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Why is the main stream promoting shit that literally makes people kill themselves? What do they gain from it?
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Same reason why other unnecessary """medical""" services like circumcision get pushed, there's a lot of money to be made. Tranny shit isn't cheap, a single person getting tricked into it could be worth 100k or more to big pharma.
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>>70315121
If you're talking about transitioning, there's an obvious profit at the level of pharma, therapy, plastic surgery, beauty product, etc.. At the level of individuals, I think most people don't care about the actual implications of things so much as the trappings of what they represent. It's why politics in general is more about optics than actual policy.
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>>70315121
>Not fully consider the decision to remove their dick
>Miss it
>Blame "le big globohomo pharma" for doing a surgery on them that they requested, paid for, went to a psychologist for, and got approved for
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>>70315121
DUDE. i warned you guys so hard about that tranny shit. like how do people fall for this
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like what kind of Overlord, Queen Elizabeth psyop took place to turn this many trannies
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>>70315121
>What do they gain from it?
makes a lot of $$$, literally profiting from mentally ill. no different from 'homeless measures' taken by cities that just siphon everything up meant for them. well, this is different in they actually irreversibly mutilate someone on the taxpayers dollar.
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>>70315121
It's like David cronenberg body horror movie holy fuck
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>>70315121
lol I feel the exact same things about circumcision as in picrel, but probably on a 1/1000 scale and it is still pretty bad man.
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>>70315121
Yea but I keep saying this. There's a way to get their penis back, no big deal
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>>70315121
>What do they gain from it?
You imagine this group of people coming up with ideas to help people and make society better, there is no group and there never will be.

"Mainstream" media as you call it (it's just media you don't like) goes with the flow, it is subject to the whims of the consumers that feed it.
They will say and outwardly present an image that makes them appealing to the consumer base.

If you were alive 40 years ago, you'd have noticed media and business appeased Christians because boomers were 90% Christian and they had all the money.
The DAY Christianity lost power, influence, and disposable income they dropped Yahweh like wet trash bag full of horse shit, because they don't care at all. They want eyes on their shows and asses in the seats, anything else is meaningless.
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although it's all kino body horror. This is a lesson to NEVER trust doctors and surgeons, they are enforcers of big pharma and the medical industry and are absolute psychopaths who only care about their own wellbeing.
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>>70315121
why do people support short sighted solutions they thought was kind hearted but cause more damage in the long run?
women can vote and guys who want to fuck them pretend they are smart.
its the same with immigration. the numbers say that even with twice as many refugees it wouldn't make a difference since five times as many new ones are born.
its like letting a rotweiler puppy do whatever it wants because its cute and only when you have an ill behaved 40kg dog do you realize your mistake.
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>>70315848
i wonder what they even expected. you cut off your boobs and work out a little and you'll look like zyzz?
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>>70315121
Groupthink is a powerful thing, and dissent in even the most minor of ways can have grave consequences. People were branded heretics for not following what was their subculture's denomination of the dominant religion, and the same phenomenon surfaces in today's society with hot button political issues. It doesn't even matter if you're not strictly neo-con on the issue, say you don't follow one small part of it and you're cast out to wallow among the fascists.
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>>70315121
A weaker goyim and the perfect enforcers for them (they do it for free, not a shekel paid).
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>>70315121
>no guys ostracizing and fucking despising a group of people with a neurological condition isn't what makes them kill themselves
>they all kill themselves because they get surgery even though only a tiny fraction of them actually get it!
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>>70315121
>Want to reduce the population
>Trick liberals into sterilizing themselves because they are "transgender"
>actual people with gender dysphoria should be treated with pimozide, but aren't receiving this effective treatment because it implies that being transgender is a mental disorder
this meatworld is clownworld
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>>70316573
>still peddling the pimozide meme
that treatment worked for 1 (one) single man.
by all accounts, and sure they're anecdotal, anti-psychotics just dont work for the treatment of gender dysphoria.
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>>70315773
Why do they ALWAYS make transgender dicks significantly larger than average? I am literally top 5% dick mogger and that flaccid is like 7 inches.
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>>70316597
if you could choose the size of your cock would you not make it MASSIVE?
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>>70316597
Because it doesn't work like a normal dick. The inflatable tubes they put in to make it erect are doesn't change size, it just goes up and back down when deflated.
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>>70315773
These people are truly mentally sick and need help. Any surgeon who agrees to do such things should have their rights to operate taken away.
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>>70316588
>1 successful case
>no plans for further testing
This is the point I was making. There is evidence of a suppression of symptoms, most notably the suicidal thoughts.
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>>70315773
Why does it look like that
They aren't even trying are they
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A couple of months ago I dreamed I had my hair back.
Thick, black, long, the hairline of the 20 year old me.
God it still hurts remembering how happy I was in my dream.

