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Why aren't you an individualist? Nationalism is for losers who need to adopt group identity to increase their feeling of self worth because they have no virtues or accomplishments as individuals.
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but i am an individualist
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>>145047864
>implying you can't be both
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>>145047864
South America is the perfect example on why large scale individualism sucks
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Because being part of a group is more important than being an individual. Once the group is secure then it's time for being an individual. It's not like I don't work out and watch anime and play vidya sometimes. I just don't use degenerate excuses like "I deserve it" or "I'm just being me" let it get in the way of what's important.
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why don't you live on an island?where you can be an individualist, no government there
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>>145048074
You can only have one master: God, or your selfish desires.
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>>145047864
because I belong to a distinguished ethnic group that has consistently shown itself to be superior to the other ethnic groups on this planet for over 2000 years.
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>>145048707
all land is claimed and sites like privateislandsonline .com sell islands owned by countries
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>>145047864
Individualism is a Jewish meme with no basis in reality. All meaningful human action is collective.
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>>145047864
Because true individualism can only exist in a homogeneous.

Individualism only works if you can reasonable assume that the people around you buy into the same philosophical concepts and are of the same general psyche, life outlook and propencety to abide by muh NAP.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fInko6WL9No
Here is Jordan Peterson on the alt-right and he's absolutely right except that everything he previously described as the alt-right are necessary to achieve what he said was the ultimate goal of government, "to give rise the to individual".

Prove me wrong.
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>>145048830
Well I mean if those are the only two choices, of course I'm going with my own selfish desires. Believing in a God is for subhumans and the desperate.
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>>145048263

Barney McDonald of Dublin here is absolutely correct. Individual development is really only feasible when you have a relatively stable, predictable environment; that requires a cohesive group. Nationalism is a useful way of doing this.

Why doesn't the OP see this? He's posting a picture of a woman he could never attain, is using technology he'd never be able to develop, and is only able to access the internet at all because he was born in a rich, developed nation.

Individual accomplishments and virtues are built on a solid social foundation.
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>>145049542

This.

The NAP is a complete fucking absurdity, and part of why it's so hard to take anarchist arguments seriously. All of their models are predicated on the idea that no one will figure out that they can take advantage of everyone else by getting a large band of thugs together and demanding tribute-which has eventually happened to pretty much every society in recorded history.

Government is just an occupying, hostile force, but when you get rid of it, you just get another occupying, hostile force in its place.

The only anarcho-branch that even BEGINS to start making functional sense is anarcho-primitivism, and that should really just be called primitivism, because no primitive people have ever respected the NAP.
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>>145047864
/pol/ is an echo chamber of retarded redneck collectivists
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>>145052137
I'll fuck you in the ass you hapa faggot.
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>>145048125
This
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>>145052252
hapa? wtf are you smoking?
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>>145052137
Collectivism is essential for individualism to thrive.
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>>145047864
why dont you go be an individualist in africa op? why are you only promoting individualism behind your white picket fence in a first world white country? are you a racist? cmon, go promote it in africa if you believe in so much.
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>>145052600
ching chong nip nong indeed.
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>1 post by this ID
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>>145053022
I suggest
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Whitey's weak so he hides behind collectivism.
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>>145049195
>because I belong to a distinguished ethnic group

even if that's true, you don't get to take credit for someone else's accomplishments

>white people landed on the moon
>I'm white
>I landed on the moon

Nationalists are people who have no accomplishments of their own so they're proud of their country or the color of their skin
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>>145047864
I am. But I also like borders and think everyone should do 1 year military training out of highschool.
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>>145047864
because individualism is bullshit scam

we are all individualists ,its natural, but they want to raise it into an unnatural obsession that causes ppl to abandon their nations ,groups ,or even family's cause
as the result
siblings go against siblings and so on

Dont fall for the individualist meme.
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>>145054326
The overarching culture you are part of and that you have a responsibility to continue is so amazing that it eventually developed to the point that they could go to the moon, and they had the fucking lunacy to actually fund it and the culture produced people who were intelligent enough to do it who were also mad enough to risk their lives just to take man to a celestial body. Your meme is so stupid.
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Individualism is another word for satanism were the ego is more important then other persons. Me me me me, dont be like satanists.
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>>145047864
>Shill message
>Shill pic
>1 post by this ID
This board is going shittier on a daily basis. At least sage is good tea.
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>>145050816
The state is a complete fucking absurdity itself. We don't see it because we're raised in crazy ways and told to respect it and not question it. We're indoctrinated from birth, by our parents who were also indoctrinated. At least in ancapastan, no one is beating around the bush about the reality of how things work. In our statist society, everyone pretends that everything is normal, and that the state isn't using force to subdue people. The worst are the people who say they are proud to pay their taxes because it goes to great things like welfare. Like motherfucker, you don't have a choice, so stop virtue signalling about it.
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I don't disagree much; the state has zero claim to legitimacy or morality and is a fictitious entity used by people with power to subjugate everyone else. We're just subjects of an overwhelming authoritarian force disguised with things like democracy or socialism every once in a while to give people an illusion of influence. If you live in a country with an internet connection, this is the case.

The problem is the state absurdity will reoccur for the foreseeable future, and it has already indoctrinated billions upon billions of people. Do you really think states won't be constantly erected when thugs realize it is the easiest way to legitimize their control over a population? It's happened innumerable times in history. It would happen again once enough force and wealth was concentrated in the wrong place.

A society based around the NAP is a nice fantasy, and certainly the most moral one I can think of, but the chances of it ever being a reality, or a lasting one, is very close to zero. The historical evidence for the cycle outlined above to reoccur is very high, whereas the evidence for the NAP actually functioning is basically nonexistent.

Hey, maybe Canada can be the first to experiment with it. I'm sure enough of you leafs will become so disgusted with being associated with the nation that you'll want nothing to do with one ever again.
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>>145047864
How do you know I'm not?
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>>145047864
I am an idividualist at my core. I only support nationalism insofar as it aligns with the goals I choose to follow for my individual pleasure
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>>145047864
something something the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
I'd be more of a nationalist if I believed I belonged to a nation worth saving.
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>>145047864
>Why aren't you an individualist? Nationalism is for losers
Shill, remember to sage.
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>>145047864

I wonder why individuals lived in family groups, who then bandied together to form a tribe of several families who could defend a geographic area from threat. It's almost as-if there is some innate benefit to it all. Like, oh I dont know a HERD perhaps. Nah you are right anon, its for losers, better set out on your own.
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Because I'm not a nihilist, and I'm also aware that people are stupid and need soothing to follow, anything. Religion, identity politics, or fedora space travel shit.

I'd rather being up my kids in a good and free environment where they can live genuinely happy lives and bring up their kids to do the same.

Society is nothing without some form of unity. They need to follow something, or have something in common.

If you want to see what individualism does, just look at modern day west. People just waste the I lives away on short term pleasure. They're consumerist drones to capitalist brands, and that is what has replaced their families, long term goals, religions and so on.
Look at the modern woman. She makes herself a cum rag in her 20s for short term pleasurable reasons. Then in her 30s she's miserable wondering why she has no kids, and why no one wants her other than some loser she blanked back in school. There many women like when, if not, most. Birthrates crumble, and the replacement rate is that of different ideals and mindsets. That's individualism.

Individualism may be good for me (I'm an innawoods prepper) it may be good for you. It sounds good on paper. But remember that people are of lemming tier normie intelligence.

I live isolated right now so I can breed over 5 or 6 kids with my wife. I'm living more semi primitive away. People in society are too individualist and destructive, and this why they're falling into the hands "I agree" tier slavery.




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