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#500- “Hotdog > Watermark” Edition

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>>2705388

janny pls…

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>>2710858
Alright florida bro, I gonna go visit family in Florida in about a week. I plan to bring my reel + some tackle and just buy a rod and 1 week fishing license to do some fishing in Florida. I will be staying around near this area. I'm from the west coast so I have plenty of salt water tackle. I want to do a bit of chill salt water fishing from shore. I'm fairly experienced and comfortable with fishing
Any tips on a good spot to go to, what area is off limit. What would be good tackle and species to target around this time of the year???. I prefer surf/shore fishing over pier because pier is typically too crowded for my taste. I might even rent out a fishing kayak if you can suggest me a good rental and launch place in the area as I did plenty of Kayak fishing myself in the west coast as well.
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>>2710871
I gonna be around the Tampa bay area, pic related
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What's the most ghetto fly you ever saw someone get a fish on?
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Had a really good day on the water yesterday, the bluegill are sucking down hooks about as quickly as I can get them out there right now. Only downside to the day was the loudest family of niggers I've ever been around but I don't know if even caught a single fish. Maybe I'm petty for getting a kick out of that but I couldn't stand them. The gills fried up really nice, 10/10 table fish.
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>>2710894
Nah they got what they deserved.
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>>2710858
Repost
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Also I hate people
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>>2710894
how do you even get the meat off a fish that small
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>>2711016
Pan dressing
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>>2711012
What even happened here?
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>>2711026
Ignorance.
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>>2710871
>>2710874
Go skyway pier first since they have full 24/7 access and 24/7 bait shops with live (usually) and frozen bait. They have rentals too but the rods/reels are pretty awful. No fishing license needed, but roughly $10 total for toll ($1.75 each time without sunpass) and pier pass ($8 + tax for since car + single adult, valid for 24 hours)
https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/skyway-fishing-pier-state-park
Otherwise, you're close enough that you should go on a charter for a half/full day trip at least once.
A bit more expensive, but I can almost guarantee you won't get skunked, as long as you don't mind grunts for dinner.
https://www.hubbardsmarina.com/deep-sea-fishing-trips/
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decent deal if you're looking for rods/reels that are new/rarely go on sale and if you have some old beater equipment you were meaning to get rid of.
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>>2710871
>>2711032
Also, just want to add there's absolutely no way in hell skyway pier south will be too crowded due to how long it is (10+ to drive to the end). The north pier can get crowded at the end but that pier is also much shorter. The only thing you need to worry about with pier fishing is snags due to tons of pilings off the piers.
https://skywaypiers.proboards.com/post/35539
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>>2711016
I cut the heads off and fry them whole when their about that size, the meat peels right off the bone. It's surprisingly easy.
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>>2711046
I'm assuming you take the guts out first, right?
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>>2711050
They add flavor.
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seems like there's a much bigger difference between zaion and zaion-v than daiwa would lead you to believe
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>>2711052
>partially digested stomach contents and literal, actual pieces of shit add flavor
I can understand leaving in the edible organs like the liver (though I personally don't like organ meat) but at least remove the digestive system.
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I'm the guy who asked about fly fishing pricing. I bought the waders and boots today for just under $500. I think this will be a very comfortable setup. I got them both for 20% off, and the boots were inadvertently $30 cheaper according to the salesman and my Google search, so I'm feeling really good. The weather is kind of shit for the next few days, but I will get in the water as soon as possible. I also got a Daiwa Presso 4 piece UL pack rod on the discount, which they did not have in-stock. I'll have to go back tomorrow to get some bass and trout lures. My only problem now is whether I get the fly rod. It looks like it could be fun, but it's expensive. I have the money, but I don't want to spend like a dumbass.
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>>2710052
Anyone know the answer to this? Cutting through the bottom of the fish just before the hindmost gill generally means cutting the aorta before the heart, right?
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>>2711091
>>2710052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deQcANDgyto
I just watched this video where they talked about cutting through the flesh behind the gills. Why did he do it that way?
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>>2711012
>>2711029
comon elaborate, they took the eggs? is that fish protected or something? did they just want to recover their lure?
That's a weird cut, looks made with a sharp tool, not the job of a predatory animal.
I'm curious now.
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I need to buy more boxes, overcrowding is getting out of hand
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>>2711050
Once you remove the heads, guts, and make for a really good meal. Just dip them in the breading of your choice and throw them in the oil. Some people like to filet bluegill to make nuggets but I think you lose a lot of the meat, and the work to gains ratio just isn't worth it.
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>>2711116
*Heads, guts, and scales
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>>2711112
got a perfect box for 1.5euro and my local Tedi
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>>2711112
Couldn't imagine having that many lures.
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>>2711170
That's barely anything
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>>2710858
guys i still dont have an asian fishing gf, what do?
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>>2711070
Shit your one side rrf of waders costs more than both of mine.
Find a local fly shop and see if they sell a 6 weight echo lift kit, otherwise order it online. While you're there get an assortment of nymphs and streamers, a fly box, 7.5 foot 2x leaders, a spool of 2x, 3x, and 4x tippett, some strike indicators, some itty bitty split shot, and if you're feeling exotic and they have it I really like scientific anglers sonar leaders as a quick way to add a sink tip to a regular fly line. Bass, trout, panfish, smaller carp, and just about any other fish under 5 pounds will be on the table. That's not to say you couldnt bring in a 10 pound fish on a 6 weight but youd wish you had an 8 weight or more the whole time, and you might wind up playing the fish to death. Some people say a 6 is too heavy but that weight makes casting streamers and bobbers easier and a 4 inch bluegill will still bend it. I would compare it to a light power spinning rod. 4 and 5 weights are firmly ultralight, and an 8 is a medium light to medium spinning.
>>2711102
Muskies are not protected in ohio, but it was 100% a person that did that, with a knife. Maybe they wanted eggs, but that's a really shitty way to get em out, and then to abandon the corpse on land. . .
I'd tell you more about what happened but all I know is some time ago some mongoloid gutted that fish because of ??? And dumped the corpse in the rocks.
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>>2711175
Buy one, they're cheap
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>>2711188
theyre a package deal, marry a jungle woman from SEA and you will be expected to financially support her family back home
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Joe Biden the type of guy to ask if he can kiss your fish that you caught, and do it anyways after you say no(with tongue action.)
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>>2711171
Try two.
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Do these even work?
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how do I deal with annoying fly fishing boomers who make snippy comments about me taking all the fish with my spinning reel?
I've also had one tell me I should put back a fish that I was going to keep (because it was a "great sporting fish"). I kept it anyway of course because it's legal to do so and I wanted to eat it, which resulted in a dirty look from the catch and release boomer who undoubtedly wanted to take a picture with it on his flip phone.
I should have the legal right to knock out any boomer who presumes to talk to me.
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>>2710858
why do you always pick the ugliest trashiest bitches imaginable when you make new threads?
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>>2711343
Because he's retarded.
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>>2711342
Break his rod and stab the sharp end into his eye.
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>>2711341
The ozark trail ones do.
The ready2fish ones don't spin so good without some adjustment. Roosters and mepps are better but these are worth the buck. Can be finicky though.
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>>2711343
>>2711346
those are beatiful fit woman
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>>2711348
>The ready2fish ones don't spin so good without some adjustment.
What kind of adjustments?
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>>2711342
>>2711352
I bent the blade until it spun correctly.
Just small adjustments until it stopped hanging up on itself.
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>>2711351
I have been following these threads for over a year now and all I see is some redneck, trump orange tanned, tattooed, deformed and crack or alcohol addicted looking whores which I bet some fat hillbilly cousin masturbated to.

