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Why have you not turned to Christ yet anon? You know He loves you and He died for you, and there are brethren who believe in Him out there which you could tie friendships with!

Read your Bibles and if you have any questions about Christ ask me!!
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>>61851427
because I enjoy being miserable and look forward to hell or whatever it is you get for being bad
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King James Version is a beautiful and pretty literal translation but it's not perfect and it also includes certain verses like the Johannine Comma which were not a part of the original. I'd suggest the NASB as the superior translation.
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>>61851427
>you have any questions about Christ ask me!!
Can jesus fly? Would he beat Superman in a fight?
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>>61851427
>He died, came back to life and went back to heaven where he's been for thousands of years while everyone on earth continues to unnecessarily suffer
>He loves you!
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I did and it's bullshit. All of it. Religion is fake. Also, Douay-Rheims >> NKJV > KJV

>>>/pol/
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>>61851427
Christ has not showed me the sort of paternalistic love he claims to show his followers. All he showed me was struggle, and a futile fight against inevitability. This is why I'm a Norse pagan.
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Because I hit rock bottom and it's not my fault god is evil.
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>>61851427
KJV is disproven by newfound early bible manuscripts which show that textus receptus is bad
and while there is value to critical bible research vulgate/douai-rheims still continues to be the best bible translation and it will continue to be for a long time as it looks to me
>>61851469
yes and he actually is prophesised to defeat the antichrist in an epic battle and the end of time
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>>61851471
Suffering is a consequence of sin. But despite never sinning, Jesus suffered worse than any of us.

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."

We are all sinners but the Father will forgive us anyway.
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how to take the cath christ pill anon?
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Wasnt the guys who killed Jesus jews?
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>>61851563
wait Superman is the antichrist? wack
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>>61851680
>Read the Bible

>Go to church

It's that simple
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DUDES AESTHETIC JESUS CROSS?
BASED IM CHRISTIAN NOW?
DEUS VULT!!!
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>>61851427
Because I deserve to go to Hell and I believe people should get what they deserve.
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>>61851460
>not a part of the original
Nice try shlomo. Take your textual criticism elsewhere.
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>>61851713
Having suffered more than any of us, Jesus loves you and doesn't want you to go to the fiery torture of hell.
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I would love to pretend that i believe in God but i cannot believe.
If there are people who actually geniuenly can believe in God in this day and age than i envy them.
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>>61851747
>Jesus loves you and doesn't want you to go to the fiery torture of hell.
What about in the last judgement when he decides which people will be condemned to hell?
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>>61851446
You don't man, that's self-loath, that's the devil, don't fall into his traps.
>>61851460
I think that's a divinely inspired passage proving the Trinity fully, the NASV removes, changes and adds too much stuff
>>61851469
Yes. Though these questions have no point
>>61851471
Satan rules this earth, that's why we have libtards, gays, trannies, mass immigration and way worse, combating that is turning to the truthful doctrine of the Lord
>>61851479
/pol/ is a mess, people come and go there, /r9k/ is mostly stable and needs to hear, also DR and NKJV suck
>>61851520
What has Odin showed you?
>>61851542
Give Him a try and He will give you eternity
>>61851563
I don't trust those manuscripts a lot, I think the KJV is divinely inspired and preserved by the Lord Himself
>>61851633
Not unless you believe in His Son
>>61851680
Catholics are against the Bible and the true doctrine of Christ
>>61851688
Yes, and Jesus said that His blood shall be upon them and their children, at which the jews agreed
>>61851701
Glad I got your interest up anon, makes for a good wallpaper
>>61851713
We have all come short of the glory of God and deserve hell, that's why Christ came for us, silly!
>>61851725
This
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>>61851763
Your ancestors for the past 1500-2000 years all believed. The zeitgeist has broken you down but if you open your heart and reject the demons of the modern world you'll never again be without him.
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>>61851805
>Catholics are against the Bible and the true doctrine of Christ
explain in detail, i went to protestant school, fuck them
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>>61851747
Yep that's why He came and died for us, now it's up to each and every one of us to accept or reject Him.
>>61851789
That's the last judgement, based on everybody's choice as I mentioned up here!
>>61851763
We all struggle with faith, but it comes gradually! Take a leap of faith!
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>>61851789
Jesus will testify for all those that believe in him and his sacrifice. For those that believe in him, Jesus has already paid for your sins.

