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Anybody else here fell for the "self improvement" meme?

>$20 000 in savings after working my ass off for the last 5 years
>not fat anymore (was 120kg, now 80kg, no stretch marks)
>go to gym regularly
>no social anxiety anymore as I deal with many people everyday at my work
>eat healthily
>no fap for more than a year
>almost don't play video games anymore (max 5 hours per week)

>still a 25 year old virgin

How come Chads' don't have to do any of that shit and still can get girlfriend on the same night they start talking on Tinder with them?

I am seriously considering leaving my work when I become 26, spend all my savings just rotting at home and then an hero when I reach 30.

What is the fucking point to living for me...
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The joke lies in the fact that Chad still has to do all the work. The difference is that he succeeds while the beta, who puts in the same work, doesn't.
Women never approach men. If a woman finds a guy attractive but he doesn't make a move, she will rather assume that he already has a girlfriend, that he is gay or that he doesn't find her attractive enough. It would never cross a girl's mind that a man is just too insecure or inexperienced and that it's up to her to take initiative. Women are so used to getting approached, that they will rather just stay alone than approaching men - also because if you don't walk up to her, eventually some guy does.
Your progress on self-improvement doesn't mean shit if you're unable to talk to women.
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>>61033348
I can talk to women, whether it's work related or relationship related. I can get first dates, however, I get ghosted after them.

I am just angry that instead of wasting my time on all this trivial shit I could have just living at my parents basement and just rotting in there, instead of wasting my time trying to improve.
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You have to improve for your own sake. Women are secondary. And you are clearly not good on dates, you need practice and some advice.

Why is your default mode to "rot away"? Like if you had a few years left and some money your preference would be to rot away? Might be a mental disorder.
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>>61033385
>I can talk to women, whether it's work related or relationship related. I can get first dates, however, I get ghosted after them.
You are like 80% there and about to give up. You are on like step 8 out of 10 and instead of learning the last 2 steps you just want to give up. Sad!
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>>61033348
Chads definitely don't need to do any self improvement
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>>61033415
>Why is your default mode to "rot away"?
Because I don't feel happy with "temporary pleasures" anymore. Travelling, something exciting only lasts for a few hours or days, and then you go back to your regular routine.

Instead of living in swings of sadness and happiness, I realized, what works for me, is to live in mediocrity so I never get those "swings".

I used to get escorts or go to brothels, but then I realized it is all just pleasure for 1 hour and then I go back to my regular life. What is the point of that hour of pleasure???

>And you are clearly not good on dates, you need practice and some advice.
Oh there we go with "self improvement" rubbish and "needing practice". Nobody has to try as hard as I do, why do I need "practice" on such a basic instinctive interaction that just comes naturally for everyone.
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>>61033217
You're a virgin so women can sense that there's something wrong with you. Just wait til you actually get to tell one you're a virgin and she's disgusted by it.
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>>61033348
Dude if you ever got out more you'd know that that just isn't true...

I'm skinny asf, complete fucking nerd, literally only play vidya and listen to music.

I've had girls approach me.. Ngl it was weird and unexpected as fuck but it happened.

Women like guys who are passionate about their hobbies and shit, and who actually try to be decent human beings.

Gtfo with this incel bullshit and actually try talking to another person - and when you fuck up just find someone new and try again. There's fucking billions of chicks out there, you'll find one who likes the same shit as you as long as you try.
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>>61033440
No but he needs to do all the work to get a relationship, women don't just throw themselves at you, not even Chad.
>>61033385
Are you short, ugly, have no circle of friends, don't have your own place to live or just a shitty one bedroom apartment that looks gross?
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>>61033500
>Women like guys ... who actually try to be decent human beings.
This is so false it's laughable. You're saying this to praise yourself, not to say anything about what women actually think.
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>How come Chads' don't have to do any of that shit and still can get girlfriend on the same night they start talking on Tinder with them?


Im getting real tired of brainlets spouting this annoying trope. Chads do ALL of this. ITS just that they had dads that made them do it from ayoung age so they never had to learn todoitthemselves.

