- Steam Frame (standalone VR)- Steam Machine (small pc, steamOS)- Steam Controller (controller with gyro)Is any of this shit actually good? which are you guys buying?
>>521374058What is steam
>>>/v/
>>521374058You're a braindead subhuman nigger if you're playing vidya in 2025.
Looks good on paper. Not buying on launch dough.
>>521374138Video games are political. A nigger just killed Ubisoft IRL.
>>521374121Steam is the iTunes if videogames Near monopoly on online videogame sales
>>521374058Depends how much it costs. If it's anywhere more than 300 bucks then fuck no, I can just stay on my desk.
>>521374058just sold my valve index in preparation for the steam frame. probably gonna wait a little while after it comes out though in case they launch an oled version or something
>>521374121>>521374058Vr will always be a memeIt's a novelty for an hour, but the weight and trapped heat name it not realistic .
>>521374241I zee
>>521374121Very hot dehydrated water if it's any good
>>521374389How is vr porn ?
>>521374058>porn frame>android tablet APU with 8GB VRAM>fugly controller with a useless gimmickgabebox has a potential to be an emulation monster but if it's anything above 400€ then it's DOA
>>521374058buying pre built pc's are for nigger brains
>>521374058Can't talk about the Frame because I'm not a VR guy.Machine, its all about the price. Slam dunk at $450-500. Might be $650 for the 2TB model and that's still a steal.Target audience isn't the enthusiast PC enjoyer, it's the FIFA nigger who used to play seXbox.That said, it's almost 6x6x6 inches. The dimensions slightly deviate. Triggers the jewdar slightly. From a company in SoCal? No shit.The Controller is the most interesting of the lot.Those 4 grip buttons it has are much needed for some emulation usecases and some games, it's shit to map keyboard shortcuts to. No more weird L3 button combinations in Retroarch.The touchpads, sticks and buttons come straight from the Deck so those ought to be good, and the sticks are TWR which is the hottest meme in thumbstick land.
>>521374422>€400they're selling the base model deck for 400 and 700 for the premium, since they already said x4 power than I'd assume at least x2 the price so 800 for the lower spec box and 1400 for the better modelstandalone vr will probably be around 1k given the full index kit was 1200 and the controller will most likely be a solid 200all of this will be sold out in daysscreencap this
>>521374454It's not so much that, it's the fact that other OS's are wickedly inconvenient now to the regular Joe. Windows is rapidly getting worse and people want to jump ship. MacOS? Fuck no. Linux? Don't got the time or patience. People game on computers and use steam mostly. If steam releases an OS like this, best case scenario is windows back tracks and stops being shit, worse case scenario is now the majority of people who play games will stick with steam and windows will collapse. Microsoft hired Indians, Indians ruined it. This situation is now the result.
>>521374058New Jewish mind control equipment huh
>>521374793the valve index was $999 when i bought mine in early 2020
>>521374058I'll stick with the classic
>>521374241free emulators tho
>>521374793>since they already said x4 power than I'd assume at least x2 the price so 800 for the lower spec box and 1400 for the better modelI'd like to see them try to sell it at this price because that's just a scam
>>521374793Over 6x as powerful, as per their advertising.Then again it's about as powerful as a PS5, slightly more powerful, and that's $500. The Slim is $400.
>>521374977Checked. This shit looks retarded but I got it for $5 and it's actually kind of amazing.>>521374058If the controller is $70 or less it's a day 1 purchase. If the price it at like $200 to compete with dual sense edge / Xbox elite controller, I'll pass The GabeCube is actually pretty good but I don't need it at all. Already have a better PC.The headset I'm probably getting. It's where VR should've been years ago.I hate valve and steam(ing pile of shit,) btw but I can't deny this is by far the best vr tech I've seen.
Will probably get the steam frame since I'm into VR. Having an inside out tracking headset that can work in total darkness seems pretty sweet since I'm one of those weirdos that likes to sleep in VR and light bleed from the outside world really kills the eepy vibes.
Might get the controller if it gets good emulator support for trackpads and gyro
>>521374058Is mommy going to get you a new flavor of juice to go with your video games? Touch grass you pale sickly faggot. Vidya is like artificial life support for your brain.
>>521374058>Valve trying steam machines again after they failed catastrophicallyBut why? What is wrong with these retards lately?>>521374241>Near monopolyand all it took was offering some sales and giving decent support, though it hasn't been without its ups and downs (refunds or that paid mods bullshit).
>>521374058i love how they fuckin dropped support of the first controller just to later make another that is about the same....fuck no, i'm not buying anything game related ever again
>>521376198What made the Machines fail in 2015 was that they completely relied on third-party manufacturers to produce the hardware, and that Proton and other methods of playing Windows games on Linux just weren't good enough for commercial application.Nobody made the machines because the software wasn't there, and the software wasn't there because ironically the only people who got into Linux and stayed there were people who don't play a lot of games.But obviously that changed tremendously since 2015 as people grew disgusted with Windows and saw the need to develop an alternative, which took its sweet time but is now ripe for the harvest.