>>61851805
>Not unless you believe in His Son
Yes that is the point.
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>>61851805
>DR and NKJV suck
Hah, okay Jew.
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>>61851814
That's bullshit and I'm not even a Catholic.
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>>61851842
>Jesus will testify for all those that believe in him and his sacrifice
But if he calls everyone before him, how could there be anyone who doesnt believe? You would literally be in the presence of God. Why is it even a question of belief at that point? Shouldnt everyone be saved then?
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>>61851814
Where did I say protestants have it all right? I think Baptists have it the best but even then it differs from region to region as it's not a centralized church. Catholics have weird traditions not mentioned in Scripture, create idols, pray to idols, put traditions way above Scripture, think a mere man can forgive their sins or clean them, only GOD can no other priest, which you also call father btw. Where's the papal authority in the Bible? Where are the fish shaped hats?
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>>61851633
No way Jesus suffered more than Junko Furuta.
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>>61851878
I can't attest for the sciptural answer to this, but I believe the idea is that by that time it would be too late. You can't get a plea bargain when you're stood in front of the judge for sentencing
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>>61851845
Even if modern versions praise the sin of Israel in certain verses from the Prophets of the OT? Be honest, KJV is the only good version to read in English
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>>61851878
They will "believe" out of fear of not getting killed or such, not that they LOVE and THANK CHRIST which is the actual point of faith
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>>61851885
He did bear the sin of billions of people on His shoulders, Junko might've had it rough but Jesus had it the worst
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>>61851879
Sola scriptura is GAY. What were the first Christians doing for centuries before a concrete set of scriptures were put together? There's gotta be some tradition. Kikes and muzzies have wardrobes, hats and fancy decorations. Why not Christcucks? Why make it so hard on yourself since Martin Luther?
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>>61851996
Tradition was invented, the Apostles shown in Acts didn't practice any of those weird useless even heretical traditions, no mentions of icons, monks or whatever else. Read the Bible
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>>61851427
I'm not religious because I haven't seen convincing proof of a god. I want to believe in something to have a purpose, and a community. But I can't suddenly begin believing in something I haven't ever witnessed. How do I get past this??
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talking to protestants is honestly like talking to sunni muslims
no matter what kind of argument you make they will just say its made up by ebil atheists and cathlicks
pidgeon shitting on chessboard, throwing over all the figures and delaring victory tier
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>>61852022
And no mention of the Star of David (possibly Remphan) and now look at you guys. What a pity.
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>>61852077
>I'm not religious because I haven't seen convincing proof of a god.
This is an understandable position to hold, but ultimately, there cannot be a "convincing proof of God" in a modern sense.

The Father is a supernatural being that exists outside the confines of our physical reality, and Jesus died 2000 years ago. Nobody can show you pictures of Jesus or do an experiment to prove the existence of God.

The foundational belief of all religion is faith. To have faith you must believe what your eyes and ears cannot perceive. Through all of human history people have been capable of faith, even today. Opening your heart to Christ is the ultimate act of faith.
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>>61852077
That's why it's named faith, you believe without Truth, that's what Paul the apostle says, and even so most scholars atheist or Christian agree that Isaiah with all its prophecies about Jesus (Check Isaiah 53 for example or 9) was written in the 8th to 7th century BC. JESUS IS REAL KING SAVIOR AND GOD
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>>61852134
I mean Proof instead of Truth. But yeah Paul says that, blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe
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>>61851427
i recently started reading the bible due to some crucial events going on in my life and i was a skeptic nihilist retarded smartass motherfucker before and now my soul is getting in peace and my heart sometimes gets full of joy and happiness that i don't know where it comes from. Im not even kidding
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>>61852077
have you ever prayed when you were in a difficult situation or struggling with some shit? Where does that urge comes from?

