He will go down as the most consequential man of the 21st century.
>>536677930Nah, he's already been overshadowed.
>>536677930Consequential? That can mean bad, too, so, yeah.
>>536678003By whom?
>>536678022If you think nationalism is bad, then yeah, I guess.
>>536678003In terriblleness?
>>536678047If you think he exemplifies nationalism, you've missed everything.
>>536678087On a macrocosmic scale, no. That would probably be the fascists. But he's the one who brought nationalism back into the mainstream of Western politics. He's remade the GOP as a completely different party. He's shifted the culture. Young right wingers are now by and large radical racialists instead of trust fund kids.
>>536678149>He's remade the GOP as a completely different partyWhat are the policy differences between the GOP 20 years ago versus now?
>>536678193It's much more hostile to free trade, immigration, and civil rights. We're not fully there on race and immigration, but nobody can tell me with a straight face that George fucking Bush would post this.
>>536677930He won't even be the most consequential man of the last year of his presidencyOnce the 2028 primaries start the spotlight will be on the next batch of candidates. No doubt he'll lash out and deliberately do and say things to try to keep himself in the headlines because the reality of beginning to fade into irrelevance will be too much for him to bear, but it will happen like it does with every president at the end of his term
>>536677930the guy entire character arc is tragic. so much potential but the swamp fucking got him
>>536677930He's just the beginning of whites reclaiming their countries, but a significant turning point. It will only get more nationalistic from here on out. Liberal boomers are the only ones keeping the genocidal rage of whites from boiling over, and they'll be dead soon.
>>536678047Kys, miggerjeet.
>>536678381Migger boomers are the only ones keeping Israel from complete and utter destruction. When the boomers die it’s gonna be a bloodbath on every angle.
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>>536678149Any effect he had was either opposite of the effect desired, or he didn't care. Nothing he's doing is popular, and he's not following any of his own promises. He's sold out America. If that's inspired nationalism, it was inadvertent.
>>536678300swamp had him day 1a washington outsider was never gonna have it easy
>>536678267>free tradeWhat anti-free trade legislation has the GOP passed? It's the Democrats who lead the repeal of NAFTA and embraced protectionism under Biden, it's Trump who allowed the Nippon-Steel deal.>immigrationTrump is in favor of cheap labor, temporary labor and against mass deportations which would hurt corporations, like Bush. Both supported wall construction.>and civil rightsAssuming you mean opposing things like Affirmative Action, this has been the GOP position for at least the past 20 years as well. And Trump embraces things like abortion and LGBT rights more than Bush.
>>536678566How, exactly, has he sold out America? And how is he not following through? He's objectively the most hostile president on immigration in 50 years. You can deny the facts all you want, but they are facts. The job market has been improving as of late, he's passed tariffs, he's pursued American imperialism (to mixed effect). Sure, the country isn't paradise, but why would you expect it to be?
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>>536678659>What anti-free trade legislation has the GOP passed?Are you living under a rock?>Trump is against mass deportationsI know from this that you don't care about truth and just want to live in fantasy land.>Assuming you mean opposing things like Affirmative Action, this has been the GOP position for at least the past 20 yearsMost of the GOP hates MLK at this point. We have countless Republicans calling for the repeal of the Hart-Celler act. >And Trump embraces things like abortion and LGBT rights more than Bush.And yet Republican support for gay marriage is currently dropping.
>>536678471Your reasoning is stupid because Israel is on the other side of the world, but white countries are overrun with non-whites which will be seen as a more immediate problem, and obviously full nationalism will see the US cut ties with Israel. I honestly doubt Israel survives that long.
>>536678848Any numbers to back up your claims?
>>536678741Are miggers actually still falling for it? Astonishing. The only thing I can give Trump credit for is reducing immigration, and even that is half-assed and botched. Every other promise of his has been a complete letdown.
>>536678940Why no comment on immigration?
>>536678857>Are you living under a rock?No. Answer the question.>I know from this that you don't care about truth and just want to live in fantasy land.Sounds like projection.>Most of the GOP hates MLK at this pointWhat's your evidence for this?https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/martin-luther-king-jr-federal-holiday-2026/>We have countless Republicans calling for the repeal of the Hart-Celler act.Post 10 examples if it's countless. >And yet Republican support for gay marriage is currently dropping.So that's in spite of Trump. I thought you said that retard remade the party?
>>536678863> Don’t worry about Israel they’re actually not a threat or a problem at all! It’s not like they’re directly interfering in our politics and spending billions pushing self destructive policies in America!Kill yourself, Moishe.
>>536678887What claim? Those are the words that literally came out of Trump’s mouth. Does that upset you?
>>536679005Immigration is literally the only specific policy I DID comment on you illiterate ESL streetshitter. I curse Vishnu, I eat beef. Am Yisrael Chazirim.
