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Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is an introspective self-report questionnaire indicating differing psychological preferences in how people perceive the world and make decisions. The test attempts to assign four categories: introversion or extraversion, sensing or intuition, thinking or feeling, judging or perceiving.

Test that is ok enough:
https://sakinorva.net/functions

An introductory article:
https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/

Additional tests and resources:
https://pastebin.com/p1aw7cYS

>Your type
>Do you want to get married?
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?

Previous Thread: >>69695796
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>>69701511
>Myers-Briggs Type Indicator
Stop it i hate your dumb astrology thread
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>>69701511
I would unironically love to get married, most wholesome
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>>69701511
>Your type
I don't know
>Do you want to get married
No
>Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
No
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>>69701511
>Your type
INFJ
>Do you want to get married?
Sometimes in my fantasies but the investment is too terrifying and if the other person was ever dissatisfied I literally wouldn't know how to handle it
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Maybe an INFP, they seem... suggestible? Anyone with a base layer of dignity and kindness really
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Most - I think ISTJs are usually reliable, nurturing, don't have weird feeler-y hangups, and enjoy the stability that marriage can provide.
Least - Idk, EXXP can be fickle and self serving
>Wizardshit
That sounds like hell, no one would choose this unless their perfect partner was walking life insurance or they were willing to pull a huge longcon for some cuck fantasy
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>>69701511
>type
INTP
>do I want to get married?
Not sure, really. Do I want a gf? Sure. Would it be nice to have a long and satisfying relationship with her, possibly lifelong? Sure. Kids? Possibly. The whole social and legal ritual around marriage? Not a fan of it.
>what type?
Definitely not a Se-groid of any kind, with maybe an exception for Ni-doms. A Fe-aux or an xNFP sounds like a good idea. Maybe an INTJ, they can be quite sweet when young and not jaded. A Te-dom or Fe-dom would just be tiring as fuck to be near. Dunno enough about ISTJ chicks, what are they like?
>types most and least suited for marriage?
Common sense answer: Si-ggers and Se-groids respectively. The former like routine, stability and responsibility, the latter don't.
>offer
Hard pass, it's just extreme depression on a 10-year timer. You'd have to be a retard to take it.
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>>69701511
>Your type
INFP
>Do you want to get married?
No i'm made to be alone
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
If i were to get married, i'd like a xNFJ
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Probably xSxJs and xSxPs respectively
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
Literally why the fuck would anybody say yes, what's even the point of accepting a deal like that
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>Your type
ENTP
>Do you want to get married?
50/50
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
INxx
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Most suited: INFx
Least suited: ESxx
>...Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
Hell to the fuck NO. I'm pretty sure that I would get a life sentence for a double premeditated murder. Combine that with a broken heart and you have hell on earth.
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>>69701511
>Your type
ISFJ
>Do you want to get married?
I'd much rather just confess my undying love to a female since marriage has too much baggage and the word "wife" i kind of embarrassing to say out loud. My surname is kind of shitty as well, I kind of get why peasants didn't bother with them at all.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
N doms, that is INTJ, INFJ, ENFP, ENTP
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Who cares?
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
Sure why not? 10 years is a long time you know.


>>69701674
>Literally why the fuck would anybody say yes, what's even the point of accepting a deal like that
How about having zero prospect of a woman letting you near her for 10 minutes, let alone 10 years. Good opportunity to reproduce as well. Just have the kids early on and they'll be old enough for it not to be particularly damaging when you split up. Also you'd have 10 years to prepare yourself emotionally for the breakup too.
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>>69701747
>Also you'd have 10 years to prepare yourself emotionally for the breakup too.
You wouldn't, because the wizard wipes your memory.
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>>69701755
sorry I can't read. Oh well, I'd still do it
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>>69701511
>Your type
INFJ-A
>Do you want to get married?
Some day, yes.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Probably an ESxP or ISxP. Se users are a qt.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Isn't this the same question as the previous one? I don't think any type is more or less suited for marriage. It comes down to personal preference, and my personal preference is I wouldn't marry an ESxJ or an ISxJ.
>Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
No, only a retard would take that deal. I would push the wizard off a cliff, steal his robes, dye them red and assume the position of the wizard myself giving people a much more reasonable deal. It would still come at a cost though.
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>>69701511
>>Your type
Isxp
>>Do you want to get married?
Yeah I guess so
>>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Probably estp
>>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
It feels like it was made for xstjs
Of course enxps would be the least suitable
>>wizard's offer?
No, more importantly why is this even a question?
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>>69701511
>wizard's offer?
Yes. It's better at least to feel something instead of being forever alone
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>>69701511
>Your type
ISTP
>Do you want to get married?
Yeah sure, that's unrealistic as fuck, but sure
>If so what type would you like to get married to?
Not the whiny ones
>Wizard offer
no
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>>69701747
Kek of course the thread's pet retard is the only one who takes the deal
Anyway i just want to let you know that the fact that you would intentionally grow kids in a broken household just to stroke your ego is honestly disgusting, truly everytime i think i couldn't have a lower opinion of you you manage to surprise me
That's it, please do not reply, i don't want to hear any more of your retarded opinions
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>>69701511
>Your type
INTP
>Do you want to get married?
I have a husbando. As for marrying a real person, even were I not already committed I doubt I would ever get the chance anyway.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Husbando is ESFP on PDB, which I consider an actually accurate judgment. Were I not with him, I would still want to maybe marry an Se user, we have the most to gain from each other.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
I can't really answer as I don't think type determines how good a partner someone would be. High Fe can help with being marriage material but even then too much depends on the person.
>wizard
I wouldn't set myself up for heartbreak like that.
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>>69702201
>raising kids in an unstable environment is worse than not having kids
lol, OK antinatalist
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>>69702201
>the thread's pet retard
Hey, don't steal INFJ-A's title.
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>>69702255
Yes and you're a horrible person
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I like how the way they talk about it.
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>>69683373
This post honestly made me think that it would be nice to be anon's wife.

>>69696494
I'm about as lost in my own head and disconnected from my surroundings as humanly possible. Like if someone's talking to me then I'll pay attention to them in order to not be rude of course, but otherwise I spend even the time where I'm surrounded by people or in busy environment lost in thought and musing over things.

>>69701619
What do you mean by suggestible, and how's that relate to dignity and kindness?

>>69701674
>Literally why the fuck would anybody say yes, what's even the point of accepting a deal like that
kek, I just enjoy suffering porn (the book I wrote included tons of that) and I was just curious to see how people would respond. I think INFPs would be the most likely type to go the "It's better to have loved and lost" route since I know at least three INFPs that have said they value all feelings and emotions and emotional experiences, even negative ones (which stands in contrast to me since I want to avoid emotional vulnerability)

>>69701951
Based. What would your deal entail, Red Wizard INFJ-A?
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>>69701951
>Isn't this the same question as the previous one?
I interpreted them as the first question asking what type you would like to marry, while the second asks what types are more or less likely to make a marriage work
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>>69701511
Why are all yellows such attention hogging faggots
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>>69702356
Because Se
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>>69702323
You made the thread? It's kind of hot how you're sweet and cute but secretly have a dark mind.
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>>69702323
>What do you mean by suggestible
They tend to very soft and lax, in my experience many have self-esteem too low to question abusive behavior directed against them and are excessively forgiving - same with me kinda, except I can only suppress that shit for so long until I erupt with resentment, they seem to have infinite patience. Not to say I want to abuse them (maybe playfully) but a relationship where I could take the directing role is probably the only one I'll ever consider due to issues w/ control
>and how's that relate to dignity and kindness?
Hmm more of an additional observation, they're dependent in a way that makes them very loyal and honest
>>69702356
This is XNTP behavior
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>>69701511
You know thats one of the reasons why I do not drink. I can get pretty carried away when it comes to the devils nectar. Prefer a nice cigar smoke anyways, and knowing me it would be a joke that leads to a toast. I am like a clown, I just cannot stop making jokes. Literally just comes out subconsciously.
>type
ENTP
>marriage
95% opposed if only because I know I do not have the temperament for anything longterm. Also grew up in dysfunctional environments, soured my view on that thing before I was 10. Also need muh freedom.
>that wizard shit
Would just tell him where to shove that stick of his. If its going to burn in flames that badly then whats the point?
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>tfw 30 year old entp wizard
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Would Turbie make a good husband?
Would Sophie make a good husband?
Would Centaur make a good husband?
Would Breeder make a good husband?
Would Mosley make a good husband?
Would INFJ-A make a good husband?
Would Resident Polack make a good husband?
Would ENFJ-senpai make a good wife?
Would Rxy make a good wife?
Would Fugokin make a good wife?
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6 months ago I was ISTP. This time INTJ. I think it's because I got a job.
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>>69702370
Sounds like a meme but for Se doms it can feel like not existing if you aren't being noticed/seen/heard/etc. by people around you.
They are the kind of people who like looking at shiny stuff and being the shiny stuff themselves.
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>>69701511
>>Your type
INTP
>>Do you want to get married?
the idea is appealing. Don't fully know yet.
>>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
no idea
>>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
i don't know enough mbtism to make that decision
>>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
sounds like a good way to get my heart broken to pieces
i'll pass
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>>69701511
>Your type
INTP
>Do you want to get married?
Maybe? I'm not sure but I'm disgusting as fuck so probably will never be married even if I would want to
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
INTX or ISTP
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
IDK
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
nah
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>>69701511
INTJ

I'm very in between. I appreciate and carve a lot of alone time but I think I'd be down for marriage. Depends a lot with who though.

The types I always felt the most attracted to were ENTPs, ENTJs and INFPs

No, I won't accept the offer. Are 10 years of happiness really worth it in exchange for another 30-40 of misery?
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>>69684327
>Lost in daydreams
Yeah, this is 100 percent INFJ and 100 percent INFP.
>I'm extremely sensitive, moody, and neurotic, which fits with stereotypes for both types, I believe.
Kind of, though I get the impression that INFPs are more prone to internalize their feelings than share them with anyone, to a greater degree than INFJ.
>which could either be healthy (?) Fi or unhealthy aux Fe that tries to compensate for its lack of personality and identity by attaching itself to vain things like that.
The former sounds more likely honestly. I'm actually not sure if aux Fe, healthy or unhealthy, would operate in the way you describe.
>I like curt and direct people that don't mince their words which could either be healthy Fi again or I might be projecting my Fe insecurities with expressing myself honestly onto other people
I would consider the former much more likely. You would need to have an intense, pervasive dislike for your lack of brutal honesty for the latter to hold true; a minor or intermittent misgiving wouldn't be enough. It also depends on how mixed your feelings are towards extremely blunt, direct people. If you simultaneously respect/admire them while also being appalled by them, I think Fe becomes more likely. If you have singularly good feelings with no bad ones mixed in, I think Fi is more likely. Personal hang-ups with yourself would make you more apt to respect those who don't have those same "flaws," but it wouldn't fully erase and override your natural Fe preferences.

Anyway, seems the matter's at a standstill. Maybe others can chime in with more questions to ask yourself to figure things out.

>>69697155
That's interesting. My best friend from K-6 was a definite externalizer whereas I've spent my life as an internalizer. We both had similar issues but expressed them in opposite ways. He responded to his home situation by becoming a BPD walking force of chaos with antisocial traits, I became a meek submissive doormat.
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>>69702726
I forgot to answer one of the questions.

I think the types mpst suited for marriage are definitely the XSFJs. They are stereotypically the trad wives.
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>your type
>if there were a button that turned you into a cute anime girl, would you press it


>>69701511
>>Your type
INFJ-T!!! ^_^'
>>Do you want to get married?
I'm not particularly interested in it, but I'm still open to the idea~! :3c
>>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
INFJ-T!!! *^o^*
or any INXX-T really, if you ask my heart! My head still thinks an ESTP-A Chad could be ideal, though, but I feel our marriage wouldn't be that happy! :'O
>>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Most suited: INFJ-T!!! \(^_^)/ Actually, ISTJ-T might be better, then maybe ISTJ-A, ISFJ-T, ISFJ-A, INTJ-T - and ~maybe~ at this point INFJ-T... :3c
Least suited: Maybe ESTP-A...? and ESFP-A, ESTP-T, ESFP-T, ENFP-A, ENTP-A, ENFP-T, ENTP-T... ^.^ (unless it's a half-open marriage) :'3c
>>wizard question
I-I'd politely refuse his offer! ^_^


To be continued...
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>>69702745
>I would consider the former much more likely. You would need to have an intense, pervasive dislike for your lack of brutal honesty for the latter to hold true; a minor or intermittent misgiving wouldn't be enough. It also depends on how mixed your feelings are towards extremely blunt, direct people. If you simultaneously respect/admire them while also being appalled by them, I think Fe becomes more likely. If you have singularly good feelings with no bad ones mixed in, I think Fi is more likely. Personal hang-ups with yourself would make you more apt to respect those who don't have those same "flaws," but it wouldn't fully erase and override your natural Fe preferences.
Is this speculative shit you're doing here Ni, Ne, or Ti? Functions are so fucking confusing
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>>69702785
Speculation is often produced by a mix of intuition of thinking.
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do all INTPs feel that everything is kind of shit? Or is it just me?
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>>69702805
It's because they have Ne in their auxillary slot. Looking outward into the world of ideas is seen as a necessary chore so they add a bitter slant to everything.

>>69702776
>ISFJ
Would I! In fact not being an anime girl is how I reassure myself that I'm not god, or in control of the universe, because other wise I would be one already. Really saved me while I was high as balls on shrooms.
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>>69703020
what sort of anime girl would you want to be?
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>>69701511
I have gone full circle and will now declare myself as an INTP.

I will accept no typing for the timebeing, and I am quite confident with my status as an INTP
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>>69702805
It's all so tiresome, isn't it?
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>>69703436
>INFJ larping as an INTP
lol. lmao.
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>>69703436
hmm
the chickenborg i made isn't that bad i guess
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>>69703450
This implies that INTP is a desireable type to be, and that INFJ is not the #1 mistype for attention whores
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I NEED MORE MOTIVATION
SHOW ME YOUR MOTIVATION
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>>69703315
Genki, big boobiess. Like G from that picture anon posted the other day, This one
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>>69701511
>Your type
INFx-T
>Do you want to get married?
Not really sure. It's kind of weird if I'm still calling my partner "girlfriend" decades into our relationship, but the idea of marriage is pretty weird too and I'd hate the whole ceremony part of it. Maybe a quiet one where we just sign the papers would be fine.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Probably xNTJ.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Si doms are likely most suited, extroverted perceiving dom types least.
>You are walking through the woods
Probably wouldn't take it. It's best not to know what it's like to experience a relationship with a perfectly compatible significant other, unless you don't have too many years left to live afterwards.

>>69702745
Wow, thanks for such a detailed analysis! Though I'm back to vacillating between the two types again now lol. I should have stuck with writing INFx...

>INFPs are more prone to internalize their feelings than share them with anyone
Very interesting you bring this up. This is very much true for me, I've often found it to be a waste of time and the other person's emotional energy to discuss my feelings with them. Even if they're very empathetic and responsive to what I say and listen attentively, I still don't seem to feel satisfied--I have to process the feelings on my own before they'll settle down. I also can't help but feel like literally no one can possibly understand precisely how I feel lol, because even if they can understand the underlying emotion, they'll never have the full picture of my life experiences and abstract mental imagery that accompany it. I find myself wishing brain-linking devices existed. All that does sound very Fi, so that's a big point in favor of INFP.
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>>69702745
>I'm actually not sure if aux Fe, healthy or unhealthy, would operate in the way you describe.
Huh, interesting. I know someone who's an INFJ who is also quite into obscure stuff, so I thought it fit, but upon consideration I actually have no idea how they feel about it or what reasons they're into it for. Maybe they're just seeking some perfect thing that their Ni vision is telling them to seek, and it merely ends up being obscure by chance, which is quite different from the insecurity-related reasons I described.

>You would need to have an intense, pervasive dislike
I see. I think I used to have that but nowadays I don't want to be brutally honest anymore and just want to find a balance that's closer to honesty than what I usually tend towards. At the same time I do sort of have mixed feelings towards blunt people? Sometimes I'm offended when they are blunt towards people other than me, especially people who are clearly sensitive. I'm pretty conflicted about this though since I'm sensitive too and I prefer bluntness...

Welp, now I'm leaning towards INFP again... fug.

>Maybe others can chime in
Yeah, I'll answer any questions so if anyone else is willing to try typing me, I'd be grateful.

>>69702776
>your type
INFx-T
>if there were a button that turned you into a cute anime girl, would you press it
Would it place me inside a fictional world of some kind? If so, yes. However, if I'd just become a less uncanny-valley kigurumi in the real world, then I'm not sure... it'd be interesting but I'd also probably have to lead a life of hiding and never be able to go out in public. Might be worth it if Centy is willing to marry me and be the provider kek.
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>>69703581
>INFx-T
That's literally the most common result on the most common test that isn't even proper MBTI.
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>>69703581
>>69703589
Bitch you INFP as hell
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>>69703595
Indeed, but it's not like I haven't gotten that result on other tests too. Not that tests in general are worth much, which is why I still suspect it's possible I'm INFJ.
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>>69703627
I'll take that into consideration. Only an INFP would be retarded enough to think it's possible they're an INFJ anyways.
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Me doing the glomping~! :3


>>69702776
>>69701511
To add to my answer, I think ENFP-T and maybe ENFP-A might be okay with and maybe even love also fully open marriages!