Congratulations, if you do that, you are fortunate enough to be blessed with the divine grace..
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>>61851427
>Why have you not turned to Christ yet anon?
because i like masturbating to farting deer way too much.
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>>61851996
exactly, protestantism makes no sense
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>>61851427
What do you know of Christ? What do you really know? Listen OP, if you're still there, if you want to know about Christ, you need to talk to me. Salvation is a lie.
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Salvation through love of Christ is nothing more than extortion as long as Hell exists. Change my mind. You can't genuinely love someone if you know that if you don't you'll be damned.
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Nice dead thread useless christians, nice to know youre reliable
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Make 2021 the year you put on the full armour of God.
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>>61853698
Hurrr mr christian, theres a cunt literally asking for you people to help him but unsurprisingly you ignore them. Fuck you
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>>61853488
If you tell somebody that if they walk into a burning house they will die, but give them a free offer to drive them to your house where it is safe, it is THAT person choosing to enter the burning house.
God isn't sending you to Hell, you are sending yourself there by rejecting a FREE offer of salvation that requires nothing from you except faith and accepting the offer.
The thing is, those truly worthy of Hell won't be able to find it in their heart to accept Christ.
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>>61853730
What do you mean? I just joined the thread.
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>>61851427
i try and pray to god every night, but i never seem to get any answer. i'm still holding on to faith, but what could i be doing wrong?
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>>61851427
KJV niggers be like
>Of course unicorns existed back then. Trust this random translation more than your own sense of logic.
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>>61851427
HI, yes, I'd like to question who the fuck thinks a random Jewish carpenter has the power to manifest enough bread and fish to feed five thousand folks.

Like, if I told you Tony Hawk did the same thing , you'd tell me I'm insane.
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>>61851805
The devil has no power over us. Evil is man-made. We sin by choice.
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>>61853951
>HI, yes, I'd like to question who the fuck thinks a random Jewish carpenter has the power to manifest enough bread and fish to feed five thousand folks.

different historiographic sources,
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>>61853750
I believe in Christ, i've accepted him. a bunch of times now. i've prayed to god and he's answered me. but you know? i love sinning so damn much and i cant resist it and i dont even want to.

Sorry but if i'm saved based on that then goddamn.
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WHY, WHENEVER SOME WRETCHED MOTHERFUCKER APPEARS IN YOUR GODFUCKING CHRISTIAN THREADS CRYING OUT FOR THE SOOTHING FORGIVENESS OF YOUR GOD

DO YOU WITHOUT FAIL EVERY TIME COMPLETELY GLOSS OVER AND IGNORE THE POOR LOST CUNT?

WITHOUT FAIL AND FOR YEARS YOU'VE DONE THIS.

I DO NOT ENJOY SUFFERING YOU KNOW. JESUS IS THE WAY OUT, SO SHOW ME THE WAY! BUT YOU DON'T. TIME AND AGAIN YOU JUST FUCKING PASS BY.
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>>61854049
The Bible says if you love sin and love the world, you hate God. If you truly loved God then you would do your best to avoid sin.
Sin isn't worth it, anon. The Bible also says any time you are tempted to sin, God offers you an easy escape route that is impossible to miss.
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>>61851427
Because LARPING is for weak men, you believe or you don't. And i'm sure not believing the anglo saxon 20th re-edition politically chosen texts by 300 or something bearded larpers 1700 years ago
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>>61854197
The Bible can say what it likes. I know what I've seen, what I've felt. I've felt the Holy Spirit. I'm so unworthy. I like how you instantly assume "doing your best to avoid sin" equals "successfully avoiding sin." Check your arrogance there, I suggest. Ones best isn't always enough, and what then? I'm not arguing with you, you understand. Please, if you are serious, see my sincerity. God made all this, and I want to be good, but I can't ignore my nature.
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>>61851810
>believe in god =/= believing in the political driven codex that's the bible

nigga my ancestors 1600 year ago still believed in fucking Neptune
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>>61854254
Neptune is a planet. Neptune exists.
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>>61854263
I clearly meant poseidon, but since my ancestors are all mostly italics they most likely believed in neptune, at least one of them had to be a fisherman at some point.
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>>61854288
you have a clear lack of interest in converting others
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>>61851747
What Jesus wants is irrelevant. I want the guilty to be punished. All of them, including me. That's justice.
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>>61854310
Now you seem to have a mind. Ignore me too?
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>>61854295
If truth was attainable for men conversion would be unthinkable, for it would be self evident.

