a girlfriend who is into the outdoors if I have no social media? I'm a good looking dude and in shape, just trying to find someone who shares the same passion for the outdoors. My favorite moments in life are out in nature and want someone to share it with. I find it hard to find people who like to go hiking in general. Most people can't handle 10+ mile hikes or summit 14k ft mountains. I'm not expecting a future girlfriend to want to do that, but I'm looking for a woman who is into at least camping and hiking. Do you guys have any suggestions? Should I just approach chicks on the trail? I don't want to come off like a creeper
>>2760937put your erect dick in a trail and cover it with money
>>2760946you forgot the crucial part to smear the dick with birdlime
They're on social media
>>2760937don't you have climbing or hiking clubs in america
Go on a thru hike and stay with the bubble. Hell I had a hiker girl hitting on me on the train over there.
>>2760937>I have no social mediaWomen see this as a red flag. Your opinion on it doesn’t matter.
>>276093798% of hiker girls are whores and liberals.
>>2760991Nah, they see it as something typical for certain guys. I've always told them that I don't use it and it's never been a problem, you can remind them that it's for girls anyway and they will laugh.
>>2761010I don't think that's true. I think they're apolitical if anything
>>2761030Thank you this is great advice. I had a chick who I went on a few dates with completely ghost me after I told her social media rots your brain. Dodged a bullet on that one
>>2760991actively looking for a woman is the reddest flag
>>2760937good luck with that brothe very few women i've been with have all said a big no no to /out/ since there is no toilet or shower
live in an /out/ town
>>2760937Have fun babysitting your gf through the entire thing.https://youtu.be/FTlpxEKsYSE
>>2761039>after I told her social media rots your brainYou know, if the girl in question used social media a lot and had a closed mind, saying something like that might have been received as a direct insult, you basically said that she has a rotten brain. People don't like others insulting them.That said, you have dodged a bullet. If you're looking for a GF and not a pump and dump, you better be honest about your beliefs.
Outdoorsy women are always ugly and fucked up. A woman should stay at home while you do the outdoorsy stuff.
>>2761091>Outdoorsy women are always ugly and fucked upthey are usually stocky and have dog faces. and I don't like dogs
>>2761048This. Dragging bitches into the actual outdoors is like playing a Don't Starve Together world with 10 illiterate spoiled children all combined into one entity, but the penalty for not providing for them isn't screaming into the mic but a breakup.
>>2760937>I don't want to come off like a creeperThen, before everything else, work on not being creepy.Charisma and charm can be developed and improved, even if you are massively autistic, but you have to work on it.
>>2761122I have the charm and charisma, it's just kind of creepy to have a guy out in the middle of nowhere try to hit on you. I look at it from their point of view. You're all sweaty and aren't all "dolled up". This other sweaty guy comes up to you and tries to talk to you, you have no idea who he is. The stranger danger starts to take over your thoughts. I totally get why they'd freak out. If I run into a group of girls hiking together I feel less icky about it because at least that way they have numbers and are more relaxed
>>2761091Not where I live. There are some fucking hotties but they're with their boyfriends
>>2761221Deer are the same, one on its own will be on edge, one with a fawn even more so. But in a group they will be more bold and relaxed, just look out for the old hind who will always have her head up and be ready to bark.
>>2760937Maybe try looking in /out/-related groups or communities. Maybe you have a bushwalking, orienteering, climbing or outdoor photography group in your area? On Facebook, Meetup or similar. Or a landcare charity or volunteer SAR?Just spitballing desu, I met my girl via a friend in my DnD group and she's /out/ enough to have joined me on multi-month long hikes and summitting 20,000 footers. >>2761010>>2761035My wife was pretty firmly on the progressive left when we first met but these days she's almost as racist as me and her outdoor-loving environmentalism is a big part of what helped me push her in that direction. Mass migration is an ecological disaster both on a global scale (with the resultant increases in greenhouse gas emissions and general resource consumption) and a local scale with urban sprawl and the need for higher density housing encroaching on local green spaces.The state of animal welfare in Africa, China or India contributed too.
>>2761072You still dodged a bullet even if you were lacking tact, because who wants a screen-worshiping idiot? But if you say "it's for girls" you are putting her in the feminine position (as opposed to your masculine one; opposites attract), and also invalidating all the men she talks to on there as feminine. Boom, in one fell swoop you solved the "you should get facebook" issue and also set yourself up to get your dick sucked.
