What is the worst piece of gear you've seen?
>>2783420Worst shelter, insofar as ones that are often shilled. Heavy for the price and size, uses 16 stakes, doesn’t have a vestibule, ultra deep bathtub floor and close fitting fly result in piss poor ventilation, and it’s too short for an adult man to sit up in.
>>2783420fucking Sporks
>>2783500I found this one works better
>>2783502drinkin sugar wash from mine, works like a charm
>>2783503
>>2783503>drinking out of plastic garbage
>>2783510>plastic is le bad meme epic updootStop being reddit and starting macroplastic-maxxingIt's lighter then metalMore durablePrevents autismWon't make you gay (like aluminum)Attracs women and is 100% effective against grizzly bears
>>2783500Did you use the wrong picture? Those are goofy looking but functional. Sporks are pretty terrible, being a shitty spoon and a shitty fork at the same time.
>>2783500heh, i had the titanium version of this, got it as a gift, now it at the bottom of the ocean, dont try to eat cereal while kayaking, its a bad idea
>>2783501Yes, but same issue. I don't want to hold something that I put in my mouth to eat with. I've got sweat, insect repellent, fish slime, snot, or who knows what on my hands when camping. Picrel is what I use.>>2783513Wrong name, I guess. I hate the double-ended ones more than the faulty spoon version.
'Mothtech' Pre holey cotton t-shirt apparently for trail running at the low low price of 130$ burgerbux.
>>2783604I looked that up thinking it was a shit post.
>>2783517These are great. They're useless for 90% of out though.
>>2783420Probably that spandex "technical" trash boomers and retards think is the gold standard of hiking gear. Not pleasant to see their hideous bodies in full-body overpriced pantyhose. I'll spare you the picture. >>2783604HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2783500>>2783501>>2783572Some ancient wisdom I heard:>if you can eat it with a fork, you can eat it with a spoonJust carry a spoon and a knife.
>>2783723Try eating spaghetti with a spoon...
>>2783760Just break it up before cooking. You're gonna have to if you're using a backpacking pot anyway. Or just use penne instead.
>>2783723If you can eat it with a spoon, you can eat it with chopsticks.Just make chopsticks when you want to eat.
>>2783767That wisdom does not seem very ancient because soup exists.
>>2783770if your soup is in a bowl, why not just slurp from the bowl? we are getting into Diogenes territory here
>>2783770Drink the soup, pick solid chunks out with the chopsticks, carry only your beltknife.
>>2783723Pretty tough to hold a steak in place with a spoon.
>>2783770>has never had phoThere are literally a billion poor people who eat nothing but soup every day and eat it with chopsticks
>>2783819Why?
I love my spork so much I use it at home
>>2783820I've never had pho served without a soup spoon. Otherwise you don't get any of that heavenly broth
>>2783820Han Chinese and the Japanese use chopsticks. Pretty much everyone else in Asia uses spoons and forks.And no, soup is not a standard poor chinese meal.
>>2783853Uhh… just drink from the bowl? I mean, I’m pretty stupid, but I think that’s an easy problem to solve. >>2783879Oh so just 1.6 billion people who figured out how to eat soup without a spoon. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>2783822IT JUST IS, OKAY??!
>>2783723Whoever said that is roasting you
>>2783881You know I have always assumed this was considered impolite but I just looked it up and apparently Vietnamese people don't really give a fuck about picking up the bowl. So I guess I'm the retard. Can't speak for other Asian culture though
>>2783773That's just drinking a savory tea then following it with soggy noodles or potatoes. I want a balanced spoonful of solids and liquids.
>>2783500Behold, this piece of technology is useless as both!
>>2783962>American ingenuity
>>2783502The opening on these pisses me off. It's fucking useless on the move. You still get a wet face half the time even when you're standing still to drink from it.
>>2783980>t.
>>2783499what's wrong with it? As long as weight isn't an issue it seems like a good way to keep your torches and phone charged. I was thinking of getting one to keep in my canoe.
>>2783512Who's paying you to post retarded gibberish?
>>2783420Waders for fishing. If you fall over and they fill with water they’re a death trap.
>>2783980>The opening on these pisses me off. I wouldn't take anything else in the winter.>It's fucking useless on the move.Stopping to take a drink isn't hard.>You still get a wet face half the time even when you're standing still to drink from it.Do you have palsy or something?
>>2783881Are you mentally impaired?
>>2783879Viets also use chops. I guess Koreans too but never been there.They're not exclusively using chopsticks...>soup isn't a poor mealIts the simplest dish to make I think it's pretty ubiquitous.Frankly I'm having a hard time keeping up with this argument, its possibly the dumbest one I've ever seen. Real achievement guys.>>2783949Viets aren't that weird, just take your shoes off and don't come by if you're pregnant on Tet...