Chads are always fit, healthy, have hobbies and interests that make them interesting. good looking people (good genes, fit, healthy etc) are usually interesting and have stable lives.
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>>61033348
this is the most based shit ive read on this site in years. It's good to know theres some level headed, not too far gone people still on thisboard. THAnks anon. it gets real tiring listening to clueless idiots on this board

All OPs thoughts boil down to is
>WHy arent I chad
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>>61033500
>I'm skinny asf, complete fucking nerd, literally only play vidya and listen to music.
>I've had girls approach me
Yes and I'm Lawrence of Arabia.
And even if it's true then I don't know in what fantasy country you're living in but here this is definitely not the case.
Once you're past 25, no one takes you seriously if you say you're passionate about vidya, except if you are literally in the top 1 percent and can make a living out of it. Games are for children, they're nothing but a kind of drug specifically designed to maximize pleasure by targeting your dopamine system. You can learn nothing of worth from gaming.
That's why "gamers", who have nothing else in their life, are still frowned upon by most people, and rightfully so. It's like getting asked "what are you doing with your life" and you proudly answer "I watch porn 6 hours a day, it's my passion".
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>>61033523
I dunno what to tell you anon... I don't need to prove myself to you lol

I didn't say I was fucking good at it, just that actually fucking trying counts.

If you don't even like yourself at least a little bit - what woman is going to want that?
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>>61033217
I fell for the self improvement meme, I read more books in the past 2 years than I probably would've in my whole life.

If your only goal is to find a percect waifu to give your precious flower to, then you should find better goals, cayse you'll find her soon enough.

>>61033348
Objectively false. A girl at my uni stalked me, found out my name and number, and messaged me to tell me she thought I was cute. It was the first and only time that ever happened to me, made me feel like a million bux. She was an instagram model too, but I never went anywhere with it because she was fucking crazy as you might have guessed lmao.

>inb4 WHY DIDNT YOU COOOOM BRO YOU COULDVE COOMED IN HER
sex doesn't really appeal to me that much, I prefer relationships over giving myself away to anyone and everyone. After all, how could I expect (and get) a perfect virginal gf if I didn't hold myself to the same healthy and realistic standards?
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>>61033504
I rent a studio apartment that was built in 2019, very modern and clean, I am a very clean person.

6'1, white, have a recessed mouthbreather jaw but I hide it with my beard. Friends are just coworkers basically.

The only thing why I get ghosted I guess is my top teeth stick out when I relax and don't try to hide it. I think it might be one of the reasons I get ghosted because I always make sure my photos don't have my mouthbreathing jaw in full display.
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>>61033440
Lol giga cope

I am attractive. As in girls used to literally follow me around at school and say loads of coy sexual jokes to me all the time.

I gained 40 lbs and no girls ever take notice of me. I've lost about 20 of those 40 lbs and I see girls staring at me whenever I go to places. You think chad puts in no work but in reality they eat well, go to the gym, stay fashion conscious, keep good hygiene, they probably play sports and work on themselves.

Fat attractive people are still unattractive. If you see a chad IRL, they care enough to be fit and healthy so they obviously care enough to have a social life, toimprove themselves, to have hobbies and interests etc.

Losers just assume chads do fuck all. just sit down all daywaiting for everything to fall onto their lap. NO, they have intuition and drive. Depressed people cant imagine others having drive to dothings so they assume chads live like them. WAsting their lives
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>>61033569
>fatcels are volcels
What else is new?
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>>61033217
>How come Chads' don't have to do any of that shit
They don't have to because they want to. Ever though that maybe being social, productive, active and healthy feels good? That people do it for that reason?
Not for some "I'll do these tasks so I get the pussy I'm entitled to" -reason.
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>>61033590
My point is, if you see a CHAD IRL it means they care enough to be fit and healthy. if they care enough to do that theyre not depresed

A fit, healthy and non depressed person will have drive to dothings. theywill be improving all the time, withhobbies, interests and a complex life. Low status males assume chads never had to try to do anything and never worked on themselves.

CHads worked on themselves before it was too late. SO low status males who are age 18 or something, see chads who seemingly effortlessly have their life together, and assume its because they didnt have to try

No, its because they were busting their arse at 15 to develop. ITs not weakness to self improve. its just being late to the party. sure, you wont b as succesful than if your parents made you improove as a kid but you ca n still better yourself. theres nosuchth ing as a free lunch

depressed people spouting off the "Lol if I have to try I give up becauise theres people better than me so why bother" Nonsense are annoying and stupid
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>>61033539
^ this. Tl;dr: being a functional member of society makes you an attractive mate.

