This movie is a good critique of American militarism
It would’ve been better if we find out the bugs were a jewish scam.
>>536709841is it? i'm too much of a brainlet to notice any deep "messages" in media, i just like what i like
>>536709841Why should I empathise with the bugs?
>>536709841you in the middle, me on the right
>>536709982Heinlein was kinda... sick, but yeah, you're not the the first to notice.
>>536709841No. They made the characters too hot and handsome and competent to be any sort of critique.
>>536709841It's Nazis fleeing to Argentina after the war and turning it into paradise for White people.
>>536710079Because you support 2 Tier Stamer and his bug people.
>>536709841the book is .. the film is unintentionally based .. wait until Hollywood releases the reboot version .. it'll be the gayest thing ever seen
>>536709841starship troopers 3 marauder is actually even better than the original.
>>536709841Lol, how old are you?
in reality Americas serve the bugs
>>536710169The protagonists being good looking is part of the satire
>>536710079If you don't kick in a ant nest they'll stay away, in their territory.I don't think we would have shitskins in our countries if it wasn't fore the last decades of kicking ant nests for the account of jews.
>>536710206This. Paul Verhoeven tried to make a parody of the right wing, but as a faggot everything he hates about the right are the things that make it based. I watched this movie almost every single day as a teen and unironically joined the army because of it.
>>536709841ITS AN UGLY PLANET, A BUG PLANET!!!
>>536709841In the fascists military future everything is clean and awesome, more critique at 11
>>536709841Its a satirical representation of fascism
>>536710079Because it is made clear they have human intelligence and feelings and that the humans are invading their homeland to ethnically cleanse them and colonize it like Jews
>>536710596He didn't even go far enough to make it a parody. Rico's father openly criticizes the government and service, yet he's still rich and lives in a mansion and has enough pull that he can send his meathead son to Harvard.
>>536710688The director said he wanted to present fascism as fascists actually see it rather than make a strawman
>>536710379If you don't drop an asteroid on the human's home planet they'll stay away, in their territory. If you do they'll come and kill you, as they should>I don't think we would have shitskins in our countries if it wasn't fore the last decades of kicking ant nests for the account of jewsKicking shit up in other countries didn't make them capable of just flooding into our countries. It was the traitors from within that invited them in, and they were absolutely going to do that regardless. They would just have come up with some other propaganda guilt trip line as they did.
>>536710824Bug Lover
>>536710596No, Verhoeven's entire style is parodying the very concept of "based" by making it as based as possible and forcing the audience to wonder why they like it so much. The based antihero in Flesh and Blood is a psychopathic rapist who has heroic music cues and is meant to be like a swashbuckler
>>536710875he is a kino monster who made only kino
>>536710771Except it makes fascism look cool as fuck (it is).
>>536710991 .. this is revisionist cope
>>536710206This
>>536710899The bugs are on the other side of the galaxy. It's implied that the asteroid was a false flag operation in order to get funding for the orbital defense guns and the war with the bugs. Also they show of new tech at the end of the film. That was probably developed with that funding as well.
>>536710199I'd listen to that band
>>536709841It was satire on the book your stupid migger. It has nothing to do with America.
>>536711103where is the implication either in the film or book or the expanded subsequent films and animations .. where exactly is this implied ?
It had the shower scene.
>>536711222checked .. voyeurist
>>536709841I’m from Buenos Aires and I say, “kill them all!”
>>536711191Its not. Reddit trannys and sois circlejerk about muh mooovies trying to squeeze out some deeper meaning while the rest of us just watch them and have fun.
>>536711191>where is the implication either in the filmUh, at the start of the film they show the bug territory on the other side of the galaxy 100,000 light years away. How do you hit a target with a slow-moving asteroid 100,000 light years away?
>>536709841LOL. Next thing you'll try to convince us of is that RoboCop is a satirical critique of megacorp capitalism.
>>536709841No it isn't
>>536710023Its a completely failed critique that even fellow commies cannot expound upon.Its really just a cool fascist movie.
Starship Troopers paints a portrait of an ideal society. Cities are clean, strong homogeneity, people have a strong sense of what it means to be a citizen, advanced technology, fuck up its enemies by all means necessary. Leftist telling it’s actually a satire and le evil fascism are just showing that they are dysgenic freaks that desire society being a amalgamation of filth.
