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Why was modesty abandoned?
or was it always a form of male oppression?
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Actually it was a way that older saggier females kept the younger hotter ones from getting all the attention.
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>>185648416
jews
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>>185648416
you know that this pendulum swinging takes you to sharia, don't you?
play your cards well
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YOLO nigger culture basically
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>>185648550
spbp
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>>185648416
Yes it was. Women don't wear too little. Men wear too much. Men are one step away from a burkha and we're the ones with a leash.
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>>185648550
/thread
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>>185648416
damn just think about that for a moment, under the supervision of men (classic societal structure), women had to dress modestly and were limited on their sexual prowess, indirectly putting focus and bringing value to other qualities, essentially actually empowering them
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>>185648550
spbp
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>>185648550
This
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>>185648416
>was it always a form of male oppression
no, there's still plenty of women not walking around like the one on the right
and while big dresses like the left one are quite impractical, there's still a great number of modest girls out there and they're certainly not oppressed by anyone anymore
it's te aftermath of the sexual revolution, thanks America/the jews ruining it
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>>185648416
I had a realization recently about why women claim that the 1950s housewife culture was apex oppression: it was a culture of forced monogamy where pursuing men other than your husband was looked down upon. Women had to remain loyal to their husband or face the consequences, they couldn't easily pursue and share Chad with other women. That entire thing is women complaining about not being able to form harems with high status men and collapse society. In their mind that is apex "oppression".
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>>185648416
because feminism has made women worthless in the household so they now have to rely on the only thing they have left to offer in order to attract men: their sexuality.
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>>185648416
HOLY SNIFF

*BBBBRRRAAAPPPP*
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feminism destroys society
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>>185649073
what do you want us to say? we can talk about the jewish revolutionary spirit and how they subverted modesty but it still boils down to the answer: jews
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>>185649073
he's right tho, in our time it was abandoned for a purpose and the ones that promoted it first and started this domino were the kikes. It's just another factor of the growing degeneracy in our society.
>b-but but anon ancients wren't that modest!
yea shut up, it was a whole other culture and civilization, you didn't have sluts twerking and acting like apes.
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Left: some pale, flat ass wench who will leave you with medevial pubic lice and never shaved anywhere ever in her life

Right: Tan, big ass, sexy and knows it, will fuck your brains out, and is hairless in all the right places

You’re all just virgins who have a fucked Up view of women because you’ve never fucked one.
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>>185650107
jesus, you fat roasties can be spotted from a mile away
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>>185650107
t. kissless virgin
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>>185650107
>a women is only useful for her holes
Women are truly liberated from male oppression
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>>185650543
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>>185648797
Literally what other qualities?
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>>185648527

Given how much i have seen and heard women make cruel and derisive comments about other women, I’m gonna say I agree
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only a bitter virgin would be bothered by this
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>>185648416

we let women pretend that they have agency

they'll simply become money-grubbing sluts if you let them
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>>185650794
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>>185650657
cooking in the kitchen you nigger
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>>185648416
Baggy clothes are only popular when a country is in an economic boom because fashion companies can afford to use more material. It's why everybody wore baggy clothes in the 90s and then it went out in the 2000s
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>>185648527
>patriarchy was propagated by women
the real red pill
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>>185648527
This definitely has to be one of the mechanisms at play.
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>>185650107
Shut the fuck up before I backhand you w*man.
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Women have always been thots. Dont be such a pussy.
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>>185650107

You have the fucked up view of women, largely because of your porn addiction.

The proper view of women is as potential mothers, not cum-guzzling animals. If we take your view, it leads to slut-pride and empowerment of vapid cunts.

The women with the best maternal qualities, which has much to do with character and little to do with physique, should rise to the top over undeveloped sloots.
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>>185648416
>or was it always a form of male oppression?
If women these days think like this, they are so wrong. At least I find it way hotter to see a good looking woman using discrete clothing than almost plain nude.
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>>185648416
Modesty hasn't been abandoned. It's just that because of the internet, we're saturated with images of those who choose not to be modest. Like seeing leftist nutjobs on 24/7 infotainment networks makes you think they're around every corner(when they're actually not), you're fooled by media into accepting a warped version of reality.
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>>185650917
>women are attracted to status, success and military prowess
>women complain that men are obsessed with work, competition and violence
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>>185650902
Maybe in fucking africa you dipshit spook
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>>185648416
>Why was modesty abandoned?
Because it got hot outside
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>>185651254
ah, that's why Arabian women are running around naked and not in gigantic cloth-bags.
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Television was a mistake. The Corporations, which were initially not held by, (((them))), took majority viewership, and over time began to shape public opinion through ads, news, etc.

It was extremely easy to shape zeitgeist because the world had never seen something like tv before, so whatever the ads and news deemed as "cool", "in", "hip", eventually did get recognition by the younger generations watching.

Read the Bible, buy some farmland, and disconnect from society.
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>>185648416
>abandoned
Dormant is more accurate
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Somebody post the guy with the sniffing gun thing
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>>185650107
>I like my women brown-looking and hairless just like a child
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>>185648416


Civilization is a form of male oppression. The more power women gain in our society, the less civilized it becomes, the more tribal.

Women are the niggers of gender.
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>>185648597
This, and it's being ((encouraged)) by certain actors. Gullible retards merely jump on the bandwagon.
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>>185648416
>He hasn't taken the brown pill
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>>185650657
>what are women good at?
Taking care of the house and nurturing the future generation, which is not by any means less important than what men do
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>>185651171
Stupid people want things, but don't want to do the prerequisites. My parents wanted me to be successful and then they were confused why I spent so much time working.
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>>185648416
Contemporary Western culture does not presently systematically discriminate against (or oppress women), nor has it done so in the past.