>>2761048Try not to dislocate her arm, yeah?
>>2761307>progressive left when we first met but these days she's almost as racist as me and her outdoor-loving environmentalism is a big part of what helped me push her in that direction.Mutual views such as these are great for avoiding marriage problems, especially when they are built in disdain for shitty cultural exploits. You have elevated her. The only way was th bring her over to your side, the other way around would have been you ending up as a wolf in sheep's clothing feeling like a neutered pussy. I admire your persistance.
>>2760937I met a lot more girls in the mountains than in the city. None of them were relationship material though.
>>2761010>98% of hiker girls are whoresYay!>and liberalsNoooo
>>2760955They do. But they are mostly for middle aged couples.
>>2761307>Mass migration is an ecological disasterThis is a lie.
>>2761393Yeah I tried to go to a hiking club. I'm in my late 30s and was the youngest person there by at least a decade
>>2761394No, he's absolutely right. Do you think some nigger consumes more resources living in Lagos or Sydney?
>>2761393>>2761408Old person mad that they have to hang out with other old people
>>2761487lol probably.When I was in my early 30’s I ran a backpacking MeetUp group for a few years. The reason we shut the group down was because an older couple couldn’t finish an 8 mile hike and had to be rescued via ATV. Grabted it’s a pretty tough 8 miles, but that was made abundantly clear in the description and pre-hike communications. It always was. It was a recurring issue. Not being rescued, but slightly overweight 30 or 40-something’s (or even older) thinking they can go from the couch to an arduous multi-day hike, having a terrible time, and never returning (or complaining later on the internet) were a common occurrence.That was about 10 years ago, and there’s no way I’d join a hiking group unless it was people who were physically on the same level as me. So it would have to be super casual, or the group members would have to be my age and get regular exercise or just be 20 years younger and a couch potato.
>>2761411But the over consumption in Sydney is just fine?
>>2761589Lmao, you fags can never argue in good faith. Obviously it's not fine, no one said it was, but bringing in more people so that more people can overconsume is worse than not letting those people in.
>>2760937Find hiking groups or groups that engage in outdoor activities.
>>2760937just get a girlfriend and ease her into it...dont go for a 7 day backpacking trip for the first one...go on a day trip hiking, then a month or so later you suggest an overnight thingmake sure shes comfortable af at first, then start leaving some of the comfort at home....just ease it in niggaalso, just get an instagram, add a few family members and put up a few pics of 'the outdoors' so she kinda already knows what you're into. you dont have to be actvie but if you dont have something, she's going to think you're a loser, i dont make the rules but they still exist brother
>>2761935It’s a lot like anal sex. If you just try to rush she’ll hate it and never want to try an again. But you can just do it with a guy and he’ll love it.
>>2761041No wonder inceldom is on rise."must have work experience to gain work experience" thing
>>2760937You can't, females, niggers, and pajeets ruined social interactions, they love gossip and elementary-school-phase arbiters. You must be on social media platforms to engage now. It's a law with them, even to the point where Arizona thought it would be a great idea to give free background-check information (SPI violations, whoa) to Tinder members.Privacy and unique meetings are over. It's formulaic recipes for algorithmic matching now. Females like it that way:, no magic, no grand design in the seemingly-random conversational seduction, just shopping.They just like to shop, that's why they're so into Only Fans and Amazon Prime. Bunch of simps bought into it and now here come the love bots and $5 upgrade money sinks.You have to sign up for popular social media platforms. Well, "popular"is fake, now, too... with fake reviews and purchased ad rotations and market-collusion monopoles like Google and so on. Damn man, I don't know.
>>2761935This is the correct answer.You have to know places that she would be comfortable with in regards to difficulty, and be prepared to compromise on things like break time, hiking pace, and general planning. Bringing a girlfriend hiking is not just a solo hike + girl. I love hiking in cool weather with a light rain. The sound of the raindrops pattering on my umbrella create a seriously comfy ASMR response. If I have autism, then that’s proof of it. But would a girl like a muddy, wet hike when the views are obscured and her ability to take selfies is hindered? Most wouldn’t.
foid (20) lurker here to weigh in on things>>2760991I don't have a social media so I see it as a W>>2761035correct>>2761487lol>>2761221its not creepy if you're chill abt it. a cute sweaty guy talking to me on the mountain is cool as long as he isn't using slurs and isn't touchy. keep your hands to yourself, offer water/snacks, and stop overthinking it>>2764136second this. I like fucked up trails in awful conditions but it leaves you looking less than camera ready. Start with 2 mile 0 grade hikes or even walking greenways to ease her into it. If she likes you she'll do what you want to do just to spend time with you. Easing her into it just means you wont get to do what you want to do for a while as she works up endurance + strength.finding gfs is hard but keep ur chins up and your dicks clean anons!