I rather see some fish on the cover GOD DAMN son this is embarrassing. You fucking americans and your mutt culture just can't help yourself but post garbage like this because muh freedoms or some dumb shit. You like fishing? Post a lake you inbred fuck.
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>>2711354
Aight that makes sense.
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>>2711358
Not all Americans are as retarded as OP. Also dude lol you can't be a mutt and inbred. But yeah it looks like a trashy whore, probably uses meth.
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>>2711351
Muscles don't belong on women.
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>been warming up recently, want to get my first fish of 2024
>cold front comes in
>below freezing temps during the day
I'm about ready to shoot holes in the ozone layer with a gun, can it be warmer (AKA easy mode) for bass, catfish, and bluegill again?
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>>2711375
Same thing happened to me. God I hate the cold.
Putting holes in the ozone layer wouldn't actually make it warmer though, it would just allow more UV light to reach the surface and give you skin cancer. If you want to increase the temperature you need to pump gasses like methane into the atmosphere.
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>>2711378
I'm gonna start shitting my pants like there's no tomorrow
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>>2711382
That releases sulphur though. Sulphur acts as the opposite of a greenhouse gas and actually cools the planet due to it forming particulates in the atmosphere that block sunlight. It might not be as effective as you're hoping.
What you should really do is leave your gas stove on without lighting it. This will release lots of methane.
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>>2711368
Ok Lord Beauchamp.
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>of course I like bass fishing, how could you tell?
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>>2711375
Put the barrel in your mouth first.
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>>2711393
>this is the world's least cucked flyfisherman
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I'm thinking about trying some new lakes and rivers around me but don't know what's in them. I'm thinking a drop shot rig with some frozen raw shrimp and/or hotdogs sitting a couple feet above the weight for a couple hours at a time should tell me if they're worthwhile spots to go to, but curious if anyone has better ways?
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>>2711470
John, John the pipe, THE PIPE JOHN
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh9oLs67Cw
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>>2711470
Carolina rig, worm float, and crawlers.
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How cold is too cold to fish? My niece wants to go fishing with me tomorrow, and I don't want her to get skunked and discouraged. Will the bluegill still bite if the water temp is in the 40s?
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>>2711529
They bite under ice, so they will always bite. Definitely not as voraciously. Warm is better for kids anyways. I've had a very hard time making it fun and comfortable for my son to ice fish, I don't get much time to fish myself let alone times to fish with him when it's perfect conditions. I think it's still worth the try though
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>>2711175
get an engineering degree and be white.
thats what i did
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Anyone have experience with Jon boats? Been 8-9 years since I've had my 14 footer out there. Need a new trolling motor was wondering if this is an alright one. My niece and newphew are approching double digit age so id like to get them out on a boat fishing like we grew up. Balling on a budget here. I've forgotten a lot about this stuff over the years.

36'' 50lb thrust $259
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>>2711587
is that the basic endura? if so they're good. I had the 40lb thrust on a 10ft and loaded down it would do 3.5mph.
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>>2711587
also here is a sale
> https://www.academy.com/p/minn-kota%C2%AE-endura-c2-50-freshwater-transom-mount-trolling-motor
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>>2711594
I don't have Academy here sadly. Wonder if my store would price match but probably not since we have no Academy here.
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>>2711587
Found one at Durhams for $15 cheaper. Going tomorrow to pick up the trolling motor and battery. Now just need a used outboard since the 20HP Mercury I have is too big for my boat.
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>>2711684
Cabelas has a 9.9 two stroke for $2,500
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Does anything Creme make work?
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>>2711187
I didn't buy a rod today. The manager and I talked for too long, and closing time came around. I think I will buy the Echo Lift as you recommend. The other rod I was considering is the Maxxon Passage, which, I'm told has the benefit of a better warranty and packs smaller. The manager is recommending that I get a 4WT. He says it won't handle steelhead, but I'd have to travel a long way for that anyway. They had some flies there, but he says to wait because they will put a bunch out soon and that he will help me build a kit. I've never fished an ultra-light, so I'm nervous, but I am optimistic. How do you feel about the Lift's single reel seat anchor rather than having a double? Is the Lift case easy to secure to a backpack, especially if I'm also carrying a spinning pack rod (Daiwa Presso)?
>Shit your one side rrf of waders costs more than both of mine.
I don't understand. Just to let you know what I got, it's the Simm's Freestone waders and the Flyweight boot. I really liked trying them on in the shop. I want to give them a real test ASAP, which might be Monday.
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>>2711797
Captcha
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>>2711784
the micro crankbaits are great. don't buy the minnows though, every single oneI've bought had the bill fall off, they were basically pressed in crooked with no glue. creme has abhorrent quality control, so try to inspect them before you buy them. most of the crankbaits had to be tuned via slightly bending the eye or they would swim crooked, but that's an easy fix. I've consistently caught 3-4lb largemouth on them in the spring/summer. panfish like them too but I would recommend switching to a single hook or cutting off at least one of the bends on the treble if you plan to use them for panfish, otherwise you will have problems unhooking most fish since they will get hook in the top and bottom lip effectively seing their mouth shut. can be a bitch to unhook them like that and not really ethical for catch and release..
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>>2711802
I've seen the little water drop shaped ones around. Might get one to try it out. Thanks for the info.
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>>2711802
The 3 chunky guys in the middle are my favorite babby cranks. I got them at some fishing show when I was like 12, so I’m sure they’re long since discontinued, but I have never seen any small crank that works as well.

Slightly larger, but still small and got a lot of big bass, was those Sebile Flatt Shads, I think the smaller size worked better. They’re heavy for their size so you can launch them on a UL, and they worked awesome for me.
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>>2711942
>>2711802
The Sebiles
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>>2711784
>does one of the best lure companies ever make anything that works
i don't fucking know
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>>2711960
Just because it's old does not make it the best.
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>>2711963
read it again faggot
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>>2711960
Hasn't been good for over three decades. They are cheap as they are for a reason.
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>>2711971
buy overpriced gookshit
somehow fish know
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>>2711980
>buy overpriced gookshit
Sorry but Berkley is just better, Mustad, Leland, Acme, and Moondog too.
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>>2711967
Bend over for another fucking, faggot.
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>>2711967
>>2712025
Orgy time!
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>>2711985
>berkley
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>>2711483
are you saying a carolina rig with a small float right above the hook?
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It's real dink posting hours
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>>2712070
Yeah, one of the foam "beads" like on the Linde floating snell rigs. put it between your lower weight stop/swivel and your hook. It'll keep your bait a little bit off the bottom in flowing water. They might float you bait too hard in still water.
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>>2712100
I don't hate the idea but not the biggest fan of all the terminal tackle required. I think I'll try it out some time though, seems like it'd cover more horizontal area than a drop shot could
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this greedy ass little fish had to eat both my flies as I was releasing a different fish
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>>2712064
You need to be beaten with a lead pipe.
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>go to fishing spot
>boomers are there
>they have a dog
>it will NOT fucking stop barking
>this goes on for at least 30 minutes
>start playing loud, violent rap music on my phone to try and drown out the undisciplined mutt and annoy its retarded owners
>can hear boomers bitching to each other about the music, likely being deliberately loud enough that I can hear them
>the dog is still barking
>turn it up more
fucking boomers never learn. don't bitch about music scaring away the fish if you have a giant dog constantly making loud noises right next to the fucking water
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>>2712190
Can't wait till they die off.
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>>2712116
I keep a section of pipe insulation with premade snells for this reason. Sometimes you want weightless, sometimes you want a float, sometimes beads, etc etc.
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>be fishing at my favorite hole with some bros and my dog
>suddenly a rank smell permeates the air
>the most prehistoric gorilla nigger imaginable appears
>hear him yell some unintelligible ooga booga garbage
>dog gets in between us, hackles raised
>keeps barking at this missing link
>he's rigging up his walmart spinning rod
>Lord have mercy, the things he did with that powerbait
>eventually he pulls out a bluetooth speaker and starts playing coon tunes of the blackest variety
>all the while dog keeps barking, trying to deter this jigaboo
>he doesn't get the message
>eventually pack up and leave
I swear this place has gone downhiill ever since they opened up a bus route here
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>>2712197
Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking a pool noodle, then just rip sections off and thread the hook through them as needed since it's cheap and can make whatever size works best. Appreciate the responses, one more question, any preferred hooks? I sometimes use circle and sometimes use EWG or J, just depends on how closely I'm watching my rod
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>>2712202
based 'groid. if you can't stop your dog from barking, don't take it places. especially not to places where people go expecting some peace and quiet.
the last fucking thing i want to hear when I'm fishing is "WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF" over and over again for fucking hours.
people need to learn to control their dogs. if they can't then they shouldn't be surprised when someone tosses an antifreeze steak into their backyard.
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>>2712202
Dog is honorary nigger, you too.
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>>2712202
I know you're mad about the black dude but I just want to let you know that dragging along your heckin wholesome adventure pupper is about 75% as annoying as blasting mumble rap out of a bluetooth speaker.
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>>2712225
It's 150% as annoying as mumble rap. At least music is easy enough to tune out as background noise. It's nearly impossible to ignore "WOOF. WOOF. WOOF. WOOF... WOOF... WOOF WOOF... WOOF. WOOF" since it's random and has no rhythm or pattern to it.
Especially if it's a large dog, since then the sound will be even louder and more forceful. Barking also carries farther than music (unless the guy has a straight up ghetto blaster with him).
And music, depending on what music it is (not mumble rap, country, or spic shit), can actually sound pleasant. A barking dog is NEVER pleasant to listen to.
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> be fishing at my favorite hole. it's techincally public but looks private since it's wooded.
> notice empty worm containers and corona bottles everywhere.
> go to Lowe's and buy a bunch of stakes, flags, a chain, and private property tresspassers will be shot sign.
> Install them and go back to fishing.
> install them around the area
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>>2712227
>corona bottles
Why are beerchuggers always the biggest pieces of trash? It's bad enough that they can't handle a real man's drink (hard liquor), but they have to go and be sacks of shit like this on top of it.
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I finally bought my fly rod (Lift kit). Now, I'm thinking about flies. This year, there will be a lot of cicadas. If my local fly shop isn't going to be carrying a lot of patterns, what online store should I buy from? Furthermore, what's a good fly atlas? John Kreft / River Keeper Flies looks pretty good.
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>>2712229
Litterbugs can't afford hard liquor that doesn't taste like rubbing alcohol. Litterbugs who can tolerate that taste are probably alcoholics who aren't going to go very far /out/.
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>>2712231
>Litterbugs can't afford hard liquor that doesn't taste like rubbing alcohol
Presumably they can't afford a bottle of coca cola or orange juice to mix it with, either. That's what I do with my vodka. Used to just chase it but nowadays doing shots just instantly makes my stomach feel like it's been stabbed from the inside.
>Litterbugs who can tolerate that taste are probably alcoholics who aren't going to go very far /out/.
Fair point.
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>>2712234
Sounds tasty, what sorority are you in?
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>>2712209
I use circle or modified circle hooks (octopus/Walleye wide gap/etc) for basically anything that doesn’t have a very small mouth. I only use J hooks when bobber fishing for bluegills or similar.
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Got an 8wt flyrod outfit and I'm excited to go after bass and carp with it. Any suggestions for carp flies or advice in general for fishing them? Seen 'em jump a lot in the ponds around me, one pond gets really clear in the spring/early summer and I've seem troops of 'em cruising. Always wanted to try and hook one. So far got a bunny leech and a some wooly buggers.
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>>2712269
I don't know what flies carp like, although I'd like to learn too. What I can say, and you probably already know, is that streamer is way too big for carp. I plan on sight fishing surfacing carp with dry flies. If they're not at the top, I'd rather use my catfish/carp baitfishing setup.
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I spent so much time getting stuff to target Lepomis that I honestly could use stuff to get bass and other fish.
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>>2712230
I tie a cicada pattern if youd wanna buy some, and I'd gladly tie you other patterns.
Otherwise reds flies is a place I've heard of being decent.
>>2712269
Carp are hard on fly, you need to find one that's actively feeding and put a fly on its nose without spooking it. Bass are easy, just strip streamers around cover and structure.
Also you need flies that ride hook point up for carp so you don't immediately snag bottom. I worked out a foxy clouser variant that I call a backwards bug that seems to work well.
>>2712319
Nah that fly is fine for carp.
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I have yet to get a curly tail to catch anything. I'm skeptical that they even work.
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>>2710858
was fishing salmon trout with my buddy with spoons, they followed them but in the last second they always made an 90 degree turn and swam away. We tried every color but they never bit. What could be the reason? They bit on our gummy fish though.
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I was on a 3.5 month no skunk streak and 2 weeks ago I broke it. Then the week after skunked again. Quite disappointed, one of my goals is to go 6 months straight.

