>capitalizes the S in smark
very interesting indeed

>>19422723
But enough about Bret Hart

>>19422723
The first smark champion was Randy Savage

https://archived.moe/asp/search/text/capital%2A%20smark/

>>19422776
This board sucks because there's about 5 people who are like this & they ruin it every day with their shit spam

>>19422723
first smark champion? obviously lou thesz

>>19422723
I bet the trans freakshow on scjerk is loving this thread

that was cm reddit

>>19422741
>>19422748
Zoomers are pure brain rot

>>19423057
what's the answer

>>19423062
It's in OP

>>19423062
first smark champ was hephaistos
fired and got himself over on the indies, called back up after smarks complained long enough

>>19423118
That's wrong though

>>19422875
Yep the redditor fags who were Punk fans in 2011 are the exact same people who went on to become AEW fans

>>19423133
It's correct
cope

>>19422735
>Seething about Smark being capitalized
very interesting indeed

>>19423163
The smark choice that year was Batista

>>19423172?
Why do you capitalise it though? Honest question.

>>19423174
I also remember it this way

>>19423194
Smarks rewrite history yet again

>>19423216
They now claim the Yes Movement was the company's grand plan all along, not a smark champion.

>>19423226
Normies wanted Bryan even more than smarks did. Only the dumbest marks cared about le evolution triple threat

>>19423244
>Casuals wanted an indie midget champ

>>19423272
Oh, so you weren't even watching back then. Figures

>>19423226
The Yes Movement was so obviously a Triple Paul move it's not even funny. Look at how he booked Gargano in NXT. Paul was always a secret smark.

the best wrestlemania ever while triple nose fumbled 40 and 41 lmfaoooo

>>19423272
Unironically, yes

>>19423272
If you legitimately aren't familiar with the buildup and feel of WM30, it was incredible.

>>19423312
>Cody winning was a fumble
lmao Romanjeet forever seething

>>19423368
>Wrestlemania attendance down YoY
>Smackdown views and attendance hit record lows
>people only care about Cody if he's feuding with Roman, Cena or The Rock

>>19423334
i know you Smarks loved it
>684,000 PPV buys

>>19423393
That was the year where they launched the Network, you could get the trial and watch wrestlemania for FREE.
and Bryan sells 684k buys anyways

>>19423393
it was the first PPV on the network, so ppv buys were obviously down.
https://youtu.be/ttiGTC5B2gg

>>19423381
>it's all cody's fault, not the fact that the ticket prices doubled and no one has cable
WWE was the hottest it ever was because people wanted to see Cody finish the story. The attendance increased because of him, not the other way around.

>>19422723
Nah it was Bret

>>19422723
>le smark champ
>y had the whole stadium behind him, women and kids included
Yeah, nah.

>>19423418
that was because of Sami, Bloodline and The Rock, thoughbeit

>>19423404
He's a draw in your mind as well?

>>19423455
Dude imagine if a show was free and you convinced seven hundred thousand people to pay to see you
He might be the best draw of all time. If he's not a draw then he was a total win!

>>19423464
He was such a huge draw that they gave it away for free?

>>19423521
They tried and 700k literally forced money into Vince's hand, plus overnight they had a huge installbase for the Network.

>>19423529
I don't get why antismarks deny reality just because they don't like small wrestlers. I don't like Cena or Roman, but to deny that they are over is just retarded.

>>19423529
only nerds and Smarks sub to the WWE network
so that backs my claim up even more

>>19423562
But Bert was a mark for himself, he thought the championship was real

>>19423566
holy shit, you're retarded

>>19423566
That's the only way to watch the shows though now
They don't even call them PPVs. Probably because after Bryan they couldn't get peope to pay for them.

>>19423570
Janetty to Ernie for sure

>>19422723
why does Based D-Bry make vanilla gorilla size queen fags piss and shit themselves in utter seethe?