>>2783420The Bitty Big Q folding grill. Made by some nerd on a computer who's never used the prototypes. It's super intricate, fragile, and gets gunked up with soot and grease and bbq sauce so that by the 2nd or 3rd use it doesn't fold together anymore. Perfect example of the KISS principle.
>>2784148retard
>>2783420Not bait and not actually "the worst piece of gear" I've seen, but genuinely curious- Why the fuck do these get dickridden so hard? Huge plastic foam cup monstrosity seems worse in almost every way than just having a small pot that you can nest your entire stove setup inside of.
>>2784201I'll give it this, it is very efficient and good in colder temps. Still use mine sometimes in the shoulder season if it'll be around freezing
>>2784201When it comes to canister backpacking stoves, there are really only two specs most people look at: weight and boil time. If all you’re doing is boiling water, and are of the opinion that weight doesn’t matter, then that just leaves boil time. So why wouldn’t you use one?
>>2784192Fuck off, if you fall over wearing them they fill with water. Ever tried taking off gumboots full of water? Now put those boots up to your chest. Jump in a swift river.
>>2783420probably people buying 300 dollar fixed blade knives only to make feather sticks with em.
>>2783502Yup. Absurdly heavy and huge for what it is, and very inconvenient to actually use. You are better off with a water bottle from the grocery store for 1/10th the price.
>>2784201You get boiling water in like 60 seconds after lighting the flame and you can grab and pour it way easier than a pot. You don't notice this benefit all that much if you're hiking solo, but it makes group dinner and breakfast ready WAY faster because of the time saved boiling. It's so fast only one person in the group needs to bring a stove.
>>2784201retard.
>>2784201its nice because it packs so small but i mainly only use mine during summer monthsday long bike excursion, mushroom or berry picking or just little wandering around and that thing is your best friend to cook a quick tea and noodles
>>2783604>Get a bunch of cheap Chinese shirts printed>Take them to the range and blast them with my shotgun>Sell them to retards at stupid markupFuck, why couldn't I come up with that?
>>2784521Found the jetbrainlet
>>2784201They pack small but aren't the lightest and only good for boiling water. I use one (I traded for it) just to boil quinoa and some kind of indian packet which it can just about handle without burning everything. The trick is to cook it in the packet in the boiling water. Now that I have a titanium pot I'll probably never use it again, though. It also has a bad habit of turning itself off.
>>2784201Jetboil is the worst heat exchanger stove out there. They suck if there's any wind and it is neither the lightest nor the fastest option. Get a Soto Windmaster stove with an Olicamp XTS pot.
>>2783723You can eat everything with a spoon. In OSUT (basic) my drill sgt. made us use only an MRE spoon for every meal the entire 16 weeks. Was annoying at first but quickly got proficient at it. Now when I go /out/ I just bring a long spoon and a knife. It really is that simple.
>>2784201I really want one of these, but the single use nature of it just bugs me a bit. I also already have a stove that I can use for more things than just boiling water.
>>2783440I use this lmao. At 6 feet tall after hiking for 12 hours sometimes my arms lock and then cramp up as I'm trying to shimmy into it. Still, I've never had a leak and I've ever had an issue with ventilation. Getting out of it to piss in the middle of the night is god awful but I use it for one reason, stealth, my entire setup is based around stealth.
>>2785955Keep using it and its failures will become obvious. The people shilling this trash haven’t used it much, which is why we see it in “survivalist” forums. >I’ve never had ventilation issuesThat’s because you’ve only used it a few times. This isn’t an issue of having to experience something first hand. We can all look at it and see that it’s seriously lacking in ventilation.
>>2785966I think it's more because I'm australian and we don't get the humidity.
>>2783572Enter, the master race of spoons.
>>2783420The meme twig snapper someone posted a few months ago
>>2785955>Getting out of it to piss in the middle of the night is god awfulempty plastic bottles are extremely light
>>2784186Most retarded design ITT
>>2785955
>>2785841This seems like a reasonable deal. What other uses are you wanting out of a camp stove besides boiling water?
>>2784120Weight is an issue. Bulk is an issue. Pain in the ass to protect from wind. The sensitive electronics are an issue. Too many moving parts. Gets extremely dirty from soot. Tedious and time-consuming to fuel and maintain for two whole hours just to get a single cell phone charge. Even when combined, a titanium pot, camp stove, isopro fuel can, folding solar panel, and battery bank would be more compact, durable, and efficient.
>>2787533Full ones are also very warm.