Anyway, today I made up for it. Caught 5 smallies for 20.7 pounds total bag.
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>>2712680
Catch drinks if you don't want to be skunked.
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I'm going to get myself a nice rod and reel this spring to replace my Canadian Tire garbage rod. Going to be exclusively freshwater bank/shore fishing since I have no boat and saltwater is a thousand kilometers away. Mostly gonna fish on rivers but sometimes on lakes too when I get the chance. I'll be mainly targeting pike, walleye, channel catfish, and maybe yellow perch.
I've done a bit of research and I'm thinking 6'6" length, moderate action, medium weight. I only have the budget (no more than $200 Canadian, though I'd prefer to stick around $150 or less because I'd like to be able to afford some line and a few lures too) for one rod and reel at the moment so I'd like it to be as versatile as possible. Do those sound like decent specifications? I'm still rather new to this.
Also should I go with fiberglass or graphite? Durability is pretty important because I'm a poorfag and can't necessarily afford to replace the rod (or the reel) anytime soon. Similarly I think it's gonna have to at least be a two piece, because getting a long one piece rod in and out of a car is a pain in the ass and I've almost broken a cheap one while doing that in the past.
>>2712680
Did they taste good?
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>>2712711
aside from coming across something much more expensive on sale and getting a steal, I'd probably go with a Daiwa AIRX662MFS in your case. I've never used the 2-piece models, but have a casting and spinning 1-piece version. for the price they're pretty hard to beat. decent sensitivity thanks to the exposed reelseat, durable, lightweight, and even good aesthetics. they're listed as fast action but they're more of a moderate-fast versatile rod. for reel you could get a Penn Pursuit IV 2500. they aren't Shimano/Daiwa smooth or lightweight, but for the pricepoint they are way more beefy build wise than anything else. people use them as beater saltwater reels. they have sealed bearings, a thick bail, and good drag. that's like $100 usd before tax for something that won't shit the bed even after years of use. like I stated before, you could also luck out on a sale and get some really nice stuff for the same price, but you kind of have to know what you're looking for and the nuances of rods/reels, which only comes with experience. that's how I mainly buy my gear, but I've wasted a lot of money in the past and sold rods I didn't want anymore before getting to where I'ma t now. The one thing I can advise you for sure is to not blow whatever you have left on a bunch of tackle. just save it. it's too easy to CONSOOM with fishing shit and you won't end up even using most of it.
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I went fishing in my new waders today, and I had a good time. I didn't catch much fish because I was mostly walking around. I caught a hornyhead chub for the first time.
My reason for posting tonight is because there is some dirt on my waders. I noticed it when wading and couldn't remove it with my finger. I washed my waders with a hose after I got home, and that didn't help. I tried wiping it off with a damp shop towel for a minute or so, and that was slightly effective or not effective at all. I didn't sit down, kneel, or roll around in the mud. What's the deal here? I want to keep my waders clean. I think I might contact Simms.
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>>2712319
https://youtu.be/fjuFtRd3FiU?si=d-dG3ZPXnxHiEINs
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Flyfags are just the worst.
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>>2712745
Pretty sure that just happens. Try hand soap? I wouldn't worry about it personally though.
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>>2710858
Going to try my hand at handline fishing. Was looking for something stupidly portable (ideally no bigger than fanny pack size) that I can just drag around everywhere comfortably. Got all the tackle already, but I'm torn on rigs.