Since it's not self evident, Larpers will try to convert you to their brand of truth (tm). All preachers are false and all texts are tainted, for they operate with monkey brains.

The divine , the primal mover, god all creator exist, just not from a perverted piece of paper. I choose to believe, but it's not self evident and any conversion is ill made, for holiness comes from within, as we are of his image.
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>>61854344
>as we are of his image.
forgot to quote, it's not mean to be taken literally, it mean "of the same substance", from dust to dust.
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>>61854344
then what, excuse me, the hell. is the point of you saying this
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>>61854365
I have no interest in convert others, you pointed i had but i don't believe jewish fairy tales and sure as hell don't want others to follow blindly.

The religion of my forefathers is NOT only abrahism
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>>61854235
Yes you can. Christ said if you want to follow him, you must deny yourself and take up your "personal cross."
It's hard to deny yourself. It's hard to avoid porn, masturbation, fornication, drinking too much alcohol in one sitting, hatred for your neighbor, etc.
But it is possible and through Christ it will happen.
I myself haven't masturbated in so long I can't remember when the last time I did it was.
I was a fornicator in the past, and I also broke free from that sin. I deleted and blocked all the girls in my phone who I have had sex with.
I like to drink, as does Christ and the apostles, but I never drink too much, and when I drink I praise the Lord and thank him for giving me a blessing that lightens my heavy heart.
I have nothing but love and hope for you please don't assume I'm being "holier than thou," because we are all equal in the eyes of God. Nobody is perfect except Christ. When a Christian tells you something you're doing is wrong, they do it out of love because they want you to stay on the righteous path and to join them in the kingdom.
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>>61854452
I mean it's real nice coming from where you are, having overcome all that. I hope you remember what it's like to be human. I mean, do you want to talk one on one? They never do. Like I'm really interested and have personal reasons to be interested but nobody ever wants to actually sit down one on one with me.
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>>61854452
All this cope because you can't get laid.

This is why larping is so so sad, it's not done in good faith.
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>>61854532
I'm an ex-sex addict.
You may have seen pic related before since it went viral, but this is my picture. The girl was named Sarah and I met her on Tinder.
She was basically my sex doll for over a year, whenever I wanted I could just text her and be able to have sex whenever I wanted.
I also had a few other FWBs, and since I used tinder I was able to meet 2-3 new girls every week for cheap sinful sex.
When I was at a point in my life where I was having sex 3-5 times a week with hot girls, I was at my lowest point. I wasn't happy, I wasn't fulfilled, I was just numb and spiraling downwards.
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I AM FUCKING BEGGING YOU CUNTS. I AM ENTIRELY SINCERE. CUNTS. TALK TO ME, LISTEN TO ME, HEAR ME, HELP ME, I AM ASKING FOR YOUR FUCKING HELP FOR FUCKS SAKE. WILL NONE OF YOU OFFER YOUR HELP FFS I AM SO SICK OF THIS SILENCE THE CONSTANT NOTHINGNESS.
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>>61854733
What's wrong anon? What do you need?
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>>61854705
Sorry i don't lurk reddit
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I fell in love with an orthodox christian and her family is rejecting me for being catholic because they think im going to divorce her eventually. Im going to convert for her, any advices?
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>>61854845
After you do that and marry her, become a KJV-only Independent Fundamental Baptist and convert her too.
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>>61854874
will see, i just want to proof to her family that im not planning or even counting divorce as a possibility so they can trust their daughter's choice
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In a biblical sense, how am I to handle being ghosted by someone? I've been talking to this person since 2016 off and on. They've ultimately blocked me from social media at the end of March 2020 without warning. Still cuts like a knife. Not sure how to handle the misery without silently suffering and still feeling ultimately down and out about this at random intervals of the week.

This person said that they were about to be homeless in March due to pandemic crisis and job loss. But why block me from Whatsapp of all places? Not sure if this person was lying about homelessness, but I still feel incomplete and angered by the lack of closure if she did end this relationship back in March.