>>2764151W-will you be my girlfriend?
>>2764151didn't read.
>>2760937Join an outdoors club or go bouldering/climbing you'll find them there.
>>2761339anything that high isn't considered human
>>2761010So am I, what's the issue?>>2760937Google some of the local hobby groups, see where they meet up, and introduce yourself. You may not actually meet your future boo at these; just make friends, and don't limit yourself to any age or gender group either. You may find out that someone a few years older/younger has a sister/cousin/family friend/neighbor/classmate your age, and they may introduce you. Also, old people love meddling in their younger relatives' love lifes. Don't be surprised if you win over mom and dad, and they introduce you to daughter. Hell it makes the whole "meeting the parents" milestone much easier.Another piece of advice: be ready to take on hobbies you weren't even considering. You may be bringing a new lady into /out/ hobbies she wasn't interested in before, and every relationship is give and take. Getting her to pick up back country hiking may mean you pick up knitting; and you may actually enjoy that as well.
>>2764292>can't readFTFY
>>2761935>just get a girlfriend
>>2764507Big if true
>>2760937The first step is to go outdoors.
>>2764151Tits or gtfo. There arent any females on 4chinz
>>2764151Fuck your cute can we get a tummy pic. What is your preferred style, backpacking, camping, day hike, bushcraft, urban ex?
>>2764845Thats a man, anon
>>2764151>its not creepy if you're chill abt it. a cute sweaty guy talking to me on the mountain is cool as long as he isn't using slurs and isn't touchy. keep your hands to yourself, offer water/snacks, and stop overthinking itOK thanks femanon. That's solid advice and I'm glad you replied. I just want someone who is in love with nature as I am to be able to go on adventures with me. That's all I want in life
>>2761393This is every club or interest group in America. Nothing but old couples and single dudes who joined hoping there'd be girls.
>>2765136Those groups should be male only.
>>2765158There gay men focused one's for you too son.
>>2764151Post a single picture of yourself outdoors with a timestamp proving:>you’re a genetic woman>you actually go outsideAnd you’ll be crowned the Queen of /out/
>>2760982>>2761010Met a girl on the PCT. Can confirm both of these. Had fun, but definitely not wifey material.
>>2765124Even better.
How do I find an /out/doors gf as a blackanon? Black women aren’t interested in /out/ shit
>>2765396Have you tried covering yourself in cornstarch?
>>2760937Get an autistic girlfriend and once she imprints she will do everything with you.
>>2760937> 14ersAssuming you live in Colorado too, you don’t. My wife doesn’t do anything outdoors related, and it’s probably better that way.I either go solo or with a climbing partner, and as a result I get to do more gnarly shit than I ever would with her—like I climbed Wolf’s Head / Pingora two weeks ago, and The Casual Route on Longs before that.Then when I come down I have an exceptional amount of love for her and our children.
>>2765548Pic from the top of The Diamond on Longs.Way better to have done that with a friend than my wife.
>>2765548The one time I went /out/ with a woman in our team was the one time we had to turn back at the good bit that the whole trip was about.
>>2765396I've met some black women that were into /out/ shit. They grew up in areas that gave them exposure to cultures besides black culture, and had lots of non-black friends, so maybe that's why. Go look in places like that.
>>2765570Women really are a fucking meme
>>2765200>>you’re a genetic woman... Now I am curious how you would imagine a proof of this. Not even vulva pics would get accepted nowadays, because >obvious XY chromosomesAnd most people, unless they have chromosomal anomaly don't have their chromosomes noted in the medical documents. Do you have XY written there?
>>2765626It doesn’t even need to be nude. Things like head shape, arm length, and shoulder width are usually dead giveaways.
>>2765626Actually, even chromosomes wouldn't be "proof". It's possible to have hormonal disorders or other conditions that prevent expression of the chromosomal sex, causing your body to develop into the form of the other sex, or something intersex.It's a big part of why "liberals" push against rigid sex/gender boundaries, because in reality there are people whose bodies don't follow the simple 4th grade biology "rules" and slip into gaps. The world is a strange place.