>>69703020
Did you think about anime girls while on shrooms? :O

>>69695099
TURBIE!!! <(^o^)>


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>>69701511
>Your type
INTP
>Do you want to get married?
absolutely, and I would like to have children with my spouse.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
ENTJ. I can really only see a relationship working out if my partner is much more dominant than I.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
most: any of them ending with an FJ
least: INTP
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
No, obviously not. That sounds like torture.
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>>69695126
>I love that picture!
Awwww, thank you~! <3

I have actually posted the pic once before! I then asked /mbti/ what they would do if it suddenly started raining turbies! ISFJ ( Centaur! <3 ) said he'd become happy and try to save as many of them as possible, whereas IXTXs would either go home or kill themselves! :'O
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/69060865/#69068652

>Also hmm, is this picture actually hidden turbie lore? It must be depicting the moment turbies first appeared on Earth. On that day it was raining cats and dogs and turbies! They're actually kind aliens that one day fell from the sky onto Earth to teach humans how to be more kyoot and femmy. Okay I'll stop writing headcanon now haha.
I love this!!! ^o^ <3<3<3

>I suppose what I had in mind is that you'd be exactly the same as now but just look even more feminine, and have all the body parts and stuff. And maybe your family/relatives' memories would be modified slightly so they wouldn't question your sudden transformation.
That sounds great! UwU


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>>69703450
What makes you say that? I mean, you can tell me why you think I'm an INFJ and then I can tell you why I think you're completely wrong.
>>69703455
Nice. Pasta with spinach and chicken here. I kinda fucked up by adding peanut butter like my mom does for pesto, I think it would have been fine, but the butter had already separated into fat and these dry lumps of protein, which were shit, so that was a bad idea.
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>>69703709
>>69695126
>I thought you'd care more about it since you mentioned something about wishing that everyone would have more estrogen or something like that before?
Y-yeah... well... I have to take back a bit... In my post, I used gender more as a (rough) synonym for sex, rather than as "feminine/masculine/androgynous"! That said, in reality, being a masculine man or a feminine woman is basically an essential building block for relatively successful/easy life and maybe there's no significant difference between the two if the individuals being compared to one another have otherwise equal skills, attributes, and so forth... You ~can~, however, lead an easy, successful, or fulfilling life as a gender-nonconforming person if you have the luck, charisma, confidence, and environment to pull it off~! ^_^;
Nevertheless! I think in an *ideal* society, testosterone doesn't exist and everyone is femmy and has a moderate amount of estrogen in their system... ^_^;

>Why is it more interesting to meet new INFJ-Ts than any other type?
Because I'm an INFJ-T myself, and it's intriguing to see how similar or different we are~! Also, it gives me a sense of community when there are multiple people who share my type! (>^_^)><(^_^<)


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>>69703712
i made a spicy kfc style borg
protip
always use drumstick meat and nothing else
anything else becomes very dry
drumstick meat is perfect and never becomes dry and it is the most delicious part
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I've taken too many of these, but I'm an:
INFP
4w5
451
Toreador/Silent Strider/Akashic Brother/Eshu
Earth Bender
I've been typed as all 4 Harry Potter houses and I don't understand how people can associate with one, because they're all just different parts of most people's personalities.

Also all of this is bullshit and the only one with scientific backing is the Big Five, but I took the two most reputable Big Five tests, and they differed a lot. I answered them both completely honestly. Both said I was extremely high in Openness to Experience, but at least half the people who take it get that same result. One said I was mid range in Conscientiousness, one said I was low. One said I was high in Extraversion, one said I was low-average. One said I was high in Agreeableness, one said I was mid. Both said I was fairly high in Neuroticism.
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>>69703693
Actually I mostly thought about regular girls desu, pretty sure I was born as one a few times, and got molested by Jimmy Saville on more than one occasion. But it was years ago now, so who knows what false memories I've made up about it by now? The only concrete thing was that it made me wish I had breasts in my face.
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>>69703775
>Also all of this is bullshit and the only one with scientific backing is the Big Five
But it's also a whole lot of fucking nothing so it's not even worth discussing about it.
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>>69702323
>What would your deal entail
It would be some sort of oracle dealio, a call to adventure requiring great sacrifice that would be tailored to each person who finds the great red wizard. The reward would be the person whom they desire the most, they would just find each other. It would be up to the desirer to prove their worth and maintain themselves, lest everything fall apart before their very eyes.

Everyone would know about the blue wizard handing out free gfs to anyone who would find him. After murdering him via cliff, I would leave signs and clues around to find the superior red wizard atop the nearby icy mountain promising the life of their desire. The trek alone would be enough to weed out anyone whose will was not strong enough. After finding me, they would be directed to sacrifice the thing they hold dearest. As it is the thing holding them back and preventing their growth. Then they would be put on a quest to finding their true selves, their true desire, their core, as it were. (This is a Jungian concept, the "innate true self" that is to be unveiled and developed)

I would then point them to the place which needs them, and their innate skill the most. They would embark on the final, and longest part of their quest. Where they would eventually cross paths with their desired person, who also was looking for them. In these moments, their fate would lie solely in their own hands. It would be entirely up to them to make or break their own futures.

The red wizard is merciful, you may try as many times as you wish. But, after you've left for your final quest, it will be impossible to find him again.

Something along those lines.
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>>69703709
>I have actually posted the pic once before!
Yeah! I remembered the picture but not what the post that went along with it was about. Centaur is the best turbie pet owner as usual, haha. I'd probably just stand there and stare at the sky in awe, until I get buried under a pile of turbies.

>I love this!!! ^o^ <3<3<3
I'm glad you do!

>That sounds great! UwU
Interesting! I suppose you care more about looking femmy than anything though, right? You wouldn't press the button if it turned you into a masculine woman?

>>69703736
> I have to take back a bit... In my post, I used gender more as a (rough) synonym for sex
Ah, I think it was a misunderstanding on my part. I do use "gender" kind of interchangeably with "sex" too, yet I still associate "feminine/masculine/androgynous" with both of them? Maybe I'm contributing to it being harder for gender-nonconforming people by thinking that way. Sorry, all of this stuff is pretty confusing for me, but I think I get what you were trying to say now?

>I think in an *ideal* society, testosterone doesn't exist and everyone is femmy
Yeah, this is what I was referencing! So I suppose you just care about how femmy everyone is, but not what parts they have down there?

> it's intriguing to see how similar or different we are~!
That's what I figured! But the increased sense of community is a good point I hadn't thought of. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure I'm an INFJ now, so I hope I didn't get your hopes up high for nothing!
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>>69703581
>>69703589
>>69703961
if you read these posts carefully enough, I'm sure you can find a hint of masculinity somewhere. probably. even sophie is manly compared to this nigger.
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>>69703990
Now now, Anon. You do know that flattery won't get you anything, right?
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>>69703990
Sophie's actually a very traditionally masculine person who just likes anime girls
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/v/ managed to have a better MBTI thread than this, and that's despite the "muh astrology" posters.
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>>69704139
Go post on /v/ then dummy
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>>Turbie's last post idk the number
>how do you apply mbti?
it's mostly a Si/Fi thing in myself. i use it to recognize how i differ from the norm and try to alter things slightly to see if i get better social results. it helps me recognize that i can alter my behavior to try to connect more effectively without it being related to who i am: it's just a communication method.

>>69701511
ISTP
i would like to be married, any type will work as long as they don't become frustrated by my behaviors.
i would kill the wizard with a sharp rock and take his magic, and make a kickass spell without any caveats. it won't have anything to do with true love, i'd give myself giant black bird wings that are also good for swimming.

>>69701747
why is wife awkward to say out loud?

>>69702579
none of these people are real. real people make posts that build an image but those posts don't represent a significant portion of a human being, they only represent the aspect of their mind that is capable of engaging the internet, then divided further down to only the sliver that is interested in mbti and psychology. that's believing you can learn everything about a pig's biology by eating a hot dog.
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is MBTI a viable tool to catalogue people in order to deal with them better?
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>>69704208
It can definitely help knowing what type somebody is in order to determine from where most of their psychological habits come from, what they will be more naturally responsive to, being patient with their inferior functions etc. There's a lot really.
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>>69703937
That's rad as fuck.
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... (>>69703736)


>>69695338
>please explain the flavours
What is there to explain? :O
I included only flavors that I had tried at that point and probably aren't too obscure in most parts of the world! ^_^;
As for the types,
>ESTP-A and ESFP-A got special flavors based on real dessert dishes (I'm not sure why I didn't use tutti frutti for either of them; perhaps I couldn't decide, wasn't sure if I had experienced it, thought it was confusing because it has many meanings, or thought it would be better for ENFJ-A but forgot about it once I got there?) OwO
>ISXJ-X got "basic" flavors because they're some of the most common types ^_^
>ESFJ-X types seem colorful, so I thought fruity flavors would suit them best <(^_^)>
>ENTP-X seems kind of colorful but not as fruity~ ^o^
>not sure why ISFP-X got the Neapolitans; perhaps the artist stereotype played a part in this, so they got multi-color ice cream? :3
>INTJ-T got triple chocolate because it's a special flavor and one of the best in my opinion (and I used to be an INTJ-T); it also reflects the complexity and versatility of the type~ UwU
>INFJ-A got wasabi because it's an obscure and interesting flavor and INFJ-A was arguably the rarest type at the time I made the pic UwU
>INFJ-T got ruby chocolate because it's rare and obscure and INFJ-T is one of the rarest types! But not only that! It got the flavor because it's cute, pink, sweet, fruity, exquisite (and perhaps femmy~) - like INFJ-T!!! UwU One more reason is that ruby chocolate is my favorite ice cream and my type is INFJ-T!!! *^_^* <3


>>69695367
UwU

>>69695378
You want to be an ESFP-A? :O
I wonder if cupcake ice cream is good... :3c

>>69695416
Awwwwwwwwwww~!!! *hugs you* I love you, too~! (>^_^)><(^_^<)


>>69695480
QwQ

>Alpha quadra
You're in the "Turbie is an INTP" or "Turbie is an ENTP" camp? :O

>Sometimes kindred for power couple.
Kindred? OwO


>>69695610
^.^;;;


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>>69701511
>Your type
ISTP that checks these threads twice a year
>Do you want to get married?
The older I get the less appealing the idea sounds to me, mainly because I know I'm not very available. But I haven't entirely sworn it off yet.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
In order of what I've meshed with the most, an ESTP, another ISTP, and -though this would probably be very toxic- an ENFP
>Wizard's curse
I don't see any reason to subject yourself to that kind of torment. Maybe if youre a sappy better to have loved and lost type but even then the love was all made up with magic anyway. No, I would not accept the offer.
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>>69685271
>My wallpaper used to be a hottie cosplaying the main girl
What's funny is that I love Free because there's practically no women in the show. It has a Final Fantasy 15 vibe, like tons of bro bonding and friendship.

>I've wondered for awhile if trouble filtering out external stimuli could be function related.
>Can you think of any reason why Free is the exception for you?
Hmm good question. I wonder if it has to do with multitasking. Maybe sensors are better at multitasking and selectively controlling their attention to stimuli?

Free is nice and breezy. The music is calm, the plot is predictable, the characters are cheery and positive, and the visual aesthetic is pleasing. It's like I'm floating on a cloud made of good vibes when I have it on in the background.

>Utada Hikaru
Dang, I only heard Simple and Clean before this... I like that song and I like this one. You just got another song stuck in my head lol. I still have Lay Your Hands On Me stuck in my head from last time. Geeez, that song gets better with every listen.
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>>69704208
>>69704286
Let me elaborate so we talk about MBTI a little more:

For instance, the introverted thinking type responds better to ideas born from universally valid concepts, less from an extrapolation made from observing facts but it's still Thinking so it would still generate a better response than an idea born from anything related to Feeling. That's what they like to play with and might give you very nuanced, well-thought and personal answers. Most likely they will be engaging you themselves now and find the interaction rewarding, not tiring in the slightest.

That's useful knowledge when you want a person of this type to get interested into whatever you are doing, if you start by feeling stuff or press for this kind of input("how do you feel about X", "is it a good to do X", asking them to describe a mood etc.), you will find them either unresponsive or giving you not so nuanced and impersonal answers. Also most likely you will stress them for requesting a constant use of the inferior.
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>>69703775
>>69703904
>big five
Well I have something for you.
>ENTP
>8w7
>gemini sun with aries rising
>big five is pic related
Yet funnily enough I am not a hyper chad nor do I like crowds.
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>>69704753
>if you start by feeling stuff or press for this kind of input("how do you feel about X", "is it a good to do X", asking them to describe a mood etc.), you will find them either unresponsive or giving you not so nuanced and impersonal answers
This shit is only a problem because "i dont know" isnt a socially acceptable answer. Imagine how easy it would be to just say that instead of having to navigate my emotion maze of pain every minute in a conversation, they just ask me over and over to give them an answer until i do. Being stuck with forceful feelers gets very miserable fast
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>>69695796
Aw, nice to see my OC in the OP! ^.^

>>Your type
INFJ-T!!! \(^_^)/
>>Do you believe in ghosts? Why?
N-not sure, maybe on some level... :'O
>>Have you ever had anything resembling a paranormal experience?
I guess... :3c At least once in my childhood, I saw a person who really wasn't there! :O In addition, I sometimes get deja-vu effect! And hunches or (often but not always intense) feelings when something good or bad is going to happen! Since my late childhood, I also have sometimes had dreams that predict the future, but I can't actually control it - the dreams occur when they do! ^.^; ( Apparently, some women on my mother's side of the family may have/had a gift for foretelling things from dreams or visions... I wonder if it's hereditary! :Oc ) I know paranormal beliefs are to some extent linked to personality traits (at least to intuition and maybe turbulence), but what about experiences? Do you need to be an intuitive or a turbie - or preferably both - to get them? OwO
>>What would you do if you died and were a ghost?
If I weren't confined to a small area, I'd probably travel and go to places I've never visited and observe the world around me! ^_^ Otherwise, I'd probably try to interact with the physical world for fun even if it took a tremendous amount of energy! In any case, maybe I'd enter people's dreams and make them funny for them? :3

>>69695884
You're an ISTP-T? :O

>>69696363
Sounds like an ISTP-T! UwU

>>69696887
>This makes me wonder, what if ghosts are real but can only be noticed by people who are attuned to them?
Yeah, makes sense! ^_^; ( I remember the ex-angel who may or may not have been a larp said 3 years ago that if you have enough points, you can choose when you incarnate whether to have an ability to connect with the paranormal! :'O )

>>69697297
>Go and watch all the scientists and leaders to see how our world will progress
Nice! ^.^


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>INarcissismTJ
>INeuroticismTP
Why is this such a common tendency?
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i wanna pet turbie-chan so bad
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>>69695697
>my link not included
Bad OP! Bad! :'(

>>your type?
INFJ-T!!! *^_^*
>>why do you do and like MBTI?
It's interesting! And fun! ^_^;
>>for how long have you been rigorously thinking about MBTI?
On one sitting? A day, maybe? :3c
>>what's the funniest mistype you see?
None! :)


>>69695741
Do you think Jung was an ISTP? :3
Was Jung a turbie? ^_^
BTW, I always imagined Counselor Jung (that's based on the real Jung) from Typology Academy was an INFJ-A... :3c

>>69695896
Can I have a summary? OwO;

>>69696255
Do you think Breeder is an ENTP-T? ^.^

>>69696494
Turbie, Sophie, INFJ-A? :O

>>69697002
Maybe the OwOs have a hidden message? Maybe they don't? UwU;

>>69697155
I'm much more an internalizer than an externalizer! ^w^

>>69697725
Who is Kyurius? OwO

>>69698082
UwU


Cont.
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>>69705580
Turbie is a seer spicy new lore!!!
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>>69705357
Would be great if everyone learned about the inferior functions in the very least.
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new poll

https://strawpoll.com/polls/GeZAN7xBVyV
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I don't understand
>INFJ
>used to be extremely introverted and solitary during my neet days, could stay alone for weeks no problem, incapable of tolerating group activities for more than a couple hours at most
>currently not a neet anymore, started becoming much more active
>work and go out with people regularly, found a few people whom I really enjoy being around and am having fun with
>just noticed that I start feeling lonely on my off days when I'm not seeing anyone
did I become extraverted or something, what is this
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>>69706212
It's not like introverts have 0 extraversion
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Honestly Centaur has been out-sexying Sophie as of late, Sophie is only sexy when she is confident in herself, otherwise she just comes across as a loser (and I want her to ruin my 'gasm, not cry in the corner) also Centaur is on the verge of getting his youthful glow back. So yeah, Centaur is winning rn tbch.
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And I haven't seen INTJfemboi for awhile, so no competition on that front
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>>69706212
Maybe it's because you're mistyped as an INFJ, and you're actually an Se user?
Also:
>Uses whom
>Still puts 'with' at the end of your sentence
Come on, anon, do better.
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>>69702579
>turbie
yes
>sophie
yes
>centaur
yes, if he doesn't lay in bed all day
>mosley
yes
>infj-a
probably not
>resident polack
same as centaur
>enfj-senpai
yes
>rxy
yes
>fugokin
probably not
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rank the regs from most productive to least productive

I'll start

1. Rxy
2. Chuck
3. Resident Polack
4. Breeder (as of late)
5. Sophie (Farmer Femboi)
6. Gus
7. Mosley
8. Centaur (as of late)
9. Turbie
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>>69706415
What does Rxy do that's productive?
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>>69706437
be ENTJ
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>>69706415
Isn't turbie the only one here with a real job?
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>>69706462
Ok, bump him up 4-6 then
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>>69706336
>Se
Seems very unlikely. What people tell me about me definitely hints towards high Fe
>do better
I'm ESL and slightly drunk
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>>69706212
Same type and situation, being a husk is comfy until u get 1 (one) (I) friend and transform from based schizoid into miserable bitchass avoidant
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>>69706511
>What people tell me about me
And what would that be?
>ESL
You get one free pass, don't let me catch you slipping again.
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>>69706504
thanks. I resent being not the least productive.
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introverts are just whipped extroverts
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>>69706594
I bet some unironically are.
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>>69706558
>what would that be
From the top of my head: withdrawn but socially observant, very easy to get along with, highly agreeable and "adaptable" to everyone, socially apt and good at getting people to do things for me, malleable and chameleon-like in most environments, unassertive and tend to go with the flow, good at making people feel comfortable
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>>69701511
>>Your type
INFP 4w5
>>Do you want to get married?
I don't really care to marry in a conventional way because i don't even want my family knowing my personal life much (yea, i know, not healthy), but I definitely wanna be with someone I love for the rest of my life and beyond. I'd be happy to marry someone if i didn't have to autistically stand in front of a crowd of family members i don't even know
>>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
At this point, i really don't know. I don't think i want a thinker type. I want someone that's very very lovey dovey and open and honest and feels in similar ways to me. They say you shouldn't date another person of your type but i dunno if i should agree with that. I want to be captured in our own little worlds together, snuggling up side by side without a care in the world
>You are walking through the woods one day when...
Hell no. My mom was a cheater. Cheaters are always gonna be on my shit list
>>69702579
I'd try my best to be the best husband i ever could
>>69702776
Why do i have to turn into an anime girl and not an anime boy? That's not fair
>>69703530
God F looks so cute
>>69706046
>1 vote to me
Aww that makes me happy. Thank you whoever did it
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>>69706794
>chubbychaser
eurgh
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>>69706699
Those are all generic feeler descriptions though, minus the withdrawn one. Which also seems to go against what you said in your first post.
Personally, it sounds more like you were a very unhealthy ExFx, and now you're coming out of your shell. That's just my two cents.
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>>69706807
This just in introverts can't feel lonely

