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https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/economie/life/artikel/5334844/tarieven-essent-vattenfall-eneco-greenchoice-oktober-fors-omhoog

>electricity prices in the Netherlands will be increased by 50-70% starting from October
>gas prices to be increased by another 30%
>electricity will be increased by another 100% in January
>inflation already at 12%+
>Euro lost nearly 20% of its value vs USD essentially double-dipping the loss of purchasing power from inflation

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>396548232

Hahahahahahaahaha

Die
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Just die

Why did you insult russia than ?

Just die painfully
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Take that Putin!
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>>396548232
I saw on gilligan's island that the professor made electricity by pedaling a bicycle. You guys ride bicycles everywhere. Just ride them in your homes.
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just think of putin as you eat your cold herring and potato stix
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>>396548232
kek, you will eat ze bugs and suck jewish cock
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>>396548499
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT UKROPS I NEVER WANTED ANY OF THIS. I CAN'T EVEN COPE WITH VIDYA ANYMORE LITERALLY 2K SHEKELS FOR A GRAPHICS CARD!!
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Oh no, hungry. Belly hurts.
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>>396548652
kek
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>>396548232
european cunts have gotten off too lightly for living in tiny nationstates with little to no resources, even tho nl actually has a bit of oil
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>>396548232
>electricity prices in the Netherlands will be increased by 50-70% starting from October
Your prices to consumers are lagging compared to what the producers pay?
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>>396548232
best of luck over there sven

we all know how to solve those problems ja?

start shooting the politicians........

oops I can't beleive I typed that

its true tho
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>>396549989
Contract payments. You make a deal to pay a certain amount for a certain time period. If prices skyrocket during that period, you won't pay a cent more as the consumer. But once the deal expires you will have to pay the new rates which are now much higher. October is when these new rates kick in, and another in January.
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>>396548232
>Electricity prices will be increased by 50% next week
Not until after the USA mid term elections dummy
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>>396550536
Ours is going up 40% next week too
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>>396549989
I think that's on purpose. The general public now thinks 'oh, it's not too bad' but then they get fired from their job because their companies went under and everything in the supermarket gets more expensive because the producers receive the real prices.
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>>396548232
>government makes a deal with energy suppliers to introduce a maximum price.
>they sell it as a benefit to the people
>it's actually a benefit to the energy companies as the government now guarantees their profits

they are fucking SCUM and deserve nothing but a noose around their necks
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>>396548671
when you purchase amerimutt stuff of course your currency will lose value. The irony is that those gpus cannot be made without you guys either, you're paying for something thet isn't possible with you guys at absurd rates.
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>>396548232
I waste power all day long, my bill every month is $35CDN
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>>396548232
Haha
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>>396551157
get on my level retard, i pay 700bdt/m prob 7-8e
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>>396548232
Never learn
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>>396550925
>Ours is going up 40% next week too
The price would have gone up 70% but like I said they will try to keep them down until after the USA midterm elections, for optics and so our gov't doesn't have to tell it's citizens we sharing our energy with euro states.
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>>396548232
100% for me
the hotline to the electrical provider are unavailable
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>>396548232
bet you wish you had 120v now.
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>>396548538
Actually good advice. They can make generators out of coconuts too
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>>396548232
what are you paying for gas/electricity anon?
Me 15ct for gas 35ct for electricity projected to double both next year. There isnt much we can do thinking about leaving but there is still the fucking vaccine requirement for the US.
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>>396551344
>bigger number, more money
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>>396551127
yep like I said in the OP the devaulation of the Euro vs USD is basically another layer of purchasing power losses over inflation. That GPU would have been 1600 Euro had it been launched six months ago.
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>>396548232
None of your problem, right bro? Hope you like it. It hasn't even begun.
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>>396548232
Love or hate her this is what Merkel spent most of her energy trying to avoid, letting Europe suicide itself by jumping head first into the empty swimming pool of jewmerican foreign policy over Russia. What's happening now in Europe isn't collateral damage it's by design, destroying two competitors, Russia and the EU, with one stone. And you ate it all up
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>>396551669
electricity is 29ct, will be increased to 44ct next week, and will double by january but they're planning to introduce a price cap in january at 70ct (which will fail) to prevent this from happening.

