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>Sat in my room and played video games from 20 to 27
>Instead of making friends, having relationships, getting a career
>Lost interest in games now and filled with regret
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yep.

that sounds logical.
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>>64096601
yea, unfortunately this will happen to most robots
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>>64096601
Same, desu.
No interest in vidya anymore, but I picked up programming to try and make it more fun.

Give it a shot, anon - make a bot or two to make games less slavery and it might make games fun again for you like it did me.
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>>64096617
holy fuck, how fucking stupid are you guys??

waste it on vidy games?? mega retard
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>>64096601
ive done the same anon but my kraut buddy has pulled me out of that pit. its never too late to turn your life around. go out and find something you're interested in, look for others who are also interested in it and ask around if theres any social clubs around it. for me its fishing and I used to always fish alone, then I discovered that my home town has an anglers club thats free to the public so thats a nice opportunity to socialise. find something like that man, you can do it.
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>>64096601
Made the same mistake, spent all of my teen years and early 20s addicted to vidya. Finally burnt out about two years ago. It felt like coming out of the matrix after being completely isolated for over 10 years. Been slowly rebuilding my life over the last two years.

It's gotten to the point where I don't know what to do with my life. I spend most of my day watching other people play vidya on YouTube since I can't bring myself to play anymore. I want to live irl, but I missed everything so I don't even know where to start. The last time I had a consistent friend group irl was when I was a pre-teen. I feel like I missed every meaningful milestone and learning experience along the path to being an adult. Sure I have a degree, I know some stuff about finance, but in terms of social stuff I'm completely clueless. I feel like a literal child when it comes to social relationships.
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>>64096631
ok bud, it's time to go to school
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thank you 4 makeing me feel better i spent my teenage years doing the same thing but im 19 now and i have started going to the gym and makeing friends irl. At least i will never be a almost 30 year old loser even though im years behind my friends
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>>64096601
i get this but on a longer time frame. why dont all my freinds like vidya as much as i do? why are they abadoning vidya for girls? sure they smell and taste nice, but wheres the fucking story? fuck this ima go play vidya.
ive done this consistantly since i was about 14, im 28, all my freinds are trying hard to do this shit. i sit back and read a book and play some vidya and ask why?
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>>64096601
Lol, I did it from 8 to 20, anime, manga, video games etc. But it was worth it, I had a great time
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>>64096601
>30 soon
>still playing and enjoying
>vidya is actually the main reason I didn't off myself yet
Not like I could live a normie life anyway, got a job I hate but it fully satisfies me financially.
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That's me 18 to 30 missing out everything you can imagine. No regrets. Fully comfortable and committed to lollygag. No responsibilities. Modern hermit neet royalty never lifting a finger or wanting for a thing
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this happened to me but age 20-26
holy fuck im an idiot and i never got a job in that time either
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>>64096930
>>64096904
>>64096740
its never too late to turn your life around lads, you dont gotta quit vidya games and such just have a healthy balance, force yourself to get out there and talk to folks, you can do it lads
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>>64096953
ive already quit videogames. now ive fallen into sleeping for 11+ hours a day and doing nothing else. ive been doing that for about 2 years. i need to get out of here lole
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>>64096601
I dont even enjoy games im just disabled and had no choice
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>>64097004
you dont need to quit video games, thats not a good fix. games are good for you in healthy doses, just dont let it overtake your life. enjoy playing games man, just limit yourself so you dont burn out and make sure that you get out there to give yourself more ways to enjoy life
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>>64097005
im disabled too man, both physically and mentally. dont let it stop you, you're a lot tougher than you give yourself credit for. even if you fail, celebrate that you made and attempt and try again.
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>>64096953
Ok I'll ask this girl out who I've been crushing on. At this point i don't give a fuck if she accepts or rejects me I just want the thrill of the chase. I haven't felt anything in so long.
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>>64096837
I literally said the same thing to a almost 30 year old in a dota channel when i was 19
and now i am him
It will happen to you.
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>>64097099
just dont be too aggressive with it, if she says no then accept that and ask her about it, take what she says into account and see if you can work it into your life. and most importantly make sure that shes not just some complete stranger, actually get to know her first man. good luck anon
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We were tricked into thinking real life was gay
Now we will pay the ultimate price
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>>64096953
If I quit viya, i quit living . No hope here, no good women, no good jobs, no opportunity to move out.
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>>64097045
i didnt quit them on puprose ive just lost interest in them. ive lost interest in everything actually
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>>64097175
as i said, you dont have to quit video games, just do other things too, go out and take a walk or go to the park every now and then. anything is better than nothing
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>>64097220
Same. Amazon fresh delivers food right to your door. You should try that. I ate three cakes in the last three days. Yummy yummy snacky snacky.
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>>64097220
apathy is a common symptom of depression. you gotta try to force yourself to go and do new things, try to enjoy them. if you can, try to get your family or friends to assist you in it, theres no shame in needing help
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>>64097004
I wish I could sleep for even 6 hours a night :/
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>>64096601
i'm happy i'm twenty and still able to prevent something like this from happening, but at the same time i'm incredibly scared of this becoming reality for me because the time between 19 & 20 has pretty much been this for me
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>>64097290
insomnia huh? its common for people to not realise that insomnia is just as common as extreme lethargy when it comes to low moods and such
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>>64097267
They should have a read on their family/friends and judge if they should try to get help from them. Contrary to that all-too-common advice people can be a mixed bag, you get assholes who don't think depression is real or outright throw it in your face later. Easier for family to shit on each other because there's a tendency of politicking involved with them.
The only person who can solve your problems is you, usually.
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>>64097236
I have some health issues so sometimes i can hardly walk. I do read books tho, but it is still escapism like the vidya
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>>64096601
>Instead of making friends, having relationships, getting a career
Bullshit. Happy well-adjusted people can't stand long-term video gaming. You aren't one of them.
Ruing your time as if it could have been spent being normal in normie land is a lie that does you no good.

