691873
All of this seethe is amplified by how incorrect you really are. Hair is unwashed and untouched for three years, nopoo makes out a lot easier because my hair is used to not being chemically stripped by detergents - would recommend. Trousers are standard combats, had them years and not a rip not a knock - would recommend. I dont really care to defend myself, nopoo and combat trousers speak for themselves.
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>>2691919
Makes sense that you neglected it, it shows
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Perhaps you chaps could help please.

Which area in the UK would you say is realistically best for someone who wants to retreat from the world and become self-sufficient? Grow as much of your own food as possible, generate energy for yourself if you can and be as far away from civilisation as possible?
Welsh valleys seem great for remoteness and cheap land, but you're not growing much or getting much sunlight for solar. Same with the Scottish Highlands. East Anglia sorts food/solar/wind energy but is expensive.
I'm currently in Wiltshire but what was lovely open countryside is now being destroyed for more copy paste new builds and it's becoming awful.
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>>2691971
Greenhouses extend the growing season by about 2 months either side if youre lucky. I know someone doing this kind of thing in Aberdeen. There are already some communities that practise the real kind of sustainability, look into the findhorn foundation for example
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>>2691971
Your only hope is the Highlands really, nobody can be arsed to go there.
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>>2691971
East Yorkshire. People rarely move there, others rarely move out, everyone is your usual English type. Land is cheap-ish, the earth is good, and it is very flat so you see the run rise from one direction and set very decidedly in the other. I enjoy that.
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>>2692005
Sun* not run.
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>>2685362
the best bit of the ridgeway is certainly the western section from goring to avebury. ivinghoe to goring is nice but its chilterns so comparatively built up. i'd recommend the wessex ridgeway over the ridgeway though. its like the best bits of the ridgeway but for the entire route. less travelled too if you like to spend time alone.
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>>2692005
Damn where I live the sun rises in one direction and then it sets in the same place or sometimes just stops in the sky until the next day. You are lucky in East Yorkshire.
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>>2670420
>>2671740
those are 4 of the most welsh looking bastards ive seen
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Went out. Starting to feel like spring out there now. Does anyone have any good recommendations for /out/ings i should do in the coming months? Preferably multi day stuff.
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>>2693839
Looks luvleh
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Lads I've noticed everyone talks about bugs and ticks etc but I've seen a lot of people go camping and don't use bug nets, won't bugs just fuck you up when your sleeping?
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>>2694776
>bugs
>ticks
You need to touch some grass instead of reading advice intended for Americans, while sitting indoors.
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>>2692523
You don't see it as clearly everywhere because the hills block it out, but here you're looking far into the flat horizon so you get a better view of the full cycle. See, I knew you wouldn't understand.
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>>2680806
That bridge is terrifying on a boat I walked back my mate drove. Had a great time though.
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>>2693839
is that the lakes? looks weird seeing english countryside with proper elevation
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>>2694792
>touch some grass
I thought Anon didn't want ticks.
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WE SHALL ALL BE KILLED! Road of death, extreme doom and despair.
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>>2694776
depends where you are. ticks aren't really a problem in the UK. midges and shit can be super bad in parts of scotland, and just a nuisance in england (different types tho I think). mozzies can also be annoying but it depends where you are. Obviously worse near bodies of water, but I've never thought about using a bug net or anything like that.
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>>2695278
Thats what I figured but everytime I've seen people online they all act like you've gotta worry about bugs and ticks and shit, I'm assuming they're just yanks
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>>2690411
No shit.
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>>2694830
It’s great fun, loved doing it. Closed for a few months while they drain and inspect it though. Can’t imagine how rammed it gets in summer
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>>2695520
Jesus, I can't believe that really exists
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>>2695130
Good eye. Yes it’s weird to think I’m still in England with terrain like this. Only here for a few more weeks though unfortunately. I think I’m going to build up a camper van this year though so i can do some outings further from my usual flat midlands home base.
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>>2694776
>>2695504
It's Americans yes. I have been hiking every week for 15 years in the UK and never had a tick, nor know anyone who has.

