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It's a subconscious feeling developed in early childhood that can most definitely be influenced by outside factors and brainwashing.
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It is a choice.

t. bisexual
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>>302587950
No. I don't think it's a choice, never have.
But then again, I was molested because my babysitter had a fucking pill habit.
What's more fucked is she was like a mother to me for years, and it took me years to realize you can't trust anyone who shows you affection.
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>>302587950
it's a choice in the same way that your favorite food is your choice. you don't decide what food tastes good to you, some food just inherently tastes good. it's possible to eat food that you don't like, to the point that you like it, and likewise it's possible to start to hate food you do like. it's a rigid-choice.
the real red pill is that sexuality doesn't exist, anyone can form a romantic attachment to anything, but people's minds are genetically wired to go in one direction, (or socially engineered to go in one direction, usually a combination of both), and then they are taught to believe this is something inherent to their character, when it actually isn't.

having a sexuality, ironically, is a sign of self-ignorance.
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>>302587950
Why does it matter? still doesnt make faggotry acceptable.
>I was born this way
so were retards.
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>>302587950
Endocrine disruptors cause it, and you can choose not to act on it. Hormone imbalances can be corrected.
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It's just a fetish people acquire, in most cases
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>>302588212
this. before the existance of the internet, boys would have the thought of "am I gay?", they would probably think about it for 2-3 days, not tell anybody because of fear, and after that period, they would simply forget about it
Nowdays, a kid can have the same thought, hop on the computer, type the question "am I gay?" and get bombarded with hundres of articles and communities telling them "Yes, you are gay"
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>>302587950
Do you think being racist is a choice? I can't control what I hate anymore than you control what you love.
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>>302589229
i don't get this argument, is retardation nor acceptable then?
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>>302589533
Yes.
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>>302587950
largely not
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>>302589396
People in the ancient world had gay/bi orgies, christianity ruined that for everyone
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There are genetic tendencies, but you ultimately have control over your sexuality and can change your tastes. But fag propoganda influences people by, despite claiming sexuality is a spectrum, telling people that if you ever have a gay thought once in your life you are 100% gay forever.
t. /d/eviant
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>>302587950
Yes and no.
For me, I grew up in a normal household with no outside sources influenceing me, infact the fact I'm even bisexual is more than likely due to me being born of subconsciously influenced. I grew up in the ghetto or rural southern america. where homo shit is not tolerated. I wasn't molested or had gay family. But i'm bisexual.
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>>302587950
Nobody chooses to be molested
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>>302587950
Yes, for the vast vast majority (99.99%) and it is a mental illness for all of them.

No meme. Mental illness. A sickness.
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>>302588666

Was she hot
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Alright think about it this way;
could YOU suddenly chose to be gay?
No, personally I could not. And I believe that to be the case for most people

Why would you ever believe it to be a [choice] ?
The only way I could figure for it to be logically sound to label it as a choice, is if you believe being gay is only defined by actions
which seems, strange
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Before it was popular among those who are unfortunate enough to be both degenerate and retarded, it was a curse, not a choice. These days, most of them choose their fate, but pretend otherwise for brownie points and because they are pussies.
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>>302590962
It wasn't her. She had a pill habit, and I guess babysitting 8 kids doesn't pay enough.
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Its an urge like any other and you decide to act on it. The urge is stronger in some than others. For some the faggot urge is so strong they find women repulsive. For them we pray.
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>>302590957
>Mental illness. A sickness
I don't understand, when are illnesses and sickness a choice? Lile; people don't choose to be dyslectic
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>>302591006
Could you choose to start liking brussel sprouts even thought you thought them absolutely disgusting as a kid? Through repeated forced exposure and praise from authority figures, yes.
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>>302587950
that meme is so true, the real reason that atheists are this way is because they're resentful or they use it to morally justify their degeneracy(which they know is wrong)
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>>302591053

Damn. Sorry anon
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>>302587950
All faggots should be castrated and then slowly tortured to death.
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>>302590762
can you stop sharing reddit memes?
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>>302591503
You seriously can't comprehend how a sickness can be a choice?

>I've never seen a 400 lb fat retard who chooses to eat too much

You're choosing to stick cock and objects up your ass. It's the definition of a conscious decision.
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being a fag is a fetish
butt pumping is a fetish

having a good friend who pumps your butt isnt love. Love can make babies
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>>302591503
People on /x/ gave themselves schizophrenia through tulpashittery.
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You’re looking at it the wrong way. Homosexuality is a fetish, that’s for certain. But the reason people become degenerate faggots is because of decreased inhibitions, and indulgence of such sodomy. NoFap is unironically the cure for homosexuality. By denying yourself fetishes and sexual degeneracy for long enough, it will get to the point where a female could even arouse a homosexual.