>>2765689>It's a big part of why "liberals" push against rigid sex/gender boundaries, because in reality there are people whose bodies don't follow the simple 4th grade biology "rules" and slip into gaps.Which is, of course, a ridiculous argument. The overwhelming majority of people do fit neatly into either the male or female boxes. Those who do not are extremely rare (we're talking rates of around 1 in 100,000) and they have a congenital disorder. You don't rewrite the general definitions of a thing because of rare and pathological exceptions. Mammals are characterised by certain traits including mammary glands, a neocortex in the brain and hair or fur - you don't need to rewrite the definition of a mammal because some women can undergo a mastectomy, some people are exposed to mutagens as a foetus that prevent normal brain development or some people suffer from a disease which causes all their hair to fall out. Humans as a species have 46 chromosomes, this statement isn't any less valid because some people are born with Down syndrome. You write "rules" in inverted commas like the exceptions make it untrue but many rules have exceptions, they can still be perfectly valid as a general characterisation of the world.
>>2765626I had a friend that I thought might be a trap, since she was built like a 12 year old boy and had some guyish interests and mannerisms. The biggest thing early on that convinced me she was actually a girl was being with her at the pharmacy when she picked up her birth control pills, so those might be decent evidence, I don't think trans take anything similar. (Maybe I'm wrong but afaik they're kind of the opposite of the hormones they want.) Later on I saw her actual birth certificate and there was really no question after that obviously.
>>2765759It's not ridiculous. I agree with you that rules with exceptions are still perfectly valid as general characterizations of the world. But you run into problems when you move from general characterizations to specific policies.For example, deciding who is eligible to be on a woman's sport team. What if a person has XX chromosomes, but some rare disorder that causes them to have a more masculine physique and musculature? All of a sudden your general rule is not helpful anymore. They are, genetically, female, so should they be allowed on the team? Is it fair to tell them to join the male team, even if their body is more masculine than a typical woman's but not nearly as strong as a regular man's? Honestly, the whole concept is a little illogical, given that even within each sex there are ranges that impact performance, but that's a separate can of worms (e.g. tall women have an advantage over short women in basketball).Traditionally, we have just applied the sorts of general rules that you've mentioned, and they've been worked out culturally and in whatever context as appropriate. That's fine for most cases, as if someone outwardly looks feminine, no one will know what their internal biology is, so they can pass as a regular female. But once things progress to mandating privileges and memberships by sex, at a legislative level, those edge cases very much matter. You're going to see people in court, presenting all sorts of niche and incredibly rare situations, and decisions will have to be made. One can't just say "women can use X, men will get Y", because you're going to end up with those edge cases not knowing what to do, or feeling that they deserve either X or Y, and other people being mad because they disagree.
>>2765759>we're talking rates of around 1 in 100,000The most common type of hermaphrodite is closer to 1 in 10000. And why should someone be required to have a medical/hormonal/genetic condition to be allowed to not fit into the boxes?
>>2764151>as long as he isn't using slurshow does this come up in a chance meeting on a hike
>>2761312Average toilet brain bigotry. And you people ask where all the /out/ women are. You drive them away!
>>2761091lmao you dumbassgo to a ski townsee a raftermeet a thru hikergo to a hippy concert/out/ chicks are the only ones who do anything with their bodies and it shows
>>2765810stop jerking off in the ladies room.
>>2765945YWNBAW
>>2765827Well I never bothered to learn all of the Latin names for plants and animals.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_nigger_in_proper_names
>>2765827>how does this come up in a chance meeting on a hikeDepends on what mountain you're hiking up, I guess.
>>2765570See, that only happened because she wasn't your wife. If she was your wife, you could go home, beat her, and then next time she'd know not to do that.
>>2761221Protip: if you're hiking solo ask them to take a picture of you with your phone. You can usually gauge how willing they are to interact with you from this little "ask".
I met my wife in an outdoor club. There are a lot of older people in clubs, but young people also come and go. It doesn't have to be a hiking club btw. Look into rock climbing, caving, canyoneering. There's a lot of crossover.
>>2761312Cheers man. I can't imagine being with anyone else. Soulmates and all that. >>2765570Sorry to hear that, mate. Should've gone out with a qt tomboy who's desperate to impress. First time I went /out/ with my wife she insisted on a dead even split of packed gear despite the fact she's barely over half my weight and my pack was infinitely better built. I was expecting her to cry uncle within the first hour or at least ask to repack our gear but she made it through the whole trip without complaining once (even when I got us lost and we needed to backtrack up a ridge). I was super impressed. >>2765810>And why should someone be required to have a medical/hormonal/genetic condition to be allowed to not fit into the boxes?The fact that you even ask that question shows that you're fucked in the head.