Men and women are differently psycho-physiologically constituted. This is just as much a psycho-spiritual phenomenon as it is a biological function. Both genders have suffered in ways that are broadly unique to their psycho-physical experiences. Probably, it is true that most suffering is quite general to the much broader human experience. In any case, neither gender has suffered more than the other—nor has one gender, at any point in Euro-Western history, systematically discriminated against the other.

Assertions to the contrary amount merely to neo-liberal, post-modern, Marxist propagandizing, whether consciously or unconsciously deployed as such.

Don’t be the Last Man.
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People need to realize that Western dresses and mens’ suits covered both sexes up about the same. Combine them with a hat and everyone’s protected, from head to toe, from the elements, shit on the road, rain, and the sun. Not only that, but there were varying degrees of modesty depending on occasion and era. Men’s riding pants in some European countries were tight as hell showed serious moose-knuckle in the 1800’s. See girls wearing tight leggings and Wellington boots? Men literally did that first. Some ladies’ evening party dresses nearly exposed the nipples and their corsets pushed the tits up- however, this had different connotations and sometimes semi-to-fully-exposed boobs even signified youthful innocence.

A note about corsets- women in the Western and Greco-Roman world wore corsets for thousands of years on their own initiative. The idea that corsets were a patriarchal invention is absurd and women wore skirts out of functional necessity. If you bled from your gooch once a month, and had weaker control over your bladder, and had to squat to piss no matter what, you wouldn’t wear trousers either.
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>>185652506
Some more.

Men and women both wore stockings tied at the thigh or attached to a garter belt until sewing techniques progressed to wear you could make well-fitted trousers. Until then, men’s tunic skirts got ever shorter and you had to wear a dick flap/sock (codpiece) to maintain modesty. And you could squat right down and take a shit on the designated shitting street if you had to. This all happened in the 1500-1700’s. Trousers did exist way before then but they looked more like Aladdin’s pants, or tied-shut boxers, on account of global unsophistication in pattern-making.
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>>185649311
*the jew destroys society
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>>185648416
Modesty was a forced meme. See Otto...
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>>185650657
Proverbs 31:10-31 King James Version (KJV)
>Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
>The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
>She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
>She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
>She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
>She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
>She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
>She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
>She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
>She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
>She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
>She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
>She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
>Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
>She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
>Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
>She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
>She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
>Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
>Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
>Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.
>Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
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>>185648416
Modesty was a male construct to keep women from being whores.
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>>185648416
modesty is caused by male oppression but sexualization is caused by toxic masculinity
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>>185650107
Go shave your hairy smelly cunt.
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>>185648527
Fpbp
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>>185650107
daas amazin!
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>>185649204
This. Birth control pills screwed up their hormones making them ugly and insane. Feminism made them entitled and intolerable where they rejected motherhood and domestic duties.

She looks terrible. She acts worse. She can't cook. She won't clean. She is incapable of bearing children due to brainwashing and chemical poisoning. So what is her last resort to sell herself to men? The warm hole between her legs.
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>>185649169
Exactly. There is nothing more oppressive to a woman than not being a sex object in Chad's harem.

True liberation is fucking Chad without consequences and forcing Beta Bryan to foot the bill for your choices.
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>>185648416
The girl on the right is flaunting her secondary sexual characteristics because she is looking for a guy. One of you guys should show interest in her then wife her. But do you think she would make a good mother?
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Anyway, you kids don't have to be petty about the fact that a girl is flaunting her secondary sexual characteristics. Just get with her and have a lot of kids to continue your lineage, that's your life purpose.
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>>185648416
No, it never was "male oppression."

The patriarchy has worked for thousands of years. It kept women in check & prevented, or at least kept their hypergamous nature under control.

Then along comes Feminism/Assembly Women, pushing a matriarchy & are incredibly lazy. Of course, betamales, basedboys, & whiteknights kiss into the demands of the bitches, & because they have money & votes, they pushed the Feminism. Then as a result, you have women in the workplace, high divorce rates, broken families, racemixing, promisicousity, & a weak economy.

In summary, giving women a voice was a mistake & now we are starting to see unintended consequences of Feminism.
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>>185648416
Lose women make a weak society
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>>185648550
sippy bippy
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>>185655203
It shouldn't matter if she is "loose" or not. These bitches want a guy to stick by them but they all get dudes who don't want to settle then get labeled as "loose" sometimes.
That's why I told you kids to not be petty and just get with them and have a lot of kids.
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>>185649286
>fat sniffers
Oh god why have you left us in this misery of reality?
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>>185648416
WHO IS THE GIRL ON THE RIGHT

i need her insta so i can help guide her back to the light of christ.
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>>185648416
Some moments it hits me how messed up society is. It's so bad that the rebellious youth are watching fox news and demanding modesty, as the only method of rebellion left. That girl on the left is extremely attractive. But if I saw her walking down the street in a t-shirt and jeans, I'd probably think about how her face is chubby or her breasts are too small, or her ass isn't the right shape. It's funny how things are.
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>>185651150
This is true. Do not forget about the pareto's law.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution
Square root of the people involved do half the work. Most people don't do porn at all while a chosen few shoot multiple movies in a single day.
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>>185648416
>Why was modesty abandoned?
because sluts get more attention from men
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>>185656197
Yep, because men like it.
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>>185648550
spbp.

My question is that if young girls are so easily manipulated, why are the Jews the only ones doing it?
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>>185648416
>Why was modesty abandoned?