There was extensive research done on this before the medical community became political and stopped. Look up “aversion therapy.” It’s literally just avoiding faggotry and homosexual influences/porn.

NoFap literally cures heterosexual degeneracy as well.
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>>302591618
or the fact that god's not real
go jump off a cliff and ask your god to save you
you never ever will
because you know too
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>>302587950
No
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>>302591929
That’s a good example lmao.
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>>302592037
Probably a bait but that's not how that works.
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>>302591799
I believe a person would be perfectly capable of being gay, without sticking objects up the ass to define it as such
just because some illnesses can be consciously self-inflicted, it obviously don't mean all are
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no thats fucking stupid is it a choice for you to like women? no you just do.
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I stand with LGBT pagans.
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>>302592037
that would only be an argument if you believed in a god that was obligated to save you if you asked it, which most people do not
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>>302592062
How'd you know what image to post to get me absolutely livid?
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>>302589396
>>302588212
You retards don't know history if it's not written in the bible. People in the past were gay as fuck. Ancient greeks grew and spread the use of olive oil primarily as lube and as a cooking ingredient second.
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>>302592062
I really don't understand how you can make Paganism progressive when torturing animals and people are on the agenda.
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>>302592723
Cope chud.
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>>302587950
No. I've been molested as a young teenager and I suspect it played the biggest part in me being a fag now - the first person to ever explore sexuality with me and show me that they're attracted to me was a 30 year old dude. It's not a choice I made consciously, but I also wasn't "born this way".
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>>302587950
Hey, it's a sin to be there and to write that too. Go pray, sacrifice a child in jesus cabal ritual or some shit.
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>>302587950
Sometimes. I think it’s a combination of unnatural environmental factors that contribute to homosexuality (a mental illness)
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>>302588923
>the real red pill is that sexuality doesn't exist
this

Sperm fertilizes eggs in wombs and makes more humans. That's the only part of intercourse that actually matters. The idea of "sexuality" is divorced from human nature.
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>>302591929
again, as this board is very fond of pointing out, there are good reason to believe there is a major link between childhood abuse, and later turning out gay
where's the choice in that?
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>>302587950
Why do you guys always pretend that leftists are against your religion? You've been doing this shit ever since Hannity invented the War of Christmas.
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>>302592914
thor would've thought anyone a different color than him was some kind of demon or some shit
he wasn't a super smart guy
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>>302593079
I’m hoping this a larp anon. Only make 1 post if it is
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>>302592362
I'm fucking Dying Hahahaha
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>>302593308
Here's a second one, no it's not a larp.
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>>302587950
Yes
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>>302593079
bs most males have some kind of gay experience as a kid. they are not gay because of it. you are just born a fag. also you were a fucking teenager lol you know by then if your a fag or not.
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>>302593284
There is no room for racism.
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>>302587950
Only in your case.
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>>302593495
oh. Have you tried fixing it?
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>>302592914
all of those points are demonstrably false
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>>302593495
God help you anon, I will pray for you.
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>>302589533
the better thing for him to cite would be sociopathy
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>>302587950
They should be forced into conversion centres if not
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>>302590056
Spear a thousand pussies, and take just one cock up your ass, and you're not a pussy slayer; you're a faggot, faggot.
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>>302587950
There's plenty of people who were poofters then decided to go straight
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>>302593630
Remember when the aesir were genociding the vanir? Good times, not racist though, just don't like 'em.
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>>302594146
He's the ALL father not the some father.
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>>302593453
That's just the reality of it.
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>>302593814
I hope he’s larping, poles on 4chqn often do this
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>>302587950
Yes. I have a gay sibling, I grew up with them. I know them as well as they know me. They had a choice, they made it. Nothing will ever change my mind, that they had to be this way.

The real tell is in the 90s the left screamed at us "ITS NOT A CHOICE, BIGOT!!!"

Why did they have to be so emphatic and overbearing? Because it's nonsense.