Why did I have to go bald?
Why God, why would you do this to me?
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In America, you can chop off your dick within a few counseling sessions before you can legally have beer.
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>>70316636
even if the suppression of suicidal thoughts was something that was present in all patients w/ GD that used Pimozide why would the majority of them choose to attack an offshoot of the problem instead of the roots?
why choose to wander through life as a numb zombie instead of being able to feel some semblance of happiness for once?
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>>70316668
where i come from we call this a hot carl
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>>70316671
If by happiness you mean this >>70315773 I truly think you should be locked away.
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>>70316597
because most ftms have severe penis envy, and also decide to overcompensate about being 5'2" by giving themselves the biggest dick they possibly can
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>>70315773
>>70315848
I don't want to live in a world with people like this. I feel sad and disgusted.
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>>70316726
This. The more folks come out like this and more folks think it's normal/promote this shit the more disgusted I am by the human race. 30% of them are like literal freaks and only oppression and fear can keep them in check.
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>>70316707
the idea of dysphoria and being so desperate that you're willing to give away your genitals in exchange for poor copies of the opposite sex's ones is such an incredibly foreign idea for people like you.
i'm pretty sure it's impossible to understand unless you have gender dysphoria yourself.
thus i will not waste my time and energy attempting to explain it again.
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>>70316671
Suicide in transgender patients is extremely high and remains alarmingly high after current therapies. The idea that we shouldn't be mitigating this risk runs counter to duty to do no harm.
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>>70316786
>>70316563
originalposthere
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>>70315121
>reddit
>main stream
>implying dying is bad
kill yourself
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>>70316573
>treating diseases with neurotoxins
Psychiatry is original part of clown world.
Treating mental illnesses with neuroleptics are modern day equivalent of treating syphilis with mercury.
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>>70316786
Turning someone into lobotomized zombie is effective solution to gender disphoria as castrating them.
Faggots like you are no different than sjws.
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>>70316772
>poor copies of the opposite sex's ones
Those are not poor copies, those are man made horrors. People with gender dysphoria need help and medication and absolutely no one should play make-believe with them. Assisting to this human centipedesque procedure is a literal sin.
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>>70316832
This is how we treat other conditions with similar suicide risks. My sister was a bipolar schizophrenic and was treated using medication. She would have offed herself in her teens if she wasn't constantly medicated.
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>>70316563
You're making a claim that's unable to be proven or disproven... therefore it's entirely irrelevant. Millions of nerdy teens get bullied and their suicide rate isn't in the 40%+ range.
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>>70316844
>>70316855
then by all means work on something that doesnt make trannies feel worse than transitioning and actually works.
how many trannies do you even encounter day to day? it can't be much. people with actual gender dysphoria only make up 1% of the population
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No refunds you impressionable homo
I've been 19 for a whole year, 19 is plenty old enough to know cutting your dick off is a bad idea
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>>70315121
Americans lack any and all forms of community and collective identity, but worship happiness. Hyper individualism is alienating and results in a lack of happiness. Americans form extremely shallow communities which are basically just dopamine generating pseudo-cults, all to cope with their lack of real communities based on shared traditions and actual devotion to something greater than themselves (because this devotion, while providing purpose and context for their lives, could also result in dogmatism or suffering). They lack the self-awareness to recognize that they are still dogmatists, but they blindly worship the pursuit of happiness above anything else, even when that happiness is only temporary and has long-term consequences (this also helps explain their obesity, drug, and general consumerist problems).
tl;dr: many first world normies belong to a monomaniacal profit-worshipping cult, with economic profit being defined as money and cultural profit being defined as dopamine.
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>>70316866
i can't imagine most of those nerdy teens are being bullied for some unchangeable fact of their life. you could always wear a different outfit, use contact lenses, change the way you speak or act.
you can also detransition but the dysphoria will still be there. it'll probably be worse now that you realize there's no hope for you whatsoever. even if you do detransition and stop acting like a fag who's to say you won't still be antagonized?
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>>70316573
if they actually wanted to reduce the population of the country, they would stop constantly importing herds of subsaharans
if they actually wanted to reduce the world population, they would stop constantly sending food over to starving subsaharans who only seem to grow in number since they just breed as much as their resources allow them to
it is like creating a mouse utopia
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>>70315566
yeah, but medical professionals are supposed to STOP people from mutilating their bodies out of self-hate and psychosis, not rubber stamp it.
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>>70316597
don't worry, they fall off in under 5 years on average (or get infected and everything but a tiny nub has to get cut off)
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>>70315121
Bet that once this happens to some people, they go kinda crazy and try and convince others to go through with it just to make them "experience" what they have.
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>>70316671
the issue is, youve bought the medicalizer lie that transforming your body into a crude resemblance of a woman/man helps anyone. if anything, it seems to make people crazier, because they have what they thought they wanted, and they still arent happy, so they lash out. They may not be "depressed" anymore, but only because its more of a manic narcissistic psychosis.