Ideally I'd like to fish just with a bobber and a worm, keeping it simple - but that seems a pain to cast any decent distance. A free-sliding weight with a bit of cork to keep my bait above the bottom also looks tempting, but I'm worried about missing bites with that much slack on the line. Thoughts/recommendations?
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>>2712680
why do catch and release bass fishermen need to weigh and measure every single fish. Also, boga grips are gay. They encourage holding fish in ways that can damage and kill fish.
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the guy who kills and eats every fish he catches asks why catch & release fisherman potentially harm fish. kek. anyways... most catch & release fish deaths are related to tournament fishing where fish are put in livewells. bass are extremely hardy otherwise. it's the stress from being put in poorly temperature and oxygen regulated tin cans that kill them.
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>>2712904
Ignore that guy, he has some autistic hatred toward bass fishing/sport fishing for some reason and go on some schizo rant in every aspect about it from C&R practice to lure usage. He just circlejerk himself in this general all the time.
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>>2712907
plenty of bass fishermen are dumb and don't really care about maiming fish, but you can c&r pretty easily with a very low rate of harm/mortality. only a few species are fragile.
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>>2712907
Bass bitches are dumb sometimes though.
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>>2712904
>the guy who kills and eats every fish he catches asks why catch & release fisherman potentially harm fish
NTA but the difference is that one person is actually getting some use out of the dead fish. The other person is killing the fish just so they can brag to their beerchugging buddies about it.
It's the difference between slaughtering a pig and eating it, and beating the shit out of a pig just so you can take pictures of you with its bloodied face in a chokehold.
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>>2712940
>>2712915
I know, but bass fishing is very popular so there bounds to be some dumb people. I've been on this gen for a while and there's at least one guy who is constantly seeth about bass fishing for no reason
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>>2712942
but most c&r fish do not die. also, people who fish to eat them release fish that are too small to keep, or violate regulations and keep them anyways. both are just as bad. nobody kills as many fish as the bucket brigade.
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>>2712893
massive fucking egos, yet can't cook for shit (mcslop diet)
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>>2712947
>but most c&r fish do not die
No but they are wounded and stressed and thus more likely to die of other causes such as predation or disease.
>also, people who fish to eat them release fish that are too small to keep
Of course. When you go hunting, you don't always land every shot. That doesn't mean you should go hunting with the explicit intention of shooting over top of the deer's head.
>or violate regulations and keep them anyways
Yeah, that's bad, and illegal. If you see people doing this then report them to your local game cops.
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>>2710858
I do hook&bait fishing at my summer cottage and i have bought myself a collapsible travel fishing rod for camping use. I am in a look for a bucket to place the caught fish in, does anyone know if I could use a water bag for keeping the fish in while I am doing my fishing. Or would the fish jump out of there? The fish that I'd be most likely catching would be perch and roach.
Pic very much related, that's what I've had in my mind.
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I know next to nothing about fishing and am just behind an Atlantic inlet on the east coast of Florida as a tourist, on a sandy bottom with no structures. I built pic related from some stuff I've got at hand because I thought it'd resemble some kind of salt water worm but I'm not sure if it's well designed or not. Worm -> rubber ball -> 1/2 oz weight. Did like 30 casts during the middle of the day and not a single bite. What fish do you think there might be to catch here and is my design bad? We were a bit farther inland earlier on a river and I caught a redfish (red drum) on the 3rd cast with a Rapala original floating minnow but even though I did like 30 casts with that out here on the sand close to the sea I got zero bites. Again I'm a total beginner so tell me if I'm doing it wrong. Fishing from a boat in an anchorage with a sandy bottom.
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I was trout fishing today on my new reel, which is mono. Normally, I fish with a leader and a swivel, but today, it was cold af, so I grabbed a snap bearing swivel (40 lb). In the past, I was getting line twist this way, which did not happen when I switched to a 9 lb barrel swivel. Do overly large swivels fail to swivel?
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>>2713049
Larger swivels need more force to be made to swivel.
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>>2713080
My thinking exactly. Tyvm
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today I broke a rod while casting... big bam! sound
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What's the benefit of offset hooks vs inline? Do they lead to better hooksets or does it really make that much of a difference?
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i bought a lure, ill report back how i like it. im sure hookup ratios are gonna be garbo, i have no idea what the durability will be, and i dont particularly like the shank the trailer is tied on, BUT if this walks decently, and i can put it deep in cover like i want to, this might be one of my new favorite baits
>>2713038
>on a sandy bottom with no structures
thgere's your first problem. fish dont tend to like big flat nothing. find a sand bar or a drop off or a point or a pier or a trough or something, anything.
>I'm not sure if it's well designed or not
you were kind of close and in theory you could catch a fish with that, but the fish you would catch like that would almost certainly bite it off immediately. i also suspect that youre not fishing it nearly aggressively enough for mackerel or bluefish or anything of the sort, though im not confident they were even in the area to be fished for by the lack of attention to the rapala.
go to the local tackle shop- not a chain store, a a proper local tackle shop, tell the person behind the counter that you're not from the area and you left your brain cells back home, and you want to catch a fish and you should be able to get pointed half way in a direction at least.
>>2713188
breaking rods is dreadful
>>2713196
i genuinely dont think it matters for hookups. that said, i have seen offset hooks designed to make baits spin while trolling, i think they were specifically marketed for walleye.
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>>2713208
Looks like a vibrator.
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>>2713208
I mentioned the sandy bottom with no structures because I'm just casting casually from the boat that I live on, I'm not moving to any other place and am just curious on how to make the best of a place like this

>the fish you would catch like that
Which types of fish would that be? Would I jig for those with a steel leader on a sandy flat bottom?

>mackerel or bluefish
Do you think those would be more common where I am than redfish, for example? Maybe I should use a steel leader with the Rapala floating minnow since mackerels have sharp teeth, right?
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>>2713214
i dont know whats around, google [nearest maajor city or beach] fishing report and see what people are caching if anything.
your best shot at mackerel or blues, if they're around, would be long casts and burning it through them to look like a glass minnow fleeing, they both have teeth and youd need wire leader, if they're even in the area. redfish usually aren't chasing glass minnows, they're usually more interested in shrimp, crabs, and mullet.>>2713214
>I'm not moving to any other place
>make the best of a place like this
have fun casting
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>>2713003
They make collaspable/packable cloth buckets with more shape to them. One of those would be better than a formless bag. I use one like this that I got from Tractor Supply, but this picture is one that's $12 US on Amazon.
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How much do yall like to plan a trip and what factors are your top considerations for plans? I got into fishing when my wife was about 2 months into her pregnancy with our daughter. She's 3 months old now and with work and her I'm lucky enough to work out at least 1 all day trip every 2 weeks. Want to get better at planning and research so I get the most out of these trips. I fish around north AL and have mainly targeted the elk river and limestone bay/creek. Haven't really explored too much. Just recently got an old town p13 for a really good deal. Unsure if fishing a bigger body with it would be a good idea or if I should stick to smaller ones since it's pretty much spawn and the air temp is supposed to be in 70-80s this weekend. I fish multi-species mostly (bc I'm desperate to not get skunked), but have been thinking about picking something in particular since I've grown a little tried of catching just bream.
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I want to get into fishing for food. Is it worth it to catch panfish like crappie, perch, and bluegill? It seems like it would be a lot of effort. What are the tastiest medium sized fish?

In my area I can catch the following medium sized fish:
bass
trout
northern pike
chain pickerel
walleye
sheepshead
snakehead
black drum
red drum
snapper
spanish mackerel
spot
spotted seatrout
tautog
weakfish

half of these I never even heard of let alone know how tasty they are.
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>>2713338
>Is it worth it to catch panfish like crappie, perch, and bluegill? It seems like it would be a lot of effort.
They're the easiest fish to catch. Why would they be a lot of effort?
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>>2713342
Not to catch but to clean and cook. I don't want to have to cook like 6 fish to get a meal.
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>>2713338
Make sure your area isn't polluted.
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>>2713338
saltwater fish
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>>2713338
The safest fish grow fast and eat small things. In freshwater, this means Crappies. In saltwater, Mahi Mahi.

In salt, I would eat snappers before drum, and weakfish and sea trout before mackerel, but all of these are good choices if you don’t go after the jumbos. I would eat trout before bass and walleye before northerns in fresh, but modestly sized bass and northerns are also generally good choices.

