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need some high IQ talking points anons. Most of my family are pissed that I won't take the jab. In particular, one of aunt's gets all worked up about it. She started comparing the covid vaxx to her polio shot back in the day. I just ignored it. However, the next time I want to red pill her. So, why is the covid vaccine different? Less research? Rushed? I just don't want to take it. Yet, I am tired of arguing with relatives about why I won't take it. Give me some quick shutdown counter points on polio va Corona
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>>331009804
coronaviruses exist for decades, they didn't kill them with vaccines before and they wont do it now
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>polio vaccine
>fucked up people so bad they needed iron lungs
>blame the disease
retarded back then, retarded now
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>>331009804
salk's polio vaccine was no different, a lot of unkill virus got out and gave people polio, which was caused by malnutrition to begin with, also the guy handling it was the gestapo

read this

https://aim4truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/The-FauciCOVID-19-Dossier.pdf
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>>331010681
sure but it's a lot cheaper to get crap in your body with an injection than in food products
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>>331009804
no difference, both are made by jews to poison you, this one uses a newer tech to kill you.
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>>331009804
http://www.sv40.org/
Polio vax gives people cancer.
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>>331009804
Polio was the original virus hoax. Look in nyt archives. You have to pay but its worth it. I'm phone posting at work now can't dump folder.
Back in 1917-1920 they were running this hoax in nyc. Same conversation we are having publicly now
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>>331009804
The polio vax actually caused more kids to go paralyzed.
The actual virus rarely caused paralysis. Also infections rates were very low,
Also kids get paralyzed today by similar retro viruses to this day at the same rates, its just never on the news
Also disease rates dropped for all meme viruses in the 1950s because of proper sanitation and cleanliness not because of jew meme vaccines
Jonas and salk were also kikes. They just tested different meme juices attenuated through monkeys and tested it on human lab rats but they found a vax with little side effects

Vaccines were originally a good idea by jenner in the 1700s but once they started mass producing vax in horses and monkeys it all got fucked

Also the Rockefeller patriarch created his wealth as a snake oil salesman. After their oil monopoly crashes down they invented the modern pharmaceutical industry by creating university labs in order to give their new snake oil prestige.

Modern medicine discovered some good things but they don't even know the mechanism of action of Tylenol. Everything is just trial and error. Most of it is snake oil to this day.

This is the deepest red pill you will ever get regarding medicine sorry for the phone post
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>>331013544
*jonas and sabin
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>>331009804
And kys 1pbtid faggot I dropped massive red pill
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>>331009804
SAME FUCKING THREAD EVERY FEW HOURS!! STOP FUCKING MAKING THIS SAME THREAD EVERY FEW HOURS!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>331009804
before polio vax polio was defined in some way
after polio vax they changed the definition
that why polio vax worked on the paper

now the once known as cold, rebranded as virus flu by the pharma, is transitioning (along with other cardiovascular diseases such as pneumonia) to the covid virus.

all world's a stage, so words are quite important
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>>331013825
Kikes data mining
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>>331009804
Phone posting. Keep it bumped.
Will start Salkposting in ten minutes.
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>>331012721
>Malnutrition
Chemicals in the crops bruh.
The stuff that killed the bugs was literally a nerve agent.
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>>331014014
OP is a kike or bot but fuck them both, post red pills
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>>331010681
But they did kill all of the test animals using corona vaccines. find this article on DuckGo...written in 2012

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to
Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the
SARS Virus"
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>>331013929
>>331014014
I'm phone posting too anon. But destroying the polio myth is the only way to convince boomers and normies. See my post >>331013544 here
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>>331009804
Polio wasn’t “cured” with the vax. The cases were on the decline before the vax was introduced. After the vax, they just rebranded polio as the symptoms didn’t go away (delta variant)
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>>331014358
The polio hoax is the medical industry equivalent of the holohoax. Unimaginable lies heavy propaganda that is so deeply ingrained it influences all policy today