I just feel so stupid for even getting involved with this person. I had no intention of hurting them. But they brought this misery upon me and it is quite a heavy load to bare at times. Like, my emotions are dead because of this person. Falling in love seems out of the picture for a very long time.
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>>61854769
Seeing as you're the only one who replied, it would seem that I need you.

What I do need is a sincere christian who cares about people and wants them to be saved.
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>>61854963
Maybe don't ghost people ten minutes after you add them? You reap what you sow.
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>>61854733
What's going on? Please if you just swear and mock for the sake of it I don't think it's quite funny to anybody, if you're asking for the basics which you may not know for coming to faith and salvation you have to repent - thus changing your nature to accept God and His Commandments ultimately you'll have to believe in His Son Jesus Christ who The Father said to die for us. You can do that by reading one of the Gospels or better yet the Bible as a whole but give John or Matthew a read first then do Genesis and the rest of the OT while also reading NT. (Old and New Testaments)
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>>61855000
I want your company. Do you really think i'm laughing or mocking anything? Really?
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>>61855010
I am convinced that you're not now, I apologize for making reckless assumptions, if you're willing to hear I am more than open to share all about Christ that can be found in the Scriptures with you. I am OP by the way, as I mentioned above if you desire to hold a conversation and ask further questions you can add me on discord, which I solely use to talk to 1 more believer, my username is Walter#1712
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>>61854987
That I am. Please watch this video. The pastor does a wonderful job at explaining the Bible way to Heaven and you won't be disappointed.

https://youtu.be/EZBIn0QCEpE
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>>61854996


......sigh. Try reading the entire post before replying next time. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>61854962
That's why you convert to Orthodox first to get them to think that. After you two are married, they have no say in the matter.
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1. I never asked anyone to die for me so using it against me is sheer emotional manipulation

2. There is no god, heaven, hell, devil or whatsayyou. You have zero imperical evidence to prove any claim that you can make.

3. God doesn't deserve worship if he was real. He refuses to sort shit out when we need him.

When we die,all sinapsis in our brain die out. That means if heaven or hell do exist, we would never get a chance to experience it.
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>>61855040
You think that could work for them anon? They are the typical conservative orthodox family, they are worried because my family is Catholic and my parents are divorced, they will appreciate that I converted for her?
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>>61855183
I think so. Make sure to dump that false religion a little while into the marriage and become an KJV only Independent Fundamental Baptist though. Get her on board with it too.
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why not honour nature and learn from your ancestors?
>the earth is your friend!
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>>61855202
Thank you anon, you bring me hope
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>>61855202
I am OP, we share the same beliefs it seems, interested in talking more?
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>>61854705
This picked my interest. May I ask how old are you OP?
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how does one accept god anons?
>inb4 read the bible
>inb4 read the new testament
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>>61854340
I've been checking the thread periodically, not ignoring anyone.
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>>61855670
Give me your discord. I know things.
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>>61851980
>but Jesus had it the worst
He's a bitch.
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>>61855678
I don't use Discord, or really much social media at all. Kind offer, though.
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Explain please I am really curious .
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>>61851427
can i be a trap/someones bf but still become christian?
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>>61856155
>kill gays
holy based
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>>61856205
No, you can't be a faggot and a Christian at the same time
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>>61856155
Talk about taking out of context, read your Bible for once
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>>61856251
im not talking about like having sex or doing sexual stuff i just want to be like a housewife if that makes sense