And that's pretty clearly a Fe description no matter how you slice it
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>>69706806
What the fuck is eurgh? Is that a supportive or disagreeable noise?
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>>69706821
>introverts can't feel lonely
Anon what.
>And that's pretty clearly a Fe description no matter how you slice it
But that's right
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>>69706821
>This just in!
>Anon uses his own subjective impression to place words that didn't exist into my post!
Anyone can be lonely, don't be ignorant. And it was quite literally the most generic feeler description one could possibly give. The only one that was remotely close to Fe was the chameleon part, which is more indicative of ExFx, rather than the function Fe.
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>>69706885
>which is more indicative of ExFx, rather than the function Fe.
What do you think "Fe" is if not Feeling used along Extraversion
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>>69706853
>Anon what.
This
>it sounds more like you were a very unhealthy ExFx, and now you're coming out of your shell
Why? What about his recent developments would make it unlikely for him to be a normal ass IxFx type? Anyone using any kind of context would assume his desire to be around other people exludes the possibility of introversion, you retarded shitforbrains dunce
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>>69706896
The anon said he was an INFJ, INFJs use the function Fe. INFJs are not extraverts. I'm saying anon is an extraverted feeler as in:
ENFJ
ENFP
ESFP
ESFJ.
Not INFJ.
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>>69706919
Because he has the desire to be around people??
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>>69706914
You forgot to reply to the other guy too
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>>69706952
Realized who it was and decided it's not worth it, reply #1 is good enough for posts #1 and 2 anyhow
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>>69706931
No, because his introversion was very clearly coming from a place of unhealthiness (being a neet), and not his "normal state of being". Now that he's come out of that shell and is acting in the world, he's found that he's actually a LOT more extraverted than he originally believed. So much more so, that he's very clearly on the extraverted side.
Maybe he is an Fe user, I don't know. But it's fairly clear he's not an introvert. If you come home from work, and you first thought is "damn, I'm lonely and want to be around people." You're not an introvert. He's very clearly being energized from being around people, which is by definition, an extravert.
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>>69701531
QwQ

>>69701755
What if you document his offer (e.g. write it down or record audio/video)? Will he just magically know and erase all proof of your encounter with him? :O

>>69701951
>I would push the wizard off a cliff, steal his robes, dye them red and assume the position of the wizard myself giving people a much more reasonable deal. It would still come at a cost though.
Do assertives really? OwO

>>69702201
Don't be mean to Centaur even though I agree that his kids probably wouldn't turn out well! :(

>>69702311
I actually tried to post there 7 hours ago, but apparently I'm blocked! ;w;

>>69702370
Or becau-Se? OwO
:P

>>69702572
UwU

>>69702603
Interesting! Does your job require a lot of Ni and Te? Are you a turbie? :O

>>69702776
Self-answer! ^_^'
>>your type
INFJ-T!!! '^_^
>>if there were a button that turned you into a cute anime girl, would you press it
Yes! Yes! Yes! Without a doubt! \(^o^)/


>>69703530
Hmmmmmmmmm... :3c
>A - Tomboy
>B - Girly Girl
>C - Nerd
>D - Hooters Employee
>E - Shrinking Violet
>F - Big Eater
>G - Genki Girl
>H - Fragile Flower
>I - Mommy
>J - Academic Athlete
>K - Domme
>L - Tsundere
Did I get them right? :3


>>69703589
All INF types seem to be into obscure stuff! (and maybe ISFP-X; that's the hipster type, right?) ^_^

>Would it place me inside a fictional world of some kind?
If that's what you want! ^o^


>>69703595
Nope! INFP-T is! INFJ-T is less common! UwU

>>69703712
Tomato sauce goes well with pasta, but so does avocado! I haven't tried all of them together, though! ^_^;


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>>69707004
>So much more so, that he's very clearly on the extraverted side.
VERY debateable, not any industrious person is instantly extroverted and even people who are still more cognitively introverted can be excessively introverted when unhealthy, though that isn't your point. What he describes just sounds like not being a depressive burden on society.
>If you come home from work, and you first thought is "damn, I'm lonely and want to be around people." You're not an introvert.
Wild exaggeration
>He's very clearly being energized from being around people, which is by definition, an extravert.
This is social extroversion, different from Jungian extroversion, and also varies for most people by a lot depending on circumstances
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>>69707004
>He's very clearly being energized from being around people, which is by definition, an extravert.
Not in MBTI
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>>69701511
>Your type
infp
>Do you want to get married?
yeah
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
INTP or INFJ
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
extraverted feelers could probably marry anybody. everybody else is lowkey screwed
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
is this a personal question? umm, yeah sure i guess, at least i'd meet somebody and have a happy 10 years with them
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i hate being touched but i also yearn it
what types do this?
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>>69707075
>What he describes just sounds like not being a depressive burden on society.
I would agree with this. What I'm saying is that his depressed state is the reason he was testing an an introvert. Any type can "not be a depressive burden on society."
>Wild exaggeration
Not at all, it's exactly what it means to be extraverted.
Other people describe him as a feeler, he describes himself as an extravert. We put 2 and 2 together, we have an extraverted feeler. ENFJ, ENFP, ESFJ or ESFP.
>>69707077
>Not in MBTI
Yes, in MBTI.
Ever notice how all the tests ask some question like "after a long week of work, is a social outing how you like to unwind?" I wonder what axis that is testing... Hmmm, I wonder if it's the extraversion/introversion axis.. HMMMM.. Makes you think.
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>>69707150
Do you want to be a pretentious jung memer or a braindead 16p fag? Make up your fucking mind
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>>69707026
>What if you document his offer (e.g. write it down or record audio/video)? Will he just magically know and erase all proof of your encounter with him? :O
Nice out-of-the-box thinking, but this is exactly the kind of bullshit question that would have gotchas built in against that sort of thing. OP's intent is pretty clear here, the bad things are meant to be unavoidable. You ask me, I think the personal Jungian quest matchmaker service >>69703937 thought up is a way safer deal.
>>69706212
My guess is you were just used/desensitized to loneliness and being a reclusive NEET was your baseline, then you readjusted to having a social life as your new normal. You could also frame it as getting hooked on socializing.
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>>69707150
>Ever notice how all the tests ask some question like "after a long week of work, is a social outing how you like to unwind?
Yes, I noticed that tests are retarded
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>>69702776
INFJ
Of course

>>69703315
I will become the girl on the left.

>>69703627
Why do you think that?

>>69703937
>atop the nearby icy mountain
That's a cool setting, but plz don't freeze to death. Dumb Inferior Se users.

>After finding me, they would be directed to sacrifice the thing they hold dearest
That would be my parents. Sorry, Red Wizard-san. I don't think I can perform two human sacrifices just to find a wife.

>it will be impossible to find him again
What if I want to say thank you? :(

>>69706046
She isn't on the list, but I vote for INTP Anon's sexy cryptic mysterious emotional INFJ girlfriend.

>>69706279
What are you referring to? I only cry in the corner during fights, and the only one of those I've had recently was with Chuck, kind of (which only lasted one round before turning into a regular conversation).

Centaur love is based though, so it's good to see someone convert into a Centhead. Centy's young enough to have a youthful glow for a long time. I remember this one picture from Christmas 1986 where my dad was 38 years old, and he radiated with the most youthful glow and aura humanly possible. That's one handsome nigger.

>>69706212
It's possible that spending excessive amounts of time alone has given you extroverted energy to burn, and that with time you'll return to normalcy and no longer feel lonely as easily from time spent alone.

>>69706462
Working for a dairy business that sells our milk in stores under our own label is certainly a real job, and ENFJ-senpai is not only employed but overworked. The others we don't know much about their personal circumstances, but they're normie enough to have lines of work.

>>69706794
I think "opposites attract" is kind of a meme honestly. I'm only rarely attracted to Thinkers, I want someone full of emotion.

>>69706828
Disagreeable :P

>>69707026
>Will he just magically know and erase all proof of your encounter with him
Yep, Blue Wizard is unstoppable (by anyone except INFJ-A).
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>>69707167
He's trolling. There isn't even anything Jungian about him, if not for the fact he talks about functions unlike 16p.
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>>69707026
I'm not nearly mean enough to dicktaur
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>>69707167
Do you think anon arrived at the conclusion that he was an INFJ by reading Jung, or by testing on 16P/Saki?
I never claimed to be a Jungian purist, he's just the best. I'd say I'm 80% Jungian and 20% "mbti".
>>69707173
That's a very simple baseline for how you test introversion or extraversion. Introverts don't want to spend their time in social settings, that's a drain, even for INFJs who use Fe.
>>69707189
>Sorry, Red Wizard-san. I don't think I can perform two human sacrifices just to find a wife.
No, no, you don't have to literally sacrifice them. It could be a metaphorical sacrifice, as in you will no longer be able to see them. You sacrifice the relationship in order to advance yourself and attain your life goals. I'm sure that's exactly what they'd want for you, for you to have the best life.
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>>69707223
Fuck you retard, centaur supremacy
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>>69707228
>Introverts don't want to spend their time in social settings, that's a drain, even for INFJs who use Fe.
You claim to be 80% Jung and 20% MBTI, yet use a definition for introversion that is neither?
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>>69707228
Introversion is a tendency dumbass, sometimes people who are generally exhausted by external stimuli can find themselves rejuvenated by it. It's not hard to comprehend.
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>>69707266
Also wanted to add: a major difference between the definitions is that OG introversion wouldn't even consider a social interaction to be tiring unless it requires too much focus on external stimuli. If it goes at his own pace then it doesn't drain him at all.
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... (>>69707026)


>>69703775
>Toreador/Silent Strider/Akashic Brother/Eshu
What? :3

>>69703898
Interesting! ^_^;;;

>>69703937
What is the innate self? XXX(X(-X))? What Mistype Investigator says is your real type? Something else? :O


>>69703961
>Centaur is the best turbie pet owner as usual, haha.
UwU
>I'd probably just stand there and stare at the sky in awe, until I get buried under a pile of turbies.
OwO

>I suppose you care more about looking femmy than anything though, right?
It's not just about looks! What I would sound like and what kind of a personality I would have matter as well! *^_^*

>You wouldn't press the button if it turned you into a masculine woman?
No! *^.^* :3

>Sorry, all of this stuff is pretty confusing for me
I-it's okay! Sometimes I get confused too! ^.^

>So I suppose you just care about how femmy everyone is, but not what parts they have down there?
Y-yeah! ^w^;;;

>Unfortunately, I'm not so sure I'm an INFJ now, so I hope I didn't get your hopes up high for nothing!
;w;


>>69704139
I actually wrote a post about MBTI and astrology! Even included the 16p/Zodiac pic! But it didn't get through! :( <\3 :( </3 :(

>>69704189
>Si/Fi thing
You use your shadow functions, and only introverted functions? Interesting... :Oc

>>69704418
There's something about those uniforms that I really like~! :O

>>69705052
Y-your results look more like ENTJ-A's! ^.^;;;

>>69705614
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!! (>^_^)><(^_^<)
:3 <3 :3 <3 :3


>>69705868
>Turbie is a seer
Y-you... actually read my post? OwO

I posted a recent dream I had with possible paranormal elements (might have been just a coincidence, but the experience felt exceptionally real): >>69694146! :O


>>69706212
Maybe you did become an extrovert, or perhaps you're just temporarily feeling energetic (due to reserves or a new situation)? ^_^;


To be continued...
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>>69706279
Sophie is sexy and heartwarming and I still love her. Her vulnerabilities make her who she is, she doesn't have to be a stacy
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>>69707263
I use my own definition which is based on a mixture of Jung and MBTI. I've said it a bunch, you won't ever catch me parroting someone else's work. It's one of the primary reasons my main response is "Read Jung".
>>69707266
Introversion is a tendency towards "aloneness", for lack of a better term, due to being exhausted by social interaction (AKA the external world).
Extraversion is a tendency towards "group settings", due to being exhausted by aloneness.

Anon was a neet, and was exhausted by his neet-ness. So now that anon has entered the social world, he has found that he is actually quite energized by social interaction. Anon is an extravert. It's very simple. He's a super clear example of an unhealthy person who believed they were an introvert, who turned their life around, and found they're actually very extraverted.
>>69707330
>What is the innate self? XXX(X(-X))?
The innate self has no type, it's not really a personality in that regard. It's more of an amalgamation of all of the parts of one's self. Jung refers to it as the "innate potential", it has a lot to do with the process of individuation, which is bringing all of the parts into one cohesive whole functioning unit.
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>Your type
INTP
>Do you want to get married?
not particularly
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
don't know don't care
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
absolutely fucking not
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>>69707442
So you are immensely retarded and use vagueries to excuse the complete lack of consistency across your garbage takes?
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>>69707442
afaik introversion/extroversion is a measure of how sensitive your nervous system is to external stimuli. this makes introverts trend towards preferring smaller groups in shorter doses, but an introvert can be energized by social interaction so long as they don't cross that threshold. an extrovert can be energized by a 6 hour party of 50 people whereas introverts would hate that, but an introvert might be energized by a 30 minute one-on-one conversation.
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...continuation of >>69707330!


>>69706279
It is the time of the year Sophie seems to traditionally have become more turbulent, but on the other hand, he has overall become *less* turbulent since 2018! Maybe someday he will be the queen of /mbti/! :O

>>69706415
I am quite productive at work, though, even though I've pretty much changed from a hyper-competent sidekick to the ghost that puts in the bare minimum (because I learned that putting in the extra effort won't pay off but instead takes a toll on my health)! Also! I contribute a lot to these threads! \(^_^)/

>>69706437
She's an ENTJ-A and I think she's the leader of an HR department or something like that! ^_^7

>>69706462
UwU

>>69706594
I remember an extrovert who was a whipped introvert! ^_^;

>>69706794
Would you press the button if it turned you into an anime boy? :3

>>69707135
INXX-T? :O

>>69707189
>Centaur love is based though
This! \(^_^)/

>>69707223
:(

>>69707231
Yay! ^_^

>>69707442
Isn't XXXX-X basically "no type" or "every type simultaneously"? :3c


Goodnight! (>^_^)><(^_^<)
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>>69707442
>you won't ever catch me parroting someone else's work. It's one of the primary reasons my main response is "Read Jung".
Is this not contradictory? This just means you parrot his takes without the effort of actually quoting him, or bothering to relate it to the argument at all judging by your numerous other horrible, poorly informed posts
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>>69707512
What's that? I can't hear you over your blatant retardation, sorry.
>>69707522
>but an introvert can be energized by social interaction so long as they don't cross that threshold
I'm not saying that introverts are never energized by social interaction. What I said specifically, was if you come home from work, and your first thought is "damn, I'm lonely and want to be around people." that you're an extravert.
I say this because most jobs require you to have social contact, and most jobs also last around 8 hours. It's entirely possible that anon works in social isolation, and that's why he wants to be around his friends afterwards. I don't believe that to be the case though. Although, it's pure speculation/assumption based on "the average job".
>>69707546
>Is this not contradictory?
No? If I read Jung, then form my own opinions in my own words, based on his work; how am I parroting Jung?
Occasionally I'll drop a phrase of his like "individuation" so people know where to look to find what I'm referring to. But, by no means am I parroting him.
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which regular(s) display the most ni?
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>>69707596
Then "read Jung" is not an effective rebuttal in any way as it won't help anyone understand your own imaginary, circumstance-based, entirely undefined, exists solely to win arguments meme system ergo you say it entirely to be insufferable and should fuck off already
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>>69707656
I care not what is "effective" by your measures. Read Jung and find the answers for yourself.
If someone is having a difficult time understanding what I'm saying, they're more than welcome to ask questions for me to elaborate on. If your response to not understanding is to instantly assert that I'm stupid, due to your lack of understand, I'm going to dismiss you and just tell you to read Jung.
So, read Jung.
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>>69707596
re extraversion
That's a good point, will think it over
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>>69707718
So your solution to people disagreeing with your retardation is to implore them to disagree with your retardation in a more personalized manner? How do you connect idea 1 and 2? The more time I spend entertaining your bullshit the more I realize that you really do just exist to be fucking annoying. Nothing you say has any substance, it's all flimsy as shit. Fuck off or at least be less overtly obnoxious and stupid
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>>69707776
>Spends the thread being a massive troll
>Implies I'm a troll
Oh the irony.
Try doing something productive, like reading Jung.
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Any INTP fembois here interested in 8w7 ENTJ?
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>>69707623
1. Turbie 100
2. INFJ-A 99
3. Rxy 97
4. INTJayy 95
5. India November 92
6. INTJfemboi 91
7. ENFJ-senpai 90
8. Sophie 85
9. Breeder 80
10. Prince 75
11. Centaur 55
12. Mosley 50
13. Mr. Bump 0
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>>69707856
Same as this but in reverse
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>>69707856
Explain your choices now
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rank the regulars from most flirty to least flirty (turbie is obviously most flirty)
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>Try to talk about MBTI
>A few very angry anons with massive and fragile egos start hurling around petty insults at anyone they disagree with
>Derailing any potential discussion

And people wonder why the quality of these threads has declined.
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>>69708223
what mbti stuff would you like to discuss shinobanon?
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>>69708251
Well, nothing now, it's getting too close to my bed time to engage in a new conversation. I'll probably just sit and meditate on the next steps I'll be taking in my life, as that's my new pre-bedtime routine.
I was enjoying the extraversion conversation before the petty angry anons ruined it, though. Maybe someone else can pick up that torch and keep the discussion alive. Or maybe someone else has an idea that's related tertiarily, it's always nice to read other people's opinions on such topics.
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>>69701511
Nice data mining thread fag
>Your type
INTP
>Do you want to get married?
Marriage is a scam unless you sign a prenup where your wife doesn't get any of your shit after getting divorced because there's a 50% chance that's what's going to happen
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Preferably a woman who shares my same interests and has a similar personality to mine so we don't become tired of each other
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Like I said, people who share goals and are passionate about the same things are more likely to remain together in the long run
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
Fuck no, I'd become emotionally devastated for the rest of my life in exchange for being the happiest I've ever been for a couple of years, the downsides heavily outweigh the benefits
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>>69707835
INTP here, kill yourself faggot
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>>69707835
INTP here, live yourself faggot
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>>69707835
Fake ENTJ you never beg for attention girls come to you bro
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>>69708564
pic related moment
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what types are more likely to become alcoholic drug-addicts?
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>>69708559
>>69708564
literally pic related

uhhh yeah
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>>69708626
I'd guess Se types, they're the most inclined towards interest in chasing down things like drug highs.
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>>69708626
the ones that had a shitty upbringing
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>>69707330
>shadow/introversion
my psyche is very manually operated. i don't think i have natural behavioral patterns to follow, so when i choose things, it can be abnormal.
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>>69705580
>you can choose when you incarnate whether to have an ability to connect with the paranormal! :'O
I guess I didn't choose this for some reason when I was being born. Is there some tradeoff to it?

>>69707026
>Did I get them right? :3
Yeah, I think I'd agree with most of them.
>Hooters Employee
LEL. Funny but accurate.
>Shrinking Violet
Wow, that's a really neat term I didn't know until now.

>All INF types seem to be into obscure stuff! (and maybe ISFP-X; that's the hipster type, right?) ^_^
That does seem to be the case, and with IxFPs it makes sense for them to be like that simply because Fi likes weird stuff, but I wonder why INFJs can be like that too given that they don't have Fi.

>If that's what you want! ^o^
Then I'll definitely press it! It'd be amazing to be spirited away to some anime world.

>>69707330
>It's not just about looks! What I would sound like and what kind of a personality I would have matter as well! *^_^*
Ah, you're right, of course those things are important too! I should have worded it differently.