Polio needs unironically debunked.
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>>331013544
My uncle was in a full body cast from the vax. Terrifying photos
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>>331009804
my mom had a facial paralysis after her polio vaccin that she kept for atleast 3 weeks, she needed an eye patch as she couldn't close her eye anymore...
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>>331009804
Salk wrote in 1973 the following.
I have it on substack if someone wants a link to all my caps.
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And just the two most pertinent portions as I'm in a hurry.
https://mrweempers.substack.com/p/salk-1973-survival-of-the-wisest
1/2
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>>331015238
2/2
Read these two pages in full. Show them to your family.
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>>331015133
At first it was just a money making scheme, now money is secondary. Killing and controlling the population is now their primary agenda
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>>331016200
>now
This was 50 years ago.
I'd say they are onto something even more nefarious.
But regardless. This is the perspective of the most notable vaccine scientist of pretty much all time.
He thinks vaccines should be used to control the population.
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>>331009804
My grandfather got Polio back before the vaccine. I'm named after somebody who died in their youth because vaccines weren't available at the time. I have the highest respect for Vaccines... But these things? Not a chance.

This situation we are in now is not equivalent to Polio. Polio existed for all of time It didn't come out of a lab in China.

Just send them the New York Times article about J&J settling on causing the Opioid crisis..
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>>331016439
>j&j
You mean the Sackler family, the jew family, you fucking kike
>my grandfather died from polio, thus polio was a serious health crisis and not a meme crisis
I bet your grandmother survived 5 gassing too.
Rot in hell you jidf shill
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>>331016350
>most notable scientist
He was a jew, a jew meme scientist just like Einstein.
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Only 5 real anons itt. 4chan is dead
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>>331016439
This is possibly the only rational post in this thread. If OP wants to 'red pill' then point out that the polio vaccine was derived with a weakened virus sample. These mRNA-type vaccines are trying to combat the virus by altering our chemical structure. Two very different things. This new vaccine is dangerous and should not be taken. I went to school with a boy who caught polio but survived, polio was no myth. It wiped out thousands upon thousands of people. Those that survived were generally crippled for life. I have to say that most of the ones saying this is a hoax have flat-earth mentalities or have simply smoked so much pot that that they now can only conceive that everything is a hoax. I'm leaving this retarded thread so waste your reeing.
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>>331009804
>shutdown counter points
1. It's experimental.
2. Known short-term side-effects.
3. Unknown long-term side-effects.
4. Vaccines in general are dangerous.
5. Only some vaccines actually needed.
6. Piss off.
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>>331009804
>So, why is the covid vaccine different?

Because its a different disease? There's miles of difference between something like smallpox or malaria vs. The flu.

If covid legitimately had like a 10% fatality rate then all the panic, hype, and vaccine propaganda would be totally understandable and I would on here saying yeah take it. If they had even just ealked back the initial panic last June and said "oh well it's not as bad as we thought, anyway here is a vaccine, you should probably take it" and it was left at that and the encouragement was about the same level as the annual flu shots then maybe it would be something to consider. That is not what is happening, and the root of my distrust stems from this - there is an awful lot of pushing going on for a disease that is basically inconsequential and is just not that dangerous to anyone under 65. Instead they are acting like the jab is the only way to save you from this deadly black plague 2.0.

Imagine you saw an ad for a used car that said "new tires, new paint, 30,000 miles, runs perfectly with no mechanical issues". Then you go look at it, and the paint is rusted, the tires are flat, and the odometer reads over 200k. Will you still trust the salesman that is telling you there are no mechanical issues?