I've never had a problem with bugs either, but midges can be a problem in Scotland. It could be a a problem if camping near water or bogs. For hiking I have actually never been bitten but yes definitely when camping. But midge bites are just small bug bites which are red and itchy and transmit no diseases and then go away.
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>>2671907
>>2672685
>>2674685
>>2684377
Coming soon to an England near you.
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You can find ticks in the uk. New forest is loaded with them because of all the deer. The only time I’ve been properly bitten by a tick has been over here when I found a baby tick had attached itself to my ballbag. Not fun. They’re over here, but not in anywhere near the numbers found in Europe. Last year in Switzerland I was pulling probably an average 6 a day off my dog, it was madness. I’d recommend getting some otom tick twisters before you get bitten as they are absolute buggers to pull off and you want to get them off asap.
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>>2695520
It was not so bad the tunnel was a long wait we got food and still had time. I love the canal network its so nice I envy you living on a boat.
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>>2696012
Ive had one tick in Arrochar and my pal got one in Mugdock, so you dont have to go very far to find them
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>>2677151
thanks for the free adobe stock image.
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>>2695984
When I was in the US I found a tick on my leg but I had no idea what it was so I just pulled it and flicked it away. Later found out they can be dangerous and you need to pull them off with tweezers.

Hmm oh well. Now I just always wear trousers when going out.
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I'm from London (Press F to pay respects) and I just want to be somewhere no car can be heard and I can just be alone in nature.

Where would be the cheapest place to find such remoteness?
I love the lakes but it is so expensive and I imagine going to Scotland is too. Are there places nearer which are maybe hidden gems? Could getting a cheap flight abroad unironically be cheaper?

Please help ease my suffering
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Saw this cool rock today
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>>2696472
I've literally never used tweezers to remove a tick. I just pinch them really close to the skin and pull. They're unpleasant and they do sometimes cause disease, but they're not nearly as big of a deal as people make them out to be on here.
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>>2696482
There is a particular way of removing them so that the head doesn't detach.
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>>2696475
Depends what you are looking for. You have the North Downs and South Downs nearby surely? Or do you need something more remote or higher or colder?

Britain's pretty wide at the bottom, so I don't know if it would be quicker to get to Dartmoor than the Peak District. Transport links are good to Sheffield with the trains or the M1.

It's only about 1.5 to 2 hours on the train to Chesterfield or Sheffield and then 30 minutes on buses or trains to nearby stations in the peak district. If it's the cost of accommodation that's prohibitive, you can do it as a day trip, you just need to get up early and probably do it when daylight hours are longer.

If you want more remoteness, you will need a car. Remoteness can be found in places in Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Lancashire/Wales, but you need to drive and go to places that other people don't. On the popular routes in summer you will see other hikers occasionally. But it's pretty easy to find places where there is nobody for miles around if you have a car and are willing to hike a long way across tougher ground (I'd argue it's not worth it, if you live in London then any kind of rugged moorland will be amazing and the most popular ones are popular for a reason).
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>>2696480
Look at how rusted those chains are. To think that so much time ago a caring rock owner placed their rock there and carefully chained it to prevent theft.
What happened to them? What lead them to abandon their rock? It's sad, but life must go on.
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>>2690959
>>2690806
>>2690573
Y'all are pussies. The only way to deal with aggressive horses and cows is to assert your dominance by running directly at them with your arms out wide.

First time I experienced this was at one of those massive outdoors parties where 13-15 year old's are getting blackout drunk on vodka in a random bongland field.

A mandem of about 11 horses come charging towards us and some drunk skinny chav lad just walks headfirst with his arms out in a "come ed den" type of pose.

The horses get spooked and stop the charge, and the chav goes running after them all and they all pussy out and go running. We didn't see them again for the whole day/night. Shit was hilarious the guy couldn't have been over 5ft5.

I'm of equally weedy composition but since that day I treated all aggressive horses and cows the same, pussyoles. Used to be my party trick as well.

Ultimately it's a game of chicken and because they aren't predatory or used to things running at them they bug tf out.

The only time I guess it wouldn't work is if it were a stampede where the animals were running away from something much scarier and larger. That or some type of ex-warhorse with ptsd just didn't give a single fuck and would carry on charging.

If you run at them with 100% confidence though, you can mostly see their ferocity wane with quite a lot of distance in between you and them
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>>2668312
I am posting here because I'd figure you know the best, how are the PCS thermal jacket and trousers, would they work as break clothing in the nordics during winter hikes? And how are they size wise? I was a bit confused about the sizes that they have. Some store said that they are large sizes, since they are supposed to be worn on top of your regural clothes but some other people said that their sizes are regural.
I am talking about the PCS Thermal Jacket, Cold Weather, Lightweight and PCS Thermal Trousers, Cold Weather, Lightweight. They seem pretty packable (which always nice) and their colour scheme is good. Single colour and no autistic camo of any kind. Someone could possibly mistake them for some camping store bought thermal layer.
Pic related, the set that I am talking about.
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>>2697147
Can't talk about trousers because I've never been issued them, but the PCS/softee/buffalo jacket is a pretty good piece of kit for the proper cold weather.