>>61033559
Dude... You need to get out more and stop playing armchair general from your mother's basmemet.

I'm 28 and regularly game with colleagues 15+ years older. It's a good fun bonding activity.

GER here but it was exactly the same for me back in the UK.

Seriously, when was the last time you spoke to a female IRL?
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Funny how this board became normalfag central.
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>>61033568
>Friends are just coworkers basically
Women have a very keen sense of assessing the social status of a potential mate. What most men also don't know is that even before the first date takes place, women often try to get information about you through their social circle. Men don't do that, if you like a girl you go straight at it, like a hunter shooting it's prey, men don't waste time asking their male friends about the girl they're about to meet, they don't try to look up any information on social media - but women do this, because they have to be naturally more carefully when it comes to choosing a mate.
It's hard to say what it is with you, but
>have a recessed mouthbreather jaw
Could also be the fact that you reek (justified or not) insecurity because of your looks, which in turn women can smell from 5 miles away.
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>>61033627
proud to have contributed to that shift.
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>>61033627
i've been on this board since 2008 and your incel faggotry is a relatively new phenomenon. you fags ruined the board with this shit. this board used to be full of OC and greentext stories, now you just whine like a fucking pussy. dumb new nigger
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>>61033627
Maybe enough of us just grew up enough and realised we could change our situation in life if we take risks and try new things...
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>>61033603
You're not a chad you're just acceptable and even then you are without a doubt superior to most men in something that nobody has any power over. How tall are you and what's your race?
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I have the answer. I can't be bothered typing it out in detail but it's basically that you're broken and can't talk with or value other humans appropriately. You don't know how to play the game and it's too late to learn the rules
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>>61033627
2016 definitely turned this website to shit, oldfags say it started even years earlier
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>>61033631
I have experienced how badly insecurity affects chances with women first hand

When Im drunk I get almost no girl attention. When I sniff cocaine or take mdma All I have to do is sit down in the corner of ac lub and girls will come sit down andtalk to me. Even when drunk and not saying anything I give off the 'dont approach me im abeta' vibes
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>>61033569
Chads are hilarious, me and my gf make fun of bulky dudes all the time. Literally unnecessary to be over a certain level of fitness when guns exist. I'm lean/fit, no more no less. Most "chads" are retards who go full strength build.
>hur dur the number on my weight is higher im the most wholesome king alpha chungus
They read whatever corporate self help is being pumped out by jordan Peterson or whatever flavour of the month meme is out, they watch marvel movies (or equivalent), they watch tv shows about 'badass' business people (idk like suits or something) and pretend it's them. They follow a sport so they have something to talk about at social events. Their opinions lack any depth or genuine insight, they listen to Joe Rogan religiously, they think everyone can be just like them and everyone should be just like them and they don't even have the introspection to ask if they're being excessive or if maybe there's something they could be doing differently. They think the stock market is good and that they're the first person to discover bitcoin. They unironically believe they can and should retire by the time they're 30. They wouldn't know what to do with 40+ years of retirement.

Chads are a pathetic laughing stock, generally turboautists that have terrible values and meaningless aspirations. If you've ever spoken to one, you realise how boring they are. They play it safe because they're not used to being wanted for more than their extremely generic sense of fashion and beliefs.
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>>61033217
are you retarded? none of those things have anything to do with social skills or relationships. you improved nothing.
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>>61033638
The incel documentary that spawned the super autist meme is from 2011, and the OC and green texts are gone because of normalfags like you.
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>>61033646
I Never said I Was a chad you dimwit. whats your reading comprehension? sounds like you didnt go to college
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>>61033217
>$20 000 in savings after working my ass off for the last 5 years
How does 5 years equal only $20000?
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>>61033631
>which in turn women can smell from 5 miles away.
But how come they can't smell those gigachads that will just pump and dump them???
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>>61033658
Your insecurity stinks to high heaven. Going to the gym doesnt mean being huge. Most fit guys I know you cant even tell theyre buff with a jacket on. I Never mentioned getting huge. thats just your broken i nsecurity

GEtting fit is lean muscle mass and low bodyfat and thats it. ALl the chads I know arent gym rats, theyre just healthy and living life.
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>>61033658
>Literally unnecessary to be over a certain level of fitness when guns exist.