It's a choice.
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>>302587950
no, why the fuck would anyone want to fuck some other guys hairy asshole unless there was something fucking wrong with them?
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>>302594282
He was the father of all (most) of the aesir. Unrelated to the vanir who they murdered and tortured because they were a different race.
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>>302593630
Shutup odinist cuck
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>>302587950
no. why would anyone choose hard mode?
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>>302593204
Is this some sort of joke?
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>>302593098
>factors that contribute to homosexuality (a mental illness)

homosexuality is a mental illness
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>>302587950
Well ya we shamed out pedophilia when it was normal 200yrs ago
50s you could marry a teen
Sexual harassment and fightin wasn’t a big deal
Finding the one repressed freak doesn’t rep most people
Now your city will get 200 furry fags meeting up at the park
If someone’s on the edge why push them there

This isn’t indoctrination, this is gay child grooming
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>>302587950

My theory ... Primarily genetic biological disorder
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>>302587950
Its part biological part choice. There is a genetic DNA trait that leads people to have a predisposition to the gay. I think also there was a study where while the child is in the womb females sometimes get extra testosterone and males estrogen. Also there was something about hyper sexual straight men tend to be recessive carriers of the gay.

There is a social aspect that is learned i think. Left wing people for years kept saying the rising number of gays is from people hiding it, but most of western society embraced it as a good thing around 2008 or 2009. I have no doubt that practices of many milatary cultures that encouraged gay habits as well as producing an kids, started passing on gay genetic line, along with pressure afterwards for their descendants to reproduce.

My maybe if i live to another 50 years i might be able to prove my theory correct that gay population will drop maybe by half because the recessive carriers will continue to have kids while the gay population stops reproducing for the most part.
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>>302587950
In the constant nature vs. nurture debates, about anything, not just sexuality, has there ever been any characteristic that is considered to be 100% nature? Why would sexuality be the one exception?
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>>302593152
It's kind of like being fat. You didn't decide one day that you were going to blimp out (become gay), your parents raised you with bad eating habits(touch your dick and/or fed you a steady diet of gay propoganda). The choice lies in remaining fat (gay).
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>>302588212
Fpbp. This is why it appears uncontrollable because it is uncontrollable by the individual unless outside forces act on it. With modern technology we can easily turn a gay into a straight or a straight into a gay if we put the resources into it. We know what mechanisms control it. Governments spend millions on psychological manipulation because they know it works. The "quest for the gay gene" is bullshit propaganda to give researchers something to occupy their time. They do similar things with physicists and the "grand unifying theory". Some things are dead on arrival, but still get money out into them in order to maintain a high functioning intelligentsia.
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now that I'm older it seems so obvious but it's amazing how do many people can't see it. when you are sexually developing it's like a dam that's building up pressure. sexuality had to be at least a bit flexible because not all womens faces and bodies are the same. there's clearly a function that when sexual stimulation first happens at a young age the mind associates whatever is around it with sexuality. for a kid in today's society this can be anything, seeing a picture, accidentally rubbing up against someone. this is like a crack beginning to emerge in the dam. The pressure will start to focus on that point and break it open more. If you're unconscious of it, there will be a cyclical mind pattern where the mind tries to go to that same thing and get more out of it. once that crack gets big enough it breaks into a hole, and when the whole damn breaks that's what your sexuality is. If the break starts to open towards the same sex, But then is diverted somehow to a new break/the opposite sex, the cyclical thought patterns can be redirected if caught early enough. But once the dams broken it's broken you can't reverse someone's sexuality. there isn't anything left to associate. it's a lot similar to how hard drugs work but permanent. with complete abstinence and no sexual thought as an adult, I think it might be possible to build up enough pressure to associate some new sexuality with the opposite sex, But it will never be like the first time that association happened, and that first association will always remain strongest. people can associate sexual stimulation with anything and become attracted to it. this is how foot fetishes and underwear fetishes happen. I think it's probably good to try and guide your kid into heterosexuality, But something could happen behind the scenes you don't know about like if they get molested by a friend or something and if they are stuck that way there's no point in making the rest of their life shitty its not going to change them
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>>302587950
Yes
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>>302596186
Being fat is commonly defined by stuff like having a BMI over a certain value, a certain body-fat %. You know being FAT

Being gay is a much harder thing for people to agree how to define. But I'm pretty sure you'll hear a lot of people say "a sexual attraction to other men", keyword being attraction
As in, you could be perfectly gay, without ever taken a single cock. You could harbor an immense cocklust and choose to remain undicked.