If you want money, go get some. If you want to do something new or learn a skill, start now. Stop pretending that if you just didn't play vidya you'd be Mr. Popular. Total BS.
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ages ago i used to read like 3 volumes of manga or even 4 if i had more coffee each day i read so much that i forgot how much i read in these past few years. Now at age 22 i can't even read anything. like i used to also play vidya mainly R6S ive put in alot of hours into and i dont feel a thing. fun wile it lasted my brothers.....
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>>64097293
I'm 23
It will happen
I was constantly thinking "nah I'll fix it next year I got time" and I never did
the worst part is the longer you do it the harder it is to crawl out
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>>64096601
do you at least stream? all the home sitting retards got rich off of getting on twitch tv early
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>>64097403
If only i knew that in the past
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>>64097355
i have similar, i have a nervous system issue that can result in me losing the ability to feel bellow my neck, have sudden seizure like muscle spasms and even go blind for short lengths of time. i still manage to go fishing on the odd occasion and even when i cant really move well some days i ask a family member to drive me down to the beach just so i can watch the ocean. it doesnt matter how infrequently you go out and do something, its just a case of atleast doing it sometimes. you'd be amazed how much it will impact your view of life and how much it can boost your mood
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>>64097394
This. Never stood a chance to begin with. The game was rigged from the start.
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>>64097455
I hve to go out for work 5 days a week, and in my day offs I just want to stay home. Hell, I don't even like walking or going out and forcing myself to do something will do nothing to improve my mood
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>>64097543
damn, well i hope in time you'll find something that helps you enjoy life more
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Really wish people who weren't completely debilitated would stop being pussies and giving up on changing or improving before they ever even tried. I dropped out of school at 14 and was NEET/hikki in my room until I was almost 21 so I know what it's like. Not trying to be a pity party laundry list of disorders cunt but I have/have been diagnosed with autism, schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, ADHD, etc a neurological disorder and an eye disorder that prevents me from ever driving a car and makes my eyes twitch violently 24/7 like a crackhead. I'm still far from where I want to be but I got a job, got my high school certificate while doing that then got a better job and am on track to get a better job yet again then went out and got friends and went out and still found that girls were interested in garbage like me and had a girlfriend who was better looking and a better person