Honestly one of the biggest turbo copes I've ever heard. One of the most autistic too.

>No point being healthy because le shooty pointy sticks.

IF you cant see the inherent value of being fit (Healthy, confident etc) then you are too far gone.
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>>61033217
the self improvement shit is cringe. developing a chad personality is your best bet if you're kinda scuffed looking. making girls laugh gets you pussy. you may not be slaying like you want, but hey, not everyone is meant to be a winner
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>>61033669
Spare me the strategic humility will you, I'm not going to fuck you. When you say chads need to self improve because you need to what the fuck else are you implying? And anyway chads really don't need to self improve at all, since the only things women actually care about you can't change. You never answered your heigh and race but I am assuming it's tall and white to make up for your average face that can't stand up to a little adipose.
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>>61033681
I started from a fat basement dweller who plays video games all day everyday who doesn't even have a bank account. I also never went to uni.

I like to think it is quite an accomplishment.
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>>61033697
Personality is an even bigger meme than working out, thinking personality matters is just a narcissistic flare up of your survivor bias.
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>>61033698
???

My point is that chads self improve. HOw in the hell have you deduced that I am a chad from that.

Its like one of them low IQ maths tests

>Some chads are self improovers
>ALl self improvers are trying
>Some chads are tryers

Are all self improovers chads?

You are literally autistic
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>>61033715
this. personality only matters after you turn 18 or 19. most of you should just go to the gym and work on your social skills.
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>>61033720
Well at least we know intelligence doesn't matter to women
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>>61033685
Uh huh, I'm just criticising an overidolised group of people. Never been to a gym in my life, never will go, prefer to just go for a jog in the morning to stay fit and get the fresh outdoors. Every chad I know goes to the gym regularly, talks about what they lift at least once in a conversation, and always relates the conversation back to their forever unchanging routine. All the chads I know are huge faggots who suck each other's skinny white pencildicks for the protein and post on reddit about how wholesome each other's loads are. Every chad I know uses reddit and has a Nintendo switch. They are the soi consoomer meme except they're based chad and have sex slightly more often than your soicel.
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>>61033734
intelligent men are too busy making billions of dollars to even talk to women like that.
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>>61033715
Okay sure I'll listen to a board of schizoid virgins. lol
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>>61033647
It's never too late anon. Don't give up on yourself
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>>61033739
>every chad I Know
Which is clearly zero

HIgh status men do everything losers do but better. its a cope to think that high status men 'chads' are air heads and inferior in the realm of intelligence... how autistic does that sound its absurd

if youre good looking and driven I'd put money on them being smarter than the average low status male
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>>61033751
Not all high status men are chads, and vice versa. You are confusing those two things. Chads are just physically attractive masculine men. I've known a lot of fucking lazy retarded Chads that got pussy, while I was breaking my back and getting nothing. Because of genetics.
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In the past if you were a low status male you could still get married and have a family, as society was structured to promote a peaceful and healthy relationship between men and women. Today, though, society is structured based on Darwinist protocols, such that if you are low status you are to be eliminated. You can be an edgy faggot and talk about how this is good, but it's going to eventually lead to total destabilization, as the men who are excluded no longer have any incentive to support the society and become radicalized.
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>>61033772
desu when I think of chad I think of the g uy thats a winner all the way through life, maybe im interpreting it wrong

it seems stupid to idolise chad if theyre washed up by age 30.
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maybe you shouldnt spent more time trying to talk to girls and less time focusing on how many days youve gone without jerking off
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>>61033772
It's super easy to blame genetics.

Because then it's not your fault you're pathetic and there's oh just nothing you can do about it at all REEEEEEE

Take some responsibility for your shitty life anon. You can get big if you put your mind to it, then ask a woman for help buying clothes to get a fashion sense then learn to make a girl laugh. That's like 6/10 points right there.