>Y-yeah! ^w^;;;
I see. I kind of like that for some reason, it seems rather pure and nonjudgmental somehow. I wish I could view people in a more unfiltered way like that, without constantly slapping labels on them.

>;w;
:-{

Hope I didn't miss anything, my browser crashed and I lost the (You)s.
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>>69708582
I'm not begging for girls stupid faggot
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>>69708223
>>69708406
bby don't let then hurt you you're better than them...
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>>69708223
>>69708406
bby fuckig kill yourself already...
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>>69708223
>>69708406
bby fucking live yourself already...
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You guys give INFJ-A way too hard of a time. He is a mix of good and bad, not all bad. Sometimes he has terrible opinions. Others he's a sweet and intelligent person.
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>force self to go to group exercise thing
>difficult bc of anxiety
>do some sparring
>do poorly
>instructor comes over and does a bit of teaching
>apologize
>he stares and me and asks why im apologizing
>have to try hard to not start crying
why is being an INTP so fucking shitty
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>>69710475
because we can be overpowered when not burdened with these feelings
come now anon
we can overcome them together
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>Your type
INFP
>Do you want to get married?
YES!!
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
i feel like Exxx is best, maybe ExFx
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
IxTx's.. fucking cunts..
>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
no! ill become a nun if i knew this was ever in my fate. i'm heavily religious anyways i only need God to love me if so
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>>69703356
What functions do you identify the most?
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What the fuck's up with that idea of "being the better man" or whatever?

If a motherfucker tries to destroy or humiliate you through any means, whether underhanded or not, it's only fair you return the favor. It doesn't even need to be violent or at the same level but just let others know what the retard did and hopefully ruin their reputation in the process. And eye for an eye sounds better than just forgiving whoever's the faggot who plucked yours to begin with.
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>>69701511
>Your type
INTJ
>Do you want to get married?
No, not really
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
ISTJs and ISFJs seem the most fit for marriage to me. Especially ISTJs.
>Wizard question
Was this truly necessary?
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>>69701511
>>Your type
enfj
>>Do you want to get married?
yes of course
>>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
idk
>>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
dont really know
>>You are walking through the woods one day when you come across an 87 year old wizard with a long white beard, clad in dark blue robes. He makes you an offer. You will meet the person in the world most perfect for you, both physically and mentally, and you will get married Christmas 2022. You could never love another human being more than you love this person. However, on Christmas morning 2032, they will tell you they've recently fallen in love with someone else (this cannot be prevented because the wizard will wipe your memory of this caveat). They will spend three years going back and forth on whether they want to stay or leave, cheating on you all the while, and ultimately leave you for the other person on Christmas Day 2035. The wizard's magic prevents you from ending the relationship, from falling in love with someone else, from reducing your feelings for your partner, or from escaping this three year period in any way. Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
no. i dont believe perfection exists and i get along with a lot of people. i thought i dont like freckles or blonde hair or brown eyes, but the only girls i have had crushes on was a blonde and a brunette with brown eyes and freckles.
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>>69706807
>>69706885
>Those are all generic feeler descriptions
No, I know several xNFPs and they're not like this at all.
"Chameleon" is the most stereotypical giveaway for INFJ, too. I would assume it would be possible for me to be ENFJ but I lack the charisma usually associated with Fe dom people.
>>69707004
>his introversion was very clearly coming from a place of unhealthiness (being a neet), and not his "normal state of being".
This isn't really true either unless "unhealthiness" can be one's normal state of being since early childhood, which seems far fetched.
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>>69703775
But what's your Sociotype and Temperament? Don't tell me that you haven't autistically Typemaxxed?

If you know your MBTI, Enneatype (and wing) and Tritype, you might as well go all the way.
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>>69710457
He's the most anti-intellectual poster around, to the point I'm not even sure if he's trolling or genuinely braindead.

Gives me the impression of somebody who grabs the first concept/definition he finds on Google and thinks he has understood everything.
Then he name drops Jung, unironically thinking anyone is convinced by only hearing his name when he is blatantly contradicting it.
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>Your type
ISTP
>Do you want to get married?
Sure eventually
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
I don't know what INFJ women are like but it would probably be pretty cool to be with one since that's the personality type of my best friend and he's a really interesting person. Otherwise, another ISTP because they would get me more.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Most is maybe ENFP, least maybe INTP or INTJ?
>autism story
Why would I want to be with someone who I know is going to leave me? No thanks, this question is retarded
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>>69712457
Very clearly an IEI Melancholic judging by his other typologies, get your head in the fuckin game
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I wanna know what it is about INFJ-A's astrological placements that gets people so fired up ITT
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>>69712698
Enneagram IVs are important here.

sp4 would make Phlegdom or MelPhelg/PhlegMel a likelihood. So and Sx4s are naturally less Phlegmatic.
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>>69712813
451 is almost definitely sp4, and sp4 is not very phlegmatic at all to be honest. so4 would probably be the most phlegmatic
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>>69712866
I'd say so4s are the least likely to be Phlegmatic. They're the most shame/guilt-ridden subtype and they like to show it.

sp4s on the other hand like to appear emotionally mature and don't overthink as much as the other subtypes.
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>>69712898
But also the most malleable and soft, phlegmatic doesnt mean mature or happy so much as passive and gentle. sp4 have the highest demands on themselves, resulting in mental/emotional repression and rigidity. They overthink it a lot, just pretend very hard not to
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>>69712984
Good point. I've read that sp4s appear as either E1 (basically as you've described) or E7 depending on their coping mechanism, and E1 is undoubtedly more melancholic than E7.
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>>69707189
>I want someone full of emotion.
Same here. I want to recognize the wonder and passion in someone. It doesn't have to be exactly like me, just familiar. To look at someone and say "I get that."
>>69707543
>Would you press the button if it turned you into an anime boy? :3
Hell yea, why not? Maybe get a girl swooning over me
>>69710475
Bro i feel that so much i hate it. Literally cannot function in society. I don't know how people can. Some just aren't meant for this, but those that are just can't understand that
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>>69710475
fuck man I felt that, shit sucks
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>>69701511
extroverts are NPCS
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>>69713107
Ne doms aren't NPCs.
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>>69713129
Meanwhile, actual Ne-doms: "Lol, monke poke doggo, so randumb! I love Reddit!"
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>>69713413
I suspect your hatred for Reddit is stronger than your desire to identify (if possible) what in Jungian terms, cognitively qualifies as NPC?
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>>69713107
Thats not very nice anon cmon
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>>69713454
There is no such a thing in Jung, if anything you can say the extraverted feeling type might come across as the NPC meme. But he specifies it's only apparently.
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>>69713454
I like the other anon's diagnosis of extraverts being NPC's desu. Extraversion correlates negatively with introspection (obviously, since te two are opposed: attention focused outward vs attention focused inward). Even ENFJ's and ENTJ's, who tend to be successful and intelligent people, tend not to know themselves very well, and usually hold some retarded and illogical convictions simply because they never sat down to consider where they got them.

"Extraverts are NPC's" is an elegant statement for its simplicity and brevity, and it holds mostly true.

We can further dissect the NPC question by adding to our analysis the sensing-intuition dichotomy, or enneagram or other personality models, or a few socionics dichotomies here or there. But that doesn't change the fact that clearly extraversion-introversion is one of the - if not the - most relevant factors in determining NPC-ness.

If you're an extravert and do not consider youself an NPC, you can be proud of yourself: you beat the odds.
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>>69713527
I've been mulling this over and I agree. "NPC" traits are better identified in Typology models that look at attachment/detachment traits. I.e. The enneagram.

For example. An INTP so6 (possible combo) would look NPC-like due to the strict adherence to an ideological authority, whereas an INTP sp5 would be more self-serving and detached.
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>>69713569
I still disagree. ESTP sx8s are very anti-authority, despite being extraverts.
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>>69713754
What's authority gotta do with shit though? I thought being a playable character had more to do with individualized thought and awareness more than how many rules you break in self interest
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>>69713754
If your case is simply NPC = anti-authority, then yes. But an atheist is also 'anti-authority' and I've seen a lot of atheist NPC's. I also suspect a lot of enneagram 8s in SJW circles - I'm not willing to not call them NPC's.
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>>69713778
Exactly. If there's anything (other than extraversion) that the NPC-question can be reduced to, it's enneagram 5 if you ask me. Enneagram 5: "Why don't other people think before they act? Why aren't other people more like me?" And then you hit a critical mass of 5s on a Mongolian basket weaving forum and the NPC meme is born.
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(>^_^)><(^_^<)


>>69707623
INFJ-T!!! ^_^'
Any INXJ-X regular, maybe? :3

>>69707828
Haha! ^_^

>>69707856
UwU

>>69708208
>turbie is obviously most flirty
OwO

>>69708626
Turbies because turbulence is linked to high sensitivity which in turn is linked to risk for alcoholism! Se doms crave experiences, but so do stressed-out Se infs - and turbies are less resistant to stress than assertives! Maybe Ne doms are also at risk because of their thrill-seeking, possible ADHD (which seems to be more common in these types than in others and is linked to alcoholism through HSP genes), and Se demon! Feeling types are on average more feminine than thinking types, and femininity seems to protect slightly from alcoholism and many other addictions (low exposure to prenatal testosterone)! I'd say EXTP-T and INTJ-T are the most likely types to become "alcoholic drug-addicts"! ;.;

>>69708750
This! Combined with the HSP genes (and high testosterone)! :'3


To be continued...
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Why did you all turn on Breeder? Only a couple of months ago, everyone would be like "hey Breeder good to see you" whenever he posted
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>>69713843
>"Why don't other people think before they act? Why aren't other people more like me?"
This is literally 6 behavior, so is creating a group of "outsiders"/scapegoats to vent your frustrations on and declare responsible for everything wrong and oppressive in your life. Though then again 5 is very, very similar to 6 and also distrusts and distances itself, except less discriminately and in a more isolated way that makes cliques of 5s very hard to form except in shitholes like this I suppose
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>>69707623
INFJ-A, Sophie, India November, and Breeder are the users who show Ni the most often
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>>69713935
Understanding people and the world through your own familiar framework is not limited to enneagram 6 obviously. All people tend to assume that others think (sort of) like them until proven wrong - because it's it's the only thing they know. And we tend to keep making the mistake of underestimating the differences between ourselves and others.

In the case of enneagram 5, the free thinker, he assumes that all people should want to be free thinkers because it's the only way of being he knows. So there has to be something wrong with people who aren't: probably NPC's.
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>>69713569
The issue is assuming that introverts cannot be NPCs, for much it's more likely that it will be extraverts.
That simply happens because one is more likely to avoid introspection then the other, but it absolutely doesn't mean all introverts are introspective.

Much like you can explore an external reality both superficially or in-depth, the same can be said about the inner one. All introversion tells you is which one has more determining power for somebody, not how much critical thinking they put into it.
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>>69711916
>No, I know several xNFPs and they're not like this at all.
I'm not even sure how you can say this. I know a few ENFP males, one whom I used to hang around quite often when he threw parties. These are the exact qualities he, and other extraverted feelers display. They're hallmarks of all feelers, both introverted and extraverted.
If the xNFPs you know don't have any of these qualities, they're likely not feelers at all.
(Minus the socially withdrawn one)

>Agreeable/easy to get along with
Literally, by definition, what it means to be high in the feeling axis. People who are disagreeable (typically males) fall in the thinking category, and people who are agreeable (typically females) fall in the feeling category. This is the overlap of the Big5 and MBTI.
>Socially apt, and good at getting people to do things
This is another trait of agreeableness mixed with extraversion.
>malleable and chameleon-like
Again, another hallmark of a person who is high on the feeling axis mixed with extraversion. You would almost never see an INTP, or an ENTJ behaving like this, for example. This is most evident in Fe users both of the introverted and extraverted nature, but also very applicable to extraverted feelers, ENFP for example.
>tend to go with the flow
Another hallmark of an extraverted feeler.
>good at making people feel comfortable
All feelers do this.

If you're saying you know multiple ENFPs who exhibit zero of these traits, you're likely not dealing with ENFPs.

>can be one's normal state of being since early childhood
Unhealthiness is never a normal state. You are not born in that state. It is learned behavior, it's something you can always overcome.
It is a state that can become normal, in the sense that anything can become "normal". You become used to it, and become complacent. Content in your discomfort, as it were.
>>69712764
>astrological placements
Wut dat mean?
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Mmmmmmmmmmm... I want to "swim" in a pool that's filled with cute, soft, thin, and almost unclothed anime girls (male) instead of water~! :3 ^_^


>>69709225
>Is there some tradeoff to it?
The ex-angel said the ability costs a very high amount of points, so many that you probably need a few reruns of life to buy it! :O

>I wonder why INFJs can be like that too given that they don't have Fi.
It's probably high Ni! I think INTJs also have interest in obscure stuff, but maybe their Te often directs their interests to something else than paranormal, mystical, or art(ist)/subculture/habit you've never heard of! ^_^

>Then I'll definitely press it!
UwU

>Hope I didn't miss anything, my browser crashed and I lost the (You)s.
QwQ That's happened to me a few times, and once or twice, the post disappeared when I hit Post and never appeared in the thread! :(


>>69710457
This! ^_^

>>69711758
What types were the girls? :3

>>69712764
Me, too~! Is he a Lilith11? Scorpio Moon? Someone with plenty of difficult aspects (square, grand cross, yod, opposition)? :O

>>69712984
Do sp6s overthink a lot stereotypically? ^.^;;;

>>69713046
>Hell yea, why not?
Yay! ^_^

>>69713107
What about introverts who become extroverts or vice versa? '^.^

>>69713864
I still like Breeder, but Breeder doesn't like me! :(

>>69714025
If most people are NPCs, then that means there has to be introverted NPCs! :3c

>>69714604
>Wut dat mean?
Look at your natal chart! ^o^
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>>69714604
>malleable
No
>chameleon-like
You know it
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>>69711642
As it often happens, history contorts good principles into weakness for the benefit of evil men.

'Being the better man' is not about turning the other cheek. It's about maintaining your composure and humiliating your opponent without lowering yourself to his level. As an example; say you're fighting someone, and they pull a dirty move. If you pull a dirty move back, that's fine; it's neutral. If you be the better man, fight fair, and still kick his ass, now you've beaten him physically and humiliated him socially, and anyone looking on will have a higher opinion of you.
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>>69714611
>Look at your natal chart! ^o^
Oh, okay. I don't really know anything about Astrology, so I don't know what any of this stuff means.
>>69714623
>No
Precisely, that's a feeling trait.
>You know it
And that's the trait of extraversion, which also has a bit of overlap with feeling. But mostly it's extraversion.
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>>69714604
>Literally, by definition, what it means to be high in the feeling axis.
Not quite but there is certainly a correlation.
Like, the most "agreeable"(in Big5 terms) person I know is properly typed as ENTP.
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>>69714654
I was brought up to feel absolutely nothing, can that be reversed at all?
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>>69713107
I'd say the NPCs of this system are Si users.
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>>69714686
Only if you use the shitty definition that has nothing to do with the original one.
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>broke as shit and i have a bill coming in soon
>out of nowhere i remembered a small savings account i had money automatically being put into
holy shit i can't believe i passively did something smart for once
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>>69714742
>only one year
Try more than five. At least it has been a good gateway drug for Jungian psychology.
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bbq firepit party went well. friends' kid is a lot of work tho. Undisciplined. Was getting into so much trouble ^___^ had him tend the garden with a water gun distraction. My neighbors joined fire which was comfy. They're a nice old couple and i've never been exposed to lasting marriages so I like hanging out with them + they're kinda like pseudo aunt and uncle grandparents. We had s'mores n i made one for "aunt granny" (i don't call them this i'm just stuck in my own weave) and it was nice being useful
Ate too many marshmallows after all tho lel; unfortunately not my sweetie's gooey toested marshmallow footpussy :v

also
>less than a week til im balls deep
lend me nofap engy

>>69694776
>Mars dominants
i have bad news lol
https://youtu.be/nRr-FVhpxO4
However, my mother is not my girlfriend.
nor is my argumentative Feeler buddy, but that's sorta different, but still the same in that we argue over the premise, which causes sweeping micro and macro focusing to get to the core passions we're attached to behind the scenes, which no logic will sway

>>69696029 >>69704482
>tons of bro bonding and friendship
Mm, yea, there's a vacuumed purity to that kind of content at times that is tranquil, isolated in its comfy niche (swimming, in this case)

>Maybe sensors are better at multitasking and selectively controlling their attention to stimuli?
idk.. cos i also know 2 presumed Sensors from this thread who's control falls to irritation, but maybe they have selective control outside those triggers

Breezy such nice descriptor

>only Simple and Clean
Check out Sanctuary from Kingdom Hearts 2 too. The song she did for the third I'm iffy on cos it has that skrillex justin bieber-y euro whistle stuff. idk if that's an accurate description but i find that v i b e tacky and tryhard. It starts great tho
The ones she did for Eva are lovely

https://youtu.be/0Uhh62MUEic
mystery rec:
https://youtu.be/bYPcgCtdP5A

>>69697735
how is she a femme fatale?
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>>69714679
>Like, the most "agreeable"(in Big5 terms) person I know is properly typed as ENTP.
This is fairly easily explained by their function stack Ne-Ti-Fe-Si. Their feeling/thinking axis is fairly undifferentiated. ENTPs are more agreeable than say an ENTJ, but less agreeable than an INFP. An easier way to word that is something like "ENTPs are 60% thinkers and 40% feelers."

I have an ENTP friend whom I've known my entire life, literally since we were both a few months old. He's not the most agreeable person I know, but he's very agreeable by thinker standards. I think most ENTPs are like that, as well. Unless you try their patience.
>>69714685
>can that be reversed at all?
You can change anything you want about yourself, the only determining factor is if you're willing to make the sacrifices in order to do so. I can't give you a step-by-step process, because I don't know you like that, but it's most certainly possible.
>>69714686
Based. Si users are literally the most NPC-like.
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>>69713852
i just realized why you call yourself turbie
i am so slow
what types show this kind of slowness?
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>>69714025
No issues with this statement.
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>>69714686
So that makes you one of the NPCs.
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>>69714604
>also very applicable to extraverted feelers, ENFP for example.
I don't think you know any xNFPs, or any high Fi users. Most of my family have high Fi and interacting with them comforts me in the idea that your interpretation isn't right
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>>69715187
Agreed, even if for an entirely different reason. He is trying to hard to force Big5 shit into MBTI, for how much I can agree that there is a correlation between the "Agreeableness" dimension and feeling types.