It pisses me off because there are so many wasted potential people on this board that could work through nearly all of their problems within a year but never try to take the first step and go back to mindlessly refreshing this site with youtube in the background then sleeping ad nauseam. I felt so frustrated and behind everyone else and still do but I at least try and tried. I may as well be a literal retard, I can read a page of a book over and over and remember little to nothing. I still struggle with being able to come up with ANYTHING at all to say to anyone then there's people here who could probably rant for 20 minutes about a topic - even if it's something no one cares about but don't try to adapt that CAPABILITY into real world social skills.

tl;dr get the fuck off this toxic board of people who don't know anything about you trying to drag you down and tell you "IT'S OVER, GIVE UP" before you ever tried to do anything at all. Dudes are really on this board all the time about how they're almost 20 and their entire life is over because they don't have a six figure job and a model gf ffs
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>>64097694
>but never try to take the first step
Don't you think it is exactly their problem? Like they jsut can't get their shit together by themselves and there is noone around who cares enough to push them out of this swamp? Most of people here have unsolvable problems not cause they are that hard, but because they aren't strong enough to solve them.
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>Sat in my room and played video games from 5 to 16
>Instead of making friends, having relationships and doing anything with school or work.
>Lost interest in games years ago and filled with regret
>Tried to move on to do ??? instead
>Hopelessly lost in life.
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>>64097751
This is exactly why so many treat getting a gf as such a big deal. It's an outside intimate partner in life who you would want to improve yourself for, whose existence would give you that little boost of motivation, purpose, support, and obligation to get you going.
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>>64097751
Well idk what to say, no one is magically coming to save you or anyone else for that matter, life isn't an anime. So you have to work your way up anyway you can, even if it's slowly. Not everything in life is instant gratification with constant dopamine 24/7, especially for people like us. I know it's easy to fall give up and fall back to what you know but you just can't live like that, which is what we had to find out the hard way. I don't want to bring up myself again but as an example when I started trying to fix myself I had extreme selective mutism, so I'd start by walking around the block, then to the shops but not buying anything, then buying things without saying anything, then buying things and talking to the cashier etc etc. Yes I made an absolute fool of myself.

Even if people like us were to have a girlfriend or overly helpful best friend to appear in our rooms out of nowhere at the very start... WHY would they continue to try if you don't try or willingly have no merit as is?
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>>64097850
>but you just can't live like that
Well, apparently we can and do live like that. Some live better, some worse. If you can't overcome the obstacle, you just make a camp before it and try to make youself comfortable.
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i did this but from age 10 or younger all the way to 23. and a porn addiction starting at 10 years old. never stopped. i have gotten better and improved lately in the last couple years though. i improved a lot. but I'm still so fucked. I'm also poor as fuck. still enjoy vidya but i know it's a waste of time and i need to be focusing on a career. in community college but dont give a fuck. school is retarded and useless to me it seems. i'd rather make my own way. i started thinking, since im so passionate about vidya maybe I should figure out a way to make a career out of it. I decided to try and buy broken pcs and shit and fix them and sell them. i don't know if it will work but it's better than an actual job. but I don't have a lot of money. school and work when you do it because you have to or because someone else wants you to is soul crushing. living with your parents in mid twenties is soul crushing. being poor sucks dick. i probably retreated into porn and video games at such a young age because of neglectful parents. my mom is still neglectful to this day. doesn't actually help or care about my progress or ability to function at all and completely ignores my clinical level depression that i was diagnosed with at 13
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>>64096601
You did this in the first place to avoid the people you hate.
During these 7 years you simply forgot this.
Don't delude yourself.
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>>64097883
>Well, apparently we can and do live like that.
Yeah that's why people on this very thread talk about the immense regret of it all and there are all the people on this board and on more fringe communities who have gone and killed themselves when literally everything they spent years on - games, anime, movies, TV becomes boring and fruitless. This board ages ago used to have all sorts of threads constantly about how NEETs/hikkis are the masterrace and there's no point in the normalfag lifestyle but it can and will catch up with you, I lived that first hand, it is just a matter of time. Then came the massive wave of threads just like this about suicide, regret and wasted time, it only appears to be lesser these days because it's drowned out by all the normies, newfags and crossboarders.