I don’t know which fish called spot you are talking about. Most I know are smaller, safe to eat fish, but some aren’t great table fare.
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>>2713378
In the Midwest, eating bass is very unusual. Eating walleye and perch, on the other hand, is very common. I'm aware that people eat pike and like it, which probably isn't too different. Walleye and perch are definitely good eater fish.
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I never catch a walleye in my life but I think they are spawning right now on rivers in my area. What baits to use and how deep? Jig and minnow still the standard or is that only for fishing deeper water from a boat?
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>>2713338
start with spot, theyre really easy to catch, clean and cook and taste pretty good. if you enjoy it then go for something bigger like red drum. i didnt see bluefish in your list but try those as well, theyre very easy to clean compared to something like a speckled trout.
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>>2713378
>>2713405
Spot
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>>2713401
Tons of people eat bass in the midwest, just not average suburban white people. Rural people and coloreds eat a ton of bass. Small mouth have a good reputation as table fare, and honestly largemouth don't taste any different when they come out of the same water. The bad reputation that largemouth have as eaters comes from people keeping largemouth from warm disgusting water that smallmouth wouldn't live in regardless.
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Decided to not go to the lake and just urban fish today. Got 3. Biggest one being 4, pic related.
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>>2713513
Short and fat.
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Dick and balls swim bait.
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Anyone ever gone Marlin hunting before? What kind of setup could you recommend? See a lot of charters trolling using fresh caught skip baits and pop lures on rods. Going to be sailing up the east coast of Australia to the great barrier reef for the next year or so and I see it's pretty much the best place on the planet to catch giant 1000lb Marlin later in the year. Would love to catch and release a true monster fish before I die but idk how feasible it is to attempt single handed and the charter prices are absolutely insane. Maybe I could rope some locals on board for a free trip out?
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>>2713545
It's dangerous for anyone even the pros. I wouldn't fuck around.
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I just want to go back out on the boat and catch big red snapper again.
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>>2713406
cool fishe
can you eat it?
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>>2713548
thats why no one will remember your name
>>2713568
yeah, fried spot and croaker is a local tradition on the southeast coast
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>>2713514
That's a fatty
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Caught my first fish :)
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>>2713585
Fuck around and find out.
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>>2713606
Congrats
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>>2713631
thanks buddy =)
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Wish I could fish but gale force winds and rain are just too much.
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>>2713747
pussy
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>>2712738
Thanks for the advice, anon. Will sealed bearings keep sand/gravel/mud from getting into the reel and gumming it up? I had that problem last year when I set the rod down to unhook a fish - a bunch of wet sand somehow got in and kept it from spinning smoothly.
>The one thing I can advise you for sure is to not blow whatever you have left on a bunch of tackle
I wasn't going to buy too much. Just a couple of lures, hooks (the ones I have are fairly small), and some line.
Speaking of line, how do I figure out what weight of line I should go with? Should I just go with the maximum of what the rod is rated for?
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>>2713748
What if I was?
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I'm fat and tall. When I got into fishing last year, my area was in drought. The same is the case now, but who knows how long that will last. What's a good raincoat for fishing. I see guys wearing them, but I don't know the brands or what to look for.
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>>2713750
sealed bearings just mean that the bearings won't shit out from getting water in them. it's one less thing to maintain. water and sediment will still make it into the actual reel though, but it's easy to service once a year, just watch some youtube videos. if you do your best to keep it off the ground though, especially sand/dirt, that limits how often you need to service it. things like fishing in rain and getting water all over the reel also makes the grease get gummed up quicker too. as for the line, it's usually best to choose that based on what kind of presentations you plan to do. that usually means the lightest line you can get away with, but if you don't know... I'd probably just stick towards the lower half of the rating on the rod. if a rod is rated for 6-15lb line, just use 8-10lb. most of the 8lb and 10lb line is pretty damn strong to start with, and you don't really want super thick line on a spinning reel because it can get pretty unruly.8-10lb trilene xl is a good mono, 8lb yo-zuri hybrid is a more sensitive alternative because it has less stretch, but it's thicker per pound rating. it's plenty strong and if you play fish with drag you're not really gonna have any problems unless it's a toothy fish. you just want to make sure whatever line you have isn't so weak that it breaks before your rod can bend deep into the blank.
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Fuckin wind almost got the power out.
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My dad is fishing in Rio Negro, Uruguay and caught this thing, what is it?
I want to pretend like I know what he’s doing, but I’m more of a mountains guy, not a fish guy
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>>2713851
that's a catfish
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>>2713911
The whiskers, I should have paid more attention
Thank you Anon, my first though was a Dorado de Rio because of the colors but no, it wasn’t
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I need someone here to care about centerpin fishing please
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First bass on the 8wt for me. A bit overkill, and could've had him on my 5wt, but I'm happy with a catch that isn't a micro dink. Hoping I'll be catching bigger as things warm up. Best bass for me have been in the spring so I'm looking forward to more outings.
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>>2714084
qrd?
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first striper of the year, small at 24".
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>Seasons starts tomorrow
YEAHÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ
Can't wait to get out again
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>>2714143
Lucky, I still have to wait a week. Also the good place for trout charges. Their just stock trout too.
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>>2710858
my mom and stepdad just bought a house on a lake with a dock and a creek
bluegill, sunfish, perch, bass, and catfish
It's ten minutes away from my house, I'm a bout to bust a nut
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>>2714088
it's basically a 1:1 gear ratio and you have to fight fish with no drag. a lot of salmonid guys are doing it these days.
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>>2714084
centerpinning is too gay even for me buy a fly rod fag
>>2714087
hell yeah anon
>>2714097
what rod is that it looks sick
>>2714156
hot
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>>2714240
2010s era beulah surf 9/10
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>>2714156
I'm going to have to steal your life mate.
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>>2714143
>he has closed seasons
This is one of those extremely rare cases where I like living in Manitoba. You can fish all year round now, and the only species that ever have closed seasons are walleye (which is april to may), lake trout, and lake sturgeon. Not that you can keep sturgeon anyway so I don't see why that one matters. Which is a shame, because I'd really like to try eating one.
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>>2714406
In Iowa, there are no closed seasons, and the trout streams are open year round. The DNR likes to say that they're warmer in the winter.
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>>2714557
Your mom is open year round and warmer in the winter
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Novice here, are inline spinners good for the sea? I want to catch seabass
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>>2714621
They make saltwater inlines and they work good.
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Got my first warden rooster.
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>tfw got a egi rod as my first fishing rod by mistake
Can I use this for most fishes?
It's a ukiyo-100 230
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>>2712893
I specifically waited to respond to your post because I knew in 1-2 weeks I would have a chance of catching a smallmouth I’ve caught 2 years in a row. Today marks the 3rd time and 3rd year in a row.

Tell me again, what am I doing wrong?
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>>2714904
>2022: 4.25 pounds
>2023: 4.6 pounds
>2024: 4.8 pounds
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>>2714905
>that piece of cardboard costs $40
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>>2714905
Now this is the kind of autism I like.
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>>2714801
Forgot to write but it's a medium action
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>>2714801
cuttlefish and squid rod

depends on what you're fishing for
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>>2715182
seabass
Should I turn it back?
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How do I avoid this?
>purple arrows: wind
>blue arrow: casting direction
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>>2713401
i wish i didn't suck at fishing so i could make my own perch but now i'm finna order some
>>2713338
perch is absolutely delightful imo
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>>2715198
Uhhh, did you try casting more to the left???
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>>2715198
cast along the green arrow so the wind blows you where you esnt to be
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Anyone here ever fly fish in south east Idaho in the early spring? What were you using?
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>>2715215
The fisherman doodle it's just a visual aid
>>2715219
I tried that, but it doesn't feel right and doesn't go very far.
So the line loose going with the wind is a normal thing? Or does the gear has to do with it
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>>2715224
It's normal but the faster than reel in and manage your line, the earlier and better get the retrieve you want
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>>2715224
With wind the best casts are with the wind to your back or in your face. The worst casts will be when the wind is perpendicular to your cast direction. Casting at a 45 degree angle will be half as bad.

Using lower diameter line also helps but when the wind is 15-20 mph its not gonna matter and you will be scoped out. One trick is to keep your line low as possible in the water, obviously if your fishing current this will hurt more than help.
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how fucking long does it take a river to melt
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>>2715198
What other anons have said and if you're using a baitcaster: feather it through the cast so the line is straight and not all fucked from the wind.