also fun fact there's news articles popping up of germans fueling their cars over across the border lol
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>>396550375
>Contract payments
We pay the real time cost, so we had the increases months ago.
I can tell you this though, the anger will be something everybody feel and it will scare your politicians.
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>>396551812
>this is what Merkel spent most of her energy trying to avoid,
(((Kasner))) illegally abolished ALL nuclear power plants in Germany.
This time 6 million for real.
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>>396548232
You deserve it for being shitty posters on /chug/
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>>396548232
Burn da poo poo
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>>396550933
>I think that's on purpose
I think it's just an inheritance from how you had organized your energy market to consumers.
What the lag has done is to create over consumption when you should have saved energy, so now everything will get worse than if you had paid the increases at once.
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>>396551622
>100% for me
You are still being subsidized then.
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>>396551812
I think the destruction of the EU is a good thing, so I don't mind.
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>>396552018
>(((Kasner))) illegally abolished ALL nuclear power plants in Germany.
how is the price for electricity in france?
they have nuclear energy?
stfu you retard
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>>396548232
Ik haat de antijezus
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>>396552608
EU law says that all electricity must be sold at the price of electricity made from natural gas, because fuck you
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>>396552701
I thought it was only market forces that made gas decide the price for electricity, but I don't put it past Germoney to drive a law like this through.
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>>396552608
They have dozens offline rn
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>>396551989
>also fun fact there's news articles popping up of germans fueling their cars over across the border lol
I thought it was the other way you guys where fueling your cars in Germany. Atm super is 1.83 on sundays.
Yeah we are all fucked my provider isn't even accepting new gas customer anymore and the only other provider demands 50ct/kWh now.
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>>396553073
if market forces had been allowed to operate the entirety of the EU would be powered by nuclear, with hydro filling in most of the surge/reserve capacity and a couple gas burners just in case
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>>396553829
>if market forces had been allowed to operate the entirety of the EU would be powered by nuclear
Yes.
Russia is using nuclear power to liquefy their natural gas in stead of burning gas to do it, and that tells us that nuclear is cheaper.
Hydro is the cheapest though, but only Norway and Sweden have enough.
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>>396553577
>the only other provider demands 50ct/kWh now.
One market means one price, so what provider you have is more or less irrelevant.
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>>396548232
Electricity went to 1 cent a kWh in 1971 and then they went off the gold standard.
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>>396551127
the dutch stuff in the value stack (machines) is pretty low. most of it is in the design and material.
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>>396552408
We had the highest electricity prices globally even before the kikewar.
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>>396554583
So what, and I doubt that is even true.
If your bill has only increased 100%, then you are being subsidized.
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dutch bros you also gonna have to pay more taxes too?
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>>396548232
Just don't pay them. Convince others to not pay
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>>396553829
>Muh market forces
Absolutely kill yourself
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>>396548232
This is what you wanted. Why are you failing in your devotion to Zelensky?
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>>396554503
We literally dont manufacture anything. Our economy has always been service and exports of other peoples goods
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>>396555009
very jewish
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>>396555069
No wonder why people call us the jews of white people
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>>396548232
Europe is fucked!!!

> Habeck warnt vor großen Verlusten
> Zugleich sagte Habeck, er rechne in der aktuellen Energiekrise mit großen Verlusten für die deutsche Wirtschaft. Wegen des Einkaufs von Energie aus anderen Quellen als den bisherigen verliere die deutsche Volkswirtschaft in diesem Jahr knapp 60 Milliarden Euro. Im kommenden Jahr könnten es vor allem durch den Verzicht auf russische Energie knapp 100 Milliarden Euro Verlust werden, hieß es weiter. Das entspräche laut Habeck „über die Jahre gerechnet“ zwei Prozent des Bruttoinlandsprodukts.


> Economy minister Robert Habeck warns of major losses!
> At the same time, Habeck said he expected major losses for the German economy in the current energy crisis. Because of the purchase of energy from sources other than the previous ones, the German economy will lose almost 60 billion euros this year. In the coming year, there could be a loss of almost 100 billion euros, mainly due to the lack of Russian energy. According to Habeck, “calculated over the years”, this would correspond to two percent of gross domestic product.