I encourage with every fibre of my being for anyone on their way to this lifestyle or currently in the first stage of it to work your way out of it, it's fun now and living like this can feel like a weight off your shoulders but it catches up with you and hits you hard, believe me. Then the longer you take the harder it is to get out of it, compounding the problem further. Complete anhedonia awaits.
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>>64098012
yeah but maybe i couldve tried a bit harder.. went to psychiatrist to take care of my anxiety issues and got fit. Maybe then i would have friends and gfs in college instead of being depressed due to loneliness and failing out..
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>>64098029
how do I get out? I go out and talk to people and it goes alright but it's exhausting
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this is me except I stopped playing years ago because I was too depressed to enjoy games I actually liked. I still wagecucked but it wasn't worth it.
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>>64097694
How did you get friends?

I have a job but see no viable way to actually make friends.
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>>64098224
I wish I could give magic bullet advice but it doesn't exist... but you have to go to events. For me to start with it was concerts, small/medium bands at local bars/clubs, the anxiety was unreal the first few times but I would always get there early and stake out the place and noticed that a lot of people were in my type of situation, just there to see music they liked on their own, I would talk to people outside before it opened/started or in the concerts on the sides to people on their own. Luck can play a big part, but eventually having friends leads to making more friends. Some people would even come talk to me during intermissions in the concerts which helped. I'm not talkative but I've noticed a lot of people, especially men are content with you asking questions, acknowledging what they say like you are truly paying attention to them is enough. Then they would get my social media or I would get theirs (I didn't have any at the time, yeah...) and go from there, don't get too needy but message them, chat a bit and try to meet up again at some point. This won't pan out every time and don't get discouraged by it.

I also developed an interest in fashion, and would have pieces that aren't completely out there but stuff I liked, enough to be interesting to people into that that would be enough for them to occasionally talk to me for a little bit, which went somewhere occasionally. And I would do the same to other people, it's a conversation starter. A lot wouldn't go further than that but it boosted social skills, self-esteem and such anyway. I literally just met a random girl one time that started talking to me once, went op shopping with her, she was real social so I eventually got introduced to other friends and acquaintances of hers which snowballed into having more friends. This type of thing gets better over time, and the more people in general you meet the more you meet that you click with and truly become friends with. Again though, luck.
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>>64098394
One thing I also take into account is this
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/8/1/20750047/millennials-poll-loneliness
https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/1-in-5-millennials-are-lonely-and-have-no-friends-survey/
a LOT of young-ish people are in the same boat
It may seem like it but not everyone is a giga-normie with a million friends and a gf... even people you don't realise and a lot of them are trying to do the very same thing as you.

If you do have a job though, don't be afraid to if possible go hang out with someone sorta similar in age to you, this has worked with me sometimes but for a lot of people if they've spent 8 hours at you at work they don't want to hang out with you even if they do like being around with you, don't take it personally.