>>2761221Why are hikers so afraid and anxious? I run into hikers and they're all shy and paranoid. I run into hunters and they invite me for some beer.
>>2764151I can't tell if you are a butt ugly woman or a tranny, no chance anyone is interested in you on the trail or elsewhere.
>>2764151You’re ugly as fuck, i can tell just from this pic. >as long as he isn’tFuck off you shouldn’t have any standards. You’re ugly as shit you should just let any guy on the trail touch your pussy. You aren’t attractive enough to have requirements of a man.
>>2760937Its more fun on your own anyways unless you get horny. This applies to life in general
>>2761589It is if you keep the population down
>>2766794Your negativity is very cringe.
>>2766794Oh look, an incel.
>>2766794She’s 20. All 20yo girls are hot, unless they’re fat.
>>2761339>>2765228I met a cutie hiker girl out in the wild recently, who honestly mogs me in terms of /out/ accomplishments by an overwhelming amount. She's summitted like 48/54 Colorado 14ers and then several others others, spends most of her spare time outdoors, etc. Incredibly friendly and charming. Got an impeccable ass too.All that said, after speaking to her for a while I also learned enough to write her off as qustionable partner material. This seems to be a conclusion a lot of us make, huh.
You don't need to find a hardcore /out/ gf. You need one who enjoys it and will share things but also leave you alone to hike 20 miles. I prefer outing alone and my wife comes for hikes on the weekend. My real girlfriend is the forest.
>>2760937I wouldn't know. I just bring my waifu pillow with me into the backcountry and that's good enough for me.
>>2766732>Why are the people with guns and knives less worried to run into strangers in the forest than the people without?
>>2760937>a girlfriend who is into the outdoors if I have no social mediasierra club hikes. a lot of other group hikes are lowkey like a walking speed date with a bunch of singles looking for someone, but they... are organized on social media soooo
>>2766974actually paying over 1k just to hike with a bunch of boomer/millennial liberals and being forced to walk slow with them. no.
>>2766794ok ur actually an incel for real and i hate that buzzword
mating call.
>>2767724i know multiple people who have met their spouse on sierra club hikes. just putting that information out there.
>Most people can't handle 10+ mile hikes or summit 14k ft mountains.most people unironically can tho.those 14ers in colorado are full of shlubby unathletic middle aged people and little kidssame with a lot of 10+ mile hiking trailsI am afriad you may not be the advanced outdoorsman you think you are OP
>>2760955climbing gyms and actually going /out/ (in normie locations) are good ways to find a girl. Its better if you arent alone though since they find that offputting>>2767749>those 14ers in colorado are full of shlubby unathletic middle aged people and little kidsCounterpoint: you will never see a schlubby unathletic middle age person at the summit. they always turn around before then
>>2761307Any esoteric advice on deprograming a girl? I know to>show empathy>make good arguments>be patient>not be a sperg>be unrelenting in your beliefs
>>2760937I went to some seminar for work and this hiking chick gave a talk (about her hiking adventures around the world). Every one of her episodes would be “I met this single guy on the trail from Australia or Canada blah blah and we got to talking and sharing food etc”. Seems the key is 1) be white and decently attractive 2) despite being outdoors look hygienic and not creepy rapey 3) and actually be /out/ and do stuff not post here and say you will and d) be friendly with everyone on the trail but cute girls and especially. One proviso is she apparently identifies as a lesbian but she was way too femme to be and all of her stories were about hanging out with single dudes so it’s probably was a gay trending thing.
>>2761589>leftist not moving the goal post once someone proved he was full of shit : challenge impossible
>>2768206>you will never see a schlubby unathletic middle age person at the summit
>>2768206>Its better if you arent alone though since they find that offputtingLmao this its like kryptonite even if they are alone themselves, weird.
>>2768271You took this picture yourself?
>>2768250Fuck her real good and isolate her from friends and family.
>>2768356>isolate her from friends and family.How do you do that without it backfiring?
>>2768272>Man in a group>Valuable resource for exploitation>Man alone>Dangerous violent murder rapistThis was the crux of the "man or bear" meme.