>>536711366Bugs use bug bio tech .. Sci-fi never has to justify the rational behind a tech .. Star Trek Transporters for instance .. utterbullshit .. destroy the original body beam the information, rebuild the body .. I seriously who would do that to themselves .. Even Bones is unnerved by the implications .. it's just a plot device to move smoothly from the ship stage to the planet stage or whatever.
>>536711366Alright tranny (you lost btw) the actual theory is that Carmen was at fault for diverting the asteroid when she hit it with the ship while she was on the training mission. Back to your circleherk now.
>>536711103>>536711366The bugs necessarily MUST have a form of FTL capability simply to allow them to colonize other star systems outside of Klendathu. Just shooting their spores out of their butts would take on the order of billions of years just to reach the closest systems to them.And if they don't then the claim that the bugs sent the meteor would fall flat on even the most braindead retard, yet not a single character is shown to question it even slightly
>>536711487This
>>536709841>not the first movie to accidentally get everything right
It isIt's also cool as shit on a surface level perspectiveLove Starship Troopers
>>536711577Now who's making shit up? The Bugs colonize worlds with spores, not technology. It's said it the film. There is nothing that indicates they have technology. The satirical tone of the film makes it obvious that it's a false flag. >>536711595The asteroid wasn't supposed to be there, retard, that's why she hit it. That implies the asteroid was already on it's way to Earth.
>>536710596>joined the armyTell me you suck dick without telling you suck dick
>>536711832Im just telling you what your fellow reddit trannys believe i dont give a shit. Asteroid go boom, kill bugs. Kys while youre at it.
>>536710375Yeah except johnny rico is a filipino.So you white washed a minority character.And your satire is so poorly done that everyone sided with the militarists.You have to face reality>I helped my transgendered partner dialate with a dragon buttplugIsn't as compelling as >a citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal responsibility.Also just saying something is satire isn't a good argument.I could say I made up a story in my head about how you are a joke and then say you are stupid if you don't hate yourself now. Is that valid critique?Here is what is actually going on with this movie; it got wrung through development hell and the incompetent staff tried to save face by making it into play pretend political satire.
>>536710875The director got told to save a movie called 'bug hunt' and pretended fucking up was his plan all along.>durr you no get itIf you make a propaganda piece and people start cheering for your enemies, you fucked up.
>>536711103I'm going to remake the harry potter movies and claim voldemort is a false flag actor to give dumbledore power.Seriously, heinlein wrote idealized scifi versions of left wing governments too, just read those and stay in your lane.
>>536711279As the story goes, the American actors were nervous and embarrassed when they were going to film that scene. Verhoeven, Dutch guy, came and said wtf why are you still dressed we are filming the shower scene now. So he took off his clothes and was there standing naked in front of them like, no excuses, now get naked.
>>536711884>twitter meme on 4chanwtf are you doing?
>>536709841
>>536712767The army sucks dick and so do you
>>536710948Bugs are Palestinians
>>536712320>If you make a propaganda piece and people start cheering for your enemies, you fucked up.incorrect, it was correctly interpreted at the timeit just turns out, everybody mistook realityleaving this, in retrospect, as (probably) the least wrong alternative
>>536710206The book wasnt a critique of military or american militaryIf you read the opening school chapters, it takes a giant shit on liberalism as a failed experiment meddling in everything military and facist
>>536711103Youre the worst sky marshall everProbably a brain bugbug typed this post
>>536713044Why does your country have that problem?
>>536711177No it wasn’t. Paul openly admits that he didn’t read the book. The original script for the film was titled “Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine” and then the producers suggested that they purchase the rights to Starship Troopers and the character names to make the film more marketable to the sci-fi crowd.>>536710194Juan Rico is unironically Filipino.
>>536710688>>536710875The Terran Federation was communist.
>>536713223Wtf I love bugs now?
>>536713501
>>536709841It's actually a cool portrayal of American militarism.
>satire>backfires and makes militaristic society higly functionnal and desirableI guess it's why they're making a new one? Because we didn't "get it" the first time?