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/robert-habeck-beschreibt-die-arbeitsbelastung-in-seinem-ministerium-18337025.html
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So if they introduce a legal price cap won't the energy companies immediately raise their prices to be that exact maximum price, completely destroying competition and the free market?
And who exactly is that supposed to protect?
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>>396555170
germany has trillions it will be fine play nice with china i guess lol.
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>>396555009
ASML is a dutch companies and they supply the fab machines to all the silicon companies.
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They want a new war between white countries. There is no other explanation. They want to finish us off after all these poison injections.
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>>396555282
> germany has trillions
We are trillions in debt faggot!

The increased energy expenditures will be more than 2% of the GDP. More than our military expenditures!
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>>396555473
I meant only the increase will be 2%. Accumulating to the already existing expenditures.
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>>396548671
Buy Xbox and gamepass if you're poor
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>>396548232
no matter what happens, I'll be comfy with my steam deck
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>>396551989
Lol I pay 56 cents for electricity and we don't even get your wages.
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>>396548671
Je kan ook een 3070ti kopen. Meer dan dat heb je toch niet nodig. Als je het echt nodig hebt dan heb je klanten en dus geld genoeg om 10 van die nieuwe kaarten te kopen.
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>>396555473
but germany is in debt to america it's greatest ally in times of these turmoil i am sure america will forgive that debt or maybe freeze it for the next 100 years or pass it on to russia
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>>396555204
Exactly what will happen here in like a week, capped at 2.5k/year or something
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>>396552608
A lot of them were shut down for maintenance and will only come back up in coming months, EU legislature dictates that the electricity must be sold as one based on the highest kWh prices. Initially this was done to for green energy to compete but now that gas prices are so high it's raking it record profits for every other source of energy.
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>>396548232
Rookie numbers.
Lets go from hyper to cyber inflation baby!
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>>396556135
Nice sarcasm anon. We are truly fucked. I never felt this way about our country and continent before and I am an oldfag. It is truly over this time!
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It's not enough, those numbers need to be cranked up to the moon. Fuck europeans.
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>>396556720
sheesh all that will happen is really old people will die/suffer, standard of living goes down but that is not a super bad thing.

Maybe people will actually participate in communities now also there will be less immigrants less gibs a lot of european talent will be stolen by america but those guys will send money back.
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>>396548671
These things also use a tremendous amount of power which you also won't be able to afford soon
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>>396556720
>It is truly over this time!
How is it bad that the Western semi-totalitarian system destroy itself because they are unreformable, in a similar fashion to how communism fell?
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Good for USA, US divided Europe from Russia to make Europe buy from the US with expensive prices and US is selling weapons at the same time expanding NATO close to Russia and invading Russian Speaking territories in Ukraine, and maybe many industries in Europe will go bankrupt because they will not pay for the high Electricity bills and maybe they will go for USA to USA have more industries and also make Europe give more money for USA buying from USA in industries and this is also why USA make europe don't make deals with industries in CHINA

CIA make

USA get money by selling weapons and put their army
Invade and expand NATO-USA in Russian Speaking regions in Ukraine
Divided Europe from Russia and make Europe buy from USA
Will get the industries of Europe going to the US or will buy them and USA will make money with their european slaves

AMERICA FIRST
Is what the burecrauts of EU work for NATO-CIA USA global power, money and hegemony

This is what you get with the strategy of USA to divide Russia and Europe to USA be the one who sell for Europe and get money, and also will get the european industries that will go to the USA or USA will buy and Europeans will pay for these industries of USA while USA also say to not deal with Chinese industries to give priority to give money for the USA
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>>396548232
There is a solution something called operation "fuck Groningen & German contracts". And then we'll be fine.
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>>396557222
Sure, every crisis can be a chance. But, first of all the transition will be cruel and take several years and secondly, it could even get worse after that. But yeah, I am looking forward to the chance, as well. We better use it for good!
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>>396557715
> Groningen
I heard in the (((media))) there would be serious environemntal concerns. How serious are these concerns?
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Maybe Ukraine's Nazis will spread across Europe, Ukraine's organized Nazis, with Europe becoming poor because of lack of gas, rising prices, and loss of geopolitical power as everyone now knows that Europe is vassal to the interests of US that makes its own citizens pay more for energy, run the risk of losing their industries because the maintenance price increases and these industries are bought or go to the US, while the US makes Europe have the US itself as the exporter to enrich the US itself, not to mention that the US itself is selling weapons.