Heavier, aerodynamic lures are your best bet. As an example, a heavier kastmaster spinner just glides through wind like a literal bullet. When it's windy, I put down the panther martins and grab the kastmasters if I'm spinner fishing once in a blue moon for whatever reason.
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Fish is slimey. Can you cook it when it is slimey or do need to take of the slime, if yes how?
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>>2715452
water
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>>2711012
nice virtue signalling, faggot
>dead fish is bad because.... IT JUST IS OK?
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>>2715452
rubbing it with salt can remove slime, also descaling
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>>2715477
Is it necessary or can you safely cook it anyhow?
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>>2715479
you can just use your hand or the back of your knife. It certainty doesn't help the taste of anything leaving slime on and plus if you want to sear or get crispy skin its just gonna make it worse.
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>>2715479
You wont die if you eat scales or slime but idk why youd want to
>>2715452
I like a clean, dry paper towel for getting slime off fish. A clean dry washcloth or towel works, too, if you want to wash it.
>>2715469
It's literally unlawful in the state of ohio to butcher your fish on the water, on top of killing for the sake of killing being unsportsmanlike, harmful to the fishery, and just a generally shitty thing to do. Let's also talk about the smell that a corpse like that will produce.
Heres your (You) faggot.
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>>2715236
>>2715345
>>2715404
thanks
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Is there any yt video that showcases the techniques used for lure fishing?
(such as arm movement, retrieving, casting, etc.)
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>>2713780
Thanks again! I guess I'll go with 10lb or maybe 8. The rod I have now came with 6lb mono. I never broke it off with a fish on (only when getting stuck on weeds), but then again I haven't actually hooked anything large yet, so I'm a little concerned it'll be too light for something like a big pike.
>as for the line, it's usually best to choose that based on what kind of presentations you plan to do
This is really the part of fishing I think I struggle with. I don't really have any idea what kinds of fish like what kinds of bait/lures. Last year I just fished with a nightcrawler on a hook with a bobber, but I only caught small bullheads that way. I tried some soft plastic crayfish and minnows (they were just what was in my dad's old tackle box that he never used) but didn't get a single bite with them.
I'm really hoping to get some pike this spring. Any suggestions on what kind of bait/lures I ought to use? Gonna be bank fishing on rivers, of course.
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>>2715582
I don't think so. Normally you are stuck watching long form content in the hopes of getting one little useful nugget. But it is worth pointing out that such detailed technique is rod and reel specific. It is pretty hard to make a generic catch all instructions because there is no one correct way to do things.
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>>2715561
I don't clean my fish on the water, but I know others do and that it's common practice. I've seen guides in Florida clean fish on the dock and throw the garbage in the water. I think that's a lot better than the dump because there are animals that will eat it. However, I wouldn't leave it on the rocks, although that doesn't stop birds from getting it.
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>>2715622
The problem with throwing it in the water is that if everyone does that, then all the rotting fish corpses will poison the water.
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>>2715561
Butchering on the lake is highly discouraged in Minnesota (and thus the BWCA) but is the recommended practice in Quetico Provincial Park on the other side of the US-Canada border. The Canadians have the right of it IMO and the fact that the Minnesota/BWCA policy has softened in my lifetime tells me that plenty of others agree. But don’t do it at the edge of the water unless you’re in a tarpon, cobia, and lemon shark filled Florida marina. Go to deep water, pierce the swim bladder, and sink the carcass so that the nutrients return to the lake and the bears and gulls aren’t made to be a nuisance.
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>>2715633
The nutrient load of a butchered fish carcass (and not just a C&R guthooked bass) is pretty similar to the urea respiration and excretion of the living fish. The water body should be able to handle it unless it was overstocked to the point of becoming a poisonous body on its own. People braining and banking silvers (without taking them to a dumpster afterwards) is a public health threat. Dumping the guts and spine and skin off a fish you are eating is actually nutrient export because you’re taking about half the nitrogen with you when you leave.
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>>2715653
It probably depends on the body of water and the conditions of it. If it's large or flowing then it's probably not going to do any damage, but if the ecosystem is already stressed and it's a small body of water, then people dumping 10 rotting carcasses into it could be enough to kill more shit. The problem isn't one person throwing one dead fish back in, it's one person or multiple people throwing a bunch of dead fish in all at once. In nature, the fish wouldn't all die and start to decompose at roughly the same time, it would be staggered. Adding too much nutrients at once is a recipe for algae blooms and other bad shit.
Also as >>2715652 says if you're going to dump the remains in the water, you should do it in the deeper waters to keep scavengers away and to prevent the carcass from just washing right back up on the bank.
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>>2715582
Steve Roger's has a bunch of cool videos showing what's happening with your bait under water. Most of them kind of reiterate the same thing but they're short and get the point across.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FHkujo1wTA0
The only downside is he uploads way too many videos so it's hard to find what you're looking for.
I wouldn't over think it. A straight retrieve works 90% of the time
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Anyone here fish with a Mitchell reel? I grew up fishing on an old Mitchell 300 and absolutely loved it for bass and panfish. While I was going through my attic I found a Mitchell 304 reel that I’ve been fixing up for trout season. I know the modern reels cast better and are more user friendly but I just love the look and feel of an old Mitchell. Anyone else?
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Caught my personal best panfish today, I think it's a redear, but I'm not sure. It may be no big deal but im pretty new and it got me excited. What size and type of hook do you guys prefer for drop shotting panfish? It's become my preferred method and I've been using size 6 aberdeens. Fish was at around 9 inches so I put them back, was an absolute blast to reel in.
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What's the best way to fish for salmon? I don't have a boat, so it'd be piers or from the shore, or near the mouth of rivers. Is the casting type reel the best to look at? And a rod that allows me to get stuff out super far?
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>>2715688
Nice one. I use Owner Mosquito Light hooks for dropshotting. Most commonly size #6 but I have them in several different sizes. Once I figured out that a 2.5" Gulp Minnow and #6 hook were the perfect pairing that allows you to essentially only catch larger panfish and weed out the smaller ones, I haven't changed the formula much. I can't wait until the late spring/early summer when they're biting like crazy, hopefully I get some PBs. Some of the smaller sunfish species require smaller hooks and baits if you have them in your area. This guy has some good Sunfish knowledge but I don't really advise going bigger than a size #6. With a dropshot you don't really have to worry about the fish swallowing the hook anyways so you can get away with undersized hooks. Anything over size #6 and the hook point will have a high chance of going through the fish's eye. With smaller fish, even a #6 might but I haven't had it happen. Have on #4 and that's why I stopped going above #6.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TbaTu45nCc
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>>2715633
>>2715652
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>>2715655
The number of silver carp has apparently gone up significantly in a short space of time (months), and there is an order to kill them. I live in Iowa, so we have a very serious problem of agricultural runoff and a severe drought for the past year, which is hopefully coming to an end. I would be catching silvers in a good-sized river in an urban setting. There are no trash cans nearby, but I think I might try to dispose of them that way. Plus, I have a friend who will eat any fish so fat, so he might enjoy eating silver carp.
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>>2715619
What I meant is how to use lures in the way they were made for.
Kinda like this https://youtu.be/qgpNtohoAmU?si=dhO-yaI5g6tiapFm
>>2715668
thank you anon
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Give me one reason I shouldn't
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>>2715766
how the dollar has fallen
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>>2715766
I could make a whole setup with that money lol.
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>>2715766
Does it suck your dick and give you a reach around?
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>>2715766
>pain in the ass to adjust brakes and spool tension perfectly
>metanium 2020 has the same features and a more rigid frame since it’s one piece frame compared to multi piece Antares
>metanium 2020 is easier to dial in perfectly, casts just as good if not better
>metanium weighs like 2 ounces lighter and is just as smooth as Antares 70HG
>Antares without a DC lol
>heavy as fuck for a 70 size spool
I own one. I’m speaking from experience. I paid $350 for mine brand new pre-COVID.
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>>2715791
Jesus Christ
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>>2715774
I would buy a boat with that money
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>>2715807
I'm about to go pull an old 12-14ft john boat out of my dads back yard and build it out this weekend, and i'm so fucking excited.
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>>2715807
Boats are for fags.
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>>2715830
Obviously, since they're always full of seamen
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>>2715561
>It's literally unlawful in the state of ohio
nobody cares
>killing for the sake of killing being unsportsmanlike
may as well sell your gear then
>harmful to the fishery
no
>and just a generally shitty thing to do.
nobody cares
>Let's also talk about the smell that a corpse like that will produce.
nobody cares
nobody cares but (You)
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>>2715913
What is this retard doing here?
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>>2715939
There's a contrarian for everything.
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>>2715913
Go away you subhuman
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>>2715702
As long as you're not leaving them where they'll become a nuisance, sounds like a great idea!
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>it's finally warm out
>excited to fish this weekend
>mfw the rivers are still frozen fucking solid and probably will be for at least another week
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>>2716086
>it's finally warm out
>season is closed
>only allowed to fish roach and carp, that kinda slop
I'm not a big fan of the government
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>Opening day trout this Saturday.
We are so back.
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>>2716108
Where I live I wouldn't eat anything out of the water. Not even stocked trout. Still sounds fun to try out.
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>>2716123
>Where I live I wouldn't eat anything out of the water
skill issue
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>>2716124
Sorry dude I just don't want cancer. Just a few months ago a historical amount of paint thinner got dumped nearby. Things like that are common here.
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>>2716125
stocked trout are probably less safe for you than most other freshwater fish. that goes for all farmed fish. they live in plastic tubs full of shitfilled water and are diseased and disfigured, low gene pool, and fed pellets that are lower quality than normal pet food.
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>>2710858
Any salt fisherman here able to offer advice?
>Snook and tarpon
I mainly fish fresh water but occasionally I’ll go to some waters known to have snook and tarpon, some of these waters are brackish some are straight up freshwater.
But I never have any luck. I don’t want to use live bait unless I’m on a boat in the ocean or surf fishing. I used shiners once and had some tarpon but they spit the hook. I caught one snook off a senko worm.


What am I doing wrong? I’m using mainly plastic flukes. Some times I’ll have a snook try to bite last second before it’s out of the water but it always misses and they don’t seem to give a shit about slower retrieves or anything with pauses.
I’ve tried too waters, swim baits, soft plastic flukes, a rapala twitch bait, paddle tails. The closest I’ve come is on the plastic flukes. Same thing happened with a tarpon once a few months ago. I’ve caught jack on the flukes.