>>536711366Math.
>>536713386My favorite chapter was the one about "juvenile delinquents". Absolutely prescient, especially now that my country is getting rolled by teenagers who know for a fact they'll get off lightly terrorizing the public with impunity
>>536711672They’re a fully developed, space-faring, industrialized civilization with advanced cities and structured militaries and weaponry.
>>536713713The point is to see things through the warped lens that fascists such as Zionists do. "I'm from Tel Aviv and I say kill 'em all"
>>536713287Let me be a bit more direct; putting an insane solipsistic conspiracy theory in your movie and then pretending your paranoid delusion is a valid critique of reality is ridiculous.I'll prove it to you; what am I thinking about you right now? If you don't know you are just too stupid to get it.
>>536713825They already made 5 more movies (they all suck).
>>536714499I enjoyed them all .. a guilty pleasure
Roughneck Chronicles was goodhttps://youtu.be/pMJ7S4iwXSc
>>536713505Not enough niggers
>>536709841When I'm in a making fascists look badass competition and my opponent is a leftist filmmaker
>>536709841not really Verhoeven portrayed fascism way too good for it to be “ironically” bad this ofcourse because the 90’s were so awesome
>>536714178>what am I thinking about you right now?Your boyfriend's prolapsed rectum.
>>536715584Guess you are just too stupid to get my awesome satire.
>>536714807That actor had to flee the country because the gangs seethed so much at these movies. He literally had to learn Spanish and start over playing Pablo Escobar for Netflix.
>>536714178>t. civilian
>>536714940>i cannot imagine fascism not being badyou are a slave to the status quo
>>536710128>peepee yummy>Agsshoooly peepee is DiSGuStinG!!>peepee yummyI yield.
It really isn't, Paul Verhoeven admittedly hated the book (because it made fun of communists).His seethe led to this movie where he tries to make the 'fashy' aethetic look bad but fails miserably.
>>536709841No, it's not. The book itself is a proposal of a military based society, hence citizenship equals service. Also, the movie doesn't really highlight Rico's time at the Academy, which is why Robert Heinlein's book is on reading lists at actual American military academies. Specifically chapter 12 when we learn about the Revolt of the Scientists when a bunch of nerds (intelligent elite) thought they knew best and made things terrible and a bunch of veterans said, no faggots, this doesn't work and created something far better than what the science dorks were trying to. https://youtu.be/zwFMszIVGko?t=18910&si=xlle4sNJVbj4Zy5Q (5:15:10 if it doesn't open to the right time, that's the beginning of chapter 12). This philosophy is not at all addressed in the movie and should've been a highlight of the movie. But the intelligent elite are the ones who made the movie version. Their own little Revolt of the Scientists was had when they made the movie as they deliberately hid this theme
>>536709841Dizzy was best for Rico, not Carmen. I said it.
>>536709982They were a scam though. The was was provoked.That said the book and the movie are their own things respectively but theyre both fucking awesome and explore similar topics. Ithey got me to enlist at 18 but i quickly realized how much of a mistake that was with the way our govt is.Filthy kikes.
The most based character was the black guy who sacrificed himself in the end so the whites could leave. 10/10 ending
Why don't people Autistically write more of their own fiction? >>536717147
>>536717585Honestly you should write and influence more than be influenced... Or rather mould the clay rather than be moulded like clay.
>>536710079That’s the point the movie is making. The bugs are an adversary that has been vilified and dehumanized into an unrecognizable and abhorrent sub human group. This is what xenophobia and racism do.They project an image of wholesale vitriol as mass judgment. You should care about the bugs because they aren’t really bugs and from the standpoint of the other, you are the bug. The only cure for this is to stop seeing each other as the other.
>>536711103>muh media literacydvd commentary from paul verhoven himself says that the bugs did drop that rock on buenos aires you fucking commie
>>536710079Because if you don't love the enemy that wants to eat you alive, you are a bigot, duh.>>536710379Jew. What ant's nest did we kick in India recently? What did we do in Sudan and Kenya? What was our role in the syrian civil war? Please enlighten me.
>>536718006Canonically if you count the films speaking they are indeed a Hive Race with absolutely no interest in forming a benevolent relationship with Humanity. Even in the books they weren't native to the planet contested by Terrans and implied strongly to be resource strippers.