In reality it's more complex than that, for instance ENTP can be highly agreeable not because they make a good use of the Feeling function(for the most part these guys are faking it because it works, hardly express any nuanced, "differentiated" feeling), but because they tend to be non-judgemental/interested in exploring everyone's perspective as a valid possibility thanks to the combo of intuition and extraversion.
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>>69715254
>He is trying to hard to force Big5 shit into MBTI
Guess what else does that. Truly a 16p nig at his core.
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sophie is pure evil.
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>>69715187
The most notable ENFP I know is a gay guy named Johnny who lives fairly close to me. He would throw parties in his garage, everyone would go over there, smoke copious amounts of weed, play beer pong and watch reruns of whatever TV show, and just hang out. I've shared some stories here about parties that he threw that went awry.
He's the most obvious male ENFP I've ever met. He would listen to anyone who wanted to vent, he would try and make people feel better if they were having a bad day. ENFPs care a lot for the people who are around them, and try to comfort those who they care for. As do most extraverted feelers.
This nonsense meme that only Fe types try and comfort people is asinine. ALL feelers do this, even INFP or ISFP, just to a lesser degree.
>>69715254
>In reality it's more complex than that
I didn't say that it was the entire reason. It's a large part of it though. Their Ne usages obviously plays a role in their agreeableness.
>but because they tend to be non-judgemental/interested in exploring everyone's perspective as a valid possibility thanks to the combo of intuition and extraversion.
This would also say that ENFPs are more agreeable than ENTPs. Because they are also Ne doms, and they're more geared towards the feeling axis. Thanks for inadvertently proving the point I was trying to make.
Feelers are on average more agreeable than thinkers. That's how it works, if you disagree with that, you're disagreeing with the entire system, including Jung.
>He is trying to hard to force Big5 shit into MBTI
Jung himself defines the feeling function with agreeableness.
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>>69715419
did u fug johnny
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>>69715503
No, but he would try to fug everyone whenever he got really drunk/high. A few of the "straight" guys had sex with him, and then everyone would roast them about it. Good times.
I have some old messages from him trying to get my dicpics. Pretty funny stuff, I miss hanging out over there.
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>>69715275
It's been years and I still smile whenever I skim this one.
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johnny is the sexiest regul
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>>69715419
My mom is an INFP and she's everyone's emotional sponge/shoulder to cry on, so I'm aware of this. But there are huge differences in the way Fi and Fe users see the world and behave.
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>>69715596
Underrated post make me kek
>>69715620
>My mom is an INFP and she's everyone's emotional sponge/shoulder to cry on
Thank you, anon. That's exactly the shit I'm talking about. Feelers will support and comfort the people around them.
>But there are huge differences in the way Fi and Fe users see the world and behave.
Without a shadow of a doubt. Fe users and Fi users will comfort their people in different ways, for example. They both have different conceptualizations of what it means to comfort someone. The specific actions they take may be different, but their goal is the same. Which is to make you feel better, or feel heard, or whatever.
Beyond that, Fe and Fi have different conceptualizations of what "their people" are, or more simply, "who is deserving of my comforting nature".
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>>69715749
Yes that's my point. If you're the guy who originally said I might not be an Fe user, I disagreed because comparing the way I do things with the Fi users in my life makes it very obvious that there are some fundamental differences there. I "instinctively" get an ESTP friend's way of presenting themselves and interacting with others, not because I act identically but because it feels like they're basing their relationships on the same fundamental assumptions I base mine on, while for INFPs (which are supposed to be feelers like myself) I understand what they're doing but I could never behave identically. I didn't put it very aptly but you probably get what I mean.
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>>69715419
>Jung himself defines the feeling function with agreeableness.
He never did that simply because he never defined any function as specific character traits, while Agreeableness is group of traits.
All you can do is find a correlation because types who orient themselves with the function meant to judge what's considered acceptable or not probably will end up with an agreeable personality more often than not, while others will not give a fuck and maybe even actively rebel against it.
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>>69714654
>First thing I see
>Mars in 1st house
Might explain all the fighting
>>69714611
And turbs was right on the Scorpio moon
I will read properly later
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>>69715749
>who is deserving of my comforting nature
Which, for Fe users, is everyone? For Fi users is only those close to them? Fi users are cats and Fe users are dogs?
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>>69715849
Nah, they only have different ways to decide for themselves. Both can say it's "everyone" or "only my friends", how they reached this conclusion is the actual difference.
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>>69715847
So me, Turbie, and INFJ-A are all Scorpio Moons. That's pretty wild. And funny since Scorpio is supposed to be the worst moon sign that results in people who are psychological disasters.
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>>69715873
none of the three seem like scorpio moons at all. scorpio moons are intense, sexual, charismatic, and passionate.
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>>69715873
What about scorpio sun? Sag moon and libra asc I think
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>>69715814
>If you're the guy who originally said I might not be an Fe user
I don't think that was me.
>I didn't put it very aptly but you probably get what I mean.
Yeah, I get the gist of what you're saying. Just because you understand why, or how someone behaves in some specific manner, doesn't mean you would find it acceptable for yourself to behave in that specific manner. Even if there's nothing inherently "wrong" with it, it's just not "who you are".
>>69715819
>He never did that
Straight from his own mouth.
https://youtu.be/P9v_EXgDAMY?list=FLr69Z7rUiqOVo63SKs5NNWw&t=133
It's a very simplified definition for the public at large to easily digest and understand. If you take the basic definition and then apply it to the function stack, higher feeling function means "more agreeable" and lower feeling function means "less agreeable". You can see this most obviously in INTP or ENTJ, they are on average extremely disagreeable. And INFP or ENFJ, who are on average very agreeable.

There are other factors that come into play, but by in large, the function that determines how agreeable you are overall is the position of your feeling/thinking function. For example, women are largely high in agreeableness, women are also the people who largely test as feelers. And men are largely high in contentiousness (disagreeable), and men are the people who by in large test as thinkers. When you flip it, and have a woman who is disagreeable, she will test with higher thinking. This is how it works.
High feeling function = agreeable
Low feeling function = disagreeable
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>>69715940
Scorpio Suns have a better reputation. Scorpio Moons are generally portrayed as being toxic, and the most vindictive and unstable Moon sign. Scorpio Suns are portrayed as being dark but they don't have the same stigma of being terrible and undesirable as Scorpio Moons.
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>>69716003
I already said there is indeed a correlation, but to claim Jung's Feeling is Big5 Agreeableness is really not accurate at all, like the rest of the vague "system" you are using.
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turbie is so fucking slutty holy shit... is there anyone in the entire world she hasn't had sex with?
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>>69715847
>Might explain all the fighting
I don't really fight that often, or I should say I don't START fights that often. But, if someone starts a fight with me, I'm not backing down. And as soon as they show a moments weakness, I'm going to push their face in the mud.
>Ram
>Doesn't back down from confrontation
I'll headbutt your ass off the side of a cliff, if you want to fight.
>>69715849
In very, very broad terms, that's correct. You lack a lot of the nuance, but you've got the super basic gist of it.
Fi users will really only comfort their inner circle of tightknit friends/family.
Fe users will allow more people to enter what they call their "tribe" or "friend circle" and thus will comfort more people. To an Fi user, it would appear that they're comforting "everyone", but to the Fe user, that's their family.

It's a bit difficult to encapsulate the entire idea there, but that's the basic concept.
>>69715911
>scorpio moons are intense, sexual, charismatic, and passionate.
You just described all three of us quite well with that line. I can't speak to the sexual portion with the other two, as I don't know them that well, but the rest of it is spot on.
>>69716088
>but to claim Jung's Feeling is Big5 Agreeableness
I'm not saying they translate 1:1, there's a massive correlation though. They are so closely correlated that for all intents and purposes, they are the same. Is that better?
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I am stubborn and agressive
what is my type
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>>69716199
You're an INFJ-T!!!! <(^_^)>
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>>69716180
>Fi users will really only comfort their inner circle of tightknit friends/family.
>Fe users will allow more people to enter what they call their "tribe" or "friend circle" and thus will comfort more people. To an Fi user, it would appear that they're comforting "everyone", but to the Fe user, that's their family.
Speaking of nuance, you should add that this is more about one being an introvert and the other being an extravert than a matter of beliefs. Like, if I asked an Fi type they can easily say they honestly believe everyone deserves their compassion but they probably aren't going to throw themselves at people so easily.
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>>69716180
aren't turbs and sofa super lighthearted and relaxed, not intense or passionate?
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>>69701511
Got INFJ/INTF. How fucked am I?
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>>69716393
>INTF
*INTJ
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>>69716257
>you should add that this is more about one being an introvert and the other being an extravert
That isn't the case though. Fe is used by INFJs, who are introverted. They exhibit the typical Fe behavior of having a larger tribe. The inverse is true for ENFPs, whose social circle is more tightly knit. ENFPs overall social circle will be larger than an INFJ, due to their extraverted nature, but their "inner circle" or "family" will be smaller than the INFJs (on average).

These qualities get amplified when when paired with the introvert or extravert. Fi on an INFP who will have a very, very small "family", for example, or Fe on an ENFJ whose "family" can be exceedingly large.
>>69716261
Those aren't mutually exclusive traits. They're both very passionate and quite intense. You may not be able to observe it very well, just because of the nature of online forums.
Being intense and passionate takes quite a lot of mental energy. So obviously they're going to tend towards a more relaxed state, due to their introverted nature.
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>>69715419
>Jung himself defines the feeling function with agreeableness.
Jesus christ you're fucking retarded. He says that people use the feeling function to decide their opinion on things, not that being a feeltard means having big 5 agreeableness, aren't you supposedly a feeler anyway? Or are you gonna tell me you barely developed a judging preference anyway as a cope for your dumbass feeling = agreeableness theories?
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>>69716455
>Fe is used by INFJs, who are introverted. They exhibit the typical Fe behavior of having a larger tribe. The inverse is true for ENFPs, whose social circle is more tightly knit.
That's where we end up in OG theory vs modern bs discussions, but I think there were enough of those.
Can't really agree that you can compare an auxiliary or even claim that it is mainly affected by one orientation.
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>>69716483
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that his entire "theory" is nothing but an extreme case of mental gynamistics to justify him being le INFJ.
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>>69716003
BROOOOOOOOOO YOU REALLY DO THINK HE MEANT BIG 5 AGREEABLENESSS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU ACTUAL FUCKING RETARD YOU STUPID DOPE YOU DUMB SACK OF SHIT WEEEEWOOOOO LORDY
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>>69716227
Getting ENFP vibes from you
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>>69716180
>They are so closely correlated that for all intents and purposes, they are the same.
Bad take, a disagreeable feeler or agreeable thinker is excessively common. Both the bitches in my family are disagreeable feelers for example, one dom and one aux
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>>69714695
An NPC is defined as someone with no internal monologue. They don't have real "thoughts" of their own, they just react to things. Having an internal monologue is an inherent part of both intuition and introverted judging functions. Every type has at least one of these as a main function except the Si types. Thus Si users are NPCs relative to other types.
>>69715129
By users I mean Si dom/aux. Si tert/inf are Ne users.
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>>69716621
>an inherent part of intuition
No it isn't, what meme theory bullshit are you using? If you think Ji functions translate into an internal monologue for whatever reason then NJ are just as npc
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i have suddenly found my motivation again
i feel powerful
i need more of this power
MORE POWER
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>>69716483
Read Jung.
>>69716505
>Can't really agree that you can compare an auxiliary or even claim that it is mainly affected by one orientation.
You lost me on this, I can't make heads or tails of what you're saying.
>>69716532
BROOOOOOOOOO WEEWOOO WEEWOO read Jung.
>>69716599
>Bad take
Do you know what a bell curve is? The exception does not disprove the rule.
>>69716621
>Having an internal monologue is an inherent part of both intuition
No it's not. The thing about intuition is there IS NO internal monologue. It's completely unconscious. The process is invisible to the user. By your definition, intuitive doms are the most NPC because they have the least amount of "active thought" or "monologue". They just purely react based on their intuition.
>and introverted judging functions.
Again, no it's not. Te users are just as likely to have an internal monologue as a Ti user.

Beyond all of that, not everyone thinks in words. Personally, I think almost entirely in abstract pictures and something I can only define as a "feeling", and almost NEVER have words inside of my head, unless I am trying to translate my natural thoughts into words for other people.

And people say I have shit takes.
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>>69716854
>intuitive doms are the most NPC because they have the least amount of "active thought" or "monologue". They just purely react based on their intuition.
Starting to think >>69716521 is right, extrovert-sama
>The exception does not disprove the rule
?? The amount of exceptions more than calls into question you saying that they correlate so closely they're "effectively the same"
>And people sat I have shit takes
Yes. Every one of your takes is pseudointellectual garbage. Kill yourself
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Internal monologue isn't even a MBTI nor Jungian concept, what are you all smoking
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>>69715275
>tfw did in fact kill a rodent around that age
>tfw it gave me a boner
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>>69716969
We can theorize, can't we? I think he did at least correlate the coherency of thought to the position of thinking in the stack. This is why I and many others think INFJ-A is a feeling dominant, as no other INFJ in this thread is as wildly retarded
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>>69716957
>Starting to think
Do you not understand what intuition is defined as? There is very, very little monologuing. It's an automatic process, if you read Jung, you'd know this.
>The amount of exceptions
Do you not understand what a BELL CURVE IS????? Or how percentages work? If 20% of feelers are disagreeable, but there are 4 billion feelers that means there are 800 million disagreeable feelers. That doesn't change the fact that 80% of feelers are agreeable.
It's total bullshit to make broad strokes and assume that all feelers are 100% agreeable. Everything is on a spectrum. You'd know this is YOU READ JUNG.
>Every one of your takes is pseudointellectual garbage.
Read Jung, or any book, for that matter.
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>>69717001
> I think he did at least correlate the coherency of thought to the position of thinking in the stack.
Yeah, but that's less about inner monologue and more about making "proper" connections with thinking in general.
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>Your type
Intj or something.
>Do you want to get married?
No.
>Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
No.
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>>69717264
The most efficient post ever
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reminder mbti is horoscopes for men
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>>69701511
>Your type
Picture.
>Do you want to get married?
I would only get married for the government benefits. If I were ever to get into a partnership, I would want my spouse to live in another home, away from me.
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Somebody extremely similar to myself.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Lease suited for marriage _to me_? Anybody that isn't like me. Least suited for marriage _in general_? I don't know.
>You are walking through the woods one day when [ ... ] do you accept the wizard's offer?
I do not accept. I think it is better for me to have never experienced something and not know what I'm missing, versus experiencing something very nice and losing it.
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>>69717299
Yes and that's what makes it awesome
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>>69716455
Introverted feelers are not just extroverted feelers but with fewer friends. Simple as.
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>>69716261
Sophie is moody and emotional as hell, how is she not intense
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>>69717760
I never said they were.
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>>69716621
>By users I mean Si dom/aux. Si tert/inf are Ne users.
>they think being an Ne user absolves one from using Si
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>>69717915
Spoiler: everyone uses all functions.
Orientation doesn't change what the function is, and position changes how you deal with it and how much it participates in your conscious processing, but it's always there.
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>Your type
ISFP Chad
>Do you want to get married?
I'd rather have a harem
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
SFJs are my weakness
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
NTJs are too mean and hurt my feels
>No obviously
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>>69717990
I take that back I would accept the offer but kill the other person
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>>69717949
How's that going against what I said
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is it autistic to spend time alone learning about anatomy? yesterday and today i have learned the names and locations of all the human bones and half of our muscles
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>>69718159
Idk but it is based, wish I had any fuckin interest in being a sperg it would make studying for shit so much easier
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Which type only cares about themselves?
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>>69718197
>Inb4 someone says Fi types
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>>69718012
Nope, magic prevents you from doing anything that can change your situation. You can't kill the other person, you can't end their affair, you can't end your own relationship. Once you agree to the wizard's contract, your fate is sealed and nothing in the world can change it. The wizard is much too old, wise, and powerful to have his magic be circumvented.

>>69707189
Nvm I changed my mind, this is me as an anime girl. We both have brown hair, therefore we're the same.

>>69707543
>Maybe someday he will be the queen of /mbti/

>implying anyone will ever dethrone Queen Turbie
You're right that I've mellowed with age some though. I'm not quite as neurotic as me in 2018, who was likewise significantly less crazy than the me of 2014, who in turn wasn't quite as psychotic as the me of 2011. (2010 and 2011 were peak psycho, if you back up to the 2000s then I'm just hollow and emotionally dead, not unstable)

There's no way I will ever stop being a turbie, though. I was a turbie even as a baby; my family had to carefully sneak past my room because I'd start crying if I heard any noise. Having a sensitive temperament is just a permanent part of my character.

>>69707856
Why do I get a score of 85? Based INFJ-A and Turbie scoring almost perfect/perfect.

>>69708223
Sorry you're being bullied. I don't know enough about typology to agree or disagree with you, but it's not like you're saying offensive things here.

>>69712764
I'm Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon in 7th house (whatever that means), Aries Rising, Cancer Mercury, Leo Venus, Leo Mars. Rate my signs.

>>69711916
Children can be unhealthy, yeah. I'm guessing he doesn't remember much of anything before the age of 5 or 6, and you aren't born as a 5 or 6 year old. Kids have much lower rates of mental illness/emotional problems than older age demographics, but he definitely could've been unhealthy from early in his life depending on his environment.
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>>69718437
Chad horoscope w/ a little bit of crybaby interior
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>>69718437
>>69718565
Femme fatale set of signs there
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>>69718117
It doesn't, more like it extends the statement to all types.

It's funny when people talk about not having a function
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>>69718721
He's specifically making a statement about types with Si high in the stack you retard
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>>69701511
>your type
INTP
>do you want to get married?
maybe
>if so, what type would you like to get married to?
ENTP or INFP
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Segroids, Heed My Wisdom:

Take thyself into the thickets and wilds, discover for thou a place of serenity and peace. Carry for thou a hammock to recline within, and supplies to last thyself some days.

In the beauty of the Lord's nature, take thou into thy hands thine penis and embrace thyself ceaselessly until exhaustion; in this way, thou shall experience godhood evermore.
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>>69718879
I know. The statement sucks anyway because functions have fuck all to do with "NPCs".
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>>69718437
>Sorry you're being bullied.
Ah, don't worry about it. This is probably the weakest attempt at someone "bullying" me I've ever experienced in my life. The only emotional reactions I have is bewilderment, for lack of a better term, at their astonishing levels of ignorance. And what I can only call "sadness" that they're willing to shit up the thread in a petty attempt to bolster their own fragile, narcissistic ego. It's likely because they have no one, or nothing else in their life that has any sort of value. So they have to attempt to place other people below themselves to fill that ever growing void in their own soul.

Maybe pity is a better word than sadness. That's why I reply to them and allow them to have my attention, it's likely that no one else will give them any attention whatsoever, probably due to their abysmal personalities. I pity them like the poor muck creatures stuck in the higher rings of hell, that attempt to pull other beings into the muck, since they are incapable of escaping, like crabs in a bucket.

If you should feel sorry for someone, it should be them, not me. Their weak attempts at bullying only bolster my resolve, not weaken it. It's sort of like the concept "if you encounter enemies, you can be sure you're on the correct path." These poor low level Muck Goblins are no threat to me, nor will they disrupt my path. They only prove I am headed in the correct direction.