is that still not okay?
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>>61856155
Almost all of that is the Old Testament, which Jesus said man was no longer bound by on his coming.
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>>61856378
God loves all his children that love Him and bring glory to his kingdom. First, do you even love Him? Are you wanting to be a housewife because it tickles your dopamine receptors? Or is there a gay man that's about to develop the cure for cancer and give it away freely to the people, but needs the support of 1 loving housewife (male)?
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>>61851427
I like alot of the moral values that christianity brought to europe and the world but I don't believe in anything supernatural.
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>>61856686
have faith faithcel
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>>61856593
i dont think its about me feeling good, i dont have a bf yet but the thing that makes me the most happy thinking about is trying to make eachother the best ppl we can be and supporting him to do great things
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>>61856703
I need evidence to trust in something.
And even the people who believe in god can't agree which doctrine is the right one.
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>>61856815
Hi there, reasonable Anon, nice to see one of you every now and then.
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The amount of hubris required to 100% believe that out of literally thousands religions that have existed yours is totally the right one is beyond my comprehension.
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>>61851427
Sorry I don't believe in Christianity
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Avoid the modern translations, the Greek text used in the modern bibles was written by unironic and unashamed occultists/new age spiritualists (whose names are Westcott and Hort). They were not Christians and denied the blood atonement of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection for mankind, and they also are keen on demoting Jesus Christ's deity as much as possible (they don't think he is the prophesied messiah or God/Yahweh). Roman Catholic doctrine is enforced also where it wasn't originally in the text. Futhermore, the manuscripts they use are from Alexandria, where the same occult heresies were extremely popular, located in Egypt where also the Bible calls that land the House of Bondage, and God tells Israel to come out of it (Exodus 13:3 KJV). These people are freemasons/jesuits and they hate Jesus Christ as God over all. You wouldn't expect Satan to sit around doing nothing and not make counterfeit Bibles. If you believe that God does exist and does preserve his Word, then the whole argument of "oldest and best manuscripts" goes out the window, since God doesn't need to rely on manuscripts found in a rubbish heap in the 1800s or one buried and rejected in the Vatican library (Sinaiticus and Vaticanus respectively). Man's pride and wisdom says that the "oldest is best", not God's wisdom.
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>>61857784
The best New Testament manuscripts which make up the massive amount of Majority Text manuscripts came from Antioch, where the disciples were first called Christians (Acts 11:25-26 KJV). Only classic Bibles like the KJV use these manuscripts. Erasmus had rejected Codex Vaticanus as highly corrupted and of no use when he read it, but all modern Bibles use it. They also make new Bibles for money and can only secure a copyright if they can change enough words from the KJV and other translations, leading to unnecessary changes to the detriment of the reader and the overcomplicating of words by increasing syllable count. They are not just 'updating the old English', although they would love for you to think that. The translation teams of modern Bibles generally do not believe in the Bible fully (2 Timothy 3:1-9,13 KJV) or are highly liberal and support ecumenicalism (one-world religion like in Genesis 11 and Revelation, Satan's chief goal), and the politics of today's society (LGBT rights, feminism, political correctness) impact their translation decisions in order to sell more copies by being more inclusive. There will usually be non-Christians on the committees who help translate. If you are making your Bible conform to the world (which Satan owns) and submitting to it, then you are not standing for God's Word and you value this sinful world more than God. God's Word is eternal, while this world is not (Matthew 24:35 KJV), and the opinions of its people are changing constantly without rest.

Examples here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqBEuxGY7DI
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>>61857784
>>61857797
Some of Westcott's and Hort's statements which reflect their own changes to the modern Bible text:

>"I agree with them in condemning many leading specific doctrines of popular theology [...] especially the authority of the Bible."
>"The fact is, I do not see how God's justice can be satisfied without every man's suffering in his own person the full penalty for his sins."
>"I never read an account of a miracle, but I seem instinctively to feel its improbability..."
>"Mary-Worship and Jesus-Worship have very much in common"
>"I am not able to go so far as you in asserting the absolute infallibility the canonical writing"
>"I reject the word Infallibility [...] of Holy Scripture overwhelmingly"
>"I [...] cannot say that I see much as yet to soften my deep hatred of democracy in all its forms"
>"I suppose I am a Communist by nature"
(Source: https://www.billkochman.com/Articles-Non-BBB/textused.html)

According to Paul, deceivers were already corrupting the word of God and forging false epistles that appeared to be God's Word at first glance. Genesis 3, John 12:3 and, 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV show that Satan is the god of this world and that the whole world is fallen under sin. Matthew 4:8-10 and Luke 4:5-8 KJV show that Satan owns all of the kingdoms of the world and he can give them to whoever worships him. There is therefore no reason to think that counterfeit Bibles are not being made today:

2 Corinthians 2:17 KJV
>For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:2 KJV
>that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
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>>61857784
>>61857797
>>61857809
Mark 7:19 KJV:
>because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Mark 7:19 NRSV:
>since it enters, not the heart but the stomach, and goes out into the sewer?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)

What Jesus is saying is vitally important to understand because all translations, except the King James Version, state in 7:19 that Jesus had declared all foods clean (The New King James Version says this in a footnote, not in the text.) Jesus said in Matthew 5:19 that anyone teaching contrary to God's law will be least in God's kingdom. If Jesus did this, as all modern translations claim He did in Mark 7:19, Jesus is not God, which means He could not save us from our sins, our faith is in vain, and all mankind will end up in the lake of fire. Therefore, on the basis of this point alone, all modern translations should be rejected. Jesus' disciples did not understand the parable. It had to be explained to them. All modern translators also do not understand the parable, even with the explanation being in the text in 7:18-23!
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>>61857784
Where can we find the most truthful and incorrupt translations of the Bible?
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>>61857886
>Where can we find the most truthful and incorrupt translations of the Bible?

Anything that is not Alexandrian based is probably the best choice. All classic Bibles. I don't know any modern Bibles that don't use Alexandrian manuscripts. The New King James is insufficient and borrows from them and has occult influence in its rendering of verses.
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>>61856155
Romans 6:14-15 KJV:
>For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

>What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
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>>61854963
Reading and believing Paul's Epistles will give you hope. In the King James Version.
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>>61857797
>>61857809
>>61857819
>>61857937
Thank you for expanding on this, the KJV is the best and most reliable version, it's also delightful to read through it, it's the only version I'm comfortable with and the one I used to come to faith
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ69uHxXwkk&t=1980

Luke Kendrat is /OUR GUY/
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>>61851427
I tried to read the whole bible once, got bored about two thirds the way through Genesis and never read it since.
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>>61851427
>Someone that isn't here for you anymore claims to love you but only if you do x.

Perfect for robots.
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>>61851427
No I won't read a KJV Bible. KJV is a protestant Bible that's missing 6 books from the old testament. You're going to hell

t. Catholic

PS: there is no pope. I'm a sedevacantist.
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>>61859136
>"""claims""" to love you
>"""claims"""
everything good and noble in you was created by him. and everything he wants you to do is above all good for yourself.
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>>61859129
Based tripfag, same here. Stopped somewhere after Noah's Ark last year and haven't picked it up since.
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>>61859146
>No I won't read a KJV Bible. KJV is a protestant Bible that's missing 6 books from the old testament. You're going to hell

>For almsgiving saves from death and purges away every sin. Those who give alms will enjoy a full life (Tobit 12:9).

This verse is wrong and contradicts the Bible, men are only saved and have their sins forgiven by believing the gospel. Almsgiving has nothing to do with salvation, else Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates would be heaven's shining pupils. Your sins can only be forgiven and purged by believing in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Ephesians 1:7, 2:8-10 KJV) thanks to Christ's sinless blood being shed for you.

Since Christ's sacrifice on the cross covers all sins under the law, even murder and adultery are forgiven, as demonstrated by David (2 Samuel 11:3-4,14-17; Psalm 51, 32; Romans 4:6-10 KJV).

God judges you in one of two ways. Either you declare yourself to be righteous, and God judges your righteousness as filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6 KJV) and casts you into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15 KJV). Or, you ask God for mercy because you recognize you are ungodly, and God justifies you and gives you the free gift of eternal life. This is summed up in Luke 18:10-14 KJV.

God can only be pleased by faith (Hebrews 11:6 KJV).

>You're going to hell

>t. Catholic

Then you probably don't even know if your works are good enough to make it to heaven. You have no right to judge other's eternal security if you aren't even sealed with the holy spirit to the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:12-14, 4:30 KJV).
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>>61859146
Babylon as the Catholic Church

"Infants are baptized for the forgiveness of sins" spoken around 235 AD. Made official by the Council of Carthage in 252 AD. Baptism can only be done by a priest, because he sanctifies the water by prayer (holy water).