And the inevitable onset of bodily degradation and declining health around 30 that always seems to follow these heavily medicated & surgeried people makes this all the worse. Their life has gone to absolute shit and they know it, but they will never ever ever admit its because they fell for stupid, stupid psychologist lies and traded their health, precious unrecoverable health, for a fleeting bit of narcissistic joy.
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>>70316910
>i can't imagine most of those nerdy teens are being bullied for some unchangeable fact of their life.

What if they are bullied for being ugly or neurodivergent? Both of those are unchangeable and millions of kids get made fun of for it, yet most of them dont kill themselves.
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>>70317010
okay, anonymous, thanks for your reply
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>>70316644
i have it the other way around.
i often dream my hair falls off.
i savor every moment i have hair not as spite against those who dont but because i am well aware it can be taken away from me at some point in my life.
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>>70317021
in the real world ugly and neurodivergent people aren't ostracized by they're friends and family after school, they aren't abandoned by the people that made and raised them, not to mention they have help and at most the backlash they receive for doing what they need to do to feel happy is minimal.
plastic surgery and medication that actually works is available for most of them.
trannies don't get the relief of knowing they'll be out of someone's crosshairs after highschool because their existence goes against everything normal people have been taught and that makes them feel uncomfortable.
and if they just don't transition then that's a life of wallowing in misery, getting older as the chances of them ever feeling like a normal happy person get smaller.
>inb4 what about (situation that virtually never happens)
im speaking broadly, what i described is reality for most people, dont be obtuse.
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>>70317021
yeah like...what the fuck kind of thing is that to say? waaay more people are bullied for being ugly or a spaz. classic transer "only we have real problems" shit
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>>70317137
>in the real world ugly and neurodivergent people aren't ostracized by they're friends and family after school, they aren't abandoned by the people that made and raised them, not to mention they have help and at most the backlash they receive for doing what they need to do to feel happy is minimal.
this is horseshit

And regular uggos dont get plastic surgery on taxpayer dime, dumbass

Why are you declaring that gender nonconforming people inevitably wallow in misery? Many people mature and learn to love themselves as they are.

Theres also the fact that by LITERALLY CASTRATING an entire segment of the population, you are actively committing genocide by any definition.
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the nastiest part about it is that the same people who encourage this and call people out for not supporting this would rather wait for the next bus than sit next to these freaks.
i wouldn't either but at least i dont lie about it to make me look better than i am.
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>>70317173
Most normies still think transwomen are all fun HSTS drag queens and transmen are all butch dykes, when 90% of both are AGPs/fakebois at this point
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>>70317140
okay.
>>70317161
>this is horseshit
read the bottom of my post and then elaborate.
>And regular uggos dont get plastic surgery on taxpayer dime, dumbass
neither do trannies, what's your point?
if being ugly affected them that much they'd work to fix it.
>Why are you declaring that gender nonconforming people inevitably wallow in misery? Many people mature and learn to love themselves as they are.
you are equating a neurological condition to simple dysmorphia.
>Theres also the fact that by LITERALLY CASTRATING an entire segment of the population, you are actively committing genocide by any definition.
if that's how you want to paint that then all power to you.
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>>70317209
what part of your post? you really think autists, spazzes and uglies just grow up and have a perfectly fine time in the workplace? they really dont.

