>ctrl f "google" zero results>ctrl f "monopoly" zero resultsAssblown govt psyop bot infested cesspit forum.>The U.S. Department of Justice argued Wednesday that Google should divest its Chrome browser to help break up the company’s illegal monopoly in online search, according to a filing with the U.S District Court of the District of Columbia.>Ultimately, it will be up to District Court judge Amit Mehta to decide what Google’s final punishment will be, a decision that could fundamentally change one of the world’s largest businesses and alter the structure of the internet as we know it.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/20/doj-google-must-sell-chrome-to-end-monopoly/
>>489340189Yea goog is down 6 percent Fridays. Clown shit.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/doj-seeks-to-break-up-google-forcing-sale-of-web-browser-chrome-sale-as-monopoly-punishment
Google won the lawsuit. This is the feds trying something else.
>>489340189I actually don't want them to sell chrome or android. Or youtube. Haven't they got some other shit they can spin off?Also - remember when the DOJ told Microshit they couldn't package their browsers with windows? Went well.
>>489340381Wrong. Continued from the OP greentext:>That phase of the trial is expected to kick off sometime in 2025.>Judge Mehta ruled in August that Google was an illegal monopoly for abusing its power over the search business. The judge also took issue with Google’s control of various gateways to the internet and the company’s payments to third parties in order to retain its status as a default search engine. https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/20/doj-google-must-sell-chrome-to-end-monopoly/
>>489340852Oh
>>489340189How is selling a browser going to affect googles monopoly at all? They have other divisions that have so much more control
>>489341150Also, how can apple not be considered a monopoly as well then?
>>489340189Your subject reads like a headline and that means you're being subversive.
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM
>>489340396Why not, anon? I think it's fantastic. Corporate entities should get bitchslapped by govts when they reach a approach a certain degree of power. Democratic govt is at least rhetorically and hypothetically representative of me and my vote/interests. I know that's not true in a practical sense but it is even less true of a corporation. At least govt servants have to pay me lip service, google by contrast can just do what it wants with no system in place for my will and my interest to intercede.If the govt were assuming control of the split portions and were taking Chrome and Android and Youtube I'd be 100% against that, but they are being kept private and simply being detached from Alphabet Inc. That will allow regulators to pursue those companies for anticompetitive practices if they go on to behave as a trust (formally separate entities acting together as a monopoly).
>>489341452It is literally a headline
>>489341590>google by contrast can just do what it wants with no system in place for my will and my interest to intercedeOther than actions taken by the govt such as the ones taken by the DOJ here, I meant to say.
>>489340189What has ever been the justification for the State "breaking up monopolies"? "Business being too successful is BAD"?
>>489341847Seethe about it. Antitrust is the ultimate western admittance that Hitler was right.
>>489341847It's really just a way of ensuring a corporate-government partnership as it's rarely used against corps that make the bureaucrats happy. Google must've pissed off someone. Either that or it's just for show because selling a browser isn't going to do anything to their search engine monopoly.
>>489342357If whatever it is continues, they will go on to say another piece needs to be removed. They discuss going on to pursue removing android after chrome but it is left ambiguous, like if google folds in some other way the antitrust action might stop.I can hardly envision google defending my rights against glowies in any case, so I say fuck em, doesn't matter to me what it is, I just hope they hold out for as long as possible and get picked apart for it.
>>489340189it's a small start, but google isn't the only monopoly that needs to be dismantlednice thread, I stole it: https://www.polnewscentral.com/google-declared-a-monopoly-by-doj-which-says-must-sell-chrom
>>489342689>I can hardly envision google defending my rights against glowiesAnti-trust ensures this. Bill Gates used to keep out of politics.
Ah yes, Chrome was the problem. And not the monopoly on search and online ads.
>>489343156Good news is good news even if it's not the final fuckin solution to le society. You gotta allow yourself little moments of celebration or else they've taken joy from you, and they were just trying to sell Joy (TM) for the election and I'm simply not going to put up with having my own personal joy stolen and redistributed like that.
Vivaldi chuds stay winning
>>489343093I understand the argument, but it's awfully convenient to choose this particular moment and this particular company to have a crisis of policy. I would prefer to lay back and argue about trannies while this happens and then complain about antitrust law when they go for Elon.
>>489340189wow, them shutting down adblockers while being the main distributor of ads is a cunt
Usually these corporations would just do a bunch of legal delays to extend things until a Republican is in office but Trump and the tech industry hate each other so Google can't count on the Republican president being pro-corporate this time.
>>489340189But they get to keep their search engine, YouTube, Android, ad sense, and a hundred other glowie tied InQtel type operations, just sell shitty chrome is all thry gotta do?