>>536677930>He will go down as the most consequential man of the 21st century.And for many centuries before that too.
>>536677930>consequentialArchduke Ferdinand was pretty consequential to the 20th century, so yeah.
>>536677930You zoomers really need to research the damage dubya did
>>536677930Most loyal Jew slave
>>536678047yea, jewish nationalism IS bad
>>536679019Tariffs aren't anti free trade?>Sounds like projectionDo you have any data proving an increase or even continuation of previous immigration rates?>What's your evidence for this?Do you think Charlie Kirk is a fair example?>post 10 examplesPic rel (his proposed immigration act) has gotten at least 10 endorsements in Congress.>So that's in spite of Trump.Where's your evidence for that? Trump signals a moderate political stance in public and then takes political actions to embolden the radical faction of the party. It's clear that's what he does.
>>536679054Where is the data?
can't spell "consequential" without "con"
>>536679341Trump’s words. Words that came out of Trump’s mouth. You’re a terrible shill, how much does Hegseth pay you?
>>536677930Without doubt.No matter what you think of him, he’s the juggernaut of the century.
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>>536679409That's not data.
>>536679210Yeah, it was a careful choice of words
>>536679311>Tariffs aren't anti free trade?What tariff legislation has the GOP passed?>Do you have any data proving an increase or even continuation of previous immigration rates?I'm not going to prove or disprove a claim I never made. I said Trump favors cheap labor, temporary labor and opposes mass deportations, just like Bush and the GOP of 20 years ago.>Do you think Charlie Kirk is a fair example?No, I don't think one guy is an example of your claim that the majority of Republicans hate MLK. Can you please show data to backup your claim?>Pic rel (his proposed immigration act) has gotten at least 10 endorsements in Congress.Okay, fair enough. This has 15 co-sponsors out of 220 Republicans in the House and 53 in the Senate and doesn't have support from the President. That's only about 5% of the party, but it is over 10. However, I'm sure there would have been a similar number 20 years ago.>Where's your evidence for that? Trump signals a moderate political stance in public and then takes political actions to embolden the radical faction of the party. It's clear that's what he does.>muh 4d chessMore Republicans support abortion and LGBT rights now than they did 20 years ago and that's partly because of Trump. The party isn't more socially conservative and pretending otherwise is just cope.
>>536679972>GOP tariff legislationWon't pass because there are neocons and lolberts in Congress.>Trump favors cheap labor, temporary labor and opposes mass deportationsThe data proves you wrong. >Can you please show data to backup your claim?Data on an opinion? The GOP has gutted the Voting Rights Act, for one.>However, I'm sure there would have been a similar number 20 years ago.Can you find me a bill proposing the reversal of Hart-Celler that got a similar amount of sponsors?>doesn't have support from TrumpBecause he knows it won't pass, and doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a bill that will die. It's not because he's ideologically opposed to it, as shown by his executive action and rhetoric.>The party isn't more socially conservativeIt's not more socially liberal than it was 10 years ago. Maybe Trump hasn't made progress on that front. Whatever. I don't really care. Immigration and civil rights matter more.
>>536680141>Won't pass because there are neocons and lolberts in Congress.So Trump hasn't meaningfully changed the party. If he did, he would have the political raw power to force his agenda congress, as other powerful presidents have.>The data proves you wrong.Cutting refugee admissions doesn't prove me wrong. I never said he wasn't opposed to previous refugee programs. I said he was in favor of cheap labor, temporary labor and against mass deportations. Your screenshot doesn't prove otherwise.>Data on an opinion?Something like that can easily be surveyed. Do you have proof that the majority of Republicans hate MLK or were just making a spurious assumption without any data to back it up?>The GOP has gutted the Voting Rights Act, for one.The GOP has opposed the VRA for decades on partisan grounds. >Can you find me a bill proposing the reversal of Hart-Celler that got a similar amount of sponsors?There's been about that many hardliners for decades. Whether there's one individual bill, I'm not sure, but 5% is not indicative that Trump meaningfully changed the party, and he doesn't even support this bill.>Because he knows it won't pass, and doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a bill that will dieHe already did that with the SAVE Act, the $1.5 trillion defense budget and repeal of the filibuster. Nice cope though.
>>536677930Nah. He wishes he will. What he'll really go down as is an interregnum. Everything he has "accomplished" (not much) will be undone. Much of it during his own presidency. There will be a return to the way things were, and much more complete and secure than it was before, because Trump's sheer incompetence has soiled the idea of an alternative for a generation or two. The reality is, he'll barely be remembered at all. He will be a trivia footnote.