>but it's not like you're saying offensive things here.
That may not be true after I click "Post".
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>i-im the one giving them attention
anon you're letting them get in your head too much, try to take things less seriously
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I am just making an observation based on how I know people to act. People who are getting the attention they need don't behave in that manner to get attention. It's very easily observable in young children who will start fights in school because their homelife is horrible and they're not getting the proper attention. Or it's been engrained in them through negative reinforcement, they act out at home and their parents scream at them, and that allows them to get the bare minimum of attention the need.
They aren't in my head at all, it's just basic psychology.
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>>69719023
i pretended a girl wrote this post and it gave me a boner
infj-a would make a hot girl, admit it
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mbti meme
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>>69719023
>>69719156
ehhhhh that sounds like grade a copium, you clearly feel the need to vent about it (not that there's nothing wrong with that). I for one appreciate your attempts at mbti discussion even if your methodology and positions and, like, everything else is highly questionable. It's good for the thread even if ur a little pretentious sometimes
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I did the test. It says I'm an INTP. Does that mean I get to fuck someone?
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>>69719163
This. Genderbent Sophie is moderately hot if you want a 1950s demure housewife, but genderbent INFJ-A makes me diamonds in an instant
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I want to hatefuck INFJ-A so bad UGURRURRGGRYHR
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>>69719231
No. In fact you're the type most likely to stay a virgin forever, unless the test was wrong, which most of them usually are.
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>>69719163
That's actually pretty funny, because I've noticed that happens a lot in the threads I hang around in on the chans. Especially in my own personal thread I used to make fairly commonly on another board.
>>69719206
>you clearly feel the need to vent about it
I was just sharing my point of view, and allowing my mind to fully explore the thought unimpeded. I have no reason to be upset, other than the fact that they're shitting on the quality of the thread for their own bastardized satisfaction. Instead of contributing something of literally any value.
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why are all isfps mentally ill?
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>>69719338
high fi plus most of them have daddy issues, a deadly combo
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>>69719308
>they're shitting on the quality of the thread for their own bastardized satisfaction.
Isn't that what the "your opposition makes me stronger" memeing is? You throwing tantrums because no one likes you outside of their XX chromosome fantasy abstractions? From what I've seen people who respond to you are trying to clarify whatever bullshit you're spouting, the thread being shittier for you is not the thread being shittier in general. If we lived in a perfect world those two things would have exact negative correlation
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>>69701511
>Your type
Idk
>Do you want to get married?
I'm currently really disillusioned and detached but maybe.. if it's my soulmate? If she got all the same quirks as I do, not some stranger I could imagine to live with, but someone familiar, quantifiably familiar.. like a sister.. mhmmmmm mhmhmhmmmm. Well where do we find based creative aphex twin girl with dark empath autism??
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
I was in a relationship with an INFP RLUEN with BPD back in the day and it was awful bro, after I left her she fucked 75% of my town, even four old classmates of mine like just EVERYONE fucked her but anyway.. what dype do me want mmhhhhm well INTP would be cool but I'm not a ennea 5 I guess, I only collect data for these two interests of mine: RACISM and BLACKPILL.. ok some sChiZo stuff too here and there or psychology ! And I like old vsauce vids.. and some philosophy - more like depression .. but my most valuable resource is something else.. i have something INTPs don't have.. idk man some NTP wifey yes yes.. INFJ would be nice too.. but I'm too cold for them, they deserve and need fairy tail level LOVE..
But yes SFPs are the hottest and most charismatic ones and no other women on this earth could stop my heart like they ca n but after the 73th conversation about your hips or some shit it's getting too worldly and superficial for me BORING but who knows maybe I'm just ugly and internalized weakness but I'm still right even if it's a pathology bitchy bitch
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
Well, marriage has three opponents. Low Conscientiousness (P), high neuroticism (-T.. yes I know 16p but cheeeell) and low agreeableness (T)
Soo XXTP-Ts UH OHHH and XXFJ-As YEEEEEEEESS
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>>69719376
but infps seem to be nice and kind. if infps are autism, isfps are bpd. what makes isfps different?
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>>69719383
What the fuck is wrong with you

originally origignally
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>>69719406
isfps - fi se, a high belief that they needed to be independent from birth
infps - fi ne, a high belief that they need to fit in where they can from birth
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>>69719427
why would se = independence and ne = conformity? is this memeionics drivel
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>>69719438
what, do you want me to define them by their letter functions?
sure
S - up their ass about their past experiences
N - more likely to look at possibilities to be caught up in drama
fuck you
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>>69717897
>These qualities get amplified when when paired with the introvert or extravert. Fi on an INFP who will have a very, very small "family", for example, or Fe on an ENFJ whose "family" can be exceedingly large.

Feeling determines what is agreeable. In the extroverted attitude, it aims to make and judge the situation agreeable. In the introverted attitude, it aims to make and judge ideas, archetypes, agreeable. So they're not agreeable in the same way, since Fe is more dynamic. It's not about how many people you consider close.
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>>69719377
>Isn't that what the "your opposition makes me stronger" memeing is?
What...?
>You throwing tantrums
....What?
>From what I've seen people who respond to you
There are two types of people who respond to me, those seeking clarification, or a genuine conversation. And those who just say "NO UR RETARDED" over and over again, to whom I reply "Read Jung". I'm referring to the ladder.
>the thread being shittier for you
The thread isn't shitty for me. If it were shitty for me, I'd leave. They anons I'm referring to are attempting to make the thread shitty for me, in an attempt to make me leave. But they're doing the opposite, they're making me stay longer. What I'm referring to is they're willing to actively try and shut down legitimate MBTI discussion because they don't like me, which isn't going to work. They're the ones throwing tantrums because they cannot stand me.

I strongly suspect you are one of these anons to which I am referring.
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>>69719457
nta but how does that relate to your first post
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>>69719511
a need to be independent + up their ass about shit = mentally ill angst
are you just slow? do you need me to explain it again?
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>>69719535
>a need to be independent
What you're referring to is their Fi, not Se nor Ne. Fi dominants have a strong desire to be independent. Se and Ne are "modes of observation", simply put.
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>>69719509
Ah, honest mistranslation then. A good majority of your posts are defensive tantrums (no matter how much confusion you feign) and you staying actively makes the thread worse, ergo you are the troll shitting on thread quality for admittedly self-satisfactory reasons. You project a lot, ya know?
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>>69719548
you're right except on the point that i was describing their fi. i was describing their se and ne. they value what is produced by their auxillary function. the functions work in tandem.
fi = my values as it relates to me
se = the points of independence that i observe, letting me know what i need to keep up my ass
ne = the points of relatability that i observe, letting me know what i need to do to fit in where i can
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watching INFJ-As stoic battle hardened bully persona crumble before my eyes is so endearing. I want to hold him close and reassure him that he will always be my number 1 thread waifu, that he is safe to show his feelings around me and I would never treat him as any less of a man for it <333
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>>69719580
And these points are mutually exclusive by function, how?
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>>69701511
>INFJ
>Absolutely
>Definitely an xNTx
>Absolutely not wtf
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>>69719656
I mean if you don't know the functions you can always just look them up
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>>69719556
> A good majority of your posts are defensive tantrums
I don't see how you can quantify me defending my point of view as a tantrum. If that were the case, you're throwing a defensive tantrum right now in that very post.
>and you staying actively makes the thread worse
I make posts that benefit the thread either by starting, or contributing towards a discussion regarding MBTI. Obviously sometimes I go off topic, but that is to be expected.
What you've essentially just said is "People are going to shit up the thread because they don't like you, that means their actions are your fault!" They're the ones shitting up the thread, not me. Don't blame me because they're throwing tantrums. Blame them for throwing tantrums. A nice buzzword to encapsulate this is "victim blaming".
>You project a lot, ya know?
Weird mental gymnastics you had to do to reach that conclusion, ya know?
>>69719580
>except on the point that i was describing their fi.
The thing you described was Fi, not Se or Ne.
>they value what is produced by their auxillary function.
Neither Se nor Ne produce anything. They are methods of observing the external world. Judgement functions are the functions which produce things.
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>>69713864
I haven't turned on him, but he needs to stop playing with the feelings of random women. It's a sad fact of life that people who are abused or mistreated take out their hurt on random innocents far moreso than the actual source of their pain. It's rarely the abuser who ends up footing the bill, but unrelated innocents further down the line.

>>69713981
Underrated post.

>>69716455
Interesting... why do you think we're intense and passionate? INFJ-A definitely wears his intensity on his sleeve moreso than either of us, though.

>>69717425
I think I agree. "It's better to have loved and lost" only applies if you fully heal from the loss. My first relationship caused me a lot of pain back in 2016 when things went to shit, but I can warmly look back on those times now on occasion because they're too remote and distant to cause any pain, I'm just glad someone loved me that much. But in situations where you don't fully heal, it might be better to never have loved.

>>69718197
Whichever type you are (lmao)

>>69718949
Masturbation is one of the best things in the world. It takes me about 40 minutes to coom usually, and I'm just left wishing that refractory periods didn't exist and I could do it for a few hours.

>>69719383
>INFP girl who fucks dozens of people
Hot

>>69719676
>Absolutely not wtf
:3
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>>69719535
>>69719679
anon I almost mistook you for INFJ-A considering how deeply retarded, evasive, and uninformed you are. explain to me why the fuck se = independence and ne = conformity. why would sensory or intuitive information lead to either of those things being chosen. why would seeing potential be exclusively seeing potential to be weak and submissive and why would seeing how things are mean seeing how to be mean and bpd

wow even INFJ-A thinks you're a retard, wild
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>>69719679
Ne is not about reliability. Ne seeks how things could change.
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>>69719700
>that means their actions are your fault!
No, your actions are your fault. You being exceptionally smug, stupid, insufferable and with 0 intellectual honesty of any kind is your problem. They have their own problems (I agree some of us should be more patient with your retardation) but from what I see the pattern is you staying stupid shit and 4 people replying with less stupid shit, although with varying degrees of seethe and bias that could make the thread somewhat unpleasant (but once again, mostly for you. other people skim over arguments they don't care about and it gives the illusion of mbti discussion to the intp lurkers so they bitch less. it's good all around if anything)
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does breeder like to breed a lot?
Who did he breed?
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>>69719721
relatability. i said relatability.
>seeks how things could change
and they relate to how well with what they agree what can change.
ni = cause and effect over time
ne = possibilities
both have to do with what they relate to because if they don't relate to it then they don't consider it (which is literally the same thing as observing it)
>>69719700
if you're saying they do nothing then you need to read the definitions again. read above.
>>69719718
>waa you're an INFJ-A!!!!
cry more bitch boy your last sentence didn't even make any sense in your rambling. and read above
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>>69719713
Why don't you lead on women for fun, Sophie? I think you're just jealous of Breeder because you know you aren't hot enough to do the same thing.
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>>69719781
Sophie attracts busloads of poon irl and in this thread you fucking wish you were him
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>>69719338
Fi doms and actually have the capability of doing shit/acting crazy because of Se, unlike INFPs
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>>69719829
Finally, a decent answer. Se likes intense physical sensation and is more bodily than Ne. It's why ISFP are the protagonist type and INFP are the creatives writing them
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>>69719774
>relatability. i said relatability.
I know what you said. Seeking relatability in groups to conform is a type of reliability. This is primarily Fe. Relatability is wholly an aspect of Feeling, not Ne.

>ni = cause and effect over time
This is Thinking with perception.
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>>69719253
Who's Turbie? The wallflower, wine aunt, cat lady no one wants?
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>>69719867
He's a socionics memer trying to translate concepts to MBTI. Ni = change over time is pretty much a smoking gun
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>>69719875
She's the volcel wine aunt. She has 100+ people madly in love with her, some of whom have been pursuing her from years, but she's too damaged from her upbringing to date anyone.
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>>69719867
saying
>Seeking relatability in groups to conform is a type of reliability.
when i said
>both have to do with what they relate to because if they don't relate to it then they don't consider it (which is literally the same thing as observing it)
just lets me know that you made no effort with reading comprehension
>>69719888
you've never read a mbti blog, have you?
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>>69719904
You neither lmao, though lots of sociostuff goes online packaged as MBTI so I can't fault you

also you're doing a horrible job of explaining your point, simultaneously deflecting any arguments and calling people who disagree with you retarded instead of explaining - the worst of both worlds
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>>69719796
lmao yeah I wish I was a 400 pound uggo who larps as anime girls
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>>69719930
bro i literally came in saying facts and you got ass hurt because i said some truths you couldn't understand
grow up
bitch boy
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>>69703530
I just want an H gf so bad bros
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>>69719904
>just lets me know that you made no effort with reading comprehension
>ne = the points of relatability that i observe, letting me know what i need to do to fit in where i can
Please tell me how Ne only considers what you can do in the present. In fact, this is Sensing. Regardless, Ne is on the lookout to change the situation, much like Se.
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>>69719954
nvm ur actually kind of based, bro aesthetic fucks and bitch boy is an underrated insult. pick me up at 8?
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>>69719958
>ne only considers what you can do in the present
when did I say that?
>Ne is on the lookout to change the situation, much like Se.
so you're defining what ne is by what se is? it sounds more like you're just defining an extroverted perception function as what it is without actually going into what makes se and ne different
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>>69719713
>why do you think we're intense and passionate?
Well, because I've experienced your intensity and passion first hand in the threads.
Turbie is a bit more difficult to explain. He's definitely intense in a different way than you or I, and I can't quite find the words to explain it. But, I can see his passion when he gets involved in the threads. He hides his intensity, but he also allows it to show in his own very unique way.
>>69719767
If I can sum up your entire post into one sentence:
>I don't like the way you speak, it makes me feel insecure and unintelligent, so I have to attack you.
>>69719774
>ni = cause and effect over time
That's just blatantly incorrect. Ni is a method of observation of the internal world by representing things as "internal abstracted objects".
>ne = possibilities
Both Ne and Ni see possibilities. "What could this be/mean." Ni looks more for meanings "what does this object represent/mean" Whereas Ne looks for the possibilities of external objects to be transformed into other objects, or more broadly worded "how can this be used?".
>if you're saying they do nothing
No, I very specifically said "They do not PRODUCE anything." The thing that they DO is observe the external world. Judgement functions are the functions that produce. They produce judgements. Perception functions observe.
>cry more bitch boy
keklmao
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>>69719989
>when did I say that?
It's the implication of what you said.

>the rest
Yeah, what makes them different is the physicality. Not independence vs conformity.
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>>69720027
>Well, because I've experienced your intensity and passion first hand in the threads.

Sorry, friend.

But yeah, Turbie has some hidden intensity (and hides much of his deeper self in general). There's no subject that's too minor or trivial for him to have some thoughts on it. People that lack intensity go "meh idc w/e" on a lot of things.
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What's with all the meme takes recently
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>>69720027
>I don't like the way you speak
True
>it makes me feel insecure and unintelligent
Projection
>so I have to attack you.
It's certainly a compulsion, you have a very attackable personality. Your recent attempts at pretend civility are honorable though, you might even achieve some level of sincerity eventually
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>>69720027
>Ni is a method of observation of the internal world by representing things as "internal abstracted objects".
>looks more for meanings "what does this object represent/mean"
Ffs sake INFJ-A, that's Thinking or Feeling.
Intuition never "represents" anything, it's always about the possible forms objects can take: both concretely and abstractly. Doesn't have anything to do with what they "mean", you need a rational/judging system to determine this, it cannot be purely perception anymore.
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>>69720027
>"What could this be/mean." Ni looks more for meanings "what does this object represent/mean"
>Whereas Ne looks for the possibilities of external objects to be transformed into other objects, or more broadly worded "how can this be used?"
talking about the possibilities for how something can be used is literally what i am talking about. if they don't relate to it, they can not consider it, nor can they observe it. if you didn't know a single thing about an object how can you relate to it? you won't know what to do what can an object be used for if you can't even acknowledge it's existence in the first place.
the same goes for ni, i can understand a misunderstanding with cause and effect as one does not immediately associate what an object is and can become but I will break it down for you to simpler terms so you can understand
when talking about cat food:
what does this object represent - nutritional edibles for cats
cause and effect - something a cat can eat to gain nutrition
>>69720069
if you want to gain implication when there is none then i'm not sure on what you're trying to convince yourself nor do i care
when you're talking about your purpose in life with ne you ask yourself "how can i be used?", do you not? that's equating to how can you fit in where you do.
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>>69720027
>>69720079
Turbie is skittish and vulnerable, sophie is an aggressively insecure wet blanket, INFJ-A is compensating very hard for everything, all of those fit into some definition of intense or another but not in a good way
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>>69720174
you won't know what to do with an object if you can't even acknowledge its existence in the first place*
i had a stroke
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>>69720200
>Aggressively insecure
Yes
>Wet blanket
Huh?
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>>69720174
>what does this object represent - nutritional edibles for cats
>cause and effect - something a cat can eat to gain nutrition
This is Thinking+Sensing.

>when there is none
I disagree.

>when you're talking about your purpose in life with ne you ask yourself "how can i be used?", do you not?
It's asking what else is possible. I have no idea why you limit it only to thinking about one's position in a group.
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>>69720230
Don't pretend you aren't standing above us all hoitytoity-like with your regal mannerisms and graceful, sensitive charms you cunning little madonna
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>>69720238
>This is Thinking+Sensing.
except it's not
>I disagree.
okay i don't care
>It's asking what else is possible.
that's literally the same thing. who said a group has to use you? what little man lives in your head that is giving you all of these false implications? you can use yourself, did you know that?
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>>69720238
>This is Thinking+Sensing.
Just thinking honestly. You don't really need to examine the sensuous proprieties and impressions received from the food or the cat to make this conceptual connection.
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>>69720270
>except it's not
Determining an object's use is obviously Thinking. Banally perceiving the cat and food is Sensing. It is so obviously not Ni that it's clear you lack some basic knowledge on the topic.

>what little man lives in your head that is giving you all of these false implications?
>ne = the points of relatability that i observe, letting me know what i need to do to fit in where i can
You. Ne is not less proactive than Se.

