Looking at getting a good, quality lighter for outdoor use. Are Zippos legit? Or is it all just branding?
>>2775451get a couple bics and youre golden
>>2775451Yes. Plan a long hike out into the wilderness and only take a Zippo. That might solve one of our moron shitposter problems.
I like lightersFirst thing I do when I get a new backpack is just sprinkling bic lighters in some of the pockets, but I always carry a "main" lighter
>>2775472YEEeeeeessssss!,,,,oncexplored miine using Bic,,,flame soweak?, flintstrike was bright?, just used the flint,,like a strobe,,flik flic flic flicflic,,,geto back of mine,,sitin darkness,,adjust sittin'WHAM! smashead on ceiling!, FLIC FLIC FLIC!!!
>>2775451this stuff is all you need>waterproof>refillable>easy to ignite (just press a button lol)>cannot be opened by accident (extra latch on the side)>strong blue flame that works in strong windalso>cheapgasoline lighters are just a consoomeme.
>>2775451Like the other anon said, I like just buying a few Bic lighters. They work just fine, it doesn't matter if they get lost, and you have backups.
>>2775451>Are Zippos legit?Zippos are great lights. Naphtha evaporating over time isn't great
>>2775745>>2775461I had a situation recently that changed my opinion on this, I had a clipper (not exactly a bic but in the same class and similar in design) I only had one in my fishing bag and I know I didn't use all the gas up. I pull it out and try to use it, the flint still makes sparks but all the gas is gone. I guess the gas lever got depressed in my bag and let all of the fuel out. It wasn't a terrible situation because I was only out for a day fishing but if I was banking on that lighter to light a fire on a cold night I'd have been miserable or dead. Anyone know where you can get some strike anywhere matches? Seems Amazon won't ship them cause, yknow, they might strike themselves en route or something
>>2775574Literal skinwalker post
>>2775785Two is one, and one is none. This is particularly true with fire-making tools. The smart individual always carries a backup. Such as a Zippo.(Love Clippers BTW)>strike anywhere matchesI think the match manufacturers are phasing them out due to fire safety concerns. I certainly can't get them anywhere here in Euroland due to how fussy the EU is with all things safety related. Especially fire safety.If you're feeling adventurous, maybe try this:https://youtu.be/4WPhJKF9qogAnd remember, it's on your head if you try this and burn your shit down. I never forced your hand. You can still walk away.
I always carry one butane lighter, one bic lighter and maybe a small pack of storm matches. the butane lighter doesnt have to be fancy, just make sure it's full, and you could double up on the bic if you want to be extra safe. keep them in a zip lock bag, even if they are in a dry bag just to make sure they stay dry. wont add any meaningful weight, unless you are doing ultralight weight or some shit.
>>2775451I have a "zippo" from aliexpress. They are branded "zorro" with a butane insert from the same brand. I use them everyday, and they feel good.I havent take them camping because they are kind of heavy for a lighter.
>>2775578>>strong blue flame that works in strong windonly guy who mentioned windthis is /out/ right?
I guess just keep a Ferro rod somewhere in case your bics failed
>>2775944its just baconrider
>>2776177I mean, I am not the only one who had to start a fire in the wind, right? RIGHT?
>>2775451Zippos are a meme. Like all gasoline lighters, they'll light up pretty reilable, but they're overpriced and lacking a lot of the features good gasoline lighters have. They're kinda like BIC is for butane lighters - costing 2-3 times as much, while doing half.If you want a good gasoline lighter, get an Imco. The old, WW1 type models (Junior or Triplex). Just as realiable as a Zippo, takes longer for the gasoline to evaporate since it has a proper, circular seal instead of a badly made rectangle, flame size can be adjusted by regulating air, and if you need to get to a hard o reach place (to light a wood stove, for example) you can pull out the cartridge (the tank / wick part - used to be rifle cartridges on the first models) and have the equivalent of a small candle or a "permanent" match.Only downside is that the brand has been sold to a Jaanese company a few years ago. Quality is still good, but the nicer models (with engravings, gems etc) don't get sold in the west.
>>2776146>I certainly can't get them anywhere here in Euroland due to how fussy the EU is with all things safety related.Gotta love when you amerimutts try to pretend your country isn't a dystopia because europe is supposedly even worse.You can buy strike anywhere matches pretty much anywhere in the EU that deals with outdoor stuff.One source (and yes, they also ship them - Germany isn't as cucked as the US):https://www.asmc.de/products/streichholzer-uberallanzunder-10-stk-1
>>2775578saw the shilling in the other thread now you sold me, where do I buy one?