>>536710375Really goes to show much of a demented freak the director was to think that putting good-looking well-grown people everywhere would constitute some kind of clever social commentary against """fascist tyranny""".
>>536718006Holy shit you are a cuck beyond belief. Humans (whites) should conquer the galaxy and eliminate any aliens they find
>>536718377>EliminateNah, we should bleach all life in the universe.
>>536710128Do you notice the Jewish anti middle class systematic in these bell curve memes?
>>536717967Were all young and kinda dumb once.Some are just less dumb than others.For my part i enjoyed my service but i would t reccomend it and i wouldnt say it was a good thing. Regardless of MOS.
>>536718377Holy shit. Your soul has been diluted beyond belief. You are a dimwit who has been educated by action heroes. This will ultimately betray you because the last man standing approach doesn’t leave much room for error or community. You are a failure as a human being and one day your philosophy will run you aground.
>>536718361He basically tried to scupper Heinlein's own work and failed miserably. We call that an "Own Goal" in England... Heinlein WON and this speaks to his wisdom in writing even after death.
>>536709841what do you want to live forever?
>>536718508Honestly you have experience and knowledge and by no means is it over... Heinlein himself was a Veteran and this served him well as a writer.
>>536718636I just don't get people defending the satire angle; inserting a contrived conspiracy theory into the plot doesn't prove the ideas are stupid, it just proves the director has control over the setting.Something tells me these people make decisions using harry potter references.
>>536718938Leftists are slugs that glide over unspoilt pastures simply because they unconsciously desire the quality of other viewpoints while resenting them for being other viewpoints... JK Rowling is having none of this either and I support her at least on this principle.
>>536709841They even have a foid soldier. Pretty badass.
>>536710824Imagine being a bug sympathizer. You get your human status revoked, the punishment for this treason is you must be dissolved in acid. >>536710771The great thing is the good guys won in the end. Who would honestly sympathize with literal bugs? Bad satire. In order to have human-bug relations, the brain bug would have to suck our brains out of our skulls. Whose job will that be? Yours? Better to just call the (fascist) Orkan man.
>>536710875so what's the actual issue he's trying to critique? their society seems pretty great. those without a willingness to put their life on the line have no influence on politics and the use of the military. if anything, the starship troopers RTS is a more effective satire than the film
>>536719422Orkan is a good Turkish name...
>>536711103The false flag theory only started getting passed around in the last 10 years as the left got more and more upset with anything glorifying the right. It's fucking nonsense with no basis to support it in the film.
>>536710596What was your MOS? probably a faggot POG who missed the fun part of GWOT >11B 2004-2010I popped smoke as I could after Obama, fuuuuuuuuuuck that gay nigger, fucking ruined the military. And save the ZOGbot faggotry, none of us knew about that shit early on when I joined and of course, every single person who responds "knew" but you were the only one and probably thought 1488 types were just LARPing retards (because that's how they used to come off in the 90s and early 2000s, not coherent at all, and guys like Dr. Pierce were heavily suppressed, didn't know who he even was until about 2010 and even then) because half the wehraboos I came across treated national socialism like an edgy meme, because prior to listening to him speak for the first time, it all seemed like a joke. Anyways, this wasn't supposed to turn into this>what did your faggoty rant justifying why you were a ZOGbot have to do with Starship Troopers Because I unironically also joined because of BOOKS like Starship Troopers see my other post>>536717100 I'm also the real life equivalent of LT Dan from Forrest Gump, Mom's side of the family are German stock that have been here since the 1600s and the original settlers of what would become North Carolina and later Tennessee, Dad's side are Irish that came right before and fought in the Civil War. Even the women serve. My Great Aunt was one of the first female Marines. The America that used to exist obviously no longer does, but they're used to be something to be said for those who served. It's a shame that the kikes have ruined what used to be a nice institution to be a part of, the traditions along with things like drill and ceremony, were pretty cool. Oh well, it's just going to be overweight and underachieving retards using kikes as an excuse for not joining back in the day when in reality you were just a coward who was ready for someone else to do violence on your behalf. I really don't give a shit what half of you will have to say
>>536718783>Heinlein himself was a VeteranHe specifically was a Naval Academy graduate and subsequent Naval officer, which is why his academy scenes in the book are studied in actual military academy military science classes worldwide, again see>>536717100He should have been a military science and/or an ethics/anthropology professor
>uhh its not anti-fascist because i like the movie. also me liking the movie makes the director seethe! also i like the star wars prequels out of spite for RLM.