>steam machineconsidering this is going for entry level pc/console players they need to absolutely get the price right or its DOA. steam deck worked for its price because its more novel. this is a "not a console" linux pc, you need to convince your average console retard to switch over to it, and barrier to entry has already been established with it not being windows. its a lot more convincing if priced at ~400 funny moneythey will need to sell at a loss (if they already aren't) and recoup with steam game sales. they basically own the pc games market, so
>>521374058>there are still no good gamesI can upgrade my budget PC for $250 to do everything Steam Machine is doing.Also I would buy a Steam Machine at %20 off from a skin trader who wanted to cash out so fuck day 1 buying.But there are still no good games coming out. Even GTA 6 is in question after Starfield, DragonAge, NiggersfromJapan, ect. I don't need a high end system to run indie games or games from 10 years ago.I want Steam OS to work and replace Windows though.
>>521376479It's gonna work like the Deck.Start in console mode, desktop mode is an option.Most people will just turn it on and play FIFA.While technically constructed as a PC that happens to work as a console, it's a console that happens to also work as a PC.
>>521374058>>>/v/Not political
>>521376491>But there are still no good games coming out. Even GTA 6 is in question after Starfield, DragonAge, NiggersfromJapan, ect. I don't need a high end system to run indie games or games from 10 years ago.this....i have zero interest in any new games whatsoever... all the good developers either left or are too old and pozzed...the industry sucks so much ass
>>521374058go to hell video game industry.
>>521376422Valve is trying to enter a market that nobody asked for and nobody wants. That's what made them fail in the first place. Maybe these new steam machines will be heavily discount in 1-2 years and be decent 4K media streamers.
>>521374058You can put it in the middle of your room. When you're not playing, you can just walk around it over and over.
>>521374417>521374417It's in the early stages, like very early You can sample it by going crossed then aligning the 2 images to form a 3d image in the center touch will be 3dThe problem is videos are always out of focus and the girl has to stay the exact same distance away, but never does you it's constantly, didn't now how to describe it, I guess being crosseyed or drunk even with good vr headsets.Also the selection is extremely limited, you'll never find good fetish porn, only stuff a middle schooler would jack off tok
>>521374058why is this /v/ in my /pol/?
>>521374058You can get a minipc with better performance for 400$ on AliExpress and without paying 1$ to taxes. Just sayin', chinks are bros.
>>521376727Actually i want it because windows is crap for running video games due to background processes
>>521376727>nobody's asking for a cheap alternative to the PS5 that isn't the derelict XboxHow big is the rock you've been living under?
>>521374389From what I understand after the 10 minutes I spent looking into this thing, you can play non VR games on it too and it supports Android games. So it's a bit more than a standard VR headset.
>>521376581>Start in console mode, desktop mode is an optiondidnt know this, makes the machine a bit more compelling but people with established libraries on console are probably still a hard sell, we will see>>521376865those are great but throttle like a bitch quickly, the steam machine looks like they actually gave a shit about cooling
>>521374241>near monopoly>Microsoft store>PlayStation store>Epic games store>Green man gaming>EA Games Store>Ubisoft Store>Battle.netDisingenuous kike
>>521374058The VR googles should be pretty good, they are running a KDE linux fork and I expect them to be open source and reflashable as steam hardware was before. I think that's the first uncucked commercial VR headset.
>>521376996No they don't, peak temperature for my Ryzen minipc is like 75c under 100% load and that's nowhere close to throttle limit. There are also some passively cooled minipcs, pretty genius stuff desu.
>>521377092interesting, ive had a beelink for a few years that i play around with and it throttles, but its an older model and ive never bothered re applying paste or anything
>>521374121It's similar to gas moshe
>>521376973That's doable on all vr headsets.Even a decade ago there were mods to play retro games in VR like the legend of Zelda ocarina of time, mods for GTA v and Skyrim vr VR, and you can use virtual desktop to play whatever you wanted on the headset without it being vr.
>>521376727Nobody wanted Steam when it first came out either, and now its a monolith of the industry that makes companies 10x the size of Valve seethe because they can't topple it. Gaben's greatest strength is that he doesn't chase trends. He doesn't give a single fuck about whether or not the idea is popular or not, only about where or not he thinks it will work. If its good enough, it will become popular over time.
>>521377334I didn't do any mods to mine really, depends if it's an Intel or AMD chip too. Intel processors are bs the last 4-5 years. Overheating like crazy and with cuck cores.