I don't trust people that lie to me, and you should not either. Especially not people that have provably lied to you constantly for a year and a half and are attempting to revoke basic civil liberties based on such.
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>>331016439
>>331017477
Kikes are scared. Don't let this thread die now bros idgaf
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>>331016924
What's your point?
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>>331009804
she's right. it's time totrust those politicians with your health and privacy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYTb9DwKjQ
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>>331016742
One last post. This argument is typical of a jewish argument. You are trying to correlate this highly questionable vaccine (and the very necessary polio vaccine) with the authenticity of the holohoax thereby giving credibility to the jew myth by your incredibly stupid argument. The tl;dr is that if anyone here is a jew it must be you.
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>>331017477
>please believe at least the polio lie
This anon is an idiot or shill.
See my Salk posts. They aren't rational?
>>331015133
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>>331009804
polio stopped when DDT stopped you twit. the polio "vax" is as useless as the fake "covid" vax. get your head out of your ass and do 3 min of research.
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>>331009804
>Yet, I am tired of arguing with relatives
Then stop, retard. Why are you arguing with NPC's? It's pointless.
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>>331009804
just make her angrier and angrier.
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>>331010891
>>331012721
And then the version of it after that turned out to be seriously carcinogenic. It took them three tries to make one that wasn't more dangerous than the disease it was supposed to prevent.
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>>331017670
>>331017772
Yes your posts are rational but miss important point. Which is that polio was a meme virus that infected very few people, and even fewer had life time paralysis and even fewer actually died. The family of retroviruses still paralyze and kill people today in similar numbers, when accounting for better sanitation.
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>>331009804
Your aunt never got a polio 'shot', it was an oral vaccine. She probably ate a sugar cube with a drop of vaccine on it.
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>>331017756
Take your pilpul somewhere else you evil kike shill
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>>331009804
It’s a vaccine like the polio one, just a slightly different mechanism. Why are you so against it if you can’t even defend your reasoning?
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>>331009804
Don't argue, there's no point. Say you don't want it, that's reason enough. You won't redpill them. However if you really want to try look into how polio is spread. If you have access to modern plumbing and you don't shit in the streets (i.e. the 1st world), polio does not exist.

Also >>331012868 is correct. You can find information about this on the CDC's website. They found that SV40 does cause cancer, but not until much later after people had already taken it.
>but we don't use SV40 anymore so meh, no more research or ethics questions to answer here.
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>>331017756
I'm phone posting yet digging thru archives I'm sick of these lying kike shills they need pogromed
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Salk was despised by his colleagues for not crediting the others who shared in the creation of the polio vaccine
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>>331016742
>>331015238
>the polio is a box schizo
>muh Salk
Those pages have nothing to do with vaccines, I don’t know why you even think they are relevant
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>>331018381
I have not lied or been incorrect about a single post itt. These two kikes come in and tag team >>331016439 >>331017477
Sharing stories that are ridiculous holohoax tier bullshit. I can't stand these people and their lies anymore anons
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>>331018789
Those graphs are not accurate and scarlet fever is bacterial, you may be one of the biggest brainlets on this board, and that’s saying a lot
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>>331018010
That's not missing a point.
That's another point entirely.

And again, it was DDT and chemicals on the food. You are propagating a lie.
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>>331009804
The average age of death for polio was like 14
Average age of death for covid is in the 70s
Tell you’re aunt she’s a self centered, hysterical retard, and we’ll all be better off if she does get covid and die
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>>331018988
It literally describes exactly what mRNA vaccines are doing.
The book is very clear. You are on /pol/ and can't read between any lines?
You are correct, he doesn't say "Hey fellow Jews, let's exterminate the goy with vaccines."
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>>331018357
>>331018988
>polio juice and rona juice are the same just different mechanisms
Yes if you change the definition of vaccine you pilpuling kike

But I reject your entire premise. The polio vax was unnecessary and dangerous.

I compare the polio hoax to the holohoax only because they are two great lies. The hoolohoax myth cripples are foreign policy and we kneel to niggers domestically. The polio myth cripples the health of our society.
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>>331019236
>not accurate.
Lying kike
>no vax for scarlet fever
Says it in the file.
Why are you a pilpuling kike?