Again I wish there was some magical checklist of things to do that anyone can follow and have a huge group of friends, but we kinda just have to figure it out ourselves.
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>>64098425
People all over the internet would say stuff like meetup groups/websites/apps but I found they were cliquey and pre-established. It's worth a try but it wasn't for me.
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guys op here how do i fix myself now? i fear its too late as i dont even have a degree.
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>>64098693
IT'S OVER, GIVE UP
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>>64098752
ok was planning on that anyway. Well at least my failures wont matter anymore when im gone.
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>>64096601
Same except I never cared for games, I just passed my days drinking, smoking cigs, smoking weed, and shitposting
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>>64096601
>>Lost interest in games now and filled with regret
Get back into games
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>>64096601
How the fuck do you spend that much time on video games? The quality of media in all forms has been slipping hard for decades. Tv is boring, games are boring , fucking YouTube is boring. Nothing fucking interests me except my personal coding projects and porn. Coding ,porn and to a much lesser extent alcohol. everything else just sucks.
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>>64098908
I have played every good game from 2007 to 2021. If you can name a good game I've probably played it.
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I was a fucking ugly loser that played video games 15 hours a day for my whole life until I was 20 years old. Lost interest completely and made women my hobby instead. Terrible mistake. They are boring faggots that are almost always usually dykes so you have to tame them. I was poisoned by some bitch that was angry at me for wasting her time but I kept going. Being a loser and suddenly getting women to like you is fucking torture
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>>64098919
2007 was amazing because of halo 3 and right after modern warfare 2. It created our childhoods. Before that I went through any console you could ever think of. I still have a box of a million PS2 games
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>>64098952
The years 2007 to 2012 had so many good games releasing every other month. That's when I became a hardcore 'gamer'. Fuck I wish piracy wasnt a thing I wouldnt have been able to get into gaming then
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>>64098224
literally go anywhere with alcohol I've just gone out and had people come up and talk to me trying to get my number (not gay) without me even trying to do anything. If you're the one putting in effort it'd probably be even easier. If that doesn't work you could always get a hobby where you have to interact with people like card games or nearly dead games so you see someone regularly enough that you'll get to know them.
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>>64099133
Alcohol controlled my life for the last 10 years and I can confirm. I have had 5 girlfriends by now just because of drugs and alcohol. When you get the girlfriend even MORE whores come up to you. I had 10 chances with more girls only after getting a girl interested but you know how that goes.
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>>64099309
blackpill is knowing you basically have to be a piece of shit in life to get ahead. I'd set aside the idealism anon and only work for your self interest provided you don't do anything heinous
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>>64099360
I appreciate the kind words. I am I recovering addict in a weird position. Its been about a year but I think I will die soon from my lifestyle. Its been fun but the last year has put my brain in a fucking bubble. I was the nicest man in the world until I realized that it does nothing. Once I treated everyone like shit everyone suddenly loves me. It makes absolutely no sense
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>>64099470
>It makes absolutely no sense
yea I know I hate it too. Enjoy that last year of your life.
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>finding friends after college
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>>64096631
maybe because video games are fun, brainwashed normie freak
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>Implying we ever had a choice
Funny desune
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>>64096623
How did you learn programming? Love to start?
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gamings only for people who have their lives together
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>>64100321
programmings a lifestyle

>Love to start
unless youre a teen its too late
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>>64096601
Me
No regrets because i don't like people and don't see anything else i could have possibly been doing
When i was starting to feel like i could be doing more i commited to learning japanese and now i'm translating shit in exchange for dopamine
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>>64096601
Elden Ring is coming out in January
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>>64100321
Its fucking worthless anyways. I can make entire apps by myself and no one hires me and my apps make no money. ITS BULLSHIT dont fall for the coding jew.
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>>64100719
If you and I went to a psychiatrist and got xanax or something we would've found it easy to make friends and maybe even get laid.
I wish I wasnt passive and actually tried to fix my issues instead of coping with games and alcohol.
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I shit I legit forgot this game existed. This and ffxvi may be the only games I'm still excited for.
>>64100888
how long does it take to get this good? I actually want to make a few apps not for financial reasons though
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the main reason i feel its too late, is that i cant 'one and done' anymore.