With Europe's crash starting now and getting worse in 1 or 2 years, when gas reserves are dwindling, when the subsidy on electricity bills for people not to protest is removed, Europe will go into a state of rage, and the non-Europeans that the US helped create propaganda to shove in Europe with the immigrant crisis made by the US calling them refugees, favored the possibility of Europe having dormant infiltrated terrorist cells waiting for the moment to act, and with the Nazis in Ukraine spreading across Europe, this would be the moment of chaos, meanwhile the US managed to separate Europe from Russia completely, make Europe buy everything from US industries, and make Europe not trade with Chinese industries, and the US even helped with the separation of Europe and Russia destroying industries in Europe that closed for lack of money to do maintenance and will seek profits in other countries, like the United States, making Europeans pay the United States give things to them, or the US buys industries in European countries like Germany over the years.

In some momment, even if USA try to pretend not want this, they will get advantage of Europe don't get cheap gas and energy from Russia to give money and buy from USA, and also USA could get industries coming to USA to profit in USA because is expensive pay bills in Europe for these industries, europe will lose their industries for US and will make Europe buy things of US
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>>396548232
you will own nothing but you won't be happy
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>>396548232
hope all you euro bros are prepped with food shits going to be rough
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>>396557020
I welcome your optimism, thanks anon
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>>396553829
>market forces had been allowed to operate the entirety of the EU would be powered
by gas. Russian gas is cheaper than everything else it scales up and down very well there is nothing better than gas as long as you have a reliable provider which Russia was for Europe for a very long time until neoliberals decided to fuck with them.
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>>396548232
Just wear a sweater.
Eat the bug and $oy patties if you can't afford meat.
Savings? The economy needs that money to circulate. What are you, an unpatriotic hoarder?
Ukraine fights for all of us. Think of these price increases as a war tax (actual quote from our PM lmao).
And, most importantly, trust the plan.
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>>396553073
>EU
>market forces
These cunts regulate EVERYTHING. There is a planning committee for every sector of the economy.
There is absolutely zero room for any kind of free market.
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>>396551812
And it wouldn’t have worked without Putin.
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>>396558252
That is one demonic looking tomato.
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>>396548671
Better get a new case as well to put the fat boy in.
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>>396556720
Miss me yet?
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>>396559687
I would risk jail time replying to this question anon
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>>396554503
The difference of strategic value between hardware and software is immeasurable. Softwares are just a matter of throwing enough code-monkeys at it while hardwares deal with what is physically possible and what is not. Softwares can also just be pirated.
Of course, it is a reality (((they))) and their stock markets refuse to acknowledge.
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>>396560477
Good point. We should extort the USA with our existential supply chain parts. Oh wait...
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>>396548232
And that's a good thing, take that Putin!
Green energy is working goyim!
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>>396555603
Zonnevlam wil je adres weten
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>have girlfriend with rich parents
>have paid rent at a fixed rate for 500eur the last 4years
>asked if I should pay more
>they don't ever mention it
>also have gas card from the company
This whole situation is hilarious to me. Should buy gold.
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>>396564863
No. Gold currently has a bloated price because all people have already fled into gold years ahead of all of this while the value of the currencies decreased. If you're buying gold now it means you pay a lot and later, after all the others have sold theirs, you get little back. Bad deal. I'd rather try shitcoins once they hit rock bottom. They won't go away, so there's the chance of them going up, especially since entire countries are dedicated to digital currencies now.
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>>396566763
Thanks for the info, Hans.
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>>396548232
there are russiants that are fuckin getting sent to die and your country sanctioned them, lectricity prices OH NOO that means you dont get to go on a sunday drive for the weekend and you will be slightly less richer then you already are richy, fuck you.
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>>396567042
Op is not Op's government



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