>>521376422I wonder if this will eventually result in a Valve-supported SteamOS becoming available for PC. A lot of people still avoid Linux because they think it is dark magic, a version of Linux that you KNOW up front will play your videogames and which is vouched for by a company you already trust would probably be a good foot in the door for getting casual PC users to consider switching to it to get away from Windows.
>>521376793/:
>>521377334I bought a GMKtec K8 plus with 32 GB DDR5 and 1 TB SSD and it was like 430$ with shipping this summer. Now it's like 630$, pricing for SSDs and RAM got fucked up recently because of AI.
>>521374200lmao
>>521377011Lol all of those hover around 1-5% market share.Where as steam has 70% market share of all online game sales aka near monopoly
>>521374138this
>>521376911Nigger the steam deck wasn't exactly a home run hit. >>521377461>Nobody wanted steamYes everybody wanted steam in fact.
>>521374058>Steam Machine is 6 times stronger than Steam deck>Steam Frame doesn't need to be connected similar to the Quest, and it runs on Steam OS on ARM>new Steam controller is Steam Deck without a screen.Impressive. Looks like GabeN want's to murder Xbox and Microsoft for good.If they make the Frame's price lower than the Quest they'll dominate the market and normalize VR headsets everywhere, just like he's normalizing Linux. I'm assuming that's what they're going for since they're using monochrome passthrough for now.Best part is all of them are just small PCs so you can do whatever you want with it, that means emulation on Deck, Machine and Frame.
>>521374389This is is so weak a Vr headset is heavy and making xer feel hot>ngmi
>>521379169But you can't ick on the eck for the Steam Machine bro
>>521379040The Deck is a handheld device (essentially an extra thing to have) that launched during lockdown to a saturated market waiting for the Switch 2, and didn't make Valve lose money because they priced it well and sold plenty of them.This new consolised product is entering a market where there's really just 1 option now that the other option (Xbox) completely kicked the bucket.>yes everybody wanted steamYou must be 18+ to post here.People were used to buying games and installing them from disc, and then using no-CD cracks to spare the disc and their drives for convenience.Steam came in with digital rights management, with having to download games which could take a while, and with the need to be online to verify your game license.It pissed people off, but the service was sufficiently convenient and out of the way enough for many to swallow it.
>>521374058Steam can go fuck itself. Doesn't work on win7 anymore so cant play anything i bought. I will only be pirating standalone executables now.
>>521380755Enjoy your russian spyware schlomo
>>521380755Could always switch to Linux
>>521374241You will own nothing and play it on a Saturnian cube
already got Arc Raiders on Xbox don't need more gabeboxes
>>521374422>useless gimmickIt really isn't, I thought the same until I got my hands on it, now it's hard to go back to regular controllers. Same goes for gyro aiming.It's like when Thumbsticks first came out, it takes a while to realize their true potential.
>>521376198>Valve giving decent supportAre you retarded?
>>521377913What?
>>521380755Microsoft doesn't even provide security patch support for 7 anymore, just upgrade to 10, your machine can be infected so easily.
>>521381905When I was able to play Stellaris on the deck I realised their true potential, they really are very good.
>>521374058It's literally spyware. Imagine also using their hardware, kek at goyim cattle
>>521374058AMD APU powered and Run by Linux, hope they go for a 8060s instead of 980m
>>521374058>- Steam Frame (standalone VR)I don't care for VR personally>- Steam Machine (small pc, steamOS)It depends on the price, but I'm tempted to get one and sell my PC instead of upgrading it (it's Zen 2 / RDNA). >- Steam Controller (controller with gyro)I'll probably buy one, I currently use an Xbone or DualSense controller most of the time, but the Steam Controller just looks better in every way.
>>521374150>Not buying on launch dough.It will be the only time its hardware specs are relevant. People are already complaining that it's significantly underpowered for aaa pc gaming.Im thinking about picking one up just for a light portable computer though.
>>521374058>Is any of this shit actually good? Well, I was just looking at it and apparently....>which are you guys buying?Oh, I see, cool, so very cool Valve, viral marketing research on the butthole of the internet, if you are this desperate at least buy a fucking ad.
>>521382810>hope they go for a 8060s instead of 980mThey're not doing either, the GPU will be discrete this time around, but still soldered. Think of it as an all-AMD gaming laptop in a cube chassis.
>>521379527>T. Broke soiboi that's never even used a VR headsetIt's putting a comforter with a mini heater on just your upper face like a snorkeling mask. It's fine at first but you're not spending hours with it on your face comfortably
>>521382942npc drones will buy it just because its trendy and looks cool
>>521374148>in the current year >fellow gamer chudsDonald Trump is standing behind you.