What lures should I try?
I really want to get a skiff or a kayak. At least then I could just have some live/cut bait on one line while using lures with another and still keep it moving and not be stuck in one stretch of land.
>surf fishing
I see guys surf fishing with hyoooge rods. Is that shit necessary? Could I just get some 2000 and a 7’-8’ rod and do well like that? Also, how do I find beach without 15 Mexican families of 30 on top of me so I can have my space and also privacy to just relax while I do that, not have to worry about edgar getting hooked or being in the way? Every beach near me is crowded with people. I’d go on the pier but that’s hit or miss and I’ve usually only ever caught small grunts and sand perch plus I don’t want to go anywhere that Mr. Xoa Chang is gonna beg me to give him my catches.
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>>2716275
I forgot to say even though it should be kinda obvious, but Florida. Fort Lauderdale area.
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Do bluegill and other Bream reproduce as fast as I've heard they do? the limit in my state is 50 per person per day but that seems like so much to me, surely if people were to try and hit that on a regular basis it would decimate the population right? What's a safe amount to pull from the water?
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>>2716222
Yeah that sounds like what I have heard from others. I question if I should even use them as bait or fertilizer. They seem pretty good for nothing. Other than practicing fishing on.
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>>2716433
Just get what you will eat at most. The bucketfags do enough harm.
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>>2716433
In warm weather states, they can spawn 8 times a year and a 1 lb female bluegill will lay 20,000 eggs or so. Obviously anything can be over-fished, especially if people pound the shit out of spawn beds on a regular basis, but even up north where they spawn 2-3 times a summer instead of all year round, a lake will typically produce 5-10 times as much biomass in panfish as it will gamefish, so they are generally a more sustainable harvest. I feel better about taking out a friend and double limiting on crappies and sunfish (here that would be 80 fish total, 20 per person of both sunfish and crappies) than I do about keeping a pike over 30 inches.
My friends and I do a fish fry every 4th of July and to feed the whole group, we need about 100 9+ inch panfish.
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filling up a bucket was fine back in the day when population density was low in rural america. nowadays that shit is just bad for the fisheries. especially if you live somewhere with a large population. I don't know how these people even eat all the fish they keep. I'm convinced they sell them or something. I've seen the same suspects take bucket fulls every single week, and even out of small ponds. it's one thing to do that to a lake, but they pond hop like they're trying to commit genocide on these fish. if you're gonna catch some fish to eat make it a multi-species trip and don't be a greedy shortsighted idiot. people have the nerve to say "this place ain't what it used to be" after they're the ones that only left dinks that were only born the previous year. they're probably yanking them all off the beds as we speak. eat some damn bass or something, we got way too many of those.
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I went to my local shop to pick up an Echo Lift Kit I bought on sale, as suggested. They had to order it in and did it piecemeal, which resulted in my getting a 2/3 on a 4 WT with 5WT line. I just got the 4/5 WT reel, keeping the 5WT line. The salesman said it would be fine. Is he right?
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>>2716543
Yeah
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>>2716222
That's nonsense for the stocked rainbows in my state. The DNR has a hatchery (there are other non-DNR ones), and they use pristine spring water that gets constantly cycled. In fact, the region the hatchery is in has the most spring creeks in the world. Rainbows are then taken to nearby creeks or brought to urban ponds like one near me.
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>>2716547
What state?
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>>2716125
genetic skill issue
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>>2716618
That could apply to most of America.
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Are stocked trout as dumb as they say?
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>>2716642
Last year my friend hooked a tiny one through the top of it's mouth with the hook tip sticking out near the eye. He let it go and caught it again 5 minutes later.
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>>2716657
Playdough might actually work on them, Jesus.
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>>2716433
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>>2716510
I’m mixed about harvesting anything. I hate seeing some nig cane poling 100+ fish. Or a fat nigger walking the banks and putting a live shiner on a circle hook with 50lb test mono directly inside every spawning bass bed he can see and harvesting them all (over the bag limit with no regard to sizes). I haven’t see a bluegill in years, a bass over 4lbs in years. They’ve been overfished where I am, and replaced with invasive cichlids. The cichlids are more aggressive and spawn in different areas so the bass and other fish don’t get to eat them as often and don’t get as big. I can remember a time where I would catch absolute slab panfish/bluegill/sunfish and also regularly get 5lber bass. Now all I see are cichlids and the occasional small sunfish and any bass are closed to 1-3lbs.
>hahah faggot bass fisherman
I fish for everything but it used to be nice knowing if I couldn’t go out for snook that I could probably land a 5lb bass. I only eat fish from the ocean. I would consider freshwater if I lived somewhere else. I don’t think there’s an issue with feeding yourself or your family but what I have issue with is over harvesting, especially when it’s done by some absolute geek who’s never fished and just wants to feel like some le epic hunter primal guy who earned his meal just to be catching them in the above described ways. May as well cast net at that point… or beg another man for him to feed you his catch.. But if you follow regs then it’s fair game I suppose. Just don’t come fish within 15 feet of me and I really don’t care at the end of the day.
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>>2716535
See>>2716711. The changes I described are only from 2011 to now.
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>>2716711
I can go an entire year without seeing a single nigger in real life. Sorry that where you live is overrun.
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>>2716737
Lmao you’re lucky man. I caught a small 2lb bass and had this obese nigger and his 6 boyfriends run across the entire place to crowd around me and fish where I was, they were doing the live shiner in bass bed thing and cheering when they caught one like it took any skill. The fat nig then told me I was in their way and I had to be the one to leave. Probably because I never stopped casting regardless if their lines were in the water. I made a promise to myself to CC while I fish so if it happens again and it’s some 6v1 shit like that I can either pop rounds into the water and scare the fish off so no one has fun or defend myself after I start tangling lines and they begin to bitch.
I’ll take it you’re in some place like New Hampshire. My buddy moved up there a few years ago, he says he still hasn’t seen a single nig
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>>2716275
On the west coast it’s pretty common to surf fish with a light 9’ rod and a 3000 size reel. I know you guys have larger species in Florida so a bit more line isn’t a bad thing. I’ll occasionally fish with a 7’3 casting rod off jetties or docks, but from the surf it’s not long enough to get out past breakers. I much prefer a longer spinning rod from the beach, at least 9’
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>>2716711
the main problem with hunting/fishing in general is that the average person who does it has no knowledge about the mating/spawning habits, life cycles, habitats, etc of whatever they're after. they know how to catch it and kill it but that's the extent of their knowledge. one only has to look at western europe if they want to see what overharvesting and environmental loss does to the ecosystem. America is quickly on the way to becoming the same, which is insane to think about considering the size of our country and population density. the natural habitats are shrinking daily, replaced by highways, building projects, farms, etc. 99% of the people I know who hunt and fish are ignorant to anything besides knowing how to pull the trigger to be brutally honest. that's probably why I don't hang out with anyone who shares those hobbies. you can hunt and fish without being a nature rapist.
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>>2716747
wait until you learn that there are people who "snag" fish off beds.
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>>2716794
It’s just gay dude. Im not even gonna delve into how it sounds like common sense that if you enjoy a hobby you will inevitably learn other basic bits of info about it such as mating/spawning habits without trying to, but what gets me is the sheer lack of common sense and selfishness these faggots portray. In my head it’s
>Im glad I learned to fish as a kid and can continue this hobby. If I have kids or become an uncle I would love to pass this down to them and have them pass it down and so on
Which cannot happen if the fish are gone. Most people I know who harvest fish from freshwater are as you say. They don’t really know shit about fishing.
I got an Asian FOB buddy who keeps begging me to fish with him and I won’t do it because I know he’s keeping everything he catches. Love the guy, but it’s retarded (also unrelated he has a hot 4’11” wife and I suspect he’s a cuck and wants me to fuck her not doing that).
Shit they barely know different species and have zero regard for what they’re catching size or season or bag limits. None of this is to even mention how disgusting eating fish out of a freshwater canal in Florida of all places is, the meat tastes horrible and it’s full of toxins. I’ve met guys who have mentioned guy hooking a freshwater snook so they harvested it and they talked about how disgusting it tasted compared to a salt snook. So it’s literally just a waste of fish because some retard wanted to feel like an epic primal fisherman who hunted his own food in what’s usually the lowest skill way possible short of snagging or netting, just to have a shitty tasting meal.
>>2716796
I know dude. A fishing influenced I know told me about seeing an Asian fob cast netting largies and harvesting all of them. There’s also a page I follow called snaggers and poachers or something like that, he shames and posts all the snaggers who get caught. It’s dumb. Just go buy fish from the market at that point.
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>>2716862
>my Asian relatives are too obsessed with keeping fishes so I don't want to go fishing with them or invite them to go fishing.
>my more western/westernized friends don't care about fishing
I guess I'll go fishing alone
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>>2716871
I can somewhat understand why Asians and maybe a few other immigrants are like that, but the western people who do this shit I just don’t understand. An Asian FOB it’s just food to them probably not even about sport. Hence why they’d be keeping even pin fish and anything they get. Saw a different buddy of mine post his recent fishing trip and dude harvested a puffer, mullet, a grunt, and a small sand perch. He went home and his viet family turned it all into a soup or stew or something.
>westernized friends don’t care to fish
Yeah I’ve had plenty of those. I tried hard to get them into fishing and they’d make 1000 excuses not to. I’d have tied all knots and everything lmao. Kind of glad they didn’t say yes, the idea of tying all the knots and basically catching everyone’s fish for them sounds retarded.
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>>2716796
My friend Mike Long says that's an easy way to become a millionaire.
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>>2717018
Also i caught a 43cm long fat silver seatrout today, but i didnt take a picture because i you mean less than the fish to me. It was my personal record, but not by much. And also not very impressive at all, maybe 3 kgs
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I snag and eat big bass by the bucketload. Delicious.
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>>2717025
Isnt bass notorious for tasting like shit?
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>>2717030
Lots of people have dumbfuck opinions about the flavors of fish that they've never eaten. Largemouth is less firm than crappie, smallmouth is firmer than crappie, both taste just fine if they come from clean water. Largemouth will live in scummy little ponds where everything tastes like shit and this is where they get their reputation.
I don't eat big predator fish because of concerns about PFAS accumulation, but if a small (under 2 lb) bass takes my fly when I'm targeting bluegills or my jig when I'm targeting crappies, he might end up on the table, especially if the bite is slow for my target species. In cleaner waters where PFAS accumulation isn't a concern, I'll eat pike and smallies, but there doesn't tend to be much in the way of largemouth in these places.