>>536709841Starship Troopers is a good litmus test to check if people can separate fiction from politics, and separate fiction from reality.
>>536710678>>536717100>chapter 12 when we learn about the Revolt of the Scientists when a bunch of nerds (intelligent elite) thought they knew best and made things terrible and a bunch of veterans said, no faggots, this doesn't work and created something far better than what the science dorks were trying to.reads like vatnik fanfiction
>>536720455Also, I'll add. Regardless of serving the kikes in proxy wars for Greater Israel when I was playing dress up as an grunt in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm now a school trained Infantryman with combat experience who's seen an insurgency up close and personal and can better protect my wife and kids in a SHTF scenario far greater than virtually anyone in this thread. Also, it's a shame that so many of my fellow GWOT veterans became vet bros and useless alcoholics because all it would take is a few guys from back then to turn any major city into Fallujah and I'm not even remotely close to joking. We've joked about it amongst ourselves, what would happen if we ever have to fight the US military and we all laughed because even while we were sitting there on active duty, we knew what time is was. I'd love to fight the cherry ass military that don't even rate FOBbit
>>536720958Not in the slightest. You've never actually read it
>>536720840The movie was nothing at all like the book and was trash. I'm not sure why so many people like it, the movie really does come across as The Boys tier satire at points because of how the kikes fucked the screenplay.
>>536721183It's a dumb fun movie, and it plays itself completely straight throughout the whole thing.
>>536720661>Revolt of the Scientists.Honestly he knew what was up... You have people like Bill Gates and Andrew Fauci arguably committing far worse atrocities than would be allowed by a competent military leadership. Warlords will rise once the technocrats prove to be completely malicious or incompetent to be trusted.
>>536718361> against """fascist tyranny"> againstAnd I assumed he tried to make Fascism look much more fun than it is.
>>536709841Day by day that critique closing reality.
>>536721059i have. the book is one giant wank about how cool enlisted men are and how not being in the military makes you a dork parasite.the system of government is also completely retarded and would be a massive breeding ground for corruption and nepotism.
>>536721330This is also coming from me who has studied biology longer than half of my lifespan at 28.
>>536721331>fascism is fun>over half the cast dies in combat
>>536721509It is indeed a war movie, yes
>>536721460>about how cool enlisted menIt also makes the case for not only why citizenship requires service but something civilians might not think about is what we refer to as "mustangs", officers who were prior enlisted, and why they make better officers than someone fresh out of college because they are making decisions with the perspectives of down to the lowest enlisted because they were once a Day 1 private themselves and the cherry ass PFC and in the E-4 mafia, things most guys fresh out of college will never experience. They also have virtually instant respect because of this, especially when your PL (platoon leader) is a 2LT with a CIB who's fresh out of OBC, you know he was just in your boots a few months/years ago. This is also what the movie is trying to convey to the civilian populace. The intellectual elite are the officers with the enlisted experience and therefore perspective
While the movie is entertaining it doesn't have shit on the book.
It's not even sci Fi, look at Ukraine. That's just normal life.
>>536713523They should explore his Filipino roots further; since Filipino culture is several meta levels of insanity and genius rolled into one.Take our languageThen among Chinese, ours' and their term for brother is Kuya, but among Peruvians, our's and their term for father it Tatay. WTF? Among Filipinos and Spanish our term for uncle is Tio, and among Indians and Filipinos are term for spouse is Asawa. WT? Your Father is Incan? your wife is Indian? Your brother is Chinese? Say all the Tagalog words for your own family members alone and you basically cited the cultures of the whole planet.A Multilingual Spy would ENJOY living in the Philippines.