>>331019239
Whats the lie retard?
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>>331018789
Those grapas are good, but do we have similar ones to the infección rate in total, considering non deadly infections? If graphslike these are available it could be another btfo to the vaxxcucks
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>>331019330
>promoting the culling of boomers
Agreed
>polio was a major public health crisis
You're still blue pilled anon, look at the stats, look at the data over the 20th century. Look at current year child paralysis numbers.. .
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>>331019825
This.
>>331019886
There's mountains of information in the archives. I'm phone posting at work or I'd dump my folder.
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>>331018958
>>331019067
>>331019213
>>331019825
Ultra rare based leaf
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boop beep beep
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>>331018789
Change in diet ??
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>>331021832
>why?
Why what? Why did the above disease rates drop?
There is a lot of speculation why. Vaxxes aren't the reason though, but jews want to say it is.
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>>331019067
>"I'm feeling kind of strange (about this); poison and Jews rarely make good news"
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>>331022990
Thanks for the translation. The polihoax needs exposed
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DDT
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>>331025169
Old reel footage
https://youtu.be/IT5WS0UmHmM
They kept spraying DDT in neighborhoods to fight polio...
Then when the vax comes they stop
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Oct. 31, 2003 -- A mystery has been brewing about late president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and the paralysis that struck him in midlife.A group of researchers has found evidence that Guillain-Barre syndrome -- not polio - may have been the cause of Roosevelt's (FDR's) paralysis.The news comes a half-century after FDR's presidency, which spanned the Great Depression of the 1930s and most of World War II. It is published this month in the Journal of Medical Biography.The paralysis struck him in 1921, when FDR was 39 years old, writes researcher Armond S. Goldman, MD, emeritus professor of pediatrics at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.It happened while FDR was vacationing with his family on Campobello Island, New Brunswick. He had fallen into the cold waters of the Bay of Fundy on Aug. 9. The next day he sailed, spent several hours helping put out a fire, even jogged a few miles, which usually left him "glowing," he said later. But that night, he went to bed early, chilled and very tired.
The next morning, one leg was weak; by afternoon, it was paralyzed. Quickly, the paralysis overtook all his extremities, and although he regained function of the upper limbs, his legs never recovered.At the time, doctors diagnosed the disease as poliomyelitis, which was at epidemic proportions in the northeast U.S., where FDR lived -- even though few adults over age 30 had contracted polio. Polio was one of few known causes of paralysis.But many of FDR's symptoms did not match polio -- they were more typical of Guillain-Barre syndrome: the progression of his paralysis, the numbness, extreme prolonged pain, and the pattern of recovery from the paralysis.Whereas patients with mild to moderate Guillain-Barre syndrome usually recover entirely, those with severe disease who are not treated by modern methods often experience permanent paralysis, notes Goldman.
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>>331027509
The mystery of FDR's illness will likely never be completely solved, since several diagnostic tests were not available at the time, he says. Even if Guillain-Barre syndrome had been diagnosed in 1921, Roosevelt's outcome would have been the same since treatment was not discovered until the late 20th century.
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>>331009804
As someone in your position I usually go off a few talking points:

-Why should I get the vaccine when the sickness isn't dangerous? (the response to this is usually "long covid" you can remind them we dont know if "long vaccine" is a thing yet.)

-The combination of medicine and politics plus the timing of covid19 has tainted faith in this vaccine.

-The fear porn did not work a year ago, don't believe it will work now just because it has the word "delta" in the name. (remind them you don't know anyone whos died from any type of covid.)

-If covid and vaccine side effects are comparable then it's in my best interest to not get the vaccine since I may never catch covid

-The vaccine was turbo rushed.

None of this will redpill anyone but it's really simple logic that even normies can understand, they do usually have counters to the things I said but the counters are retarded or are just untrue so dealing with them should be easy.

Also as I was typing this my mom came into my room to tell I really should get the vaccine because delta is "1000x more dangerous." You can also remind normies that crazy numbers are almost always bullshit.
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>>331009804
So here that they were vaccinating polio after everyone had immunity. Theres a good chart somewhere.
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>>331009804
Polio vax ( all three kinds) is an inactivated (dead) poliovirus. The presence of the dead virus causes your body to act like it is infected and mount an immune response to the actual virus itself. Your body 'remembers' how to fight off poliovirus from the vax and can defend itself effectively if it is exposed to the live virus. The polio vax was so effective that wild poliovirus was almost erradicated because it could not find any hosts in which it would survive.

The corona vax is NOT an inactivated virus, It isn't really a vaccine at all. It is actually a man made virus which infects your bodies cells and forces them to manufacture a foreign protien (the much storied 'spike protien'). It does this by introducing a strand of genetic material (RNA) to the cell just like a wild virus would. That forces your body to mount an immune response TO YOUR OWN CELLS that produce the protien. Since the same spike protien is found on the coronachan virus the theory is that your immune system will 'remember' its reponse to the spike protien when you were infected by the vax and use that memory to fight off the coronachan virus when it is exposed to it later.