Don't put yourself down.
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>>61033638
greentexts are overrated and mostly boring I'm glad they're gone and faggots like you have to suffer their loss
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>>61033695
Yeah, you just need to be fit, like Seneca wrote, you don't need to dedicate your life to brandishing weights, just enough moderate exercise to keep the system healthy. Humans have three main advantages over every other animal

>intelligence
>social skills
>opposable thumbs

Intelligence and social skills are what you should prioritize. If you seek wisdom you basically develop these two things. Opposable thumbs are just there because we use tools far more effectively than any other animal. We are kinda big, but homosapiens outlived the neanderthaals so strength isn't as important a factor. Also martial arts exists too which makes big burly man muscles obsolete. Nice cope though
>I spent 10k hours lifting weights thinking it'll make girls like me
>now I'm qualified to work a manual labour job the rest of my life :DDD Ebin


>>61033751
wrong, most chads are 100IQ. They're normal. Smart enough to do "well", not smart enough to find the corporate rat race unfulfilling and yearn for something more. You've fallen into the trap of thinking money = success. A common mistake, but these "high status males" of whom you speak would make lousy friends. They'd step on you for a slight improvement on the social ladder.
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>>61033806
bro shut the fuck up you do not know me. stop speaking on me like you know me. fuck off. schizophrenia can not just be fixed. yes it is genetics.
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>>61033830
Normalfags are completely deluded by the "just world" fallacy. If anything bad happens to another person it's that person's fault because the world is inherently just and people get what they deserve. No point trying to reason with them.
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>>61033827
>but these "high status males" of whom you speak would make lousy friends. They'd step on you for a slight improvement on the social ladder.

Bollocks. I Know some very successful people that hang around with famous people everyone knows, including you. Despite their found success they have never dropped me, even when they far exceeded my status.
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>>61033751
>if youre good looking and driven I'd put money on them being smarter than the average low status male
Assuming society isn't corrupt and failing, which it is
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>>61033779
How could that even possibly be true?

There's more welfare, medicine, technology, fucking everything to keep people alive nowadays. You'd rather go back to the 50s and get fucking polio or smallpox?

"Darwinist protocols" - sounds like someone has spent too much time alone and inside anon.
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>>61033844
No point to having technology is your life is meaningless and all social foundations have been destroyed. Enjoy your plastic Chinese gadgets though.
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>>61033844
I'm frankly not sure how you could even dispute that this a fact. It's like you'll all sit there and talk about how low value males deserve to be removed the gene pool and then say, "No way we aren't trying to remove them from the gene pool!"
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>>61033217
work on your social skills and you'll be fine.
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>>61033840
Not what I'm trying to say at all here... But sure project your ideas instead of listening.

>>61033830
I actually have a friend that's schizo.... Pretty fun guy as long as he's on his meds.


None of this means that you can't find someone who will love you. You're not just a big walking diagnosis, you're a person with their own thoughts and feelings and shit.

What kinda stuff do you actually like?
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>>61033883
>But sure project your ideas instead of listening.
There's never been a moment when it was worth listening to what a normalfag says.
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>>61033850
You've gotta find meaning in your own life anon. Do you have any hobbies or stuff you're interested in?

>>61033865
Who is this magic "you all" supposed to be? No-one is out to get you, most people are just trying to do the best they can... Even if they're total fucking shitlords.
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>>61033898
>You've gotta find meaning in your own life anon.
You're doing the same thing here, though you don't realize it. The idea that you have to find your own meaning is a novel concept form existentialism, the goal of the ubermensch. People in the past did have to find a meaning, because society generally supplied this and they had stable social structures to fall back on. To the people who cannot instantiate a meaning of life, what do you say? Fuck them, I guess. We're all de facto eugenicists now.
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>>61033912
>>61033912
What exactly was the point of life before then? I don't really get your point...

All of this race-theory-genetics bullshit is just to keep the poors in line and bickering with each other. The rich fucks at the top are playing an entirely different game from the rest of us.

Do you ever look at fucking trump or that abercrombie and fitch ceo that said ugly people shouldn't wear their clothes? They're fucking disgusting fucks.