Modesty was abandoned the moment women were enmass introduced and incorporated into work culture. Once women began to earn their own bread, especially by competing against men in the workforce, this began to lessen the need for men to be prospective mates of whom would bring financial security. This therefore brought out the worst in women; the primitive, cave-man (rather cave-woman) response to men where a culture of civilization is no longer a foundational value to be respected in contemporary mating ritual.

In other words, modesty, virility, chastity, etc. These are values [for women] that are cherished by civilizations where marriage(monogamy) is a prime characteristic of the growth and longevity. We don't live in that world anymore. Those values were only important because they were valued to be motherly, where men were valued to be fatherly. Now everythings so mixed that men literally cut their dicks to pretend to be women, and women perform lobotomy through indoctrination of feminism/marxism.
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Modesty only disguises whores and makes them more difficult to distinguish from good girls.
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>>185651150
>seeing leftist nutjobs on 24/7 infotainment networks makes you think they're around every corner(when they're actually not)
They actually are. I have family members who are the most cliche dyed-hair tumblerette you can imagine. I overhear people talking about politics and even the ones that come across as fairly conservative will say something extremely liberal. You're denying them being a substantial part of the population because you haven't fully realized the situation. You're imagining that things are better than they are because you still have a mindset that anything can be overcome or achieved as long as you, personally, are good and try hard.
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>>185648416
It disappeared because of weak minded men who think that if you act nice towards women and "respect" them ( aka getting her whatever she wants) and let her free without thinking about the consequences of her actions. Like, damn you westerners are really strange. I can't imagine here having betas and white knights, because everyone knows how much of a burden a woman can be. Its even worse when people like these think they will eventually get some pussy. Wut??! Who ever thinks that wasting money just to get banged is a good idea? Aren't hookers made exactly for that job? Maybe more beatings and rough punishment will be needed if you want modesty to come back.
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>>185648416
That is a, 10/10 rear
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>>185648527
Fuck off kike. Modesty is a cornerstone of western civilization.
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>>185648550
This
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>>185657800
>It disappeared because of weak minded men who think that if you act nice towards women and "respect" them

and this happened because of rampant single motherhood and divorce, coupled with hollywood brainwashing.

not just women, most people dont even think about these things. if people just thought "hmm, people followed this shit for thousands of years and this guideline appears in EVERY religion. Maybe this guy who says "fuck religion man" is wrong". most people just do what sounds or feels good though, not because its right
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>>185648550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04

Literally jews pushing (((feminism))) unto women.
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>>185648416
There's a time and place for modesty and this is evidently neither.
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>>185651106

"Haha dude you gay bro?" - t.vast majority of brainlet urbanite men out there
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If we used to force women to dress modestly, it must mean that at some point in history we allowed them to dress immodestly.

But this never seems to have been the case?
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>>185648797
This is a good point.
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>>185648527
Fpbp.
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One of the earliest known recordings of female degeneracy was on a tablet found from the ancient Greeks that is of a wealthy craftsman complaining because his daughters were dressing up like the temple whores to attract male attention.

Women desire attention above all else. It is in their instincts to do so. Being degenerate is simply woman's nature, as is mans nature to wage war and kill.

Putting on a sport coat is simply the warriors avoiding their natural tendency to rape, enslave, murder.
Women pretending to be modest is women avoiding their natural innate instincts.

Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.
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>>185648416
Basically women submitted to mens authority and monogamy with the understanding that everyone benefits in the long run by every man having the ability to put his energy to work for a family unit.
Now that the jewish central banking state has taken over the role of men, at the financial expense of men, women are now unrestrained, and they can return to their biological nature, and this destroy this tentative thing called civilisation.
It was never oppression; it was always understood that it is an exchange, sexual monogamy for the mans productivity.
That old system relied on fairly high IQ women that could see the benefits, long term, and accept the role. We now have low IQ, impulsive women, that can't see past their immediate attention whoring.
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>>185648416
Womens emotional need for constant attention combined with 100 years of growing feminism
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>>185648550
Based and redpilled.
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>>185648416

Social degradation is a large part of it. If you look at the history of dance, we went from balls and ballet to twerking.

Dancing went from being an art where skill and grace was on display to basically being a less subtle way of women saying they're horny.

It's the same way with women's cloths. It used to be fashion, the materials, and the flowing lines that made women look pretty. Now you hope you don't run across a fatass in yoga pants.

What's going on here is that less is expected of women, from an intellectual and spiritual perspective. And I know, a lot of people will be quick to point all the initiatives out there that want women in STEM and whatnot. But no amount of pure academia can compensate for a lack of culture, style, or grace.
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>>185648416
because people like the taste of ass
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>>185648416

women want to subconciously be dominated and controlled by men, that's why they are more and more provocative, they want someone to smack their shit for being too slutty
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>>185654614
Only the rich and smooth tight fighting tights poor people looked like they were wearing long johns
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>>185648416
post modest cloths of every flavor
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>>185664275

just picking through my unsorted costume folder
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>>185664321
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>>185648416
feminism turned all women into trashy whores that people want to fuck but not marry
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>>185650107
>Right: Tan, big ass, sexy and knows it, will fuck your brains out,
and every BBC she can find
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>>185651038
>physique

One should consider physique so far as are they taking care of them selves and staying generally healthy without following any fade
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>>185648416
gee which one looks less used yet might trade sex for ren fair costume accessories that I make
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>>185650657
Being a mother.
The fact that this isn't enough is ridiculous to me. No wonder autism is on the rise.
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>>185648416
Just why do you ask about this and do you think about how this is enough.