>>2776223For some junk like that? Nearest gas station
>>2776223aliexpress lmao
>>2775451Zippos are the best lighter because they remain lit when you throw them.
>>2776371>using new lighter everytime you make dinnerbased arsonist
>>2776213>you amerimutts>clearly states he's in EUworld's least America-obsessed europoor
>>2776607>reading comprehension over 9000Whenever some guy on here claims he's in EU an can't do something because it's illegal, there's a 99% chance he's an American larper trying to blackpill eurobros. And generally, the thing that's supposedly illegal (here: strike anywhere matches) is perfectly legal and readily available, despite what burgers may think.
>>2776611>Whenever some guy on here claims he's in EU an can't do something because it's illegal, there's a 99% chance he's an American larper trying to blackpill eurobrosleast America-obsessed europoor x2
>>2775451What size tire should i use to do picrel
>>2776971700c if you dont have wimpy hands.
>>2776611mindbroken
>>2776612>Not wanting burgers to shit up boards is bad, mmmkay?
>>2777060>goes to american website<WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THOSE GUYS HERE!!!!!!maybe you should try that shit on weibo or whatever the chinks call it, i bet you'll a have better chance there
>>2777065>american websiteDidn't know we were still getting tourists. FYI, this is a mongolian basketweaving board that recently branched out into chinese comics. The only american thing on here are the BBC fetishists on /pol/.
>>2777089>The only american thing on here are the BBC fetishists on /pol/.
>>2776146>strike anywhere matchesI found a package of small boxes at a piggly wiggly for about $3.
>>2775578if you like zippos but still want the torch, they sell inserts. either single or double torch.
>>2777089No, this is a Japanese anime board. If you are not a weeb, get OUT.Also, bic lighters are absolute shit.
>>2777096Newfag #1>>2777614Newfag #2>bic lighters are absolute shitWell, at least you're not retarded, you just need to lurk moar.
>>2777632Newfag #3
>>2775578This is the way.
>>2777579I have the double torch. Works good, but sucks up the juice like a 3 dollar crack whore desperate for her next fix. The fuel tank is seriously too small, so don't rely on this as your only fire source. Otherwise good, and Zippo should have introduced this years ago. I put mine into a black ice case, looks stylish as fuck.
>>2775451Master firestarting or you will regret it.
I used to think edcing a zippo would be a good idea but turns out the gas leaks really fast and theres no way to stop them.Found this lighter, apparently really high quality called exotac titanlightIs this good or consoomer lighter
I've been using a SOTO Pocket Torch for a couple of years.The gas lasts ages and has great build quality.The extending barrel is ideal for lighting bbq and fires.The pic is from last weekend, I used it to light the lump wood in my new Sho B-6
Zippos are great lighters ruined by couple really fucking retarded design choices they could very easily fix. Mainly the tank being not sealed at all. It's kinda infuriating they refuse to do anything about it since they would be pretty bulletproof otherwise.
>>2777940Now THIS is glamping!
>>2775451Zippos are fantastic if you smoke, I've owned many and loved them all. I've found them subpar for starting fires. Matches all the way.
>>2775451can't go wrong with a couple of those scripto butane torches, water/windproofand cheap enough that if they get lost or fail, no big deal.zippos suck in the wind.
>>2777992>>2778014One thing almost no one talks about Zippos is the very iconic sound of them opening and closing. If you're trying to stay quiet for whatever reason, that sound is going to give you away pretty quick.
>>2775785>I guess the gas lever got depressed in my bag and let all of the fuel out.There are Bic lighter cases to prevent that. You could probably make one for a Clipper if they're not already sold.
>>2778040You can dampen the noise considerably by keeping both hands on it and opening it slowly. Sparking a lighter isn't a silent operation, anyway.
Lol, I'm on vacation in France and just found this for literally half the price of just the fuel and flints I would pay back home, but a full kit with a lighter too. Lmao, I guess I can always use another
>>2777710Oldtroon #4
>>2778167Never understood why the fuck would anyone buy a zippo after i learned about how zippos leak fuel even if closed
>>2777896So does nobody have an opinion on this lighter. Thought it was popular
>>2778426Lol
>>2778427I was looking for something very similar cuz I thought it looked handy and kinda cool. Then I realized gasoline lighters are just not worth the trouble with the evaporating fuel (the screw lid dampens it a bit, but not totally).