my peers who are marrying their first loves. i wish i had that. at 28 its too late for that, im not interested in women several years younger than me. maybe im being a bitch, but finding someone in your late teens and spending your 20s travelling together and your 30s getting married and having kids was the dream for me. once it was no longer possble everything deteriorated.

i have one business idea, and im trying to pick up a trade as a back up. thats all ive got.

women of my race find the men unattractive so they either whitemanwhore or stay single. i dont see a light so working hard to fix myself is that much harder.
im just rambling looking for sympathetic yous.
if youre under 25 hurry.the.fuck.up and get your shit together.
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>>64100907
I wonder
I guess that's probably true
I'm sure i'm too far gone because i enjoy this quiet life somewhat
I have something i enjoy doing even if i can't ever be normal
The thought of being normal, having friends and getting laid makes me nostalgically sad, like normal life is coveted but i wouldn't be happy with it
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>>64100966
>how long does it take to get this good? I actually want to make a few apps not for financial reasons though
depends on your iq.
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>implying you can lose interest in games
Nice try normalnigger.
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>>64096601
27 here too, I started spending most of my time watching anime and playing games when I was a teenager and it lasted way too long, I think I have plenty of time to turn things about though, I'm fine with not making a lot of money, and I can live frugally anyway, the most important things I want to focus on are being healthy and my relationships with people. Something I worry about is that because everyone has more experience at 'living' than me that they're also bitter and carrying around baggage that they're going to project onto me, there's nothing I can do about it though.
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>>64100989
>depends on your iq.
I was tested as 131 in the second grade
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>went to college meme
>got degree
>got job in major, but contract cut short
>struggling to find job with minimal experience
>keep getting bombarded with sales jobs which I don't want
>send out 60 applications this week
>know it's not gonna matter
>planning to drink myself into a coma tonight
I fucking hate my life
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>>64096601
I'm 22 but I feel the same way OP.
My entire teenage years were spent playing games and not going to school. I'm realizing that I'm on the path to my own personal hell. Video games are rarely even fun anymore, nothing brings me joy like it used to. Instead I feel guilt and shame. I hate myself for having had so much time and wasting it yet that's exactly what I'm doing right now.
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>>64101524
>22
You still have a shred of hope. Please, Anon, do not throw it away like I did.
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>>64096740
>The last time I had a consistent friend group irl was when I was a pre-teen
Same except I was 13. I've been an utter social outcast ever since, I have no idea how normal people even operate at this point.
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>>64098768
>at least my failures wont matter anymore when im gone
They already don't matter.

As for the degree, unless there's a specific job you want requiring it, I'd advise against it. You'd be better off going to trade school. Even if you don't live in a place where getting a degree is as costly as in America, going to trade school will have the advantage of improving your life way faster. Also, they actually get a job once their short studies is over, which is not the case for all university degree.
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>>64101192
Oh, then, exactly 72 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes and 23 seconds.
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>>64096601
>>>/tv/152197675
The only difference between pulling girls when you're 20 vs 30 is that they're gonna be slightly older. You won't be getting with an 18 year old unless she's into older guys (and everyone's known those sluts who bring back guys in their 40s for a ONS), but there are still tons of good looking bitches who are 22 to 27. Remember the wall memes about girls hitting the wall at 21 are just jokes so don't be a fool who creates their worldview based on jokes. If you're obsessed with 18 year olds, here's some hard hitting reality, any 18 year old who sleeps around has already sucked dozens of dicks. The only difference between 18 year olds and 24 year olds who aged well is that the 24 year olds sucked some more dicks, but at that point it doesn't matter, because once a girl sucks their first dick their virginity value is gone anyways so 18 year old don't even have what attracted to to them (innocent, pure). It's like adding some drops of a water in an ocean. Don't worry about looking like a creep in your 30s if you bang girls who are in their 20s because no one sensible gives a fuck about that. You only look creepy to normies if you tell them you bang 18 year olds. There are tons of girls who go for 7+ year age difference in casual and even serious dating. And finally, don't be afraid of being called creepy. Embrace it. Your ancestors were called creepy for hundreds of years when they raided nearby villages and pillaged them and raped their women. Don't act creepy but have the mindset where you're not ashamed of anything. Women are dumb and will believe you are awesome if you think you are and convince them you are with your energy.
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>>64102627
someone give me the real answer
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>>64102703
A higher IQ means you can learn faster, but it still depends on other factors like the amount of time you put each day or what you define to be the success condition, as in what degree of mastery do you want when it comes to making an app? What kind of app do you wanna make? How much do you want to understand?