Enough degeneracy lads.

wewlad

so if you want your answer read the first letter of every sentence of this post and yes I am high.
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>>185648416
Found her social media this was form 10 years ago so she is legal now. She mad it from two bed covers, that is so crafty she deserved extra special fondles
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Liberalism. It started by giving them voting rights, which is nto a good thing since polls show that women tend to vote because MUH FEELINGS and not because logically (thats why most of them are pro immigration desu). From there it snowballed into what we have today. Now combine it with US nigger """culture""" and how it spread all around the world and there's you answer.
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>>185655474
>Schrödinger’s Thot
>she’ll either be faithful to you and give you three kids or cheat, fuck you over and take half your belongings and your kid
>the superposition is broken only when you marry, you can’t find out for sure beforehand
Yeah, not risking those odds.
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>>185648527
wow
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>>185648416
source for that ass... mmmmm
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funeral whore
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>>185666291
>falling for the ass on the right, not the cute girl on the left
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>>185648416
Because if a woman shows off her body, men will give her stuff. She used to suffer social repercussions and ostracism for this behavior, but social progress was able to remove these negative stigma so now she is free to use sexuality to minimize the amount of effort she needs to put into living a successful respectable life. Men are responsible for their own part in permitting this as well. Find me one selfish camwhore/game streamer and I'll show you 700 desperate beta men sending her money for attention and validating her behavior.
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>>185668467
based.
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>>185648416

Modesty was abandoned because shows like America's Got Talent fooled women into thinking that being shy was a bad thing and being on camera 24/7 is a good thing.
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>>185648416
Just like modern thottery, it was a method for females to attract males. Modern women just want different things in a man than the women of history. They don't depend on a man's trust and loyalty anymore, so they don't appeal to it.
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Women are unconscious and amoral. They are are like children and if you don't control them then they will start acting out their desires. Since for women their lives revolve around sex, they started dressing more slutty. Read Weininger's "Sex and Character"
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>>185668467
Actually for me it's the opposite if a girl dresses frumpy i give her more stuff like discount action figures and used sci fi DVD boxed sets
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>>185669343
Common behavior, you're needy so you're attracted to "attainable" girls because you think if you give them favors you're more likely to get sympathy or interest from them in return. But doing that doesn't make you more valuable in their eyes, it just makes you a doormat. Besides the audacity of trying to barter for sex with spontaneous gifts, you aren't encouraging her to respond with favors to your graciousness, you're just reinforcing the idea that she can get favors from you without giving anything in return. You're programming her to act just as shitty as her more attractive, self-absorbed counterparts.

That's basically what women are, programmable people. I don't mean this in an entirely negative way. Believe it or not, it is possible for a woman to grow into an interesting, talented, virtuous, competent person, but it's a very delicate procedure and strongly hindered by the current social environment. First we treated them like princesses, and now they demand to be treated like queens, and this all but annihilates their chances for significant emotional or intellectual growth.
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Modesty is vanity disguised as morality.
Sexuality is the most human quality, and thus the most damned and scorned by the oppression of the Abrahamic religions.
To wear clothing that flatters a healthy body, sculpted and cared for by exercise and a healthy diet, is a sign of an enlightened, evolved, higher form of being.
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>>185650107
your only view of women is how fuckable they are?
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>>185651150
This is somewhat true. The most degenerate stuff ends up online. Even still though... Listening to you younger people about Tinder is horrifying stuff
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>>185650107
You don't at all sound like you know what you're talking about. Are you a w'hore?
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>>185650107
>right: fucks niggers
>left: doesn't
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To show off those really huge brappers and attract males
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>>185673061
Then if that's the case I ask the following, if such is the case, and sexual expression is paramount to a free and open society.
Then why is population of western societies free falling?
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>>185648416
>Girl on left
Ticks and creepy crawlies climbing up her legs. When they bite into her clit she might just orgasm in public and embarrass herself.
>Girl on right
Sensible clothing that protects against being raped by insects. She can walk through woodland areas knowing that insects will not bring her to orgasm.
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>>185648527
>the biggest challenge to women's "rights" was other women

really makes you think
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>>185677598
wow another gay british poster. thats not rare
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>>185653718
you'd think the opposite would be true? no?

the hyper sexualization as the norm is what leads to the "objectification" of women
they were probably felt equal when they were modestly dressed

once again the loudest and most bullying women ruin being a woman for everyone else
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>>185648527
Honestly, there is no way a healthy man will marry a 4/10 or below. The moment you see a 7+, you can't really get into ugly girls. No amount of personality can fix this, since ugly girl with personality is more like your guy friend.
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>When they bite into her clit she might just orgasm
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>>185651171
Lol. I've had 2 long term gf's just like this.
>Why are you working all the time and not spending time with meeeeee?
>Start cutting hours
>Why is there less money for meeeeee to spend?
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>>185648416
I saw a woman at Home Depot yesterday, probably around 35, 8/10, and she was wearing those shorts that show the bottom crease of her ass. Wow, every time she stooped to get her building supplies you could see a third of her ass.
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>>185648527
Well, there's the thread folks.
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>>185678182
That's why giving women to much freedom is a bad idea. Women can only fulfill their role if they are submissive, they have to follow men and their will. On the other hand, men must be dominant and confident. Any other relationship is a bad idea.
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>>185677710
No it really doesn't, seeing as sexual liberation followed the feminist movement.
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>>185666401
???
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>>185650107
>Thinking being a whore is a good attribure
even in the ancient times whores were a normal, common thing. however, I never heard about praising whores. So how come humanity didn't notice this is the way women should be?!
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>>185650107
natural levels of hair on a women is okay though.
seriously unless she's capable of being as hairy as I am, they don't need to shave
I feel like you've fallen for jewish brain-washing.
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>tfw yu will never have an obedient and loving full blooded German
Mennonite wife bear 8 white children for you.