I'd say it fits on the snugger end (I'm a UK large, and I got issued a large), makes sense as it's not intended to be an outer-layer due to no wind or water proofing. I don't think it's a large size as such, rather an accommodating one that fits well over a base layer or something a bit thicker like a fleece.

They can theoretically pack quite small, but it's obviously going to try to expand out and fill up with air unless you compress it and secure it down well. For my current role it's actually way too warm, so I never take them out in the field, but have used it for a particular Scottish winter where there was no heating or hot water in barracks and I've used it a few times on civvy walks and trips.

It's comfy, it's quite practical, but it shines when you are having to stand around a lot in the cold. For a reasonable price I'd say it's worth your time.
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>>2697162
>It fits on the snugger end
Are you talking about the PCS Thermal Jacket or the PCS Thermal Smock? Since you mentioned the word "buffalo" and on the milsurp store websites I only see the PCS Thermal Smock referred to with the word "buffalo".
Pic rel is the Thermal Smock, which is said to be on the smaller side in some milsurp store descriptions as well.
I am a tad confused of the reviews on these, some people claim the whole PCS Thermal system to be very small in size and some say that they are huge. I myself am 191cm tall, wear size XL jackets and have jean size W38/L32. (I'm a fatso) so I am not completely sure on what size to order. Either XL or XXL.
Anyways, I could get myself the PCS thermal jacket and PCS thermal trousers for 95€, wouldn't that be a decent price? Too bad the store isn't in my country so changing sizes would be unreasonably tedious.
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>>2697060
I'm not normally drinking large amounts of alcohol on a hike.
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>>2697190
The PCS Thermal Jacket - yeah I think the buffalo technically refers to the smock, but squaddies rarely get so pedantic about it. Most people at my current unit call it a softee but even that technically refers to the older model I think.

But that's not the point, I think with the PCS Thermal Jacket you should go for an XL. I'm 187cm and jean size W36/34, but most of my fat is lower body.
All things considered the €95 seems pretty good for the trousers and jacket, and I'd say go for xl.
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>>2687717
>Is a silicone cover better than a titanium lid?
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When does spring start in the highlands? I've wanted to visit a bothy but every time I've tried the paths are either knee-deep mud or ice
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>>2697558
>When does spring start in the highlands?

Whenever it feels like it.
Realistically early/mid-March is when you're getting consistently higher temps and the daylight hours actually feel long enough to call a day.
You probably won't see any vegetation regrowth until mid/late April. Or at least that's true in my little corner.
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Got chased by a sheep lads
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>>2698509
just the one?
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>>2698509
Did you lay her in the end?
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Has anyone here tried the Vango Apex Geo? It looks pretty solid and its rated for shit weather but I don't want to spend £300 on a tent if I don't have to. Me wants me half decent head room and me storm proof tent,simple as
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>>2697558
>knee-deep mud or ice
>letting either of these stop you.
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>>2697060
>Y'all
>pussyoles
>reddit spacing
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>>2696475
>Where would be the cheapest place to find such remoteness?
>lakes but it is so expensive
>Scotland is too
do you mean the trains? because you know, it's totally free to go outside.
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>>2691873
>Why can't men
>dude
>holy shit
>grooming
american female opinion detected. opinion rejected.
>>2690135
your hair looks fine.
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>>2698685
haha used to love that weather, frostbite and trench foot put me off it big time
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>>2698697
>american female
Americans don't spell colour that way
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How's the Cloud Up 1 for our weather? I want to get a lightweight 1 person tent for spring/summer/autumn camping, and I want it to be able to fare well in heavy rain (because I love the sound).

Good buy or are amazon reviews as shit as ever?
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going winter camping with the boys for about a week
gonna be so fun
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>>2698838
lots of brojobs
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>>2698712
oh god even worse, it's an americanized englishman.
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>>2699026
they said pants instead of trousers, I never hear anybody do this in the uk
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>>2699026
even worse than that.... could be a canadian.