Making some BS app by following a tutorial without really understanding what you're doing can be done in a single day if you have an IQ 131.

If you specifically want to learn programming for apps, it depends on whether you wanna work with Android or Apple. For Android, learn the basics of Java. For iOS, I think you can learn Swift or Objective-C. There are other languages that would work, but those would be the most popular for this. Once you know what basic general programming concepts like control flow and function calls are, move to learning the specifics of app development, i.e. literally google "Android development".

I highly doubt you have an IQ of 131 or you would've figured this out on your own.
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>>64100995
You can when they start getting tainted and warped to not appeal to you.
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>>64102904
ok shittard I'm telling the score they gave me which qualified me for gifted program in school, if you don't like it take it up with iq tests.
Just a heads up iq is not the magic bullet you think it is just because someones smart doesn't mean they'll answer every question the way you want.
>but it still depends on other factors
no shit dude who woulda thought? Do you not know what a ballpark is? like if someone told you, you can live in sa and asia on less than $1000 per month but you need more than that to live in the us and europe, would you be unable to comprehend that some people there live on five figures per month and some people here spend $0? Just googling boot camps they give you a rough estimate of 6 months, I just wanted to see what people on here would say because you can get different answers than just what some university or crash course would give you when they have some financial incentive to mislead you. I can kinda see now why you're not getting work.
>Making some BS app by following a tutorial without really understanding what you're doing can be done in a single day
well obviously this isn't what I want because then you don't have an actual understanding of the skill and can't make things on your own. Also the time to learn WOULD JUST BE THE LENGTH OF THE TUTORIAL
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>>64103132
thats why you shouldn't play shallow games that end when their content is all experienced. Something like a competitive game can be infinitely replayed and you have more fun each time.
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>>64103312
The time it'd take you to go over one or two college science textbooks should be enough to start making your own stuff. The time it takes you to follow a full course or two on Open MIT should be about enough. I can give you some ballparks like that, but I don't know you. You can literally look up what you need to learn from my post and estimate on your own the amount of time it would take you to learn that. Like, get a book on Java and a book on Android development. Look at the number of pages and the perceived density of the subject and make the estimate. Or do the same with video lectures if you prefer them. Stop expecting us to spoonfeed you and stop being so emotional, faggot.
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Turned 25 not too long ago and trying to unfuck my shit after years of pissing away my life with video games. I still enjoy games but when I look back on the time I've wasted and how everyone else my age is out there having fun and not being embarrassments it makes me feel like shit. Even with that I find it hard to do basic tasks anymore since all the motivation to do anything has been sucked out of my body.
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>>64103455
>stop being so emotional, faggot
ironic since you wrote your blog first. literally all you had to do was throw out a number followed by the unit of time. Since you said you can't find work let me give you some advice, learn how to make an estimate, this is how the professional world works. I just hired an engineering company (not software) and when I asked them how much for a product they said $6000 and one week, I later gave them the details and they said $5000 and four days. There done. They didn't go on some autistic rant about how output varies with time and effort and shit literally eveyone already knows. They just gave me a number that for all practical purposes was pretty much spot on, I may as well have only used the estimate.
>muh spoonfeeding
nigger people come on here to discuss things if you wanted to post your little complaint and not talk about it you should've just posted and left the thread. Don't blame me blame me for trying to find someone more interesting to talk to god forbid I learn something or perhaps find someone who has a contrarian view that could save me months of time.
Don't even bother replying anymore
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>19
>I don't need a social life I'm satisfied as long as I have an internet connection
>24
>absolutely hate internet culture
>everythings the same homogenized amalgamation of reddit/twitter bullshit
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personally I dont know why you're so gay dude I mean youve been alive all this time and you havent realized your mom is a fag who aborted you when you were 6 months but you're in a simulation where dead babies go, like a purgatory for those who aren't wanted
jk
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>>64096601
I just joined the navy so hopefully that reverses my robot-dom but so far little progress has been made
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>>64103722
>Since you said you can't find work let me give you some advice, learn how to make an estimate
Not the same anon. Try again.