Why even fucking live /pol/?
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>>185648527
Left is hotter though.
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Nothing wrong with being comfortable showing the body. It's a healthier attitude to have than making sure nobody other than your spouse sees you less than 90% covered. The issue is always wearing clothes that accentuate the intimate aspects of the body.
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>>185663591
This post is a good post.
A sad post but a good post
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>>185678548
lel
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>>185679884
good German stock there anon.
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>>185650107
Yikes, that's some cringe right there
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>>185648416
>Why was modesty abandoned?
>or was it always a form of male oppression?
they invented tablecloths to prevent men from getting boners looking at table legs
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>>185648416
Clothing modesty was never about oppression, it was about self-discipline and treating yourself and others with respect. Sadly the west eventually forgot this. Now such comments are not comprehensible to them.
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>>185651171
there is a strong positive correlation between amount of wealth and female attraction. Most causes of the divorce is strictly financial. Money trumps "love".

t.attorney
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>>185650107
>what losers you aren't a degenerate like me
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>>185651038
This
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>>185666401
lol
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>>185650543
Based and insightful
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>>185653554
Amen. Don't settle for less lads.
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>>185653641
And that's a good thing.
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>>185653718
So! That lady is posing with coral ripped from the sea? Anyone know why?
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>>185665920
>Schrödinger's thot
Top jej
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>>185648416
because with more women's rights they had the opportunity to put more meat in the shop's window so to speak.
Of those 2 which one do you think gets more hits?
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>>185655474
>>but they all get dudes who don't want to settle then get labeled as "loose" sometimes.
And why do you think that is? Because they advertised themselves as sex objects and than literally give away the product. Its like a free soup line, there will always be ppl lined up to get something for nothing. Stop giving away the soup!!
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>>185648416
I'm disgusted by the right because ass is for niggers.

I legitimately don't get how guys can be attracted to the right, some bloated up ass looking like a baboon and no sign of tits.
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>>185648416
Because women today have less to offer unless you count aids and a bad attitude. They try to compensate for this by being whores.
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>>185648416
Because there aren't enough Chad Thundercocks for every woman to have one.
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>>185683166
What a fag. She's got a beautiful ass.
Though I think showing it off like that shows poor character.
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>>185650107
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>>185663591
This. And I would say that's the fault of women losing their self-respect. Men are still drawn to lovliness. The attention a whore gets is not the kind of attention a worthy woman seeks.
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>>185650107
>Right: Tan, big ass, sexy and knows it, will fuck your brains out, and is hairless in all the right places

>He doesn't like pubic hair

LOL get a load of this faggot
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>Two Women, Two Worldviews
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>>185684061
>Two Men, Two Worldviews
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>>185683501
It’s your own fault if you’re not a chad thundercock

It’s called personal responsibility
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>>185648527
Truth same with burquas-men don’t give a shit, it’s the women who force younger hotter women to wear them
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>>185650107
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>>185683883
Great minds think alike ;) >>185684061
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>>185648416
The only way I would ever get to see her ass would be sans modesty.

The only way I would actually want her other than as a jackoff theme would be with modesty because frankly she's worthless since I'd be forever competing with everyone else interested in her to keep her favor and she has no reason to be loyal.

Perhaps the balance is to be found in a culture that affords women respect inversely to their whorishness. No idea how to implement that.
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>>185648416

my asian girlfriend stays modest. i hate white women for my past experiences with them, utter gutter scum.
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>>185677072
Destruction of family values and enforcement of the concept that children are bad for your life.

The left has convinced the west that bearing children is a net negative.
And now we import nogs and shitskins into replace our birthrate
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>>185684493
Black and Hispanic immigrants aside non whites here are even more POZZED and have a birth rate below 1.5. Just black and Hispanic immigrants bring that to 1.81
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This topic gets made every day, and we always explain it, but no one listens, becuase you're all clueless with regards to women and sex. So what's the point of explaining it again. Either find a way to reproduce, or be annihilated by the march of time.
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>>185653189
rare?
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>>185648416
If they keep pushing the race mixers, white womenfolk will put dishes in their lips and walk around naked
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>>185684699
It's not like there are any real consequences for behaving like a savage. The state will make sure nobody starves no matter what.
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>>185684875
The only reason I am pro mandatory child support is because I pay the difference in taxes when it doesn't happen. Otherwise I could give a fuck. Her just deserts for letting a shithead fuck her.
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>>185683086
It's up to you to be her chad. But it's not like you're a hot catch yourself, is it?
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>>185673061
European pagans didn't dress like degenerates and they didn't try to show off their body on purpose. This has nothing to do with abrahamic religions.

Yoga pants that highlight the asscrack with wrinkles are maybe the pinnacle of the liberal enlightenment, but not a sign of a higher being. I think Nietzsche would agree with me on this one. How could one take walks in the forest and have any deep thought if surrounded by cocktease all around?
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>>185648597
>you know that this pendulum swinging takes you to sharia, don't you?
>play your cards well
Forget about that betacuck. this ain't happening, ever.
billions will die before that happen.
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The US is currently on the path to becoming Weimar 2: Electric boogaloo. And it's already worse in certain aspects. Europe isn't far behind.