Even Bezos is fucking bald as a shiny rock.
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>>61033217
You're almost there nigger
Now ou need to make real friends that you can tell all your real desires and fears to
through friends you'll be able to meet women
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>>61033523
>t.armachir sociopath

kill yourself faggot lol
Anon is very much right,it's simply that utists don't get it because they are eaten alive by their fears
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>>61033960
*armchair
*autists
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>>61033841
yeah, and my dad works at nintendo lol
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If you are short it is over. If you have social problems or anxiety it is over until you get it sorted. If you are poor with no prospects then it is over too unless you are tall attractive. The shortness is the death sentence, other things can be improved a bit but it required a lot of work and you may not even succeed so choose if it is even worth it.
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biggest spook on this site is this idea that normies or chad somehow dont need to work ot try to get where they are in life. they absolutely do. i remember talking with an old friend who is pretty chad like. tall, muscular build, earning big bucks at a young age. not the greatest face or hair, but was confident and self-assured, so women always flocked to him. he told me that each day for him was a battle against the useless sack of shit inside him who just wanted to play video games and watch netflix all day. but every day he got up and went about his business, because he KNEW it was for the best. the ends were absolutely worth the trouble of struggling to get there.
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>>61034084
I call BS.

On shitty dating apps like tinder sure. But at conventions? Or other meetup places? There's tons of tiny gals who are otherwise intimidated by giant dudes.
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>>61033217
Start playing guitar and write songs inspired by your frustrations. I did exactly that and after a while a chick approached me at one of my shows telling me how awesome it was. We exchanged social media and after a while we started going out. It's been 7 months since then and i have never been happier.
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>>61033217
>Im doing better but I never broke through to blissful nirvana.
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Skinny pretty face blue eyed 185cm 20cm cock who basically never did any self improvement except being a pro in my field of work and had girls approach me and basically never had a week without sex for like 15 years going strong(mostly long term relationships, im a serial monogamist i guess, currently living with a comfy tomboy gym petite gf)

AMA
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>>61034008
Its funny that you think

>KNowing a guy who knows afamous guy

Is unbelievable. Did you know that you are about 7 of these away from knowing every si ngle person in theworld?

IF you "KNOW A guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy whoknows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy", thats enough to cover every single person in the world. anyone. 7 billion people

So to know a guy whoknows a guy whos very famous isnt that unbelievable. Youre just low IQ so itsounds impressive to you
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Same g, I got really close few times, but even when after we were making out and being cozy, they somehow still managed to discourage me with some bullshit like "we cant do this" or straight up pulling away... to which being an autist I am, i assumed that I've done something wrong and became afraid of them accusing me of rape... I've said "ok... I'll get going then"". 2 of them did message me the next day, but me I've assumed(again) that they were just gonna mock me, so I've never replied. After my "Date" experiences like this I just sort off accepted I am not cut out for intimacy, due to all that propaganda in my head. And being bullied and i mean bullied hard during my childhood I always feel guilt in my actions.
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>>61034373
When you're older and realise that you still feel unfulfilled, do you think not having tried to improve yourself for the past however many decades will have an impact compared to people who actually find what they like and feel all the better for it?
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>>61034177
>conventions
Have you ever been to a convention? It is 90% male and the girls that are there are just gfs that got brought along
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>>61034450
Well you are mistaking self improvement for having hobbies and interests.

I have a zillion hobbies and comfy activities:

>was a guitarist for a melodic death metal band with whom I had shows and fun parties and shit
>currently a vocalist for a grindcore band, I toured whole europe, best friends of my life love my buddies we are very close and hang out constantly with our gfs play boardgames and shoot shit
>make techno in ableton
>tfw no raving due to corona
>don't even do drugs just love the hype and dancing with frens and gf
>finished art school and do art constantly, sculpture and drawings
>work as a programmer in gamedev which is something i really like and is paid well
>drive my motorcycle in the summer
>tinker with arduino to make cool shit shine around the house
>play ps4 exclusives once in a while and mortal kombat with frens
>go to therapy to try to face my inner demons because I am a horrible human being deep inside
>volonteer in a local kitchen for homeless people as a grocery delivery guy
>prep comfy food to gf to watch series under the blanket
>go to a mountain with an /out/ friend and do shrooms and acid once a year
>visit sisters and their husbands and their kids and have fun with them
>visit parents in the countryside whenever I can

cont.
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>>61034550
I mean nothing there is self improvement, it's trying to make your life rich and fulfilled with experiences

I used to go to gym but i cba eat enough to make any gains so I dropped that, and I know I will suffer one day for back pains and shit because I didn't do self improvement, in that way.
I am fairly educated but not overly smart, but I don't even pretend that I am and like to listen to smart people speak, not being smart isn't the problem if you concede smartness to others, not being smart and silent is better than smart and obnoxious

Basically the only thing i will regret is not being good to my physical body.