Unfortunately the initial immune reponse to the coronachan vax, especially in young people with robust immune systems, damages the cells that are forced to produce the spike protien severely enough to cause profound life threatening inflammation. The vax is designed to infect muscle cells so that is where this inflammation tends to be worse. Heart and skeletal muscles can be irreparably damaged by your own immune system. There fore side effects can be heart inflammation and muscle palsy.
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>>331009804
Why would anyone compare a real disease to covid corporate cold (tm)
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>>331026702
Savd.
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>>331030123
Polio was the original meme hoax virus.
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>>331031523
https://youtu.be/gtcXXbuR244
DDT so safe you can eat it
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1890: Lead arsenate pesticide started to be sprayed in the US up to 12 times every summer to kill codling moth on apple crops.

1892: Polio outbreaks began to occur in Vermont, an apple growing region. In his report the Government Inspector Dr. Charles Caverly noted that parents reported that some children fell ill after eating fruit. He stated that 'infantile paralysis usually occurred in families with more than one child, and as no efforts were made at isolation it was very certain it was non-contagious' (with only one child in the family having been struck).

1907: Calcium arsenate comes into use primarily on cotton crops.

1908: In a Massachusetts town with three cotton mills and apple orchards, 69 children suddenly fell ill with infantile paralysis.

1909: The UK bans apple imports from the States because of heavy lead arsenate residues.

1921: Franklin D. Roosevelt develops polio after swimming in Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick. Toxicity of water may have been due to pollution run-off.

1943: DDT is introduced, a neurotoxic pesticide. Over the next several years it comes into widespread use in American households. For example, wall paper impregnated with DDT was placed in children's bedrooms.

1943: A polio epidemic in the UK town of Broadstairs, Kent is linked to a local dairy where cows were washed down with DDT.

1944: Albert Sabin reports that a major cause of sickness and death of American troops based in the Philippines was poliomyelitis. US military camps there were sprayed daily with DDT to kill mosquitoes. Neighboring Philippine settlements were not affected.
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>>331032118
1944: NIH reports that DDT damages the same anterior horn cells that are damaged in infantile paralysis.

1946: Gebhaedt shows polio seasonality correlates with fruit harvest.

1949: Endocrinologist Dr Morton Biskind, a practitioner and medical researcher, found that DDT causes 'lesions in the spinal cord similar to human polio.'

1950: US Public Health Industrial Hygiene Medical Director, J.G. Townsend, notes the similarity between parathion poisoning and polio and believes that some polio might be caused by eating fruits or vegetables with parathion residues.

1951: Dr. Biskind treats his polio patients as poisoning victims, removing toxins from food and environment, especially DDT contaminated milk and butter. Dr. Biskind writes: 'Although young animals are more susceptible to the effects of DDT than adults, so far as the available literature is concerned, it does not appear that the effects of such concentrations on infants and children have even been considered.'

1949-1951: Other doctors report they are having success treating polio with anti toxins used to treat poisoning, dimercaprol and ascorbic acid. Example: Dr. F. R. Klenner reported: 'In the poliomyelitis epidemic in North Carolina in 1948 60 cases of this disease came under our care... The treatment was massive doses of vitamin C every two to four hours. Children up to four years received vitamin C injection intramuscularly... All patients were clinically well after 72 hours.'

1950: Dr. Biskind presents evidence to the US Congress that pesticides were the major cause of polio epidemics. He is joined by Dr. Ralph Scobey who reported he found clear evidence of poisoning when analyzing chemical traces in the blood of polio victims.
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>>331032190
1953: Clothes are moth-proofed by washing them in EQ-53, a formula containing DDT.

1953: Dr. Biskind writes: 'It was known by 1945 that DDT was stored in the body fat of mammals and appears in their milk... yet far from admitting a causal relationship between DDT and polio that is so obvious, which in any other field of biology would be instantly accepted, virtually the entire apparatus of communication, lay and scientific alike, has been devoted to denying, concealing, suppressing, distorting and attempts to convert into its opposite this overwhelming evidence. Libel, slander, and economic boycott have not been overlooked in this campaign.'