Gee, I wonder who could be behind this cultural development.
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>>185663724
Or does ass taste like people????
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>>185648416
Women are whores. Always have been, always will be.
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>>185685074
I am forced to contribute to the devalue what makes me a chad fund.
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>>185668467
>desperate beta men

/pol/ is full of them
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>>185685431
the fuck do you know anything about America
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>>185648416
Left is 100x more sexy
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>>185685720
Considering I was born there, lived 23 years there and browsed /pol/ for the past 7 years, yes, I do know something about America.
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>>185668467
Yeah, I blame thirsty guys more than women. Who can blame them, really? But the guys ought to stop being pathetic.
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>>185648416
women used to be raised to see their bodies as being so valuable that they would only let the man they deemed good enough to marry see. Now they will let niggers fuck them.
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>>185651640
how is that brown
just stick your shit in lmao
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>>185683883
>bad literature
Readers BTFO
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>>185648416
Women Wanted to abandon modesty so that they could all compete for the Chad cock
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modesty was abandoned for economy and technological advancement in textiles.

a shirt uses less material than a tunic.
a jacket uses less material than a cloak.

the poor people can afford long flowing gowns.

its a win win. give the leity stylish sexy clothes,
so they are encouraged to breed more
so we can ensure a new generation of sex crazed puppet zombies.
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>>185664394
Totally dig the hats.
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>>185648527
Unironically this. The advent of monogamy hurts women under 30 and helps women over 30. Any man worth having can trade up once his previous girl hits the wall, female modesty was in part a way to prevent that
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>>185653718
this anon gets it.

men being addicted to porn and WANTING women to dress like whores to appease their tastes is why women dress like whores.
men wanting sex without babies is why birth control exists. women didn't invent that shit.
when feminists blame men, they aren't wrong; they just get the source of the problems wrong.
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>>185664819
you're part of the problem faggot
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>>185648416
Literally every clothing style is "oppression", it's the prevailing standards of what other men and women demand of men and women.
You want women to dress modestly? Set the standard that they should dress modestly and reinforce that as much as possible.
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>>185657706
this
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>>185686755
I miss Assy McGee.
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>>185650107
This, but unironically.
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Men's tastes changed
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>>185678218
Best 5 hours of your life!
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>>185648416
The only useful trait women possess is the wet hole between their legs.
Notice how objectification of women has increased since women's liberation?
Women act and are treated like sex obhects now because when given the choice to be anything, most women choose to be sex objects.
If a woman really wanted to be equal to a man, she would stop wearing makeup, stop wearing tight clothes, and start learning skills like welding or truck driving.
But women dont want equality.
They want providers who they can subjugate with the power of sexual access.
Well guess what roasties? Men are rejecting you.
You are all gonna end up old, single, and childless as your ovaries shrivel and die.
We gave You freedom and you became prostitutes.
Women's liberation was a mistake
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>>185663724
nope not at all
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>>185650585
brilliant redpill, amazing story to tell to trannies and their boomer parents
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>>185648550
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>>185648764
kill urself my man
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>>185679884
Except that by age 30 they weigh 250 lbs and grow beards. Grew up near a big Amish/Mennonite area in Pennsylvania.
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Read Brave New World. It is all there.
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>>185686666
>6666
So is just a mating strategy, how depressing. Now i undestand women that are not modest, i used to hate them. that would explain why modest women tend to be ugly, they have nothing good to show.
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>>185684101
what if i don't want to be chad? All i want is to be myself, a normal dude with defects and virtues.
I don't want to change myself just for women i just want to improve myself and give something to my community.
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>>185689610
>not wanting to be chad
what is wrong with you
most men can become at least 6/10 by virtue of lifting and getting in shape regardless of how they look
people who don't want to improve themselves disgust me. take off your retarded meme flag and try aspiring to something for once
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>>185683883
That used up 40yo slut could easily find someone to marry her nowadays
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>>185648416
id rather talk to the nice young lady in the dress than the skanky slut in the yoga pants. and i am literally a normal fag
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>>185648416
Society no longer demanded modesty from women, so women abandoned it. Women's true nature resurface once they're unrestrained.
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>>185650107
>some pale, flat ass wench who will leave you with medevial pubic lice and never shaved anywhere ever in her life

This is a bad thing how?
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>>185689154
Exactly. Men imposed modesty to create social order. The moment women had the opportunity to abandon it, they did. They embraced birth control. Why? To be able to cheat more easily and deceive their husbands.
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>>185689835
Yeah it can be hard but it is what it is. If you what to remain where you are and still date you gotta date down, and from the sounds that aint gonna be pretty ;)
Defects is another issue though, chad can have defects the important thing is either he has accepted them or is working to fix them. I would recommend the book Models by Mark Manson for understanding for a good understanding of how to work with defects in picking up women.
tldr is have a zen attitude amigo. fucking meditate for an hour (sounds scary I know but that's the point, doing nothing for one hour should not be scary) one time and see how it affects you and if you like it. Me it makes me better at everything and people like me more, still hard to find time for it though xoxo
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>>185689610
That’s fine. It’s your choice. Just understand that these feelings run in opposition to women’s desires, and the evolutionary pressure they are putting on you.
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>>185689835
are you a bot?
i didn't say that i don't want to improve myself fagget
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>>185648527
>Matriarchy Merchant
Thanks for noodle tickling red-pill anon
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>>185648416
>or was it always a form of male oppression?
yes, look at muslim culture
I'm not gonna read the shit itt cause I can guess what it is, and I'll respond with this: it's fucking fine to be sexually open, just cause you're a sad virgin larping as a 1950s rich white dude doesn't make it any less okay
if you relax and be more sexual yourself then you'll probably be happier
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>>185691425
But Chad is the extreme of masculinity, c'mon. Don't tell me you want to improve yourself by making a hole where the ballsack is supposed to be.
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>>185648550
when in doubt the answer is always jews
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>>185650107
>Roastie
>Incel
>Porn addict
>sex addict fag
Learn balance soi-anon
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>>185648416
It comes and goes.
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>>185660962
Pretty much this.
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>>185664321
hnnnnnng
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>>185648416
I wanna eat that ass on the right
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>>185648416
modesty only became a thing when abrahamic christcuck religions infiltrated europe
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>>185658220
>only western civilizations practice modesty
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>>185648416
There's a really good quote that's usually posted in these types of threads relegated to this topic, and I don't have the time to skim through. It basically says:

Women have collectively, essentially, abandoned, don't promote, or outright attack feminine virtues like motherhood, taking care of the home, cooking, cleaning, raising children, taking care of their man, etc. which really only leaves sex left. The feminist (Jewish) movement has pigeon-holed women into only being a sex symbol, so they pursue that role only and endlessly, to their own detriment, with things like make-up, underwear, clothing, social media, etc. that's made to make them look and feel more "sexy."

Stupidly, the ultra feminists bitch about being treated as sex objects, and most other women who have bought into this bullshit propaganda and lifestyle who get older and beat out by younger prettier women feel cheated and unfulfilled, because they haven't practiced and and upheld their other virtues.

It's fucked and the shits all retarded.
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>>185651150
You clearly have been out of school for too long if you think it's exaggerated how less modest women are now.
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>>185648527
This is a pretty widely understood concept. In today's culture older women have been displaced from their roles as matriarchs of their family unit and local community. Older women have lost all their value and are in constant competition with younger women. This is a complete reversal of roles in past eras younger women were considered a liability because of their marriage dowry. Well older women were valued for their roles as midwives, house keepers and practitioners of folk medicine. Older women have a vested interest in ensuring that younger women are less desirable because they are not able to compete with them in the sexual marketplace. This is why in the middle east you will often see that it's the older women policing the younger women and enforcing modesty norms. Their are a bunch of videos on like of groups of older women attacking young girls who are not wearing their hijab in public. Even in American older female bosses will treat their young female employees like absolute shit.
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>>185651396
FTFY Ahmed
(Nice try tho with your proselytism)
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>>185648416
Women are whores.
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>>185684471
Same here. I got totally fucked over by American women. Then I married an Asian (in Asia) who thinks long-term. Gave me children. 15 years later we're still happy, still in love, and, though not so frequent, she's still a great fuck
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>>185651150
Where do you live?

I'm surrounded by whores everywhere, I will admit that when I was in a small town the women weren't total whores but the fact that it had a decent university pretty much turned the downtown into total degeneracy.
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>>185648416
Modesty and sexual repression are the foundations of civilization and high culture, now that these things have been thrown off we see the return to the jungle.
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Mind=blown
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>>185650107
>You’re all just virgins who have a fucked Up view of women because you’ve never fucked one.
The people saying shit like this are the real incels who have never had sex.
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>>185657706
hans don't assume "your area of residence = everywhere else"
i too have thought this way but "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". tho i do not deny that things are turning sinister. Just create a perception for you that makes people around you go the way you want things to go if you catch my drift. "perception becomes reality"
t. from sad frog to tfw to smart wojak
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because women are gay for themselves
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>>185689610
> let me live the sweet illusion orchastrated by media around me how i can be "virtuous" (easy way out ) without having been around enough to know what i sign up for
lad thats horseshit and you know it. Success is not for everybody i agree, tho don't try to fool yourself and others by claiming you'll be morally better if you don't try at all at life.
>hurr durr i'm a limp wristed fag, going out of my comfort zone for the greater good of everything around me (yourself included) and fullfilling as much of my potential as i can, is to much of a hassle so i rather be a weak cunt and shitpost online about how much better i am for staying weak
Your writing lets me conclude you have the life experience and willingness to improve of a 5y/o. Jesus will forgive you, i tell you to neck yourself faggot
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>>185648416
Influenced by the (((media))) of course.
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>>185648550
>jews
checks out
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>>185685787
Newfag gtfo my /b/
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>>185707806
Where did this degeneracy take place?
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>>185688499
Based Michael Jones. Everyone in this thread should read Libido Dominandi.
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>>185651150
Stop being rational! This is an outrage thread!
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>>185707806
I will kill these thots
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>>185651027
those dresses were like a box of chocholates
you never know what you get
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>>185678548
keeeeeeeeek
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>>185648416
That dress on the left isn't modest, it's just ostentatious in a different way.
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>>185658220
>Modesty is a cornerstone of western civilization.
So, Islam is ahead of us then?
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>>185651027
That dress does things to my pepe.
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>>185648416
>selfie of her own ass
Why are women narcissists?
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>>185648416
This thread was posted yesterday at 9:32 pm. How did it stay up? Did someone stop by to bump it once every 20 minutes? It's only at 281 posts, so it's not a high traffic thread. It's literally on life-support. I'm not complaining, I'm just curious how threads like these stay up, sometimes for a couple days, barely getting replies. Its weird to look at the catalog and think youre seeing repeat threads, but its the same thread for a couple days.
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>>185648416
because people couldn't afford different clothing, so they kept their one wooly dress and put more wolly dresses upon it to keep warm. Go to africa they still run around naked. Ancient europeans would have done the same if the climate wasn't that fucking cold. Today you can afford tight and thin clothing in the summer, and thick and warm clothing in the winter. People simply hadn't the means and money to clothe how they wanted. This clothing culture ended at the industrial times slowly but steadily. it could have ended even quicker if it weren't for christianity or islam telling women to cover themselves up in the mind that men can't control themselves if women are clothing like pic related right. A truly free society would run around naked, like in germanies summer on FKK beaches. People didn't went there and ran around naked because they were horny, they did go there to feel more free. Only low iq instinct driven niggers need to have "Modesty"
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>>185649059
Have you ever stepped outside? All girls from 20-35 dress like whores.
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>>185648416
I would wear a fucking loin cloth around if it was socially acceptable. You may not know this, but it feels nice to not sweat your balls (or vagina) off in the sun.
Christ, it’s like you literal fucking fags don’t like to see tiddy and butt.
Go back to jerking off to trap porn. Fucking beta losers
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>>185716173
Because women are wired by evolution to crave attention. From a reproductive standpoint, any woman commanding the majority of attention is the one most likely to mate with the best males around. A woman is psychologically oriented to crave attention; the more people give her attention, the more of a narcotic it is for her. That's why social media is such cancer.
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>>185648416
Jewish Degeneracy. Weimar.
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>>185652186
Is this the famous boomer Donald Duck poster who hates women?
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>>185717421
Right, because nudist beaches don't exist anywhere but Germany. If only the whole world could be truly free like your country which has been under the rule of a single person for almost two decades.
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>>185717845
>it’s like you literal fucking fags don’t like to see tiddy and butt
There is something profoundly demoralizing seeing endless parades of "tiddy and butt", when you know what tragic forces are motivating it. It's like watching a sea of dead souls on parade. No one expects women like you to see it that way; you're mental children who can't perceive the subtext of your actions, or distinguish between self-destructive and healthy urges. You're almost house-pet tier in your behavior, driven by emotions and instincts instead of thoughtfulness. You wind up hating yourselves early in life, and instinctively you blame men for letting you destroy yourself. Meanwhile, we watch society die while you applaud and shrug your shoulders. Are you surprised we don't care what you think about "tiddy and butt" you useless sack?
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>Stop shitting on girls and start shitting on those who corrupt them.
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>american
>explaining something about nude culture