transers do indeed get all sorts of government funded plastic surgery, are you shtting me with this? They call it "affirmation surgery" but wheres my "chad affirmation surgery"? its all cosmetic surgery one way or the other. If we accept the idea that cosmetic surgery can be deemed medically necessary if someone is sad enough, then why is it limited to trans people and burn victims? why isnt there a board for assessing if some khhv is SOO SAD that he'll probably kill himself without surgery? If psychiatrists claim they can make this assessment about trans people, why dont they help other people too?

thanks for supporting the queer genocide btw. isnt it great how when you call sterilization an "affirmation" the undesirable queers will eat it up and fight for their right to holocaust themselves? ez nazi tricks, quite simply played.
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>>70315121
When is it going to be mainstream to draw attention to their suicide rate? Maybe a Superbowl commercial that raises the alarm. It would be considered hate speech to say anything about it, even if the tone of the commercial was like a compassionate PSA. They'll act like, They only commit suicide because of hate speech like this!" It's not hateful to point this out, anymore than it would be hateful to point out the risks of smoking
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>>70317273
>what part of your post? you really think autists, spazzes and uglies just grow up and have a perfectly fine time in the workplace? they really dont.
if you're really ugly and work with immature people or if you're autistic then i'm sure navigating the social landscape of a job would be difficult. sure i'll give you that.
>its all cosmetic surgery one way or the other. If we accept the idea that cosmetic surgery can be deemed medically necessary if someone is sad enough, then why is it limited to trans people and burn victims? why isnt there a board for assessing if some khhv is SOO SAD that he'll probably kill himself without surgery? If psychiatrists claim they can make this assessment about trans people, why dont they help other people too?
burn victims don't look human, they're so removed from what is considered normal it's only fair to give them that sort of help.
gender dysphoria is also listed in the big book of types of crazy so i guess that's grounds to help them with what they need aswell.
maybe if Being-Sad-Because-Youre-Ugly disease was listed in the book you'd be able to get the help you needed. i don't write the world's rules but i understand how you can think they're unfair when you've never been in the other side's shoes.
>thanks for supporting the queer genocide btw. isnt it great how when you call sterilization an "affirmation" the undesirable queers will eat it up and fight for their right to holocaust themselves? ez nazi tricks, quite simply played.
you act as though having kids is the ultimate purpose of life and if you don't do it you burn in hell for eternity.
why the fuck would i want to bring more people onto this planet just for them to have to deal with my inherent problems and suffer for literally no reason other than bringing me small bouts of happiness?
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>>70315158
Is this a real schizophrenic, or are you just larping? Say some more schizo stuff if you're a real schizo
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>>70315808
So there's a "they"? Who's "they"? Da Jooz"?
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>>70317399
why, the living of course
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How should I insulate my ceiling? I want to use rigid foam board, a vapor barrier and drywall. How much space needs to be between the ceiling boards, fosm board, vapor barrier, and drywall? Do I need to leave any airgaps?
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>>70315121
You're making a big deal out of the few that regret it but what about all the people that are happy with it. All the people that transitioning has saved?
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>>70315121
Meanwhile, that dude in pic-rel is currently the hero of internet. Kaffels, who Kiwifarm "harassed" (understand documented his grooming), has been promoting and selling DIY HRT to minors and bragging about it on twitter, and is geting the world's supporting him from every front. That tranny has been telling children in private how to buy and use this bathtube HRT without their parents knowing, having a "catboy ranch" discord fetishizing feminisation with a NSFW channel and countless minors in. And anyone who dare to voice concernes or criticize him get deplateformed and reduced to silence, they get harassed, doxxed, their family and friends too, all while everyone clap.