>>19423584
don't blame him, he doesn't really know the topic

>>19423584
Wrestlemania 30 was a decade ago, it's easy to forget. There are bitter jaded 22 year old smarks who have no fucking clue about it, which is odd to think about.

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The kind of wrestling Danielson did on the indies, and the very generic underdog babyface stuff he did in WWE are vastly different than the wrestling that inspired Tony Kahn to start AEW

>>19423613
Was that up for debate? Danielso wrestles like Benoit. He uses like two of his finishers.

>>19423587
>That's the only way to watch the shows though now
Most people don't

>>19423605
I've been watching since 1999, and Bryan's run from 2012-2014 was really special. He was over with casuals and smarks alike. I hadn't seen a crowd react like that since Austin in the late 90s.
The real indicator was among my family and friends, they all had their favorites, Orton, Punk, Taker, Ziggler, Kane etc but they all rooted for Bryan. Unlike other babyfaces booked in his position, he felt incredibly sincere. He also had the charisma to pull off being a serious heel, comedy guy or babyface. equally believable in all roles.
I'm going to go back and rewatch that 2012-2014 run. Probably the last time WWE was great.

>>19423613
>I think Bryan Danielson fits on AEW like a glove. As long as he will consider wrestling with us, that door is always open. I would bend over backwards for him and do anything for Bryan Danielson
t. Tony Khan

>>19423629
Why don't you stop being so negative and just go watch Wm30? You might like it.

>>19423418
>WWE was the hottest it ever was because people wanted to see Cody finish the story.

And to think, we now know that the Rock was actively trying to fuck that multi-year story up by sidelining Cody and injecting himself into the main event against Roman.

>>19423634
>he felt incredibly sincere
fag
>believable
kek. He's 5'9 with a shit physique (love handles)

>>19423637
Tony would bend over backwards for Pelle Prima cause he loves wrestling and is gay.

>>19423660
yes he's a Smark

>>19423634
Wrestlemania XXX was the last good mania.

>>19423653
nah Anon nailed it, believable as hell
dangerous little fucker. you know he chased down a burglar and choke him out once?

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>>19424390
This again shows me that you're a Smark
because you rank a real fight with some random hispanic low life as making him believable rather than his ring work
Because it's not believable

>>19424437
No, his ring work was extra believable, he would work around his size and be really intense and technical. Benoit but you can talk about him with normies.
It's a shame you've built this idea in your head about him.

>>19423187
bitchtits always does this

>>19422875
/thread

>>19423689
>Smark
stop doing that

>>19422723
I don't agree with the sentiment either way, but that's objectively not true. Rob Van Dam went over John Cena for the world title in Hammerstein Ballroom 8 years before this in front of 2000 of the sweatiest smarks imaginable

>>19422723
This was literally a repeat of Benoit down to it being the 10 year anniversary of WM20

>>19424470
>It's a shame you've built this idea in your head about him.
it's an idea that he's 5'9 and pudgy?
>he would work around his size
classic Smark talk
You see he's small and see him "work around it"
But it's okay because you're a Smark so you don't need to actually be convinced that he's believable

No. Anti-smarks (the biggest smarks of all) wanted Batista to win.

>>19424590
You're the one on the outside here, Bryan was really over. Vince kept him around the uppercard for years. Calling me names isn't going to change what happened.

Benoit and Eddie at XX was the one designed to send the hardcores home happy. Bret actually got a shot at being the face of the company, mainly because Vince needed someone who wasn't a roid guy. Bryan is in-between these because while he wasn't going to get an actual shot at being the top guy the whole company had become focused on him and they needed the payoff.

>>19422723
Yep. He irreparably broke the minds of so many smarks. 99% of the time when they complain about people being underused and ruined in WWE they are talking about this ugly fag

>>19422875
That part.

>>19422723
Was this guy really over and based or was it all fake and manufactured and cringe? I wasnt watching but he looks like shit

>>19426961
the former

>>19426961
Yeah he was pretty damn over
But like everything in wrestling post like 2007 they fumbled hard

>>19422723
>he paved the way for AEW
That part

>>19423430
>thoughbeit
Why does this word seem to always follow the most ass opinions this website can muster? Strange, isn't it?