>>69720283
Well, I mean rudimentary sensing because it's observing something going on without projecting an image, to show that it's not intuition.
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>>69720354
>Determining an object's use is obviously Thinking. Banally perceiving the cat and food is Sensing. It is so obviously not Ni that it's clear you lack some basic knowledge on the topic.
and you lack some basic definitions to even convey an argument besides "I disagree."
If you want to define all of the functions as to how you perceive it in your own little headcanon you're free to do so, otherwise, I'm just going to assume you read 16 personalities once and that's it.
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>>69720238
>>69720354
>Well, I mean rudimentary sensing because it's observing something going on without projecting an image, to show that it's not intuition
That's cool. A rudimentary intuition, which is auxiliary to thinking in this case, would have confirmed it by "seeing" how a cat eating this food sounds something that could definitely happen. A very basic "vision" of something that didn't happen yet if we want to put in these terms.
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Ne = literal visionary senses, can see possibilities others cannot
Ni = godhood, can perceive patterns others don't pick up on and receives esoteric knowledge by looking at a popcorn ceiling
Ti = logic and reasoning, able to use intelligence to reason through difficult problems and further mankind's understanding of the world
Fi = strong moral sense and drive to understand the self, charts the dark waters of the mind where other functions cannot go
Se = weeee fun colours lol loud noises!!!
Si = waaahh everything needs to be in order :((((
Te = reeeeeeeee you need to follow the rules
Fe = reeeeeeeee you need to follow the culture and not offend people
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>>69720079
No need to be sorry, it's what makes you who you are.
>There's no subject that's too minor or trivial for him to have some thoughts on it.
Easily one of his best qualities.
>People that lack intensity go "meh idc w/e" on a lot of things.
That seems to be a lot of the people who frequent this thread.
>>69720116
>Projection
It's okay if you want to outwardly deny it, we both know it's true. It's the feeling that feeds your compulsion to attack me. Which is why, deep down, I cannot get angry when you do such things.
>>69720173
>that's Thinking or Feeling.
Here, just watch this video. Jung explains it the best, it's his system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9v_EXgDAMY

Ni represents internal workings as abstracted internal objects, in the video he speaks of a patient who "has a snake in their abdomen", that is a representation, the patient infers (through a hunch) that it means broadly "something is wrong", and thus they seek Jung for help.
The internal world for Ni is never "concrete", it's extremely abstract.
>>69720174
>if you didn't know a single thing about an object how can you relate to it?
Your use of the word "relate" is throwing me off. Relating to something is done via a feeling function. I'm honestly having a very difficult time understanding exactly what you're trying to say overall.

It's quite simple when you boil it down to the barebones.
Se tells you an external object exists, cat food for example.
Thinking tells you that this is in fact food for a cat, or as you say "nutritional edibles for cats".
The cause and effect portion is also a thinking function.

Intuition would something like telling you "this will taste bad" even though you've never eaten/smelled it before. The process by which Ne and Ni determine "this will taste bad" is slightly different. It can't really be represented verbally, as the process is "unknown" to the person who is using the intuition function.
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>69701511
>Your type
int-j
>Do you want to get married?
yeah sure, why not
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
10/10 hottie
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
9/10 and below
> Knowing this, do you accept the wizard's offer?
iam not a beta cuck, infact i would be quite pissed to get such a retarded "offer"
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>>69720387
>I'm just going to assume you read 16 personalities once and that's it.
This theory has a surprising amount of merit, though you are miraculously the retard in this situation
>>69720420
What a shitty little retort, it seems our little tug of war has reached a stalemate. You're still welcome to kill yourself at any time dear <3
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>>69720387
Please provide the source where you read that determining cats can eat(!) is Ni. Well, I already know you read it on some "MBTI blog", and I will tell you the blog doesn't know anything about MBTI, as nothing alike is made into an example by people who actually established the framework. You know- Jung, Myers. Not bloggers.
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>>69719796
No poon, only bepis, but any attention is nice.

>>69720259
You're silly. <3

>>69720412
Based anon who hates all forms of Sensing and Feeling
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>>69720420
in my original reply i was talking about se being independence, which relates to acknowledging yourself as a singular entity in of yourself apart from others. By your definition that would be Se. It's the same as cat food, it is independent from other things around it not seen as that.
The way you're defining thinking has no distinction from Se. I'm pretty sure that's where you're getting confused with what I'm saying.
The cause and effect portion is essentially saying the same thing as Ni, just in a more roundabout and abstract way which can be interpreted for different uses. You say what it can represent by understanding the effect it has. >>69720447
>16 personalities and an mbti youtube channel
glad i wasn't too far off then
>>69720480
how about you post one that's (((verified))) so I can explain to you that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about even with your sources
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>>69720270
>except it's not
Except that anon was literally spot on by saying it's sensationg+thinking.

One use for intuition would be something like "the cat will enjoy eating this", even though you are not a cat, nor have you ever eaten cat food, nor do you know how a cat perceives the food they eat. This is closer to what Ne would perceive.
This is akin to what that anon was saying "what else is possible?" Another way to see it is something like, making a gun and using the cat food at pellets to shoot at cats. This is another Ne example.
An Ni example would be like you touch the cat food, and something about the way it feels triggers some vision inside of you that tells you an entire overarching story of how it came to be cat food and the entire process of life and death, or something bizarre like that.
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>>69720529
if you were reading the other replies you would know that i am also defining ne as "what else is possible?" and ni as cause and effect, however autistic you put it
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>>69718437
>Rate my signs
you fixed afff
not a mutable placement in sight :O
whats it like to never change your mind?

>>69716180
thats right, you invoke that within people rather than directly being the catalyst. looks more to do with scorpion energy than aries, after all, scorpio is the higher octave of mars, and so it's a little more complex or... what do they call it? covert?
do you have scars on your face?
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>>69720420
>Ni represents internal workings as abstracted internal objects, in the video he speaks of a patient who "has a snake in their abdomen", that is a representation, the patient infers (through a hunch) that it means broadly "something is wrong", and thus they seek Jung for help.
I think the example he is using mostly shows how an introverted intuitive is trying to describe something he doesn't naturally get: an inner sensation.
This phenomenon was already mentioned back in PT, when he talks about the introverted intuition type who can get images except he doesn't actually know it might represent something about them until they connect the dots.
>The internal world for Ni is never "concrete", it's extremely abstract
"Concrete" intuition is a thing and does actually have a definition too.
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>>69720527
>(((verified)))
You can't just make up whatever without understanding and claim it's something else. And you call anyone else's points "headcannon"?

Since clearly even the MBTI blogs were made up, you can read what introverted intuition is, in a shorter form, in Chapter X of Psychological Types:
https://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm
Myers also briefly describes Ni in Chapter 9 of Gifts Differing, pic related.
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>>69720529
>>69720529
>An Ni example would be like you touch the cat food, and something about the way it feels triggers some vision inside of you that tells you an entire overarching story of how it came to be cat food and the entire process of life and death, or something bizarre like that.
Actually yes but doesn't have to be anything grandiose. Ni types are about inner visions not actually directly related to external objects, though they might establish a relationship later by using Thinking or Feeling.
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What's with the meme about INFJs holding long grudges? Any input on that Turbie, Sophie, INFJ-A?
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>>69720612
Oh I love how this is written, it describes my bullshit perfectly. I love my shitty little angles and perspectives and understandings
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>>69720507
Fi is based but sensing is just for retards
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>>69720612
>regards the immediate situation as a prison from which escape is urgently necessary and aims to escape through some sweeping change in the subjective understanding of the objective situation
the immediate situation is the cause
the prison from which escape is the method it takes with reason
aims to escape through some sweeping change in the subjective understanding of the objective situation is the effect
okay so lets break this down even further
the ingredients of cat food is the cause
the molding and shaping into cat food is the method with reason, as it has a plan
and the completed efforts using energy to make the cat food is the effect
literally what i have been saying for the past couple of howerever many minutes

look this even talks about what i said again but in a different way
>Recieves its impetus from outer objects but is never arrested by external possibilities, being occupied rather by searching out new angles for viewing and understanding life
it receives a cause but the effect is never defined until it finds a method and reason to obtain it
the cat food's ingredients is never made into cat food until the process begins
it undergoes processing and shaping in order to become what it is, the reason it goes through
and with understanding itself as it comes in your cat food bag, it is the effect

proves to me that you don't understand what's been written, buddy
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>>69720527
>i was talking about se being independence
I'm well aware, and I said Fi (and subsequently Ti) are independence. Se just tells you that an object exists and allows you to sense the qualities of it, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

When you walk into a room and a bright color catches your eye, that's Se. When you say "That is beautiful" that is a feeling function. When you say "that is a painting" that is a thinking function. When you have some "feeling" that tells you some deeper meaning behind that painting, that is intuition.
>The way you're defining thinking has no distinction from Se
See above. Se just tells you that something exists. That's it.
>16 personalities and an mbti youtube channel
What...? It's literally a video of Carl Jung explaining the functions. The fuck are you on about?
>>69720548
>if you were reading the other replies
I did, you somehow manage to make less sense than me, the person who is known for making no sense.
>and ni as cause and effect
Again, this is wrong. Cause and effect is done with a thinking function. Maybe try a different phrase other than "cause and effect", that clearly isn't working.
>>69720570
>thats right, you invoke that within people rather than directly being the catalyst.
What do you mean by this?
>do you have scars on your face?
I don't.
>>69720578
>an inner sensation.
The inner sensation is literally represented as a snake in their abdomen. For Ni doms, (nearly) everything that happens within themselves is represented as some other abstract object/image.
>"Concrete" intuition
That is basically what Ne is.
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I MISS BREEDER SO FUCKING MUCH
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>>69720774
>Fi (and subsequently Ti) are independence
you're going to need a definition for that, buddy
>Se just tells you that an object exists and allows you to sense the qualities of it
i agree with you what about that don't you understand
>Again, this is wrong. Cause and effect is done with a thinking function. Maybe try a different phrase other than "cause and effect", that clearly isn't working.
also going to need a definition on that, buddy. someone just posted a definition and it's literally that.
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>>69720784
HONESTLY SAME HE SEEMS TO BE AN ALRIGHT DUDE WHEN HE ISN'T BEING A JEALOUS WEIRDO
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>>69720812
Jealous? Of who?
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>>69701511
>Your type
INFP
>u want to get married?
yea.. i can relate to other INFx saying it needn't be big/official but *for me* that's mostly cope for the fact i can't afford the lavish weddings i want, cope reflecting my all or nothing mindset, critical of mediocrity, inefficiency, etc
>If so, what type would u like to get married to?
ENTJ, if I'm not just writing them all out. Maybe Thinking 1st isn't smart since I need warmth, but Thinking aux would probably be good for me, or just a type that naturally addresses my uncertainty (the problem is IxFP need to feel they have authority, so she can't overtly rule me). An ESTJ would probably hate me. ESxP sounds fun on paper but like >>69719383 says i might think them simple. If a harem, I'm less concerned about min-max compatibility. If they want to be my only, there's more pressure to compliment, even from the perspective of her getting what she wants from me
>What types do u think are most and least suited for marriage?
most: type i like
least: type i don't like
could multi-post, applying Libran logic to each function pole (for example Ni could promote longevity, or see the entire marriage fall apart and write their spouse out of every future as that perceptual preference for control turns destructive) but what i will say is my Ne, presumed primary culprit, presented obstacle when I refused to close the door on wanting 2 partners, agitating my relationship. I can only imagine it's worse in lead; so yes, Ne seems least committal. Perhaps Se is similar. Si gets stuck, Se moves. Se likely terminates relationships while Si beats the dead horse. I'm speaking generally tho as i think every polarity reveals another within it where the same results are expressed inverted
>do you accept the wizard's offer?
No. might whore around like the INFP anon mentioned. When hope has hanged by a thread, I've felt the tug of another world where I trade one ideal for a hedonistic extreme, purity damned. All or nothing
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>>69720820
EVIDENTLY SOPHIE, THOUGH THEY CURRENTLY SEEM TO BE ON DECENT TERMS
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How many people did breeder breed
i must know please tell me
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>>69720831
I doubt it. Breeder looks down on Sophie and thinks he's just an insincere Fe fag.
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>>69720863
IT'S DRIVEN BY FEAR AND CONFUSION, BREEDER IS DEEPLY AUTISTIC AMONG OTHER THINGS AND HAS NO ORIGINAL OR INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS TO OFFER BEYOND "PLEASANTRIES... ARE BAD"
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>>69720105
I was thinking it. You said it.
>>69720830
>Maybe Thinking 1st isn't smart since I need warmth,
That was my opinion also.
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>>69720632
>doesn't have to be anything grandiose.
It very often is quite grandiose in nature though. Like looking up at the night sky have some feeling of awe, and then a whole bunch of dots connect and you've got some grand vision of the creation of the universe, or something like that.
It can also be very mundane things, like your friend is talking to you and their words are transformed into some other abstract image inside your mind that tells you the deeper meaning of what they're saying.
>>69720655
>What's with the meme about INFJs holding long grudges?
It's mostly just a meme. I think it comes from INFJs cutting people off, it's not because we hold a grudge, we just don't want you in our life anymore. I may be over whatever happened, but I'm not falling for it again. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
I think it's mostly people who got cut off, and are entitled who hold that opinion. Like, just because I forgive you doesn't mean I need to let you back into my life.
>>69720800
>you're going to need a definition for that, buddy
It's time for my favorite line. Read Jung.
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>>69720913
>Read Jung.
I literally just did and it agreed with me. Not you.
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>The more the ego seeks to secure every possible liberty, independence, superiority, and freedom from obligations, the deeper does it fall into the slavery of objective facts. The subject's freedom of mind is chained to an ignominious financial dependence, his unconcernedness of action suffers now and again, a distressing collapse in the face of public opinion, his moral superiority gets swamped in inferior relationships, and his desire to dominate ends in a pitiful craving to be loved.
Haha wtf it's me
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Which type is most likely to die
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>>69720924
estp due to retardation
infp due to suicide
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>>69720924
Every type other than the Ni doms, Ni doms are literally god.
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i'm not jealous of sophie. he's a sad, pathetic person. i'm just busy with my own life. you should be, too.
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lmaooooooo breeder's so insecure he has to come and post about how little he cares fuck off breeder no one actually misses you
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>>69721066
i miss him
wish he would breed me
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>>69721125
me too to be honest im just playing hard to get because any amount of kindness will tick him off
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>>69721142
why does he dislike people being nice to him?
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>>69720507
Are you ever going to actually date anyone here or are you just going to be a tease for eternity?
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>>69721154
he thinks its all an evil, manipulative ruse due to his autism and mommy issues
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>>69721174
>he thinks its all an evil, manipulative ruse due to his autism and mommy issues
this hits way too close to home...
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>>69721125
this could be resolved by killing yourself
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i don't dislike people being nice to me. i don't feel much towards it either way. there's fake fe and real fe. most fe is fake. smoke and mirrors. a comforting illusion. people try to make others feel good because they want to be made to feel good in return. its sickening. love and kindness are illusions. i would rather be an asshole who's genuine than a nice person who's fake.
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>>69719231
I
Never
Touched
Pussy

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For that one anon that might still be interested in INFJ girl updates. We went together to a music festival, 5 days on a campsite near the abandoned airport. It was cool and as far as intimacy goes we reached 2nd or 3rd base (depending on your personal definition). I've heard some nice stuff about myself from her:
> you're the only one I feel ok with touching my butt since it's not lined with animalistic lust for one thing most guys have
> you have the best eyes I have ever seen
> I can't kiss you that much because I loose myself. I never was like that and I don't know what I will do

Gives me a little ego trip to hear that last one, since it was a day after kissing a girl (first ever) for the first time
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>>69685271
>I've wondered for awhile if trouble filtering out external stimuli could be function related.
It isn't. You are free to put the wondering to rest.
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>>69721223
i will be nice to you and you will enjoy it
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>>69721223
>people try to make others feel good because they want to be made to feel good in return. its sickening
Huh? Literally what is wrong with that unless they get pissy at you for not returning it. Sophie is kind even without active participation, mald less
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Breeder really does have the mentality of a 12 year old whose parents just divorced, either sub 80 IQ or the alcohol did a number on him
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>>69721272
it's not just sophie. again, sophie is irrelevant. it's people in general. i think i'm done. the world is fake. people are fake. it is what it is. it's alright to fuck with people. it's like messing with videogame characters. none of this is real.
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>>69721310
You're such a fucking autist sperg it's unbearable. I'm sorry your life is a dead end but could you at least die quietly without hurting others because of it? Oh nooooo people socialize with each other waaaaaaa I'm gonna slap my mom and then fantasize about hurting random families
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>>69720774
wut
i was just saying that scorpios are known for manipulating
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i think we should all hug breeder guyse and hold him real tight
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What is the most yandere type?
Can INTP be yandere?
Can ESFP be yandere?
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>>69721371
are you yandere?
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>>69721310
desu you're an INFP
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>>69721371
INFJ is the stereotypical yandere type
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>>69703356
You're not an INTP. You're a goddamned chicken tender.
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>>69721371
>What is the most yandere type?
sx2, sx5, sx8 - generally ESFP, INFJ, ESTP respectively
>Can INTP be yandere
Sure, probably sx5
>Can ESFP be yandere
both sx2 and sx8 are common for iy
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>>69721387
Why do you think INFP?
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>>69721421
do ESxPs even get attached to one person like that?
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How many people in this general are mistyped ISFJs?
They are one of the most common types, after all.
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>>69721474
Sophie, Turbie, Mosley, ENFJ-senpai
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>>69721448
It's mostly the violent and possessive aspect of the yandere that applies to them, sx2 and sx8 both see their romantic interests as "conquests" to be attained through whatever means necessary. Being overly attached to one specific person, stalker-y, and obsessive is closer to sx5 but they're generally timid and sensitive irl
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>>69721431
because i've never met an INTP so consistently angsty
>>69721474
ISFJs are often angsty but in a different way. their Fe makes them self righteous. even inferior/tert Fe can be self righteous and "detached" from whatever it is they're upset about. breeder isn't, he's just EMOTIONAL
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>>69721559
He's drunk, aynon. He always is these days
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>>69721575
aynon? is that an accent?
>>69721504
i see, so it's like...the pain of loss (probably stemming from childhood fears like enneagram does) propels them into being psychopaths with their nothing to lose Se disposition
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>>69721474
I think this should be reworded to something like:
>How many people in this thread are mistyped as Si doms or aux
The answer, probably over half. There's a shit ton of ISTJs here that mistype themselves as INTPs, for example.
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>>69721667
Kinda, the sx2 is afraid that they'll be abandoned unless they force the other to love them through a variety of seduction and abuse. The sx8 is similar does it to cope with their fear of vulnerability, making cruel, exaggerated displays of dominance but also submission to take nibbles at their secret desire to feel safe at the mercy of others
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>grew again
>google says i'm too old to be getting taller
>i don't know my birth date, estimated off of unreliable memories
>realize it's probably about time i try to get my birth certificate from my psychotic father

I am a man of constant sorrow
I've seen trouble all my days
https://youtu.be/zHamgwlQ1yo
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>>69721066
i haven't been here in days. just had a nice conversation with a little black girl at work. she's interesting, seems smart and seems maybe interested in me, asking when i get off work and mentioned a specific bar despite not liking bars during a conversation about drinking.

>>69721223
meh, love isn't real. people are illusions. that's life. people show you what they want to and it's rare that it goes deeper than that.
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FUCK the faggot who came here masquerading as breeder and made me lose my faith in him
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>>69721772
You've piqued my interest, elaborate. How exactly do you recognize ISTJs mistyped as INTPs?
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>>69721386
I guess you could say that. I would happily torture and murder anyone who came between me and Narancia.
And I love the idea of him as a yandere. It's both super hot and believable for his canon character.
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>>69721781
how old are you if it's not a secret
maybe there is hope for me after all...
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>>69721899
do you think yandere-yandere relationships would work?
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>>69721926
if google is to be believed fucking 16 at most lmao, though some say 18-20 so it's possible she's allowed to post here
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>>69721947
is it possible if you're above 20
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>>69701511
I'd like a wedding which lasts the whole weekend and a honeymoon that continues for many nights. Maybe christened with the tears of one wizard who thought he'd like to separate us. "We were inevitable". I'd like to tell him.