Went for a wee little cruise today now the stoppages have cleared up on the Llangollen. Pretty good weather, too
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>>2699608
Comfy. Starting to feel like spring out there now with the warmer weather, lighter skys and the flowers coming out. I’m desperately trying to sort out buying a van to convert for this summer.
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>>2670269
i camped pentland hills in autum last year
LOVED it, even my massive logisticaal and navagation fuck ups
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Favourite hike in the peaks lads? Want to take my gf up there in spring, she's not the most experienced hiker but very keen
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Was umming and ahhing about going zero drop with my next pair of hiking boots but really impressed with these. All the traditional ones I tried on just felt like they were suffocating my feet
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>>2696885
I just got a return train from Chesterfield to King's Cross and it was 80 odd quid. Trains are a joke in this country
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>>2698721
I know this is probably no help at all but I've got a Cloud Peak 2 and it's top shelf, can't recommend it enough. The based chinks even underdeclared the value on the customs form so I didn't get hit with any duty
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>>2699608
Good lad. How tough is it to pilot one of these bastards? Would love to spend some time on one but I'm 6'6 and I don't think I'd fit

>>2700378
BEAUTIFUL dog
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>>2700390
She’s such a good grrl :3

>>2700386
Based. I hadn’t looked back since switching to barefoot shoes. Pretty fucked off I had to spend decades with my feet squished into normal shoes before realising it’s possible to have shoes that fit properly. Also barefoot running style is so much better than running on your heels. The relative lack of choice is annoying though.
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>>2700390
Easy as fuck mate. If you hire one they’ll likely give you a 20 minute or so rundown on how they work, mostly focusing on how to do locks without sinking the boat, then you’re good to go. They’re tubes of steel roughly 10mm thick so plenty prepared for hard contact. In terms of height, if you’re looking to hire, Black Prince boats are reasonably well known for both their quality and head space. I’m a gnats cock over 6’ and I can stand in our boat (which is an ex black prince hire boat) with a few inches above me. Might still be pretty tight for you though, not gonna lie
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>>2700390
>>2700488
This anon is right I'm retarded when it comes to driving and I got it figured quickly you may want more than one person to do the locks on ur first time but you can get by just use your brain if you are on here it's a fifty fifty shot you have one.
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Watching youtubers from the England it seems that the English outdoors are…plain. Barren even.
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Anyone going to the mass trespass on Dartmoor on Sat?

>>2700409
I'm getting back into my running but haven't switched over to barefoot for that yet. I'm focussing on getting mid-foot striking down in my 'running shoes' first and then I think I'll transition over once I can do a comfortable 5k. I've got some Vivo Primus lites for the gym and love them.

>>2700488
>>2700666
>Black Prince
I'm certain I saw some of those when I was in Bradford on Avon last year, not sure why the name stuck in my head. That's good to know though thanks, I'll check them out. I'm used to not really fitting in many places though. I'm London based
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>>2700673
Comparatively, if you want to say that, being kind enough to assume this isn't either bait or belligerence.
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Got out camping for the first time this year over the weekend. My friend made a napoli and I brought sosij for a ragu. Had worse meals at home
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>>2700976
It's obvious bait. What other purpose is there of saying something dumb like that in a thread about going outdoors in England.
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>>2700385
So she's keen eh? not very experienced but your gf is keen? Very keen?
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>>2701017
Looks alright.
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>>2675205

What is nice about going there in during winter?
It was real great last summer. Ticks in every clump of grass though. Never found so many ticks on me.

>>2676582
>but not boggy in my experience
Dude, there are swamps right on top of some of the hills there. Right on top, 800m above sea level. We don´t have that here in germany. Down in the valleys, they are quite common too.
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>>2701017
>the mixing stick
based and /out/pilled.
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>>2699608
I went to Llangollen last year, nice place, 6miles walk down the canal and up the valley walls, back down and up to the castle.
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>>2701997
v nice
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>>2701103
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>>2700385
I assume you mean the Peak District, if so i very easy hike and to get to is Milldale walk, parking at dovedale. Go through a valley (optional hill climbs as well) along a river, stepping stones to cross and a little village at the end with shop for getting a an ice scream or a cup of tea, busy at the weekends.
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Well, yet more retardation from the government. This time they want to ban unlicensed crossbows and broadheads.
https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/controls-on-crossbows/controls-on-the-use-of-crossbows-on-public-safety-grounds-accessible
Consultations at the bottom of the page, if your interested.
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Mad how the brit generals are always the comfiest on every board
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>>2702031
thanks mate
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Did a short walk of the Ashridge/Ivinghoe Beacon Circular with a friend to recover her strength after an injury. I need to walk at this time of year more, it's muddy but quiet.
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>>2703498
v nice mate
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>>2702397
>ban unlicensed crossbows and broadheads
It was bound to happen eventually, can't have any fun in this country. Time to stock up!



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