>>2768250>Any esoteric advice on deprograming a girl?Not really. Obviously I managed it with my wife but it's not like I used some secret technique to do so.You could chase up a copy of Aristotle's Rhetoric and work through that. As with any attempt at persuasion, you'll want to consider ethos, pathos and logos; ethos especially (although ethos in this context is obviously a fair ways from what Aristotle might've imagined). I worked part-time as a EMT back then as well as volunteering with the fire department and a local animal shelter, it's hard for people to make the usual 'evil nazi' condemnations when they know you saved someone's life a few days ago and you've got a foster dog gazing at you adoringly.Being able to overhead press the girl you're talking to helps too.
>>2769397Anon im looking for a path to do stuff like 'part time emt' and volunteering with the fire department. Where do i start?
>>2761010Conservative women aren't even about the ranch life. They're straight up on opiods, etc. You can find them in country bars tending their addiction, so just give them a date with basic camping and alcohol, but don't be surprised if they want to fucking peg you with a rubber horse cock.
I have an /out/ wife, we backpack and hike together. Even have a two-person sleeping bag for backcountry cuddles. She wasn't into it before we got together, other than having gone camping a few times as a child, but those experiences made her receptive.It's not that hard to get an /out/ gf, just bring it up early (like, before you're even "in" a relationship, just casual chat) and make sure they're receptive. Most people talk about their hobbies and interests before they start dating seriously. Back when I was still dating, I'd always mention backpacking and some trip I just went on, and I'd usually get one of two reactions - either "eww, you slept in a tent on the GROUND outside with the bugs and wild animals?!" or "that's really cool anon, take me sometime". Needless, I didn't give much attention to the former.As for where to find the latter - I think it helped that I live in the northwest near Idaho / Montana. So most people here go outside. There's not much else to do. I guess if you live in some major city or the Midwest / East Coast it might be more difficult. But if you live in the northwest away from major cities, pretty much everyone who isn't fat will at least _casually_ go outside. Getting them into the harder stuff isn't a big leap if you're willing to play "outfitter and guide" for a while.
>>2769413In my experience, conservative women aren't into the outdoors much, if at all. They usually opt into "OUTLAW COUNTREEEE" bullshit and think that listening to Nashville's pop music, wearing high heel boots, and a cowboy hat is the same as being a ranch hand. No surprise most of these women come from upper middle class suburbs.
I found mine in the zoology department at university, and if I got the wrong one that's on me because I had a pretty good selection. Have you tried not being a misogynist far-right anti-abortion chan-posting tradwife-seeking incel? For some unfathomable reason fit, adventurous, independent, capable outdoorsy women usually hate guys like that.
>>2769489>They usually opt into "OUTLAW COUNTREEEE" bullshit and think that listening to Nashville's pop music, wearing high heel boots, and a cowboy hat is the same as being a ranch hand.This whole aesthetic is honestly more NPC than other basic bitch stereotypes
>>2769402Really depends on your location. Just google it, reach out and start contacting whoever offers those services in your area.If you're decently fit and not a complete autist then it should be easy enough to get some sort of volunteer gig with the FD. They're not paying you so the bar to entry isn't that high. The issue is location - big cities are more likely to have purely full-time FDs with no scope for volunteers, as you get more rural the role of volunteers expands. I lived in a smallish city at the time and they had full-time, professional staff for general duties but an on-call volunteer roster if they needed extra bodies for natural disasters, major fires or other emergencies. We didn't get called out that often but we got put through some decent training in the meantime and it would've been a could way to transition into paid work with the department.As for the EMT work, my situation probably isn't that applicable to yours. I'm an overseas-trained doctor who moved to the US when I decided to do a PhD (and then stayed when I met my wife). The EMT work was just something I did on the side while getting my medical degree recognised. The only advice I'll give is that if you want to make this your career then get to paramedic as quickly as possible, a lot of the work you'll be doing as an EMR or EMT is pretty fucking boring. >>2769495>Have you tried not being a misogynist far-right anti-abortion chan-posting tradwife-seeking incel? For some unfathomable reason fit, adventurous, independent, capable outdoorsy women usually hate guys like that.Can't relate. I tick all those boxes except incel and I've never had trouble finding girls to go camping with.
>>2769495>BongEnjoy watching your family get raped by Muslims 3rd worlders.
>>2769771>BongWhat makes you say that?I assume it's the spelling of something he wrote but I don't see it.