Bottom line i believe that having a rich life full of experiences is a lot more important than some arbitrary improvement

It's about having fun and meeting fun people along the way, while trying to be kind to others and maybe one day have a child that you teach to be kind to people and environment as a leading example, that's the point of life.
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>>61033217
What country do you live in anon?
I'd be interested in currently going to college so I'm stuck in the states for a while if that's not an issue :)
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>>61034533
We... We apparently go to very different conventions then dude sorry.

Where I am it's more like a solid 60/40 split towards girls.

Im guessing it's different in the US?

>>61034427
Dude don't worry about it honestly. You should never feel bad for not raping someone.

A lot of girls are brought up and taught that desire of any kind is shameful and shouldn't be before marriage etc - they were in fact the ones feeling guilty about it, you didn't do anything wrong.

It's really hard to navigate through other people's issues but all you can really do is try not to give up unless they've made it clear they're not interested and just kinda be there and be open for them if you can.

Being afraid of being mocked or humiliated is... Unfortunately a natural part of the process. I can promise you that any decent girl is going to be feeling just the same way about being rejected... Or doing the wrong thing... Or being unlovable.

I think you're doing great anon, and I'm sure you'll get there eventually and at the end of the day it really doesn't fucking matter how long it takes - as long as its right for you.
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>>61033217
>wahhhhhh i have a perfect life but i still have no gf what the fuck is this world its a fucking joke god fucking damn itttttt
Jesus christ how can you be this petty
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self improvement on a genetically defective person AKA ugly ass mofo. is like polishing a turd.

by all means off yourself
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>>61034385
7 connections theory has never been proven. You're low IQ so you believe magic hand waving is impressive. It's really not that impressive to know someone who's famous, nor is it famous to know someone who's n times removed from someone famous. I'd also say it's not impressive to be someone famous most of the time. Fame is such a strange concept, and the internet exacerbates the problems associated with unequal distribution of attention. Everything ends up funnelling to a select few I guess, that's human nature.
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>>61034613
Thanks for the kind words g, I agree. I shall try again, the problem is all that happened a year ago, after 2 years of actually trying self improvement meme... even though I've felt better overall the lows used hit me harder than now... at least now I know it's my fault for being a lazy piece of shit, instead back then when itwas my fault being in the same place despite the fact that I lifted, read book, picked up instruments and written journals. I just felt truly betrayed and hopeless... as I knew I lost the bollock to do what I am designed to do, despite all though fake things that were supposed to reward me. I'll be fair, when I tried at least I had the will to fake out a charming personality, now even raising my voice is a chore
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>>61033217
>>$20 000 in savings after working my ass off for the last 5 years

Happy cuck slave.
20k in 5 years.
That's 10 bucks a day
Pathetic.
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>>61033741
You must be or very stupid or very ignorant of women for emitting such statements.
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>>61033706
idk what you earn or how much you spend but it must be little and much
In my eu country even with a dead end wage I could easily save 10k a year possibly alot more if I try harder and work more
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>>61033217
Kek I have 20000 in savings from sitting at home and buying a bit of crypto. Neet wins.
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>>61034992
It's okay anon. No matter how long it's been you'll be able to do better next time. Practice makes perfect.

You're going to make it. I believe in you :)
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>Putting in all this work to improve yourself just for a woman
You make me fucking sick. You don't deserve your success and I truly agree with you that you should quit and just kill yourself.
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>>61035082
>try to cash out
>my country want to see every transaction of crypto trades you have done and tax them
>want to tax when you cash out
>expect it to be alot less than 20k or even go in debt for life because you declared your trades wrong or whatever
yeah this country is shit but still
untaxed money in the bank > crypto of the same amount

not op btw



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