>>19426961
Anon, think of how over a guy that looks like that would have to be in order for Vince to put him over every member of Evolution in one night

>>19422723
Benoit

>>19427365
To be fair he was meant to hold it until Summerslam that year if he hadn't been injured, he was gonna be the one Brock viciously squashed like a sack of shit.

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>>19422723
Nope there was another

>>19429046
Just like Kofi some years later. At least the wokes can't say it was a race thing, it was a Vince thing.

>>19429046
>>19429367
that's not true. Bryan and Lesnar had a competitive match at Survivor Series. One of Lesnar's best matches ever.

>>19428907
Yes he was the first champ that was forced through by the Smarks
That's the point

>>19429421
I'm sure they did, they had incredible respect for each other.
The Summerslam 2014 was a deliberate total squash. It was to establish Brock's power level when he returned from beating Taker.
It wasn't about burying Bryan, or Lesnar disliking him.

>>19429430
How so?
Vince didn't have to give it to them. He just would have made a lot less money.

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>>19426961
He was over with the Smarks
that's it

>>19429448
No but he gave in and it harmed the business and led to AEW and their indie midgetry
The idea that if Smarks pick you you should get the belt even though you're a midget midcarder
In the old days Vince would've stood strong
Keep in mind that he was busy taking shits on female employees etc so he might nottof been in his right mind

>>19429489
Well I appreciate you bumping the thread a lot so more people get to hear about Bryan anyway

>>19429489
Vince gave the belt to Shawn and Bret
They were both midgets of their time

>>19423562
it took roman liek a decade to get over. i don't think any wrestler in history got as many chances as him

>>19429434
>they had incredible respect for each other
Really? I'm surprised Brock didnt see him as a gay midget

The couch is downstairs

I can turn you a light if you fraid

>>19430131
Bryan Danielson is a real one, you gonna say Brock Lesnar is wrong?

>>19426961
He was over and fans were upset about a mania main event being an evolution circlejerk

>>19429453
everyone in the audience from 2012-2014 was a smark? Conor was a smark?

>>19422748
This is true. Plus modern scripted matches start with him

>>19429792
>They were both midgets of their time
what youre saying is they wouldn't be midgets in the Smark indie midget era of your Daniel Bryans

>>19430256
bryan isn't the start of smart marks liking a wrestler and you keep trying to tell us that he is

>>19430173
casuals stopped watching wrestling and they don't buy tickets to a show and stand and cheer for a midget
check the viewership numbers

>>19430272
He was the first guy to become champion purely from a Smark push
yes Smarks existed before but they weren't catered to
First Semen Spunk appealed to the Smarks and embraced the Smark appeal
Then Smarks decided to put their power behind Danie Bryan and Vince gave in and allowed Smarks to book his show
AEW is basically Smarks booking an entire promotion with their beloved indie midgets

>>19430278
delusional

>>19430325
Hit him with the guitar then

>>19430299
you aren't doing anything but stating things and trying to force your point
people on this board were there at the time

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>>19430325
you see the blue line

Voting worst or better than tay

>>19430332
>people on this board
this board is 80% Smarks
>were there at the time
The smell must've been horrendous

>>19430353
Bryan was champion for 2 months

>>19430372
1. It set a precedent
2. a symptom of the wider Smarkification of wrestling that was happening at the time
3. funny because i was told itt that he was this amazing draw (he wasn't)

>>19430372
I legitimately wonder where this discourse comes from because most people in the business have a lot of respect for Bryan.

>>19423613
It's amazing how the cringe elevates and peaks with the botched flippy chokeslam reversal and incredibly bad knee strike.

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>>19424590
>5'9 and pudgy
So, you also hate Ric Flair?

>>19430421
I'm sure it was Bryan being world champion for 2 months and not the 10 year Roman push