Sports anglers also are incentivized to spread the word that their favorite target species isn't a good eater, because then fewer people eat them.
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>>2717064
>I don't eat big predator fish because of concerns about PFAS accumulation
You aren't really avoiding PFAS contamination by doing this. PFAS are everywhere.
Do you wipe your ass with toilet paper? PFAS. Do you drink unfiltered tapwater or even rainwater? PFAS. Do you eat any kind of food at all? PFAS.
Just like microplastics, PFAS have become ubiquitous across the entire planet, in every ecosystem. They're in the soil, in the water, in the rain, and in every living thing that is exposed to them - which is almost all of them except maybe some extremophile bacteria in a hydrothermal vent somewhere.
Eating certain fish isn't going to make a real difference with regards to how much PFAS you're exposed to.
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>>2717069
I was using the wrong term, I meant PCB. PCBs accumulated in animals at higher trophic levels.
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Just picked up a bottle of "craw" scent from dead on plastics and holy shit that stuff is strong. smells like 3 week old shrimp left in the sun.
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>>2717030
Never ate largemouth but i have had smallmouth and it was pretty good.
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whilst you shit on minorities eating everything they catch, remember that no demographic group is innocent of follery. I have boomer relatives that think it's standard practice to throw their senko on the bank once it's split beyond use. I have to clean up behind them and they ask me why I don't just leave it there. It's entirely a human problem, each group just has their tendencies. I'll never understand how anyone can carelessly shit up the outdoors and like the outdoors at the same time. I guess it's like the people who choose to piss in a bottle and leave it in their bedroom instead of just using the toilet and flushing it.
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Going fishing for stocked trout for the first time today. Any last minute info?
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>>2717117
Use as light line as possible, preferably with a light or ultralight rod. Inline spinners are by far the most fun, assuming you are not fly fishing. Be sure to use a tiny swivel with these. You can always use a bobber and worm, but I don't think it is very fun.
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>>2717122
Hope my 4lb works lol it's all I have at the time. As for the rod I need to get better. I'll see if a rooster tail works. Who knows Maybe I can find a stick nearby and put some line on that. Knowing my rod it could be better.
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>>2716699
Smoke 'em brine 'em can 'em
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>>2717064
That’s the thing dude. You’re doing it the right way.
>eating from clean water
>only taking the occasional sports fish
>keeping a small sized one and not some 10lb monster
I assume you’re the chang poster joking about snagging and that was in response to my posts above that (kek btw), but I see way too many people harvesting every single bass they can spot fish and it’s out of shitty water. It’s a simple fact that fish out of 99% of Florida's residential waters are shit quality. The people who claim it tastes good have never eaten anything beyond store bought tilapia and are just spicing it to hell to mask the natural tastes. That type of water is better left for sport. You talk on PFAS and PCBs but that’s not even the worst there is in these waters. Think stuff like leptospirosis. It’s just dumb to eat out of this sort of water. We’re not talking on the Everglades or a natural pond in a northern state or a creek/river. Man made ponds with sewer run off and canal systems, both usually full of trash and all kinds of shit.


You’re going out to fish for two specific species which for all I know in your area are doing fine no overharvesting. I’m talking about people going out harvesting anything and everything they can get from bass getting ready to spawn to carp to sunfish to turtles to ducks to dogs to swimmers. It’s the human form of a longliner but it’ll be in small water sources with maybe a few hundred fish. If Toby McNiggy takes 50/500 bass one day and then again a month later that’s 20% of the fish in that lake gone. Imagine groups of people walking the banks filling buckets with everything they can get during spawn and pre spawn. It cuts down on how many fish should be there. And the quality isn’t even worth doing all that. I would absolutely harvest some freshwater species if I lived elsewhere, but doing that here is straight up retarded on multiple levels
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>>2717101
Yeah it’s not about just minorities there’s no need to deflect man. They’re the ones who do this crap the most, including shit like littering the water with trash. That’s just an example everyone would be able to easily picture because we’ve all seen it many times. Plenty of non minorities who do the same shit and it makes no difference it’s equally as wrong. This hobby in general like 90% of people who fish fuck shit up for everyone else. There’s a dude in northern Florida who fishes a ton and recently killed a baby dolphin because he caught it, took his media picture, and then just placed it on the sand when he was done, for example. His excuse was
“I didn’t know wtf leave me alone” claiming as a Florida native he had no clue they were aquatic animals. Then he changed his story to claim it was found dead despite being very alive in the pic. White kid around 20. That’s the type of shit were talking about. It’s not about race lmao

Idgaf if it’s some gook or some white boomer, it’s just wrong to have these careless practices which will kill this sport/hobby/pastime/whatever you consider it. I also clean up any trash I see and can get whenever I fish. It’s pretty fucking annoying to collect a few hundred yards of line, bottles, food wrappers, bits of soft plastics everywhere I go.
>carelessly shit up the outdoors
Speaking on western boomers this rings a bell of another subject where they were careless if you know what I mean. The same entitlement and selfishness anyways. Reap the good of something for themselves, leave it in a horrible condition for generations after them, then ironically blame those next generations for the damage they caused….
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I went looking for trout and didn't find a single sign of life. Walked for two hours and only saw deer. How did I fuck up?
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>>2717216
Yeah, Florida is fucked. My state has literally a tenth the popluation density, and I still prefer to fish in areas that are harder to reach. Your climate makes your waters super productive, but not 10 times as productive.
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my first fish :)
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>>2717101
per capita
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i don't even care anymore, i'm gonna set trout gill nets in lakes this year
when the average (fully grown) trout size is 100 to 200 grams and starving the lake is being severely neglected
no i'm not asking for permission
no i'm not paying for your fishing loicense when you refuse to cultivate your own lake
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so im new to fishing (did my license in ‘19 and have the stuff) and wanted to get back into it, catching some carp. My local river (small river, bout 15yd wide, muddy unclear water with bass, pikes and carp, among others) is the perfect spot and carp is relatively easy to catch, corn on line on floor and all but I wanted to ask for some advice for carp specifically
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>>2717301
nice specimen and a big one too, did you eat it?
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>>2717310
I'm about to
Never gutted/filleted a fish before
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>NEW!!!
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>>2711112
I aint even gonna lie that's exactly how all my tackleboxes look. But instead of buying a few more organizers I just bought 10 more berkely hit stick size #9 neon rainbow's. I've never even lost one I just like collecting and hoarding them like an autistic dragon
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>>2717123
How did it go? I use 4 lb these days.
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>>2713338
Last year about 40 of my dinners were fresh caught fish. It really really helps the food budget. I'm not poor, I have a good trade job. I'm just a miser that saves every dollar I can. 3 bluegills is 6 good fillets of fried fish. Perch are delicious but a little harder to target, same goes for crappie. Both crappie and perch have more fillet on their body for their body size than bluegill. You should also look into catfishing. They are downright delicious and super easy to catch. Go outside at midnight with a flashlight. Catch yourself a bunch of worms, toss them in a fridge. Catch a ton of bluegills and crappie the next day. Fillet them up for dinner and keep the heads and fins and guts, all the shit you'd toss out and put it in the freezer in a plastic bag. Go the next day with the crappie heads and catch 2 foot long catfish. One big catfish will give you 4 fat fillets of meat. Each one's enough for a meal. Freeze the rest and have food for the rest of the week. Fish up and down the food chain, that's the best way.
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>>2713401
I'm a midwest anon and I've always been preached catch and release when it comes to bass. I've heard many many old heads say "eating a bass is like cookin' up the family dog, you just don't do it" in my book bass is a sacred fish, it's the aquatic bald eagle. I'd never eat one, but I won't blame anyone else for doing it. That's their free will, as long as it's withing legal size.
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>>2715688
that's a certified big boy. also definitely a shellcracker. my personal favorite panfish to catch is green sunfish. they also grow to ridiculous size like red ear's because of their voracious appetite.
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The Fish Locker
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>>2717483
How do you cook them, and most importantly, what is your favorite side dish? I'm thinking fried catfish, which makes french fries a good candidate, but I don't like any of the at-home fry options. I'm intrigued by hush puppies, though.
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First catch of the year a couple weeks back, waiting for the cold to fully go away before I really get started for the year.
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>>2717265
Right now where I am the water temps are still to cold for trout to be actively feeding. I haven't seen any signs of life besides small numbers of images hatching over the past couple weeks but temps are still in the mid 40s here. Pay attention to water temps and check your river has any USGS gauges that track water temps. I usually wait till temps are over 50F before I start really trying for trout. I have the best luck between 50F-64F.
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let me save you guys interested in bass fishing some time and money. you need 1 bait and thats a yamamoto senko. you need various hook and weights to rig it wacky style, neko, ned, texas, weightless, carolina. you only need black with blue fleck. buy the 100 pack bulk when theyre on discount. you need two rods. a 7'3" mh baitcasting rod and a 7' mh spinning rod. thats it. spinning rod with 10 pound braid to 10 point fluoro with fg knot. casting with 30 poung braid to 20 pound fluoro fg knot. master the senko and you will be better than 90% of bass anglers out there.



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