>>536725256The Irony of AlakIt is quite the paradox that the Filipino catch-all term for alcohol, Alak, stems from the Arabic word Arak. Despite the strict Islamic prohibition against consuming intoxicating beverages, Filipinos casually use a Muslim-derived term every time they pour a glass of wine or liquor.The Amoy Chico Translation TrapIn the Philippines, a heavily intoxicated person is called Amoy Chico, meaning they smell like the native Mexican chico fruit. However, because chico translates to "boy" in Spanish, the cross-cultural context is hilarious: getting drunk on Arabic-named liquor makes a Filipino smell like fermented fruit, but to a Spanish speaker, it sounds like you are saying they smell like a young man!The Puto Culture ClashThe Filipino steamed rice cake, Puto, is an absolute linguistic landmine. The word comes directly from Tamil and South Indian culinary terminology, but in Spanish, it translates to a highly derogatory slang term for a male prostitute. The idea of Latino and South Asian cultures colliding over the literal translation of this word paints a truly comedic picture. Imagine the encounter between a Mexican Cholo and Indian Chola.
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>>536717171BasedAlso (((Dina Meyer))) aged incredibly well
>>536710128This movie is the great redditor filter. You can instantly tell a midwit when they say "da bugs dindo nuffin when chucked asteroids at earth. it's just dey culcha." They are just trained to screech at anything that resembles fascism. Heinlein liked it though.
The sort of redditard I was talking about here btw: >>536728259>>536711103>It's implied that the asteroid was a false flag operation.No that's not implied you total faggot. You can't point to a single piece of evidence from the film that supports this faggoty headcannon. You need to go back to r/NiggerLovers
>>536709841AhemFuck Buenos Aires I will do it again
>>536718503But it do be like dat
>>536709841>Militarist propaganda in film.I'm not even going to bother reading other replies in this thread that will inevitably Pol lacks the intellect to understand a 90s popcorn flick.>B-b-but he made it look coolFucking hell.
>>536711191There isn't even an asteroid in the book. The bugs launch a sneak attack on Buenos Aires with ships and ground troops and kill a shitload of people.
>>536719557Its made as if a propaganda film for the regime like Top Gun or The Green Berets. Of course it "seems pretty great", but you are supposed to notice its not entirely convincing and there are some unsettling things about it. If you get, as I hope, drafted into a ground war in Iran, Top Gun 2 will still seem really cool and you can watch it on a loop when you're getting treated for having you cock shot off. Its literally interrupted with adverts for federal service, this isn't an obscure fan theory.https://www.af.mil/DAF-Entertainment-Liaison-Office/https://www.navy.mil/navinfowest/https://www.war.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2062735/how-why-dod-works-with-hollywood/>>536731176OK, so I looked and I was right.
>>536710128dude on the left reporting in late.
>>536709841No, it's a about Roman Republican ideals. Read the book.
>>536709841>>536710128OP is correct. it's not mid normie IQ to acknowledge Heinlein wrote a book with simple enemies that glossed over the chances for a diplomatic solutionthe main character of the starship troopers book also thought that only people who served in the military should be politicians. while on the surface that makes sense, but i've met too many retards and fascists in the military so i know that would go south real quick. just look no further than pete hegseth and how he sucks israel's cock. just because someone serves in the military doesn't make them better
>>536736799That's not the point Heinlein made in the book, the point is that by serving in the military, you've shown that you can put the common good before your own interests, which in some cases can be far more valuable than simple competence.
>>536726834She aged like fine wine. Still smoking at nearly 60. Kinda makes me happy to see the main cast are still together doing the convention circuit (even though Ironside has turned into an obese woke faggot). RIP Patrick Muldoon.
>>536721015You laugh about being able to kill our domestic enemies but the reason it doesn't happen is because our ancestors killed the cavelers who were the types who would have actually watered the tree with blood again.
>>536709841I wish. Imagine if anyone who wants to run for public office, they need to serve before running for any government position.
>>536737027>by serving in the military, you've shown that you can put the common good before your own interestsOh damn, I didn't know the military didn't get paid.
>>536717585There is something really fucking alluring of just giving up autonomy to be a part of something greater. Kind of regret not enlisting and falling for the college trope. Apart from a little partying, my early 20's were a complete waste anyways.
>>536709841This movie is a good critique on rape culture.