>>536677930Hes literally the most famous person to ever live
>>536681214>There will be a return to the way things wereNot for decades, I don't think you realize how much the rest of the world has been woken up to how dangerous it is to rely on the US, when voters will vote repeatedly for someone as obviously terrible as Trump. The golden era of uncontested US superpower hegemony of the 20th century is over permanently
>>536681214>he'll barely be remembered at allI think him being the worst president of all time will become the default mainstream opinion, but his actions will be less remembered.
>>536681062If your metric for him changing the party is forcing out literally every member opposed to his agenda you're insane.
>>536677930The first try hard moron Unc class crashing out dead ass frfr Presidon’t
>>536677930the biggest fattest retard of the 21st century
>>536677930If he had pulled the US out of NATO, pulled all troops out of Korea, kept us out of SW Asia war, and generally brought all our troops home then yeah.Unfortunately, he’s just another Neocon who makes the USA the world’s policeman.
>>536681532Nice strawman. In any event, considering he can't get any legislation passed unless it's a generic GOP tax/defense bill shows he has no control over the party and is a historically weak president.
>>536681693>the USA the world’s policemanMore like the world's Jewish mobster
>>536677930You have no idea what the next 74 years will bring.
>>536677930How is that possible when hes bibi's slave?
>>536681847Like 99% of his endorsements won their primaries lol
>>536682202>pick the frontrunner in every race to endorse>hurr durr I'm a kingmakerRemember when he endorsed Kari Lake and she lost not once, but twice
>>536682202Okay? And many of these are the same people who then go on to vote against some of the stuff we've been discussing. Only 5% of these people supported your immigration bill, for example. I didn't say him and his voters aren't stupid retards.
>>536677930First publicly boo’ed president. Very consequential. First (required) president to pass 4 cognitive tests in as many months. It’s America’s 250th birthday and he can’t scrape together an audience or has-been performers for a concert of 5000 people. Got us into a war in the Middle East he can’t seem to get out of, less than 39% approval ratings, gas is going up, inflation, obvious corruption and insider trading, losing battles in court, has become delusional that anything or anyone not supporting his agenda is fake or a fraud. Every vote that isn’t his because cheating. Prime candidate for the 25th amendment. Definitely consequential.
>>536677930And I helped.
>>536682248Because AZ was rigged as fuck, The Save America Act WILL pass congress and you will seethe and cope about it.
>>536682840>First publicly boo’ed presidentunderageb&
>>536682952Grow up, little man.
>>536683027kill yourself, faggot
When you suck that much jew cock you're bound to become famous
>>536682952You’re right, it turns out there were 270 less votes for Trump after the Republican appointed Ninjas reshuffled and recounted the deck, and got the same results over and over.
>>536677930In the same breath as Caligula and Nero.
>>536682979Dude got dogpiled during the National anthem of all times. Even Vance was impressed.
>>536683227it was flagrantly rigged and everybody saw it, tranny>>536683309nah, you're just a faggot and you're coping because you lost lol
>>536678300A scummy billionaire businessman that made his money through fraud and corruption and embodies every earthly sin was never an outsider to anything except humanity.
>>536683375They were just rigging it in response to you guys rigging it
>>536683375You sound … sad. You lost 2020 in case you forgot. Apparently nothing’s changed because you’re still a little bitch. Definitely don’t sound like the winner in the room to me.
>>536677930nah, he wins first prize for being the most retarded megalomaniac. He is embarrassing.
>>536677930yeah cuz all the old heads used to think think the third temple is gonna matter which it won't and Trump understands this and is gonna try to help accelerate
>>536677930 Hopefully the oldest Presidential candidate in American history.Pants shitting Grandpa.
>>536677930Trump as President is like, "What if a leader was as incompetent as Mussolini while also being as impactful as Hitler?"
>>536683375You lost, tranny
>>536678026his handler, of course
>>536681290First off, this idea of "Uncontested US superpower hegemony" is a funny one. Those conditions have never really existed. Second off: recency bias. You can expect several other countries in the western sphere to go through convulsions where there populist retards take power. But the way technocrats will return to control are already in place. As quickly as people turned away from the mainstream media for "citiizen journalism", fueling right-wing populism, they are now turning away from citizen journalism to AI (and the citizen jounaliists have no one but themselves to blame). What is happening in the US, what is happening in other countries, it will be viewed as a fever that took hold and then receded. No one here likes that message all that much, but it's the way it is. Politically, this place is full of the walking dead.
>>536679341here ya go
>>536684526With trump sucking that much Israeli cock, all of america lost
>>536677930Many people were eager to move on after he lost in 2020 but then he came back like how you flush a toilet and then it comes back up again and spills all over the floor. He'll be in the history books, but that is often about perception. Most people are not MAGA cultists so I highly doubt the historical representation of him will be positive.