>>2778427i'd get one but not for the price they're asking$30 at most but not $60+
>>2778462Damn i was hoping the o ring would stop the fuel evaporation
>>2778533Put more silicone grease on both the O ring and the threads
>>2775472does anyone have a line on where to buy charrope lighters such as the one in the center of this image? All I've been able to find is a couple that seem very cheap and shitty... read that they're abundant in Spain but can't figure anywhere to order them from there
>>2777940How does that Sho compare to other wood stoves? I'm looking at getting something small and lightweight.
>>2778535that's what your mom said
>>2778535this won't solve it. even with a 100% tightness you still have a headspace where the fuel will evaporate into and is lost once you open it.
>>2776146yes you can get them in Europe, called "Cowboy Matches"
>>2778591I havent seen them in decades, and it doesn't matter anyway, because unless you have a physical shop to go to, ypu can't have it shipped with the post anyway
>>2775472you stole my fucking bic man ive been searching everywhere fu
that reminds me, I once in a dream saw something called a "Siemens match". Pic related, drew that right after waking up so I'd remember. It was basically just two matches tied together with string, they were sold that way. You'd strike the thin red head which was a normal match, and then the heat of that would set off the black one. the black one was extremely powerful (for a short duration ofc), burning even in storm and underwater. pretty sure it also slightly threw sparks.>>2778685https://www.livingactive.de/mil-tec-ueberallzuender-cowboy-matchesthey have it in stock and I don't see anything indicating they won't ship. pretty expensive though
>>2778715You might be interested in the "super match," which is essentially a few stormproof matches bound together in a candle:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om6fuIhERYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQ4Lkv0cYk
>>2775451Any recommendations for decent, waterproof match cases?
>>2778426Because I have more uses for naptha than I do butane, so I always have it on hand, and I'm not an effeminate zoomer with 46 self-diagnosed mental disorders that thinks they need to min/max certain parts of their life.
What's the shelf life of Zippo lighter fuel?
>>2778927Do you mean bottles? I have tins that are years old that don't show any signs of the stuff having evaporated. But once you pour the stuff into the lighter, you have anywhere between 1-2 weeks.
>>2778426>>2777992You can mitigate this issue by doing pic related: Wrap your Zippo into a plastic bag. Make the bundle reasonably tight, so it becomes air gapped. I've been doing this for years now, 5-6 weeks of operational time guaranteed every time if you do this properly instead of half-assing it. As an added bonus, the Zippo is also now rain resistant.TLDR: That's a Zippo in a plastic bag.
>>2778896Empty medicine/pill bottles wrapped in plastic.
>>2775472>>2776211The Imco Triplex sounds pretty cool.Any recommendations for a tiny pouch it fits in well?
>>2779042There's no need for a pouch.It has a small loop for a lanyard in the back, where I just put a piece of trap cord through that I knotted into a loop. That goes through a belt loop, with the lighter going through the loop again (cow's hitch, basically) and then I stick the lighter into my pocket.But I guess some small multitool pouch would do. The leatherman wave is about the same width and depth and just slightly longer, for example.
>>2778685>ypu can't have it shipped with the postHow many people need to prove you wrong before you stop claiming that? I'm starting to think that paranoid "It's de americainns" anon might be onto something.
>>2778579It's solidly built, the stainless is heavy, around 600g. It packs down to only 2cm thick which is a nice plus for packing away.There is a titanium version that's about £200, the stainless one, I imported from amazon.jp for £82 (only took 3 days via DHL too!). I got a second different grill top for the with it. I could of got it with 1 grill top from amazon.uk for £79, but both were posted from Japan.It's not very big if you plan to cook for more than one person youll have to cook in batches.I'll be 99% of the time be using lump wood in it. An alcohol stove the rest of the time.If you want to use collected wood you might want to look for a wood gas stove as it'll be more effective.I've only used it twice and am very happy with it. The pic is what it's pretty much replacing, the cheap £10 stove off Ali express and boundless voyage Ti mesh grill.
>>2776210>>2776177skill issue, just block the wind from your lighter. Besides, what situation are you in where you're starting a fire that's directly exposed to wind? We're talking campfires not lighting a smoko
>>2776146Tried this and blew my hand off, please post your name and address so my lawyers can get in touch
>>2779073>How many people need to prove you wrongBruh, I can't even get Deodorant, spraypaint, anything pressureized, anything flamable, even fucking normal matches delivered by post, surprised I can even get god damn candles, not even sure I can get BIC lighters by post for fuck sake
>>2779077Do your recommend any other wood stoves? I see a lot of people using lixada titanium wood stoves.