>>2783502What's wrong with these? These were all the rage in highschool in late 90s to late 2000s. Its just a super hard plastic water bottle.>>2783510
>>2788827 When talking about the single use I was talking about the jetboil. I was glancing at one at an REI and I couldn't figure out if I could use it with a skillet like I can my half priced soto, which I've come to love.
>>2788856There's only a handful of jetboils that come with a pot support that allow using a skillet, otherwise it costs extra to get one.When I bought the jetboil minimo it came with a pot support but I was after that specific stove anyway for its ability to control the heat output, burnt meals ruin my camping experience.Most jetboil products are a meme if all you wanna do is boil water, but the ones that can cook a variety of stuff really excel at it imo
>>2788828It would be better to just carry the same weight in powerbanks in all cases.
>>2783697the first time you ever bushwhack through sticker bushes you immediately understand the value of spandex and tight fitting clothing in some situations.its over-used though. miserable and sweaty when you're just on a casual manicured trail stroll.
>>2789073I do exactly that and such clothing would be ripped to shreds after ten meters, bubba. Spandex clothing was invented for the sole purpose of embarrassing gullible people, allowing us stallions to set the wheat from the chaff.
>>2783505>wow big vibes and mood! yasss slay queen! he's just like me haha so relatable, he drinks out of a brand name bottle that I like hehe!Are there really people like this in real life?
>>2789132First time witnessing normalfag internet eh?
>>2789127like most of the children on here you speak from very little experience. chances are you live some place with no real /out/ and you've never gone off trail in old growth before once in your life.
>>2789073I just use my knife to clear a path through thorns and beech and shit like that. One of many reasons I prefer a larger knife with some heft to it instead of some girly man "bushcraft knife".
>>2789166i mean the kind of shit you need a machete or kukri for. its all very very dense old growth forest where i live. i realize that's not the case for the majority of anons on here though. close fitting clothes are invaluable when you're traversing thick undergrowth, sticker bushes and the sort. spandex and also tailoring details like knee darts go a long way.spandex is also invaluable for climbing and scrambles, rocky terrain etc.i prefer oldschool wider fitting hiking clothes when i'm doing stuff that doesn't require mobility or close fitting clothes because they're airy but there's situations the spandex is what you want.
>>2789149Never used your shitty skin tight plastic bubba, enjoy dressing like a faggot while trying to pick fights on 4chuds while I enjoy our real great outdoors as a normal man. You ragged ass imbeciles are tiresome.
>>2789127My spandex pants are made of a fiber optic technology that hug the flesh on my unique shape. They circulate air around my genitals and they wick the sweat off my balls.
>>2789194its really wild what greenhorn little kids like you get away with saying on this board since its anonymous. your post oozes inexperienced little boy.
>>2783440Seconded. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was reasonably priced. Muh durability just means it’s made from plain Jane off the shelf 210 pu-coated polyester. 1.9oz nylon is roughly $8/yd while 210 pu-poly is like $11.
>>2789196The way you express yourself makes you look very insecure.
>>2789178Spandex is retarded. Maximum freedom of motion just wear suspenders with the front clips attached to the corners of your front pockets, and kneepads to keep the thighs bloused up. You can instantly do a split like that and climb anything with ease and not look nearly as gay as your ballerina costume.
>>2789178If you're not using a torch to control bramble you're a drooling moron
>>2783500Anything you might need a spoon for, you could just drink out of the bowl or pot. You can eat anything with just a knife as long as you're not retarded (or drunk)
>>2789217nah i just think its hilarious that anonymity lets you deceive people into thinking you have any clue what you're doing. a lot of what you're posting would get laughed out on all the other message boards, you know the ones where you can look up someone's profile and see if they actually do the shit they larp about or not.>>2789266if you don't understand the value of not snagging things off trail i really dunno what to say other than really low spacial iq moment.
>>2789266climbing its not as necessary and there's alternatives though, fair. not for bushwhacking though. baggy clothes = walk home with your ass hanging out because your pants tore open. then learn the hard way i'm right.
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>>2789321Bubba people that do sport have high testosterone which allows them not to dress like women and accept that people might disagree with them. You wasted money, dressed like a woman and now are throwing a tantrum because we told you dun goofed. Just let it go, this is a golden life lesson you will treasure and thank me for when you get older.
>>2789321Wearing spandex isn't going to help you not get snagged, it will still just get torn up by thorns. If you're even considering something like that then you just need a good fixed blade knife or machete instead. A knife even just 10 ounces with a 7" blade like a Kabar can cut branches and brush pretty well with a low choke grip and a good edge. The few millimeters of circumference saved by going to spandex from normal trousers won't accomplish shit in thick growth and you're clearly going by your imagination rather than experience.