1954: Legislation recognizing the dangers of persistent pesticides is enacted, and a phase out of DDT in the US accelerates along with a shift of sales of DDT to third world countries.

(Note that DDT is phased out at the same time as widespread polio vaccinations begin. Saying that, polio cases sky rocket only in communities that accept the polio vaccine, as the polio vaccine is laced with heavy metals and other toxins, so the paralysis narrative starts all over again. As the polio vaccines cause huge spikes in polio, the misinformed public demand more polio vaccine and the cycle spirals skyward exponentially)

1956: the American Medical Association mandated that all licensed medical doctors could no longer classify polio as polio. All polio diagnosis would be rejected in favor of Guillian-Barre Syndrome, AFP (acute flaccid paralysis), Bell's Palsy, Cerebral Palsy, ALS, (Lou-Gehrig's Disease), MS, MD etc etc. This sleight of hand was fabricated with the sole intent of giving the public the impression that the polio vaccine was successful at decreasing polio or eradicating polio. The public bought this hook, line and sinker and to this very day, many pro vaccine arguments are ignited by the manufactured lie regarding the polio vaccine eradicating polio.
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>>331032354
1962: Rachel Carson's Silent Spring is published.

1968: DDT registration cancelled for the US.

2008: Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) is still a raging in many parts of the world where pesticide use is high, and DDT is still used. AFP. MS, MD, Bell's Palsy, cerebral palsy, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Guillian-Barre are all catch basket diagnosis, all similar in symtpoms, tied to heavy metal poisoning and high toxic load.

2008: WHO states on its website: 'There is no cure for polio. Its effects are irreversible.'
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>>331009804
Next time she asks, use a hammer and an ice pick and apply picrel. They did that back in her days as well. (Later they decided that it's harmful and unethical, but that's another story.)
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>>331009804
>How Improved Public Sanitation Created the Polio Epidemic
https://parentingpatch.com/improved-public-sanitation-created-polio-epidemic/

>More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
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>>331032482
thanks, anon
saved
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>>331032482
thanks brain fren

>>331033377
czech'd
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>>331009804
Sanitation (sewers toilets yeah no shit not walking around in human shit prevents diseases like polio) and sanitation did it, not the vaccines polio was allready in decline for 20 years before the polio vaccine came out.
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>>331033377
saved as well for pasta
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>>331033377
Let's not forget the last jew spray that caused a meme virus.

Remember Zika? I'm sure brazil anons remember.

Zika virus was responsible for Microcephaly in kids in Brazil. However, a virus discovered in 1947 magically caused microcephaly from only 2015 to 2016, and only in Brazil

Due to Zika virus, more than 1,600 babies were born in Brazil with microcephaly, or abnormally small heads, from September 2015 through April 2016. The epidemic took health professionals by surprise because the virus had been known since 1947 and was not linked to birth defects.

Magically, the virus doesn't do that anymore...after the areas also stopped using certain mosquito pesticides.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5760164/

https://www.sciencealert.com/argentinian-report-says-monsanto-linked-pesticide-is-to-blame-for-microcephaly-outbreak-not-zika
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>>331009804
She notes that in the 1976 Swine
Flu vaccine campaign (in which 25% of the U.S. population at that time, 55 million Americans,
were vaccinated), the Swine Flu vaccine was deemed dangerous and unsafe, and removed from
the market, even though the vaccine resulted in only 53 deaths.

https://archive.is/956Ar
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>>331010681
Fpbp.
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>>331034748
but they used the virus as an excuse to release GMO mutant mosquitos
>https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/scientists-to-release-genetically-modified-mosquitos-in-florida-to-combat-dengue-zika-232106346.html
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This was the most obvious and blatant cover story I'd ever seen.
It's amazing the gall of these people and the lengths they'll go to.
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>>331035022
Nice red pills anons
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>>331035022
They make the problem worse than have a solution to the problem which ends up being worse. Its always worse.

Progressivism is judaism



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