>>2769495Left wing women are the same as right wing women in that they are looking for a confident, charismatic guy who is healthy and attractive. Those things come naturally if you are actually wanting to be trad and not just an incessant rageaholic pretending to have values you don't embrace. There is a reason that on the female oriented subreddits they constantly screech "don't date conservative men!" - it's because they are all tempted by masculine men
>>2769397>Not really. All the same you're advice is great. Like most of my problems, it goes back to not being charitable nor well-spoken. Thanks.
>>2760937A thing about females you shouldnt try and hit on them. If they are interested they will show interest in you first.
>>2769413no liest. works in a dive bar that's open until 5am in north florida
>>2769413>don't be surprised if they want to fucking peg you with a rubber horse cockTFW cursed to only meet liberal prudish girls who wouldn’t dream of pegging me with a rubber horse cock
>>2766794This gives me real incel vibes, and I say that as an actual incel myself.
>>2764151god you are uglyywnbaw
>>2760937>a girlfriend who is into the outdoorsWomen have no hobbies until a boyfriend gives them one
>>2768271Fat people who move around are unironically fit AF but carrying fat. Ever see a fat mans calves? Bone dinsity is top notch etc. Obviously they are also carrying fat around organs and this can complicate things.
>>2764151yeah thats a tranny
>>2760937You'll know because she won't be overweightEvery girl that I've dated that's not ghetto or overweight loves going outside
>>2771484Same. Ill take them to the woods to catch bugs or look at bunnies and get my dick sucked.
>>2761935>just get a girlfriend he said to a guyon 4chan
>>2771484The fatties I've dated enjoyed going outside - to a point. I tried to make more of our dates involve going to parks and hiking and stuff, but after the first mile they tend to want to go home, or drinking, or to dinner.I think with the last fat girl I dated I gained 15 pounds, and she lost that many while we were together.
>>2772064My ex was a damn enigma, had the lifestyle and diet of a fat chick but somehow managed to stay hot. I gained 90lbs in 5 years with her and have never gotten back down to what I was before. I tried to take her /out/ but we never got past spending day upon day shopping for /out/ gear that was "cute" enough for her and we never ended up going anywhere further out than paved walkways at a couple of national parks. It's weird too because her mom was based as fuck and nothing like her, really into /out/ shit and was also a former RX7 owner, a religious Top Gear fan, much more active in general and a better eater, and just generally way cooler than my ex. I wish I could've gone back in time and dated my ex's mom when she was my ex's age instead of my ex. At least I get some solace in seeing that she's FINALLY porked up on the rare occasions that I see photos of her.
>>2761010You said that as if that's a problem...?
>>2772073Strange. Every fat chick I know has a fat mom, and every thin woman has a thin mom, even when their lifestyles seem different. It seems obvious that exceptions must exist, but I'm still surprised.
>>2772211My ex was relatively thin, she just ate like a fat chick. Actually it's funny, I don't really know how to describe her build, she would've been average a few decades ago but nowadays average is fat as fuck. She was 5'5" and about 115lbs with big tits, and wore a small or medium depending on the garment, so I guess on the skinnier end these days but not '90s/'00s anorexic skinny.
>>2760937Have you tried looking outside? Just talking to people?Fucking retard, jesus christ what's wrong with you
>>2761010Anon Im already into hiker girls you don't have to sell me on them any further
>go normie camping with gf tomorrow >car is small>she is downstairs packing way too much stuff right now
>>2760937why do you virgins keep making those threads?Get a GF first.
>>2760955>>2761307Unironically this, Just start group outdoorsmaxxing:-Join local hiking clubs-Volunteer at community gardens-Go to hiking/bouldering gyms- Spend time on online outdoors forums and sites-On dating apps, Present yourself as an outdoorsy man looking for an outdoorsy girl.-Take survival or outdoors related classes, wilderness emt like surfing, snowboarding ,fishing, etc.-Search and RescueYou're asking how to FIND an outdoors girl, This is how you do it. Doing these things will put you in contextual situations were it's perfectly acceptable and expected to interact with them. I know for a fact you will meet women through volunteer work and climbing gyms.
>>2760991This might be the worst advice I’ve ever seen been given. The women who would dislike the idea of you not having social media are the exact type of women you don’t want. It’s the best modern day filter.
>>2772632How did it go? I make my gf carry the towel when we're backpacking so my cum doesn't get all over my quilt.
>>2760937Quality post