>>2778942Yeah just carry flint and steel at this point lmao
>>2779186Kek, I just googled to find out if there's any country in europe that actually has those restrictions you describe, because I know for a fact that none of the Germanic or Scandi countries do, and I'm pretty sure Poland and Czech republic don't, either.Doesn't matter what language I use, the only restrictions that pop up are for the United States Postal Service. Sure you're not a burger?
>>2779310>the only restrictions that pop up are for the United States Postal ServiceWe can get those things by mail, the box usually just needs a "limited quantities" label (pic related) and in certain cases a specific HAZMAT label. Everything from ammunition to spray paint to lithium batteries shows up in a box with this label. https://www.uspsdelivers.com/hazmat-shipping-safety/>Sure you're not a burger?"By post" isn't something a typical American would say in my experience.
>>2779310>I know for a fact that none of the Germanic or Scandi countries do>Sure you're not a burger?Ja, jeg er ret sikker på at jeg ikke er en hamburger, er du sikke på du er god til at bruge en internet søgemaskine? Jeg er født og bor i Danmark(I am sure that I am not a burger, are you sure you know how to use Google? I was born in, and live in Denmark)
>>2779299Your precious flint and steel produces a puny little spark that is hard to produce and use efficiently. My Zippo produces actual fire in a compact, reliable, easy-to-use form. And even after the fuel runs out, it can still spark with the flint. You, sir, are full of shit.
>>2775451CountyComm is a somewhat obscure website that manufactures about 75% of the products they sell. They sell several waterproof lighters. I have two of their titanium lighters and they work extremely well and come with replacement flint and tinder.
>>2779443Yeah bro just carry around a huge fucking hunk of metal wrapped with quarter inch plastic wrapping.
>>2779523>Yeah bro just carry around a huge fucking hunk of metalI do so with ease and comfort, because I'm not a little bitch boy faggot. What are you, a fucking pencil neck? Put down that Playstation controller and try working out a bit.Bitch.
>>2775451They make some sealed lighter fluid containers that are made for going on a keychain, I think they're called "peanuts" or something? "Keychain lighter fluid container" probably gets results on a web search.I would personally get one of those inserts that make the Zippo a butane lighter or airtight. Alternatively you could just always have a bottle of lighter fluid on hand; I have one cheap Ronsonol bottle that I've been using for years, but I hardly ever need fire or lighter fluid. Protip: Ronsonol is owned by Zippo, the fluids are the exact same, except Zippo bottles are like twice the price for 2/3rds the volume.
>>2775472I've always wanted one of those rope lighters. How well does it work?
>>2779656I can curl 35 pound dumbbell.Im not a smoker so i dont need a phone size lighter in my pocket.Just something to use in emergency
>>2779072How well does that sliding flame cover hold in place over time? I watched some videos and it looks very loose there.
Zippo is a fashion lighterBic is a survival tool
>>2779913Zippo: rugged, reliable, windproof, lasts foreverBic: unreliable, fragile, gets blown out, disposable garbage
Alright. I bought the fucking light. I'll post wether I like it or not
Anyone else have an unused bic in their car become locked up when you actually try to use it?
>>2780126post price tag
>>2780141yea, Bics seize up pretty easy, might just be my imagination, but removing the child safety seems to help
>>2780141Probably the temperature fluctuation/humidity of the car. I've found 5 plus year old Bics in my couch that work like new>>2779972Zippo wicks can fray and get caught in the wheel which is a real pain to unstick, not to mention you're fighting evaporation lmao. They do smell amazing though
>>2780211>>2780232I have some Ronson (I think) bic equivalent lighters that I got to stash in my old truck and emergency bag. Well over 10 years old in the same conditions, work perfectly. You can also turn the flame up twice the size of a bic. Only problem is actually finding a place that sells them.
>>2780232>Zippo wicks can fray and get caught in the wheel which is a real pain to unstickAfter 30 years of having owned and used a grand total of 3 genuine Zippos and 2 chinese fakes, nothing like this has ever happened to me. Not even the chinese bootleg lighters have exhibited this sort of behavior. What the hell do you guys do to your lighters to mess them up like this?
