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Proof of God = Proof of Univer(...) 05/22/26(Fri)15:41:30 No.535595317

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Proof of God = Proof of Universal Atonement Anonymous (ID: JN547F0z) 05/22/26(Fri)15:41:30 No.535595317 Archived

If you accept Anselm's ontological argument then you accept universal atonement.
Ontological argument is along the lines of:
>1 There is a hypothetical perfect being in the mind we call God
>2 it is more perfect for God to be real than only in the mind
>3 Therefore God is real
This reasoning can be applied to Christian salvation:
>1 It's hypothetically possible that God's death, burial and resurrection saves everyone
>2 What God did on the cross is a hypothetical perfect sacrifice justifying premise 1
>2.5 what is perfect is not only hypothetical, it is realized
>3 Therefore what God did is a realized perfect sacrifice guaranteeing premise 1
God did what Adam was incapable of.

Anonymous (ID: JN547F0z)
05/22/26(Fri)15:42:43 No.535595380

Anonymous (ID: JN547F0z) 05/22/26(Fri)15:42:43 No.535595380

tldr; morality is not only eternal, it's optimistic

Anonymous (ID: Gfv307xY)
05/22/26(Fri)15:43:55 No.535595451

Anonymous (ID: Gfv307xY) 05/22/26(Fri)15:43:55 No.535595451

>>535595317
why'd you post a picture of a pedophile?

Anonymous (ID: +IPACJ+s)
05/22/26(Fri)15:45:46 No.535595553

Anonymous (ID: +IPACJ+s) 05/22/26(Fri)15:45:46 No.535595553

>God doesn't send child murderers to hell
>God doesn't send child murderers to hell forever
Forget your syllogism or whatever, nerd. These are the 2 issues you must address in addition to your fancy formula. But you know that makes you vulnerable to criticism and demands for evidence, don't you?

Anonymous (ID: yaWzREcU)
05/22/26(Fri)15:50:34 No.535595756

Anonymous (ID: yaWzREcU) 05/22/26(Fri)15:50:34 No.535595756

>>535595317
A hypothetical perfect being would never make a pact with a desert tribe mandating them to mutilate children's penises

Anonymous (ID: BTnNXH/n)
05/22/26(Fri)15:51:38 No.535595811

Anonymous (ID: BTnNXH/n) 05/22/26(Fri)15:51:38 No.535595811

>>535595317
Then it would've been super perfect to do it without doing all of that other shit

Anonymous (ID: Q0QJPtWj)
05/22/26(Fri)15:52:12 No.535595840

Anonymous (ID: Q0QJPtWj) 05/22/26(Fri)15:52:12 No.535595840

>>535595317
what if I reject the argument but still believe in universal atonement?

Ghost of Mesa (ID: dOqRwqxL)
05/22/26(Fri)15:54:45 No.535595965

Ghost of Mesa (ID: dOqRwqxL) 05/22/26(Fri)15:54:45 No.535595965

>>535595317
>it is more perfect for God to be real than only in the mind
What does "more perfect" mean and how is it different aside from changing one metaphysical platform to another?

Anonymous (ID: MoBFDXpw)
05/22/26(Fri)15:58:47 No.535596180

Anonymous (ID: MoBFDXpw) 05/22/26(Fri)15:58:47 No.535596180

I've never been able to understand the leap from #2 to #3 any anything but the most idiotic logical jump in anything that's ever been considered a serious philosophical argument. What am I missing?

Anonymous (ID: JN547F0z)
05/22/26(Fri)16:11:41 No.535596865

Anonymous (ID: JN547F0z) 05/22/26(Fri)16:11:41 No.535596865