You can dislike KF but it's crazy that even Russia and China stopped hosting him, people even post pictures of his mother on twitter to "punish" him. No matter the who host him they get kaffels supporters on their ass and sharing their address, family and everything, post them around and pressure them until they kneel. Never saw such an overwhelming support reaching other countries, making all big companies remove any opposing voice. All media outlet celebrating kaffels "victory", while he actively push kids to start transition as early as possible.
At this rate it's gonna be children happily getting the surgery in middle school.
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>>70315623
See >>70317880
Guy made shit ton of money selling "homemade" HRT to children, and yes, he's currently supported by the whole internet has a victim of harassment because people pointed out the issue.
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>>70316959
maybe stop bullying medical lrofessionals when they try to stop someone then?
fucking trannies, blaming everyone for their fucked up behaviour
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>>70315158
This, the whole thing started out as a PR campaign by AbbVie. It's gone a bit off the fucking rails since then, but I don't think they're complaining.
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>>70315566
These people are delusional and mentally unwell. They need therapy. Blame society for affirming their beliefs.
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>>70315121
weak men dont start revolutions
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>>70315121
It makes sense to not cut off your penis if technology can't give you a functional vagina in return, but I guess trannies learn the hard way. Fuck them.
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>>70315773
I think that poor girl never touched a real dick as the trooners have never touched a real vag.
It's the strangest way to obtain a desired object, by mutilation you think you can obtain something out of your own flesh.
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>>70315566
It is ultimately the tranny's fault however that doesn't mean the people that push it have a clear conscious. The people that push this stuff need to lie, gaslight and give unrealistic expectations (otherwise no one would do it), in any other situation this would be considered fraud.
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>>70316542
>wallow among the fascists
Lol, the eternal boomer.
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Trannies killing themselves before they get killed by christcucks is nothing new kek
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>>70317371
Are you stupid? He said facts. Trannies pay a ton of money for their demented surgery, the rest is just typical exploitation
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another day another dab on trannies
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>>70315121
because they are confused and want to avoid real issues which they have no real answers to so they virtue signal to minorites in an increasingly stupid way.
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>>70315121
Apart from money, I feel the issue is that conventional therapy also doesn't work well for gender dysphoria. Basically, we're stuck at a stage where nothing really works well for them. Studies have shown that those who transitioned felt better, but there was a lack of follow up studies to know if the changes hold up in the long term. So do you do something to try to alleviate their distress, or do you do nothing about it?
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>>70317161
>Theres also the fact that by LITERALLY CASTRATING an entire segment of the population, you are actively committing genocide by any definition.
Hold up, bros perhaps this gender surgery thing is not that bad?
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>>70315121
Why does /r9k/ promote suicide? there is a dozen threads about it every single day. It's not the mainstream pushing it but fellow robots.
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>>70318986
We are fucking evil
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>>70319000
speak for yourself. You're not even over 9000
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honestly, why care about what idiots do with their bodies
they will live to regret it
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>>70317532
Id leave at least 5 cm gap between the actual roof roof and then put in boards, insulation, and some form of moisture barrier, boards, drywall
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>>70318986
This is a board that adheres to the rights of bodily-autonomy.
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>>70319377
What boards are you referring to? Like OSB? And why the 5cm gap?
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>>70317362
Nta and ignoring most of what you're saying, but
>it's only fair to give them that sort of help.
It's certainly generous to give them help. Fairness is pretty arbitrary. Life is competitive, resources are limited, and nobody inherently deserves anything assuming you don't believe in a cosmic authority. By uplifting somebody, you're generally depriving somebody else. This gets messier when it's matter of whether benefit/suffering is earned.
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>>70317371
>giant companies would never do something to make them more money, schizo
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>>70315121
yeah buyers remorse kind of sucks

Anyway
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>>70319435
Its to keep the outer layer well ventilated, and yea osb or whatever else cheap sturdy boards. If its an old house thats not filled w a bunch of plastic barriers, id suggest a barrier that can let throught some moisture and use insulation that can breathe too
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>>70315773
>when your AliExpress dick arrives
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>>70319676
My main concern with having a vapor barrier is to keep electronics safe, but maybe I'm misunderstanding what the barriers do. I am concerned about something being spilled upstairs and coming through the ceiling. And I am confused about mold and whether I'm doing the right thing to prevent it.
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>>70319208

It's all internet bullshit until it's your cousin, or your sibling, or your girlfriend's sibling. Then you have to debate whether or not you want to be the bad guy at Thanksgiving.
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>>70319792
Keked loud on this one



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