>They didn't go on some autistic rant about how output varies with time and effort and shit literally eveyone already knows
Because they already know their capabilities. I don't know yours, but let me tell you this thread didn't give much of a good impression on them, lmao.

>if you wanted to post your little complaint and not talk about it
Again, not the same anon. Stop making assumptions, nigger. See picrel and look at the (You)s.
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>>64100966
programming nowadays is not a matter of beeing 'smart', its about beeing good at glueing together what other people have already made.
think about a car: someone makes the engine, someone makes the tires, someone makes the gearbox, and it all gets aseembled in the end. programing nowadays is very much like asemblying parts. you need to know those parts and need to know how to glue them together. i'd say you can get pretty good in one year by learning the fundamentals first and then learning some library/framework/toolchain that is specific to whatever you are trying to build
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Idk man I'm 33 and still spending my entire leisure time with vidya
Never touched a woman other than parents. Don't have friends. No fucks given, I'm happy. Could be happier if I had enough money so I didn't need to work but eh, it is what it is.
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I've wasted the years 18 to 21. So not as bad as OP but I still feel like shit.
I'm thinking of getting into programming, then maybe even try studying chemistry or biology or something when I can try the college thing again. I'm worried about being too old already though, I've forgotten a lot of the maths I learned in school and re-learning sounds like so much effort. Being a NEET has made me so fucking lazy and demotivated.
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>>64096601
>making friends having relationships and getting a career
sounds boring desu
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>5-19
Starting to get bored of games

Oh noes guys, what do I do vidya is all I have, guess I need to get a job now..
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>>64103333
That's irrelevant, competitive games can be and are actually generally more pozzed than casual ones, easier to sell skins with faggot characters etc.
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Anon, the only thing you missed out on during that time is whatever personal adventure you think you should go on. If anything, it's just about to begin if you bother with it since you tire of your life with how it's structured.

That said, I have no clue how anyone is supposed to have friends, relationships or a career. A career usually has you cucking to your boss or financial giants, I don't think you can make "friends" at work because everyone there is for money and not the well being of society and good luck finding a woman that's actually interesting enough for you to want to be a man for.

Struggle, but don't expect anything to work, even when you're doing nothing wrong.
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>>64097850
I'm saving this.
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>>64096601
then do something else now faggot, at least you got to do something you enjoyed until you no longer enjoyed it. unlike most people, who live their lives doing things they don't enjoy until they die.
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>>64097694
As someone with a debilitating voice disorder I could not agree more lmao.
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>>64096601
It's still not too late to go out and get some company anon, start going regularly to a bar and you might get some conversations started if you're smart about it
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>>64096631
Video games are better than real life.
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>>64097850
I have selective mutism too. The worst thing about it is that I can't control it
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>>64097976
>living with your parents in mid twenties is soul crushing
This
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>>64096601
yeah i dont think theres a way back
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I'm basically trapped in my parents house until I graduate college, so I really have no choice.



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