Or still be heterosexual, even if someone forcibly inserted their penis into your asshole
It's not a physical state, like being fat
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>>302587950
It's complicated. Some of it is innate or else gays wouldn't have existed in societies that aggressively suppressed homosexuality. But stuff like exposure to pornography and being molested can also warp what a person is attracted to. And on top of that you have societal influence like how in some ancient civilizations raping another dude was OK but being raped (or voluntarily taking it from another guy) made you a faggot and so the former behavior was pretty common. A similar thing happens today with prison rape.
Basically, sexuality isn't as clear cut as people pretend it is, but the variations that we identify as distinct sexualities are based on some truth.
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>>302598137
What does that have to do with what I said?
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>>302587950
Yes.
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>>302587950
I just like cocks, I don't care one way or the other.
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>>302596565
the quest for the gay gene is over, there isnt one. but of course you wouldnt hear about this because they want people to think that they have no choice and no hope and that they're stuck with it. google "gay gene" and you'll see what i mean. i cant post the link here annoyingly enough.
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>>302587950
you can't be gay as the 'only person on the planet'
to be gay is a choice of opportunity
that's why there is more gays today than ever
>it was popularized as a choice in ((media))
I read a pdf a while ago about the gays in new york that created the notion of being 'born-gay' and took it to court - it was to call anyone that disagreed with their 'actions'(choices) bigoted because it can't be helped as they 'were born gay' and it becomes an attack on their liberty/life as opposed to their 'choices', subsequently you can't call them out for their actions - which at the time in new york was bumming in the public bushes in central park etc and people were 'complaining'. (80s I think)
people that 'believe' they are 'born gay' 'want' no accountability for their 'actions/choices' and so claim 'no control' over them instead, with the intent being able to bum in the bushes and not be called out for 'that'
it's exploitation to call it 'born gay'
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>>302588402
you're a degenerate
t. straight
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>>302596186
You're referring to compulsive, impulsive hedonism.
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>>302587950
Sticking it up the shitbox has never been a genetic trait and never will be. It's not even a state. It's just a behavior.

>Homosexuality inherited from millions of years of heterosexuality.

They were almost all messed with at an early age. It's heartbreaking. So maybe a choice. Maybe a trauma compulsion.
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all consensual sex is a choice.

degenerate niggers
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>>302598572
Alright
Craving sweets doesn't make you fat
CHOOSING to eat the sweets is what would make you fat

Craving cocks makes you gay
CHOOSING to fuck men is what would give you AIDS
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>>302591006
It's a choice that some people make. That doesn't make it not a choice assholeface.

Some people choose to kill children and drive off cliffs. Just because I would never even consider doing those two things doesn't mean that other people don't make horrible choices.
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>>302591614
True.

>>302589396
They want to promote homosexuality and such as a spiritual awakening.
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You must decide to put a dick in your mouth.
Dicks don't automatically end up in your mouth.
It requires a choice.
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>>302598795
this came up.
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>>302589533
i'll make it easy to understand
being retarded is the same as being smart. oh wait no actually it's better. actually you're hitler if you're not retarded. we should have our kids kill their braincells to lower their iq to be retarded.
there. in b4 "nuh uh that's a strawman" no it isn't.
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>>302599729
Do gay virgins exist?
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>>302599729
You must decide to don't be a degenerate
degeneracy doesn't automatically end up in your mind.
It requires a choice.
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>>302600068
probably no, in fact, I bet many faggots are faggots just because it was too hard for them to get laid.
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Bah, claiming that desires are choices seems intellectually dishonest, dogmatic
not a claim of a someone that knows their own mind

"NICE tits, I want to FUCK". Ever thought something like that, but chosen not to act on it? Yeah
Do you decide, every single things you want, of course you don't
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>>302601386
>decide, every single things you want, of course you don't

Because the human mind has a subconscious, faggotry is valid and good.
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>>302601963
I didn't say it was good, retard
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>>302602040
All your posts are you being a weasel defending buttsex.
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https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/Ryan-Sorba-The-Born-Gay-Hoax.pdf
>>302587950
>>302598917
I think this was it, I cba reading through it all
it covers how and why and ultimately that it's a choice and a political tool
(took a minute to find)
>In New York men regularly
engaged in public sex acts with anonymous partners “in the backs of trucks
parked near the West Village piers”32 and in public restrooms. Sodomy occurred
so frequently in the bushes of one public park that the authorities were forced to
cut down the trees to stop it.
https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/Ryan-Sorba-The-Born-Gay-Hoax.pdf
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>>302598991
based
t. Based department
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>>302601963
beastiality, pedo, rape, rage,

ALL valid.
not good, idiot.
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>>302587950
Same sex attraction is probably not a choice or a large % of it is not a choice. Actually engaging in homosexual activity is 100% optional unless you are being raped.
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>>302603523
define valid, queer
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>>302587950
Good thread. Upvoted.
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>>302592062
Kek, this retarded shitlib pagan faggot again! Is this ironic or are you being serious with your cringe all father pagan posting??



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