Everyone suggesting anything other than a bog standard mini Bic from a gas station is a full on backyard no-/out/ing poser.>oh a zippoe makes a cool clinking sound when you flip it>here this one lighter has a big plastic casing and a push-button cover>mine does like a big jetflame!Posers allStep 1: go to a gas station with $2 in your pocketStep 2: buy 2 mini size Bic lighters, it'll be like $2Step 3: put them in your pack and go /out/You light fires with them just fine. You can light a pipe. You can light a doobie. You can burn bugs. All these things you can do just fine and dandy. One of them goes out of juice and won't light? Chuck it in a creek and dip out Bic #2 and go right on ahead.Next gas station station you pass remember to top off your supply.
>>2780210Everything you see on screen is 100 bucks
>>2780250>Bic™>it HAS to be Bic™ or you're not a real man!!!Buy an ad.
>>2778427Looks like an overpriced peanut lighter. They're handy as a backup but a little awkward to use as a main source of fire.
>>2780126>>2780356Too late already bought it with repair kit
>>2778563Mine came in spanish packaging, but I just bought it on amazon.>>2778713>you stole my fucking bic manNuh uuuhh!>>2779042No idea about a pouch, only tobacco i smoke is pipe, hence the IM Cirona "old boy" but because you can take out the cylinder of the triplex it works well as a pipe lighter too, funny, one of my friends found his, pristine, original Austrian made, but he wouldn't sell it to me, bastard.>>2779720How well does it work? Pretty well, nothing to go wrong really, unless you run out of flint, not ideal for campfires unless you can make really thin feathersticks or have other fine material like cattail, punkwood or something like that, I havnt tried lighting my trangia or a gas burner with it yet, but I assume it would work, probably super annoying on the trangia,Major down side is that it makes your pocket pretty dirty with the soot, but, when something like a zippo says it's "windproof" this lighter actually is, because wind just makes it glow hotter. And, it's just neat
Every single time I've tried to use a zippo it has been empty. I'm a sucker for made-in-murrica and really want to like it but the evaporation problem immediately makes the zippo worse than useless. Worse because you will think you have a lighter and won't bother bringing some other firemaking tool, when you actually have a useless metal box. bic is good because it doesn't need adjustment. But those cheap gas station ones are good too because you can crank the flame up big or lower it down depending on what you're doing.
>>2780551Just get the butane zippo insert or the soft/jet flame combo from I think thunder someone. It's what I did for my zippo. Knock offs also exist but are meh
>>2779431So you're not a beef patty then, just retarded? Anyways, here ya go, buddy:https://wolftac.dk/produkter/brands/strike-anywhere-cowboy-matches-100/You can buy them online and get them shipped to you. Because we're not some americanized dystopia (yet).
>>2780263This.Bics are crap. The buttons are too soft, meaning they'll empty out in your pockets if you're not careful (not as quickly as a zippo will, but almost), you can't refill them, and they're about twice as expensive as much better chinesium lighters (with stiffer buttons, refillable, and often transparent so you can see how much fuel is left).I'm sticking with my gasoline lighter anyways, though. That thing's just way more reliable, especially in cold weather.
>>2780578>place order>delivery in blah blah blah business days>doesn't show up>wait a couple more days>get letter " sorry, what you have ordered couldn't be transported by our postal service">item shipped back to sendervery cool
>>2777579>>2777800Interesting, as I've got my dad's 1959 Zippo but never use it, as lighter fluid is a hassle.Though Zippos do have an advantage in a zombiepocalypse disaster situation, as don't blow out easy and you can use gasoline.
>>2780263>>2780579>much better chinesium lightersGeneral Tso, please. I'm a 56 year old pack-a-day smoker and Chinese lighters are absolute shit, I've literally (and I'm not being ironic) NEVER had one run out of fuel, they always break long before that.Bic lighters are the only sensible choice; cheep and reliable. But a Zippo and cigarette case are nice if you're stepping out for the night.
>>2780541>Chairman Mao lighterlol, where did you get that?
>>2780722>where did you get that?Been places, done things. China around 1992
>>2780641>Company offers strike anywhere matches>also offers postal shipping>postal company has no regulations against shipping matches>"I CAN'T ORDER MATCHES!!! EU BAAAAD!!1!"Still not sure if you're larping, trying to make up blackpills, or just plain retarded.
>>2780738>EU badnever said that, just that i cant have matches, filled lighters, spray-paint, deodorant and other items with pressure/flammable by normal post.
>>2777579Zippo's butane inserts are chink-made garbage desu
>>2776971Oh man, what a cope. Hmm, I'll just wrap it in thick rubber so that it will actually work when I need it.