>>489344261>vote to squeeze police>vote to increase crime>???>PROFIT
>>489340189>chromeWho gives a fuck about chrome?
>>489341150It will have no effect whatsoever.
>>489344626they were already shifting trying to increase the mobile footprintchrome started to recommend google way less
>>489344626The more they chop at once the harder it is to resolve the action.Other anon called it out earlier; google (alphabet inc) has pissed off the govt on some level and the chopping will continue until Alphebet chooses to stop or becomes incapable of persisting.
>>489345209They helped steal elections for Dems, then those same Dems punish them for not censoring shit enough despite all the 900 pages of leaked internal senior engineer whistle blower documents showing how evil and biased they are, kek.Also, when did they disappear and memory hole their ownt motto 'Dont be evil'
If google announced that this is happening because they are under pressure by the govt to treat user data in increasingly dubious ways, the story would get big and make the antitrust action very unpopular, but that could only be a hail Mary play by a badly wounded corporation and I don't expect it. Boys dream, I'd love it if they mucked things up like that even though I hate google. Gotta give your govt shittests, too.
>>489345209This.The gov got mad at google because google was selling cloud services and then just shipping data to israel.
Isnt it nice to have a thread without bots? I wonder what done it.
>>489340189Good thread have a bump
Based on the provided search results, here are some recent instances where Google may have “pissed off” the government:Concealing internal conversations: Google systematically told employees to destroy messages, avoid certain words, and copy lawyers as often as possible to avoid antitrust suits. This behavior was uncovered during three antitrust trials against Google over the last year. (Source: “How Google Spent 15 Years Concealing Its Internal Conversations” - The New York Times)Antitrust scrutiny: Google has faced antitrust scrutiny over its control of the Google Play store, alleged “self-preferencing” at the expense of third-party developers, and discrimination against rivals’ advertisements on YouTube. The European Commission has pursued several competition law cases against Google, including allegations of abusing its dominant position in search to favor its own services over those of competitors.Tax avoidance: Google has been criticized for its tax avoidance practices, which have led to allegations of unfairness and potential harm to governments’ revenue.Censorship and political interference: Google has faced criticism for removing apps and content that may be perceived as political or controversial, such as:-Smart Voting app from the Play Store before the 2021 Russian legislative election, allegedly due to pressure from Russian authorities.-Canceling an advertisement for a sex workers’ rights group in Dublin, only to later relent after protests and complaints.Collaboration with military and surveillance: Google’s collaboration with the US military on Project Maven, which uses artificial intelligence to analyze drone footage, has raised concerns about the company’s involvement in military surveillance and potential human rights violations.
>>489341590as fucked up as google is when it comes to users privacy. chrome will 100% get sold to some fed front company and that is 1000% times worse.
>>489342357they also make chromium which is used by a bunch of other browsers. what happens to that?
>>489340189Call me cynical, but this seems like a ploy to cut a zero-profit project, probably to pass it off to another CIA front, while insulating Google Search Agency from potential fallout.
>>489347868Chromium is open source. Ungoogled Chromium is already a thing, so other useragents are free to use that as their engine.The big tell here will be what major telemetry updates chrome makes after the spinoff.
>>489341230Apple doesn’t indirectly control every main search engine on the Internet.
>>489348201Im most irritated that search isn't just an API by now, butnthat breaks the ad revenue model
>>489340189>Sell Chrome to Microsoft>Microsoft now has monopoly>Microsoft forced to sell Chrome>Google now rebuys Chrome>gg no re DOJ
>>489340189can’t find it anywhere but there was an old youtube video that predicted how google was eventually going to take over the world by combining all the telecoms or something. it was satire and meant to seem ridiculous, but I can’t help but think it’s basically a documentary at this point
>>489349372The framework demands the business continue to expand in profit and power and it is literally only by banding together as a lobby against it (which we do in the form of govt) that there can be a leveraged response. The govt is corrupt but we are disempowered in terms of religious or cultural mob action and so govt is the only sufficiently powerful organizational principal we've got up and running to compete against the momentum of a business, which can and will grow to run our lives left unchecked. I believe that someday someone will pen a competitive theory of human organization that succeeds where Marxist theories of revolution failed and beats out our current modes on a game theory level, in terms of its ability to spread and convert. It will be slandered with old words like communism and fascism, but it will succeed based on its inherent competitive advantages, and then the relationship between groups of people will be different. That's all very poofty but it's what I believe. Our current system is like a self-conflicting, forced, fiat scientific consensus: it exists as old infrastructure just waiting to be eaten up by a more functional consensus and when it comes nothing will stop it. The new system will address issues we experience today and will create new issues for new generations of wrongthinkers to rebel over.