But feelers don't tolerate my unsociable hours and occasional cold nature. Sensors and I work well together but my intimacy is too elaborate for them. Thinker on thinker is cool or colder than a mental hospital corridor at midnight. Ni is incest. Ne too scattered.

I'd settle for a family I can take care of within a competent community in a worthwhile country of meritful people who give a shit. But all we get greed, profit and mental illness instead. It makes me sigh.
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>>69721966
If you were been malnourished or just on the skinnier side for most of your life then yeah Im pretty sure its possible. I got like an inch taller at 21 but Im a guy so it might be different
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>>69722000
so there is hope after all!
this gives me some motivation
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>>69721947
i estimated 20, but my math is incredibly sloppy. i know i was born after 2000, but i don't know when. i counted up every year i could remember actively (already messy because i only went to school for three years in elementary so marking a new year is total guesswork), then added five for all the years i would have been a child and not remembered anything. it's possible i'm older than 20, but because of the fact that i grew again, it's likely i'm younger, which would be weird, but also hopeful because it means i have less time before i'm old and nobody wants me. i assumed on the older side of the age spectrum because of how puberty had taken effect; full beard, deep voice, hairy balls, etc

>>69721947
i'm an indigenous australian man. the tomboy thing was a running joke because another regular always liked to act romantic to percieved women and i went along with it for one thread, and it's been called back to frequently. i'm getting a little sick of newfaggots taking it seriously.
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>>69722071
Hey man even if you are a little older it's fine, bitches can respect a gray fox. Women on the other hand? Hooo, wall comes fast and hard
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>>69721992
you're an incredibly deliberate person, and every time you speak i feel like you have written multiple drafts, then edited those drafts, then redrafted them and reformatted them a few more times. how and why?
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>>69722097
grey fox only works if you're white anon. plus, i want to experience young love before i'm no longer young.
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>>69722071
>estimated 20, but my math is incredibly sloppy. i know i was born after 2000, but i don't know when.
neat
what sort of diet do you have and how much do you sleep?
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>>69721884
You can recognize the perception function someone is using by their speech patterns. I can't exactly detail how it's done, but if you understand the basic premise behind a function you can do it fairly reliably. Si is known to function based off of "subjective impressions". So if someone uses a lot of speech which implies they're acting based on their own subjective impression a lot, you can infer that they're likely Si dom or aux. This premise applies to all of the functions.
One very easy way to identify sensors in general, is how they react to metaphors. Many sensors will see metaphors as a comparison, rather than a metaphor. This is especially true for Si dom/aux.
I've also noticed that Si dom/aux cannot reliably create metaphors, though this is purely anecdotal. But I've not been disproven in this belief yet.
This all has to do with how Si functions off of impressions.

It's past my bed time now though.
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>>69722071
interesting
you don't have any official papers at all?
are you completely off the grid?
is that even possible?
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>>69722223
I don't know man that just sounds like any kind of introversion. Also please give an example of seeing metaphors as a comparison, I could see how someone more practically minded would be geared to assume more utilitarian intentions and neglect more poetic, representational=y stuff but in everyday communication I imagine most people don't bother to use metaphors regardless of their s/n preference and unconsciously filter it
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I'm so haphazard and unedited, I can't decide if you're being serious.

I have to slow down and think it through or else there won't be a reply at all. I'd usually say "yes, I'm getting married. No, I won't take the deal". But there's no point in that. A thread full of thoughtless non-answers.
But if I think through the reply too much, I'll keep omitting things until it disappears. I have to "ready, fire, aim" sometimes. Hence the recurring silly mistakes. If I was applying for college, I'd edit those out. This is just banter.
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I even forget to push the original post sometimes.
>>69722100
Unless by "how and why" you wanted the recipe on how I think. Which I don't have a quick answer for. Analytics are my goto interface with the outside world.
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>>69722189
lots of eggs, fish, rice, and vegetables. soup often, grilled meats, stir fries, that kind of thing. never eat junk food or snack food, didn't grow up on it and it makes me feel sick. i fish and garden and sometimes hunt, but mostly birds and small game. we did kill a boar once but we don't like the process of skinning it and everything so we mostly stick to stuff we can eat in one sitting.

i probably get maybe 6 hours of sleep at night, 8 on a good night. i have constant nightmares and wake up frozen at around 5am most days.

>>69722275
i don't know. hell, i don't even know if my birth certificate exists, i just hope it does. i don't have any papers or licenses on me and i work for a family member who pays me off record, and i live in near isolation. life is just weird.
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>>69722325
>>69722450
but that's interesting. you just said if you were thorough, you'd cut things out. for me, being thorough is adding more on. that's a juxtaposition.

what types or functions would be associated with a "grow then prune" style of writing, and what would be associated with "build brick by brick"

or is that actually Ne/Ni summarized?
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>>69722474
i guess being a hunter has it's own benefits...
I'll try tryharding on eating more eggs and fish too. Maybe i'll grow a bit as well. Would be neat if i grew at least a couple cm
>i don't know. hell, i don't even know if my birth certificate exists, i just hope it does. i don't have any papers or licenses on me and i work for a family member who pays me off record, and i live in near isolation. life is just weird
you should probably get that sorted out anon. Living off the grid has its benefits but you could get in deep shit if there's a completely unregistered person living around
especially in aussieland
lizard pedophiles do love their registrations and lists...
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>>69722552
i also come from a long line of men who are built like they could wrestle a charging bison to a standstill, so. genetics play into the growth, as apprehensive as it makes me feel. i do need to get my papers in order, but i really don't want to see my old man ever again. i almost didn't make it out the first time, not really sure if I'm emotionally ready for that kind of confrontation. i wouldn't go alone obviously but it's still probably going to be one of the hardest things i'll ever do. i was hoping he'd die or something and i could get it without fuss, but people in my bloodline also live long lives (my grandfather allegedly reached 110 but i cannot verify) so i probably can't count on an early death. i need to move on with my life. biting the bullet is going to fucking suck though.
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I've been sick for the past week, and it's during these times I wish there was someone who'd look after me. It's a bit lonely (and tiresome) to be locked in my apartment all day, too tired to even text someone, and having to drag myself to the doctor even though I'm feeling like a corpse. I was also on the verge of losing my sanity due to the isolation...

But I'm feeling better now! I have all these bills piling up, but I'm sure things will be back to normal in a couple of months.

>>69701511
>Do you want to get married?
Yes, I'd love to!
>If so, what type would you like to get married to?
Mmmm... I have no preference. I used to be inclined towards INTJ or other Introverted Intuitive type, but at least here, neither seems keen on dating ENFJs. And also, type doesn't guarantee compatibility, so I gave up on being partial towards a type in particular.
>What types do you think are most and least suited for marriage?
I haven't seen many EXTP too enthusiastic about marriage.

>>69682345
> Oh no! :( I hope it's not bad! Get well soon!
Thank you Turbie!

>C-could you tell me what was in it? :3c
The fanart? It was that picrew together with a Turbie blob! I'll try to make another one :)

>>69694044
> I'm going to beat up that guy for breaking ENFJ-senpai's heart
Anon, don't get so worked up over me, plus it's been a couple of years already.
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>>69721494
Explaim your answers
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>>69722659
you are bigger, stronger, more experienced and more wise now anon. You should be able to face him. And once this difficult part is over, you will never have to think of him again. Hell, you may even win some stuff out of it, considering he ...err wasn't the best father...
You can do it anon, i believe in you!
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>>69722519
It's probably Te vs Ti.
Whenever I try to complain, it doesn't work. I start out strong, bitching and moaning, but before long I see a beautiful to-do list coming together and I'd rather brew a coffee and get crackin'. It's more interesting than being pitiful. And then the day is over and I'm crossing things out, I have to admit "aw crap, I forgot to cry about it". Humans cry. I'm human. What gives? I don't know.
Ti is happy to add complexity to a system. Even if that system doesn't need it. Even if it would benefit from less. Hence the saying among professional Tis to "KISS your project". Reminding them to be frugal with limited resources (such as time) helps.
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>>69722780
thanks anon. he was a real piece of work though. i'm bringing a gun and backup when i do it, just in case. which will probably be... awhile. i'm not eager.
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>>69722804
i cry frequently, but i never sob. i'll be cooking breakfast and tears will run down my face and i feel incredibly sad, but i don't shake or make any noise. i'm not sure if that counts as crying anyway.

i understand the checklist thing though, i love checklists like you wouldn't believe. give me a task list and i'll kill it. (catch 20 fish and weed the garden). give me a nebulous mission statement and i drown. (increase your social capacity and try to make friends)
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>>69722815
who knows
maybe the time has given him some wisdom and he will listen to reason, but you don't sound very confident in that. Hopefully things won't get violent.
>i'm not eager
it's understandable, but once it's over you will feel so much better.

I must get to bed now
goodnight anon
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>>69722815
Good lord, woman. Maybe tell the sheriffs first. They'll probably help to avoid things getting that far out of hand.

>>69722843
>nebulous mission statement
And that's not your fault. That's a task being poorly assigned.
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>>69722947
>tell the sheriff
to be brief: it is very complicated and that's not an option
>task is being poorly assigned
yeah. still needs doing.

>>69722896
if he was capable of wisdom, that would only make him much more terrifying. his recklessness is the only weakness i'm aware of. one day, i'll be free of the weight of only being free one day. sleep tight anon.
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>>69719855
Does this also mean ISFPs are more likely to be sex crazed? Asking for a friend
>>69721371
Isn't Toga from My Hero an ESFP? She seems pretty yandere to me. Also yes, INTPs can be yandere. I mean shit, i thought you were one?
>>69722680
>it's during these times I wish there was someone who'd look after me
I fucking LOVE taking care of others. I always feel so bad when my friends get sick and i can't go see them and make them soup or tuck them in or anything to make them feel a bit better. It actually HURTS. I also tend to check in on my best friends alot to see if they're ok. My INTP bestie likes it, so it's my excuse to keep doing it every once in a while. It makes me happy.
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Is the ENTJ subreddit a good representation of female ENTJs?
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Why is there no support group for people who have been led on by INFJs?
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>>69723731
https://www.reddit.com/r/BPDlovedones/
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>>69723744
got a good laugh out of me. why are all infjs bpd?
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>>69720907
I remember. You recommended INFJ.

>>69721228
Why?
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How do I stop SNOOZING all day? I'm so freaking sick and dehydrated, and I feel like I've wasted another week by sleeping it off.

>>69704189
It just sounds larpy and antiquated. Like when someone refers to having a wife I half expect them to offer me 3 goats and a carrot for another one. What even is a wife?

>>69722071
Adding five is too many imo. Plenty of people remember at least something from when they're 2 even if it is kind of foggy an non-literal. Also you are remembering to include year zero right?

>>69707026
>did I get them right
I'd swap I and C

>>69702303
Oh boo hoo, parents divorce all the time and the kids turn out fine. Let me guess, you think women with terminal illnesses shouldn't reproduce either? Pfft! Nobody would ever be born if you had to make sure absolutely nothing bad could happen in the next 25 years first.
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>>69722325
from left
INTP, ENTP, INTJ, ENTJ right?
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>>69723788
>Makima
I like how the author tried their hardest to make her a bad love interest to Denji yet people continue fawning over her
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>>69723860
Even if the kids aren't traumatized forever, divorce still causes months to years of emotional pain for them. It's not something you want to knowingly sign kids up for.
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>>69724002
Swap INTP and ENTP, but yeah
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i miss when centaur was a quirky and charming strange kid and not a quasi-sociopath
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Pdb's UI gets worse and worse every day.
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>>69724011
Are you saying it's better for them to have never been born than to have their parents split up? Obviously I'd rather have kids that didn't have to go through a divorce but that's not an option and also it's never guaranteed even without a Wizard meddling. Maybe you don't get it because you're not an incel but I'd leap at the opportunity to be with a woman for any amount of time.

>>69724080
Everything on the internet's UI gets worse every day. It's really crumbling. I hope you like unblockable autoplay video ads lol.
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>>69724058
I've been saying this for years, long term loneliness is making me a worse person in every way
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>>69718159
what for? please dont say your learning it for fun
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I want to date a regular. Which ones are the most and least likely to cheat on me?
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>>69724194
I'll never cheat on you. Which regular seems the most datable to you?
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>>69723001
Everything I could say, you already know. Keep your wits about you. Don't become dead.

>>69723569
I've never been. If you feel like linking one, I'll look.
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>>69724232
Mosley is probably the ideal husband, but all of them have their charm.
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>>69724263
Send tag then, please!
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>>69724194
The only guaranteed cheaters are Sophie and Breeder. Everyone else should be safe.
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>>69723788
You remembered the INFJ and not our talk about restlessness? "The important stuff", huh. You just lived my attached picture.

The fault-finding state of mind is not restricted to any type. All of them do it. But it has different ways of expressing itself so it may seem different.
Being greatful for now is the only way not to jump to the next thing. Recall how you don't get distracted when you're doing something very enjoyable. "Time flies" and all that. Someone who is difficult to please for some reason, will have a monkey-mind. Jumping from thing to thing. Always looking. Rarely satisfied for long.
I won't blame you for forgetting since text on a page is nothing like having it lovingly applied to your mind and body.
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>>69724080
The website's UI has grown on me, I just wish there was a light theme.

I like how comments are permalinked now, but most people still tell you to "scroll down and read my augment".
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>>69724111
You ever just want to do something crazy and out of character? Maybe even a little desperate?
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>>69724751
every now and then, why?
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>>69724783
Imagine going of the deep end and deliberately socializing with someone.
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>>69724826
Not sure what you mean by that desu. What is socializing and how do I do it with someone?
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>>69718949
That sounds nice maybe I'll legitimately try it one day when I am actually able to
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>>69724856
if you're feeling "crazy", "out of character" and "desperate", are you going to be so reasoned about it? You won't do it without a definition and a standard procedure? Can that be called crazy to you?
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Would sophie be creeped out if I told her I have sexual and romantic feelings for her?
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>>69723773
Bully robot forbidding terseness again.
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>>69722815
Do you really know for sure if you'll actually be able to get a gun? When you're gonna get it?(if you haven't already)
If you don't know for sure this could really take a long ass while. Which is probably not that bad for you seeing this is the kind of thing I'd be glad I can get to put off for much later
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>>69725018
Gonna throw in that Abe was offed by a "gun".
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>>69725052
Who's abe
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>>69720774
>The inner sensation is literally represented as a snake in their abdomen. For Ni doms, (nearly) everything that happens within themselves is represented as some other abstract object/image.
What I'm saying is that the fact it might represent something about the user is established later. Intuition in itself doesn't assign "meanings".
>Read Jung
Ahem
>the images appear as though detached from the subject, as though existing in themselves without relation to the person.
>Consequently, in the above-mentioned example, the introverted intuitive, when affected by the giddiness, would not imagine that the perceived image might also in some way refer to himself. Naturally, to one who is rationally orientated, such a thing seems almost unthinkable, but it is none the less a fact, and I have often experienced it in my dealings with this type
> the introverted intuitive moves from image to image, chasing after every possibility in the teeming womb of the unconscious, without establishing any connection between the phenomenon and himself. Just as the world can never become a moral problem for the man who merely senses it, so the world of images is never a moral problem to the intuitive. To the one just as much as to the other, it is an aesthenic problem, a question of perception, a 'sensation'. In this way, the consciousness of his own bodily existence fades from the introverted intuitive's view, as does its effect upon others.
>What does this mean for me and for the world? What emerges from this vision in the way of a duty or task, either for me or for the world? The pure intuitive who represses judgment or possesses it only under the spell of perception never meets this question fundamentally, since his only problem is the How of perception.
He made it clear enough that if it ever comes to the point the type is asking about the "meaning" of their images, it's because he is using Thinking and Feeling.
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>>69725058
Former Japanese prime minister who was shot and killed by a homemade gun.
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I can't scold you. Anyone else, I can shoot from the hip. But not you. There's this honesty to everything that you do. Diplomacy is often a chore. But with you, compassion is natural and effortless.
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>Vegetarian for 3 months
>don't get sick once
>Try eating meat again
>Violently throwing up within two weeks
Carnists explain yourselves!

>>69724893
Well I can't do much without knowing what it is I'm doing can I?
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>>69725171
People who have become unhinged don't often know what they are doing, do they? I meant become you becoming uninhibited enough to try stuff without know what you're doing.

So the answer was actually no, you wouldn't do anything crazy, out of character or desperate.
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>>69725229
Of course not, I'm secretly very reserved and avoid any interaction I can't plan out exactly what will happen ahead of time. I can think about being spontaneous every now and then though
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>>69725125
Oh right that's what you meant
You're right that just making your own gun would maybe work here
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>>69725254
You can you think to be so reserved without fearing your own cage? You certainly hate the isolation. Become uninhibited!

Thanks for comprehending through the typos. Evidently, I am become sleep.
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>>69725310
I fear the smaller cage I'd end up in from showing my hand. I understand that my norms and morals are different from most people and have a hard time not taking things too far. Also I'm an iconic memorable character that can't hide in a crowd. Right now I can still go to the supermarket without being harassed ect
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>>69725381
That's very reasoned. Could you smile and wave? If you're well-meaning, wouldn't you be treated with indifference at worst?
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>>69725445
I smile and wave all the time lol, it just never goes any deeper than that because it doesn't take long for people to realize I'm a psychotic wierdo.
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And therefore want to stop interacting with me. I do best when I do "shock and awe socializing" since I know I'm on a timer. Big goofy grin, be charming, get out as fast as possible. But again this only works when I've had time to prepare, because otherwise I just come off as a creep.
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>>69725472
Aren't you too reasoned to be psychotic? What if you talked to other psychotic weirdos?

https://ibpf.org/the-do%C2%92s-and-don%C2%92ts-when-visiting-someone-in-a-psychiatric-hospital/#:~:text=DO%20visit%20when%20you%20can%3B%20but%20always%20ask,the%20daily%20hospital%20routine.%20I%20love%20getting%20visitors.
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>>69725520
I meant it non literally. The point is I come accross as both strange and a danger to myself and others to a lot of people
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>>69725552
I don't completely understand, but I get that you're judged poorly.
But that's strange because if the interaction isn't too lengthy, people don't usually mind saying hello and maybe some small talk. Unless you go to the market dressed as an actual centaur, I can't imagine why they wouldn't. Or maybe you live in a war zone.

I'll have to think about it.
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>>69725616
Americans wouldn't get it, you're too pure
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Last for wolverine eff deadpool
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I'd wolverine down thumbless chuck's deadpoo



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