>>521383038Not good, more costs for the Hardware, seperate vram etc, I run a 8840 with 780 m and it's perfect for 1080 with medium-high settings, pc fits in your hand or pocket
>>521374058Looks great. VR is bril i have psvr. And it’s AI that will revolutionise gaming - between VR and AI the future looks amazing. It’s probably the only thing i’d allow ai to be used for.Take a look at this for example. AI + skyrim & fallouthttps://m.youtube.com/@BrainFrogVR/videos
>>521383251So almost 80% of troons will commit murder
>>521374241Google has a monopoly on the search engine of the internet. Can't even find obscure websites anymore.
>>521374058I don't have £1k spare, want it, had the original Vive in 2017? was greatCompartively the Frame has 2x the resolution, I was blown away in 2017 playing Elite Dangerous, but that thing was bulky and the couple of pounds of cables and shit and lighthouses for tracking, this thing needs none of that at all.If i get a windfall i'm getting one.
>>521383590Use Yandex for streaming and filesharing sites
>>521383590You can looking into search engine for blogs.
>>521374058It's essentially a non-windows PC that can still run windows games and applications thanks to its Proton translation layer.This will OBLITERATE Microsoft Windows.Most people buy PC's so they can play games and use the internet.You can do all that with the Steam Machine without needing a Microsoft account, or buying a version of Windows, or ever getting "upgraded" to an even shitter version of Windows against your will.It's a PC without the Windows shit.Microsoft shares are going to zero.
>>521383597Elite on the vive was pretty good until you actually had to deal with real shit, then vr just fucks you overIt's true though that you can't appreciate the scale of the game without it.
>>521383597Better wait for the real Specs, If they suck go for a Mini PC with 980 or 780m, they're around 600 Euro Dollars, Install Steam OS or Nobara or Mint etc, size is like 10x10x5cm of this PCs
>>521376793VR porn videos don't feel immersive because they are always just 360 videos displayed in VR not true stereoscopic videos. Now with games like VRChat people do things (against TOS) that absolutely do feel immersive because they are true 3d objects and there are other games like Heat that capitalize on this as well.
>>521383875>Microsoft shares are going to zero.Sadly corpo will forced it to be used, Adobe, officeshit etc, and normies are dumb
>>521383454It depends, the top end Ryzen Al Max+ 395 is probably even more expensive than the separate chips Valve will use. I've been using a laptop with a 7840 for a few years, it's more or less an RX 580, which isn't very impressive now. I think Valve missed the timing to release an ultra-cheap Steam Deck home console, without the controller, battery and screen it could have been 200 EUR or less, and it would have sold out instantly at a time when you had to pay out the ass for something like an RX 6400
>>521384314Ja, the 395 max is at crazy 1500 for a whole PC and is then as powerful as a 6700 GPU for now less 200, they're planning an 8core 388max also with the 8060s, that could get intersting If the price is realistic
>>521374058Steam Frame might be OK but they are dropping full body tracking so this competes directly with the Quest 3. Is it any better than the Quest? Probably not enough to justify the price.Steam Machine is really a console that is going to be well over $1K. At that price why not just buy/build a PC that can do other things besides game? With SM you still need to own a regular PC which is the fatal flaw all consoles have except the PS5 is only $499 and includes a $75 controller.Steam Controller is probably really good unless they price it over $100.
>>521374384you know it's not coming out for at least a year, eh?
>>521384059I have a midrange 2024 pc already, i wont be getting the GabenCube, others i've spoke to who hate what w11 is are thinking of just buying the cube, formatting their win10 machine and putting Ubuntu on them for basic stuff though.Sad to see my original working Vive is worth like $100 all in now, oh well.
>>521384874>Steam Controller is probably really good unless they price it over $100.China copy of Xbox 360 Controller for 12.50 from eBay works also fine, for real real
>>521383980Yeah the lack of early 3rd party web interface that you need to access 3rd party Elite tools through https was a ball breaker.
>>521385278Ubuntu is cringe, Mint, Nobara and cachyOS are more favorable, d e s u
>>521385332Until I need to build a submarine I'll stick with DualShock 4 controllers.
>>521385564If Mint brings back a KDE spin it would be great, but Cinnamon has been falling behind. I've been using Mint with Cinnamon since 2013, but KDE is just too good, fractional scaling actually works, multi-monitor setups with different DPI and refresh rates work and so on.
>>521385644Cheap carbon fiber works at xhao hui peng
>>521374138as if we too meny threads talking about something relvent.
>>521374058So they:>regressed drastically in VR (shittier controllers, worse tracking, slightly better experience without the tether)>designed a shitty handled controller for normal games>are selling a low-end, mATX linux pc (probably will be priced competitively at least)I don’t see the point
>>521385733Im a long term Debian user, with small lxde/qt surface, it just runs, probably switching to Devuan soon, Debian is too infected with wokeness nowadays
>>521374058WTF... why are they everywhere? I just wanted to read about the new Steam Machine on their website - and I have to see this thing???
>>521386231All distros and FOSS in general is infected with this cancer because they have no immune system to protect themselves from it.