you can't even control yourself around men that don't wear long swimming shorts at the beach
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>>185717603
Would you consider the possibility that you just don't notice the "other" girls? Or that those are out of the scope of your social life. There are a LOT of girls and woman in various social circles you will never know about or interact with. You actually have a very skewed and limited view of society as it is and social networks might have empowered your view
Your personal view of society is a result of the quality of your social life. This simplistic view actually seem you have it pretty poor.
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>>185714651
Balance. The limits are nudity or trash bags. Africans apply the former while muslims, the latter
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>>185720399
>stop punishing criminals and punish those who corrupt them
Wrong. You have to shit on both. No consequence for bad behavior = enabling bad behavior.
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>>185717858
>Because women are wired by evolution to crave attention.
Men do not crave attention? Ofcourse, both have different motives due to our differences, but still - there are different classes of men and women and both are in a search of best possible partner for them.
Don't you think your opinion is biased due to the fact you only notice attention whores because they are good at it.
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>>185721235
>You have to shit on both. No consequence for bad behavior = enabling bad behavior.
I'll agree with that.

But making it all someone else's (women's) shows a level of immaturity. Taking personal responsibility and then seeking ways to fix your own flaws before criticising others for theirs is a better approach.
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>>185722876
>But making it all someone else's (women's) fault
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>>185721924
>Men do not crave attention?
Women are consumed by it, men are not. The answer is the same for most questions like this: of course there is a version of whatever trait found in one sex, that can be observed in the other. Never to the same degree or for the same reasons. Welcome to sexual dimorphism.

>>185722876
>But making it all someone else's (women's) shows a level of immaturity.
The degree to which blind resentment of women is vented here, is definitely obvious. But there are reasons why you should never expect women to have certain types of self restraint or control. If you do, you're always going to be betrayed. At some point, you just have to accept that women (as a group) will never be motivated by the good of society. They will never be motivated to self sacrifice for the grater good, or be naturally aware of the group's insecurity. Women will always be the first ones holding "refugees welcome" signs, because those are their instincts. The history of civilization, to a great extent, is determined by the extent to which the men of any given group can restrain the r-selected instincts and urges that its members are driven by. The moment these institutions of restraint break down, is the moment that the society in question declines and is consumed by its better-organized competitors.
>tl;dr
Women are rarely, if ever, the agents of social order. Men are. Blame men for disorder, for slacking in their vigilance, but never expect women to be the AGENTS of order.
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>>185681868
Source?
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RELATED THREAD, MUST VIEW:
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So many nice guys in this thread
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>>185724165
No one is "nice" here; this is the Cathedral of Misogyny.
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>>185687738
>If a woman really wanted to be equal to a man, she would stop wearing makeup, stop wearing tight clothes, and start learning skills like welding or truck driving.
You just described my girlfriend, Anon. She doesn’t wear tight clothes and only wears makeup on special occasions like our anniversary. I met her at Uni and she got an engineering degree with a minor in art. She helps me pay the bills and on the side she likes to make our plates and cups out of clay. Don’t be too blackpilled, Anon. There’s still good girls out there.
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>>185648416
you think an ass like that should be coverred up?
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>>185724576
1/10 effort lying
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>>185648416
They are doing it for IRL (You)'s





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