Once water saves you, it was only good for past sins. Brings about no eternal security and the doctrine of penance.

By 300 AD, salvation by works after being sprinkled by water, transubstantiation. Infants must be baptized in water, everyone may eventually be saved after purgatory, there is no literal heaven or hell.

Constantine's "conversion" in 312 AD.

312 AD - Prayers for the dead & the sign of the cross were orthodox.

320 AD - Candles used in services

After 325 AD, anyone not following church councils was subject to state action.

375 AD - Worship of angels & saints, replacing Greek & Roman gods.

394 AD - Mass was a celebration of Christ's death, rather than a memorial.

In 410 AD, the Roman Empire fell to the Vandals. Christians were not patriotic enough, and the Christian God had failed to protect Rome. Augustine began writing The City of God in 413, and it was published in 426. He believed the Catholic Church was the Kingdom of God, predestinated to conquer the world with infant baptism. This would bring about the City of Heaven, while those not part of the church would be part of the City of the World, i.e., they have eternal damnation. In the book, Augustine says the second coming of Christ occurs one piece at a time.

"Many passages I omit, because, though they seem to refer to the last judgment, yet on a closer examination they are found to be ambiguous, or to allude rather to some other event - whether to that coming of the Saviour which continually occurs in His Church, that is, in His members, in which comes little by little, and piece by piece, since the whole Church is His body, or to the destruction of the earthly Jerusalem." (City of God, Book XX).
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>>61859146
>>61860029
In 413 AD, Roman emperor Theodosius II declared that any church leader refusing to sprinkle babies was subject to death.

431 AD - Council of Ephesus declares worship of Mary is NT Biblical Christianity.

596 AD - Clergy dress differently from laity.

611 AD - Pope title added (I Timothy 6:15).

709 AD - Christians should kiss the Pope's feet.

Charlemagne was the Constantine of the eight century. He conducted more than 50 military campaigns to bring in the kingdom of God.

Under Constantine, the Pope was the archbishop. Under Charlemagne, he was God in the flesh.

788 AD - Crosses and images become objects of worship, rather than aids in worship.

800 AD estalibhsed a Roman Catholic pope as the supreme political ruler over the nations of Europe, and you were subject to military action if you did not submit to the authority of the pope.

956 AD - Pope John XIII starts baptizing bells. (Church bells made holy with water by priest.)

1000 AD - Fasting on Fridays and observing Lent begins. You must go mass. Every Bible believer in Europe was in danger of death if he disputed against a Catholic bishop.

Eight major "Christian" crusades - 1096 to 1291.
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>>61851427
Christianity is for cowards and kike lovers
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>>61851427
Daily dose of kike propaganda.Thx no
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>>61856155
Gentiles are not bound by the Mosaic covenant, only the Noahaic covenant.
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>>61851427
The age of Christ is over. The new aeon is upon us.
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whats the difference between catholic and orthodox christbros?
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>>61851427
> You know He loves
no he doesn't he died 2000 years ago
> He died for you,
no, he died because the Romans and high elders got sick of his shit
> and there are brethren who believe in Him out there which you could tie friendships
they are no brethren of mine
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>>61851427
>Why have you not turned to Christ yet anon?
I'm a baptized orthodox christian turned agnostic, leaning towards atheism.
The piece of shit let my dad die and gave my gramps cancer.
If god exists - fuck him.
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I am more of Douay-Rheims guy myself, sorry English lad.
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>>61851427
God bless you anon, keep up the good work and dont be tempted by the degenerate thots and femoids.
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>>61861376
B..bu...but Anon its just a test bro
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>>61851698
... and take Christ as your lord and saviour. Ask for forgiveness and repent when you sin.
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Hi anon and thank you for being so based on this board of filth.
I converted a few months ago after reading the Bible and going to church and I am now much more content with this world.
Would I get closer to God by doing nofap? I've been doing it for 17 days now and I hope he'd be proud of me for it.
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>>61852565
God bless you anon. May you experience more love and grace from Christ. Keep up the good work anon, dont feel guilty when you fall to sin. Get up, repent and keep going.



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