>>2778916Nigger preferring a lighter that doesn't leak fuel all over the place and becomes a hassle that only fat basement dwellers appreciate isn't a mental illness. It's just common sense.If I can buy 5 cheap ass bic lighters for a buck and they're air tight unless I stomp on them, I'm picking that over the millennial masculinity crutch (zippo).
>>2779656I can smell the dorito dust coming off you through my monitor
>>2781988man, you are so cool for buying garbage instead of buying something you can maintain, service and use for LITERAL decades, i really respect you opinion and think you are totally right! we need more plastic and cheaply made crap!
>>2775451I have a cigar box full of antique lighters. They’re pretty cool. I used to collect them as a kid and my grandfather had a bunch so he gave them to me. Every now and again I’ll buy a new one, usually a zippo. Sometimes I’ll give them custom paint jobs. I don’t actually use them I just like them. Thinking of quitting vaping and switching to ciggies and cigars though so that may change
>>2781992>zippo lighter>not cheaply made crapLolI can buy an aluminum lighter for a few bucks and it won't leak fluid like a fucking geriatric lmao
>>2781989I don't eat Doritos, because they taste like shit. And my point stands: If a fucking Zippo lighter of all things is too heavy for you to carry, you're a limp-wristed fairy who needs to man up and hit the gym.
They're pretty good
>>2776211where can you buy them new?
Thoughts on "permanent match" style lighters?
>>2782280amazon
Camping. Used the soto again
>>2779443But it's not compact, reliable or easy to use if you have to wrap it into a plastic bag in order to make it usable. It just isn't. It's a flashy way to light your cigarettes and a fashion piece if anything. So many cheaper alternatives are so much better at actually lighting things reliably that it's seriously infuriating how shit the zippo really is. I have a small imco lighter for example that I've been carrying around for about a month since the last time I filled it up and it's still going strong, and the tank isn't even half the size of a zippo.
>>2782331>CampingITYM Glamping HTH HAND
>>2782438Skill issue. I wrap the lighter in such a way that when I take it out of my pocket, I just need to grab the baggy by the lip, and then let it drop from my hand. The whole package unfurls itself trough sheer force of gravity very quickly, and then I just need to reach into the bag and bring out the lighter. There, deployed. Takes all of three-to-four seconds. The only part that's a slight hassle is re-wrapping the Zippo after starting whatever fires I need, but I've gotten better at that too and have managed to shave off seconds from that process trough practice. I will keep doing this, because like stated earlier, the plastic wrap around the lighter is also an additional layer of protection against water, and being able to use the Zippo 6 weeks instead of 2 with a single top up brings me savings in lighter fluid, and actually makes it worth it to bring the lighter with me to /out/, since I now know I can rely on it longer.>cheaper alternativesI actually do enjoy those chink shit torches because of the 1300 C turbo flame, but they're brittle plastic by way of being chink shit, and I don't expect any of the ones I own now to be working 30 years from now. Unlike my first Zippo from 1994, which still sings and dances and burns shit up like a motherfucker. That lighter is now probably older than most users here. And probably in better shape too.>imco lighterI inherited an Imco from my late gramps. He used it so hard, it's useless to me because the flint tube has become bent so badly the flint no longer sparks because it always becomes dislodged by the motion of the flint wheel trying to scrape it. Imcos, fine as they are, are built more complicated, making them more likely to mechanically fail vs. the simpler Zippo.
>>2782509>oh, i need a light>lighter is taking more pocket real-estate than a samsung s24 ultra>grabs a big ass plastic bag>roll it to unwrap>takes 15 seconds>rolls down too fast>drops light>lighter breaks
>>2780250don't buy bicsbuy the refillable clippersthey are way cheaper and the entire wheel/flint mechanism can be removed and used separately so you can make sparks without wasting gas
>>2782316not very permanent as they depend on the internal fuel
>>2782627All right, you're just being a retard now.
>>2780126It's here
>>2782632>the entire wheel/flint mechanism can be removed and used separately so you can make sparks without wasting gasWhen would you ever need to do this
>>2782841nice, make sure to post some reviews
>>2775451Dude From my experience, Zippo's are super cool but are really high maintenance when it comes to having to refill. it takes about 3 days for the lighter fluid to evaporate from your Zippo. literally a bic lighter is not a meme, its the best and you can always forget about it too.
>>2782632it pulls out to pack joints and blunts not for survival purposes